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Interview Highlights - Joe Queally

is a regular contributor to SBCR and spoke about a recent article that he had published in the Clare Champion chronicling the success of the Clare Senior Hurlers in 2024.. Hosted by Pat O’Brien with Jim Collins. Saturday Chronicle 31st August 2024 as recorded live from the Cultural Centre in Kilkishen https://www.facebook.com/kilkishenculturalcentre1/ Saturday Chronicle is Sponsored by JAMES M NASH AND DERG KITCHEN DESIGN http://dergkitchendesign.ie Outside broadcast in association with Michael Long Construction. Message or what’s app the studio on 089 2582647 or email sbcrstudio@gmail.com

Duration:: 24m
Broadcast on:: 14 Sep 2024
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And now we have Joe clearly, Joe is a well-known historian and a great campaigner from the Arganilay. Joe, you're looking welcome to scan a big news and idea again. Thanks very much, it's great to be down in East Clare, I love coming down. And you've had a nice bit of good weather with you as well. Yes, I always bring something. Well, please, pass it to us. Joe, recently across Clare had a great day in Caperes on the 24th of July. And you are a lovely article on the Clare Champion, all about it. And it's just marvelous to see. And we had looked at it over and scattered from, we said, "We must get Joe in to do a smart bit of reading and a smart bit of discussion on that story." And before we start, I just want to give a shout-out to Johnny and Brady Lochnand, and we are a yell-out from Lincoln. And if you're heading, of course, in Tola, Paddy Hines, in Crockville, in Caron, Mary Carr, my old friend who was a hundred in two months' time in Shohin, Dyserte, and Kitty Shidi in the daycare center, in an assignment, and remembered the sort of the art. Now, yeah, the Arganilay was fantastic. It was a day to remember forever, but I was at the back of the day. And I was at the back of the queue's extent. And I'd always be on the lookout for, "Oh, should people like us as characters?" And, you know, people from the side, you know. And I had my grandson at the back of the queue's extent when the game was over, and, of course, everybody wasn't a hire. But I saw this person coming towards me, and I said, "God, I must stop him up." Yeah, if I can. If I can. Because he had the true spirit of a clear man. Yeah. He peed cap on, and I saw this girl, this girl, around his, down over his two shoulders, cleared. Yeah, yeah. That's what made him as a clear man. No, he could be from any country. Yeah, yeah. The fact that he had the clear scarf on. And as he came towards me anyway, he wasn't walking. He was thriving. You know, this country's thriving. He had a message bag grip tight in his hand. And he wore a gunsie off of the court, and he had another Gabrodin court, just in case of his shower in the pocket. And as he came towards me, I had my grandson with me because we were waiting for his father. He picked him up. That's where the seats allocated, you know. "God save you," I said to him. "And you too," he said to me. Yeah, he stopped, you know. And I said to him, "Well, what did you think of that?" He says, "I don't know, there's a great bit of a buyer." He said, "That court attribute, you know, that was a country saying, that would be someone that had been great at court and tough." Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can hear. I'm making a wreak. Yeah, yeah. He's a great bit of a buyer. Yeah. He said to me. You know. And that was kind of lovely. And then I said to him, "Did you drive up?" "I know." He says, "I came up, he said in the bus." Yeah. "Of course," he said. I said, "Sure I suppose you might drive up for a bit." I said, "Tie it on the way home." "Ah, ah, no." He says, "I don't like." He says, "Gone in." He says, "The Demetan houses." I prefer. He said a bit that I'd call myself faces. Yeah, yeah. At all staff, he said, "Wouldn't agree with you." Yeah. But didn't he take out the flask? A tear. No, the flask was spotlessly clean. Spotlessly clean. And he took it out and it was as black as the air suspense. Because it was over the fire plus the open fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But didn't he take out? Anyway, he had these two quits of homemade bread wrapped around brown paper and sides. Yeah. And he took it out and there was three slices of home cured hairy bacon inside between the two quits of bread. Yeah, yeah. And he ate that. But I think what I did then was I could see him. I don't know his name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the next thing he was gone. Mm-hmm. And as he looked after him, as I looked after him, the memory came into my head or the vision came into my head as to where he had come from. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't sure whether it was not Southeast or West there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was a care man. And the vision came into my head and I just had to write it down. Just I could see him getting up in the mardin. He was a bachelor. Mm-hmm. I could see him getting up in the mardin. And I could see him counting the cows. No, this was very important that the cattle were fed. Looked after him. And the dog and the cat were looked after, you know. And I could see him, you know, going out and he put his hand in the holy water fund. Yeah, yeah. And he's shaking the water. Lucked up the door, put out the dog and the cat. Lucked up the door. And he put the key under the flexed on around the corner. And then he went up in the Ferguson 35. Now it was clicking like a watch. You