Ben & Woods On Demand Podcast

7am Hour - Scary NFL Moment + Potential Playoff Rotation

Woods and Paul kick off the 7am hour with some thoughts on last night's Thursday Night Football game between the Bill and Dolphins which saw another scary moment for Tua Tagovailoa. Then we get to "Don't (And DO) Do This" before we talk some Padres baseball ahead of this weekend's series in San Francisco, and discuss what a potential 3 man playoff rotation could look like for the Padres. Listen here!

Duration:: 45m
Broadcast on:: 13 Sep 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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You'll get expertise from inside the trenches and behind the tape for four episodes every week. So make sure you download and subscribe to the "Pushing the Pile" podcast on The Odyssey app. This podcast on 97.3, the fan is presented by Hummel Casino, fun of all else. You're going to play a real or fake? Again, here in a few minutes. Get a call around the line for that. Did you say you had a call or a poly? We don't know if they're calling. We do. You just see what they want? Let's just see it's Friday. Mike, good morning. Good morning. Yeah, I was going to play Call of Fake. But while I got you, I just wanted to wish Paulie a happy birthday and tell him to have a good time at Chuck E. Cheese today. Chuck E. Cheese. Now now, Mike, we're going to David Buster. That begs the question of best birthday restaurants to go to. Chuck E. Cheese was up there when you were a kid. The Chuck E. Cheese birthday party was elite. We had in Texas a place called Showbiz Pizza. That was a little bit different than Chuck E. Cheese, but kind of the same. We were-- we had a family fund center. Family fund centers are kick-ass for a birthday party. I think we went to Chuck E. Cheese once, maybe when I was like six. It was far away from where I live. My kids really like the trampoline places, which are great, except you're guaranteed to get malaria the minute you leave there. It's think about 7,000 kids all scratching themselves and then jumping into the phone balls and then they're climbing around, jumping around trampolines. It smells like dirty socks. You walk in and you're like, oh, my God, man. There's not enough sanitizer in the world in the minute. Like the minute you walk out the next morning, the brook. So I-- while Hannah's gone in a couple of weeks, Bo has a birthday party. One of his good buddies is having it there and I go, I told her, I'm going to make one of the other dads go. Because I can't get malaria or whatever. McDonald's play play. Disentary that I'm going to get from those places. But no, it's a happy birthday to Polly, no Chuck E. Cheese. You guys are doing a nice dinner tonight or tomorrow? Dinner's tonight. And then I don't know what we're doing for dinner tomorrow night. We're doing a little staycation tomorrow night. So it just kind of broke it up for Saturday. Yeah. Very nice. So last night, there was an NFL football game. I don't know how many people really care about it. It's just kind of the thing that we run up against every single year being in San Diego. Do people want to hear NFL talk? I don't know. There were a lot of people loving our interview with Amy Trask yesterday. That's different, 'cause it's Amy Trask. It's Amy Trask. I watched a little bit of the first half. Honestly, I thought there was a Padres game last night. Like once-- It was like 5.30, and I'm like, oh, you're in a paddock. NFL just started, got an hour until first pitch. Never mind. No Padres game last night. So Dolphins ended up getting their clocks clean. Pretty good. 31-10. The Buffalo Bills, who moved to 2-0. Toa. Talk about Loa. Took one last night. He was running in a weird turn of events. Damn it, Paul. God. You got hurt. He got really hurt. Concussed. Had to come out of the game. It didn't look good. It was Demar Hamlin, by the way, that he ran into, which is just the craziest thing. I just don't know how in depth you guys want to get. I didn't watch a ton of it. Like I said, I could only watch it in bits and pieces, but Miami's defense did not play well again. Now, tell me-- There's two different storylines here. You can talk about the actual game and the Bills' blocking scheme or the bigger picture, I think, is definitely Toa. Toa. And he's had a bunch, man. He's had a bunch of concussions. Yeah, I mean that in the most positive way. I know that doesn't sound positive, but I hope he doesn't just keep trying to run it back out there, and he's going to get hurt. He's already been hurt. He's been hurt. Several times, concussed. And I just-- I hope if he needs to step away-- And I don't know that he does, but I didn't play football. Bro, when he got hit-- But it's scary, man. It's really scary to watch. His arm went up and like, bald into a fist. Yeah, I mean, I saw people-- look, Twitter is full of doctors and wannabe doctors, and everyone said, oh, that's the-- his arm got like, contorted, and he held it up. And that is a sign of brain trauma. And so it's very tough to watch. I mean, the fact that it was Demar Hamlin that he ran into-- there was no dirty play, anything. No, just football. Just football and clean play on both sides. I remember when Demar Hamlin's