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The Dolphins never seem to beat the Bills. I think they've lost 11 of the last 12 and I read something today that concerned me a great deal about tonight's game. In the last five years, Josh Allen has been NFL player of the week, five times following a game against the Dolphins. So he hasn't just beaten them, he's played insanely well that many times and they've had no answer for him and that's why they can't beat Buffalo. So we will see what happens tonight, but there are bigger things to talk about today, Tony. I think it's kind of an exciting day for San Diego State fans. I don't know exactly where it's going to lead us, but to me, having the Pac-12 name attached is better than Mountain West and it's a step and we'll see where we go. We'll talk about that in the segments. Of course, start with our beloved Padres, they split the two game, better cup out in Seattle. I got Scravia, it was one loss, it's all right. Seattle takes the cup for the 2024 season and the Padres lose a little ground. They lose the top spot only for half a game with the Diamondbacks who are in action. They don't actually have their off day until I believe next week. So we will stay a game ahead of them, at least in how many played until that time. So you know, the Padres lose a tough one. Quite frankly, Brian Wu had it going. I mean, he was, first of all, Mariners have the best pitching in all baseball due to their starting pitching. Padres got to one of their really good ones the day before. This is another one of their good ones and he got to them last night. Although Fernando Tatis Jr. ruined the festivities with a 116 mile per hour laser beam out to left. He also took a run off the board. It wasn't enough for the Padres unfortunately and they'll get ready for this series here in San Francisco, Chris. Yeah, you're in San Fran getting ready and they're going to be crucial games and I think we'll talk more about it, you know, tomorrow. But you know, the loss last night, you know, a couple things. You're right, Brian Wu, that's the story. I mean, when you retire the first 19 guys, it's going to be hard to win that game. The biggest surprise of all was that he ended up walking somebody in the seventh inning and the Mariners were so distressed by that they immediately took him out of the game. It was only, it was only his 10th walk of the season and you know, when you're throwing strikes, you'd think a team like the Padres that, you know, makes contact against a guy like this would, you know, you know, put the ball in play and find some holes. But there are certain nights where baseball just takes that away. You don't get anything to fall in and yeah, so, you know, it was their night. Croninworth makes an error on a play that, you know, personally all are comfortable with him trying to make about a thousand times in a row. He dropped the throw and you know, they didn't get the call on the replay. You know, in a perfect world, maybe they could have said he had control of that ball, but I hate to say I kind of agreed with the overrule there and I did too. Yeah. So, you know, that's good. Look, the first game of the season they lost because the ball bounced through Croninworth's glove. That hasn't happened since. Man's glove game. It seems like five years ago. And I, so I'm going to play like that to me as a one off. I'm not expecting that and I know people are like, well, you know, you change them. You put bogey at short, cronies at second and now the defense is terrible. It's not. It's a play that he'll make every time, but he didn't make it last night and so that's a win for Seattle. But I will say this, it did cause me for the first time, Tony, to actually check the remaining schedules of the Mets and the Braves and the Diamondbacks. And I know the Padres remaining schedule and, you know, I want to see where everybody stands. I mean, to me, it's exciting. I obviously don't want it to be close, but I'd like to, you know, cruise into the playoffs. But that's not going to happen. They're going to have to play well the next three weeks and, you know, I think the Mets have a toughest schedule. They play the Phillies seven times. They also play the Braves. The Diamondbacks play the Brewers seven times and so, you know, the schedule, the other teams are going to take their losses down the stretch, but the Padres got to make sure they take fewer of them. A couple of things. I think it's important to remember that this feeling that everybody's feeling, the Diamond back fans are feeling this. The Mets fans are feeling this. The Braves fans are certainly feeling it and everybody else who's chasing this wildcard. But the only time you're honestly probably like comfortable is if you're winning your division. And so ultimately you have to go out and you got to take it. And that's the case for not just the