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9.19.24 Gwynn & Chris Full Show
What's up San Diego welcome into Gwyn and Chris - to Chris Tony Gwyn, Jr. Matt Scrabe in short show today Thursday night football follows We're on with two guys until 4 30. I believe correct Patriots Jets to follow But we'll start with the Padres plus we have a fantastic guests coming on at some point Probably in the next segment Steven Strasburg As tech for life joins us in the next segment, but we must start with the Padres Padres coming off of a Terrific two of three series victory against the Houston Astros It was playoff baseball in September basically that's all the Astros kept saying the entire time they were in town I mean first of all San Diego you guys brought it. It was a sold out capacity each of the three now each of the three days Padres got victories on Tuesday, you know Monday and Wednesday. Sorry. I'm forgetting what day it is And they did it First night it was really no drama Second night little a lot of bit of drama and then yesterday drama from this good drama for the Padres Oh, I thought Manny Machado is is really I think he's really showing why he's the guy on this team right now. He's really started to pick it up and carry this offense and when I say carry I don't literally mean carry because there's a bunch of guys doing good work right now on that offense But as I've said from the very beginning of season when Manny go so does this Padres baseball team and right now there aren't very many better We had a back to back to back to back home run home run situation Tati Machado Donnie barrels capped it off with his with his homer and A lot to like the other season really was lined up to have another complete game Got a little got away. It didn't really get away from him got away from the defense a little bit bogey Kick that ball into the outfield. He just booted into the outfield kind of took its way his chance to have that complete game But nonetheless once again Fantastic time through on the starting rotation Dylan C starts this next time through yesterday's game another brilliant performance And I think straight be the thing that is pretty apparent when the Padres get good starting pitching Games are a lot easier for them. That doesn't mean they won't win the other ones But they win a lot easier when they get good starting pitching I mean They just held the Astros to very few runs and the Astros have one of the best line-ups in the entire base entire major league baseball Like what they did this week was not like something that was lucky They proved that they could go toe to toe with a team like the Astros And I keep seeing out all the talking heads saying that this is the World Series preview Astros and Padres So, you know, let's talk about that because you know, I saw what Manny said and I didn't necessarily take it as Prediction as as everybody else did we should let everybody know what he said. That's a slim plate. Let's play four. Oh, I don't have it Oh, I thought you I thought you said it up like you're about the oh, no, okay Yes, no, he he said that they're gonna see each other again this season He and they were like you should find a sound so we can play it exactly how he said it because I don't think he meant it Like, you know, we're definitely gonna be there again But it was just more of highlighting the fact that that team is is a playoff caliber team and the Padres This isn't the first team They've been able to do that against either by the way I mean, they've played some good teams really throughout this second half at different points and have seemingly come out on top Or at least split in almost all of those cases. So Padres get the victory yesterday. They have the off day today. They'll resume tomorrow Against the Chicago White Sox and I know I've seen it on Twitter There are a bunch of people paranoid that the Padres are gonna take a break as the White Sox come to town with The worst record in baseball now. They won a couple games here as of late. So At least history won't be happening on our watch, you know, they can't lose 120 by the time they get to San Diego or San Diego even with a sweep can't get them there, but It's certainly something that I think is on the on the tops of people mind I think they start thinking Colorado Rockies when all of a sudden the the White Sox show up to town scrape. Yeah, I I'm kind of with everyone. Oh, you're one of those. Yeah, I'm a little nervous about it because it seems like This team's way different as I've been saying the last couple weeks, but it seems like the Inferior teams give them a hard time, but I don't believe that's gonna be the case this time I mean, there's two locked into it. I don't actually think that's the case anyway I think that is your emotions kind of oh, it's definitely my emotions But what happens the Rockies came to town early in the year swept the Padres and then they went to Colorado And then won the parole to give up a bunch of runs. It seems to happen against these teams all okay I'll say this and what a hundred and fifty two games now fifty hundred and fifty three games now Has the Padres not showed you that they can take care of business when they're supposed to yes except against the Rockies Yeah, pretty much they swept the pirates. They took the sweep the Dodgers earlier this year here I think they did it was two game series. I think they swept up. They swept Miami I mean they beat up on with the exception of the Rockies They beat up on all the the bad teams. They went to Tampa did the same thing and I Qualifies this year. Yes, I would agree. We're not talking about last. I have baggage Tony. We've talked about this I got baggage from previous years come on. I mean clearly I was doing postgame on the 21 year where they lost a bunch of games three years ago, bro I know I need to get over it. Yeah, you gotta move on. Yeah, Manny didn't actually there's no audio of it That's why I kind of panic there for a second, but In print so I'm trying to find the exact quote nonetheless. Oh wait, here we go. I think I think you have it right here. I Don't think I do he said we're gonna see them again. Yeah, they're a really good ball club and how we played the last few days I mean, it's a little taste of it. I Don't know that that's a prediction like we're going to the World Series. It's almost like yeah I mean we could see them again Yeah, I don't think it was him proclaiming from the rooftops that the the Padres are gonna be in the World Series But I don't mind this man I don't either. I don't either when he said Manny I'm Manny bleeping Machado People gave him crap for it, but then he ended up turning it around same with this year I am full on Manny Machado mode. Well, I'm glad you decided to Look at the back of his baseball card and realize I was never pan. I'm just saying it seems like you kind of were Fernando Totties Jr Has returned he had his fifth homer in yesterday's game now. We're talking magic numbers now the Padres magic number I believe to get the home-filled advantage via wild card is eight They win knows they win they get to eight that means they will host and they can get there with you know Losses from the Diamondbacks wins from them. You get to you get you gained two on that So this could happen quick. It could it could drag out to the very end That last series of the years certainly could hold even more weight cuz what's also at stake in that series is there is no definitive Tiebreaker on this one to pod they haven't played that series will decide the tiebreaker for the two That's that's also remember. That's a change from a couple years ago. There's no more 100 game 163. You got to finish it When the schedule ends I heard you and Don talking about that yesterday about how crazy it was that there was a one-game Play-off for some teams after a full season of 162. Yeah, it's good one shot It's funny now that we've been in this kind of format the last three years This is the it will be the third year It's really hard to imagine how we ever got to a point where we had a one-game playoff like Play all those games and then one game since you could send you pack in That's that's rough. That is rough. That's rough man, but nonetheless Padres magic number eight Looks like the Mets and D-backs are 12 and the Braves are 15. So There's not that many games Magic number for those guys like that the Mets are really annoying me I just I because they're just like pesky like they were so they were done earlier in the year and then they When I run people said they were done People would not if they went on a run and now they're looking at a wild card spot and they're not going away to Get the brace two games. I believe or three games ahead of the Braves two or three games ahead of the brains I'm not afraid so it may have changed a little bit the Reds were officially eliminated Tony if you needed to know that Yeah, I didn't because I assume that I assume that much there they're a game and a half back right now from the man so That one will continue to Develop here over the next few days as I said the Padres off today. We got Thursday night football jets new England Ah, I don't know how I feel about this game New England. Are they any good? They won they're one in one took Seattle to overtime jets are one in one jets are one-in-one. They beat Will Levis That's not really hard to do cuz you know, you mayonnaise man throwing a ball around I can't I believe that guy drinks his coffee with mayonnaise and that's not a joke. It's not a joke. It's really disgusting So you got that more baseball, but up next we're gonna get to break Steven Strasburg He'll join us to talk a little bit about what he's got going up on the Mesa Talk a little bit of what's happening in Major League baseball would check in with him to see what's going on with him and his fam More going to Chris on the other side 2 17 on the clock Tony good jr Matt Scrabie and now Steven Strasburg joins us here on Gwen and Chris and Steven and I go back a little bit of ways he played for my pops of San Diego State as you guys know, you know what you were supposed to Play the call when when you came in when we came in right there scrape. You know what I was supposed to play the call I got a lot going on right now Baseball the break I'm like this is this is really fun. We play this call often when When Chris is in the building. He's not in the building, but I feel like he would want us to play it for at least one time That's all we have to so we have I told you that We play this all the time because that was when you had the no-hitter and Chris was on the call I'm gonna go find the full call, but it's uh, it's something that Chris loves All that's one of his best memories. So welcome to the show Stephen. How you been man? I've been good Yeah, I just moved back here end of May so kids are getting settled into school and Yeah, it's it's just great being closer to family and you know, I think my heart's always been here in this in this city I mean obviously Being that you just moved back. I'm sure you've caught some of the wind of what's going down at Peko Park I mean, you're still you know relatively close removed from from this game But I'm sure you've been able to catch a little bit of it. What's been your thoughts? Watching the Padres do their thing. Yeah, I mean the the energy that's surrounding this town reminds me a lot of 2019 You know one of the one of the amazing things about everything that I was going through at the end of my career is that there Was just it made me realize how impactful that run was to the community and to kind of see You know the excitement see the sellout crowds on TV My nieces and nephews are all like hey turn. Let's turn on the Padres game You know, it's pretty special and you know, I think they're they're right in the thick of it here and you know We were talking earlier. I mean, it's October's already started for him. Yeah, you know, I'm kind of excited to plug in and watch from afar I think you know to your point, you know, you go back to 2019 and you guys go on that run If those who may not remember that year you guys got off to a pretty slow start and it came on late Just talk a little bit about Once it changed over for your guys as a team The energy that begins to build just talk a little bit about that as it and I'm bringing that up because we're watching a Padres team that seemingly kind of has Whatever it is that it factor. They have it right now. