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Episode #15: Alby

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38m
Broadcast on:
06 Sep 2024
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In this episode we interview Alby. Alby is Amie's 10 year old son with a passion and gift for gardening. He shows us his brilliance and we think is an inspiration for us to not only get out in the garden but also to find that thing we love and have a gift for and do it.

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- Hi, my name is Eileen Crispell. I am a storyteller, writer, wife, older mom, architect, and a shaman. I help people heal and empower their souls. I saved my own life by applying medical medium information and I've been applying this information in mind in my family's life since 2012. - Hi, I am Aimee Jones. I'm an autism mom, a home educator, a noted gardener, a near-death experiencer, living a plant-based lifestyle, and I help people heal their souls as a shaman. I've been following medical medium information ever since 2015, and mine in my family's life has changed dramatically since. - Hi all, Aimee and I here with another podcast, and we have another special guest with us today. And we are going to talk about, I'll give you a little hint. We're gonna probably talk a lot about gardening. And if any of you know Aimee or have seen her son on social media talking about gardening, that is who we have with us here today. We have Albie with us today. So welcome, Albie. - Hi, Albie. Gotta say hello to everyone. - Hi. - Here you go. - So Aimee, why don't you get us started out? - Yeah, let's get started. So Albie is my 10-year-old son with a really strong passion for gardening. And it's been quite an adventure for him, but for all of us as well, because he's something of a gardener and also a teacher. And so we've all been on this journey, particularly me and my daughter as well. And Albie, it would be really great to hear a little bit from you about what type of gardening that you do, because I know that you have succeeded where I failed. And when I'm talking about gardening, I'm talking particularly about growing food on tile, although we do grow flowers and things too. But why were you so successful when all I got was overrun by weeds? What happened? - Okay, so I use the no dig method. And the no dig method is a really simple method of just minimal disturbance of the soil. You can dig, but just use your minimal disturbance. And it's really making the no dig bed is putting cardboard on top at the bottom. And then you don't dig the compost into the ground. You let it on the top. You just keep it on the top. The cardboard decompose and what the cardboard's doing is gathering the weeds to give them not any light because without light plants can't grow. So that's smothering the weeds and that decompose in a few weeks. So it's giving the plants you have a chance to grow. And you plant straight into no dig beds. And when you do get weeds, then just leave out the root and the big root at the bottom. Leave that because that would get weaker by the more weeding you do off the root at the top. - Great, so you've got your existing ground level you put cardboard on top, then you put compost on top of that and then you can plant into the compost. How much compost are we putting on top of the cardboard? - About 15 centimetres, probably a bit less because that is quite a bit of compost. You could do 10 centimetres, but around that much doesn't have to be exact. - Great, and what are the benefits then of doing the no dig method? - Well, the no dig method gives you healthier soil because when you're digging the soil, you're breaking networks in it, such as microisofungal networks. And you are doing less work because you don't have to dig a whole time. You don't have to be constantly digging. And er, giving air to the soil, which is something good said to be good to do. You're just letting carbon out of the soil and carbon is great in the soil. It gives you lots. It really feeds the plants. - I was listening to some experts, some very old experts talk about the health of soil on another podcast I was listening to. And here is this 10 year old telling me the same thing. I love this. (laughs) - Yes, it really is coming that way round in our house. It is coming from our bee and then out to the grownups and other family members. And even to your grandparents, Grandad's been growing tomatoes for as long as I can remember. But he's learning a whole lot through you now with his tomato growing, isn't he? - Yeah, like ripening them inside just before they're early, just before they're ripe doing a bit more deleaving and taking the tops out tomatoes a bit earlier than he usually does. - And why do you ripen them inside? I'll be, tell us that. - So you can pick them early, just to say showing color for the