Padres, but that's for everybody. The Padres are just better positioned to take it than everybody else. And so, you know, this is, this was never going to be easy. I know. And the, as you said, in the perfect world, Padres run away and hide with the top spot, possibly pushed the division to a closer and it just, you're in, you're in, right? But I don't think it was ever going to come to that, especially when it was, when the thought was, you know, you win 85 games, you have a chance to get it at the very beginning of the season. It wasn't going to be like that. And now that it's, you know, upwards of probably 90 plus games, it's still not going to be like that. And so, Padres just have to play well down the stretch. You are not likely in 2024 going to back into the playoffs. It just, it just seems very unlikely at this point. Even though their lead is two and a half right now over the Braves, they really don't have to play extraordinary down the stretch. The Padres, you know, 10 and five, even I think nine and six will probably do it. I hesitate to do those things because they're going to just take every game one at a time and try to win them all. But, you know, nine and six going to force the Braves to play about 800 baseball down the stretch or the Mets or the Diamondbacks or all of them are going to have to. And remember, the Padres only have to hold off one of those teams. They don't have to hold off all three. And so that's, you know, in their favor. And I still think the Padres have a, you know, as good of is not a better roster going here. They've got the, you know, Darvish is back in the fold now starting and, you know, Perez takes a little paternity lead, but when he comes back, he's pitching well and I'm throwing seats on Friday. And I feel good every time I go out there with one of these Padres starters and I feel good with the bullpen. And I know they're going to score runs. They're not going to get, you know, get shut down like they did last night. I don't think too often. So I still feel pretty comfortable about it. Yeah. But enough to, but enough to, you know, look around the landscape. It was funny, Jesse and I had a conversation on if you guys heard during the game and it was about how, for like the first, and you and I talked about it on the show, but first like, I don't know, three, three months of the season. We talked about like the small margin for air that the Padres had. And we get to this point in the season and without a doubt that margin has widened because the offense is as good as it is on a, on a pretty consistent basis. But the foundation is still the foundation, good pitching and defense. Those are going to set you up for that offense to do its thing. And then last night's game that they didn't get those, they didn't get a start that they have been accustomed to get and they didn't get the defense and it's for defense it could just be one play that changes it for your ball club. And so I say that to say, even down the stretch, even though the margin for air has widened, their foundation still a foundation, they're going to need good starting pitching and they're going to need good defense on most nights to give them, make them victorious. Yeah. And I think they're going to get that stuff. I do too. 100%. It was just kind of the best of, or the worst of both worlds, right? I mean, their pitcher was at the tippy top of his game and the Padres didn't get those two things in that particular game. Yeah. I get it. Another thing about Michael King. I think he's pitching, you know, phenomenal ball. I think there's somewhere, you know, some, some metric Adam as a, you know, honestly a top 10 pitcher in baseball this year based on all of his analytics, you know what I think about analytics, but it does at least underscore the point that he's been great and he's been somebody you could rely on. The one area where Michael King has not been reliable this year is allowing unearned runs. He's allowed a bunch of unearned runs and he allowed three of them last night. It wasn't his fault. Right. I mean, a Croninworth made the air, but I'd like to see Michael King be able to bear down a little bit in those situations. It's not always easy to do. You give a major league team an extra out. In this case, you almost gave him two extra outs because it would have been a double play most likely to end the inning. But, you know, I need to come through there. I need to get these next couple of guys and get us out of the inning and get back in the dugout and, you know, everything's going to add up here down the stretch. I'm not trying to pick on King. He's been, you know, like I said, he's been one of the best we've got, but everybody's going to have to have everybody's back as well down the stretch and I don't know if he's the kind of guy that tends to get down a little bit when an error or two is made behind him