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think you know There was other years 2012 Was it 2014 like where we won the division and we had that by and like that was really hard because you weren't you know, we won it and we had regular season to play and then we had a buy and Now with this structure, it's kind of like you're have to be playing your best baseball right to the finish You know when we got the wild card game in 2019, you know, we I mean that rebound really started months earlier and it came to came to the point where we had just great Veterans on the team who really brought everybody together and we just pulled for each other. We were having fun We didn't know what was gonna happen We didn't know if we were gonna get in if we were gonna keep going It was just one pitch at a time and that was the goal It was just are we gonna win pitches? Are we gonna play the game the right way and really looking at that as a way to springboard and then, you know Go figure it takes one bad hop with Grisham, right and then it was like the rest is history So I mean you talk about one pitch, you know at a time I mean that's we pretty much hear that for Mike Schill on a daily basis I think people get frustrated with it But it's really how you have to look at things when you get to this time of year. We'll get to some more baseball stuff You know major league baseball stuff You're gonna be with us for a little bit. I want to talk a little bit about what has your attention now I mean both of us are our proud Aztecs and the college structure in itself is beginning to change a little bit and Just kind of talk a little bit about what? You've got going on what you're passionate about right now because I think it's it's pretty important Yeah, I think all this time, you know being on the east coast and being focused on my own career You know, I took a lot of pride I think one of the things the most often asked questions that I got as a professional from you know fellow teammates was What was it like playing for Tony Gwen? and I think that impact was really on a national stage and then you kind of see, you know the basketball program doing really well and You know, I was you know, there was I played with a lot of guys from SEC schools who showed that kind of pride And I think for me My parents being alumni coming from here getting a chance to play for my favorite player all time There's a desire in my heart to really, you know, help get help the baseball program in whatever way I can and You know, it's it's gonna be a multifaceted approach and I think the NIL Era is has a lot of influence and we'll see how it all shakes up but right now it's just trying to re-engage with the alumni get them back together and Seeing where we can take this thing I I'm firm believer that all the pieces are in place for the San Diego State Baseball to be a national contender yearning you're out Yeah, I mean it's something I think we've all at least thought at some point at while we were there and Since we've been gone because there's no doubt the talent is is is here now Sean Cole is the the head coach at San Diego State We had him on last week to talk a little bit about the decision for the Aztecs to move to the Pac-12 Which we'll start here what 2026. I believe it is. Yeah, twenty six twenty twenty six Have you had conversations with with with with a coach Cole? Yeah, I've had a a lot of lengthy Conversations with Sean and I think his heart's in the right place and you know I really believe that you know He really wants to see this program get to the next level and that's all you can really ask for is Somebody who's committed to the program and that who wants to be there like this is their dream job You know, I know it was Tony's dream job and I think that's what the program deserves You know, as far as as far as my involvement. I kind of just told him. I said, hey, like I'm moving back I got you know three girls and I'm busy with that But if you need me to come down and work with some guys, I'll be there and really for me It's just about creating this this infrastructure this network and getting these guys back connected That's one thing that you know one thing I looked forward to for years Was that you know season was over whenever it was then I'd come back and I'd be there for the Aztec baseball Golf tournament and I get a chance to see a bunch of guys and then you know a couple years ago I started to hear that I was like, oh, we weren't they're not doing it anymore and so that's that's why I kind of decided to like springboard it myself and you know, we're we're starting one on November 15th out at Steel Canyon and Really just trying to get the community back involved and get give them a chance to know the current program and support that program November 15th you guys heard it that I will certainly be there This is a for for Aztecs out there This is important and I think the thing that you and I have spoke about on a couple different occasions But it spoke about a little bit earlier before we came on. This isn't you're looking for small small dollar donors in this we're not It's not a you know pull out your checkbook and give us whatever give us everything that you got this is This is kind of how some of these NIO programs are built is off of these small dollar Kind of donations correct. Yeah, I mean San Diego stayed. There's 500,000 living alumni and I would like to think growing up here in San Diego. I obviously know how impactful your dad's legacy is and Super special for me to be able to give back and hopefully Get Tony Gwen Stadium in a place that really honors his legacy and that's the ultimate goal for me right now Is to you know have something there to give back to the current players and set them up for success in the long term We'll do our best to get the information out, you know moving forward, but Certainly something I think both of us find important and and we'll keep pushing To try to keep the word going now Let's talk a little bit about your experience at San Diego State because clearly it's it's pretty important to you I think it's part of the part of the reason why you decided to make this move Talk a little bit about your time at San Diego State and and and why it was so Impactful and important to you. Yeah, I mean it was there was a major transfer transformation that happened when I was there You know growing up as a as a kid my dad would always take me to San Diego State baseball game So I mean I remember you know when deets was coaching there. I remember watching you Royce ring and herring all these guys that you just kind of like idolize as a kid and To have that opportunity number one to wear the red and black and number two to play for Your dad who was my favorite player and my freshman year was the year he got inducted in the Hall of Fame You know, it's just it's really near and dear to my heart You know, and I think I think the San Diego community as a whole, you know, they're very much attached to Tony Gwen he's kind of synonymous with San Diego and You know, I think just coming back here. It just shows that you know baseball Like this is a baseball town now. Yeah, you know, I was on the east coast Chargers left and you know, even you know, I played fantasy football now, and it's like, you know I'm not really like a Chargers fan. Even though I like the Harbaugh hire but you know, this is a baseball town and I'd like to think that San Diego State baseball is You know almost like the little brother of the Padres and especially with that connection to Tony talk about your transformation Because I don't think a lot of people know this. I mean, I think a lot of people came on to this scene when you were, you know Sophomore junior and you were making all the noise, but it wasn't easy for you when you got to San Diego State No, and I mean it's it just goes down to the culture that your dad created You know, I was coming as a freshman. I was like 30 pounds overweight I mean, I was I wasn't a terrible high school player. My numbers weren't very good but, you know, I went from 88 to 90. I feel like I could command the baseball command a breaking ball and Just literally got punched in the face week one Never worked out before This is no joke, and it was the easy route would have been like this just isn't for me But you know, I one of the guys that was really influential when I was there was Bruce Billings He was a senior at the time, and I distinctly remember this moment where you know I'm throwing up in the ice plane. I'm not getting through the running and these upperclassmen are They come over and like they're like they're carrying me they're carrying making sure I finish the lap and You know that was really eye-opening to me because that's like the true sense of team Yeah, is that you know, you're only as strong as your weakest link, and I didn't want to be that weak link I wanted to prove to them that I was there for them And I had their back and that's where we're really motivated me to just put in all the extra work And you know those are things that you can control like I can't control that you know that led to me throwing much harder And that you know, but at the same time. It's like you know you have to look back on every single Moment in your playing career and just ask yourself did I do everything that I possibly could right? And if you if you honestly say you did then you can live with the outcome That is is such an interesting thing because even the part after you decide it I didn't want to be the weak link it still was some time in between that time and the guy you became the following year, correct? Yeah, I mean they you know rusty filter was there and You know it started out. I remember we went up to like Cal Poly San Luis Obispo for a three-game series I didn't have a role and You know, we kind of got knocked around up there And then you know Bruce Billings was the closer at the time and then they basically made the choice like he needs to come back in the rotation and Rusty told me he's like hey, I think you're gonna you're gonna be our closer and I don't care like we're not pulling the job from you you go out there and give it everything you have and It really just helped me slowly. I'm not at the time. I didn't understand it Yeah, there's things out there that you can control as a pitcher How you you know, how you go about your business out there, you know your mountain presence? That was a big thing that you know they were working on me with it wasn't just results based right the results were gonna be what they're gonna be and One of the things that I really you know He they harped on me was just keeping the team in the ballgame not trying to be perfect They didn't expect me to go out there and strike out the side every time It was just doing the little things attacking the strike zone all the things that you you can do on a daily basis And then you can just live with the results. Sometimes they'll be good Sometimes they won't but that's that's baseball and you know, that's you know, I guess a thing that really I leaned on You know in 2019 as well. It kind of really stuck with me all those years Stephen Strasburg with us for at least another segment. We're gonna get into more baseball a lot of a lot of new questions about baseball that I haven't got a chance to talk to you about that I want to kind of get your perspective on what talking more Padres a lot more to come here on Gwen and Chris Yes, indeed that was the no hitter thrown by Stephen Strauss, but what year is that? Nine that was my last my last start at Tony Gwen stadium 2009 You know what I remember about that year was I got traded from Milwaukee to San Diego that year and I remember like the first It might so it would have been in May, which I think would have been Post-season for you. I think you guys played Virginia. Yeah, I think we I think you started the day I got my first start as a Padre on the road in Colorado But he had it up on the screen and you know, it was going well when I walked out and he came back I'll never forget I didn't give up not to to my own heart and too much I didn't give up very many home runs in college But one of them my last one was to fill Gosselin in that Virginia game and he like hit the scoreboard on it And I always tell myself like oh that guy made the big leagues like he must have been pretty good Yeah Yeah, Steven Strasburg joins us here just talking a little bit about San Diego State and some of the things he has going and of Course the Padres and everything they have gone Right now in the midst of I think one of their best