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Gwynn & Chris Sept. 20th Hour 1: Ohtani makes history

Tony & Skraby discussed Shohei Ohtani's historic performance and whether or not they'd give back his ball had they caught it in the stands.

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What's good San Diego welcome in to Gwen and Chris Tony Gwen Jr. Matt Scravey, Chris Ello out and join a little vacation time Adam Klug on the ones and twos back in the studio. It is a Friar Friday this day and what better day last Homestand last series of the year at home and our Friar Friday guests will be none other than Manny Machado. So Scravey's gonna have to do some some kind of aerobics to get from where he is down to the dugout where we'll conduct the interview there. But first I'll welcome in my co-host Matthew Scravey. How are you today Manny? You doing all right? You keeping it together? I'm sweaty Tony I'm just gonna I'm not gonna lie I'm sweaty it is it is I don't know how Sam does this with like a jacket on in a long shirt because I'm wearing a short sleeve shirt and it's been a lot so far but I am really happy to be here it hasn't been a while it's been a while since I've been down here for like a a real legit show from the stadium. Real legit show is what you have today with myself and we have the Padres in action against the White Sox and you know I know the kind of heart burn that is somehow giving everybody out there that the worst human baseball could come in here and actually know how to play baseball. We'll see how it all we'll see how it all unfolds. Padres two games up coming into tonight's action ahead of the Diamondbacks who have the second spot. The Mets have opened up a two-game lead on the Atlanta Braves who are chasing the last spot so lots of good things going on. I think we kind of have to start somewhere else than the Padres right now. I mean they had an off day certainly Joe Musgrove takes the toes to rubber today we'll get into that but last night history was made. Shohei Otani goes 50-50 and he didn't just say all right I'm gonna get my two homers and and to and on my end of the day he goes six for six three homers a double are two doubles right and a single so this is truly like MLB the show like on on like rookie level like where you know the the the the cylinder thing is like super big no matter where they throw it it's like a homer I promise you the the record tying homer I swear he just he flicked that ball the other way all the way into the back end of the seats there it was ridiculous it seems like he does that to every homerun though I feel like he's he's gotten off his ace wing more than I feel like anybody in the league this year like what I mean by ace wing is like everything is matched up perfectly like you hit the ball as hard as you can you you timings right I feel like he's done that more often than anybody else this year yeah Adam's got the third homerun ready to go on the screen let's let's check this one now and see how far he hit the smart much in this guy oh my gosh so hey Otani the greatest day in baseball history now you might be you you might be saying to yourself man that seemed over to top but it really wasn't by that time it was literally his third homer of the game he had touched a little bit of all of the stadium in this in this particular ball game and at one point they panned over to my man's skip shoe marker who was you know you know now we got like real we got lip readers everywhere everywhere so apparently he basically was like bleep that I got too much respect for this man to to do that bleep you know what I'm saying yeah and so basically you know there's been some talk why didn't he walk him I mean guys if it would have been like a one run game two run game I even grant I even would extend you the courtesy three run game fine but it wasn't they were getting tapped at that point it was 14 to 3 if I'm not mistaken when he hit that homer right there and by the way they added two more three more runs after that so they did um excuse me it was 11 3 so by fault they added six more runs after this homer so you know I just think that you know I think first of all it's not a surprise skip felt that way that is how you know it should be thought of right you know you don't run from a guy when you're up or when you're down nine eight runs at that point you pitch to him you know that the the situation didn't call for an intentional walk but nonetheless show ayotani sets history and it just seemed like all of the kind of small chatter that Francisco Lindor was it all kind of it just got washed away last night like whatever conversations were being had that goes that goes by by now now you heard uh is his name Joe Davis yeah Joe Davis Joe Davis said the greatest day of all time is it like is that just two months you know I'm pretty I'm pretty like uh critical when it comes to like things being said like that I'm not a fan of like going overboard with what's that but I mean three homers two doubles a a single I don't know if he had any bags the fifth two bags 17 total bases in the game he said the wreck he said I said a wreck or I mean created his own club it very well could be the greatest game ever played like in terms of what he did individually that day I noticed I noticed some four homer guys out there which is which is pretty cool uh but I mean that's good as you know he was furious right now six for six and he was showing you a little bit of everything