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Xena Talks STARDOM, Mina Shirakawa, Living In Japan, 5STAR GP, And More | Interview

Duration:
48m
Broadcast on:
16 Sep 2024
Audio Format:
mp3

STARDOM’s Xena spoke with Fightful’s Scott Edwards following her run in the 5STAR Grand Prix and High-Speed Championship challenge

1:04: Main Eventing Korakuen Hall

3:20: Pressure of a World of Stardom Title Match

5:55: Japanese/Joshi Style

8:13: Her Style

9:08: Help from DAGA

12:23: Beginnning of Career in Austrailia

13:35: Learning from Cheerleader Melissa

15:10: Working Alongside Mina Shirakawa

18:59: Returning to STARDOM

20:53: Who She'd Like To Face in STARDOM

23:39: Chops

28:57: Match with Anna Jay

32:30: First 5STAR Grand Prix

39:00: Career Goals

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I'm doing great. I'm happy to finally get the chance to talk to you. Obviously, we've been trying to make this work. You're very busy. Obviously, you have a lot of matches every week. And you're coming off the five-star Grand Prix in August. So, and you just made a event to Cork and Hall. So, you've been kind of busy. [Laughter] Cork and Hall match was like, it was like for a guy-gen to made a event in Cork and it was like a big thing. Because I didn't think it was handed so easily to guy-gen to make a event in that place. So, when I got the option to make a event, I was like, "Whoa, he would have thought." If you don't need to either, I'll be made an event in Cork and I'll be laughing at you. I know, I was going to ask you about that because you've made an event in Cork and you obviously made an event in Giyogi earlier this year against Micah for the world title. That was like two monsters, two coffees in. And being the main event at such a late show, it was just waiting for the match to actually happen. So, I've like, formed up, I've done all the things I need to do and I'm just like sitting and waiting like, "Okay, I'm nervous, but like, I want to go. Let's go. Let's hit the shit." Yeah, like, it makes such a great point because, you know, obviously the Cork and I think this is just like something that maybe fans don't realize. The Cork and early in the day, we were talking about this before, we pressed record. Early in the day, you're kind of just waiting, getting yourself right. Well, the match against Micah, you know, you're waiting all day. It's the world title and so much had happened on that show to begin with. That much happened on that show. I could call the cheese and the booze and I was like, "Oh, like, whatever room you're in backstage, you think everything that's happening in the rings." Yeah, I was like, "That's great." Yeah, I think it's best to just like dive into that match because like I said, start on the conversion. Everyone could check it out on stardomworld. You and Micah have this super physical, super like serious big time world title match. I think it's your best match you've had just like considering what you two did. And like I said, so much had happened right before that. Do you feel the pressure going into such a match or for you being in there with someone like Micah who obviously you are in the same faction with? I'm sure you spend a lot of time with and have been in the ring with a lot. Does that pressure kind of get null and void because of who you're sharing the ring with? Well, you know what's crazy when that match was coming up, I was like looking back at it the other day actually. And I was looking at how many single matches I've had in my career. Like in stardom only, I think up to that match with Micah, counting lasties, I probably only had like eight singles in stardom. And like career wise, I don't know career wise, I'd say like 10, 20 singles before stardom. So it was like, I'm still green. Like, I thought like, like, like, I need to like really step up my game and I'm about to like main event. So like, I put all the hard work and I was training, I was studying Micah's matches. I was like, joining Jiu Jitsu class is like, do you feel all the techniques? Like, you know, so I really prepped myself for that match. And I feel like in a way, I needed that match too, because I felt like I was being held back all the time. Yeah, of course. If it's a singles match, you can showcase everything you have up to sleeves. So that match is definitely one of my favorite matches. I feel so bad because like Micah, I'm sorry. And I was like, she's wearing clothes. I still see the scars on her. I have to go away eventually. Yeah, those chopster, those were nasty in that match. Chest turn red in real time. Yeah, I mean, I think everyone should go watch the match that's listening to this. Just because like, like you said, like you're saying, you know, you still feel green. And I think for a lot of people who have watched you through your stardom career, especially, that match was like the. Oh, Zina's doing that, right? And you just said what your eight singles match or showing stardom. Like, because I remember in your first tour, you had a singles match for Shuri right before you had that you left. And I remember that being like the standout match like, Oh, Zina needs to get back to Japan. And it's because of the match with Micah. It's like, this is why you needed to get back. So I'm so happy to hear, you know, like that, that you felt you needed. You know, like we said, kind of