statistically, it says that that has happened to him this year. That's all I'm saying. I don't disagree with that. I think he doesn't disagree with you that out after error is a, is a, is a, as a statement that he uses often and it's really to remind him that he has to bear down. But the mere fact that at least especially in the last three starts, his defense has failed him. I don't think there is any getting around it. It's certainly, you know, when that happens to a specific pitcher over and over and over again, the onus is, is, is, is although you want the, you need, not want you need the pitcher to, to be able to kind of settle back down and get the next guy that defense overall with him on, with him on the bump certainly has to almost have a little bit more hyper focus when he's on it because that's becoming a, a kind of a thing when he's on the map. You know, so, you know, as there's a, a pitcher every year that gets a ton of run support and there's another pitcher in, in the rotation that gets none, the ironic, the ironic part is he's also the guy who gets the most run support, I believe in that rotation. But he's also, they're also giving some of those runs right back with the errors that they're making. So the other last thing he's been great though. Yeah, he has. Again, I feel confident with every pitcher, the Padres send out there. The one guy I've lost complete confidence in though is Louisa rise had one hit last night. What's the matter with this guy? You know, we trade him. Yeah. I mean, well, like everybody else, I now understand why everybody's traded. I mean, you finally come to the, the dark side, come to the dark side on a rise. I, I came up to bat there and they, what was it? The eighth inning? And he was over three and I'm like, what? That's not possible. But it just goes to show, man. It shows you how good Brian Wu was. It was good. The rise isn't getting hit. Yeah. The guy was out. Come on. 19 for 19. I think this is kind of silly cause they lost the game in a lot of ways. People might think, but I'm glad they did not get no hit. I'm glad they did not get perfect game. I, you know, you see Dylan C throws that no hitter. It gave the team a big lift and I think getting no hit can have the opposite effect. So I'm glad we don't have to have that to carry through an off day. And, you know, Fernando took care of that and, you know, it did come in a loss, but his catch and right field, Tony, you can talk about how difficult that was. You know, this is a platinum glove type play. And, you know, he made, I thought he, I thought he made almost a better play the night before when he threw the guy out running to his right from right center field. You don't see outfielders do that. So those two plays, you know, stars for Fernando there. Yeah, that's the easier of the place, the, the timing of the jump and the height of that ball. That's not, he didn't like put his foot in the wall. That was just straight vert that he went up and just kind of snatched it and brought it back. Um, that's a, that's a really difficult play to, especially on the corners, you know, center field, a lot of times the ball is, is like straight when the balls hit to the, the corners, this guy, you know, either some pool on it or it's got a little fade on it. And so he had to, and it was a right handed hitter, it was a, a Rosarini. So it's kind of had that fade, which is why he ended up, I think falling because it almost like he had to go backwards to catch it, you know, and it was an amazing play. I mean, Todd, he is, you just feel, I think that I haven't, I haven't been like vexed about this whole thing because I just feel like Manny and Toddy, like they know what time it is. They know, like Luis, they know we're down to like, uh, the big, the big boy time of, of the year. And so I fully expect that all the guys from, from Jerrickson or from a Luis to Jerrickson, those first six in that lineup, uh, I think they know what time it is. And that's include Jackson. So I just feel good about the, the, the, the dogs that the Padres are going to throw out there on a nightly basis. All right. Let's, uh, let's get to break. Uh, when we come back, I think the real news of the day, uh, San Diego state, getting the invitation officially to join the pack 12, we'll talk about a little bit about what that means. We've got a couple guests coming on to talk about Kirk Kenny, the UT definitely will join us in the two o'clock hour. John Cole, the, uh, San Diego state baseball coach will come on and three o'clock hour talk about, you know, what this means for their particular sport as we, uh, set a, uh, new, new trail here in San, San Diego state. This starts in 2026. We'll get into it on the other side. Morgan and Chris from the mind of a two foot tall talking Spunk's puppet comes this year's biggest challenge. 