he had in his bag all right get you a couple doubles throw you a couple homers still you a couple of bags only thing he couldn't do was pitch and if he was healthy we might have got a dose of that too yeah I was reading earlier because we talked about it in studio in the commercial break and I was like well Acuna went 40-70 last year why why isn't Acuna being celebrated more for that because it's 20 more steals in Chiho Tani and obviously less home runs but so I found an article from someone out there and they were saying that major leaguers likened the gap from 30 to 40 as a canyon and a gap from 40 to 50 is like the Mount Everest size gap between those two and that's what I was telling you yesterday like the number 50 in terms in baseball terms especially I mean as with regards to homers that's a big deal like 40's big but 50's gigantic you know I'm saying like there aren't very many guys who've hit 50 homers that throughout the history of baseball so that's a that's a huge number and that's why I think it's it's a much bigger deal than 40-70 or whatever it was that Ronald did by the way we got some sound from from my mass skip shoe marker on why he chose to pitch to him you you I think that's a bad move baseball wise karma wise baseball godwise you you go after him and see if you can get him out and I think out of respect for the game we're we're gonna go after him he hit the homerun I mean you know that's just part of the deal he's hit 50 of them he's the most talented player I've ever seen he is doing things that I've never seen done before before in the game and if he has a couple more of these peak years he might be the best ever to play the game so I just yeah as a fan yeah I wish I was in the stands not in the dugout scene but it's um I'm I'm proud of like the guys that were attacking him and not scared of him and um that's that's how you should go after it and then you know he hit hit the homerun I mean I know Vomond didn't want the homerun to be hit but he hit it and um and so yeah it's it was uh a good day for baseball bad day for the Marlins you know but um but a good day for that for uh you know the game of baseball classic I mean that's why that's why he's in the the role that he's I gotta say a lot a bunch of things went through my mind as he was talking about how proud he was of the guys that that attacked him and weren't scared for some for a lot of those guys um they will remember that and they'll be better because of it right uh they'll they'll face I'm sure they're gonna face old Tony again and they're gonna have that in the back of their mind and it'll make them better as they they go for you you can't learn anything by being scared to to go against I mean that's ultimately why we play this game that's why you get to the big leagues that's why you play is you want to measure yourself against the very very best and here's an opportunity even though you could be on clips for the rest of lifetime you still you still are there to compete and so I don't understand I wouldn't I wouldn't be able to to understand someone who was in that position and was scared and like didn't attack yeah I I sometimes think of these things is I know that the guy who threw the pitch doesn't want to be involved with this but at the same time you get to say I mean I know it's not the greatest thing to tell people but at the same time you might be in the history books getting the 50th home run off of one of the best players of all time I still think that's kind of cool even though you gave up to that run if I'm now I'm not like rushing to tell anybody that that was that was me who gave up to Homer but if it comes up I'll be all put my hand up yeah that was like how who did you face in your career you're gonna be like oh well yeah I gave up the 50th home run the show that certainly wouldn't be how it would come up it'd be more like hey man weren't you on the mound that day wouldn't oh Tony hit it yeah and I'm just keeping short and they'd have to keep it in order keep keep digging in order to finally get the answer out I mean it's not it's not a bad yeah I was on the mound that day he's done it to so many people in his career it's not like he's the only guy that's really a tiny bit of home run off that's fine I mean I wouldn't probably I'm sorry it won't be the only Homer he gets off some of these guys but if the conversation came up and it was like I wouldn't be volunteering that information you know I'm saying I do get that because ultimately it's kind of clowning yourself but at the same time I wouldn't be ashamed of it I just wouldn't I just wouldn't be bringing it up on my own anyway I would like to apologize for a tweet I sent last night actually I saw a new term for tweet that I think is hilarious it's called a zit it's an x plus tweet is a zit oh zit okay um I after a show hey hit his third home run I put up I said my goodness show hey save some room for later and I didn't even think about what I was saying but I would like to apologize to the fan base I do not want to say oh yeah I do not want to show him Tony to come here and hit six home runs okay I'm sure I'm sure your mentions were up there I was more concerned about my willy Wonka reference than I was about the outcome of the actual Z so I'm going to apologize for that Z and no bad luck is coming to Padre's way I promise back to our Padres they're in action tonight six forty fireworks here tonight at the at the pet pecko park currently uh what some white