seasons It may not end up that way in terms of how many wins the Padres end up getting this year I think the the record is 98 or 99 the 98 team. I think has the most wins in franchise history Obviously, you know, they can't get there. I mean, they could if they went out, but I Still think this is gonna go down as one of the better seasons from start to finish Steven you grew up here in San Diego. You obviously spent your entire career with the Nationals Are you torn at all watching these games? I mean, there's I know there's a closet Padre fan in there as there was for me as you because you know you're no longer playing. Yeah, yeah, I think You know when it gets to this time of year you just start to Follow the teams that are kind of like I can I can imagine that they're going through what we went through Yeah, and you know, you pull for them. I mean, I'm always I mean, I was an underdog, you know, I pull for the underdog So I think watching this it just really brings back those really vivid memories and how you know it's it's almost like you remember the feeling but you don't remember anything's any specific thing that happened and you know that that kind of like gets the juices flowing for me just watching these games here and you know, they have a good test coming up and But you know, I mean, that's that's playoff baseball, you know, it starts now and you know, it's all about doing like the little things I think you know from my experience. It was, you know teams change like the top teams the ones who really go far I look back on the you know the Giants when they're making those runs and you know as a pitcher facing them I want to say it was like for 2014 You know, you're facing a really good lineup and it's like, you know, but these guys they do the little things They do they're gonna grind on you every single pitch talk about that a little bit I bring it up often when I'm doing the radio or I'm the chances I get a chance to do the TV games When a lineup is consistently going seven eight nine pitches, not just one guy But four or five guys in the lineup that do it How does what kind of stress does that put on you as a as a pitcher? Well, I just think it's like every every mistake is like compounded, you know as a pitcher You're always gonna leave pitches over the plate It compounds in the sense that like when you're facing hitters that keep the game simple and they're just trying to keep the line moving You know, that's a single up the metal. That's a single up the metal That's not a, you know trying to trying to hit one in the gap and fly flying out, right? So there's it's it's really like every every inning becomes the ninth I think you see that where you know You can go as a starting pitcher and you can get away with pitches But then it almost seems like the good teams and the good hitters in the ninth They hit like another gear and that's the best way I can describe it is that you know It's it's the ninth inning from the first inning on I always described playoff baseball as pitchers everybody's more focused and so the the you if let's say you're getting a ball in a half of pitches in the middle of a plate during a regular season that goes down to one and and Hit hitters are spitting on pitches that maybe in the regular season. They might offer it But did you notice the same thing in your experience a hundred percent? You know, I mean, it's just it's you know It's so fine-tuned to where it's like you can sit out there and try and be perfect And I think that's the natural tendency and that gets you completely out of like the frame of mind that got you there in the first place And it's like, you know, that's that's the thing. It's like these good teams It's like they know their identity they pull for each other and it's like when it comes crunch time Like you're doing the little things correctly and it's just really simplifying the game as best as you can And not necessarily feeling like there's any added pressure on each pitch It's just hey as you know, I'm going out there and I'm executing this pitch I'm gonna execute this and I know you know if I can do that 70 out of, you know, 95 100 pitches, I'm gonna be okay And if the scoreboard looks bad, then I can live with that one more I know you don't like talking about yourself, but I have a I have a lot of questions about you know, especially that year did Do you hear the noise prior to that last start? Are going into that series against the Astros? You know the noise around Stephen Strasburg has been I will he doesn't even need that willing to step into the fold here When it would it really can't did you hear that and how did you channel that after if if you did at all? Yeah, I think you know that that was kind of something that carried me like through my whole career and I was like, you know, it's there You know, I think it also goes back to just kind of them making the really tough decision when I blew out my elbow To say hey like you're not gonna pitch in the playoffs. I was young I was just kind of like I don't know what's going on But it's like now every opportunity that they're that you're there from a personal perspective It's like it gets magnified and you know, I would say that was kind of like You know a turning point in my career You know, I feel like that there was you know some injuries I was right in the high and the low and then I finally got to this point where it's like I was on it I made it to the end, you know, that was the biggest thing is is like can I be upright in September, right? Right, and you know, I was able to do that, and I just really loved the teammates that I had there Gerardo Para, Annabel Sanchez, you know, we had a young Juan Soto who was great there Throwing the young goams Kurt Suzuki You know those guys just like you want to play for him, right? and I just wanted to go out there and and leave it all out there on the table and You know if it didn't work it didn't work But man those guys like there was so many points in that In that in that playoff run where I got bailed out and you know, they can sit there and say oh world series MVP I was like well those my teammates they helped you to pick you up You know, I would ever have happened if it wasn't for all these I mean how he Kendrick, you know, it's like you look back on all the big hits that he had it's Wouldn't have happened otherwise you brought up one of my favorite guys to watch it in Juan Soto Did you did was it a pretty apparent the moment he got called up that he was gonna be this good? Yeah, I think because he made a jump like he was double a right. I only I think it was high a high a I think you're right he he was tearing it up down there and You know a lot of times when you get a guy called up It's like the game's like sped up, you know, like guys breaking pitches are sharper like there They're hitting their spots better and there's an adjustment period and the thing that I noticed early on with one was just his plate discipline was off the charts and You know, that's that's one thing that you know, you see from the young guys It's like all right. They might be guessing and they might be trying to keyhole you in certain counts But Juan's just seeing the baseball and reacting. Yeah, so that's that's very very special skill. He's very special from that standpoint Here's one it just kind of popped up. I mean Paul schemes kind of reminds me a little bit of what you went through Well, if if if you haven't spoke to him if you had a chance to speak on would you have what kind of advice would you have for him? Yeah, I mean, I think it's funny because I was kind of at the early stage of like the next, you know, let's hype up every prospect, right? Yeah, and I just looking from afar. It's like you don't you know I didn't I didn't really understand what was going on at the time I was young and I was like I didn't I felt really uncomfortable being in the clubhouse and being around these guys that I Idolized these veterans. I mean, I'm throwing the pub draught Riga's as a rookie And it was just weird to me. It didn't really set all the attention was on. You had these beds that been in there for a while it's just you know, it's easy to be you know labeled the savior of the franchise and You know, that's a lot of weight that you have to put on that you could put on yourself but I would say just like you just have to enjoy it like there's going to be highs there's going to be lows and it's all about just Finding those ways to get better every single day like this is just a long career, you know his next start It's not just that start like there's many more starts down the road and just really look at it from the perspective Like, you know, this is going to be a long career And I just want to know at the end of the day that I you know turned over every stone and I gave it everything I possibly could now Stephen you were built up old-fashioned, right? We talked a little bit about getting in the weight room kind of changing your whole body structure really How much analytics did you actually get to? Participate in if you will and how much did you like it or or didn't like it? Yeah, I think that the analytics part especially from pitching You know, one of the things that you know, I had a pitching coach Steve McCatty early on in my career And he would always talk about paralysis by analysis And I think with that when you get young guys, I think it's very easy To have the analytics part change who you are as a pitcher and what makes you successful Um, you know, I would use more so just like the data on a frisk from a scouting perspective. Yeah, um, you know The biggest thing is is that like, you know When you're in college and you only give up like a couple home runs in a three-year career And then you get, you know, clip the few times You're like, oh man, like this is this doesn't this doesn't feel right And so the immediate thing is to like start to tinker and start to change and then you start to Oh, I need to throw 60 pitches in the bullpen in between and then I got to figure it out And you know, when you have a long career, you start to realize that you're going to give up home runs And then you know, when you know, you're going to give up home runs It's how can you, you know, pick out where your outs are in the lineup? Um, how can you stay away from slug? And you know, that's really the thing that that really helped me Um, was just trying to stay away from slug, you know, and it's like really using my Pitches and my sequences to keep keep the ball in the yard And then give it off the give it off the sweet part of the back Yeah, and and you know, but at the same time when you got two strikes like know how to punch a guy out You know, don't don't wait around don't you know mess around. It's like boom put them away You know, you came up you mentioned you came up pretty quickly after you got drafted And you did have a lot of the eyeballs on you and listen having been in club houses I know that that could Rub people the wrong way to to know open to no bad doing on your own Who were like your mentors when you came up like who were the guys that kind of put their arm around you? Yeah, well, I would say, you know, obviously, um Brian zimmerman zim was was great and he's always more like the quiet type and then yeah, you know, but he was he was Always there to keep the include you with a lot of the stuff like, you know away from the field a lot of the team building things um I would say like the the one guy who like we kind of like our personality is like he's got a very dry sense of humor But as i've gotten older i've learned to like accept it and like enjoy it, but jordan zimmerman I can see he is a character and You know, our his his family and my family are still really close They were out out here for 4th of july with us and we're already talking about planning another trip together But uh, you know, he was a guy that like, you know as as a young pitcher I mean he kept it very very simple and it was just he had that bulldog mentality And it was like i'm gonna make you beat me And um, that's something that you know at the end of the day like if you go out there and do that like you can you can take it You know, it's not like, you know, second guess man. I should have thrown that pitch. I saw on that It's like it doesn't matter whichever one you're committed to and you have the most conviction with um Lot of oh scrape you got your hand there. Sorry. I'm sorry Over go ahead. No, i'm i'm in some weird world over there watching a great conversation