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Chiefs walk-off FG to beat Bengals + Texans defense too much for Bears (Hour 1)

Hour 1: Mike Florio (@ProFootballTalk) and Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) discuss latest news in NFL including Chiefs last-second FG to defeat Bengals and Bears falling to Texans on SNF.

Duration:
45m
Broadcast on:
16 Sep 2024
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mp3

0:00   Paul Allen (KFAN) 97-yard Justin Jefferson TD radio call

4:14   Bengals vs. Chiefs recap

16:55   Ja’Marr Chase contract situation

25:10   Texans defeat Bears on SNF 

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Against the defending NFC champion. To fire off that ball helps have Justin Jefferson. We're going to be talking about that in many of us, but 97 yards. Yeah. Catch and run. Right. One of the surprises of the day week two Vikings upending the 49ers. Turning moment right there. The game that could have been worse. Right. Could have been worse. Yeah. The final score indicated the Vikings did have to kind of hold them off. We're going to again, we're going to talk about that one more and we're going to try to talk about all the games in some form or fashion. We kind of had the epiphany last week because we managed to do it inadvertently. We should try to find a way. Yeah, because in the past, we've left like two or three games out usually, but we're and I'll hear from the fans because I appreciate it. People tuning in. If your team won on Sunday, this is how I was when I was fan and only fan. I wanted to hear people on TV say nice things about my team when my team won. And when my team lost, I checked out. I didn't want to hear anything. So the people who are primarily with us on a Monday are the fans of the teams who won and they're upset if they invest two hours at their time and we never talk about their, I get that their team that managed to win. So that's what we will do today as we both fight through the after effects. We're not complaining about it. We have great jobs. We enjoy it, but there are some mornings when it's kind of hard to get up and there are some mornings when it's kind of hard to keep going. And there are some mornings where you just count the hours or minutes or seconds until you can just sleep again. And this feels like one of those days. You're on. You're on that kind of tired. Like, yeah, I'm tired. I get you. I guess what I hit a point at some point around like 62615 where, yes, I was exhausted, but like adrenaline and I finally kind of have woken up to where it can carry me through here. Well, you're drinking a coffee and the coffee. I mean, well, why not? I mean, I just too lazy. I'm too tired to go get a coffee. Yeah, you got to live five minutes away and bring my fancy Oh, beans that were like crushed in Italy. Yeah, and I would just have to find whatever I could find around here. And it's just not worth it. Okay, I hear you. Just fight through it. I'll fight through it. We're fighting through it. All right. And I'll be extra excited when we talk more about the Viking 49ers game, although it really was a stunner. And I prefer being right. I mean, we picked the 49ers. I do prefer I set my loyalties aside. I want to be right in our picks. Well, not, you know, I'm not going to say stunner. I picked the 49ers too, but I'm not going to say I was stunned by that. You pick the Vikings, the cover is the best bet. Well, I thought that the the coaches for the Minnesota Vikings, I think are one of the toughest challenges for Shanahan and the 49ers that we've seen. Again, I put O'Connell and Brian Flores up there against anybody in the sport as far as a tandem of OC DC, right? And they're capable of matching wits with a great offensive mind like Shanahan and being creative and doing different things on both sides of the ball. But yeah, that that moment right there that we showed was set up by Brian Flores, right? Fourth down, stop down by the goal line. And you went, Oh, okay. Hey, the Vikings look good too. Oh, whoa, the Vikings are up 10 zero and things look really good. And the 49ers are now going to have to like play a little frantic. And that was the moment there. And it got exciting from there on out. And as the thing you can watch through our football game, and there's just a small handful of moments that change everything. Exactly right. This fourth down stop and then boom, 14 point swing basically. Yeah, when you get a 14 point swing like that and it changes everything. All right. Nothing has changed in my mind when it comes to the Chiefs, Bengals rivalry. Yeah. Every time they play the Bengals are not afraid of them. No, the Bengals play them tough. It comes down to a fluke here, a call here, a drop here, you know, whatever, stake, whatever. Yeah, whatever. Exactly right. But the Bengals are always in position to beat them. Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't. Right. The Bengals start slowly every year. The Chiefs find a way to win. We talked about this last night on the thing we do after halftime. Like what surprised you about that game? Nothing. I mean, I learned nothing about that game because it's the same as it always is. And if the Bengals can otherwise take care of business now that they're 0 and 2 and they're 1 and 9 first two weeks during Joe Burrough's career, right, if they can turn it around. And sometimes they do. The years he stays healthy. Sometimes they don't. The years he gets injured. But if they can meet again in the postseason, that's when the Bengals are one of the few teams that could beat the Chiefs. Yeah, no question. Let alone you go like, how good could they have been if Jamar Chase and you know, T Higgins is out there and Jamar Chase had a full training camp without all the training camp drama and contract drama that's still going on and finally maybe done there to a degree. I do think there was positives. It's a pause. Taws. Right. I