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Trump Vows Deportations From Town Rocked By “Pet-Eating” Lies

Trump, speaking earlier in California, promised “large deportations” from Springfield, Ohio, a town that has become a flashpoint as Republicans have spread false claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets. President Joe Biden criticized Trump for disparaging the migrants. This as absentee ballots have started going out in Alabama, and other states begin sending mail-in ballots later this month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Trump, speaking earlier in California, promised “large deportations” from Springfield, Ohio, a town that has become a flashpoint as Republicans have spread false claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets. President Joe Biden criticized Trump for disparaging the migrants. This as absentee ballots have started going out in Alabama, and other states begin sending mail-in ballots later this month.

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Just today alone, Donald Trump made a feeble attempt to distance himself from a conspiracy theorist, while actively fueling the dangerous lie that migrants are eating pets in Springfield, Ohio. His infamous Devon claim from Tuesday's debate is now ricocheting across social media. It's catchy and the Internet is having a good laugh, but the people of Springfield, Ohio are not a second bomb threat rattled that city today. Justice Trump stoked further division when he promised to target the city with mass deportations. If he wins, we will do large deportations from Springfield, Ohio, large deportations. We're going to get these people out. They call them nests of bad people. They're all now in the United States, and they're now taking over cities. It's like an invasion from within. Except that the Haitians are there legally. Trump is sticking to that message. She's also defending far right activist Laura Loomer, a recent campaign plane companion who has a documented history of lying and making racist comments. Laura has been a supporter of mine, just like a lot of people are supporters. And she's been a supporter of mine. She speaks very positively of the campaign. I don't control Laura, Laura has to say what she wants. She's a she's a free spirit, a free spirit in a post. Trump later said she does not work for the campaign and said he disagrees with statements that she's been making without saying which statements, all of this with just 53 days to go until the election as Trump right now is campaigning and battle ground Nevada where he's holding a rally in Las Vegas. We'll show you some of that. If it warrants that attention and with me now is former Trump White House communications director, Anthony Scaramucci, Anthony, great to see as always, I do want to jump right into this Springfield, Ohio issue. Trump calling for legal Haitian immigrants. We should emphasize to our viewers these are legal immigrants to be deported. What do you make of this whole thing? You've been watching it all week. You know how Trump operates? What's going on here? Hi, you know, look, he's got a three pronged reelection strategy. It's anti immigration that would include all immigration, legal or illegal. It's misogyny and it's racism. And those are the three things that he's pressing the buttons on as hard as he possibly can. And the Laura Lomer stuff is absolutely disgusting. What she's saying about Vice President Harris. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Jim, just think about that for a second. She's speaking out against it and calling it racist, yet people like JD Vance in the campaign, not saying anything his wife is obviously, of course, of Indian American descent. So this is what Trump does. He moves the goalposts on everybody. They all equivocate for him. They all rationalize that they're there for these various reasons. But listen, it's absolutely disgusting and it's incumbent upon the Vice President to marshal a coalition big enough to beat the group of people in the country that like this sort of nonsense. Yeah, and I mean, I do want to ask about Trump's promise of a mass deportation program. He keeps talking about it. I mean, if he's talking about deporting people who are legally in the country, does that mean he's going to try to deport legal immigrants if he gets elected? I mean, where's the line? I mean, that sounds completely un-American. Well, when you ask these people from Project 2025, when they've done interviews, you say, OK, you're going to deport the people. How are you going to do that? You and I are old enough to remember Ellie and Gonzalez, who was taken out of his home with a SWAT team, put into a deportation center and sent the cube up. And so I guess we have to see that on the air 11 million times or Trump saying it's 15 million people. You'll have to put them in camp somewhere, Jim. So, and again, we don't know where the line is. We don't know if it's everybody. It's to Trump designates that maybe is black or brown or some kind of dissent that he doesn't like. We're not sure where it is, and they won't answer the question. No, and I do want to ask you about Laura Loomer, as much as I hate to give