injury happened. I think that was-- was that January of this year? It was like right at the beginning of the year, like their last regular season game or something. And I mean, I thought I watched a man die. Yeah, we all did. We all did. And then it just became, after that-- and it's a miracle that he lived. But after that, in the wake of that injury, you go, are we just waiting to watch an NFL player die before-- Yeah, before the field. We make some changes, but I don't know what changes you're going to even make. That's the thing, is this is a violent, violent sport. To it during the 2022 season, he missed five games, including a playoff game due to concussions. He was stretchered off the field against Cincinnati. He missed two weeks after that. Then on Christmas, he was cut-- the concussed against Green Bay lost for the remainder of the season. In the 2023 campaign, he had a really, really nice season, wanted to avoid head injuries and things like that. And here we are in game two. Took one of the nastiest shots and really was not a great, great reaction from Toa on the field last night, and he was done for the game. Mike McDaniel, the head coach of the Dolphins, said, look, I'm worried about the human being right now. Not the quarterback. And as soon as we get the appropriate information, it's day to day health. So yeah, man, it's a tough sport. It's violent. The older I get, kind of the less I can stomach it a lot, honestly. And you know, here's what it is, man. There's a lot of people that love the game. I still like football a lot. But stuff like that when it happens, yeah, of course. We just want everything to go smoothly. We don't want to see anybody hurt. We don't want to see anybody do weird things with their body after taking a hit to the head. So it was a really, really tough thing to watch last night. But you know, for business purposes, 31 10 bills over the Dolphins last night. It's weird to transition into like that. It's fun or the actual game. Yeah, yeah, Bill's like, anyways. Yeah, I hope too is OK. Bill's look great. Somebody said it was actually Antonio Brown. He's such a trip on Twitter. And you know, look, what does he call his Twitter account? Like CTE, ESPN. So he tweeted last night in a serious manner. Like, I think too, it needs to be done with football. Concussions are no joke. And you know, that's a few that we know about. I think they did a story too recently that I saw with Brett Favre. And you know, we all know about Brett Favre's history. But on the field, they said, Brett Favre said he had-- he's like, I bet you I had 1,000 concussions since I started playing high school football. Like, this cannot be good, man. It just cannot be good. So I don't know what the answer is. I know that the NFL is a juggernaut, and probably nothing's going to change. But pretty tough to watch last night. So we did this yesterday. Are we doing the same exact thing we did yesterday, Paulie? Yeah, we're going to do real or fake. But I'm playing. You're going to play for our listener. Let's get through our game. Some are here for the compelling sports talk with Ben and Woods. You can go plow through another donut. It's time for real or fake on 97.3, the fan. Tell the people what they'll win today. All right. Let's just-- since Mike did call in to wish me a happy birthday at Chuck E. Cheese, should we just go with Mike today? Yeah, but what will the people win today? Oh, I'm going to tell them. OK. Mike's still with us. Oh, I got it. Yep. Still here, guys. Awesome. All right, Woody's going to tell you what you could qualify for should you win. Is it the same one as take on Woods? Yes. OK, great. All you have to do, Mike. So Paulie's going to give-- I'm playing for you, right? And you're going to actually be my lifeline on this one. All right. And if we do qualify you, you could win. A two night stay at the win or on court Las Vegas, two tickets to see Awakening. Awakening is the thrilling spectacle at win Las Vegas. And on and on we go. It's a mythic adventure on fold sediments amid the most technologically immersive theater ever designed. Tickets on sale now at awakening.com. So you can qualify for that. Thank you. I skipped about half that. Well done. Because of that wine that got me last night. All right, Mike. So here we go. Is it the same exact bit? We are going to do the exact same bit. You did so good yesterday. I'm in a good mood. It's birthday week. And we're going to get Mike qualified. No problem, because Woody will absolutely nail this, just like he did yesterday. We're going to go real or fake Ben and Woods interviews. Mm-hm. Been interviewed on our show. Now maybe it was when you and me were hosting and Ben was out. Maybe it was me and Ben and you were out. But you got to know our show. Yeah. This will be easy. But I'm not great with memory and things like that. But I did do well yesterday. It does mean I'll do well today. I sent this list over to Ben. He got three wrong. He did. This is today's. Yes. Oh my god. OK. So we'll start with number one. Easy one. Bruce Bocey. [MUSIC PLAYING] I want to say real, but I don't think I was here. I'm going to say real. Mike, do you remember us interviewing Bruce Bocey? I don't. But boy, I would bet that you might-- you'd