know. Yes, for the moment. But the the Bengals, there are positives, I think, in the football game. In a lot of ways, they're going to be, I think, sick a little bit today because they're going to go away. We kind of feel like we outplayed the Kansas City Chiefs and we let one slip away. And a changing moment, like we just talked about with Justin Jefferson, the 97 year touchdown. Hey, 22 17, bangles got the ball. You're going, man, the Chiefs offense has not been clicking or hitting on all cylinders here today. They're not exactly moving the ball up and down the field. The bangles were having a little more success as far as that's concerned. And they the play of the day, Tarshawn Wharton, right from the Kansas City Chiefs strips the ball of Joe Joe Burrow and Chamari Connor picks it up, runs her touchdown, changed the dynamic of the game right there. And you felt like, Oh, wow, Kansas City was against the ropes. And of course, then they were in the power position after that turnover. When they're on the ropes, you got to punch them through, especially the Kansas City Chiefs. Those rare occasions when you have a chance to deliver the knockout blow, you can't blow it. And we saw the Bengals do it when they were in the AFC championship game a couple of years ago. It felt like the Bengals had them on the ropes. Chris Jones went crazy in a good way. The Joseph, a sigh hit on Patrick Holmes. All of a sudden it went from then goes going to win this to Oh, we're going to overtime to shit. Harrison, the **** is going to go over the field goal. And the Chiefs going to win just like just like last night, Harrison, butker long field goal, but these 50 yard field goals are like we're basically at the point. And this is a very dated reference, but a few of you might get this, the old Disney movie, Gus, the donkey that could kick 80 yard field. We're getting closer and closer to the point where somebody's going to be able to kick a 70 yarder, like a 60 yarder. There was like, I remember when I was a kid, like, Oh my God, the guy who had the foot deformity kicked the 63 yard field goal. That's the record. How did that ever happen? How did Tom Dempsey ever make a 63 yarder? And now, and that was like a 40 yarder was a big deal. Now these are, they're automatic almost 50 plus. And you don't even get nervous about it anymore. Well, yeah. And especially when you got Harrison Butker, who was without question, one of the clutches kickers in the sport. I mean, what's he nervous about? Only 51. Yeah, what's and what's he nervous about week two match up against the bangles? He's going, I'm, I've hit game tying Super Bowl field goals, the longest field goal in Super Bowl history. So he's not going to feel that pressure. And I think to tell you the confidence they have in him, they didn't really even try to advance the ball once they got in field goal territory. They were kind of just like, Hey, 50 for bucker. That's fine. It might as well be 25. We're good with that. They did nothing there. So I think that shows you the confidence and to your point, how good some of these kickers are now. But it was an awesome football game. I think you hit on the right things. The bangles, I still think when all said and done are going to be one of the better teams in the AFC. And we know the chiefs are the ultimate get it done team. It's two weeks in a row where hey, their defenses let up some yards certainly, right? The offenses had moments of uh, the first week it was dropped passes and some of that that kind of went, eh, this week it was, they didn't really get too many drives and sustain any rhythm and get it going that way. My home stats aren't going to blow you away. But what we kind of saw throughout the league yesterday, a bunch of teams who might not have won the statistical battle, but they made the big plays at the big moments. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers would be another team that I would say like that. They're offensive stats. They beat Detroit Lions. They don't blow you away, but they made all the big plays and in those big plays, they scored touchdowns. It didn't get them down there to kick a field goal or whatever else. I think that was something that jumped out to me today, just a broad subject there, Mike. But either way, the chiefs defensively, uh, we don't make a lot of big plays in the past game yesterday, but the ones we do make strike for big plays in a touchdown and another win for them and their championship culture. It's almost Chris. Yeah, an anti-analytics approach. A little. I agree. There's only one analytic that matters. Yeah. Point scored versus points a lot. Right. It doesn't matter how you get there. And I think, I think there's a charm to this idea that this season through two weeks, it's like all the stuff that we were led to believe about football is being turned on its head. The running game is back and you do have teams that are being outplayed statistically. Yeah. They're just finding a way to score one more point. Exactly. That's all that matters. Patrick Mahomes, 151 passing yards, his lowest output ever in a game that he started and finished. The only game lower than that was that Thursday night in 2019. I think it was when he had the knee injury against the Broncos and he missed a game or two and then was back far sooner than we thought he would be 151 yards. That's like a quarter. He's had quarters like that. Yes. And it's at a minimum, a half of a game, not an entire game. And if you had shown me those stats yesterday, just that screen that you have on that, it's going to take the Bengals win. The Bengals win by 10. But that's where they're different than the years, even when Joe Burrow and company beat them in the AFC Championship game and even in the year where, hey, it went down to the wire. They've gotten better Kansas City as a complete football team. We know the defense is as good as it gets and not only schematically and number one ranked