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9.16.24 Gwynn & Chris 4 pm: The Big 5

The guys played some Chris vs the Fans, talked about some NFL News & Notes, and The Big 5!

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You'll get started with $200 in bonus bets guaranteed when you place your first $5 bet. That's fandul.com/sportsfan. Never waste a hunch and make every moment more with FanDul, an official sports book partner of the NFL. Must be 21 plus and present in Colorado. First online real money weights are only $10 first deposit required. Bonus issued is now a throwable bonus bet set expire seven days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fandul.com. Gambling problem, call 1-800-522-4700. Hi, here we go into the four o'clock hour. Happy to be with you. Gwen and Chris, Chris Elo, Tony Gwen Jr., Mr. Scrabe, the Odyssey Palace studios, Tony's down at Petco Park. He's running around again following a fun edition of the good, the bad and the ugly. Yeah, a lot of ugly this week, a lot of ugly. You know, we didn't even get in the panthers and how ugly they were again. We don't need to, everybody knows. Bryce Young has been benched already as quarterback and good old Andy Dalton is back starting in the NFL. Gee, where would the league be without that? Well, I do think Andy Dalton is a blueprint for how to make a career in the NFL. He's been going somewhere and then stay in the good side of people and just keep finding lousy quarterbacks to back up and then you'll get your opportunity. Other NFL notes, I mean, there's a lot of, a lot of them big ones today. Cooper Cup to the IR, not yet, but missing many games. Yes, ankle injury. Rams are already without Pukka Nakua. Miami Dolphins are going to sign Tyler Huntley as a backup quarterback to Skyler Thompson, but this is the interesting thing to me to a tag by law still not placed on injured reserve. Mike McDaniel says they need more information. Tagivola says he plans on coming back and playing despite the fact everyone's telling him to retire. You know what that means, Chris, if they didn't put him an IR, he'll be back before four weeks is up. Awesome. And if he plays like he did Thursday night before the injury, it's not going to matter a whole hell of a lot. You know, Zaya Pacheco is out six to eight weeks. That's a bummer for that. That hurts the Kansas City Chiefs, but they are looking to replace him with Kareem Hunt. Why don't you bring P Diddy in to run for you? And there's, you know, these videos of these guys, I don't understand how they keep getting jobs. I just don't, but that's, you know, I guess not for me to determine. Justin Herbert has some x-rays today on his leg after being hurt yesterday. He got snapped in half. No, he's fine. I mean, did you see the play? Oh, he got snapped. Oh, yeah, he got snapped in half. His legs were underneath the player. And he got like high load. It was so bad. He's okay. I think Justin Jeffers is going to be okay. But out with a quad, they didn't say anything today yet. Jefferson. He didn't interview after the game yesterday. So that tells me that he's fine. Oh, he said he's fine. But you know, they can say that they see what happens. Baseball wise, Padres. Fantastic. Weekend over the Giants, three game sweep, shut them out the first two games, beat them in extra innings yesterday, Friars, three and a half up on the wild card and only three and a half back of the Dodgers. Dodgers play the Braves today. Mets are hosting the nationals. If you're wondering, keeping scoreboard Arizona's at Colorado, Padres and Astros do start a three game set tonight. You Darvish back on the mound for San Diego against the AL West leading stros. They're four and a half up in their division, by the way. All right. So I think you're pretty much caught up with everything that you need to be caught up on. Scraving anything I leave out there in a quick recap. No, I don't think so. Okay. Well, then let's get to today's round of Oh, wait, I do have one thing. Okay, sorry. We're going to give away not only our usual prize today in the daily gambit or the Christmas, the fans are usual qualification for trip to Las Vegas. We're also going to give a pair of tickets today for tastings in the wine in beer garden at the La Jolla Art and Wine Festival. It's kind of a hoity-toity thing for our listeners. Scraving. It's coming up on a, I don't know how many of you out there, you know, frequent the Art and Wine Festival in La Jolla. I think a lot. I hope so. But you'll be a lot, you'll be able to go September 29th. It's a free event featuring 160 fine artists and loads of family fun tickets are required to enter the wine and beer garden. They can be purchased to the LJ AWF dot com. So we're going to give