probably have. That's what I think. I'm going to say real. No! We've never had Boce on the show. How about that? Oh my god. Never had Boce on the show. All right. MLB Insider. We have a lot of MLB insiders on our show. Over the years, MLB Insider Tom Verducci. That's-- He-- they all run together. Verducci is passing his Rosenthal. Tom Verducci, I'm going to say real. [MUSIC PLAYING] Oh, no. Oh, would be. You're killing me. All right. No, I'm hung over. We'll get it. We'll get it. We've got to get back on track. We'll get it. All right. USC alum Reggie Bush. Fake. I would never-- Come on! [LAUGHTER] Wow. Yeah, we actually had Reggie Bush on our show. No, we need to get him on. Maybe twice, but definitely once he was promoting, he had a golf tournament in town, San Diego-- Old Station kid. Yeah, I think I was the Old Station. Old Station. But that counts. It does, yeah. At a wood show. Oh, god. All right, we've got to get hot here. All right, we need all four. All right, he's got it. We got it. All right. NBA Insider, Shams, Sharanya. We absolutely have interviewed Shams before. We've got this. But over four. Mike, I'm so sorry that Woodsy doesn't know anybody that we've ever had on our show. Oh, my god. Thanks for calling. You know what? Those are four people. We should have interviewed Paulie. Three of them. We should have interviewed him. So you need to get on that. I would love to talk to Shams. Who are the other ones that we just mentioned? Shams Boji. Boji, Verducci, Reggie, and Shams. Do you want to keep going? Yeah, keep going. For S's and giggles. Sean McVay. Yes. We were the ram station across the street. We never had him on. We had Wade Phillips as our guy. Oh, he was great. Fortnite. Fortnite. We had-- you know who was our-- we actually had him on a few times. He had their kicker, I think. Johnny Hecker. Johnny McVay. We had a keep to leave called in three or four times. He was pretty good, too. Kind of weird. He's very weird. He's talked to a player. Yeah. Yeah, never had Sean McVay. So you are O for five. You know this comedian, Andrew Santino from Dave. The red-headed guy. Never. [BUZZER] Had him in studio. Met him face to face. I have a picture of you with him here. I was not here. I was not here. I've never met that. OK? Never. And finally-- Are you sure I was here that day? I have a picture of you with him. Wow. O for six, unreal or fake. And finally, the last one, Philip Rivers. Wheel. [BUZZER] O for seven. [BUZZER] I don't know why you did so much better yesterday. Over seven. O for seven. Never had Philip Rivers on. I was in the chamber right there. Yep, that is-- Well, sorry about that, Mike. I mean, you couldn't have done worse real or fake, ever. I got no hit. Bruce Boji. Did not have-- yeah. You got every single one on. Bruce Boji, Tom Verducci. You thought we were real. No. The Verducci one was-- that was tough. I just-- I could vividly remember talking to all of those people, except for the ones that we-- We didn't. It was all-- Holy cow, man. Holy cow. Anyway, coming up next, we will do don't and do do this. And I'm telling you, man, this is honestly one of the wilder stories I have ever come across in all my time, not covering sports, just liking sports. I can't believe this story. And I need more info. I need-- I want to quote for his teammates. 100%. What the hell? I cannot believe this. A catcher was cut by the Minnesota Twins yesterday for the wildest reason ever. And we will tell you why. Coming up next, Ben Woods, 97-3, the fan. [VIDEO PLAYBACK] -After investing billions to light up our network, T-Mobile is America's largest 5G network. 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So make sure you download and subscribe to the "Push in the Pile" podcast on the Odyssey app. [MUSIC PLAYING] -I'll do this. [MUSIC PLAYING] -It's time for "Don't Do This." -What were you thinking? -Three stories from the world of sports that make us all shake our heads. -Why? -How many times do I have to tell you? -Oh, I'm sorry. I fudged up, guys. -You idiot. -You moron. -You dumbass. -The apple sometimes does far fall from the tree. -Don't do this. -Do not tweet that. -With Ben & Woods. -I like a Nickelback song or two. -On 97.3, the fan. -Oh, yeah. Two stories that make you shake your head and something positive here on Ben & Woods this morning. Paulie, I got to say, man, I've been teasing it all morning. This is one of the wildest stories I've ever seen in my whole life. -It's insane. -I don't really get it. The Minnesota Twins have released minor league catcher, Derek Bender. After he was telling opposing hitters what pitches were coming to the plate during it bats in a game last week that eliminated his team from playoff contention. So he's behind the dish. He was a six-round draft pick. He just got drafted in July playing for the Fort Myers Mighty Muscles. That's the Twins Single A team. The second game of a double-header, he told multiple hitters for the Lakeland Flying Tigers, which is a Detroit farm team, exactly what pitches that were being thrown by starter Ross Dunn. Lakeland scored four runs at the second inning. They won the game six-nothing to clinch the Florida State League. The coaches, his coach, were notified by the opposing team's