defensive football last year and causing turnovers. They're not number one right now after two weeks with Cincinnati and Baltimore the way they moved the ball. They're actually on the opposite end of the spectrum, but still playmaking ability. And where they're different compared to those years Cincinnati was had their number, they can run the ball. They can run the ball and that's a pain in the butt for their defensive side of the ball that you should just loo in a room on company. The great defensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals, they used to just call the bluff of the Chiefs. Oh, they can't run. And if they do run, who cares? We're going to have a three man rush and drop eight and do all these crazy coverages. Well, that's where the Chiefs have changed over the last two years. They have a short passing game and then they have the run game when you go, wait, we're going to take away the deep pass. They go, that's fine. We got other ways to beat you. Pacheco up the middle. All right. And then that short passing game to go along with it. But yeah, the ultimate find away football team right now in Kansas City. And yeah, in a lot of ways to me, it looked like they were outplayed, but made the big plays in the big moments, which they have a knack to do. Well, and Isaiah Pacheco is question mark going forward the reporting out of the locker room. Jeff Darlington, VSPN in both a walking boot and on crutches. And I reported half time of the game last night. The concern is the fibula. That's the calf bone, the thin bone, right, that comes together with the tibia. I had to be very careful. Tibia, fibula, fibia, tibula. I had the ULA to both of them. I know I think I've ever got them right. This is one of the products in seven years, seven years with the Rhodes scholar from the University of Texas, I had the card where I wrote fibula in big letters just to be sure I said fibula. Yes, I got you. But that's a concern. And we'll know more today. He was very emotional after the game. They got Carson Steele, who's technically listed as a fullback. Yep. And they got Samaje P. Ron. Right. And that's it. Yes. They got a guy on the practice bar, a couple of guys. He's on the NFI list. Right. Jerick McKinnon is out there. That's the most obvious. Hey, Jerick, are you in shape? Let's go. It's not like there's a bunch of guys floating around. No, it doesn't seem like. Especially guys who know the offense. Hey, I will say this isn't Jerick McKinnon or Sean McCoy at this point. I mean, who else is out there? I can't recall or think of anybody off the top of my head that we're missing there. But it's a little concerning. If a check goes down there, the changes their attitude, it gives them a physical nature and then, you know, a no nonsense attitude on the offenses side of the ball. That's important. And it's a big drop off between the other guys they got there. I think you couple that with, hey, Hollywood Brown hurt and done for the year, most likely, or I think officially, right? Yep. And then well, until January. Until January, right? And then you get into, I know Xavier Worthy had the big first game, right? But at the same time, I'm not ready to sit here and tell you that I think Xavier Worthy is ready to take over the NFL or become a big time number two on a consistent basis at wide receiver. You heard some comments out of Cincinnati this week, and this is what was kind of a knock on Xavier Worthy when he was coming out of college. He's just a straight liner. You know, if people get their hands on him, can he can he handle the contact there? So I worry about their offense a little bit in that capacity without Hollywood. Xavier Worthy still being a young guy who's getting used to the NFL. I don't think Kelsey is the same takeover superstar tight end that he once was. So now is a lot on Rishi Rice there without Pacheco in the run game. And that's what I do worry about for the Chiefs a little bit. Well, and the worthy point was interesting because Rodney Harrison made that observation, right? And then there's a couple of touchdowns. Exactly. And it's like, Oh, Rodney, Rodney. Rodney doesn't change. This guy's one good game. He is skinny. And it was a reverse and a ball coverage. Let's not forget, right? You know what I mean? This is not a guy that's going to be Terrell Owens. This is not a guy that is going to be, you know, big bodied, pushing guys around. And we've seen it before when you're a little undersized like that, you get man handled with a lot of scrimmage can't get off the jam. Yeah, it doesn't mean he's I'd have more faith in Rishi Rice, especially that's a complicated offense. Yeah, that's their guy. That's their guy. You're right about that. Rishi Rice will be the guy. What I worry about is it's just going to be all him and defenses are going to be able to focus that on a little bit going forward. But man, the Chiefs 2 and 0 against hey, two of two teams that are 0 and 2 that they looked at to go wait, we're going to be fighting for home field advantage of them. They got the leg up on the great AFC North, you know, powers to be there in the bangles and the Ravens. And that's incredible. And and Cincinnati, you know, this is common ground for them. It's it's incredible. But I do think they look better yesterday. And you see, you know, some some positives there to think they can string together some wins here and between the bangles and the Ravens are both 0 and 2. That's great news for the Chiefs. But they got to kick in a little bit. They're looking up at the 2 and 0 Steelers. Yeah, right. You know, in both of the Norths, the teams that went into the season on paper as the worst. Some may say my two favorite teams, right. They're 2 and 0 looking down at everybody else. It's amazing. It is amazing. It's only two weeks, but it really is amazing. It is amazing. So it's what's amazing about the NFL with the salary cap free agency. The teams are so even, especially if it's, you know, four good teams like we see in that that division or those two divisions and conferences. And it's it's yeah, it's the margin of error is very few and far between there between some of these good teams. And yeah, Minnesota and Pittsburgh certainly are sitting pretty right now. With the five dollar meal deal at McDonald's, you pick a McDouble or a McChicken, then get a small fry, a small drink, and a four piece McNuggets. That's a lot of McDonald's for not a lot of money. Price and participation may vary for a limited time only. First of all, congratulations on becoming the official grill and bar sponsor of the National Football League. How does it feel to serve up the NFL? Man, it's a real dream come true. I'm glad we'll be able to serve up some extra heat this season. Do you have any plans to celebrate? Absolutely. 