her any kind of publicity whatsoever. And she is with him on the campaign plane. She's going to places like New York for 9/11 commemorations and so on. What do you make of Trump? It sounds like he's trying to distance himself, but at the same time, he's defending her. I mean, you've been out on the campaign trail with him. He seems to attract these types of folks. I mean, it's sort of like, you know, hanging up flypaper. Well, what happens with him? He has a group of moderates. They get sick of them. They leave the campaign, and then he keeps moving to the alt-right. She's a perfect alt-right person. A lot of the stuff she puts out on Twitter, he starts to use when he's not doing well. You know, he had a terrible debate this past Tuesday. He moves towards the Laura Loomers in the campaign. When the vice president was named the presumptive nominee and he couldn't find his footing, he goes to the Laura Loomers. The whole, she just turned black comment, is a Laura Loomer special. So he's got a lot of Laura Loomer and his personality. So people have to recognize that they're boating for that sort of ideology. Yeah, I mean, I think I read that Laura Loomer is what? 31 years old, something like that. Control Room fact check me on that if I'm off a little bit. And I mean, if you go back to when Trump was peddling the birther conspiracy, what was that 2011, that would make, how was she at the time? So, I mean, this idea that has been floating around the, oh, you know, Laura Loomers on the plane, she's traveling with them, she must be influencing him. Why don't they just knock it off? I mean, isn't he the one who probably influenced her? Isn't he kind of, I mean, sort of putting the cart before the horse here? Yeah, it's a little bit of both. But I mean, if you just follow her Twitter screens, you can see that this is something that's emanating from her. And he likes it and he thinks the same way. But just so you know, Jim, if you ever call me younger than I actually am, like, well, my 30s, I don't want the control room to fact check these. I just, yeah, letting my friends know in the control room, I don't, I don't want any fact checking on that. You don't look a day over 40, Anthony. But I mean, Senator, Tom Tillis wrote on X, yeah, I will. He says, Tom Tillis wrote on X Senator from North Carolina, Loomer is a crazy conspiracy theorist, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been going after Laura Loomer too. I mean, I sort of feel like we're doing the service even talking about her. I mean, she is nuts. But at the same time, I mean, here we are, we're less than 60 days until a presidential election. And in the Republican nominee is right around the country with somebody who thinks that 9/11 was an inside job and just crap and garbage. Listen, you know, Tom Tillis is a great guy and he's supporting Donald Trump. And I don't understand why. I guess he has to say, say that for personal appearances, or maybe his political consultants are telling that. But I would, I would really strongly suggest to my fellow Republicans and, and people that are elected, you got to stand up to this. You've got to speak out against this. Where is Shady Vance and all this? I find it reprehensible that he doesn't have the stomach to speak up. Uh, about this. Uh, and I, and I disagree with you on this. If you don't mind me saying so, she has to be spoken about because she represents him and, and that is who he is. And so, uh, you know, more, let's get more of Laura Loomer, frankly, in the campaign so that we can really turn off the people that we need to make sure that Trumpism dies. Uh, Jim. All right. Anthony Scaramucci. Thanks. As always, great to talk to you. Uh, uh, keep blowing the age every time you come on. Just so keep, keep coming back. I, I, I appreciate it. I have a good dermatologist, Jim. I appreciate it. Don't we all, it does help. Thanks, Anthony. Good to see you. All right. Here and talk about the, the week that was on this campaign trail, Annie Linsky, reporter for the Wall Street Journal, Chuck Rocha, a Democratic strategist and Aaron Perini, Republican strategist and former communications director for the 2020 Trump campaign. Uh, I mean, Annie, let me start with you first. I mean, what Anthony was saying, a few moments ago, it's sort of reminds me of like, you know, this conversation that we have in press circles and sometimes we talk about it on the air, you know, what to cover about Trump, how to cover it. Do we cover people like Laura Loomer? Anthony is saying you should cover people like Laura Loomer because they do have an impact on Trump. But getting back to the conversation we were having earlier, I mean, you know, he is somebody who probably influenced her first. I mean, I mean, you know, well, yeah, I think your sort of age comparison is, is spot up. Yeah. But I think, you know, imagine her in the fourth grade or whatever it was, you know, coming up with these conspiracy theories. But, you know, I think, you know, I think about this week, you know, obviously the debate was the main event. And most people coming out of the debate, including, as you know, many of Trump's advisors quietly said that he lost the debate. But we are still talking