coaches who was getting the benefit. And the players were coming back to the dugout goal. -That's how you know this is bad. -One team is getting information and they go, "This is so dirty, we're going to tell the other team." "Hey, man, come check out your boy here." -I have the only explanation I saw for it was that he... I guess he's declined... Like the ESPN article says he's declined comment. -Yeah, I bet. -But the one explanation I saw for it was he was ready for the season to be over. -Yeah. -And here you go. You got Ross Dunn, his teammate, out there, trying his ass off, you know, to pitch his team into the playoffs. And his own catcher is going, "Hey, fastball, middle in. Fastball away. Slider away." -He's doing Crash Davis. -He's doing Crash Davis, but he wasn't to teach him a lesson. -God, sucker teed off and I knew I was going to throw a fastball. He did know. -Wow. -I told him. -You can't... Like, there's people in Twitter. There's people on Twitter, like, trying to justify. This guy says, "Well, teams don't take minor league teams results seriously. Why should players?" -Are you effing kidding, dude? -That's terrible. -Have you ever been part of a team ever? Players don't get paid more for playoffs as I understand. Could be wrong. But if they don't get paid more, why would you work an extra week away from home for no extra money? Are you kidding me? Do you know what it means to be a teammate? You do not throw your teammate under the buzz slider. I mean, here at Crash Davis, teaching Nookalalouche a lesson, fine. But that's not what this was. The guy wanted the season to be over, so he just wanted the game to end. -That's... -I've never heard he like this. -Unbelievable. -It's unbelievable. They cut him. He's out. I would like to sit down. Now, again, you know how I'm wired? I put myself in his shoes or, like, tried to say, "What if I'm his dad?" To call him and go, "What were you thinking?" Like, "What's... What happened? Like, are you okay?" Because, honestly, he's heard that... -Can I say, I don't want to play. -You say I don't want to play? -Walk away. -Yeah, walk away. -That's better. It's better than doing that. It's just the weirdest story. Do you know, Nookal, no show? -The Nookal, no show. -That would be better, because at least you're not bringing down your teammates. I just don't get it. I don't get it. So they caught him. I mean, again, 300 grand, I think, was his... his... what they invested in him. And guys out of a job, and I mean, who picks him up? Who picks him up? So, just wild, man. Just wild. So, kind of fitting, we just talked about the NFL and our last segments, and, you know, scary moment for two yesterday with another injury. And there's been some more injury discussions throughout the week, and I don't think we've talked about it, but last week, last Thursday night was the NFL kickoff, Ravens at Chiefs. And linebacker, Baltimore linebacker Kyle Van Neuhe, he got hurt in the game, and this week has been... he has been criticizing the Chiefs' medical team for how he was treated. And now it's turned into the NFLPA, the Players Association versus the League, and everyone's bashing each other on how this all happens. So, if you don't remember or missed it entirely, Kyle Van Neuhe suffered, it says a fractured orbital bone in the third quarter, an eye injury. And it took him an entire quarter for him to see the Chiefs' optimologist on site. He was just sitting there, like, in pain. Like just... Yeah. It took, I mean, a full quarter, it's 15 minutes of game time, but that could be like 45 minutes of real time. And so, he said, that's unacceptable. That is unacceptable for a visiting player or any player. But, you know, you think something sounds fishy here when it's a visiting player who's hurt. And the team, the host team is responsible for providing doctors on site. Yeah, it goes beyond, you know, that we're not talking. If they were in Baltimore and a Chiefs player got hurt, it would be on Baltimore to provide an optimologist. We're not talking gamesmanship and, you know, like... That needs to be addressed ASAP. Would it, have they responded at all? So, the NFLPA said, you know, medical attention should be provided as quickly as possible. That is in the collective bargaining agreement. And it's also just human nature, a common sense. And he said, the NFLPA said, I think this was an unfortunate situation where that did not occur. Thank God for Kyle's situation that it wasn't worse. But here we are with the first game of the season. We got many more games to play. Yeah. We just can't have that. No, you don't want that reputation, either. And then the NFL, their spokesman said, it's disappointing the NFLPA would publicly, or publicize unsupported conclusions without attempting to understand the facts. We have reviewed the case with the Chiefs and the Ravens medical staffs. And are comfortable he received appropriate care. So it's turning into a finger point. Little, he said, he said, he said. What did we say we were going to do for Do Do Do This? Because I've forgotten already. Our boy. Oh, how about this? How about this kid? Sunfire, per screen, just go get it. Cringed, drop off, land the city, or go go go go. So... We, it was... Right at the