poor Micah in the end, paid for it a little bit. Like, I think that's the beauty of your style is like, you, you're in a, you're in a world of Joshi wrestling that's very physical and very, you know, it's so exciting with the athleticism. And you're just out there chopping chopping the hell out of these people. Yeah, I love it because you give it and you take it like, yeah, you get what you give pretty much. Yeah, I think that just kind of brings us into a other opponent of yours who likes to give it right back. And then of course, Saida, I think, I think I have to ask about Saida because you two have spent multiple matches together with, you know, tag singles. Yeah, and you just chop and chop and chop and I'm just like, that's kind of, you know, I feel bad for both of them, but they're just, I could see the, you know, the passion and excitement on the faces. And then we're like, look, you can last the longest, you know, let's do you guys down first. Yeah, I think it was May Sarah, this past weekend, when you chopped her. I thought the poor girl is going to crumble. I was like, oh, like she's so, because it was styled as a high speed match. I was like, let me go away from my chops, but maybe one. It's it's when I, when I was watching through your five star, which we'll get into. It was like every match was like, okay, she's going to bring out one of the chops, and it's just going to, the beauty of your chops is just changes the match, right? It just like flips it on its head. So it's an awesome style that you bring to the ring. And I kind of want to just like dive into your style. Obviously, you said you're, you still feel like you're green at times, especially heading into the world title match, but you have in your, in your first match in stardom in 2023 compared to now you have completely transformed. So that's something you have going in your head as you continuously compete, because like you said, you showcase this weekend, you can do high speed. We saw you do a world, you know, epic world title match that's super physical. Do you feel you're kind of a jack of all trades that you have a specific style you're aiming for? I like a lot of people think I'm like a striking style with my chops and then they actually watch me and they can see I can do like the power stuff, the high speed stuff, but we're still working on the high speed stuff guys. What's it called, like a practice for me. I think my first friend here, like it was my first international trip so I was like so unprepared. I like, I was coming into stardom like, like I didn't know anyone. I didn't know how to speak the language. I think the first trip helped me adapt so much more for my like second trip. I was so much more comfortable with everyone like the style the wrestling I felt comfortable doing what I wanted to do. I think that helped a lot my first three months there. And someone that's helped me a lot is my partner, because he's traveled everywhere, he knows like the different styles. So sometimes I'd be like watching his matches and I'd like to do that. We actually go on the ring and train, we turn like two, three hours, like monthly. Yeah. Yeah, how I slam off the apron I've taken that whole game. That one's awesome. That when you did that in the mic match was like, oh, like he was like that like, oh my god, like type. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pay tribute to you. I mean, I was gonna ask you about, you know, first time you're here first three months tour, you know, when you talk to, you know, foreigners who go to Japan, especially for the first time they could talk about how, you know, tours can be somewhat lonely because you're learning a lot, and you're getting used to the, you know, the roster that you're competing with and so on. So now, you know, you come over here for the second time full time run, you've been with stardom since February. Yeah. Yeah. How has, you know, just kind of having daga there with you helped you as a whole, just, you know, kind of having like familiarity and we've birthed me like Japan our home. Like when we have free days and our schedules don't clash, we'll go and film concert for YouTube and we'll visit places that we have. So we're always on tourist mode here at the same time. The food's so good here so like, that's something we both like about the food we're just like what do we want to try next and we'll go try it. But if we're both through, we'll go with your wrestling show, you know, because we do other wrestlers here and their friends with them so we like to go support. So, yeah, it's less learning. I can say that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay, what's your favorite food that you've tried there in Japan. Well, we just a yakitor. It's like barbecue stuff that they bring to you, but yakitor. It's like Korean barbecue pretty much. Okay. But even the ramen depends on the weather. Sorry. Yeah. And of course, the YouTube channel is DNx that everyone can check out. I haven't posted. We have to like the content, but I haven't posted because I've been so busy. Like I say, I think you both been a little bit busy. I mean, no, you just had the five stars. I think it's acceptable. You know, but sometimes it'll be like, I want to come with you. No, I'm too embarrassed. Like if you're on like the audience, like, but you'll see sometimes I come out with my entrance and