some tickets to that. But in the five o'clock hour, I got tickets to Wednesdays Padres Astros game. Stick around for that as we play Chris vs. the fans now. If you had one shot, one opportunity to take down the human all menack himself, how would he do? Now is your time. Listen to me, this guy, strangers. Now is your opportunity to win a prize. Well, I hope you know what Gen 4 Chris vs. the fans starts now on 97.3 the fan. All right, you have to make it through. Let me start that over the rules. You have to make it through three questions. Each question will get more difficult. If you get the question right, you move on. If you get it wrong and Chris gets it right, you're eliminated. But if Chris gets it wrong, then you move on to the next question or you win. If you're a first time play up, let us know before you get into it and you will get the first question for free today. Chris vs. the fans is presented by SD fat loss. We lose 20 to 30 pounds in just 60 days with SD fat loss dot com to schedule your free consultation. Final Chris vs. the fans for a little bit everybody. I have yet to figure out what we're going to do instead. Yes, we haven't really announced everybody that I'm going on a vacation here. Yes, basically, the Padres are sending me away. Yeah, they're like, don't come back until the playoffs start. They're like, so you bad mouth our team too much. Yes, right. I'm too negative. So yeah, I'm going to be out for a little while. Got a little trip planned here with the honey. So we're going to have some fun. But are you going to do it? Do you know if you're going to go in versus the fan? I don't think it can happen. I don't think it can happen. He's got to get ready for ball games. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll figure something out. You'll figure something to earn. Not Tony Adams in here with me. So we'll have some sort of game to be played at this time. I think you can just do scrapie versus the fan. You forget the answer to most of these questions anyway. That's what I was about to say. It's like, who's going to do the questions? I don't know what you're going to do under those circumstances. I wake up in the middle of the night sometimes, Chris, like thinking about questions. It's it's as you should. I should. All right, we already said the prize. We already did all that. Let's go to our first contestant. No, I don't think we did rules. Yeah, we did because I didn't say play. Yes, you did. I did. Yeah, really way out of it. Yes, you did. Let's go to Ricky. Hello, Ricky. Hey, what's up, guys? Not too much. Are you ready to play? Uh, yeah, I am at first time. Play. Good. Good. Good to have you with us. Thanks so much for being with us. Yes. Here we go. Hope you win in your debut. Question number two. The last Cowboys Super Bowl victory came over what team? Oh, I'll need to go these seven, six, go 49ers, that would be really hard to do. They play in the same conference. Uh, I think it was a Steelers. I think I watched that game in Alaska. That's random. Yeah. For some reason, I remember that. That was the game the Steelers tried the onside kick at the beginning of the second half or early in the second half. It almost turned the game around. They were driving for a winning score, but Neil O'Donnell, yeah, quarterback through the ball right to Larry Brown twice. Wow. Larry Brown was MVP for standing there and catching the ball. And then he signed like a billion dollar contract with the Raiders who were like, what the hell did they just do? Because he wasn't even very good, but he was Super Bowl MVP. You know, um, I remember that. Does it surprise you that I was extremely mad at the Cowboys because D. How old were you for that game? 10. Yeah. So because there was 95, I believe. Yeah. Deon went from the 49ers to the Cowboys and it really bothered me and then he was running around and yeah, I'm sorry about that. Yeah. Thank you for being caring about that. You're welcome. Let's go to our next contestant. We're going to go to Lance. Hello Lance. Gentlemen. Gentlemen. Here we go. Question number one. Coming into today, which baseball team has the most wins in all of baseball? Philly. Philly's is correct. We're losing there for a little bit. All right. Here we go. Question number two. What was the nickname of the Minnesota Vikings defensive line from the late 60s to the 70s? Boy. The purple people here. That a boy. I am just hoping that Lance knew because I said, I said, oh boy, because you know, I know those 70s. Yeah, that's a great name though. Isn't it a purple people leader? I do love it. Yeah, they didn't need anybody in the Super Bowl. So they got clobbered every time they went to the Super Bowl. So they were really good before that. All right. Here we