end of our show yesterday. We were walking back to do the round table. And Paulie was going to the production studio. He goes, oh my God! And I go, what? He goes, look at this! And he hands me the phone. Do you have the audio? Yeah. Listen to this. MLB post. It's been amazing, you know. I watched this team two, three, four o'clock in the morning. And it means the absolute world to actually see them every other life. You see these players, see the ball park and they're like, it's amazing. I've known so many other fans, spoken to many other fans. All different backgrounds. And I was just falling in love with the team and the city. And everything about it. Players, it's amazing. I love it. I love it in San Diego. So that's our beloved Welsh friar, who was the tweet came Paulie from... MLB Europe. MLB Europe. Yes, she had picked up the story of Welsh friar. And tweeted it out with all the pictures of... Well, almost everybody that he got to meet. Uh, whilst he was in San Diego. Manny Machado. Manny. Jackson Marrow. Jackson. Eric Grutner. Bunch of tier one. Bunch of tier one. Sam Levitt. Sam Levitt. Anybody else? I think they got everybody. They got all the important people. They got all the important people. I'm looking at it going, well, surely they'll be the picture of us in there. No, that's all right. Listen, we don't want, uh, we don't want credit. We don't deserve credit. We didn't introduce everyone to Welsh friar. No, that was, that's been another show. Congratulations, Welsh. Oh yeah, goes the Nader was in there. That's cool. Hell yeah. Congratulations, everyone. For your credit, for your credit, for our beloved Welsh friar. That's don't do this. That was don't do this. With Ben and Woods, a 97-3 the fan. All right. Well, listen, I'm adding out to Oracle Park tonight. Very, very excited to get the show on the road out there in San Francisco. Again, I called for it earlier. 833-288-0973. If you want to talk some Padres baseball. Nice big block of time. Yeah, let's kick back. Let's talk some Padres baseball. I'm going to eat the rest of my breakfast. Brito will be right back. Ben and Woods, 97-3 the fan. But should be a good one tonight at Oracle. That's what I'm hoping for, guys. Ben and Woods, 97-3 the fan. Padres back in action tonight. Can I have Dylan Cease against Logan Webb? Cease last Saturday against San Francisco. Six innings, four hits. Four iron runs, two walks and four Ks and Webb. Six innings, 10 hits. Three iron runs, two walks and three Ks. So yeah, the Padres are going to get first ups tonight against Logan Webb. We've got some guys that hit Logan Webb really, really well. And he's at home, though. He can be particularly dominant. We can be dirty on any given night. That's true. And we play, he can. And we can play really well on the road. We, the collective we, the San Diego Padres, I will not be getting any A.B.s in San Francisco tonight to my knowledge. I can ask the skipper Mike Schilt at nine o'clock. What am I doing? Hey, we're good, Mike. Did he go last night in San Francisco, Chipotle? You think? No, no, I'm going to ask him. I bet he's a, I bet he's a chowder and bread ball guy. There's no effing chance. He's a bread ball guy. Paulie, are you kidding me? Come on. He wouldn't eat chowder with fish in it if he had a gun to his head. He, he, remember when we went to San Francisco? No way. He's not the when in Rome guy. When he is in Rome, literal Rome, he will eat Chipotle. Literal Rome, like Italy. He won't do it. We went to, maybe, hey, I'll take the bread bowl, but just put some regular soup in there then, not clam chowder. What kind of, I don't know that they offer? Like, I don't know. Like broth or anything. You don't just see them down there on the wharf with a bread bowl? I absolutely can see them. Y'all got any beef broth in there? So, I mean, I just don't see it. Dude, I don't see it at all. I think, I think that, because we went to PF Chang's with him, and it was one of the more incredible experiences of our lives. We're sitting there with the new skipper, and I order beef and broccoli, poly orders, crispy honey shrimp, then orders kung pao chicken. And then we get around the shilty, and he's like, what kind of sauce is this? They're like, she's like brown sauce. And he's like, huh. Is there like garlic? Is that spicy? Is this spicy? Is this garlic in it? Not really. I can't make it spicy. What about this sauce? How about this sauce on that? And it was basically, I mean, look, and I eat like a toddler. I'm chicken nuggets and mac and cheese, so I get it. But it was like the most, when they brought it out, I was like, bro, that is bone dry, like just plain chicken and broccoli. So, I don't see him down on the wharf, poly sucking down clam chowder. I just don't. I'll find out. I'll have an hour. I'm dying to know now. He's a barbecue guy, yeah. He's a huge, huge barbecue guy, huge. But I don't know how good the barbecue is in San Francisco either. A lot of people have been in the chat asking me, are you going to get the lumpia at Oracle Park? That's a ballpark. That's their, like, it's one of their specialties. And I don't remember if I like lumpia or not. I think you do. It's delicious. What is it? It's the little crisp rolls. Yes. And what's