sauce getting some early work and I'd like to note that Sam live it had earlier dad who pulled in threw it in the grid uh he said as we entered spring training we didn't know with certainty who would be playing left field and center field every day for the Padres here's what jerks and pro far and Jackson Mira combined combined to produce 47 homers 169 RBI's 287 batting average between the two guys and and you know it is something when you rewind back and think about I don't know that I don't think I don't feel like anybody was in in a panic because it's early in the season but when you go back and the uncertainty of how it looked at the beginning of spring training right you fast forward to like midpoint in spring training the picture be starts to become a little bit clearer and you know you're gonna have Merrill and Jackson right our Merrill and pro far out there right um but then the season happens and they take off like gangbusters and it was just I don't know it just you could not have drawn it up any better between those two guys uh just going back to the very beginning of spring training. I mean if Jackson Merrill in spring training was turning has the entire time and I kept trying to make it a thing and I get it spring training does it mean that what you do in spring training is going to carry over to the regular season but he showed all of us in spring training that he can handle this or at least start the team or start the season on the big league team and he's good he's going to be you know yeah it was a huge huge move for a.J pro or country he's he's certainly good but you we we would be there's just no way that you could base anything off of spring training we see guys kill spring training consistently every year and it looked completely different so you're right he had a great spring but there is no way you could have predicted anything that we've seen all right we've uh rolled through the first segment of the day we'll get to break come back talk some more Padres on the other side plus Manny Machado at some point we don't have an exact time yet but sometime between 2 30 and the time that Mike Schilt is going to speak we will have Manny on the show so sit back relax enjoy more Gwyn and Chris on the other side welcome back in to Gwyn and Chris I am Matt Scravey Tony Gwyn Jr and I are going to be talking to Manny Machado here hopefully before the 3 p.m. hour starts but we will be talking to Manny Machado today we may have a little bit of some moving parts in the show today we may have to hear from Mike Schilt from this morning Ben and Woods they interviewed Mike Schilt so we're going to have to go down we're going to have set up in the dugout it's going to be a nice good sit down conversation with Manny Machado so stick with us today we got a lot of good things planned yes please stick to us a lot of good things planned Manny Machado at some point later on here in the show um I was thinking about this scrape you know Tony's hitting balls into the stands there is one video of the chaos that it ensued on the 50th hmm I know where you're going to come down on this but I'm going to ask anyway okay if you're in the stands and you get an old tawny ball what are you doing are you giving it back oh is there an obligation to give it back are you keeping it and cashing in the uh the the the what is it the Cub Scout in me the honorable person in me says give it back but the greedy selfish person in me says keep it and wait hold up real quick if you're those who are watching on youtube and you're looking at the video right now my man is getting crushed by a table and one of the dudes is like holding the table like in place to keep him from moving further it didn't stop my man he got to that ball you see the bodies that are all on the floor there is the carnice he comes with but here's the question because all of us I think have both of those individuals in us right the the morally sound like do the right thing guy and the greedy guy or good gal which one is going to rule in that moment i mean with two hundred thousand dollars on the line is what i'm reading and what we read going into it i think i'm being the greedy person because that's not just that's not just that's life-changing money for i appreciate your i appreciate your honesty uh on that one what about you i think i'm giving it back man i guess you're a little bit different though you you've been around baseball it's not like 200 grand in your pocket that's a lot of money even for money back over there i can use 200 grand in my pocket like pronto uh i just i i know how much those and maybe 50 50 isn't that big it's different for each guy right i mean maybe that's not the one that he's like oh i gotta have it you know what i'm saying he yeah at this point now it seems like oh time is going to be doing things like this often maybe it's you know palmer number four hundred or whatever it may be maybe it's something along those lines um but i would be inclined to give it back i think i would like to it's the nicer thing to do it's the more decent thing to do now if this guy is being someone who's like i need this this this this and this for you to get your ball back i'm not into that like if you want to pay me some money if you want to if i get to go mito tani or get like you know seats in a in a suite or something like that but if you're going to like demand like some of these guys do with the balls that they catch guys and gals you're going to demand things