about Donald Trump and what he said and his comments about eating dogs and geese and Springfield. And so, you know, to me, I just have, you know, in this moment, at least a little bit of kind of 2016 rehash going on because he continues to drive the conversation about the topics that he wants to talk about coming out of a debate that he allegedly lost. I mean, nobody's talking about Kamala Harris or what her, you know, what did she lay out? What points did she make? So I do think there is something to your hesitancy on Laura Louvre because it does keep the conversation in a place where he clearly wants it to be. Yeah, and Chuck, I mean, he's obviously still smarting from the debate. Apparently, just a few moments ago, he's got a brand new conspiracy theory that ABC was giving the questions to Kamala Harris. I mean, it's just, it's amazing. Let's watch if we have to maybe show it. Yeah. She can't talk without maybe getting the answers. What's the story with that? Did she get the questions? You think? So I hear she got the questions. I hear she got the questions, which is not not true. Speaking of young men who need some help. Yeah. Why you're out there. And look, I've done a lot of debate prep. I've worked with candidates all over the country like this is what he does. This is his MO and he's trying to get attention. That is part of the strategy. And you're spot on about that. He loves the spotlight. And he's got to talk about eating squirrels next to get in the spotlight. That's what he's going to do. Or right on a plane that smells like Big Max and Chicken McNuggets with Loomer. That's what he's going to do. But the fact is he had a bad night. But the other fact is, is that folks now are making their decisions about voting. And they're going to start getting ballots in many states in just a couple weeks. And people now have gotten to the lowest common denominator if not even really needing to see the back end of a policy book. But they're just looking for an adult. This is helping Kamala Harris. He can have all the spotlight that he wants. And he's talking about crazy stuff with Loomer. If she can continue to just do the blocking and tackling, that's how you win. Yeah. And Aaron, I mean, I'm sure you've heard this from Republicans, graduates in recent days. I've heard it, which is any day that Trump is not focusing on issues is just a bad day as a lost day. And he's running out of time. And here, you know, he's talking about people eating dogs and cats and stealing the geese in the park. And now he's got a new one about the questions were given in advance. I mean, doesn't sound like this is heading in his direction. The national narrative is certainly one that Trump is keeping right now off of the main topics, which should be the economy, inflation, grocery prices, home prices, gas prices, everything in between. Because that's the one thing that I really wish that like Donald Trump in the campaign would keep in the forefront of their mind, which is the issues they are strong is on right now are the ones the American people see every day. You go to the grocery store once or twice a week, and you are faced with the fact that man milk seems more expensive today than it did last week. You drive past a gas station every day in your life in the United States. You see the price of gas. They live these realities every day. If Donald Trump stood there and said, you want to know why every day of your life, you will see those gas prices. And that is because of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, you see your grocery prices when you go in to pick up a loaf of bread because it's the middle of the week and you got your pay check and you got to make sure your family can eat. And it's more expensive now. Touch the heart of the American people and let go of an I keep saying over and over every time I'm on here. But here we are. You've been inside the campaign. Does he have advisors who will say that? He does. And they will say that to him and then he'll just go out and do this other stuff anyway. Jim, you and I both know that Susie Wiles and Chris Lasavita are two professionals in this industry. There are few people who understand the state of Florida better than Susie Wiles. Chris Lasavita has a has a long history in Republican politics going back to Switzerland. They're brought in for you Louie. Lewandowski who thinks let Trump be Trump. So there are people. There's a lot of apparatus who have long professional careers. And as much as people want to think it's a dirty thing, politics is an industry. This is a profession and a business. I am a political professional. This is what I do for a living. The people that are at the top of that campaign are of that same stature who they're far above my stature because they've had bigger races than I've had. And I've been on presidential but they will do their best and they will try to guide him. But at the end of the day, Donald Trump will do what Donald Trump wants to do. It's not let Trump be Trump. It's do as much as you can. Aaron Aaron is a Republican. I'm a Democrat. I disagree with what she has to say. But what she's saying is how you're supposed to run a campaign. We are professionals. We there's a