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The academic institution has to improve as much as the athletic institution and credit to President de la Torre, credit to the previous presidents, provost, deans, faculty, our students. The academic institution is amazing, the athletic department over the last 12, 15 years, Jim Sturk's leadership. I was fortunate to work with Jim. All that we've accomplished, we have the best combined football and men's basketball record in Division I. I'm so happy, I'm so proud for our fan base, our alumni, our donors that have this opportunity to go into the Pac-12 to create this new Pac-12 and the opportunities that it's going to provide us. J.D. Wicker out at Snapdragon Stadium today, where they had a press conference, big doings at San Diego State, on Montezuma, Mesa. We are all Aztecs for life around here, except for Scrabby, and I think it's a big day for San Diego State. They've been trying to get into the Pac-12 for a long time, obviously they were almost there. A few years ago, actually, I think they were there until, I don't know what happened in USC and UCLA and Oregon and Washington jump ship, but you know, J.D. has been really, this has been kind of a big goal and for this school, it just looks great. It looks great. Now, what does it all mean? I mean, look, there's San Diego State's in, and Colorado State, Fresno State, and Boise State are joining them, but there's only two teams in the Pac-12 to join at the moment, Oregon State and Washington State. Now, none of this actually takes place until the 26th, 27th season, so not this year, not next year, but the year after that. And I think, Tony, this is far better than the status quo for San Diego State to finally be attached to the Pac-12 brand, but let's see what they can do with this and not San Diego State, but let's see what the Pac-12 can do with this now, that they have the makings of a conference. Can they go out and steal, you know, a couple of big names, schools from somewhere else. It seems like all is fair and the love and war out there in college sports these days, so everybody stole teams from the Pac-12, maybe they can do the same thing. That's what I'm thinking anyway. Yeah, so, you know, there's a great article in the athletic written by a guy named Stuart Mandel. He's kind of- Yeah, Stuart's good. He's been trying to highlight the whole time. He kind of highlights the whole scenario. This is obviously less about revenue than it is about the Golden Ticket. And what is the Golden Ticket? That's one of those spots in the playoff that- And the college football playoff. Right. So, you know, this article kind of lays out the idea that this is not about money. Like most of the moves that we've seen, this is more about that playoff spot. However, as Chris just mentioned, the Pac-2 right now, with this edition only leaves it to a Pac-6, you need eight to qualify. Now the Pac-12 has this two-year grace period where they get to kind of trying to figure out how they get those eight teams in there. Now, there's a bunch of scenarios, right? Air Force, UNLV have been talked about. There's talks of moving into Texas with, I think, San Antonio and North Texas possibly being a part of that. But there is the scenario still that a team like the Big 12 could get plucked. Sure. Like Boise State could get plucked to go to a place like the Big 12. So there is a lot of, I guess, you know, the term balls in the air going right now for the Pac-6, as you can call it right now. So, but either way, I think for San Diego State, it's a risk worth taking because right now they're stuck in the Mountain West. And, you know, I don't think anybody sees it, that conference elevating beyond where it is right now. And that's where it's always been. Yeah. Right. It's where the success of the teams that are now leaving, it does it, so I think it's a risk worth taking for sure. They've got to do this and, you know, I'm really excited that they've done it. And, you know, you talk about stealing teams, which is, you know, the word they would not use, but I will, look, why does Kansas and Kansas State, why are they married to the Big 12? Why is, you know, BYU's over there, but maybe they want to come back to the West, Arizona and Arizona State, Utah, they're all in the Big 12 right now. Every one of those schools has to travel at least once a year to West Virginia and once a year to Central Florida, you know, why do that when there's a Pac-12 hoping to get back together and BYU and Arizona and Arizona State could come back there? I don't look, everybody's got a weird situation. I'm just saying I've got to look into those things if I'm the... It's a great point because, you know, on one end, you look at it like, why would those teams leave the conferences that seemingly have more stability and certainly TV contracts for the extra money? However, if the Pac-6 can keep that golden ticket that they have by