in amount i mean come on if that's ridiculous you're just out of baseball game the ball happened to find you yeah i'm not a fan of the demanders for the for the record uh my man who caught the ball he has opted to walk away with it so he's gonna he's gonna get that 200 racks that you're talking about they're scraping uh you know did you see on the video where he like got the ball and he put it in the air and then someone tried to grab it i'm like if i get that ball i am putting it somewhere where no one can grab it hey yeah i was about to say it would have been all on him if he got that ball snatched out of his hand after putting it in the air like that like it did you not just did you were you not just in the fight to get the ball do you think it wasn't your neck into the ground back table so that you could get the ball did you not think somebody was going to try to snatch that out of your hand you absolutely right i would have done the same thing yeah that's crazy that's done to let what Adam what is going on with the cameras man you like are having you are having a good old time with the two the three because he his computer has to supply the audio so he has to be on screen but he doesn't want to be on screen with us you got to be on screen today Adam is so good he is always trying to get you guys back to video you were talking i know but i was only like doing this sliding over trying to make sure i'm lined up in the middle yes nevertheless uh by the way since rbi's have become an official thing since in 1920 only one mo b player has had over the course of his career a ten rbi day a six hit day a game with five extra base hits a game with three homers a game with two stolen base you know what that is show here tony show here tony the one guy one guy is every entire history of major league baseball which is incredible all right you know so we get close we get close to the end you know these uh official who they think are going to make the playoffs they start coming up with rankings right and one of the rankings that that posted today was best rotations uh for the playoffs now the good part about this is they already considered apologies as a as a playoff team even though it hasn't officially been clinched yeah um but they rolled through kind of the top pitching staffs uh that you know will be into the playoffs where would you think the Padres are ranked this is a this is a yahoo sports is this in the entirety of entire national and american well no not the rotation only it's everything that's a good question let me check i believe it's everything it is everything okay no let me check computers a little slow today guys i think it's everything because i kind of briefly looked at this earlier no it's not it's not everything it's just a rotation starting rotations oh yeah it says it right there in the url um i would think the Padres would be up there i would like in the top i didn't ask you i need i need a number uh i would say let's see fillies i would say number four close where are they three three behind the fillies and who else oh no i told you my my screen is taking forever to pop up now fillies are one who do you think it's two i'm just gonna say maybe the team that was ashros scrappy you are learning some things my man i mean franber and the bend guy from the other day i didn't remember his last name but yeah and johnson was the same maybe other day i don't know i don't know hunter brown uh brown that's it you say kukuchi uh spencer arageti and uh ronnell blanco who we didn't see in that series and i and i and i skipped verlander because we didn't see him in that series either but um there are two pajris or three they have the pajris as the third best uh rotation and and they only list the four yet they still have them as uh the best rotation they're one of the best rotations out there follow the pajris the braves who very well may not get in yankies at five Mets at six royals at seven Dodgers at eight diamond backs nine milwaukee ten so where are the Dodgers did you say them sorry they're they're nine or no they're nine excuse me they're eight the pajris are three Dodgers are eight diamond backs or nine in terms of starting rotations have uh the person to put together this list that they check and see what the Dodgers had going on in their rotation right now because it's not the greatest of the world who's worse than they are uh diamond backs brewers tigers Orioles twins guardians all right well they have to put the Dodgers in the top center no one's gonna click on the article so that's just how it works that's just how it works they have to put the Dodgers in the top bed oh that's crazy i saw i saw i saw z i know we need to get downstairs but i saw z yesterday from a Dodgers fan saying guys we're not going deep in the playoffs because are we really going to try to make this zik thing like i think i'm trying to make it you're trying to make it happen i do you not like the zik yeah i just did i'm already i'm already tweets already ingrained in me huh i guess i'm just said we don't call it x so why are we calling it a zik because every article you read down that's a good point it's posted on x in parentheses formally normally known every single time like we've been over a year what are we going to stop doing that i've for i definitely noticed that as well all right let's get to break scrappy and i are going to head down uh to the dugout to get ready for this interview meanwhile mike shilt joined been in woods