go. Question number three. Get this right. Chris gets the wrong and you are going to the Wine Festival and the La Jolla Food and Wine Festival and also the qualification for Las Vegas. Two Padres pitchers are in the top 10 for strikeouts this season. Name both. Which two Padres pitchers? Yeah, go ahead. He's still in the sea and Michael King. Wow. Give the man the title. Ricky the Lance in the game is over. Way to go Lance. Anybody comes up with purple people leaders. Deserves the title. It's good by you. Yeah, very good by me. They had some great names back then. They had the fearsome force them from the Rams. They had the steel curtain for the Steelers and they had doomsday defense for Dallas. They had the no name defense for the Dolphins back in the 70s. Which still angers, I'm sure. No, they took it as a prideful thing. They went and what happened there. They played the I think it was the Cowboys in the Super Bowl and they asked Tom Landry about the Dolphin defense. He said, well, they're pretty good, but they're just a bunch of no names. So the Dolphins took that and they went to Super Bowls and calling themselves the known name defense. And I think it served them in the realm of they played as a team. It was like they didn't want to focus on any individuals. So they they used it to their advantage. But there were some really good names. Yeah, fearsome force them with Deacon Jones and Merlin Olson and doomsday with Ed to tall Jones. Come on. You need nickname Scrabie, right? Like in the day Deacon Jones. That wasn't his name. His name was David Jones. How exciting would that have been? Now here's the here's the quarterback. He sacked by David Jones, but Deacon Jones. Now you got something. He took his head off. He did take his head off. Deacon Jones invented the term sack. Oh, really? Yes. He said they asked him what it was like tackling the quarterback. And he said, well, it's like I go in there and I get grab all the quarterbacks and I put him in a big sack and I just beat him. And they started calling it a sack. I do. I do. Deacon Jones was a little crazy Scrabie. Okay. I do love old school stuff like that. It's like putting him in a sack and just grabbing him and just beating the sack. That's how sack came about. Ed two tall Jones for the Dallas Cowboys. Now he was tall, but he wouldn't have been much of a guy if he just rushed the passer as Ed Jones. Yeah, that's a scary buddy. No, but two tall Jones. That was a that was a mythic figure. Mythic. It was man. The NFL was in that regard. It was better back then. I think the rate is ran around in those days with the who they have. Oh man, they were just tearing people's heads off. I had someone just text me saying that their softball team growing up was named the purple people. Very good. Good job by you guys out there. Yeah, the Raiders, if you ever want to see some illegal football, just type in the name George Atkinson. So safety for the Raiders back in the 70s. He'd never tackled a single player. He just waited till you ran across the middle and then he closed line you. Simple as that. Whether you had the ball or not, that's and it was legal like they didn't even throw a flag on the guy. That's why when football was crazy back then football was crazy, Chris, like 10 years ago and think about it back then. They weren't taking guys off the field of data concussion. They just, you know, took them to the sideline, rub a little dirt on it and, you know, send you right back out on the field. Sir, what's your name? I don't know. Oh, he's ready to go back. He's ready. Yeah. Do you know what Jersey number? We're wearing white. Good. You're good to go. What? We'll get out of the sky. Get out out there. Oh, he said red. It's okay though. He's in. All right. Good job Lance. The purple people leaders take him to the title today. We'll take a break. Morgan and Chris on the way by the way, Lance, you're going not only the Vegas thing. Did you read that? The whole thing? No, you didn't read the whole thing. I'll read it to him in the break. Read it to him in the break, but he's going to the wind hotel or the encore and he's seeing the show awakening if it's the grand prize. It's not like we're late on something. Yeah. And then he also gets the tickets to the wine and food tasting festival. Lance, that's an event worthy of somebody who knows who the people, purple people leaders are. Got the latest on Shohei Otani? Pitching in the post season? Update when Gwyn and Chris resumes. Hey NFL fans, you can start the season with a big return on Fandal, America's number one sports book. So when you get a hunch in the middle of the game, you can check out the latest stats, view live play by play, and so much more on the same page where you place your