from in studio, but my question we we talked about Paul skeins and we have a Pretty good chance at rookie of the year here in san diego. I'm not going to ask you to choose who's going to win But what is jackson maryll showed you this year in his rookie year and leading the team playing center Yeah, I mean it's it's a hard thing to do. I I think when you get the first taste of You know going through to the finish line, especially when you come from you know short and minor league season or like with with skeins Like college season and stuff that you know, there's there's going to be some You know, I guess physical breakdown at some point but when you're staying consistent with that and you've kind of proven that You know you belong You know, that's that's one thing that you know, it's it doesn't come along very often and in a way I feel like it's you know, it can be that could be a little bit harder from a position player standpoint because You know starting pitcher like you can go out there and be lights out But you're pitching once every five days five six days and you know when you start to like change the rotation around just for a Long-term health perspective like those position players they're they're grinding they're playing through injuries and uh to be able to have that You know professional Sense and like feel to still go out there and perform You know, it's impressive when you see a guy that young be able to do that. Yeah I mean the one thing we haven't had to have had to have a discussion of is health. He's been available every every single game A lot of injuries With pitchers this year some of the some of the best pitchers in our game have missed a year be due to injury. I mean You see it guys are throwing harder than they ever have you can kind of start at that trend as as well um Is there a remedy to to this? I mean there was a time you and I both grew up in an era watching Aces face each other often and it was like the it was like the game to watch We don't have that as much I mean you get a match up like yesterday with fronber and dylan Those seem to be far and few in between it. Is there a remedy for this? I know you've seen some of the conversation about major league baseball. Maybe You know legislating this into the game somehow. I mean, what are your thoughts on it? Yeah, I mean I think The game of baseball like it's in its purest form is doesn't require, you know outside elements to You know control it almost It's tough to say. I mean that's such a hard question to answer. That's the puzzle piece that I've been I looked for in my entire career, you know You know, I think one of the things going up was that You know, I idolize those guys that you know, we're eating innings or innings eaters right and you don't you don't see those guys valued anymore You know one of the guys that you know I got a chance to work with in the off season was james shields When I was coming back here in san diego for the off seasons and You know, I just I just thought that that was one thing where I just like man Those guys are just pitching through everything like they are reliable. They are going out there every five days And they're and they're going deep I don't know if it's analytics, you know, they I did start to see where it's like, oh, you know This guy can't face the lineup the third time through It's it's hard to say if Guys are being rushed to the big leagues because they throw hard and they're dominating Hitters and maybe that they haven't really understood how to pitch and they're more throwers Um You know, it's it's a tough call, you know, I think You know, I think the game's just changed in that aspect and I don't really know if it's wherever you're going to see it again Yeah, I know that's what the league is clamoring for at some point But you're right. Yeah Once it's almost like we say the the toothpaste is out of the tube already It's I don't know that you can put it back in Uh, we run a little short on time. Chris scrap. You got something. I got one more It's about it's about like the pitch clock and all these different Things that have come about after you left the game But like would you have been in favor of a pitch clock because I think at first Many people thought it was going to be awkward. It was going to be weird, but we've all gotten used to it So what are your thoughts on things like the pitch clock? Um, you can be honest. Yeah, I think I think the pitch clock is controversial I think it's one of those things that was like Kind of pointless to me. I think if you know as a pitcher It's like you want to pitch at a fast tempo, you know, the hitter wants to slow the game down but at this like There's been some instances obviously where there's been a pitch clock violation and it's really messed up the outcome of the game And I think that's not right from a personal perspective You know, that's the difference about baseball compared to any other sport. There is no clock. Yeah, and um, that's You know, I think I think if you allow the players as a whole to police it themselves You know, and I think that's where you can't police it yourself anymore But you know for me It's like pitch clock didn't really come into factor because I can you're trying out to To go out there and given this repetitive tempo and that tempo is fast because you want to have the The the hitter almost be on the defensive right not in the offensive You're 100% right. I mean that was the game. It was he's gonna try to go quick I'm gonna try to go slow so I can kind of think this out who's gonna win that that that cat and mouse mark mark burly through Like a two-hour and five-minute complete game against this one time and it was just like rapid fire here it is Hit it sinker sinker ground ball ground ball and I was like man that was a quick game strong. Give us the uh Give us the website. Yeah, it's uh Aztec alumni dot com Sign up sheet is open for the golf tournament on november 15th And uh, yeah, I would love everybody to come out and support the the baseball program Um, you know, I I believe it can go to some great heights here and uh really honor honor your dad You know, he's uh, he's got a special place in my heart and you always will yeah He definitely considered you a second son steven. Uh, appreciate you coming on man. We'll uh, make sure we get the word out for sure Appreciate it. We're going to chris on the other side Welcome back Tony goin jr. Matt scravey goin and chris chris elo out on vacation. Listen Uh, I want to apologize. I didn't You know, we supposed to come back in and you know every once in a while during every we're supposed to remind you guys who we're talking to Uh, I forgot got to do that. What do you want? What's that called again? It's called a reset reset Uh, I didn't reset and i'm gonna be honest with you why I didn't reset I've known steven for a very long time Without microphones. I have never got him to sit and like talk like that ever So I was just kind of enjoying the conversation. We were having and so I forgot to reset A couple times, but I I I only forgot to reset because I it was compelling. I've never had a chance to sit and talk to him. So it was I was a fun conversation It just goes to show you man Baseball is stressful and it seems like he's been able to kind of get away from it for a little bit and just kind of Enjoy life. And so That right there was my first experience really ever getting to like chat it up with him like that. And so he's just a wealth of information. I appreciate him Excuse me. We appreciate him Coming on and and and kind of opening it up for us I mean, I thought one of the one of the interesting parts was him talking about the the playoffs and the feel for How how different how intense those games get man? It's it's I've got three at bats in in post-season play and I tell you what? 2008 I had been playing professional baseball at that point since 2003 It felt like the first at bat. I have remember I tell you guys it felt like you're floating Yes, that's how it felt every single time I was in a box for playoff game It's just that buzz. It's it's literally and you know two of the game two of the ab's came in filly So like it's like it's the literal buzz in your ear I remember very well chase utterly robbing me of a great drag button like glove flipped Took I should have two heads. I shouldn't be two for three in the post-season play, but instead I'm one for three I digress Hall of favor, right? Holla good. Oh, well still holly good. He did that to a lot of people he did he did I could can't be mad but uh Steven Strasburg was in the building Uh got a chance to chop it up before with him for a little bit That was kind of surreal for me guys say a little bit Like he came in and and we were sitting in the back just talking and I was like, oh, this guy is just a normal dude Just like us. I mean, you know, he's county kid just You know from San Diego his as you can see his His journey wasn't just like He didn't just pop on the radar when he started throwing a hundred like he had to kind of work to get there So I always think it's it's fun for you know young kids that are it's It's you know aspiring to be a big leaguer to kind of hear those stories because most of the time it's it there's you're gonna you're gonna have to go through something tough in order to get to that so Uh three o'clock usually is our daily gambit. Yes, but I did not we can do it here if you want I've moved it to four just because I didn't know if there was gonna be any spillover But we could do the daily gambit. It's up to you buddy. We're the producer. We want to do Let's just do the daily gambit. We're just making bets because we didn't do any of the other Let's do the day of the gambit there Do you like money? I think about money Do you like money without doing anything Uh winning do you want to make money while watching sports? I think Washington is immortal luck Washington If you answer yes, this is your segment just don't blame us when you lose nothing is ever your fault Okay, take it Gwen and cress go through the top bets of the day in the daily gambit on 97 3 the fan Okay, the gambit is our daily sports-setting segment here on Gwen and cress please everybody gamble responsibly We have four bets that we're going to make tonight all on the thursday night football game again It's the jets and the patriots that's gonna cover just gonna start here on 97 3 the fan at 4 30, but the first Prop bet that we have is going to be about erin rogers now erin rogers Uh, we did talk a little fancy football earlier today, too And we were talking about Garrett wilson in the back in the room I was saying no we kept back steve schrozberg is a very he's he's a he's a fantasy. He's you know He's a Garrett wilson older too. Yeah, so we we we like toss behind a dozen Yes, because we both have been trying to see Garrett wilson break out for the last couple years But erin rogers this line got me a little Got me thinking over under 20 and a half passing completions for erin rogers tonight against the patrons Now he had 13 against the 49ers and he had 18 against the titans 20 he got to get over 20 got to get 21 Under under I I want to say over because I feel like this is the time that they're going to open it up But 21 completions for this offense right now seems a little I mean who they still have Nathaniel hack it as the mastermind so i'm gonna go under i'm gonna go under Also erin erin rogers. I thought this one was funny over under one and a half rushes in the game Not rushing yards just actual rushing attempts now He had two against the titans and he had one against the 49ers. I'm up first I think he goes over today. I don't know why but he only needs two attempts on the day I'm going under you're going under I mean he's not doing with the Achilles and all that good stuff now hunter henry tied in for the Patriots he had a massive game last week at 109 yards he had a terrible game in the first week he had 18 yards so tony is he over under 33 and a half receiving yards who is this hunter henry the tight end for the Patriots he'll be over he'll be over I agree with you he'll be over uh and then the final one breeze haul over under 31 and a half receiving yards he had 39 against the 49ers 52 last week both overs I'm going over in this one let's go breeze I'm going over baby all right so that is it's um walk off this with for the bets that's it yeah we're uh walk off and this is a big series by the way a lot of good a lot of exciting things happen in a major league baseball guardians