earlier this morning you guys will get a chance to hear that interview on the other side more gwen and chris we are joined by bontrays skipper mike shilt brought to you by sandy area of county credit union it's not big bank banking it is better and off days at home in baseball are very rare with no travel yeah i mean throughout the course of the season you may get two or three of them this late in the season mike i'd imagine that's a that's a valuable day yesterday uh how you doing and how did you how did you spend an off day at home uh yeah it was nice i'm doing well hope you guys are doing well also um yeah no it was a relaxing day um you know caught up on a few personal things that can slip by as the season goes and enjoyed the beautiful san diego weather and um went to michael king and his wife shield was event last night for type one did diabetes they're grazing money for and that was a that was a really well done event for a great calls and and um you know did a line up and got ready for getting ready for today's game now before we get into it woods he doesn't really want to ask you but he's got to bring it up because you've you've been dealing with the rule change i know i know but he doesn't this is actually something he doesn't want to ask all right he's you've dealt with like rule changes in the three batter minimum and everything in baseball so he's he's coaching his little league team and they have played they have laid on this list of rules that he cannot even believe and he needs just some help here he needs some help managing his little league team his pinto league team i've got they've laid these rules on me uh shilty about you know guys have having to play a certain amount in the infield in the outfield and spend time on the bench i just wanted i'll take the pod sunday you take the Durham Bulls uh in lc y o league i don't know that anybody can figure these rules i i i realize and i know you you spent time you know coaching youth uh it at the start of your career what is your advice for burgeoning coaches in the game of baseball six and seven year old uh i think the most important thing is that age they enjoy it you know i think it's really kind and they're different than our guys you know you want them to make sure when they come to practice they come to ball part they're they're excited about it um so i think that starts there if they're not looking forward to it they're not going to enjoy themselves and um you know it's going to be a little bit more of a challenge to whatever you're trying to accomplish but get them to enjoy it um no labels it's really bothers them you know it can happen younger and younger with at the youth levels where young players are being graded and evaluated and cut and we know it's competition but you know the a player b player c player um you know it's interesting when i ran in academy we did some travel teams you know a hundred years ago and we had a really good group we started with a group of 15 year olds because i thought that was time where players were starting to maybe if they were serious about it still with the team and they were wanting to go play collegially you know i'd do my best to help them so we we put together this it's really really good group of players that ended up doing some pretty cool things uh the side board but anyway i got kind of Brian Keegan who at the time was a was an area scattered up in a pro school um with Tampa and um at the time he's with Houston i said hey geeks which you you know you evaluate this group and give me a little bit of a write up on the guys you know so we did a workout he came up to me and says you know i got nothing for you i said you know you're a great evaluator what do you mean he said well yeah i think i'm a pretty decent evaluator and the guy really is a great judge of talent he's rightfully in the profession so he said man for me it's too hard for me to judge what a 15 year old player is going to be and it just resonated with me clearly because here's a guy that's really good at evaluating talent and at 15 he had a hard time identifying players they grow they mature differently and at that point we didn't label anybody we let kids play and um i think it's a real mistake for kids to be i'm only a this i'm only that i can't play this let them play everywhere let them enjoy it let them have good experiences teach off what they can do and then they can learn to think and play for themselves and they'll enjoy it more it's a great answer great answer so so keys will not come out and evaluate the pinto durham bulls on sunday we're not all right then i guess i shouldn't either all right let's start with something kind of let him have gone man you know let him run around i want to start with something kind of fun because i was down there on monday and all of a sudden i look and go that's that's albert pooh yes and and he was there uh with his daughter to see man he played which was cool but i saw you spending some some time with him on the field that you know all that time together in the cardinals organization and i wanted to ask you obviously there were a lot of things that turned albert poos into a hall of famer you know mashing the ball picking it over there uh at first base but what what did you see in albert and then what do you see maybe in some of your own players that makes a guy successful in the big leagues to that to that level to that hall of fame level hunger competitive spirit drive i mean you know