bets. You'll get started with $200 in bonus bets guaranteed when you place your first $5 bet. That's Fandal.com/sportsfan. Never waste a hunch and make every moment more with Fandal, an official sports book partner of the NFL. Must be 21 plus and present in Colorado. First online real money weights are only $10 first deposit required. Bonus issued is now with drawable bonus bets that expire seven days after receipt restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fandal.com gambling problem call 1-800-522-4700. This episode is brought to you by progressive insurance. Whether you love true crime or comedy, celebrity interviews or news, you call the shots on what's in your podcast queue. And guess what? Now you can call them on your auto insurance too with the name your price tool from Progressive. It works just the way it sounds. You tell Progressive how much you want to pay for car insurance and they'll show you coverage options that fit your budget. Get your quote today at Progressive.com to join the over 28 million drivers who trust Progressive. Progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates, price and coverage match limited by state law. I hope for free time we're going to cover a couple of different things here including and Shohei Otani's potential post-season pitching plans. Crisello, Matt Scrabie, together in the Odyssey Palace, studios, Tony Gwen Jr. at Petco Park, Padres and Astros. Tonight. One thing about Shohei Otani, he just came up to bat here to lead off the game against the Braves. And he, I just, his culture is fantastic. You know who he just tipped his cap to when it came up to get ready to get into the batter's box? No. Like actually faced the person tipped his cap and then stepped into the batter's box. The only thing I could think of is like Bobby Cox or something. Well, Bobby Cox, no, I don't think so. Does he pass away? I don't, I don't think he did. It's close, but it's close call. But he didn't, I think he did. I'm going to look what you're saying. Adam's listening somewhere and he's like, you idiots. I don't think he is. No, he didn't tip his cap to the catcher. He didn't tip his cap to the umpire. He tipped his cap. No, he's still alive, Bobby Cox. Bobby Cox. Okay. He tipped his cap to the guy, the in stadium camera guy who was running out on the field shooting him come up to bet. You know how they, wow, yeah. There's a guy on the field always with the camera. As these guys come up, Joey, Tony tipped his cap to him before he stepped into the batter's box. Well, when you get that media training, you know, I guess so. You always know where every camera is so you'll get caught betting on things. All right. I know I'm going to take a shot. No, you know, I thought it was kind of an interesting, I was like, Hey, this guy salutes everybody. Show how Tony is hard to hate. He because you found a way though. He's, I don't hate him. Yes, you do. I think he's annoying. He got away with one. I think he's annoying because he deferred 600 about 90 million dollars of 700 million, but I don't find that annoying if I'm a Dodger fan. Anyway, he's up at bat. The Dodgers and Braves are underway. Now, before the game, Dave Roberts was asked about show hay, potentially pitching in the postseason. Remember we talked about that a little bit? Yes. Last week, Dave Roberts said he's not ruling it out entirely, but he said it's really a long shot. So that's where that stands. Dave Roberts, not going to totally pigeonhole himself just in case. But I really get the feeling Dave Roberts is not planning on showing a pitching in the postseason. One guy is not going to pitch in the postseason's glass now. He's pretty much done now. Tyler Glass. Now he's not going to be pitching at all in the battle thing. So then look like I had another setback. He's done done. He's done. Let's let's talk about that for a second. Yeah, because like a Tyler Glass now seems like a nice guy too. So I don't want to be too. Okay, but you think he's but he never finishes. He never finishes a season. I don't understand how these teams don't take that into account when they pay these guys. I don't disagree with that. You would think somebody like Glass now who's been hurt like 16 or 17 times the Dodgers before they gave him all that money would take that into consideration. I don't disagree with you, but I mean, screw it up because they'll be like, Hey, we'll give you 200 million dollars. But when he was pitching, he was, you know, as good as there was in the league. But yeah, it doesn't do you any good when you're not pitching. Speaking of guys that can't stay healthy, we jumped to football. And this is what you get. You personally get me. Yes. Oh, I think you're talking to everybody out there. No, I'm