bigger tomatoes, smaller ones when they're a bit more showing color, 'cause then that gets energy to the plant to make more tomatoes. - You know, I was just telling Adley before we started, there's somebody in my house who loves the home grown tomatoes so much that none of us get any, because they sneak out to the garden and eat them before the rest of us can. So I actually picked a couple, I think I picked them too green and brought them into my bedroom to ripen so that I could actually have some of the tomatoes that we were growing. - And that's testament to how good home grown food tastes, right? - Oh gosh, so good, right, Adley? - Yeah, it tastes so much better and you've got much more variety than in the supermarket, you can grow different colors, different tastes, different looks. It's really, really interesting, you know, varieties you can get. - So you know, Albie, because of you, last fall, I went out to my grocery store and I bought one or two, I can't remember bulbs of like an heirloom garlic and I went out to my garden and I planted all my garlic and we had the most amazing garlic that I've ever had and once again, there was a person in this house who used most of it (laughs) and I was wondering that we had a much larger garden area to be able to grow enough garlic for like a whole year because it was really amazing, powerful stuff. - And garlic's really good at storing. - Yeah. - So lots of allions are lots of things like that, really good at storing, so yeah. - So do you know a lot about how to store the vegetables and stuff too? - Well, I'm not the best at storing 'cause I've only got small space and I don't store too much but I know like onions, garlic, if you dry them, then they could store winter squashes, cheer them at just putting on a window seal or something for two weeks and then they'll store, it'll store for quite a while, lots of them and you could do dehydrating and stuff as well. - Do you have a favorite thing to grow or do you just like growing at all? - Well, this year, it kind of varies on the year. This year, I don't really like eating beetroot but I've grown beetroot and I've loved it. It's been super productive. That's cool. I think that happens a lot too. When people get, when they grow their own food and cook their own food, they suddenly their taste change. They kind of learn about the food and I have to tell you Mike, we moved into next door to a woman who has farm animals and she was slaughtering and processing a large pig, which is what happens on farms. And my kids were not vegan at that point yet but one of them said, "Mom, is that where bacon comes from?" I said, "Yes." And I said, "I don't think that we haven't bacon anymore." Which is interesting because I don't have any judgment on it but when we really understand where our food comes from, it really changes the choices we make and so that's what you're saying. Like you didn't think you liked beets but when you grow them yourself, you love them. So that's really cool. - There's been a few foods that you've enjoyed. Albie hasn't there, things like cabbage. You didn't used to like cabbage did you? Now you're-- - Brospots. - Brospots. - Brospots. - Yeah, now there's a few things that are sort of working their way in. It definitely gets you back in touch with food. And Albie, so Albie is home educated now. But when you're at school, what was it like with your, obviously you see children all the time but this was a topic that came up. You had conversations that scored in you about food 'cause sometimes you do cooking or things with kids. And what were they, they didn't really know where their foods come from is what you noticed or they didn't even know what certain foods were, did they? - Yeah, like there was multiple foods where they had literally no idea what they were doing, like what they were as we were cooking and we were doing a class lesson and they thought, curly lettuce 'cause you can't get curly lettuce around here really in supermarkets was kale. And I want people to be educated in like finding food which 'cause there's so many varieties they want them to know like what foods what because lots of, they just have to grow the varieties which store the best and they don't really have to taste the best in the supermarket. It's kind of about storing. - Yeah, that is so cool because I would love to have more varieties to grow. And I don't know, can you find more varieties in seeds? - Yeah, yeah, if you find a good seed company I don't know many around where you in like, because I'm in UK, like the US or places like that. I'm not too sure I want to see varieties there but I've got quite few good seed companies. - Do you want to give a shout out to some of the seed companies in case there's people in the UK who want to get some? - So there's real seeds, vital seeds. There's tamer, organics and primacy to direct