talent clearly is there um but you know if you want to put together seasons you want to contribute to winning teams put together season put together career where you stack up numbers and get the most out of your physical bill you give nothing away and um albert was the i mean he a talk to him got to know i'm considering be a really good friend he's a great guy he's a wonderful human being does a lot of great things for community um and charity um but i also learned about watching him and i remember if you wanted second in vp i was just you know i'm always curious i just want to study people because you know people is actually going to be glider than their words um and it's like all right you want a second in vp he's coming to spring train how's he going to go about it and i remember being in the first spring training game and i've gotten to a point in the legally camp where i'd gotten you know a little more comfortable to be around and you know if it was right a passage kind of to get into it but anyway i'm sitting right beside albert and spring training games are starting this is like 2008 or nine whatever year was and um i'm just gonna feel for like okay what's this cat gonna be like you know and he always had his towel of course it was you know even human at that time of year in in march um like march in jupiter and he's just scowing and stalking the picture and you know like i say first spring training game people enjoying it you know having a good time i'd say guys aren't paying attention but it's just you know it's loose and and this guy was absolutely just stalking this dude and he was he gave him nothing away you know watched him it is and you know if you want to find albert that you know it's spring training seven o'clock he's gonna be with day mckay and the cage doing his routine every single day and you walked in and you wanted to watch it it was great but he wasn't gonna be talking he wasn't gonna be hanging out he wasn't gonna be us and he was gonna be working and um he just never gave him any way and we have a lot of players that are that are very similar to that you know they um they love competition and they love you know paying attention to game and seeing the game and getting after it. It's a great answer a great player it was it was j i had no idea he was gonna be there and he walked out and i was like that's the machine and he's right there in front of me you're gonna love this one uh shilty because i got chewed out yesterday on the uh pottery's round table uh by tony gwen jr because i he saw i tweeted about jerks and pro i love pro far so much but i at the bont in the third inning and i and he chewed me out yesterday in the round table i'm ready for you to chew me out here but my question is my question to you is knowing we all know this about pro we know he plays his game we know you let him play his game if there's a situation where pro comes up in that situation again maybe different circumstances you as the skipper would you ever let him know through tim leaper or somebody else don't bunch we don't want you bunny here we want you to swing away pro because we like what you can do or is he just kind of free to roam i guess so tony gwen didn't satisfy your answer yeah i guess i'm a glutton for punishment skiff i guess i don't know man um it's a fair question i'm curious um no i it's i understand the question but i'm going to go back to what i was saying about um and clearly different levels of sure but my encouragement to the youth level your job ultimately is to is to help players understand the game and to teach them the game you know regardless of level you're going to be at six seven-year-olds clearly different um you know teaching level but as you get to higher levels of baseball one of the biggest things you can do because what ends up happening when you let him play the game when you teach through the game is you develop players that are confident and trust themselves yeah and they know that you trust them um the other thing that nothing's in a in a um nothing's absolute in this game and that's and that's where i think we can get in trouble not to say this is always the right way what i'm telling you i'm just telling you what way i see the world and it's worked for me um and when i say nothing everything can look the same but the beautiful thing about the game is the the the depth of layers that go in into divisions and so when people look at something and every situation in an absolute way like he can't bump there he shouldn't be bumping there he should be doing that you're why um yeah that's that's fair that's a fair question i can understand the why he asked the question but if you look up and recognize like i don't live in pro forest body sure but drax you know pro as you most people know played in two literally world series championships right one one lost one okay so when he was 11 and 12 he was 11 and 12 he's been playing high level competitive meaningful top of the level that he's at baseball games and he's been doing that since he was 11 and 12 years old so he's been doing that for 20 years right there's some intuition about the game that takes place after that period of time right um i don't see this guy very well i'm not feeling as good um i've got some intuition about Valdez being a guy that's really tough um you know he's on the ground a lot um he's tough to he's tough to score on we want to get an early lead we got a good bullpen um so all these factors and then like i said