twins right oh yeah those two are neck and neck guardians walk off wow Andre's uh is it Andre's uh him and his him and his gave him the the night night curry signal after he got the walk off hit um so that changes the standings in the american league central cleveland now uh well ahead twins are fighting kansas city for the one of the last wild card spots and so you know that loss certainly doesn't help their cause minnesota currently now tied with the detroit tigers yes for the third playoff or third wild card spot let's talk about that for a second let's talk about this real quick the fact that the you know suppose it bad division yeah al central could very well end up with three teams and the team that's on the outskirts is also from the al central you got the cheat the chiefs the royals the twins tigers fighting it out for the last two three two of the last three spots and then you got the guardians leading the way four teams real central you know what's a little bit uh i want to say now that the pajre has played the tigers a couple weeks ago here at pecko park we all remember a grand slam being hit yes in which what i'm bringing that up for now is that the tigers are in it which means that the series win that the pajre's had over the tigers is much more impressive to me that they they took that series rather than uh losing that series because the tigers are a good team like when you hear tigers you think you think there is whatever it's the tigers there is some ptsd from them being so bad i think people hear tigers and it just you assume immediately it did not very good even when you look at their record i looked at their record for three days when i was writing their thing down and just it couldn't quite snap over but there were eight and two in their last ten they're 80 and 73 on the season i mean it's a good team it is a good it's it's a formidable team for sure um i just find that interesting interesting aos was kicked earlier in the season when it you know the diamondbacks weren't playing that great you know it was kind of a 500 i think we were everybody was above 500 but right at 500 then the Dodgers kind of took off and it was kind of top heavy but now you see those three teams three teams right now look like they're shooting to get into the playoffs uh if we moved to the naturally essential brewers have already clinched so they got their spot all locked up which would be nice for the Padres by the way that's another good team the Padres have handled this year yeah you know we can go down the list of good team the only good team to Padres it got thumped by where the Yankees and the Phillies Yankee series seems so long it really does he's so long i think you Darvish was still pitching the first time when that happened in May i think he was i think the Yankees Padres handled the Orioles yeah they did they handled the Royals they handled the Guardians they handled the Astros they had all the Mets we split with the Mets basically right because they took they swept us there and we think two or three so they Mets beat them all handled the twins handled the brew crew as i said handled the Red Sox so i mean the Padres have taken care of business you know against some of the best teams uh in the league and i think that's another reason why this everybody should have have a little more trust in this ball club i feel like there is more trust out there and i feel like the baggage is starting to get a little lighter on on everyone but like it's still like he was talking about playing in the playoff game all those fans are nervous about the playoff games average division juiced by playing the white Sox a lot though i mean you're not really playing the division like they used to i was the Kobayashi i don't know i don't know that by that argument white Sox help create more over 500 i guess i guess some interesting ways of describing things because that to me kind of makes sense the part where it says um the white Sox help create more than more over 500 36 and 117 so i mean they clearly aren't you know the greatest team on the planet no but i don't know i i think um um in a vacuum you know that might be true but i i think the those four teams despite how their record may look uh they've grinded to get to this point and you know you could have said the same thing about the 2022 Padres and then they show enough when all the way to the uh NLCS so that's true uh nonetheless good baseball happening right now fun time of year for baseball right now all right let's uh get to break when we come back i actually have a clip for you of Caleb Williams and C.J. Stroud oh yeah i don't hear we have you seen this clip yes i've seen i need to get your opinion on this clip i'm not going to say anything about how i feel about this clip oh oh you will you definitely will i will i'm going into this without saying anything then we'll hear what you have to say about it all right more Gwen and Chris on the other side here's some traffic 3 19 on the clock Tony Gwen jr. Matt Scravey Gwen and Scravey for the next week kind of hustle to it if you ask me just kidding i can't say that too much just kidding my partner probably could feel some type of way Chris is probably losing his mind right now because Tony got a text from his wife this morning saying his phone's not working i i was just getting ready to say he probably is losing his phone the they're in Canada phone's not working and he clearly i know he's panicked because he had Lori send me a text which is i only tell i've gotten a text from Lori was for his birthday earlier this year ah so i know there's this is definitely important to him like and i reveal what he said and Scravey's a little unsure about following through on this so of course we have our uh Gwen and Chris pick them obviously Chris is not here and his phone is not working and so he has a loud Scravey to pick full i feel like this is only going one way and i feel like this is only a setup for Chris to just crush me the entire year like well i would have been in first but Scravey picked in week three if you do well though he's gonna he's gonna say it's no one void because he can't give me he can't give me the satisfaction of doing well and a pick him but we're gonna do it anyway we are we're gonna have a pick up at the end of the week right as we do it we're doing it today oh we're four four four twenty is when we're doing it heading into Monday night football that starts at four thirty here on the stage i mean i'm not gonna lie i am totally dependent on Chris because he usually puts the lines in the score you got some paper all right yes because Chris there's chris is so chris is so methodical with this thing like i get a text every morning on thursday with the line of every game that week and that's how i normally know what the lines are home teaming caps he's got yeah oh yeah by the way he does home teaming caps not like put them on the right side no no home to it it home teaming caps road team on the uh in small letters and you know depending on home it's like it's a lot for our text and he does this every week so i can only imagine i'm gonna do this in the youtube camera if you want to search 97 through the fan chris does this when he's texting he does like the finger peck and then he goes ah he definitely does to finger he does the whole finger peck boop boop boop and then he hits the wrong button he's all frustrated he's not a thumbs guy he's definitely uh the old school one finger button guy boop boop boop boop still using t9 um i wanted to ask you about something and a fail no we'll talk about that in a second okay sorry thank you for reminding me um it was something i got a couple messages this morning one from our guy will galves who used to work here on the station and he said tony is so mad right now about this bunt conversation and then i got a tweet about how you sounded exhausted from the roundtable what the heck happened you know at first shout out to uh been in which because they have a great uh great humor they they yes they do they they they know how to have that kind of conversation because i'm not gonna lie i am quite annoyed by the the bunt conversation are we talking about jerks and pro far uh whoever we're talking about just bunting in general i thought this was like a yeah it it pertain to to jerks and bunting um hold up you go ahead carry a conversation for a second i need to i need to get my okay my ducks in a row here he's gonna get his ducks in a row but uh yeah so i heard that this morning and if everybody wants to go and try and watch this whole uh kerfuffle that happened on the round table then you need to go to the youtube and type in 97 through the fan you could find the uh entire recording oh yeah okay so you know jerks and bunted in the third inning right he sacked bunted it moved um it moved ds and and lock ridge over now it ends up happening that toddy and and uh mannie ended up making out toddy punched mannie hit a hard ground ball to second base got the gout there so it didn't work it was third and you know i knew it was coming you could kind of feel it i can i could feel it so when chris asked or when when um adam asked me if i was coming in to to do the round table i really didn't want to come in in part because i knew that was gonna come up oh it stressed you out it was my off day i was like i kind of i kind of want to just chill but i came in anyway and it was it the conversation was going great we were just having a good time and about 35 minutes in it came up the butt the butt situation it and i understand that you know it's not their favorite thing to watch but like at some point this part this is this is a part of what they do it's a part of who the padre's are and so it shouldn't be like this this big ordeal all the time what was their argument against it i think wanted him to swing it for him just because well they feel like he had a chance to to drive him in where we we are talking from vervaldes it's not like this dude is a scrubbed out there i mean this is like the best ground not not not just me saying it literally the best ground ball pitcher in baseball first and second and you know who hits into the most double plays we talked about this day well not just many which are the padre's in general hidden to a ton of double plays yeah so you but you move the guy up you got two shots now if you have two shots you got two shots but you're best to your best at the plate i don't know to me and i explained this on on the round table is emblematic you know as funny as i was wanted to use the word emblematic in real time but there's a piece of me like i don't know if that's the right word so i changed up the word oh yes so the one that i knew that was for sure fit which weren't did you choose i don't remember at this point i think it's an evidence it's further evidence further that's a good line i like that i think i went that route um i do declare the further evidence but it is emblematic of you know who they are as a team a lot of times we talked about last year that team not necessary looking like they fit together this team fits together because they're willing to sacrifice and that literally but you know sacrifice the the the um you sacrifice the event okay the the whatever comes with being the guy getting a hit there right the glory right they're wearing the sacrifice the glory to the other teammate who they you know feels like a good chance didn't work out that editing so you know i get it but you know butting is part of baseball no matter how much you uh and leg folks and bit and woods don't like it i think it's kind of i think it's kind of exciting to be honest because and i know what that sounds crazy but when you do a but when you when you put down a button no one is expecting it that's pretty fun to see also it usually has some sort of close play involved and so i like the but um i don't necessarily have anything any problems with the button but once it was just rain and then you see the play he's just down who's down he's in seattle he just uh was trying to feel the ball and right field and he ran right into the wall and he does not look like he's feeling good right now oh he banged that knee into that wall oh he's got the jersey in his mouth oh he looks like he's having trouble to be honest like well i'll take you on that nonetheless that was well i mean i really honestly it wasn't really that upset i mean it was a it was a good debate and i enjoyed it actually when it was all said and then we had some good laughs all right well good