way to take on Kamalais. There's a way to take on Donald Trump. Sure. You're watching one side figuring out how to do it while the other side is not. If I'm going to run a race. We know how to do it. Absolutely. And it's not that harder. They would be paying me to do it. Listen to how I even talk. Yeah. You know, but any idea. And I do want to talk about this very serious. I mean, issue this past week and we're going to talk to the Haitian community in Springfield a few moments. But Trump promising this this mass deportation program. And then promising to deport the people who are in Springfield, Ohio, who are there legally. Keep saying that they're there legally. Yes, absolutely. I mean, I mean, this is one piece of Trump's rhetoric that when you talk to Republicans on the Hill, they are very uncomfortable with. And they are careful about how they talk about it. They say, well, it's not clear how this would actually work. This is how to clear how logistically it would work. But there's a deep discomfort with that. And that is because there are many reasons. But one, this country has done this in the past. This is not something that is foreign to our history. And that the Wall Street Journal, we actually tracked down one of the kind of few survivors of the last mass deportation. A man who when it varies a small child was in Eisenhower. Yes, in Eisenhower. Yeah, yeah, he was his family was sent from California to Mexico. He didn't speak a word of English. And it was just a traumatic part of his history. And you know, he is one of the few survivors. So I'd encourage people to read the story. It's it was a very moving piece in the journal. And it but reading the story, it's just one one example of what one human being went through and how you know, many years later, decades later, it still impacts his life. So the idea that this country is on the verge of that. I mean, what I will say is that Republicans on the Hill have found ways in which they do not like this and would put up locks. We've talked about this, Jim, the immigration system is broken. There's a lot of blame to go around. We need to fix it once and for all. I've got two business partners who are both immigrants. They both have legal status. And one of them getting sworn in as a citizen on Tuesday here in Washington, DC, and of course, through a long process. And words matter because when you start grouping all immigrants together and folks from all over, it's it's a hard thing and words matter. You're going to end up what you're seeing in Springfield. That's a shame. Yeah, it creates a lot of fear in communities like Springfield Ohio. We're going to talk about that in a few moments standby everybody. So what do people in Springfield, Ohio think about all those two Haitian members of that community? Are my guests next? Stay tuned. Schools were evacuated for the second day in a row in Springfield, Ohio, the town caught in a spotlight. They don't want after false claims of immigrants eating pets made their way through the internet to Donald Trump at the presidential debate. Springfield native john legend speaking out today about the Haitian immigrant population that's come to the town since 2020. So there are plenty of reasons why this might be a challenge for my hometown. But the bottom line is these people came to Springfield because there were jobs for them and they were willing to work. And they wanted to live the American dream. Nobody's eating cats. Nobody's eating dogs. We all just want to live and flourish and raise our families in a healthy and safe environment. How about we love one another? So how were folks doing in Springfield, Ohio, let's bring in some current residents of Springfield. Villas Dorsonville is the executive director of the Haitian Community Help and Support Center in Rose the Mar Joseph is the operation manager of the Haitian Community Help and Support Center. Thank you both so much Villas and Rose the Mar for for being with us. We appreciate it so much. And I just want to know how your your community is doing. Can you tell us how the community is doing? How how people are feeling? Are they scared? Are they worried with all of these lies that are flying around about what is happening inside your community? Yeah, I can say that it is a so unfortunate situation. It creates a lot of fear and confusion amongst the Haitian community here in Springfield. They also on decisive not knowing if they should stay in the city or go somewhere else. They keep calling our office asking asking us if that is not going to escalate to violence. So we work with them trying to lower the tension, but people still in confusion. And people are saying they're worried about violence. Is that is that correct? Yes, it is correct. Because they do not know what might happen to them. And they were already warned out when they came to Springfield, fleeing all that happened to Haiti. So to get themselves into a situation like this, just makes it worse. And Rosa Mar, do you have any idea where this thing came from that people were eating pets and dogs and cats when you heard this for the first time? What was your reaction? We don't have any idea where those rumors come from. And when I heard that I was