if he's watching, I'm going to blow you. Everyone's going to notice that. Yeah. Oh, I guess they're proud. Well, all right. We'll take you back to the beginning kind of for you. You know, you debut. You started your career in Australia back in 2018. If I, if I'm correct. There's like many promotions in Sydney, like my cage manager, like anything, you'll say like maybe three matches in those in the time like it took me to come to start them. Okay. Yeah. Well, that's like, I'll probably get probably a match every two or three months there. So I was like, very green. So I was taking any bookings I could at the time, just to like get some reps in. And then, as you said, COVID hit before. Yeah. And that stuff like my bag. Yeah. Like, you know, even if you like, look at your cage match, like, like you said, it's, you know, matched sporadically here and there throughout the months and then COVID confidence like three years off. Yeah. And then you find yourself and start them. Right. So, like, I need to ask me, how did that come about? That's incredible. I manifested, I'll just put that out there to the universe. Okay. Okay. If you, I've read one of your interviews for Resuramag.com, you talked about cheerleader Melissa and kind of learning along the way, despite COVID, you know, stopping you from competing. So we couldn't do anything wrestling wise during COVID. So we'll send, like me and my friend, Jay, he introduced me to her at the time. And would send matches over to her and she'll jump on a FaceTime call and like critique her and like, oh, you should do this, do that. So it was like virtual training. And this, she's never met me. So she didn't have to go out of her way to do all that. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. That's so cool. Every time everyone's like, oh, like, who showed you how to, I'm like, cheerleader, Melissa, like this lady put her time and day into like, showing me what to do in the ring. Besides that, at the time, I was trying to do like ninja warrior. I tried to like, he shows, I was trying to myself busy and saying, and then I think December is when I got in contact with stardom to like calm people. But I didn't manifest that I'll just say that. I believe it. I mean, you, in your first stardom run in 2023, you debuted in the Cinderella tournament, which, you know, is a pretty big deal for those who are listening and, you know, kind of learning about starting along with this interview. And then, of course, you go on a three month run, you're part of club Venus, and you're working with, of course, Mina Sherikawa, who you're still in a faction with. How has, you know, Mina, obviously one of the, you know, best in stardom. That's the world she's going worldwide. She's very busy these days. How is working with Mina kind of helped you because obviously she speaks a good amount of English as well. And, you know, being partnered with her, you know, along the way in your time of stardom. I feel like Mina deserves the grand stage, because she just comes out and it's all eyes on her. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, she's entertaining. Everyone loves watching her like, if she's just walking to like, like, you know, staring down like, what's the book. I always think about Mina, because I feel like, without Mina, none of us fagens would have been here in the first place. Because when they scattered the girls, it was joint club Venus. So everyone being where they are today, like a big part of it is because of Mina Sherikawa. Yeah, she helped me with my first match, like she showed me what to do. She showed me how to like work the style she came with me and like pretty much mentored me the whole time. That's awesome. That's awesome to hear. I like, I think you're right. Like, you know, she does deserve the grand stage, but she shows up. It's like, okay, here we go. She's very charismatic, but I think it's great to hear just how much she helped you along the way, because, you know, I'm sure it can be tough. Again, in that first three months, you know, you're learning, you're trying to understand language, but being part of that club Venus faction, I'm sure just did a lot of good for you. In getting you comfortable with stardom as a whole. Yeah. Yeah. So my next question for you is we've talked about titles earlier on. You, of course, had the world of stardom title match with Micah. You just had the high speed match with Masera in the main event of Cork and Hall. Kind of a big deal for anyone that knows, you know. Do you feel like, do you have like that pinch me tight moment before you head out there? It's like, I'm in the main event of Cork and, you know, foreigners don't just get to main event. These shows, right? And you are out there doing so in a title match in a new style, by the way, high speeds, not easy. I feel like if I know I've put like a hundred percent into everything that needs to go into the match, I'm always like, I've got my calm. And something I do is like, I listen to like my songs and I play hand crush. That's awesome. That's me, they'll be like, like, there's something wrong with you. Like, you're never nervous. I remember I thought she was like, I'm so chill, like, because I've done everything I need to, like, but like leading up to the match. Like, if I'm nervous, it's just going to psych myself out. But I always have that moment after when I