us what I usually use. - Cool, yeah, I saw something the other day they were showing a watermelon variety that nobody grows because the skin's kind of tender and it doesn't ship well. And it was like, "Oh, but I want to taste that kind of watermelon." You know, it might be better than what we're eating. - Yeah, and all the healing benefits, this is something that we know, Eileen, as well as of the heirloom varieties that are kind of, you know, bred out a lot of the foods that we have in supermarkets today. And so when Albie's growing these lettuces, it's wonderful to taste like so many different lettuce 'cause you can get, like, I can get ahold of a couple of organic varieties of lettuce that the supermarket, I go to, and that's my choice. But at home, we get a lot more choice. Albie, you should, if you don't mind, tell us about growing lettuce because lettuce is actually a year round food you can grow and you can pick it in a certain way so that you're not constantly serving it. Do you want to tell people about that? So there's quite a few dates to so lettuce. If you want to get the earliest sowing to do is February in the year and then just sow it throughout until September for winter harvests. And the way to pick it is if you want to, you can pick out the outer leaves. So that means, and you leave the plant in so the plant keeps growing from the middle leaves and 80% of the photosynthesizing is from the middle leaves. If you pick the outer leaves, you'll get harvests for mumps kind of and easily weeks. In summer, they will go to flower, which is also called bolting, not much quicker because they don't like heat. But in the winter, they will go from, they will start cropping in about November till even to early May. So that's quite a few months 'cause there's just cool weather unless they get killed by frost. - That's really cool. - Yeah. - Yeah, so. - We eat a big salad here in the sauce every day and I'm always amazed how different the salad can taste depending on the lettuce that's in it. A lot of times we like to put herbs like basil and cilantro and arugula because they're what we can get that have more of a flavor, don't just taste bitter. Like a lot of the lettuces you buy in the store. Do you have a favorite lettuce that tastes, you really like the taste of? - Well, I didn't really grow tuna lettuce varieties. I've only grown two so far and last year and we're growing quite a few at the moment but we haven't picked them yet. - I'll be interested to hear what you like. - Yeah. But usually with the lettuces I can't have too many because they got such a strong taste. - They do. - They got really strong, yeah. - Yeah. So I'm the big, I'm like the rabbit in the house but I can't grow enough lettuce for me 'cause I just chomp it down but yeah, Abby finds the taste so strong but Abby, what's the name of the one, the lettuce variety I'm most excited about that hasn't, you know, we haven't germinated, we haven't got it in the ground yet. - Oh, she's really excited about this variety called Ruffled Soul. - Ruffled Soul. What a wonderful name. - I can't wait to eat that. (laughs) - Well, you know, Anthony always is coming up with, you know, these little things that we haven't heard before but the other day when he was making a heavy metal detox smoothie and he put the wild blueberries, the blueberry juice and the blueberry powder in it and he was saying that the blueberry powder comes from somewhere else besides wine man's juice. And so it's got different nutrients in it. Same, like all wild blueberries good for you, you know, versus domesticated blueberries but even within wild blueberries, he's like different, there's different varieties and they'll have different things so he goes, I just put them all in so I get this nice, really strong thing and I think about that, like with what you're talking about with variety of lettuce and all of that kind of stuff 'cause then you're getting a more variety in your body which is really cool. I mean, beyond just the taste being better and more variety and taste. - Yeah, and when you're growing heirloom varieties which are old heritage varieties and organic and you can grow actually the genetically modified varieties such as corn and beetroot because they're old varieties, they're organic, they're early in which means you can say seed of them and they're not genetic in modified varieties so that's why we're growing beetroot and corn this year. Really excited to be here. - That's cool, it's so cool. Yeah, we can't remember what corn tastes like 'cause it's been that long since we had any. So he's growing his own which is really exciting. - Yeah, yeah, and Albi that makes me kind of think about taking back control and the responsibility for our food, that's what we get from growing food is that we get to decide what we wanna eat, what varieties of it we want to