in it? I mean, look up. I don't like egg rolls. It's thinner, though. It's thinner. It is thinner. It is thinner. It's a lupia, various types of spring rolls from China and Indonesia and the Philippines. Lupia are made of thin paper-like or crepe-like pastry. Oh, yes. Okay. I think I like that. And there's a red sauce you dip it in. Oh, yeah. I just don't have it a lot. I haven't, I've had it, like, maybe once or twice. It's chilli sauce. I think, oh, it's so good. Somebody brought it, I think maybe charisma brought it to a tailgate one time. Yeah. And I, Christmas brought them, I think, to like Ben and Woods events. But I was not, I was not, I had had a lot of drinks and I didn't want, I didn't want lupia then. So maybe I'll try it at the ballpark. Is it good? So everyone's saying at Oracle, it's like really, really, really good. I haven't really been to Oracle once. It was a long time ago. I don't know. Definitely didn't have to there at the ballpark, but I'm sure it's good. Okay. All right. Sure. It's good. I'll try it. Jason said to get over ourselves. I don't know what that means. I'm just asking you if I've, I don't know. I'm just asking, I'm asking if I like lupia. I can't remember. I haven't had it in a long long time. It's delicious. I think, I honestly, I think I've had one bite of it in my whole life. Now I want some lupia. Okay. Well, I'm going to get it. So everyone is also saying, crab garlic fries. I can't, I'm not doing garlic fries because it's going to be with me for the whole weekend. The whole weekend. That whole park smells like garlic I heard because it's, that's their, their other specialty. Yeah. So yeah. All right. I'm going to try some lupia tonight. I'm going to get wild at Oracle tonight and hopefully watch, hopefully watch Dylan Sees throw a gym. Let's check traffic. We'll get out to the phones here in a minute and have some fun on a Friday. All right. Jocelyn said that she's mad at us that we, she brought some in, I think. I don't remember. Did you? She brought it. I think she brought some to the extravaganza. Okay. Well, I, I didn't need any there. But I don't remember anything, Jocelyn, ever. You know that. You just heard real or fake. I was over seven on people we've actually have. You've spoken to or haven't spoken to. So yeah, she did, she, she fried it up at 4 a.m. She brought it in. Thank you for that. I did not have any that day. All I did on the Christmas and holiday extravaganza, Jocelyn was eat 14 VGs doughnuts. So I was, I did not, I was not in the mood for egg rolls that early that morning. But thank you for doing that. I, it was appreciated. And I think everybody crushed it there. Let's go out to the phones. Paulie talks upon race baseball, who's uh, who's online. Go to Joe. Joe is calling in. What's up, Joe? Hey, thanks for having me on. How's everybody doing? Doing good, buddy. How are you? Doing well. You know my way to work. You know, are you nervous? No. Oh, good. Okay. Now we're talking. Cough. I love the confidence, man. Got to be. So I have like a two-part question. The first part is, I feel like the Padres are pretty much just playing 500 ball out of late. Yep. Diamondbacks are slumping and the Mets are on fire. Yeah. I know the Mets have like seven games coming up with the Phillies. So maybe that will bring back, back down to Earth. I wanted to hear, and I know the Braves are slightly behind there, but I just wanted to hear what your predictions were on the four, five, and six seeds that we will end up with. And then the second part of it is, because I think we will make the playoffs. I don't really see any of our starting pitchers that are like showing that they deserve the ball in game one, basically. Yeah. I think Michael King gave up three in his last start. Don't see his gave up four. Muskrow gave up six. And obviously those are all just one starts, but I don't see anyone down the stretch. Like Snow last year or Darvish the year before with like, that's our clear game one starters. That's our guy. That's a great, great question. We talked about it a little bit on the round table yesterday. And everyone, I think Craig, Craig and I were in agreement that Michael King for both of us. Now again, you have to remember Joe. So I don't have a crystal ball. I don't know how it's going to come down. But as I look at it right now, not just me, a lot of people are saying, based on the schedules of the two teams, it's basically the Diamondbacks and Padres, everyone thinks you're going to be in in some one or two. So they're, you know, flip flop those. Right now, we are half a game. Half a game. Half a game. They, if the playoffs started today. Yep. Arizona would host San Diego Padres in the wildcard round. And then it would be the Mets taking on the Brewers. Yep. So at that point, so we take on the Giants. Diamondbacks are playing Milwaukee at home. In Arizona, uh, the Mets are at Philly. Okay. So the Mets are at Philly. Philly is playing a little bit better right now. They, they, they had a little bit of a, a down run there, but they're playing better. They've won three in a row, eight and two in their last 10. I'd say, you know, they've, they've kind of ride to the ship. The Braves are playing the Dodgers and the, that's the