really watch my match. I'm like, that's badass. That's awesome. That's awesome. I love that. Do you watch back your matches to, like, learn, okay, to, you know, see what you do and don't do, because I know some wrestlers don't watch their matches. I do, and I drag. Dad, I'm like, hello, Tom. Watch, be back. That's great, because you know, you're having second eyes on it. And obviously, like you said, he's been world-traveled. He's been here there and everywhere, obviously he's in Noah now, absolutely crushing it. So, I love to hear that. So, let's talk about returning to starting for the second run. Join EXV. When you came back, one, one, when you left starting the first time, did you know you're like, I need to get back there? Because, you know, three-month tours were, you know, that's a usual thing. Yeah. Did you, did you feel I need to get back there? I have so much more to do, or was it, we'll see what happens? I think it was more often my match for Shuri, because we just thought it's frying in the ring. And I was trying, I was like, dancing me back up. I don't want to get back up. But Shuri has special ability, I think, to, you know, Shuri's the, you know, former UFC fighter, reached the top of stardom and just done so much. She's very emotional. She gets you. Like she's gotten me multiple times. That, like, after we wrestle, like, if she touches me, we're both crying. Like, you just, like, touches me with the thing I'm crying. That's, that's amazing. Which is, which is funny, because when you two step in the ring, you know, it's like too bad. At the end of the match, you're, like, plugging and crying. Yeah, you say, it's like very much the opposite of, like, the, it's like, oh, oh, here we go, you know, big kicks. It's just with the... Yeah. It's just Shuri, I'm trying to... Do you, do you have a, you know, obviously you're not in the same group with her, but you've shared the ring. Last match in your first tour, you just had a match with her in the five-star Grand Prix. Do you just feel like there's a connection when that bell rings, it's just, like, easy for you? It's like, I think you see me, let's, let's do this. That's awesome. That's awesome. She, she's a special wrestler. So I love to, I love to hear that, those types of stories. Talking about opponents in stardom. You've wrestled everyone through tags, but it's given those big singles matches to certain people you haven't had yet. Is there anyone you haven't had one with in stardom yet that you're like, I need that match. I think with Saya, I feel Saya. Okay. I think I've heard any of that, like, clashed with her for, like, a 20-second thing, like, in my life. Yeah. So you want to embrace the, the Saya Kamatani of hate. You want, you want to see how that feels. I mean, Crowd's lover, so... Yeah, I agree. It would be very exciting to watch you two interact. You know, if she, if she hits her, like, posting with the eye, are you just going to chop her? [laughter] Passion, drive and patience. The formula for winning championships is also what keeps your ride or die alive. eBay Motors has everything you need to maintain your vehicle and level it up to peak performance. Superchargers, roof racks, exhaust kits, LED headlights and more. 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There was a match you and Hazuki went in there. And she just started chopping you right back the same time. Hazuki doesn't really chop. I was like, "Oh, I think you've made the rest of your fighter with like, "Oh, I want to do that now." Hazuki can't gird her like her chops. I put her on like the top five of the chops. Cause she always feels like she gives her back to me. She's friends with Eda. I feel like you learned along the way kind of, you know, fact made to the Eda. I don't know if it's the overhand chop. It gets me with the overhand chop and it's like the perfect style and everything is perfect. Yeah. But I like to show people I can do the side chop too sometimes, but I just prefer this one. Yeah. So I didn't get their face because sometimes the side like my hand, I don't know if you've noticed, but when I rest, I'm like... I think the overhand chop, like you said, makes better noise. It just looks brutal and you know, sometimes you just like hit like 10 of them at a time. It's like, "Oh." When I watch my chops back, I don't even wind it up. I just, from here. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. And they're so loud. I'm like, "Hey, today I'm going to wind it off and I just end up doing it from here because my hand's just like..." That was going to be my question. Like, how does your hands feel? Like, yeah, the chest of your opponent is not great. But your hand's going to hurt, right? I have a photo from like, after Mike's match where it's just like blue and purple and it's like... At the ice of like an hour because I couldn't, like, my blood is running, it was cold. I'll wear it to though, in the end. That match, right? I don't know if I've got big hands because my man says I've got like the Mickey Mouse white glove hands. I can't remember, like, a whack-off. I'm measuring my hand with a coat and it's like half my size. But then Hanukkah's hint is my size, but Hanukkah's so much taller than me. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they're effective. That's what matters, right? It works in the matches, benefits you. I don't know. I'm talking to the screen, so I don't know. But that's fine. The Mickey Mouse thing got me good. So what is your favorite venue to wrestle in Japan? Like, when you... It could just be corking, I wouldn't be shocked. But, you know, I saw, you know, that was two weeks ago, you know, Shinjuku face was so loud and it's very intimate. And, you know, I know, I know, but I was like, you need to be in there. Imagine the chops. Imagine the reactions. I've gone there to watch a normal show. I always love like smaller venues where it's like filled and like, it echoes. That's definitely like, it's a wrestling venue too. It's no for like, to put wrestlers on them. I think KBS, because it's so pretty. Yeah, I love that. Korykin, when it's when it's full, it's very hot. And especially like the Sunday show, it was so early, but it had a really good crowd. Yeah, it was impressive. Yeah, when we have like the late shows, it's like even better. Yeah. It do, you know, talk about KBS Hall. I love that you said that because so many people praise that venue that, you know, may have not been there, but you're just looking at it. It's like, this is incredible. It doesn't just feel that way when you're in there. It's like, wow, what a, what a place. And then, you know, what a cool place for wrestling. It's always so hot in there with the lights and when you get the photos. Yeah, like that. The photos are great. You know, like, they always look so cool. So. Yeah. You won your first title in stardom earlier this year, winning the art of stardom title with Micah and Mina Shirakawa. How cool was that for you to win gold in stardom in your second time around with the company. It was good. And it was like very unexpected because you're so early as well with my return. Mm hmm. Yeah. My main travel this wall, maybe to out, you know, what is she consonants, like the, it's like the bullet train here to come watch me. So I was like, like, on a, like, just like you after the match. But it was also against Mariah, which I had a single match with in my first Cinderella run. So I always had that respect for Mariah. So winning it off Mariah was, like, big for me. Yeah. Yeah. Also was on her way out. So. Mm hmm. Did you click that put me over as well at the same time? Yeah. Yeah. It was very cool, you know, to see you get that opportunity to not only become champion, but, you know, fight Mariah on her way out. Um, you know, that connection with her. I remember, because I remember your match from the first Cinderella with her. And that was the first time I think everyone was like, Oh, like, because, you know, those Cinderella matches so quick. They're so, you know, they're very unique as well. I think a lot of people that watched Cinderella matches, you know, with the over the top rope and the short time limit. But that match with Mariah, you two just, like I said, clicked. And it was, it was kind of the first time I feel that you just maybe felt comfortable in there. Yeah. Did working with her. Just feel like, again, I brought up earlier with like someone like Shuri kind of just easy. Like you just, you got it. Yeah. Like, I'm not scared to go into a lariat with you. Because I know you can take it. Yeah. Yeah. I personally would be. But I think you knock me off. Apparently, you know, I clearly always kill me with a lariat. Yeah. You just kind of welcome. You welcome the challenge, which I think everyone appreciates watching your matches. You know, you're starting about your matches. You said that, you know, the woman Mike is one of your favorites. You have any other favorite matches that one, if people listening to this interview gang to know you, they should go check out. And two that you just absolutely are so proud of in your time, whether it be start, I'm a before. I think I'm going to like give this as an example, like my match with Anna, like I read some comments and she's only like giving her a good match because, you know, you might be watching. But if they go and watch all my matches, like they'll see I put like hundreds and all my matches and I always try making my opponents like look good and like, especially with like someone like Anna, like making her enjoy the experience and getting as much in as she can. Of course. I have like a match with me and this coming weekend. Yep. Yep. Like I'm going to give this match. I'm going to make her look badass, you know. Yeah, I love that mindset, you know, for you, it's about helping your opponent. I think that's awesome. I mean, your match with Anna J. I think everyone should go check that out. I think you two just again clicked kind of in the theme of the show, right? You clicking with your opponent, but you two worked really well together. And I think you kind of opened eyes in terms of for her because, you know, she she didn't have a long run in stardom, but she clearly, I think benefited from wrestling with you and Shuri and Sayori and start like kid and so on. So, yeah, everyone should go check that out from the five star Grand Prix. Let's talk about that five star Grand Prix, six matches, 15 days, six tournament matches specifically. So this is a grueling tournament. You have, it felt like there was a stardom show every day in the month to August, just as a viewer, because I was like, okay, go watch this. Days off because the schedule was so hectic. It was like, you can have the day off. It's