know. And the transport box was on. And he had the bale hair. And he had the five-gallon room tied with binder twine. That was for feeding the nuts to the calves. And he took off for the chapel. That's what he was doing with the bus. That was arranged. But anyway, when he hit the chapel, there was no one there. But they came and they were off. So the next thing he went, this was my vision. Yeah, yeah. This was my vision of this man. Yeah, yeah. It was about 75, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And the next thing he, he took back. No, he had to be very careful because Dublin is a big place to a country man. You know, a very big place. So the instructions were that they would be leaving in the bus. Bus would be leaving an hour and a half after the match. So when he got back to the bus, he started, of course, the game was the best that he had ever been at. It made it that more special because Clare had won one. Yeah, yeah. And he was afraid to shout. He was afraid. He shot his colors, but he was afraid to let the hat and the spirit go because we hadn't won one of the last minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And even beyond the last minutes. Yeah. And the next thing Clare had won it. And he could shout. Yeah. It was time to be safe. Yeah. So when he went back home, I saw him going back home. And I saw him going up, started in the middle. I saw him start in the middle. And the dog coming down to meet him. And you know how a dog welcomes you with bugs. Wagging the tail. And he's kind of wobbling his, you know, yeah. And he pulled in above. He pulled in above to his house. And the cat was above in the cell of the window. And you know how cats make them say speakers? When they're happy. Yeah. And the tail up in there. And he got the key. And the three of them went in the door. Yeah. Together. Into the house. Together. And he put down the fire. He put down the fire, timber, and turf. And he pulled over the crane. And he hung on the big metal kit over the fire. Yeah. Now the cats went up in the slogan chair and the dog laid down by the fire. And I said, there was good manners between them. The nodal place. Yeah. Yeah. The three of the nodal places. Yeah. But when the fire started, the fire started and the specs were going up the chimney. You know, out above. You could see them out above in the chimney. Yeah. And the colors. Like the flamethrowers. And the flamethrowers went up into the air. And the flames went up after the turf and the timber and the specs flew. And I said, and they had to kill there. Yet he had his own flamethrowers now. Yeah. And he had his own, you know. And what was beautiful about it, you know, they cut out some of it here. Well, see, they had ten by his benders. Well, because when the lights came on, the pigeons were outside in the high threes. Yeah. And when the lights came on and the heat came, they started to sing. They started to cool. The pigeons. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he had the whole art. But when the kittle was biled, when he went to tear. And he said, his prayers, before he went to bed. One old father, three Hail Marys, and a glory be. Yes. And he put his hand into the holy water front. And he shook the holy water. And put out the lights. And what I said there in the end of the story was, that, that three of them fell fast asleep. The dog by the fire. The cat and the so-gun chair. Getting to the great day to be a clear man. Yeah. Wasn't it a great clear day. No, that was the vision I had. Of that man, whether he came to Scariff. Or whether he came to, to, to, to, to, to Kill Key. Yeah. Or, or Duneha. Yeah. Or the Borden. Or wherever he came from. Yeah, yeah. And, and I wrote, I think Ireland's own were onto me to know who they, who they. It was the printers. Who they take. Yeah. I write it on the paper, and I said, yeah, we'll just get you in, whenever we'll just get you in. That was the creator in, in, in, in, in, and that was so beautiful to see that man. Man, you know, what clear days. And I said, it's just, it's just, you know, down the, you know, that's what, it did it for people around the world. Yeah. But what did it do for that man? People, yeah. And for older people. That, for older, 75. Mm-hmm. And, and the scarf around. And when he got, when he went into the house, I left out that, when he went into the house. He hung up the scarf in a wooden peg. Mm-hmm. Pop John, pop, pop John the 20-tord was one into the peg. And President Kennedy. It's a beautiful story. And I mean, based, of course, on reality as well. I mean, it is because you... It did happen, Jim, you know, but maybe not that day, but it could happen. I was just a couple of your words there that I haven't heard for a while. It's a cut of bread. Yes. Because, I mean, when I was growing up, we had not known a cut of bread. Yes, of course. And the other word then is wet the tea. Yeah, to wet the tea. I hadn't heard that now in a while, and it's lovely to hear. It brings back aspects of what, without growing up. It brings back the tradition. I remember Pat Trafford. Pat is from Donaacross. And he described a woman one time to me, you know, the old words, you know. And I said, "Pat about something." As Pat, he said, "You was a woman." He said, "It was Carepuck and herself." No, that would be Yublok. You know, some old creator, this might have the button tied upside down. I wouldn't have the hair comb, sort of the art people, great people. But Carepuck. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you work? So, I'm sure we are all times limited, so... You have a big day tomorrow in the bottom of Rambel, open North Clare, Joe. We have. It must be, you know, what I have lost track of my Rambel. Maybe this could be our 45th year in the Rambel. And to be honest about, I think, tomorrow's Rambel is one of the nicest I have done. It's in the famine road, tober. And you know, I hadn't walked it. And I walked, Oliver O'Connell walked it the other day. And honest to God, you know, you know, it is so beautiful. It is so historical. It does a sadness there as well, because the famine road creators, it goes from... It goes from Kinvara to Innes. That was the old road from Kinvara to Innes. But God loved the people in the famine times. They all went that road to go to the ship. Some of them didn't make it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're walking over tomorrow. We're sharing the road with those people that were buried there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's not to awaken them, because they're resting. It's to remember them. Yeah, yeah. It's to remember them as we pass. We're not walking down them. We're walking with them. We remember them. And that's so special for us to bring people out there tomorrow, because they can go next week. And you know, when they know where it is. And I suppose the fact that it's for the live boats. Yeah. You know, last year... Really important, isn't it? It's very important to save somebody's life. Last year, when we have a healing service there, where we live over in the rocks, and some people ask me, "How much did you make on the board and ramble?" Last year, when we were up in Desmarahan, up in... Yeah, I was there. It was there. It was there. And a week after the woman rang me, and I don't know where she was from. And she said, "Joel, my brother and his wife was with us the last day in playing over above and sitting down the wall or whatever." And she said, "He came down to Dunnohos for a bit of tears." And when he got his phone, she said, "We never saw anything at all. We never seen anything." The prayer to the tears came down his eyes. And he said, "Mary," he said to his sister, "I'm free. I'm free." Yes. Now, I said, "What price do you put on that?" To send somebody into a bed that can go to sleep. She was like, "No, no, I don't really want to know who or where, you know what?" I said, "Thank you for ringing me, but I'm free." So, I don't care what we make in the bottle ramble. If you have a few, Bob, bring it with you. If you haven't come out yourself, lean on someone's shoulder, let somebody lean on your shoulder to tell you the story. And because we do what we do, not me, you, Jim, you, Pat, this man here. Because we all do, I can't do it my own. You can't do it, but look at what we can do together. Yes. If we can save one life, one life, if we can free one person from retirement tomorrow, then it will be worthwhile. If you have money, it's all into the book, if you haven't come out. Nobody will know what you give, how you give, whatever. You're heading after 12, and it may be unpacking. I live near and unpacking. It's on the R460. Got to quite a thin road, quite a thin to got road. Near Luck Bunny. Near Luck Bunny. If you leave Luck Bunny on your right, that's the trick. And just keep going. And we are three minutes from Luck Bunny Lake. And the people, you know, they open their gates to us and open their feasts as an open their hearts to us. When I went up there, everybody, I got apple cake and I got everything from me. Yes, we'll open the gates and I'll have that gate opened. And we'll open this one. I'll have this shade open here. Yeah. People are very good. I was just thinking, just come back to the menu, Met and Croke Park. The two minutes after the final whistle, when you win in all Ireland, are very special. You know, suddenly you're literally on cloud nine. And I suppose I'm thinking as well, like my father, God, we go to him, lived a long life. But he never saw Claire winning in all Ireland. Yes. He was dead a few years before they won in '95. And I mean, and that maybe explains why it means so much to Claire people. Oh, yeah. To win in all Ireland that we could never take for granted. There's also counties as well who would love to be in our position. But the feeling and the feeling maybe of joy and of self-worth as a Claire person, and we can hold our head high in the country at large when you're in that position. Well, absolutely. And I think that what the win did was, sometimes when you're using a power horse to clean something, you know, that terrible strength that cleans everything, I think that win, you know, got into the hat and sword and spirits of people, and it blew all the car webs out of people to give them that good feeling of, I think, you know, known to God what negative energy it shifted in people. And we have had a great harvest since '95. We have, as a people. As you said, all people, my father never saw the winders. Are you all further along? That's the matches. You know, so what it has done, there's nothing in the world that can do. There's nothing in this world can do what Claire winning in Ireland can do. If the Pope and Putin and Ukraine and Biden and Trump came to be a damn scrape. So it's been clear to winning in Ireland. Joe, we have a shot this time. We'll just talk maybe about the lovely article on the champion that's weak about the Karlian barn, the tragic story of the Karlian barn. More than 200 years ago, I didn't handle it. It was more of the joke really because they're basically a target. And there's a lovely story about Karlian barn. Maybe you'll give us just a small bit of... The Karlian barn kind of intrigued me was five, two hundred