Ep. 12 of Talkin' Ball with Pat Leonard, the New York Daily News' NFL columnist and Giants beat writer. Guest: ESPN Houston Texans reporter DJ Bien-Amie. 0:08- Pat explains how Colts owner Jim Irsay’s Rooney Rule double-talk was saying the quiet part out loud, and shares reporting on Indianapolis’ firing of Frank Reich, hiring of Jeff Saturday and possible intentions with Chris Ballard. Pat looks at which coaches or organizations could make changes next, including the Cardinals, Raiders, Broncos and Washington. He gives Matt Eberflus and Justin Fields a nod for another impressive week in Chicago. And he explains Xavier McKinney’s story and status after a freak bye week accident might have ended the Giants safety’s season. 23:45 - DJ Bien-Amie, ESPN’s NFL Nation reporter covering the Houston Texans, analyzes Jim Irsay’s and Chris Ballard’s wildest comments from their strange Jeff Saturday press conference. DJ also shares how he thinks the Texans would use the No. 1 pick in the 2023 NFL Draft, dishes on Houston’s promising rookie class led by running back Dameon Pierce, updates everyone on Brandin Cooks, and discusses the Jets’ surge on his former beat -- thanks to the additions of two solid outside corners. 101:51 - Two-Minute Drill: Pat gives out his Pat’s Picks against the spread for Week 10. Watch the full video on Pat's YouTube Channel. Find Pat also on Twitter (@PLeonardNYDN), Instagram (@PLonNFL) & TikTok (@PLonNFL).