shot and frustrated. Because nobody cats a bug. And so I don't know. It is a lot for us in Springfield. It is a lot for the nation community here. I feel terrible even asking about it. But you know, Trump is also saying that the immigrants in Springfield, the Haitian immigrants there are there illegally. But that is not the case. If you could say something to Donald Trump, what would you say? I would say that he has to control the rhetoric and the narrative that he puts out there. Because all that he says can harm a community, can harm some people. He has to pay attention to the mental health of people and people who were already once out of life, trying to fight up a safe place to raise the family and to fight a job. And I think that he has to know that words matter. So what he says can just cause a community to turn into chaos, psychologically speaking, because people sometimes don't believe that especially a leader is seeking the highest of his of the United States should understand that they have to be able to pay attention to people's mental health. And Rose, what would you say to Donald Trump? The same thing. And just to add that each show and he had to any show before splitting the news, maybe fact check the information before. But I don't know why he did it. And instead he just spread the news. And it is, it caused a lot of fears right now in the community, because our Asian people of fears, they are planning to live one year. And even today I went to a tour in Springfield from Asian business to Asian business and spoke to some people in the community. I can feel the fears of the people of the community. And even one of them even cried because he said that it just came to Springfield. And all those happened. So he cried. They're crying. Yes. Yeah. Well, from what we understand, Springfield, Ohio is a very nice community. And the Haitian people who have moved there have made it even better. That's what we've been hearing from the folks there on the ground. And I'm sure you're a big part of that. Vlas and Rose Tamar. Thank you very much for your time. We appreciate it. Hope things get better there real soon. Thank you so much. All right, just ahead, a high profile case over a death row inmate, his claims of innocence, and mishandled evidence now pushed to vacate. His conviction has been denied with just 11 days until his execution. The prosecutor trying to stop his death is my guests coming up next. Tonight, an update to a story we brought you a few weeks ago about a death row inmate set to be executed in 11 days who says he is innocent. Now the legal battle for Missouri inmate Marcellus Williams is getting a lot more complicated. St. Louis County judge has denied the request to vacate his conviction to bring up the speed on this. Williams was convicted of the murder of Felicia Gail in 1998 and was sentenced to death. He has long maintained his innocence back in January. St. Louis County prosecutor Wesley Bell filed a request to have Williams's conviction overturned after testing found his DNA was not on the murder weapon. The DNA argument broke down when new testing showed the weapon had been mishandled and contaminated. Bell then announced an agreement with Williams to get him off death row and resend to life in prison. But it was blocked by the state's Republican Attorney General Andrew Bailey who was seeking reelection. Bailey appealed to the state Supreme Court which ordered a judge to hold an evidentiary hearing and issue a ruling. And on Thursday, that judge wrote this. There is no basis for a court to find that Williams is innocent and no court has made such a filing mark. So this is Williams. Execution is set for September 24th and St. Louis County prosecutor Wesley Bell joins us now we should mention he's also running for Congress. And Mr. Bell, I let's just start off by asking this man's execution is just days away. This is a major setback. What is your reaction to this judge is ruling? Is there any hope left in this case? Disappointment, obviously, we take took an oath to bring justice, not just convictions. We created a conviction integrity unit because we recognize that there are times when we recommend folks that they have to go to jail and we want to make sure that they're safeguards in place to make sure we get it right. This case was obviously before me, but that doesn't change that oath. And so it's important for us to to do just that, bring justice, get it right. And that's why we took this to file this motion. Yeah. And the judge says that the officer who mishandled the murder weapon without gloves did so not in bad faith. You argue that it was in bad faith. Tell us about that. The the point of the matter of this matter is that there are questions with respect to the integrity of the conviction. And we're talking about a punishment that we can't undo. There was an agreement on the table to give Mr. Williams life in prison without the possibility of the of parole. The family supported this outcome. It would have given closure to this matter. But again, they as well as our region has to relive this over and over again. And we have serious questions about the integrity of the of the conviction. And as a result, we should not