adding the conferences, what would stop one of those teams from being like, well, it's in their minds, and their minds thinking, well, this is a much easier conference to get through and get to the playoff. So, maybe we should do something like that. Yeah, let's go up here, Arizona State, Arizona, say let's win the Pac-12 and get into the tournament. Look, at Callen Stanford are obviously probably the dream scenario to get them back out here. It's ridiculous that they're traveling to wake far. Instead of the all-coast conference? Yeah, right. You know, so you'd like to believe that they would wise up and, you know, maybe this weekend's football game at Cal is a preview of future Pac-12 games. I'll tell you two more schools I would call if I'm the Pac-12 and that's Florida State and Clemson. I know they're off the chart, but to me, you have to think big to be big and both Florida State and Clemson have been suing the ACC for about five years now. I can't believe that's a great relationship. Yeah, but are they suing to get into the other big conferences? I don't know what they're doing, but, you know, just a Pacific Coast conference. Well, every conference is all over the country right now. It's great. You know that just as much as I do, so the Big Ten is like, actually, I was like 18 teams that are right now. Sure. I mean, if you, if you were, the Big Ten goes from USC to Rutgers, that is coast to coast. So yeah, I have no pride. Right. If you were, let's just say it's not going to happen, but if you got Florida State and Clemson, then you can start talking about really getting some big schools and make this thing, you know, a legit thing again. So, but you had to start with this move and let's be, let's be excited by this. You know, Boise State is a legit program, Fresno State, Colorado State. I'm okay with that. We just get yourself aligned under that Pac-12 banner. And I think something good can come of it. And you know, we'll see, you know, where it goes. Where's the critic talking? Okay. Go right ahead, Mr. Critic. Pac-12 is just a glorified Mountain West. Well, look, the big, the big 12 is a glorified West with branding. The big 12 right now is a glorified Mountain West AAC and everything else I mean. The big 12 has big schools. Let me, let me say this. What big schools, wait, sorry, Tony, what big schools does the big 12 have left? Oklahoma and Texas are long gone. No, I, I know. So who's big? Schools like North Texas do not excite me. I didn't say they would, but you were saying that possibly they joined the conference. But should you see F and Cincinnati excite people in the big 12, do you think anybody's running out to see those? No, they're not. They're just trying to get teams, they're trying to get members and try to stay legit. So I don't see why the Pac-12, now that they're headed in this direction, can keep heading in this direction and make a better landing spot for some of these schools. Listen, can I say this, having the better branding is not a bad thing, Scray, but I think that's a great thing. The fact is, Mountain West doesn't have the branding that the Pac-12 are too bad. Yeah, you mentioned Pac-12 people know. Yeah, exactly. So that's, that's worth something in, in this realm that we're speaking of right now in terms of that Pac-12 still has that golden ticket that they're, that they're hanging on to it, should they be able to get to eight again? And so that alone is, is more valuable than anything that the Mountain West has to offer, I think at this point. Couldn't agree more, Tony, and I, you know, I brought up Kansas and Kansas State, but don't forget about basketball. I mean, that's exactly what's happening with that. That, well, they're basketball being the Pac-12, but you can't tell me that Kansas wouldn't mind being in the conference with San Diego State, you know, as opposed to going again to UCF. Now you have to get Gonzaga in this conference or basketball. Well, but that would be basketball only. I don't know. Look, there's a lot of different ways you can go, but at least there's ways you can go now. Right. There's some direction. There's some direction. They were kind of sitting in No Man's Land in the Mountain West Conference and they've probably been sitting there for another 15 years. So. At this point, the article does point out that as Chris said, Florida State and Clemson are like pie in the sky, but they are hoping that the Cal and Stanford issue who was in AC, that's their dream scenario is obviously to get those two teams back. However, in the timeframe they have with the exemption, they may not get an answer on those two teams in time. So that's kind of where they stand on that. Yeah, I was just, I was just bringing up the other side of the, I'm getting blamed right now. Not by you guys, but by like Twitter and all those other stuff. You're being happy. Scrabby. Well, no. S-C-R-A-B-V-E-Y. They still haven't figured it out. And just so you know, in their minds, they're calling you Scrabby. This hour is brought to you by California Department of Transportation, Eastbound Interstate 8. This is something you may want to know, Eastbound Interstate 8. We'll close from Jackson Drive to Route 67. 