eat and seed saving is something else that you're starting to discover and look into. Do you wanna talk a little bit about that and what the benefits of it? - Okay, so you're seed saving, you can spend quite a bit of money on seeds, sometimes they are like one pound a packet of about 100 seeds or something but you can still save quite a lot of money and I've been always saving seed of my tomatoes for ever since I started growing them which was only kind of last year, but yeah, and I'm starting to save seed of a little bit more, so I say seed of peas and some other stuff. And also, if it says F1 hybrid on the seed packet, that means if you say seed of it, then it won't be the same variety as what you grew from last year. So I'm not really happy about that F1 thing. But I'm choosing good seed companies as I mentioned, like vitamin seeds and row seeds which are all ereling, which means you can save them. - That's cool. - Yeah, yeah. And tell us a little bit about the benefits you get from going in your garden because you're a 10 year old boy, so you have lots of other interests, lots of sports interests and you wanna go and play with friends and all these other things as well. You're not just in the garden, but what are some of the benefits you get from going out into the garden? - It gives me a chance to slow down and take a break and it makes me a notice of a stuff and it encourages me to grow flowers for the bees because so many bees are not around these days, pollinators and you have to really help them. You have to think of what's a plant like flowers for the other flowers of your veg to get pollinated and you have to, I love tactics, so I have to think tactically about what I need to, or I need to plant stuff. - Yeah, in fact, can I sit down? - Sorry, how did you figure out, how did you find out about No Dig Gardening? Do you know the story? - Sorry. - Yeah, yeah, I know that story. - Sorry, did you try to grow a different way first? - No, so I did some weed-in with my mum in the flower bed and I said, okay, let's plumb an apple tree here. So we got an apple tree and I really enjoyed gardening it and I thought, oh my, this is really fun, I want to try gardening. So it took me another six months or something until the day before my birthday where my nanny grinder came around and they told us about something my cousin was, my auntie was doing, and she was doing this thing called No Dig Gardening and she got it from Charles Dowding. And so I checked his YouTube account and mainly I learnt gardening from his YouTube account kind of and did my own experiments and stuff and that's how I learned it. - And you wound up meeting him, didn't you? - Yes, I met him once in October last year. I didn't interview with him this year in July. That was pretty cool. What, so was he a nice guy? - Yeah, he's a really, really nice guy. - He's a cool dude, isn't he? - Yeah. - Half of the idea of planting an apple tree, I love that. - And Albie, what are we doing this weekend? - Oh, we're going to see his garden in Somerset. He got an open day on Sunday. So we're going to see his garden. - Amazing. - Yeah, you know, Albie, I was going to say, well, how about telling the little story of the runner beans and the black fly? You were talking about tactics. There's just a really sweet little story of what we learnt from it. - So, black fly, also called aphids, usually a tack. Runner beans, that's just an actual thing. So I've already, I've presumed that and planted lots of flowers such as marigolds to bring in lady birds, which eat the aphids. And so I was, so I didn't spray it or anything. I'm organic. I don't use any pesticides. I don't want to injure any bugs or anything or bees. They're already getting too much, sprayed too much. So I'm helping them by planting flowers. And I just let the lady birds deal with the aphids. I lost about five plants, but I was fine because the lady birds taken out most of the aphids, still a few aphids on there, but I'm not worried anymore because the lady birds were really, really, really helped. And we learnt about Lady Bird larvae and it's really, really cool with how gardening can teach you so much. - Gladys, that's the part of gardening that overwhelms me sometimes. Like, what am I supposed to plant next to what and what will eat what bugs? But that all just seems to come so naturally to you. - Yeah, I did spend in the winter, I just watched lots of gardening programs well through the summer as well. And I do experiments, which is something you really need to do. And yeah, lots, and you just need to, you make a few mistakes in the first years and then, yeah, you're really going. - But they're not really mistakes if you're learning from them, are they? - Yeah, they're just learning colors, kind of. - Right. - You lose quite a few plants at the start, but it's fine because you learn quite a