talking to you. This is what you get personally for not, you know, just doing the right thing and applauding your best friend, Kevin O'Connell, for beating the 49ers. Now the tables have turned on you. 49ers wide receiver, Debo Samuel, calf injury, gonna miss multiple weeks. Talk about a guy. Oh boy. Yeah, he doesn't stay healthy either, right? No, it just really bothers me. I'm sorry. It just really bothers me. The soft tissue injuries, Chris, really bother me. I need to see a bone maybe this guy should have gone into badminton instead of football. It should be like that. Yeah, if you're to get too many soft tissue injuries, it doesn't work. Did George Kittle have a bathroom emergency yesterday? That was another aspect of that 49er game. I was watching playing against Kittle in the fantasy. And yeah, they said third quarter, George Kittle just went off to the locker room on a cart. I was like, Oh, no, he's out for the season. I didn't think that. I just thought, at least I don't have to play him the rest of the day in fantasy. Next thing I looked up, he was catching the ball and making 15 20 more yards. Apparently, it was not a bathroom break, Scrabie. Apparently, he was a little dehydrated. That's what they say. They say cramps. The cramps could be anything, right? Could have been a bathroom. Fair enough. Could have been a crap. But maybe yeah, can you imagine? Well, all right, I don't want to get too. I don't want to understand the cramps. Let's not go with this. But how do I say this? This is really, really good. I'm struggling. I'm struggling. Cover your, cover your little kids ears. Now, I mean, sometimes you have to go, and it wouldn't hurt to have a cart to get you where you need to go. Yes, right? Are you kidding me? Like, could you imagine having to walk off in front of 40,000, 60, 80,000 people doing the waddle doing kind of the, the waddle to the locker room? So I can see that maybe that's why he needed the cart. But he did come right back in the game. Like, there was no problem at all. When I was a drinker, I used to have massive stomach problems, but wonder why that might play. I was golfing one day, Chris, and my stomach was killing me, and I was all the way out on like hole number 12, and there were no bathrooms. So I had to, I had to hoof it. Maybe we should just kind of know. I know I made it. I made it, but it was brutal. I can't even imagine doing it in front of a bunch of people of a stadium. I think we've all been there in one way or the other. So Deebo Samuel out joins Christian McCaffrey, 49ers, you know, to me, I'm only saying this, but I still think they're a Super Bowl team, but not for a while. If Chris McCaffrey comes. Well, they're not a Super Bowl team right now. I mean, they're missing two guys. I wish to, you know, they're playing the Rams this week. The Rams don't have Puka Nakua nor Cooper Cup, who's now out. Yeah, the Rams are terrible. It's going to be a weird game this weekend. There were no two teams terrible. All right, so, and there was one other thing I wanted to do in this potpourri segment, but yeah, it's kind of escaped me. Wasn't someone said George Kittle soil himself? No, he did not. Wait a minute. You don't know that for sure. I think we would have heard about that. I mean, since you out, you do? I think that would have become new. You think that would have been Oh, you remember the best thing somebody would have told you somebody would have announced that from the 49er locker room. The reason George Kittle left the game is he's soiled. Well, don't you think like the other team would be like smell it or something? All right, this is the worst segment we've ever had. No, it's not. That's it. It's the worst thing. Okay, last thing. Remember when Lamar Jackson? What do you mean last thing? I'm giving you another shot at this when Lamar Jackson had to waddle into the locker room during Monday night football. You remember that that he came out and he was like a new man. It's a big five time. We have got to get out of here quickly to save ourselves. Dodgers did not score in the first Mets nationals are scoreless in the second. Padres Astros later Diamondbacks Rockies in a little while scoreboard update. It's about the only thing I can think of after that segment. It's that time of the show when we check on the latest in sports, only the most important topics and questions are brought to light. Stop what you're doing and listen. These news stories will astound and amaze you. The one, the only. Oh my god, who the hell cash. Wow, I can't believe it guys that we are just two weeks away from the majorly baseball regular season being over. Seems like the season went really fast and really slow all at the same time. I don't know how Tony feels, but