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Definitely. The report from yesterday, Sunday splash, late night Saturday into Sunday morning, Jamart Chase. This was from Adam Schefter of ESPN, not going to do a deal now with the Bengals. And I mentioned this because I think his frustration manifested itself during the game yesterday. He's stuck in a tough spot. They did offer him, and I've alluded to this a couple of times. They offered him 35 million a year in new money, but the structure was caca, as they say. It was a horrible structure. It was not quite the Tyree kill phony baloney, 30 million, but the guarantees weren't right. Things were off. But, hey, we got you to 35 million. You matched your friend, Justin Jefferson. That wasn't good enough. And so when Chase isn't willing to not play, and ultimately he wasn't willing to not play week one, he wants to be there for his teammates. He went through pregame warmups. He finally decided to play his. He's got no way to get the Bengals to improve it. So all he can do is say, I don't want your damn contract. We'll do it next year. But that's exactly what the Bengals want because they want him for 4.8 million this year. The Bengals won this stare down with Jamart Chase. And I mentioned it because, and I'm going somewhere with this, I want to get your thoughts on Chase, but we saw him blow a gasket yesterday after there was a hip drop tackle that he believed was a hip drop tackle. It wasn't called. And he got himself in trouble in a key moment because he he mouthed off a little bit because he was upset. And I think a lot of this contractual stuff, you know, when you're mad, when you're walking around, you just kind of generally pissed off about a lot of stuff. And somebody gives you a reason to blow your stack, you blow your stack. And like, what the hell was that? It's a combination of five months of being pissed off. I think that's where we're at. I do. And to your point, like, yeah, this is maybe what the Bengals wanted one more year to kick the can down the road. But they got to be careful here because they're going to kick the can down the road and not have this guy or not. He's not going to want to be on this team. That's what you got to worry about in the long run. And that's what I do worry about. And of course, that's Jamart Chase's feelings. Do I think he was off base on being mad for what he was mad at? I think he thought he got horse collared. It wasn't a horse collar. And it wasn't a hit drop. Apparently he's hip drop. It wasn't either. It really wasn't. He just got caught in a spot where the guy had his jersey. The guy was in front of him. It wasn't hip drop from behind. And it wasn't like he was being horse collared from the back, right? But yet to your point, he's frustrated. He is. And this is going to be an issue for them going forward. His contract, I think, has stopped them from being able to make some moves on their football team to address it. They got both of their defensive tackles injured yesterday. It was a weak spot for their football team to begin with with Sheldon Rankin's going down and BJ Hill went down too. So that's a little concerning. But man, the Bengals continue to do this and they're going to have to dig themselves out of a hole. They do have a favorable schedule. That's the good thing they got working in their favor here. They got the Washington commanders who I know are solid, but I certainly think the Bengals are better. They got the Carolina Panthers. Then they got the Ravens and they got the Giants out of the next four games. They are better than three of the four of those teams. I'm not saying anything that's, you know, breaking news there. And let's see if they can win the games they're supposed to win. And Devin McCordy has developed into a Bengal skeptic. He doesn't want to hear about how they bounce back in past years. He wants to see it, but the history informs the present. We've seen them bounce back. And he made the point last night, two of the years they have and two of the years they haven't. The two years they have, Joe Burris, they're healthy. The two years they didn't. He got injured in November and was lost for the year. Torn ACL is a rookie. Well, yeah, they weren't coming in. They weren't going to be good as a rookie no matter what. But regardless, regardless, that's the key. They can turn this around. They were turning it around last year. And they almost won yesterday. Yeah, they're on two, but they didn't get embarrassed or outclassed by the Chiefs. They went into a spot where whenever you go to Kansas City during the regular season, you have to assume there's a good chance we're going to come out of there with an L, whether it's week one, week 18 or any of the weeks in between. And that's what happened. And they could have won. And if they get a chance to go back in January, maybe they will win. So your Super Bowl winner prediction is still very much alive. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. We'll see where it goes. A lot of football will have to be played. And I, you know, you can start rattling off the stats of the chances of making the playoffs when you start 0 and 2. This is only the fourth year of 17 games. So that's really not the sample size necessary. And one of the reasons why teams that start 0 and 2 don't make it to the playoffs, a lot of those teams suck. Yeah. Right. It's not very often that there's a really great team that ended up losing its first two games for reasons other than the fact that they were really great team. Right. Right. And that may be what happens with the Cincinnati Bengals, but it would be nice for them to get their shit together. Sorry, London. Yeah. And when in week one and week two, because even though you're a much better team or a much worse team, but you're really the same team by January, those losses in early September can haunt you when it comes to making the playoffs, not making the playoffs, winning the division, et cetera. Let me say one more thing about the hip drop tackle. Yeah. Because Joe Nixon got hit drop. It was hip drop. But he has a prop. Yeah. Right. Last Monday night. Right. Michael Carter of the Jets. Yeah. Hip drops to on Jennings. Right. League tells me the next day. That was a hip drop. Okay. Yeah. Outcomes the fines on Saturday. He's not fine. And I, I, you said it was a hip drop. Well, when we looked at it more closely, the four elements weren't there. It's like, you know, what the hell? And there had better never be a flag for this, because Joe Nixon was saying, why do you have this rule? If you're not going to throw the flag. Yeah. But if they don't know what the hell it is. Yeah. And that if they think the morning after a game that it is, and then they decide when they get out the microscope that it wasn't, how do you expect the officials to ever get it right in real time? And this is my biggest concern about the rule. Yeah. What's going to happen is, in a key moment of a key game, we're going to think we see a hip drop. The flag's going to come out, and it's going to change the game. And the people are going to put on their tin foil hats, because like, Hey, it's the first time all year this has been flagged. That's what they're setting up. Unless and until they say to the officials, never call it at all. And I hope that's the effect of the past couple of weeks that they realize, we think we may see it, but we really don't know, and you have to do is a Pruder film frame by frame to really know. I'm just concerned about it, because I'm always looking for the areas where something can hit the fan. Yeah, it's not consistent. And this is an area where something can hit the fan. I hear you there. I got you. Like when you have hazards in your house, when you have little kids, the stuff that makes you nervous, like the electrical outlet and the stairs. And this is just one of those things that it's in the house. It's a hazard. And it's, it's just, I'm going to worry about it. And I worry about this stuff far more than the NFL does. Why do I worry about it? See, I worry about something that's going to f dash dash k everything up for everyone. Some kind of a scandal, some kind of a controversy, some kind of a thing that gets Congress up the NFL's butt and just creates all sorts of problems for the league and gets people to the point where they just say, ah, this is pro wrestling. We don't care anymore. Even if it's not, even if it's not, but I'm worried about that. That happened. But I hear you there. It is a little, you know, concerning whether they're going to be able to see it in real time and call it the right way and do that. I get that all the way. I thought the one with Joe Nixon last night was hip drop certainly. I can't remember the Jets one by. Oh, it was clear. I mean, it looked clear. I pulled him down, pulled him down, pulled you on Jennings down without anybody else around. Right. And Eli Manning mentioned it right away on the Manning cast. Joe Buck and Trey mentioned it almost right away on the main broadcast and no flag. And the league said, yeah, it's hip drop. And then Saturday, it's like, oh, there's no fun. Well, we looked at it more closely in a way. So it's just, I just, I'm just worried. Yeah, don't worry. We got a Monday. We got. I'm worried about it. Well, we're giving the other one budget in our time. Okay. Last night, if you fell asleep as I was struggling, it was one of those moments where the eyes, I rarely do that. Some of us work five days away, too. Monday through Friday. Some of us only work on the NFL. Okay. So the Houston Texans and the Chicago Bears got together for Sunday night football was our first prime time, real prime time look at CJ Stroud. Last year it was a week 18. Let's pull the game to Saturday night because it was the AFC South championship. I mean, it wasn't anything overly spectacular. At times it felt like the Texans were going to blow them out. The Bears did a nice job of hanging around. At the end of the day, it was 1913. I can't remember what the spread was. Did the Bears cover? Did they cover? Because you and I picked them to lose by nine. You picked them to lose by eight. And it was 1910. Yeah. Until the Bears kicked a field goal fairly late. I can't remember what the spread was either. I want to, I want to say maybe it was six. Oh, well, everybody wins. Everybody loses. Two really good defenses. I think that's the first thing you talk about, right? Two really good defenses. And then when you talk about the Houston Texans, obviously an offense that's way farther along than the Chicago Bears. That's for sure. And the Houston Texans are one of the best teams in football. And we know CJ Stroud is certainly one of the best quarterbacks in the game. Nico Collins has become a superstar. And everybody, I know Stephon Diggs is the big name, but this is going to be the guy all year. Just like, I know it's Kelsey in Kansas City. It's really where she rises. The guy now, Nico Collins is the guy. They're basing their offense around. And Stephon Diggs will certainly have