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Rogue, I can relate was a couple years ago, might have been last year, but a couple years ago, the light, you know, the street light in front of our house, like went out. And so like I didn't, it for it took a little bit for it to like be a nuisance, where it was like, dang, it's dark out here before I actually called the city. I called the city, I left a message and like, I want to say like seven months later, it got fixed. Seven months. That's pretty good. And I didn't even know. And I didn't even know what's fixed. It was like, oh, the lights, the lights fix seven and a half months. Yeah. Obviously, Scrabby, the city reacts to the Gwyn family a lot quicker than the scrappy man. If it's, if it's anything like that, I'm going to be waiting like three years for this laser to get me. I don't know, man. Carl's bad. That's a, you know, they probably don't even care about us because we're on the edge of Carl's bad. We're basically, you walk across the street and you walk across the street and you're an incinidus. And that's not a joke. So they don't care about us over there. The lights probably an incinid. I got to check the zoning now. Sounds to me like you're kind of putting the people of Encinitas down, frankly. Why am I putting them down? Well, you're saying I am in Carl's bad, but across the street is Encinitas. Or what? It's not as good. Trying to divide us up, ain't you, Scrab? I cannot wait. Can I get the people of Encinitas, boy codding the program now? If there's a mayor of Carl's bad listening right now, will you please get it fixed? Dividing us up already. Okay. We got Kirk Kenny next. Kirk Kenny talking more about the San Diego State's big move today when we come back. 242. On the clock, Tony Gwen Jr, Chris Ello, Matt Scrabie, Kirk Kenny joining us here shortly. White Sox trying to stave off history, ladies and gentlemen. And they're going to have to do some. I believe they haven't done all year. We're in the game. Going in the yesterday, going in the yesterday, I think they needed to finish nine and six. Oh, God. That's not happening. To avoid the record. I don't think they've had a run like that all season long, not even close. I mean, they've only won 32 games the whole time, 33 history could be on its way before the end of hopefully the Padres will contribute to that history because we still know they're going to need to contribute to that history or need them to contribute at least two of them boys to the history, maybe all three baseball covers on 97 three. The fan is presented by T-Mobile, switch to T-Mobile, and you can get tons of benefits and still save on every plan versus AT&T in Verizon. Users are saving calculator to find out how at T-Mobile.com/switch. Kirk Kenny joins us here on Gwen and Chris Kirk. How are you, my friend? I'm doing well. What's going on today, guys? I can't think of anything to this, there's, you know, same old, same old here in San Diego and in all of California, no, obviously packed, go ahead. Can I interrupt once for a second? I want to try and make Gravy's life easier. Oh, what do you got for me? So when I come to light that just won't change, I wait a reasonable amount of time. I lose the most weight. And I continue on with life. He just goes. He's telling me to forget about it. Oh, he just goes. I see. He just goes. I did send me a message saying that if a light is stuck and you are safe and it's no cars in the, in your view, then you can go. But I don't believe that per se legal. That's illegal. Yeah. But you know what? Kirk, Kirk, where is a reasonable time? One potato, two potatoes, three potatoes. Only three potatoes, huh? If you're real conservative, you do Mississippi. Oh, wow. Wow. Okay. I'll take a little lecture here. This is like it will be counting up to like 90 Mississippi's by the time I get through. Let me ask you this on this. This is a far better subject. We've already talked about the Aztecs. Scrabby, how long would you sit at that light without it changing before, yeah, before you finally said, you know, that's it. I got to go a minute, a minute or a minute and 30 seconds, like if no cars are coming, I understand if their cars coming and it doesn't, it doesn't change. No, but that's different. Right. I went to go get gas at like eight something and it wouldn't change. And so I waited a minute anyway. I'm just saying, man, that's, that's like your criminal. That's all I'm, that's all I'm saying. Never mind just calling the Carlsbad people to fix the light. We're going to call the police department