be executing it. Well, and just for folks who didn't see this story pop up before tonight. I mean, is it your view that the state could be facing a situation where an innocent man may be put to death? You know, I don't want to get ahead of the process. We endeavor to investigate this matter thoroughly. And I got to give credit to not only folks in my office in our conviction incident review unit, but also lay through a firm that assisted us with with this matter to do everything that we could to get to the bottom of this, but also highlight the questions that we had with the original conviction. And so again, it's disappointing because again, our oath is to bring justice. And and this sounds like you have doubts. We and we have doubts. And we'd like the opportunity to investigate those. But in the meantime, let's not execute. Let's not do something that we can't undo in the event that there is evidence that of actual innocence. And what are the next steps are you in communication with the governor? What happens next? So we're evaluating those the the statute that authorized us to be able to bring this motion is fairly new. And so in some respects, we're in uncharted waters, if you will. And so we're evaluating all of our options, if any. But our goal is to to spare Mr. Williams life because of the questions that we have with this with this conviction. And we should mention you're running for Congress, Andrew Bailey is running for reelection as Attorney General Bailey has said the effort to get Williams off of death row as a false narrative meant to fulfill political ends. What's your response to that? So the the questions with respect to the murder weapon, the questions with respect to the witnesses and the reliability of the witnesses at the time. That's that alone. Justifies not executing this individual life in prison without the possibility of parole gives closure. It also gives Williams and his defense an opportunity to continue to look at evidence of actual innocence. But if there are questions, if there is a at least even a shadow of a doubt with respect to someone's innocent, it is not in the interest of justice to execute that individual. As you were saying, you can't undo it. If it happens, and you find out later, we hear some evidence that may have proven his innocence. All right, Wesley Bell, thank you very much for your time. Thanks for the update on the case, appreciate it. All right, just ahead, a few big name athletes like Steph Curry jump into the political fray while most stay on the sidelines. Why are some willing to risk a bruising by giving an endorsement? And others aren't, we'll discuss all that in just a moment. Stay with us. On set with from HGTV and Max takes you behind the scenes of the most iconic on screen worlds with the people who made them real and the production design director, photography, costume designer, decorator, find out how these spaces that live rent free in our minds came to be and provide the perfect backdrop for our favorite TV shows like friends, true detective, and more. Listen to on set with on Max or wherever you get your podcasts. Tonight, this question are athletes staying off the political field this election year after Taylor Swift backed Vice President Kamala Harris WNBA superstar Caitlyn Clark liked her Instagram post. Clark got some blowback from conservatives online for that, but she then clarified saying she's not endorsing anyone. I think for myself is, you know, I have this amazing platform. So I think the biggest thing would be just encourage people to register to vote. Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes also not picking aside, he had to address reporters after Trump suggested his wife Brittany was a fan of his. I don't want my place and my platform to be used to endorse a candidate or do whatever each either way. I think my place is doing foreign people to get registered to vote instead of inform people to do their own research. But some other big names have decided to get political. The NBA Steph Curry, for example, backed Harris at the DNC and he just recently explained why. So anytime you step into this lane, you know, it's going to be received, you know, in a lot of different ways. And for me, it's all about creating conversations that are about being decent human beings. First and foremost, I think we've lost that a little bit to where obviously endorsing common is important for me for my family. Sports columnist Nancy armor putting it this way today elite athletes, she says are born with unique physical gifts and singular dedication. Moral courage is something they have to find for themselves. And this week was a reminder that not many do. Let's talk about this with sports historian Lewis Moore. He's a co host of the black athlete podcast and the author of the Blake, a great black hope. Lewis, great to see you. Thanks for doing this. We appreciate it. Tell if you can't give us a little bit of the history here to about athletes coming off of the field and showing some moral and political courage and expressing their beliefs. I mean, I, you know, I remember the stories of Muhammad Ali and so on. This is not that unusual thing. Yeah, I think some of the great athletes