and five years now nearly after. Why was the story? That's a long time ago. You know, and when I started to research the story, I suppose what came to me was the beautiful... the beautiful child of Chrome, of Brodie, Chrome, all-county limerick. And she reminded me of nature at its absolute best. You know, sometimes when you go out in the morning after the break of day and you see nature sleep, waking up. You see the beauty of the trees, you see the pure the rivers, the flowers, the fauna. You see that, and that was the Karlian barn. And I think what made her what she is that she was crowned with innocence. The innocence of a child is the most powerful. There are two strongest emotions in the world. One is love, and the other is innocence. And that creator of a little over a child that she was taken in by this person, that creator, that she taught, loved her, and then he treated her so cruelly. Only after six weeks. And got her killed. And got her killed. And I think the big thing was there's many Karlian barns. This room was found. You could go to every county in Ireland. You'll find the Karlian barn. And you'll find the Karlian barn that never got justice. Now the Karlian barn, Alien Hanley, I was where she was, the photograph and that, where the creator brought in. But what, you have to look at sometimes, not just the deed, but what did she suffer? What did that child, I was where she came in the other day. And she was covered with sea, the locals covered her with sea, when she came in. And what did the child suffer at the hands of two people? What did she suffer? That's the beauty of the Karlian barn, the beauty of the innocence of the soil of the river. That's the beauty that she was born into. That's the beauty that haunted her. She had a raw beauty of kindness, of love, and of innocence. And to be honest about it, you know, I know we're probably short of time now, but to be honest about it, you know, the people don't, don't for the years, to have operas, Pucelli, and Girard Riffen, the Collegians, they haven't done justice to the Karlian barn, because there is no happy ending to the Karlian barn. You know, the audience is happy all over the world in operas and all that. There is no happy ending to the Karlian barn. You know, it's sad because I have kids, I have grandchildren. Could you imagine your 15-year-old child does no happy ending to that? And we can't portray that. We have to tell the truth of what happened. Yes. You know, and that was the Karlian barn. That was, it's a sad, sad, sad story, but it was not a good people there as well. And Joe, was there a play, is there a play in the Karlian barn? Oh, there is, oh, there is, oh, there's the Lily of Calernaum, what's the Karlian barn? But he, it was very loosely, he set you some carry-on, you know, and the whole thing was special in the middle. Well, it was, but the hierarchy too, the rich people, the rich farmers, and all that kind of wanted a happy ending to it. And the British, because all these were British people, they wanted to dial it up. There was no dialing up in the Karlian barn, that child of innocence, of beauty, that child is the same as your ghost in the morning, and the beauty of the Jew on the ground. That's Ellen Handley, from Belly Kahand, the creator, that's the child that we must protect. Very tragic, really. It was very, very, very tragic, and sometimes, you know, go back and I suppose maybe just to stand in her grave, or sit down in her grave for a little while, and again, not to reawaken her, but just to remember her. Very, very true. She's buried in Baran. Do you know, no, do you know the ferry as you go to the ferry? Yes. You can walk up 300 yards, Jim, up from the ferry, and the graveyard is there on the left. And her little grave is there on the left. A lovely scenic magic place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this was a young wortman, recognized the rope that he had given. He did. The night of Glen was a magistrate, and didn't he get his portman? He had a yacht. But only by chance his yachtman was aware. And when he heard that the Colleen Barn was washed up in Money Point, didn't he ask some other guy to come with him, who was also a wortman, but he wasn't his regular. So when the little child creator was found under the local's founder, and they put seaweed over her little buddy, you know. And when he saw the rope, he said, "That's my rope." He knew and displaced. He had displaced. And everybody has a different way of splicing a rope. It seems. Yes. And he said, "That's Eileen Scanlon and Sullivan." He said, "That's rope. That's rope. That's my rope." And that's how they... That's how they... That's how they... That's how they... That's the only part of the evidence. But she had... That's the child. She had two... What really identified her as Eileen Hanley. Like the rope could be around anybody. Yes. So she had two teeth here. Her two eye teeth were kind of double here. And her maid, Ellen March, when she saw the body, she says, "I identified that body as Eileen Hanley. No." She had two teeth. Two... Two double eye teeth. And that was the thing in court. That's got the two legs. I know. Got to do this. Our time is off show and fashion. We'll have you back again sometime. I would probably look at it. I love coming back. And it's only pure joy to come back. I love coming back. Press it up tomorrow with... Yes. And thanks very much. And so much support. A big turn out. Yeah. We're appealing to people all around there and around there to support them. I'm going to lie. Yeah. So thanks to all for coming in. Thanks very much, everybody. Thank you.