his moments. He's a great route runner. He still can provide a lot of things to their offense. But man, this guy right here throwing the ball is just pinpoint. And like we talked about, this Bears defense is no joke. Eber Flus is a good coach. They're creative schematically. And they got good players to go along with it. They made things tough on Houston. Houston ran the ball great last week. We know the passing game scary, but it was it was Chicago's defense that kept them in the game because the offense and we'll get to that needs a lot of freaking work in a lot of different ways, in my opinion. Yeah. And I mean, I think the Bears suffered from a little too much hype, a little too high of expectations. Yeah. We all got fascinated. And we were guilty of that too. We got fascinated with Caleb Williams. And it was a very simple analysis. They already have a great defense. Oh, wow. Look at what they've added offensively. It's not it wasn't just they could be really good. Maybe it's like they are like, hey, this is the team that, you know, they're not going to hide from anyone. And I think that's part of the problem. I hear you. They didn't get to enjoy their year of sneaking up on everyone. Like the Texans did last year. They got thrust right into the spotlight. Hard knocks didn't help, but high expectations and yeah, a lot of work that that needs to be done. I'm looking at the numbers. Yeah. You know, DeAndre Swift, big free agent addition that we thought was going to move the needle 14 carries 18 yards. They can't run at all. Right. Last week. When the leading rusher is your rookie quarterback first overall pick. I'm good. 44 yards on five attempts, scrambles. I assume for the most part, I doubt those were designed runs. No, it's the second week in a row, Mike. They're all line kind of got their their ass beat. That's just a simple way of a petrol issue with the bears to man. It's it's kind of surprising because the last year, it was it ended off on a solid note where you went, Hey, things are going in the right direction. They move guys around a little bit. You had some hope there, but you're right, Mike. It's been an issue for a few years and it's still an issue right now. They can't run the ball worth a damn seven sacks last night. We saw Tennessee's defense in week one, especially the interior part of their D line just absolutely dominated the bears interior part of their offensive line. So that that is concerning. Let alone, there's no Keenan Allen and he's hurt and he is at that age where this could be, you know, something that is kind of consistent. Roma Dunes A was playing less than 100% and now you have a rookie quarterback and on top of that two weeks in a row and I know it's early and I'm not going to try to overdo this, but I don't love what I see from the offense even schematically. That's with my big thing. That's what would bother me. I watched all the game on film last week. It was way too basic. You heard me say that. I don't care who was playing quarterback. There was nothing there to be had. Now the Texas defense is awesome. I get that, but still when I watch some of the route patterns, we get all these camera angles on NBC and I can see it all. The Houston Texans don't like to blitz and play man to man. That's not what they do. You know what they did last night? They blitzed and play man to man. You know, one of my big reasons I would think that happened is because they watched film and they said, wait, let's blitz so he can't run around and they only run like five routes on offense. It's a go route. It's a slant route. It's a shallow cross. I mean, here in the highlights are saying it all for me. You see the routes downfield. It's nothing. So when the players aren't playing good, we can't dominate the line of scrimmage. We got a few injuries. What do we need a schematical advantage? And they don't have that either. And that's led to some ugly, ugly pipes so far. So to the extent that we saw some Pat Mahomes comparisons between Caleb Williams and the greatest of all time, arguably, if not actually, the difference is you mentioned the blitz. What does Mahomes do when you blitz him? He kicks it in higher gear. Sure. Yeah. And so far, Caleb Williams hasn't gotten to the point where he can do that. So it's going to keep happening. It's going to keep happening. And Kansas City had answers for that. And Kansas City, let's not forget as awesome as Patrick Mahomes, the offense they started to run with Patrick Mahomes, the league had never seen an offense like that. So it had creative answers that everybody was like, what the hell is this? We've never seen a team attack like this. They're just sending people downfield everywhere and letting this guy float around and do that. And of course, they could protect better than the Chicago Bears team. But I think when you couple that with weight, no, it's very routine. It's very West Coasty basic stuff. That is what scares me. And yeah, Shane Waldron's definitely got to go back to the drawing board, the offensive coordinator and figure out a new way to attack here and try to find some creative angles to get them going and get some confidence in the offense. When your top running back has 1.3 yards per carry, and the number two guy has 1.5 yards per carry, that's a problem. Kaleel Herbert almost has a Jerome Bettis stat line for last night. The all time great stat line for Jerome Bettis was five carries, one yard, three touchdowns. Yeah. And Herbert's got two carries, three yards, one touchdown last time. It was late in the second quarter. They were negative yards running. I literally made a comment in the viewing room. DeAndre Swift got the seven yard run. And I went, oh, they're actually in the positives now running the ball. They couldn't get back to the line of scrimmage. So and and and listen, the Houston defense, I know, is really good. And I think it only can continue to get better. Demico Ryan's the hell of a