that we've had have always understood that they have the power in the platform to do things. So like Ali Jackie Robinson was always writing columns and getting people to talk about fairness and equality and getting people to register to vote. Joe Lewis to Muhammad Ali, all these people talking about register to vote. Some people like Arthur Ashe. So there is a history for athletes today to follow and I just hope that they follow them. And that was my question. What would you like to see athletes do? Do we need to hear from folks like LeBron James? Do I mean, do you think we need to see more of that? I mean, there is kind of an expectation that athletes have a voice these days. They should voice their opinion. A lot of this happens on social media. What do you think? Yeah, I think that athletes understand they have a powerful platform and someone like LeBron has certainly used it, right? He's been for Obama, Clayton, Biden. He's helped create this program called more than a vote to get folks to register and also open up polling places. But I also think that athletes are understanding that today is pretty toxic. And so I think when you played that clip of Patrick Mahomes, I think when you see that you see that how complicated things are families, relationships, teammates. And so he's a little bit reluctant to say who he's for. But I still think that he was right and telling people, you know, no matter what I say, you need to do your homework, you need to vote. Yeah, when we played that clip of Caitlin Clark, I just thought my goodness, in this rookie season for Caitlin Clark, there's been so much controversy swirling around her in Instagram like, is kicking up a lot of controversy and stirring things up. So I suppose athletes feel like they have to be careful these days. Is it because the sports organizations put this pressure on them? Is it because they don't want it? They just don't want to get thrown in into the middle of a huge hornet snest. Yeah, I think you know, with the Clark situation, she's young and she's the most popular athlete in America. And I think she wasn't ready for the blowback on that. And then she followed that up with a very great response. But a lot of athletes also worry about the profits, right? They have contracts and they're worried that if they go for somebody else, it's the famous Michael Jordan saying, you know, Republicans buy sneakers too. I think there are more, some of them are more concerned about their brand than they are about the politics right now. Yeah, athletes do care about their legacies on the field. What about what about the actions off the field? And do you think activism is something that today's superstars are lacking in? We just not seeing enough of it? It's hard to say because, you know, if we think about it, like historically, we can only we only really name a few a handful. And those are the very brave. Those are the Ali's, the Wilmore Rudolphs, the Bill Russell's, the John Carlos Tommy Smith. And it's today's generation. You have people like Kaepernick, you have kind of like LeBron. And and the reason why they're so limited is because it's so dangerous, right? There is a huge pushback when you do that of society, from teams, from organizations. So I think that the ones we remember, we remember them because they're so great. And because they did that. And you mentioned Colin Kaepernick, which is such it's a great example because I suppose there are some athletes, some sports organizations that say, Okay, well, we don't want to get into a situation like that. But Colin Kaepernick was right. He was ahead of his time. To me, that that that's a story that I think just will always feel like that something really unfair was was totally unfair was done to him. Oh, certainly he was right. And he'll always be remembered right, right? Like, so nobody's gonna remember his stats. But they'll remember what he did. And he was in conversation just this week when Tyree Hill of the Miami Dolphins was pointed over by the police. And now once again, we're having a conversation about police brutality, the same conversation that we had in 2016 when Kaepernick was kneeling. Absolutely. And you're absolutely right about Tyree Hill. And the question has been asked, if it wasn't Tyree Hill, what would have happened in that kind of a situation? Obviously, we've seen those kinds of things play out over and over again in really, really bad ways. Lewis, we're a great conversation. Wish we had more time to talk about it. But thanks for coming on and discussing its very important subject. Thanks a lot. Yeah, thank you for having me. All right, appreciate it. All right. Just ahead from the debate to Trump's embrace of an far right 9/11 conspiracy theorist, it was a wild week in politics. Did you catch everything that happened? Stick around to take our quiz, we have a quiz coming up, that's right. But first, this week's CNN hero in Arizona, thousands of children are in the foster care system. Many of them are Native American and struggling to connect with the roots and heritage of their people. One foster mom is trying to change that. When I tell people I was abundantly blessed within six months, I became a mom to four children