i'm glad i glad i it sounded more serious from all the comments that i got for people that's probably because i probably was initially like i think i might have like rolled my head into my hands in front of my lap when they initially brought it up something along those lines it was a scrapey eye roll yeah almost all right give me what you get all right so uh after the sunday football game with the bears in the texan cj stratter one ricky of the year last year he went after not went after he went to go find Caleb williams to kind of talk to him a little bit and it was caught by uh mike the nfl films mic'd up and so this is the situation it went through quick so there's a request that you do who the pickles and chris and your chris elo voice ah that's my problem i got that down he's gonna hate it he's gonna hate it we're gonna save this and then play it for him when he comes back oh okay your voice over all right go ahead uh and then so cj shroud looking for Caleb williams after the game had a little bit of advice for him so you're gonna hear cj shrouds voice first good job out there bro yeah keep going up taking those weeks yeah okay yeah learn from learn look come here learn from those mistakes and everything that you got bro is there you already bro you gonna be held the player in this league oh boy appreciate so that's it that's the interaction okay and this is this is one of the most controversial interactions does ever happen on a football field according to the internet so Tony this is why i hate the internet it's why i hate it i thought about you the second i watched this clip what do you think about it i don't think anything about it i knew that was your answer i think this is a young man who just went through it trying to impart some wisdom on someone who is about to go through it and it don't look at least at this point it don't look like Caleb is about to enjoy the same ride that cj shroud got to enjoy so my guess is that criticism that is fairly mute right now will only get louder if they aren't winning games probably and so i think was i don't i didn't hear anything in there that was bad information people feel some type of way because it's the second year quarterback trying to impart some wisdom but i think this is a special quarterback right i mean he just led in his rookie year a team into the vision layout so i mean i think a lot of people are also thinking that Caleb Williams was a little bit off put by the whole thing he was trying to like get away and i'm not saying first of all he just lost the game and he just got beat up that'd be exactly let me stop let me stop he he just lost his second game in a row yeah he got beat up on national tv beat up on national tv and hey he probably don't even know how that's supposed to go at this point it's only a second like come to the middle of the field and shake the other quarterbacks and moment the first time you know they got the they got sorry he got the victory in his first week if i'm at mistake oh you did yeah you're right they want to somehow beat the titans maybe the types of touchdown i'm sure him and uh mannays man didn't have the same little left this didn't have the same uh interaction after the game but i i people like we we make a molehill out of anything now our turn a molehill into a mountain i should say yes yes um i agree with you now i'm a Caleb Williams disliker i didn't see you by the way why do we dislike Caleb Williams what do you do i think i think i'm gonna let you think about this for a little bit go ahead tell me why tell me why we don't like Caleb Williams i don't know there's just something about the i know everything attitude kind of that where did you get that i i'm putting that on him but i think a lot of people are hearing stories from college and how his teammates didn't show up to his birthday party and then that thing you know at the holiday bowl with the usc writer series like oh we got a real team now we don't know he was talking about Caleb Williams or anything like that i feel like there's a there's a maybe a uh misnomer about Caleb Williams that he is all about himself but that's kind of how i feel i don't know how i feel that way but that's the sixth sense that i have i don't know how you feel that way either buddy um when we get to know Caleb or when you get to know him let me know if it actually matches up okay you know i just i'm be interested to see okay i did like when someone when he was entering the the stadium in his like you know off off field clothes or whatever his for i don't know what do you call that just close i don't know the closing we're like he looks like he wants to be an archaeologist it looks like he did kind of look like he had a joke oh did he have glasses he had these pants that look like archaeology pants where is the archaeology section at the store at anthropology anthropology archaeology anthropology anyway that's it let's get to break uh on the other side we got a big five on our way and scrape is uh hopefully got five questions oh i knew it was one short before we started oh wait no no no no no i wasn't no we were shorter man more good chris on the other side can you give me an example mr bat fan one you mean it how you have make will make something small into something large you know you need examples yeah i do know you know trying to honestly think of what i did this week uh let's check oh maybe the uh maybe the robersoir is he all right yeah oh yeah yes yes don't don't get me started on that all right let's check some traffic and then to scrapies big five we go it's that time of the show when we check on the latest in sports only the most important topics and questions are brought to light stop what you're doing and listen these news stories will astound and amaze you the one the only oh my god who the hell cash the big five starts now on ninety seven three the fan all right big five today if you love Mediterranean food try spirals for our authentic Mediterranean cuisine and cornado or lahoya for dining or takeout options visit spirals cuisine dot com now i don't know that anyone really wants to hear this but shohio tani hit his 49th home run so oh he's closing one one fifty fifty yeah he needs one more steel i believe and then definitely one more oh you guys yeah that's i think i'd rather him do it before we get there yeah i don't want yeah yeah because then for the rest of time he slides into the base the video shows a pager in the background that's my point that's uh let's let's hope that he knocks both of those out we got some time we got some time you guys what are you talking about he would hit he should be able to hit one more home run i'm putting that on him i hope so i i want him to do it but you say you got a bunch of gay got three games before we show up uh real quick dodgers ahead of miami right now nine three and the seven uh as scrapie mentioned 15 to three atlanta walked away with a victory today arizona and milwaukee face off at four fifteen pacific time so about 30 minutes and then uh the meds and fillies take on one another same time so there is some scoreboard watching to be had tonight ladies and gentlemen and you don't have a dog in a fight tonight uh tyler tells me that he got steel 50 and 51 earlier in the game so shohio tani's just one home run away from 50 how i need him to do that these next three games they are tonight do it tonight show it tonight show hey all right today you got you got if he's not already out of that game it's night he's probably in that game because he's probably trying to get me so they can't waste a good time good time to do it number four by the way he is four for four today with five rbi's just no homer it's annoying how good he is sometimes mariner star hulio redriguez had an interesting night last night because he had to dodge a bat and then he was tagged out here is a prime video of the game last night runners lead two two swing and a miss and the ball is going to third and they get j-rod oh what a happenstance a rosarena strikes out let's go to the back so he let's go to the bat hulio rodriguez dodges the bat kind of forgets that he's playing baseball and austin wels threw it down the third tags him out uh my question for this one is do you blame him that was coming at his head it was yes and no i don't blame him i mean he he did the natural thing which was get out of the way yeah but then he took like a jog like around the grass i think he literally forgot what he was doing out there in his defense the bat i mean the bat was in line to hit him so like he wasn't exaggerating getting out of the way but he did forget that there was actually a ball in play you know typically a guy strikes out he loses the bat like it's strike three you know the inning may end or whatever but this is a live boy they meant credit to jazz schism who came running in the third base like throw me the ball yeah and that was after the the catcher kind of came out of his crouching it was like he almost couldn't believe like what's happening what does he do i'm okay so he starts running down the third base jazz calls for the ball yeah that's pretty embarrassing right there that's a tough one he went in and apologized after the game for his uh mental error he couldn't he couldn't you know you could just see it in his run off the field like he was he sat at the base for maybe ten seconds like i don't want to i don't want to leave here i want to pretend like this didn't happen i'm a meme now yeah man that's all bad uh do i blame him no but i feel like there should be some sort of maybe automatic timeout if you have to dodge a bat coming at you know man you got to get you got to get back see you know you would like to have have have him had that mapped out already yeah you know i'm saying like one of the things you think about when you're on third base is okay which direction might go on if he hits a foul ball yeah right i i gotta be able to get out of the way this could come screaming out right i left a right hander likely if he pulls a ball it's gonna have some some hook on it if it's if you're in danger so which way are you gonna go the bat's a little different it's not a ball it's a it's a stick coming from like from swinging around so i again i don't fault him for getting out of the way the way he did he just you got to be able to to think man that that run was important they ended up losing an extra innings yeah by one so you know thankfully they're the Seattle i mean technically they're in it but they're not in it i was gonna say at least it like didn't happen to a team that was on the brink of making the playoffs i mean but you helped the that you had certainly helped the Yankees coach they're in the playoffs you know yeah that's true number four detroit lions head coach Dan Campbell and his wife holly are selling their home due to security concerns after their address was leaked online last season Campbell did not provide specifics on any particular incidents that occurred but according to fox to detroit the address was leaked online following their week 17 20 to 19 loss to the cowboys last season that led to contractors showing up at the house for repairs that weren't needed as a prank according to Fox porch jay gate glazer because that is a pretty funny prank but it's also messing with the the contractor because then yeah they're gonna go out there thinking they're gonna have a job and now they don't have a job and dang Campbell's the kneecap cannibal sitting there uh after harassment continued following the lines of loss in the nse championship to the 49ers the cambells filed police reports with bloomfield township and uh they the the police say they take this very seriously but they are moving anyway now this uh stems from something titans quarterback will levis the man ace man recently had his number leaked to fans and has received text messages from fans criticizing change his number have changed his number so this happens in all sports my question here and i'm first so the entities like the nfl NBA mlb and nhl need to take player safety and security more seriously i do think that we're getting to a point where these leagues are gonna have to provide security for some of these people um it's getting crazy enough that people are showing up to people's houses following people home doing insane things just because they play a sport uh i think this is crazy but yes i think these leagues are gonna have to start protecting their people a little bit more tony and i don't know what that looks like uh first i mean it's