to give you a ticket. Criminal. All right. Let's just back to the pack two now six. Kirk, I mean, this has been talked about for a while. It seemed like it had gone away, but clearly conversations were happening behind the scenes because this seemingly kind of came out of nowhere. I don't recall hearing anything about this until yesterday. What's your take on, on this move for the Aztecs and do you know anything about how it came about? Well, I do think it hit critical mass fairly quickly like within 72 hours because the Mountain West Commissioner was in San Diego on Saturday for the football game and Mark Ziegler of our papers spoke with her and did a story and spoke to JD Wicker and none of this was broached and not that they'd be sharing everything at that moment. But I really think this kind of in some ways came out of nowhere. But you know, big news in some ways and other ways it's like, oh, okay, finally it's been very interesting for me to gauge reaction. I've seen some people who are excited and others are just kind of struggling their shoulders. And I've been trying to really collect my thoughts on how I feel and the best I can come up with at this point is I feel like I've been driving a car that's got 120,000 miles on it. And now I don't have a new car, but I've got one with about 42,000 miles on it. He always has a great way of explaining things. You know, I would like you to write that in your story tomorrow, Kirk. And let all of us try to deal with it. All right. Kirk Kenny. Well, I'm still deciding on the mileage of what I'm driving. The newer car. Yeah. Yeah. The newer car. Yeah. I don't think it's. Well, go ahead. So I'm old enough that I remember when it was the Pack 8 and the Aztecs were trying to get in in the late 70s, mid to late 70s, and they took Arizona and Arizona State. Yeah. And so ever since then, fans have been clamoring from them to get in the Pack 12. And even a couple of years ago, you know, if they made it, it was a lot of it was to play against USC and UCLA. Well, then they're leaving. Well, okay. Well, Oregon and Washington and Utah and the two Arizona's are still left. Oh, no, no, no, now they're gone. So to me, that just takes a lot of the energy out of it. But at the same time, if you stand pat with the Mountain West, I don't really see that conference gone anywhere. So I think this gives you a chance. And especially when we see, you know, who the players to be named later are in this when they get up to eight or nine teams, I think they will be in a better spot. Kirk is with us. Kirk Kenny, our guy, San Diego State and Kirk, let me just touch on something that Mark Ziegler did write about earlier this week. And that was JD Wicker kind of coming out and saying, look, we had, we actually had a chance to go to the big 12. But the, the offer was ridiculous. They weren't going to give us any money, TV revenue, no revenue. We're going to have to split. And he, you know, he deemed that to be, you know, just something not worth accepting at all. Talk a little bit about that and whether, you know, how, how bad of a deal would have that been for the Aztecs and why this is better for them. Well, I think you ought have always been chasing teams that were on substantially better footing. Well, like, look at Callan Stanford and the ACC, I think they're getting about 10 million, which is half to a third maybe of what the other schools are getting. That just wouldn't sit well with me. It's like, if I'm going to be, I always related also to being in a, in a, you know, at a country club, if some guys get to play 18 holes and I only get to play nine, I just don't think that would sit well with me, right? And that's how I think some of, some of that would have been with the big 12. So I think you're looking for whatever's the best deal, what's more financially feasible. And I think that's what they've done. Kirk, Kenny joins us here on Gwen and Chris and Kirk, you talked a little bit about, you know, when the players to be named later, join. I mean, we've seen some of the, the teams floated out there. It seems as though they're dream scenario, obviously, as they get Callan Stanford back, but the timing of that may not really line up. Who do you, who do you see as the best fits for not only the conference, but they, you know, the teams that are joining the conference. So first off, Callan Stanford, I think what some people are looking at is what happens with Florida, state and Clemson, if they are able to breathe themselves to the conference and it collapses that then frees up Stanford and Cal to come back from some things I understand. I don't know how eager Stanford would be because I think they looked down on most of the schools that are going to be in this new fact. They look down on every school, though, don't they, I mean, please, well, Ziegler went to Stanford, so I have to tread lightly sometimes