that were all under the age of two years old. That's where I kind of knew we needed to make a change. I started out just providing basic resources, clothes and shoes and diapers. I really wanted to create family engagement, cultural experience. When we can incorporate our culture and have that sense of identity, your world changes. I had non Native foster parents and grandparents raising children, even some group homes say, how do I get my kids connected to culture? I don't know where to go. There's thousands of Native children that are in care and could be connected. I want kids to come and actually feel like there are sense of identity and cultures right there. To see her work and action, go to cnnheroes.com right now. It's Friday night and after the week we just had, we want to look back and see if the panel was paying attention. We're bringing them back. I want to ask all of you questions about the moments that have happened over the last several days. You get three options, A, B and C, not C, A and T. But anyway, welcome to the Friday night quiz. Here we go, guys. Alright, first question, which states Republican Party put up Bill by Billboard saying eat less kittens should be eat fewer kittens. But the billboard actually said eat less kittens. But wait, A, B and C. Is it Arizona, B, Ohio, C, Florida, you tell them to fill in host. Arizona, B, Ohio, C, Florida. I'm gonna just go with you're gonna go with B, B and B. See, I would have guessed. Oh, seems very Florida-esque, but no, it's actually a Arizona. Oh, there you go. There's the billboard right there. Eat less kittens. I thought they'll play the Chick-fil-A there. That's in the groom room, we're obviously wrong. Yeah, you are not going to go back to ABC and talk. They got the answers. Okay. Which artist sued Trump this week for the use of their song? Is it A, Taylor Swift, B, the White Stripes or C, Elton John? I knew the answer to this. You know the answer. I did know this one. Well, I have the answers in front of you. But I did know it before you. I'm going with B. I'm gonna say a C. B, the White Stripes, Jack White, not happy about that. We're gonna vote to the Salvation Army. Was that the song? That's a great amp of song ahead of them. What state are they from? White Stripes? Yep. California? I think so. Oh, I win double trivia. Very good. How many VMA's did Taylor Swift win this week? Well, I know this one, A7, B9 or C5. For my wife, who's a Swiftie. I knew this one right away. You guys are right. Okay. I was so excited. I knew something about Taylor Swift. All right. So Alexandria Acasio-Cortez is currently in a back and forth online in a feud with who? Is it A, Marjorie Taylor Greene, BJD Vance or C, Jill Stein? I got to get this one right because she's my client. Oh yeah. That's right. C Jill Stein. Very good, Annie. Well, well done. Get all the text messages. Yes, exactly. That's right. Next one. During the debate over what issue did Trump say? Well, I didn't discuss it with JD. Well, I didn't discuss it with JD. Is it A, pet eating lies, B tariffs on China or C, federal abortion ban veto? Oh yeah, maybe no. Yes. Yeah. See, you guys are paying attention. All right. So you watch the debate. Congratulations. What's a lot of CNN over here at my house? Six, which campaign merch was President Biden seem wearing this week? Is it A, a Trump 2024 hat? B, a Trump 2024 shirt or C, a make America grade again hat? Wait, A and C the same? It's kind of a trick question. We're trying to trick trick you here. Oh, which one is it? Oh, it's going to be this one. It's gonna be May. It is a correct. Very good. Well done. There's biting. But it's not the magic hat. It's not the magic hat. It's a Trump hat. It's the Chinese. That was a trick question. Yeah, that was very nice to the president. You can always tell if it's a real Trump merch hat because they're actually very specific about making sure everything's made in America, including the number seven. The Harris Trump debate handshake was the first one since which match up a Obama Romney 2012 B Biden Ryan 2012 or C Clinton Trump 2016. Aaron, you definitely looked at the answers. All right. I'm just this guy. Clinton Trump 2016 very good. All right. Who said this week's voters must choose between the lesser of two evils? Was it a Pope Francis, B Jesse Ventura, or C Joe Rogan? And I tell you, I went to the Basilica in Mexico City this week. I know very good. It's A it was a boom. Look at me out of the country. It's holding it. Are we to the end or no? We have. We're at the end. Great. But is this a diaphragm? Here it is. I'm resting competition. You did well. You came very close, Annie. I'm sorry. The music one was hard. I mean, I'm not. Yeah, you're not going to make it to double jeopardy. I probably not. Moving on to next week's competition for $100,000. There should be a tiebreaker here. But there should be next week. And we're out of time. It's gonna be a tired question because I know who did that. Oh, the Jeff, Jeff Gluely was the one that's right. You're welcome, everyone. There you go. We'll give it to Aaron. All right. Thanks, everybody. Don't forget to tune in to CNN's Speaking of Quiz shows. 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