Ep. 8 of Talkin' Ball with Pat Leonard, the New York Daily News' NFL columnist and Giants beat writer. Guest: Super Bowl XLVI champion and ESPN analyst Chris Canty. 0:08- Pat notes how good and bad coaching have made all the difference in the razor thin margins of the modern NFL, where parity is king. 9:18 - Former NFL defensive end Chris Canty, a Giants Super Bowl champion, explains why saw greatness in Kayvon Thibodeaux and why Giants defensive coordinator Wink Martindale brings the best out of players. Canty insists Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens will figure it out. He dissects the Green Bay Packers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and L.A. Rams, and tells us which of those stumbling NFC powers can salvage their season. Canty analyzes the New England Patriots' QB situation with Bailey Zappe winning and an injured Mac Jones on the bench. He gets into the Jets' hot start. And Canty, a former NFL pass rusher, delivers an impassioned answer on the league's maddening roughing the passer penalties that have impacted games and overcorrected after the Tua Tagovailoa situation. 47:19- Two-Minute Drill: Pat gives out his NFL picks of the week against the spread. Watch the full video of Episode 8 on Pat's YouTube Channel.