okay. Rest. I was like, yeah, thank you. Yeah, so that kind of like, how do you prepare for a tournament like that mentally, like, if it's just because it's, you know, you wrestle every week, of course, but there's something about the added value, the added intrigue and excitement and pressure, I think, of a tournament match. And especially the five star Grand Prix, which is, you know, the biggest women's wrestling tournament in the world. Do you feel, did you feel pressure going into your first one, or was it more of just again? Getting ready for every singles that was coming up for me. I always, like, if I haven't prepped myself towards the match, the pressure would be like eating me alive. Mm-hmm. Of course. It was like, I remember my, my favorite reaction was me saying I was like, main eventing was sorry. I was like, sure. I was like, a cutter. You trust me? You've made it to the, you've made it to the lot over the past couple months. I think the trust is clear. Yeah. Good match for everyone, I guess. Yeah, which is great, obviously. Like, there's a lot of trust there. There's a lot of belief. How, how is the physical toll throughout? Because you're, like I said, you're wrestling the likes of Starlight Kids, Ariana, Shuri, you know, it's, it's not an easy tournament. Do you, do you feel like, do you welcome the new challenges every day of the opponents and? Like my book, are we talking how my body handles up? Yeah, like, just your body, like, it's a lot. And I feel like tournaments. Yeah. Everyone's taped up by the end. Right. That's how I was thinking. But I've only been here like full time mode of an age. Yeah. So I feel like to be speaking on the body part, because I, I exercise and I eat good and like, of course. So I, I don't think it takes a toll on my body, but I will take up. So I think, I think, because I'm so new out of steel, my body will be fresh. Sure. Maybe. We'll take it. I mean, like, it's, it's a rough, like, I forget who's like, Mike is always taped. Like, Mike, I feel so bad for Micah, because like she's always really taped up. I was, I'm like, what's wrong? I'm like, I think she keeps going out there. So she, you know, she's, she's good to go. And then, let me, let me ask you this, what was your favorite match of your first run in the five star. Me and Mariah. Oh, I'll be in Shuri. Me and Mariah means, but Shuri. Okay. Okay. No, that, that makes, that clicks. Yeah. And did you feel proud of what you accomplished within the five star this year? You know, like I said, six term matches. You know, a strong record. So it's good to hear that you were, you know, kind of proud of what you put out there and, you know, being in two Cinderella's now as well. You're checking all the boxes. Who do you want to, who do you want to team with the tag league? Micah. Yeah. That makes sense. You go, Sam, my matching key with me with her new red pants. She has the crisscross. So I've got the crisscross here. Yeah, it's very, it's very similar. I like it. Obviously, Micah won the goddess tag league last year. So you do have to run it back now. You go run it back, go win some bag belts, of course. But even, even Waka would be like, entertaining with me. Yeah. Yeah, you and Waka, like, you guys are very fun in there. Like, it's very fun trade off because Waka's very, Waka's very good at just, like, being comedic. I think Lady C used to do that with her. I think she used to swing Waka into people. Like, she'd do the swing. I have a man with Waka, where I kick her up from a Casey Dora. But sometimes Waka doesn't run into, like, so it's just me picking her wrong. I just don't like to say that I was all year old. I'm like, I know her. That's amazing. Alright, well, Waka also helps me a lot. She speaks English. Yes, of course. I was going to, that was like, you know, one of my last questions here, like, who has helped you learn just within the stardom along the way we talked about Mina, we talked now Waka. You know, do you just feel you learn whether it's teaming with your fellow stablemates or stand across the ring from the Sherries and the psychomatones and, well, we want more of the psychomatones match obviously the eaters like, do you learn as well from them? Do they, you know, do they help you as well in there? You know, just because I think you two, you know, putting together a match, right? You're learning together about each other. So, like, I think sometimes it's just like, what do you do and how can I get out of it? And then we come up with random shit. That's awesome. That's awesome. I like that. I like that better than just like, what is the best thing you do? Okay, this is what I do. Let's just go up there and do it. I will say, like, sometimes, like, I don't want wrestling that much. So I don't like steal ideas or anything. Like, I can tell this from my man. So a lot of the times it'll be like, like, how can we do this? How can we both end up here? Yeah. And I have to sit in the ring to do it. So I can picture me, like, running as a ghost. I like that. Speaking about Daga one more time, I had to ask this. Dream tag team match. You and Daga versus who? Someone asked him this and he's like, let me ask her and get back to you. I was like, so he was like, I don't know. And I was like, I don't know, too. How about when he comes home, we make a tweet about it? All right. All right. Everyone has to look out for