bit and next year, you know, that you could do it differently and now you need to do it differently. - Amazing. - Yeah, and Albie, you have your own little tagline, 'cause Albie is the no dig kid on Instagram and because he uses the no dig method, obviously. But you came up with your own little tagline that perfectly describes your passion. I don't know if you know what a tagline is, Albie. I think, do you know what I'm referring to? I was going to ask you to say what it is you want to do. Why are you on Instagram anyway? What was it you want us to do? - I'm on Instagram to inspire people 'cause not really kids are not really on Instagram, but what I want to do is inspire a new generation of no dig growers. - Yeah, and what would happen? Let's just play this out in our minds. What would happen if we didn't inspire a new, if there wasn't people inspiring a new generation of no dig growers? I know that something Charles Dowding is really trying to do as well. - Yes, so if you think about it, most of our food is being shopped in from other places, which means more not the best varieties. And what they do grow here is all the genetically modified varieties, you see tons of fields of corn, all of this stuff, and we're getting shopped in tons and tons of food. We can even grow men in here in summer. So in greenhouses, that is where you could grow it outside, but it'll be pretty tricky, but you need to, but yeah, 'cause we're not, we have the generation before us had literally, we weren't taught any gardening. We weren't taught any, for example, woodworks. I did a woodwork club recently. We weren't taught any life skills, except for work, phones and computers. And so in this one, we need to learn, in this generation, we need to learn how to garden, we need life skills again, so that we can, so we don't have to get everything shopped in. We get a few bits shopped in, but we need more, we need to work together to get a nice farming community. - Bravo, I'll be. (laughing) - Somebody's gotta make the food, brother food. (laughing) - Yeah, yeah, and it's a real passion, so they aren't words that I've just put in Arby's mouth. This is a nice stuff, he's soaked up and taken on for himself. And yeah, and he comes out with this stuff, and I think, yeah, actually, you're right, I better get out in that garden, and I will go and do some watering, and I will help you out, because it has really, you've certainly inspired us in this family, and I know you've inspired Eileen, sometimes I get a message saying, Amy, ask Alby, how do you know when the garlic's done? (laughing) - Well, it amazes me, too, because we talked this week to my son, Max, who's 17, and I watched your face, Amy, when he started talking about mythology, and you were like, oh, I'm a little blown away here, and I'm a little blown away here listening to Alby talking about gardening, because what they have in similar is, it feels like it's just in their DNA to know these things that they're interested in, you know, and to, or to have the interest to go find out the stuff, it just eeks out of them, whereas, you know, and I just love this, because I think it speaks to the fact that we've all come here with something like that, that we love, and we want to inspire the world to understand, and to be able to figure that out, and to start doing that at 10, is that how old you are, Alby? - Yeah. - Yeah. I mean, how amazing, do you see yourself getting tired of gardening, or do you see yourself gardening for the rest of your life? - I'm always gonna have other obsessions, but I'll always be with gardening, I'll always be in the garden, but I'll have other obsessions, but they're coming faces, but I'll always be with the garden, I think. - A wise man. - Yeah, we cool you or a wise man. - And we cool them up sessions, because when Alby is interested in something, you might have picked up during this. It's obsessive, it's like, you can't stop him doing it, it's like taking the oxygen away. And so we've been, we know everything about World War II and a lot of like geopolitical history, and you know, there's lots of interests, so it doesn't stop here, does it, Alby? Because you're only 10, but all the interests, they carry on, you don't cast them aside, they carry on and you'll be able to move forwards with them. You know, it's funny, I was saying to Alby the other day, because Anthony William, he said this thing recently, didn't he, on Telegram where he said, I think it was in Telegram where he talks about how we would need to bring this information back with us. You know, this healing information that we're taking on in this life, we need to sort of, we'll probably need to bring it background with us when we come into another body someday. And I was just saying to Alby how, you know, he's just come here with this. - He's come here with it, that's for sure. - Yeah, which