how he sees him how he feels um how he knows the guy behind him so he's the bat so all these are are pretty big barrels by the way the guy behind him is his main um that day um so you know those are the things that when you know you have intuitive players that know the game see the game and i say this a lot championship players think and do for themselves then that trust factor allows them to be free and play and not get on him and later and be like well i don't see that guy i'm not saying that was a case of pro floor but yeah um and then there is discussions there's always discussions you know going into games you know and players have a game plan and you know that's the thing is it's beautiful about it is it's situational and there's communication about what and why so longer answer your question but it's a great answer yeah and i think it makes a lot of sense because woods you've been doing radio for a while now and you've probably had someone who said hey the numbers tell you you should be teasing this in this segment you go i know though i know my audience i know better and you do it your way sure someone will criticize it's not how you should do it woods but you do it your way because you know because you have the experience and i think that's what uh what mike is saying i i and that's the heart but everything is also um can be challenging right as you do something that you know tony would say you know manage with your gut don't cover your butt you know what based on your experience or a player knows and you trust the player to go perform yeah um and you know it doesn't always work out and but the second you do something that's against some kind of perceived norm or absolute or is you open yourself up and that's it you know that's the that's the gig man but you know the multiple layers of understanding the why is is really where we were where i live at least it's such a great uh lead-in i guess shelter to the pad is that you know a team you'll see it and i don't want to name any uh of teams but we've all seen it like the team will play a certain way in the regular season and then the playoffs come and obviously i've got no idea uh we have no idea what it's like to play or manage in a game of that that much magnitude and pressure how i guess tempting is not the right word but i got maybe how tempting is it to to tighten up a little bit while you know you got to stay loose as the skipper they got to stay loose as players but obviously the pressure is on how hard is it to continue to play a little free and easy when you know the clock strikes october i yeah it's a fair question and it's not not saying it doesn't happen it's not you know it's not a challenge but what i look for every day whether it's the first game in so korea or a game in april or may or whatever that i prepare every day like it's a playoff game like my preparation will not change today or two weeks from now or the end of october um the game's a game i owe the opportunity every day to to be fully prepared and to stay present and to compete in the moment and to take it all with the you know every situation be on task and on point and that way when you get to you know big moments or big games or whatever the case may be you just normalized you know the game yeah and you know playing the game and doing what the game calls for is as toddy talks about when you do that you just give off the competition then that's all you can do you know i mean it's it's people like you know you want to bring more you want to do more you gotta do more because you know man you just you do it all year you do it every day you do it every every circumstance and you just like i say you normalize the excellence though be prepared and and i'm regardless of a situation i mean that's i owe that to the club and owe it to to the you know people that show up and support us and owe it to the organization to to be on point at every turn and you know that's that's your that's regardless of of circumstance that being said this is the last thing for me knowing that you're preparing for tonight you know playoff game one at a time you're just trying to win as many as possible at this time of year i'd imagine you have to have some forethought you know with what is coming up playoffs setting up making sure guys are set up and ready for a big series what are those conversations like in terms of strategic planning and as you now get close to october um we haven't accomplished anything yet you know so you know we just keep keep moving the moving down the run you know keep keep playing it keep going about it there will be a time soon that you know we're uh looking forward to that you know now you start to have a more clarity of what what the picture looks like but but right now it's um this play today good after today and shake hands into the day not yet all right that's fair enough all right good luck this weekend i know you i don't have to worry that you're taking we don't even have to ask you we know you're taking the white Sox as serious as you'd be taking the Dodgers or any other teams so good luck this weekend against the white Sox it's been an incredible season especially at home i know the fans i want to just kind of say thank you this weekend it'll be big crowds and everything so what a fun year this has been and we'll talk to you next week when you guys are getting ready for that last series in Arizona sounds great appreciate that there is skipper mike shilt our managers report