coach, what they got going on there on the defensive side, the talents good. And they got a little versatility in their attack. You know, they're they're based in that Seattle scheme to a degree, but they're not afraid to play man-to-man, maybe more than Seattle where the 49ers do out in San Francisco. Because they got some guys that can, as you see in the background here, look at this. I want you guys to rewind these plays. Can we rewind this and go back to the start here? Because I think it's worth showing. Mike, watch not only the defense, but again, tell me what on the offense is supposed to scare anybody. Yeah. One, we can't protect two. It's three guys out in a row. I can't move to USC. It's a lot like that in a USC. Here we go again. Oh, it's two go routes and the guy on the inside joining a five yard out. Whoa. Whoa. Don't blow me away offense. Don't be so creative. So yeah, there's things there. And when you're playing the defense that's coached by Demico Ryan's and company, they're going to be all over some of this basic stuff, Mike. That's a problem. And I am concerned with the way the Bears offense looks after two weeks. And let me just say this. It's super early, but if you're mad to eat before she got to get your stuff together because you become the most obvious candidate to be replaced if this is a disappointing year, especially when in a primetime game, you completely blow it with two of your channels. That was a bad look. That's just one of the objective indicators as to whether or not it's like a simple pass fail. We're thinking clearly. Does this staff right? Are they able to process and decide things? I hear you there accurately. And when you see Stefan did clearly in bounce, clearly in bounce, right in front of you. And you throw the child. What the hell? And you throw the chance like and then the interception where the ball hit the ground a couple of times and you throw the red flag again, Ebafluze defended his processes after the game that it's all in the outcome. I don't care about your process. I care about the outcome. Yeah. Right. He was wanting to be out because it was a third down. And that's where I have and I guess now that since you get a third challenge, if you get one of the first two right, you may have a greater willingness to just kind of do that every now frustration challenge. Yeah. Right. Almost like a simulated timeout. Like I'm just pissed and I'm throwing this red flag in lieu of calling timeout. Yep. And maybe I'll get lucky. Yep. I understand that in theory. But when it's clear, like with digs, if they would have rooted out of bounds and the Texans that throw in the red flag, it would have been overtoned like that. That's how clear it was that it wasn't what the Bears thought it was. So I just think you got to be careful with that, especially if you're going to underachieve, if the offense is going to be too simple, if the Bears aren't going to be as good, and then they're they're one in one, but if they're not going to be what we thought they were going to be. Yeah. Right. That's the kind of thing that starts to heat up seats for the offensive coordinator and for the head coach. That's right. And it gets a team that has a quarterback with a ton of promise and talent and trying to go out and find an offensive head coach, not a defense. You got to worry about it. All eyes are going to be on the quarterback in the first pick and the progress there may, no matter how good the defense is, which again, it was phenomenal last night. And like you talked about it, kept them in the football game. Hebrew flus will ultimately be judged by, yes, this team winning and how Caleb Williams looks as they do that. They got tough sledding ahead. The Vikings next week, right? The Jaguars down the road, which is still a talented team. You got me excited that they don't, the Vikings don't get the Bears right away. You're right. I'm on the wrong team. You're right. Exactly right. The Bears, they got the Colts. Okay, that's positive. Rams is positive. Carolina Panthers is positive. Definitely. So maybe they can get something going here offensively because those are three teams that have not played great defense to this point. Build a little confidence, get a few wins. Things start to flow. Exactly. Now, hey, we did this well for two or three weeks. Now I can add something off of what we did well. But we'll see where that goes. They got a lot of work to do on that side of the ball. And Houston, come on. They're another team that I throw up there with your Minnesota team, with between Dameko Ryan's, the defensive coordinator, Matt Burke, who's a hell of a coach. And then Bobby Sloeck, you go, those are three guys that got it all. And I, you know, as we know, I don't think Houston's going anywhere. They're going to be in this all year long. They are going to Minnesota next week. That's one of the key one o'clock Eastern games now that both teams will enter at two and O. Yeah, that's very good. The Vikings looking better than expected. But the Texans, it was at times a little sluggish. It was at times a little ugly. Joe mixing up, banged up by that hip drop tackle or not. We'll see what the league ultimately says. But he had only 25 yards after over 100. Yeah, they couldn't run the ball like they did in week one. Right. Exactly right. Right. So what, what do you see in the Houston offense that, that is good? And what do you see that they need to work on? I think Houston's offense has got a little bit of everything. I really do. Now, now, is it, is it been perfect to this point? And you know, getting digs more involved in the offense and Tank Dell, I still think, is probably not quite a hundred percent. But I look at Houston and especially with the way they ran the ball last week. And I think that most weeks they're going to continue to run the ball really good. Don't forget that bears defense. I do think is one of the better defenses in football. It ended the