is what you're saying. You know, I just thought, it's so funny in how he was learning his war tactics early on, which enables him to be very tactical about the garden. And there's just so much, it's so perfect by design, isn't it? When you just let the soul, to do the thing that it wants to do, you want to something. - If you can get all the noise and distractions out of the way and just let your soul do what it meant to come here to do, it's a beautiful thing. And it feels good too, doesn't it Alby? I bet you feel good when you're in the garden. - Yeah. - It's really calming. - Yeah, even when you're weeding. Yeah, as much of as everybody else, 'cause of the no dig method. So I have a really silly question. Like if you're just planting something like a carrot that grows deep into the ground, does that matter? Does it work its way through the cardboard? - Okay, so the cardboard would decompose in a few weeks. So the carrot, which gives the plants enough time to root in the compost they have, and then they can root into the soil afterwards. - So they don't come out like weird shaped carrots. - Well, yeah, no dig helps with that. But sometimes they will fork or something, but they're still perfectly good to eat or they might hit a stone and they might just go crazy. - Did you guys grow potatoes? - Yeah. - And did you grow them the no dig method? - Yes, so potatoes, 'cause compost at the top is usually pretty soft, and the soil at the bottom is firm, not compact, which is what everyone's usually worrying about, but firm enough for roots to go down, but not firm enough for potatoes to perform in it. So if you just pull out the plant and have a little dig around with your hands, you could have a trial. So well, in the compost, then the potatoes will be near the surface. - It's like digging for treasure, isn't it, when you get the potatoes out, and love that. Get your hands in, yeah, just rub a dig around. - Yeah, the one thing you do need to do, you need to get it spayed out, is parsnips, 'cause they grow really long down. So you really have to get the big spayed out, and give that, you've got to dig that, but I think that's one of the only things you have to dig out, really. - One of the strategic things that I have thought about with my own garden is, what can I grow like, that I wouldn't have to buy it in the grocery store. Like, I grow a lot of herbs, because herbs are expensive in the grocery store, and they have a long period of time where they grow, like, my parsley will grow even when it's snowing sometimes. And so I can grow enough parsley to not have to buy it in the store. Whereas, celery, I can't grow enough celery. It's got a long growing season, and I can't really, we use so much celery. So that's one of the things I tried to think about, was what can I grow, that will actually, that I have enough space to grow enough, that it makes sense for me to put the energy into it. Do you ever think about that? - Yeah, Mum's always telling me, okay, we need to grow lots of this, 'cause I buy lots of this. And, but mainly, I grow, I experiment with stuff, and she says, if we should grow it again, but if I really enjoy growing it, then there's no stuff in, oh, I just grow it. - I get it. (laughing) - But yeah, she usually tells, I get the idea, like, we have to grow lots of salads and stuff. (laughing) - You gotta feed your mum. - Love salad. - Mum, who's a rabbit. (laughing) - It's a bold lettuce, literally. (laughing) - It's funny, me too. (laughing) - Yeah, so Albie, have you got any encouragement for people that are, they might be gardening, but they might be able to take something away, or they might be new to gardening. Have you got any tips to sort of either help beginners or people that just could take something a little more away? - So, I would start off with easy plants to grow, such as lettuces, just give them enough water during, when it's dry, and give support for peas. They're easy to grow. You grow lettuces, even peas and containers. Grow courgettes, they do take up quite a bit of space, but they're really productive. - Which is so cute in here, or like summer squash. - Mm-hmm. (laughing) - Yellow ones, summer squash, I think. - Yeah, you'll call it summer squash. - Well, yellow ones, summer squash in your bit, but-- - That's right. (laughing) (mumbles) - Yeah, and experiment with plants, try plants. It also depends on your climate. So, do you see if there's any good growers around on social media who have around the same climate as you? And remember, gardening isn't really, isn't ever exact. It's always experimenting, and you don't always have to get everything right. - Yeah, so don't be, you know, discouraged if something doesn't grow that well. - Yeah, and how would you, sorry, there. I was just gonna say, what would you say to if there's a parent listening, thinking, I'd like my kid