one that not just me, but I think most pundits are saying, man, with the injury to Ronaldo Lopez, with the injury to Austin Riley, with all the injuries that are adding up, they're just kind of running out of time. And their schedule is pretty nasty. So my prediction today, just, if you ask me, I'm going to tell you, I think it stands, I think it ends up. I actually think it ends up just like it is right now as, uh, I think San Diego jumps Arizona. San Diego jumps there is a very, very possible, very possible. And remember, uh, the last, you know, three games of the season are going to be against the Arizona Diamonds. It's coming down. Could come, could come down to the wire, which will be really exciting. Now the second part of your question is, and I know where you're coming from here, because we did kick this around yesterday. Who in your eyes has earned the right to be the number one starter? It's such a hard question to answer today because I don't know. Do you have to qualify it like, well, well, 15 games left. So five starters, everyone has three more starts. Right. Okay, today is cease. Tomorrow is must grow. And, and you go, I think Perez is on Sunday. Martin Perez is going on Sunday and then it flips back over. Darvish. So if you played it out today, I think Craig figured it out. If I think he said yesterday, it would be king would be the odd man out. Right. He'd be fourth in the rotations. Stayed with how it goes now now. There's off days coming up to. Okay, there's off days and then you got to factor in. Is that last weekend in Arizona going to be impactful? How important is it? So then you might have to rejigger for that. So now you ask, like, all right, if all, all things being equal. Yeah. We finished the season today. And everyone is, it's not possible. No one's going to be, no one's going to be. But dream scenario rest, everybody's rested. And it's on rotation. And you get to choose your three guys for a potential three game series. I think I said yesterday. I think I said, Musgrove. No, I'm sorry. I think I said king. Sees. Musgrove. And I think Craig said the same thing. Darvish gets left off. Darvish in, in, yeah, in the first round. Based on, just based on not enough innings. He'll have three more starts. You know, I just don't know. Like, and so, and, and, and L.O. said, let's go. Darvish, Musgrove, Sees, king to the bullpen. And we talked about this because the way that it's always been done, always, seemingly in baseball is, no, I'm going with my, I'm going with the guy I can trust, right? The you, Darvish, that's been there. Michael King has been really nowhere near, you know, starting a game one of a play up. He has, in my opinion, he has the nastiest stuff currently as it stands on the staff. I, I, I know that the, the inning got away from him the other day. But remember, he got himself in trouble. And then he got his ground ball that he needed and crony dropped it. And, and so again, he did not have the ability to put his head down and get through it, gave up a couple hits after that, the run scored. That being said, man, I'm pretty confident. And maybe I'm foolish, but I, I, I look at Sees, Darvish, Musgrove. They talked about, we talked about yesterday. Take the six minutes out of Joe Musgrove, start, which, you know, I guess can't do, but take that weird six minute where seven guys in a row got a hit. He's been fit, like phenomenal, phenomenal. So that's, that's who I give the ball to game one. So that thing is like, do you want, he's not a, it's not a, well, he's from here, or well, he threw that no hitter three years ago. You know, guys earned it. It's, it's, he's a dog, 100%, which is why I kind of want him. He's got experience. It's why I want him at the back. I don't want Sees in the game three. I want, I want Joe game one because you need, you want, you don't need it, but you want game one so badly. Well, if having to only win one of your last two is so much different than being in the, in the hole, oh and one and having to win back to back games on the road. Bro, but it's so different. It's like, if I got three to play with, if I got three to play with, like I'm not, if we lose game one, we're not out of it, right? Don't you want that experience? Do you want the, the Dylan Sees experience in a game three? I don't think you do. I almost think you go, I go Joe Sees, then game two, then who's three? Darvish and I save King for game three. Baby, that's, I mean, look, again, but I know these guys have been shaky right now a little bit. I know there's been some, some things that you can point to. Who do you trust the most right now as it stands? And again, you know, has Michael King, Michael King, in my opinion, has earned the right to have one of those first couple games, I think. So I don't know, man. It's a great question. I mean, Darvish, Darvish has the most experience of any 100%, which is why they'll probably go with him in a game was, I mean, you know, he's slowly ramping up and I was more than okay with what he gave us in his last start. So you got to remember, he's got to have like what three more starts between now and then. Well, it's going to be really important to see how he looks in those three starts. If Darvish is fully ready