when I see to the cardinal, yeah, it's true. But you know, but at some point, you know, I think you have to face some reality too. And like, what's the best thing for your school, even if it means, you know, being somewhere you don't necessarily want to be, as far as some of the other names being mentioned, what like I asked a specific question a day, would you like to keep this to be a West Coast conference and they neither JD nor Adela de la Torre would specify that. They want it. They said they want the schools that make the most sense and are the best fit and help the conference be the strongest it can be, which tells me they're going to be looking across the country and what the schools profile the best. It is kind of crazy. Now when I hear somebody mention UTSA, which five years ago, could you even have said who that is? No. You know, when somebody who's a hot school now, are they really going to be a hot school five or ten years from now? I don't know. Great point. Yeah, Kirk's with us. It was a big day at San Diego State and the Aztecs are finally in the Pac-12. Maybe it's not the perfect scenario, but I agree with you, Kirk, those who are kind of looking this, this is a better than a lateral move. It just is, and you know, where they can take it from here, well, they can take it somewhere. We don't know where it's going to be, so let's wait on that. But if they stayed in the Mountain West, that clearly was not going to go anywhere. We got a couple of minutes with you. They're playing Cal this week. I said maybe this is a preview of a Pac-12 game in the future, but football, at Cal, quarterback, herding, give me a quick, quick preview of this one for Sean O'Neill's team. Or Sean, Sean Lewis team, Sean O'Neill, Sean O'Neill, the former writer in Escondido. Sorry about that. Right. Sean Lewis's team. It's funny you say that because I did that exact thing earlier this week. Oh, you did? Yeah. Well, you know what part of the problem is, too? Their quarterback's name is Danny O'Neill. Yeah, there you go. I'm wondering if that's what Gibson introduced anyway, so Danny O'Neill hurt his knee last Saturday against Oregon State, and he's not been able to practice fully, so he's been a question mark, and if he can't go, then they'd have one of the backups would go. So we'll probably see that decision might come as late as, you know, just before game time that we'll really actually find out who the starter is. The ethic come in as a 19-point underdog, which seems kind of understandable with Cal coming off an upset went over Auburn and the ethics being shut out last week. But we'll see. They still have some good skill guys at San Diego State and have a good running back in Marquez Cooper, and we'll see if they can put it together a little bit more this week. It has to take back in action, taking on Cal Berkeley. Kirk appreciates you coming on, man. This has been insightful in terms of kind of hearing what's going on with the Pac-6, Pac-2, however you want to call it. I know I'm excited just from the standpoint that we got a chance to do something. It seemed like Mountain West has kind of had run its course. We'll check in with you down the line, Kirk, appreciate you coming on. Alright guys, remember, always look both ways. And then put your foot on the gas. Kirk, kitty, you need to review. Always a joy to have on. By the way, the Aztec football game Saturday night, just for people who care about stuff like this on the main ESPN network. Big, big night for the Aztec Saturday. Hopefully they'll squish the points. Hopefully they'll perform okay. See, you hate to be on the national stage and lay a clunker. I don't know the financials, but what Kirk said about not going to the Big 12 makes sense to me. It does. I mean, you don't want to just be the worst of a good conference or just continue to get beat up on, right? Right, because yeah, because then you just end up the dormant the whole time. So you're trying to keep, it's an interesting balance, right? You're trying to keep your prestige of your school and you're also trying to be in a conference with prestige, right? So if you're not getting the same cut that everybody else has, that puts you at a disadvantage. So I like that J.D. rolled the dice, said no on that, and it gives us another avenue, which we didn't have before. Finally, we're going to have him on the show tomorrow at 4 p.m. J.D. Wicker. Awesome. J.D. Wicker tomorrow, 4 p.m. Let's get the break daily gambit on the other side. From the mind of a two-foot tall talking spokespuppet comes this year's biggest challenge. It's time for Bob's Dare to Compare! The hottest game show on TV that asks, "What happens when you compare Bob's to the competition?" You get style, you get quality, you get beeps and boops and dings and whomps, and thousands of dollars in savings. 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