to get involved in gardening. Well, how would you recommend to get kids involved? - Okay, so, start off by letting them do the task they love. Do not really, unless you find out they could like it, tell them what they need to do. Always ask for help if they need help, and just slowly introduce more jobs so that they can have some, so that they can enjoy the jobs they have, and it also depends on the child as well. - That is so smart. - Yeah, yeah, because Albie has to remind me sometimes not to take the fun out of it, because sometimes I get really excited about it, sometimes I'm like, right, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this. And he says, I was having a really nice time out here, just cooking my tomatoes, and then you come along with 10 things I've got to do, and suddenly I don't feel like doing it anymore. So I think there's something really important in that. - Well, there is really brilliance in there because, you know, we've had eating issues in our house where people got traumatized around food because it caused pain. And so in order to get out with that, we need you to make food always a good experience. So, right, instead of forcing somebody to eat something, we had to just figure out how can we make food fun? How can we make food a good experience because there was trauma around it? So I imagine if you force a kid to do anything, including gardening, you know, make them out there, spending hours, you know, digging or whatever, they're not going to want to come back to it. But if it's fun, like Albie says, oh, you're letting them do the part, they feel an affinity for, then they'll grow into it. - Yeah, definitely, and also with the gardening, I've always loved cooking as young as I was really young, and gardening also helps with the cooking. I just picked some produce from the garden and I learned new recipes or admin to recipes, and it's really exciting when you just have fruit and vegetables you could pick from the garden and then just put them straight into your cooking. - That's one of my favorite things too, Albie, to like, real as I need an herb and run out to the garden to get it, it's the best. - Yeah, and one of the next things we're trying to take on, or you're trying to take on, let's say, and I'm just coming along for the ride, is more about composting, isn't it, Albie? And so that really completes that cycle. And we've got a wormery, which is so stinky in the summer, that no one really wants to go near it, but we had composting lots with the worms there and we've got our compost bins, but this is another project for you, isn't it, Al? - Yeah, so I want to complete the whole cycle, because, when you grow your next plants, you've got to be ready for the next year. So, because then you might, you'll probably just be spending lots and lots of money on compost, but it's really simple composting. You can find tons of it years on our social media. It's something which lots of people just focus on, and lots of people really do it, but it's something which is underrated in gardening, I think. - I think Albie, you could be really helpful in this, as you grow, is so much, at the time, when I've looked into something gardening, like compost, there's these really big books and they make it sound really complicated, and I go, "Mm,t, I can't deal with that," but you have such gift for making this sound easy, and fun, and simple, that's really a beautiful thing. - It will take some time to find the people who make it simple, and who have good results, and it might take-- - I think that's you, Albie. (laughing) There is actually quite a lot of people who have good stuff as well as for that. - Oh, great. Well, hopefully, people feel inspired as per Albie's mission to go out there and inspire some people to garden, but hopefully it's also just kind of fun listening to somebody talk about something they love, 'cause that, I certainly enjoy that. - And Albie, can people go to your Instagram page and ask you questions? - Yes, can always direct me and ask me a question if you need any help. - And you are the no dig kid on Instagram, is that right? - I'm no dig kid on Instagram. - Awesome. Well, thank you, Albie, so much for coming and talking to us. We really enjoyed this conversation with you, and I'm gonna go out in my garden now, and I appreciate it even more, I think. - All right, everyone, we hope that you understand today just how powerful your soul is and that you are inspired by Albie's soul and gardening and that you are coming closer every day to who you really are, and have a great day. - We started Rewild Renew as a way to coach and empower others to heal and connect with their souls. The views and opinions you will hear on the Rewild Renew podcast are ours and are not meant to be medical advice. Please seek professional assistance if you feel you need it. [BLANK_AUDIO]