year that way last year. Eber Flus is really good. But I think their potential is limitless there in Houston and hopefully mixing is not too banged up with that ankle injury. Nico Collins is the guy in the passing game. 10 targets eight catches 135 yards and a touchdown. You mentioned Tank Dell. He was targeted at four times one catch for minus three yards. He had three carries for 16 yards. So he's still working his way in the right direction. Stefan digs. Nobody expected him. Nobody who pays attention to football expected him to be the number one receiver. Exactly right. Except maybe him. Yeah. And that's going to be part of this process. As long as they're winning he'll be fine. Exactly. The minute they're not winning that's when great receivers get it twisted up in their heads. No touchdowns. But we would be winning if I was getting the ball more exactly right. Right. So as long as you're winning that short circuits the selfish loop that isn't selfish it's it's confident maybe delusional at times. It's the OBJ like we're losing and I'm not getting the ball. If I got the ball more we'd win. Yeah. And you can't prove me wrong because we're not winning. You only prove me wrong by winning when I'm not getting the ball as much as I'd like to get the ball. They'll figure it out. They'll figure it out with him. They've got a lot of guys that can catch the ball and be dangerous and they just got to figure out their formula and what's going to work for them. But you know as I said I think for their offense that's one of the tougher teams they'll play. Nine guys. Nine different guys companies. Yeah. Right. So they'll get that a little bit you know hunkered in hunkered down there. Maybe not nine guys that start to focus on three four guys that they like more than anything in that offense. Smart for them to get cam acres though if Joe Mixon's going to miss any time he had seven carries for 32 yards last night after Mixon got injured and they may need him if Mixon ends up missing any time at all. Here's both D'Amico Ryan said coach of the Texans and quarterback CJ Stroud on what ultimately was an ugly win for the two and no Texans. It's just about winning. One week at a time is they're not always going to be pretty but you just have to find a way to win and that's what I'm most proud about with our guys like no matter what happened near the end we found a way to win with all the penalties all of the negative plays like we were able to gut out a win and that's what this league is about. I'm happy. Of course I'm not satisfied. I'll never be satisfied. There's always things that you can point out. We're not going to let one half the football make make us put our head and we're going to stay confident. We're going to stay taking shots. We're going to stay betting on us. So I definitely understand we need to be better but like you said winning is number one so we won and now it's time to move on and get better. One of the things that Coach Garrett does, he's not overtly negative. He just kind of raises questions and one of the questions he's had this year, will the Texans have a step back because teams have had a full-off season to study what they're doing to study CJ Stroud and that's what makes next week's game a little more fascinating what has Brian Flores cooked up for CJ Stroud based upon a full season of play and an off-season to study and since May they've known that week three CJ Stroud and the Texans are going to roll into town. It's going to be interesting little psychological battle there because Flores it's going to be wait I'm playing the same offense to a degree right it's Bobby Sloeck who learned from Shanahan he's not Shanahan but damn he's damn close to it so there's going to be some things there where he's going to go wait this is carryover from last week we can have some some rules but at the same time Bobby Sloeck's going to be able to watch film and go wait they did this to Shanahan when he got in some of these formations and what he wanted to do and I want to do those and he'll have an idea of what maybe Flores is doing game pointing there so I'm interested in that that little coaching match up there that these are two of the the better coach teams and all the football he used in Minnesota this is a rare Monday show actually a rare show for any day we're ahead of schedule we're ahead of budget we got lots of games in the bank so let's go ahead and take a break a little early we'll talk more about the Vikings and the 49ers okay we'll talk about the Cowboys and the Saints Saints fans probably upset it's taken us at least 40 minutes to get into what was one of the most impressive wins of the day that and plenty more when PFT live continues right after this let's break down this week's top matchups with dominoes first up it's bread twists and loaded tarts followed by buffalo wings and a medium to topping pizza at dominoes you can mix and match any two or more items for $6.99 each how does your game day spread match up order the mix and match deal from dominoes ask for this offer to item minimum prices participation delivery area and charges may vary prices higher in some locations bone in wings bread bowl pasta and pan pizza will cost extra local stores set delivery fees and may charge extra for some menu items crust types toppings and sauces first of all congratulations on becoming the official grill and bar sponsor of the national football league how does it feel to serve up the NFL man it's a real dream come true i'm glad we'll be able to serve up some extra heat this season do you have any plans to celebrate absolutely we're gonna serve up america's favor bonus wings for just 50 cents each to kick off the season any of our sauces whether it's in restaurant or to go it don't matter it's all 50 cents all the time are you worried at all about any competition this season what competition limited time price participation in selection may vary tax and gratuity excluded