that. Everyone has to see what the three tag matches. That's funny. I mean, it's obviously hard because, you know, you both work for different companies. You got to piece it together. What makes the most sense? So I guess that's fair. And my final two questions, we talked about the chops and how much the fans in Japan love it. How has the fan support in Japan been for you? Because I think, I think a lot of foreigners, you know, you guys gain so much fandom and these, you know, these crowds love you guys. And how has that been for you, whether it be, you know, in the venues or on social media? I think social media, it's very good. Like, they're very, like, they interacted with me on social media. When it's like fan event signings, I think the perfect schedule boss. I don't know if it's a language barrier, if they can't speak to us or if they're just like, um. But I'll have black enix in these other fans that you come to me, I'll be like, why could please translate for us so we can have a conversation. Yeah. I think that plays a factor. But wrestling in front of the Japanese crowd is like my absolute favorite. Like, they're so respectful. They're like, they cheer when they need to. Like, it's just a different ball game here with the wrestling crowd. Yeah. I think I think a lot of wrestlers who go to Japan, they just, you know, there's something so cool about feeling that respectfulness and then then they get so into it as well. Yeah. There's nothing like it. There's nothing like a Japanese crowd. So I love to hear that from you. But my final question for you before we wrap this up. Moving forward, you know, you've won the artist belts, you've been in the five star grand prix, you've been in the Cinderella. What are your goals moving forward in wrestling, whether it be stardom wrestling as a whole? What are your top goals as you move forward here in your career? Here in my career, I think stardom's going to be my home for a while. I really enjoy it. And I love it. Much being in here. I think my personal goal would be to hold a singles title and start under. Okay. I like that. I like that. And you'll take any time, you know, high speed, world, wonder. I think, you know, in the history of stardom foreigners, you know, they've held those top belts. So, I think, I think the more you stay, the more likely it is, you're taking one of those. And I like your mind. I like your mindset. I like your mindset. I'll take any of them. No matter which one I'll take. I'll take one of them. My homework. And you've shown, like, you know, we talked about through the interview, you've done the world title match. You've done the high speed match. It can be any of them. Next next one. High speed. High speed. Was it high speed? Yeah, high speed. Why not? My next match will be a even higher high speed. I guess, I guess, yeah, I mean, you step in there with, like, an osmie, or star, like kid, or, again, may Sarah. You guys just go now. You know, it's like, you have the high speed experience. It's fine. You step in there, be like nothing. Which, again, great job. But, you know, high speed looks so difficult. Because you guys are going, going, going. My dear. I, I don't. I said it's true. You know, you're talking about how you put. I got like three bottles of water. Like you, you're talking about putting mattress together. What do you do? I do all of these things. I feel like that's what, like, you and may Sarah, you know, you guys killed it in the main event, the core of it. So. You want to speak on the mic? No, I cannot breathe. I need to get your. I guess, I guess I do have to ask that. What was more tiring the high speed match that, you know, it was shorter in time, but, or the world title match where you and like, you know, again, start each other for 20 minutes. The high speed match was way more hosting. But I think the title match was more like. Like on the body exhausting. Yeah, yeah. I can believe that. Well, thank you so much for taking time out of your day to do this interview. I greatly appreciate it. Where can everyone find you, whether it be social media, your YouTube channel, so that they can follow along with everything you have going on. DMX on YouTube. I think Instagram and Zaina per. Okay. And then my Twitter. Zina. I'll check. I think I can check for you right now. It's at start. I'm underscore and zina. I changed that. Okay. Yes. So I was double checking before we had our conversation. I was like, did she? Oh, she changed her at. Okay. Yeah. Once once you said it, like way back, it's like, you know, every other app doesn't let you change it. Yeah. But thank you so much, Zina. Oh, just smash my mic. Everyone. I appreciate it. Everyone could check out. Zina on stardom world. That's where all her stardom matches are posted. And then this coming weekend. Is namba grand fight. 2024. We're, you know, we'll be taking on Rian as well as Micah challenging tan knock in. Oh, for the world of stardom championship and not support challenge defending the wonder of storm pedal against a Zuki. So everyone go check that out. They'll be available on pay per view. Once again, zina. Thank you so much. For for Fightful. I'm Scott and we are signing off. So long, everybody. Bye. Bye. (silence) Elections belong to voters, not political parties. We pay for elections. They should belong to us. 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