just sad that we even have in this conversation uh secondly uh i hope it does cost all of these sports a whole bunch of money to secure their players because you know why does this happen because of gambling probably this is why this is why there's an uptick in it you can they lose them money on their parlay they lose them money or whatever and they're pissed about it and now i don't know why they're because people have been betting on parlays and games for a very long time well it was illegal so they couldn't like necessarily be out front with it so they now they can it's fully legal they aren't doing any harm so they're gonna let you know about it and you know we're in an era where you know doxing somebody or yeah or swatting you know you swatting like all of these terms have been created and in the last like 10 years because this is what we do on a consistent basis like i'm so mad at the football team and head coach that i'm gonna put his his address up yeah i'm gonna send Nate's plumber to his house and say i got a leak it's just it's crazy and it's it's only gonna take one terrible idea at people you know we had for a long time dying for the access that we now have so you're gonna have less than people less people participating in wanting to give the access yeah at this point well best of luck to you kneecap cannibal by the way misery it's not like running up on Dan Campbell is like the smartest idea by the way the dude is like six six and he's not small he's in she yeah he can do the workouts with the players i watch he was doing burpees or did or doing push-ups like all last season when they weren't getting stuff right yeah he's a very strong man i'm just saying like you better you better have your you better have your stuff together going over there uh NFL kicking is getting so good there may be a change coming another one yes now 39 times during the first two weeks of this NFL season NFL kickers have tried a 50 plus yard field goal they've converted all of them but four of those kicks and ironically Justin Tucker has missed two of those four kicks over 50 yards yes i drafted him of course they're thinking they need rule changes to make it more difficult no ideas put forth are to narrow the goal post or make a 50 plus yard kick a different number of points and it tears up from 50 to 55 it's a four-point play 55 or more is a five-point play Tony do you think there needs to be a real change no okay we just changed we just changed the rules like four years ago to push the kick it might have been longer than four now i'm not tired i don't even know i know we started kicking what 20 yard extra points 35 yard extra yeah maybe yeah four or five years ago so i mean why do we don't need to we don't need to we don't need to do that just they got better that's the whole idea is like you evolve you get better the article i was reading said that when Lane Kiffin in 2008 sent Sebastian Janikowski out for a 76 yard field or a 20 yard short out Davis like fired him the next day because it was such an egregious call last week the Cowboys put out Brandon Aubrey for a 71 yard deal and he didn't they they ended up not kicking it but they were thinking about it the man had knocked down like a 64 yarder the week before he does have a big leg like he has a huge leg and by the way these uh kickers soccer player by yes these these um kickers now i was reading the article they're running four six fourties they're bench pressing four hundred pounds i just i remember as a kid the kicker used to have one bar on his thing yeah he didn't he looked like a kicker it was like joe from the corner right they don't look like they're two different color shoes they got they got they got their soccer cleats on they're nice and put together now like Morton Anderson is the prime look of a kick baggy long uniform like a hundred years old with a black shoe and a white shoe and just a one bar one bar helmet yeah that's that's how it goes miss the one bar helmet hey those guys is gone now i mean the athlete is just different. Number two the manning cast has not been as popular start this season and did rebound last week from week one but ESPN's Pat McAfee said something a lot of us are actually probably thinking it's hard to follow the game watching the manning cast he said quote you do get lost you don't really get to watch the game whenever you're watching the manning cast it's very hard to pay attention to everything going on he then said i think the manning cast is going to become clips for a lot of people which is going to happen end quote some say that this is a slight to the manning's and i'm not saying McAfee is sliding them but i'm up first is saying your uh you you are a quote unquote clip show disrespectful and i think it could be taken disrespectfully for some people but the manning cast is a perfect clip show you know what i did with the matt ryan stuff everybody was talking about how he was on there and uh someone else was on there i went back and i watched the clip and a lot of the clips that you watch from the manning cast make sense because you're not trying to pay attention to the game after the fact and so i do think that they're a clip show and i don't think this is a slight tony do you think it's disrespectful a call show clip show i don't know why you needed to say it though like you could you could have just kept that to yourself and let other people i mean you got you got to work with them but maybe you don't yeah i don't i i don't know how that works hey did they play together colts punter maybe they just missed each other and they might have they might have played with each other but anyway he said is a clip show yeah i don't know i i i don't i think i don't know that he meant anything disrespectful by it but i could see how it could come off kind of disrespectful though yeah it's like oh you your show's only good you're a clip show i get the i get the people on my show and you you're a clip show uh who took a shot at pat max p the other day i think it was michael wilbon he said well if i had a black tank top on and i could say whatever i want hey well all i know is all of those folks work at the same place so i mean i don't know this is all good did you get now he ruffles firing squad on each other yeah that's true number one all right so i saw this monday night but i didn't really think i saw what i actually saw but drake loved and scores a game tying touchdown monday night and then his celebration was like that's what i thought it was a gun he was shooting a gun into the air that's what i thought so they flagged him 15 yards young hoku i believe is his name he had to make a long action he made it and he made it to tie the game or put them up now rahim morris the head coach of the falcon said that drake london wasn't shooting a gun he was shooting a t-shirt cannon because that's the kind of guy he is he said his intent was not to use a weapon he probably was shooting t-shirts into the stands to be honest with you because he's just that kind of guy um tony do you believe he was mimicking shooting t-shirts into the stick yes i would go on a limous he wasn't shooting t-shirts i don't know what he was shooting it might have been shooting ducks it could have been shooting ducks but he wasn't shooting t-shirts yeah he was not shooting t-shirts no one does that celebration and thinks oh yeah you know how in between innings they come and shoot t-shirts to you that's what i'm doing i want to i want to mock that how many falcons pr people ran up to rahim morris after the game he was shooting a t-shirt cannon i don't know if they came up to him but it was a good thinking on his feet right there yeah got us talking about it that's it for the big five when we get back pack 12 making steps towards filling out the rest of the teams we'll talk about that next right as we went to break i don't know if you guys saw my hands go up on the youtube channel but oh tony went deep 50 51 50 homers 51 bags he's got two doubles two homers tonight so we won't have to deal with none of it at that point when we arrive on monday or yeah monday night play on tuesday um so there's that history has made first ever 50 50 player he's in a like literally a league or a club of his own do you think that that means he gets his own spot in the hall of fame like i mean he's already been i i'm not making fun of him he he's he's on a hall of fame trajectory he is he won't have his own area though i promise won't say the 50 50 club one guy no berry didn't have 40 40 berry's not even in there he's not too sure uh should be yeah you know we don't need to hash that out again he should be uh we do have a gwen and scrappy pickle this week we'll get to that uh next segment but right now pack 12 making some moves um i sent that article to you what was that yesterday yeah last name last night um the Aztecs are obviously a part of the uh pack 12 now and you know the conversation and i and by the way great interview the other guy i missed it oh which is quicker yeah um it sounded like he the Aztecs will have input they were on what'd you think of it so tell me about the interview i missed it i can get a chance to listen to it no i feel like he's uh very optimistic uh obviously this is a big deal and i know that there are a lot of uh fans out there that aren't happy that they turn down the deal with the big 12 because they weren't going to get full share and why would they take the deal if they're not gonna get full share that's what i'm thinking like because other because the other big name schools have taken the deal but i think like a school like say oklahoma is a little bit different than a school like San Diego state and so i understand it's not even close oklahoma that took that deal i assumed to go to the SEC was moving out of the big 12 which was yeah which was already you know pretty lucrative thing plus oklahoma is it's oklahoma it's not San Diego state and at the SEC can just be like fine we don't want you oklahoma and they'll be fine right we'll be okay so there's more there's more to gain by simply being in that conference exactly that will open up however many avenues that will make up for whatever you're not getting in the big pot and so he basically jadie wicker uh basically said like we are we want to be on the ground floor this is a better deal for us because we're not going to be left out of certain things and i i thought about this interview all week and i think it's great that they're on the ground floor i think that this is something that maybe years from now we'll look at and be like this was an amazing move because they got into a conference early and they're able to determine other schools that are going to be in the conference and they're getting a full share and i know that it's not filled out right now but i think we need to wait like a year or two yeah i mean listen the reality is we don't decide i think it sets up to be the better of the deals i i anything can happen at this point right there could be another shake up of colleges which we we certainly don't hope um but they have their eyes set on a few teams um we've talked about uh what was it uh Texas San Antonio Texas San Antonio north Texas south Florida seems like they want to get into the rest of the country outside of the yeah Memphis is also in that group is another team in that group um i just i'm excited for and then it they also talked about an ad article it was a bleacher report article they also talked about beyond the football teams how it's setting up to possibly be one of the better basketball conferences because they were also then try to go after a team like Gonzaga they have to get Gonzaga for the basketball because right now as it sets up it's a pretty good basketball uh conference yeah off top yeah San Diego State's in that um you're already going to be joining the likes of a Washington state and Oregon state um some good it's it's an it and then you can bring a Gonzaga into that fold you got yourself a pretty pretty good conference if we're talking football which is where everybody always says is the money yep i i'm not interested or i'm not not interested i'm not excited about teams like north Texas or Texas San Antonio i mean that's almost just taking a step or going back to the mountain west to me because the mountain west has more established programs they also said that in the article that all of the mountain west schools are being looked at to to join so UNLV i think was one of the biggest uh teams that was left off that people are