to go, I don't know how he doesn't get a start, but then it's like, are you going to not pitch Sees? Cause you traded for him specifically for that. They playoff starts. So I don't know that you can send him either, but for me, getting that first game, especially if you're on the road, I think is so important. Yeah, they're all going to be on the road. So yeah, if you play on the road, you mean. Yeah. If San Diego finishes in the five seed, I think I throw a most confident in Joe and how dominant he has been saved for five minutes, whatever in his last start. And again, we'll see what happens for everybody in their next three starts. I just, we all start today. I'm giving Joe the ball. We know, we all know how baseball works. You've had, you know, and I think she'll can speak to this. At some point, probably not today. It's probably not the right time to ask him, but at some point, you know, he would, they would go like, oh, Adam Lane writes our game one starter, you know, after a good year, but it was just a guy that they could trust. Let's be honest too. I think you do make those decisions. How much does playoff experience factor? I think it factors in a lot. I do. And I think, but at some point, everybody had to have their first playoff start at some point, right? Right. So, you know, if Michael King continues to do what he's done, I look at him and I go, yeah, man, I want his, I want his nasty two-seamer riding in on the hands of Corbin Carroll in a game one, you know, I want him, you know, neutralizing Katell Marte, Christian Walker, and he's got the stuff to do it. But then again, when they're right, C's, Darvish, Musgrove, they all do. So it's kind of a, it's kind of a fruitless question at this point, because we don't know how it's going to, don't know how it's going to play out. But in what universe do you see a manager going, yeah, we're going to start you in the bull pen for, you know, three game series. I just don't think it's going to happen, man. I really, really don't. I don't think, I don't think he could happen. Adam says he doesn't think he's earned a playoff start. Also could be a weapon out of the bull pen. Yeah. And I think he has, I think he has earned a playoff start. Has, who's earned it more this year? Michael King or you Darvish and Joe Musgrove. The answer is Michael King bar none. Who's earned it more this year? Michael King has. So by that logic, you know, it's king and sees and then you figure it out. I guess you're probably the counterpoint would be like, no, who's earned it over the course of their career? Sure. Absolutely fair. Absolutely fair. And that's what the manager and the holistic approach is going to have to figure out. But again, we don't know anything because we don't know how it's going to play out. We don't know how much that we're going to have to ride those guys. All right, let's go back out to the phones. Uh, we got Robert calling in. Robert, you got about 30 seconds. You want to weigh in on this? Yes, sir. I got just one, one, one thing I could say about, uh, the starting rotation that we got for this, uh, postseason coming up. You know, we're going to be in the postseason, bro. Yep. We got Joe Musgrove that shoved in New York with everybody on his back. I mean, that's the only way that I can see it going, bro. Game one. Game one. All right. You're, you're in Pauli's camp. I like it, man. I got no problem with that whatsoever whatsoever. So Adam, by the way, I, I misquoted Adam. He said he has earned a playoff start. He said, but he would also be filthy out of the bullpen. Very, very good point. Um, so yeah, King sees Musgrove. If you split those first two, guarantee somebody's coming out of the bullpen that you probably weren't expecting. Oh, yeah. Game three. And if not, if you win it, then they're your game one starter in the, uh, in the DS. No, I'm excited for it. I know that, man, but these are, these are those, uh, these are those questions that if it doesn't work well, if it doesn't work the right way. With this, this, with this many quality starters, as the Padres have, it's one of those things where you're like, oh, I hope we don't, hope we don't make the wrong decision. But it's good. Look, it's going to be all hands on deck, man. Uh, for those three games, it's going to be elite and electric. I guess for me, and it's just, it's just, uh, the circumstances for Michael King, but he seems like the only one that wouldn't be weird to see coming out of the bullpen. Just because he, just because he's done it. I can't see Joe coming out of the pen. Yeah. Can't see Darish coming out of the pen. Yeah. And I just said you, you know, you shipped off so many guys to go get an eight, a frontline starter, like Dylan C was your number one. You know, you can't, you can't have him coming out of the pen. Nope. I think it. Yeah. And it's no fault of Michael Kings. Yeah, not at all. And if you advance to the DS, King will get a start. Oh, yeah. A hundred percent. So yeah, you got to get there for much. Janine says they better figure out how to beat the Giants first. Janine, I can always count on you for sobering reality. My sweet, sweet, she is the best and she just makes me insane. 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