thinking are going to be in the pack 12 but i i don't want Texas state i don't want north Texas or utsa i want the teams like i know they're never going to get in Arizona but i want a team with a little bit of of a of a name to it i i don't i think the north Texas green flash maybe or is that the to lead to lane green flash i don't know but beggars can't be choosers i just don't really get excited about these teams yeah i i can feel that i mean it sounds like those teams are on the board according to the pack 12 commissioner there's been a lot of teams reaching out that possibly one again i could just be him spinning it however he wants to spend it or excuse me Teresa Gould could be her she could be her spinning it the way she you know to in order for it to look better but i i can see this in there look there are going to be a lot of there's going to be some teams left out of those two ginormous conferences in the big 10 three big ginormous conference there's going to be some teams left out pretty good teams that you could swoop up and bring on in i want to think of san diego state in a better position than sorry i keep saying north texas or texas state i feel like they're not in the same kind of realm and san diego state here's another thing about not going into the big 12 do you want to be in my opinion a doormat forever because you'll never get off the ground with all the other great schools in the conference that can't go to we're talking about like them turning down the big 12 if they were to go to the big 12 the current football team that they have they're rebuilding it but it's not ready to compete with those big schools i agree i agree it wouldn't um i after hearing you know some of the details of of the big 12 and why it didn't work i agree with jadey i like that he gambled no doubt he definitely gambled in it you know initially it didn't look like the gamble was well when the pack 12 kind of collapsed and went to pieces but you know sometimes patience is a virtue and uh it seems it seemingly has worked out for the Aztecs to this point that's what pak 12 commission terisa gold said when might more members be added she said we haven't set a softer hard timeline at all because for us it's really about being patient enough to see what opportunities might unfold but also be aggressive enough to create opportunities on our own which i think is uh important because we need to wait until this whole conference is filled out before we can really be matter angry at it yeah no i i 100 agree um case you missed it uh shohail tani is the first member of the 50-50 club 50 homers 51 stolen bases at this point i did see him uh say that he's had no discussions at all about pitching in the postseason and he kind of he kind of indicated that it may be kind of tough for him to be informed to to pitch in the postseason because that's that that's how desperate they are that they were that people are talking about him coming back when he was they had announced or long ago that he wasn't pitching all this year that he's going to pitch the most intense time of the year but sounds like that might be a long shot i went on a dodger's reddit the other day just to see what everybody's saying and everybody's very worried about the pitching tony yeah i don't know i mean starting pitching is not very good for the dodgers right now they they're struggling all around with pitching and so that's going to give up aprons but um the uh gosh where was i going with that oh that people have the most pressure in the playoffs and uh Dave Roberts was on the list is number four keeping his job of terms is just pressure overall erin boone was the number one manager of the Yankees i think that he does have a ton of pressure i believe Bryce Harper was number two and then number three was aj prohler which i found very weird that aj prohler was in this they're all over them and i got players coaches yeah it's kind of a weird let me get the fifth one but but it's kind of a weird little um list that they put together but i think that Dave Roberts mike Elias gm somewhere mmm on top of my head mike Elias mike Elias but that's who they have it in fifth um Orioles gm oh that's why why i didn't know i think everything makes sense except for aj prohler being number three i think Dave Roberts is on the chop he's got like a young he got like one of the youngest teams out there but they're falling right now they're fading right now yeah but what do you think Dave Roberts don't you think he has more pressure than aj prohler aj prohler has put a team on the field that they put they put Dave in front of aj no they're put Dave after aj uh it'd be pretty hard to say aj's going in with pressure after the year he's had i don't know that he's made a i don't think he's hit the wrong button once every move he's made has turned into gold yeah arise sorry yeah excuse me cease first that one popped off then arise that one popped off then Solano and Peralta those popped off and then every pitcher he's brought in uh via the deadline all popped off so like i i think he can't cuz unfortunately he can't control anything once it goes to the postseason like he can have some impact on when the regular season happens he gets to you know put the team together as he has along with the staff and then mike shilton his staff but after that what's the post he post he's a star it's all it's all on the players at that point you know players make like major additions during the postseason not really yeah i was gonna say you get 26 you got to turn that in the day before the series starts or whatever the time frame is and you run him out there see what happens so nay also says that aj won the soto train he sure did like so like it he has not made a bad deal since the season ended last year yeah everything has been money even you know do we who we're trying to think that we have i mean let's not forget the pro far deal he signed him to a one-year deal one million dollar deal which is even crazy which is even crazier and he's gonna have to really think hard about what's gonna happen with pro far this next season i think fans are putting a little bit of pressure on the organization to bring back pro far for the rest of his career it's gonna be tough man you gotta think i mean cams are free agent pro far is a free agent kim may be we don't know if we don't even see kim the rest of this year sure so it's tanner scott he's uh he's kind of like a rental i think tanners are free agent so it's got to be this year no it doesn't win no i need to be this year yes we wanted to be this year for sure i feel like this team has it in feel it yeah man he said it's it's it's so fun to watch the team as a collective they do such a uh they make it fun to show up to the ballpark it and watch them on a daily basis i mean yeah you're there every single night i can't even imagine my friend was there on to tuesday night when they lost and he said it was just such a crazy atmosphere he was exhausted by the end of the game you know one thing that does suck uh about doing the games on tv and radio is that you don't like because i have the headphones on like all the time i don't really get to like hear it hear it hear it like i knew the game was crazy on uh saturday but i don't think i understood how crazy it was when everything was happening you know i'm trying to you know discuss what's happening you know we got my man taking off his shoe and sock trying to you know this by the way you and don were great that was hilarious it was hilarious i don't think i've ever seen anything like that my man what is that going to prove well my man was he's got the mark on his foot it hit him not hard yeah i guess so that's what i'm saying and it was funny the irony is that this happened to him in new york earlier yeah and he got ejected he didn't take off his shoe this time this time he's like you know what i i'm just gonna have to show you you guys don't believe me if i'm gonna get injected i'm gonna take my shoe and sock off that was pretty hilarious but everybody had to make the joke after about don't take my shirt off and when he did it on everything i love i had to stop myself from saying don't take my shirt off thank you it was in it was like it was yelling in my head and i had to like turn it off i had so many listeners like DM me saying like don't take my shoe off i definitely thought about it for sure all right uh let's get to break when we come back gwen and scravy's NFL pick him oh it's gonna actually gonna be crass remember here's traffic all right indeed last segment of the day thursday night football follows we got gwen and chris or gwen and scravy's NFL pick it's time for tony and chris to face off playing for a season long prize of pride i see pride i see boy the guys make their picks and then they stress over their picks all weekend no please no no no gwen and chris NFL pick up starts now i currently in my head had a big week last week my upset pick hit can't remember who it was though it was a good one i think you did you pick the falcons who did they play eagles no that was one of my i think that might have been one that i lost but oh i think chris are you chris out of the survivor now i'm out of the survival chris is out too did he pick the eagles too i think he did we're all three of us are out yeah i just ordered the early i just ordered the belt today too a championship belt um all right so you're leading what nine to six no nine to six he said six tonight i know i did i said i'm 16 oh i missed the teen part of it yes yes so in this week i'm a key track of who would i pick i can't remember my up sick pick was money i picked it i'm gonna go back and look because it was it was a good one but anyway my first pick three three point pick today i'm going with baker really go back back it might have been baker last week who did they play uh lions yes that was my pick that was a good pick that was a damn good pick i must say i'm going right back to baker baby he's a good example of why you should stay patient with young draft picks that's a good point you know i'm saying like you had a bad first year good second year kind of bad third year and has gradually gotten better because he's had some i don't know same system and been able to kind of players around it it's funny how that works good coaches around now baker all right three point pick i was actually going to pick that one actually you need to get in the right voice before you pick oh i'm so sorry hey tony have you had to make sure i was in the right mind before i started this uh okay i need to make this a bit quicker um i am going to go with the radar i was gonna be my two point pick i didn't did think you'd go there i did you did i did all right my two point pick gosh these aren't really good ones today do i trust erin yet i don't know not bad we'll go erin rogers in the jets j-e-2-6 and a half point favorites over the new england hats we'll show you those great time is of the essence i know it is now i know why this is so stressful for you guys oh my gosh i'm gonna go with the Seattle Seahawks over the tool is Miami Dolphins all right i feel that it's in chicken my one point pick how about we go i guess i'll take i guess i'll take the cleaving browns then one point pick they six and a half point favorites too ready to spread uh quickly i'll just go with the 49er seven and a half point spread over the rams rams are decimated with injury course you did no puka no koopa cop why don't i see that one on here from the back oh oh dude do not blame this on did you not know there was a whole back maybe we'll redo this in the break then but at this point we need to change if we need the do you want to change any of yours i absolutely want to change it okay why would you like to change give me sensey for number two number two that's my number two pick okay two point big now are you still thinking browns one point no heck no oh why are you took the 49ers oh i'll take buffalo it's not one for one point yeah okay the upset my upset pick oh give me the Arizona Cardinals over the troy okay sorry you try to pick against y'all twice now my upset pick is going to be oh my gosh you're jett's big i did i'm gonna go oh i'm gonna go falcons over cheese all right so let me make sure i got this right bangles bucks first but bang excuse me bucks bangles buffalo can't bbb b b upset cardinals i went radar Seahawks niners upset caucus all right that's going to do it for our show Manny Machado on friday tomorrow love it more go into chris tomorrow have a good night