that's at least to where I feel. You can speak for yourself. I was going to say it's much different when you're there every single day doing working. So in yesterday, let's just get into it. Yesterday, the Padres won an extra inning game and this year they're nine in one in extra inning games, which is a massive improvement over last season where they went to and 12. It's the complete opposite from last year and there is one theory being brought forth by Jake Cronanworth as to why it's changed. He said yesterday, quote, think the biggest thing is we're not putting that pressure on ourselves to make it happen. It's just a continuation of the game. We go out there and have good at bats. It's not like it's turning into this thing where guys make it bigger than what it is. End quote, Chris, what is the biggest force behind this turnaround? There's two things and I don't disagree with Jake at all. I'm sure that they have that feeling and they have that confidence in the dugout in the locker room and I think that has a lot to do with it. I think the main reason they're winning in extra innings this year is because they have a better bullpen than anyone. And when you get to the extra innings, it's a battle of bullpen and I'm going to take the Padres bullpen almost every time. So I think that's probably the best, you know, tangible reason. But there's one other thing at work here and I want everybody to understand that I have not used this phrase all season. I know where you're going because last year the phrase did not work and the phrase is water finds its level. Last year I kept saying it and it never happened. Guess what? It's happening this year. Water has found its level. You go from two and 12 to nine and one, baseball, that's how it works. So those are the things for me. Tony, what's the biggest force behind this turnaround in extra innings? I agree with Jake from a 20,000 foot view, right? They not putting the same pressure on herself. It does seem like a continuation of game. I think the bullpen would be a real short-sighted because the Padres didn't have that bullpen until August 1st. And so all the games prior to that, they did pretty well without that bullpen. And I think it boils down to the foundation that was built early in camp and Mike Schilt, you know, making it a priority that these guys can situational hit and that they paid attention to what the scoreboard was. And that kind of bleeds into what Jake is saying. But yeah, it's a continuation of the game because they've been doing it for the entire game. And so it's not as though they need to put any pressure to just continue to execute the way they have. And that's led to a fantastic record in extra innings. You got to remember, you know, Padres have it started on the at home, when they're at home, they're not starting hitting. You know, they're pitching first when they go to the top of 10. So yeah, you got to be able to hold there. But the Padres have also done a terrific job on the road of scoring first and scoring multiple times. So I just think that they've done a good job of not making it too big. But more importantly, this is a part of who they've been the entire season. And I think that's why it's materialized the way it has. Has water found any level at all, Tony? Well, yeah, technically, yeah, last year, you win. In extra innings, no matter what they tried, except at the very end. And in this year, they can't seem to lose. I mean, yes, water has found its level. It took for Chris. It took a long time, but it finally happened. Yes, yes, it did. Four bangles star receivers for unsportsmanlike conduct in the fourth quarter of their loss yesterday to the Chiefs, falling in interaction that officials say crossed the line. Now the issue behind this whole flag and crossing the line to the referee stems from a hip drop tackle that Jamal Chase thought what should have been called on Trent McDuffie. Anyway, it's a controversial tackle. We've talked about a lot on this show and it happened a lot yesterday with a lot of commentators saying it's kind of crazy that they only send notices out during the week with fines for people who do this and not penalize them on the field. So Tony, should they be penalizing players on the field for hip drop tackles? Wait, so it's not an actual penalty? They can't call the penalty. I think it's supposed to be, but nobody's called one. Yeah. And so then they find you during the week. I hate it. I'm glad that they can go back and look at the fine, but they need to be penalized. And usually I'm so surprised with the NFL officials because usually when there's a new where we're introduced, they go hard. They usually overdo it. They overdo it. And the fact that this one in particular has to do with kind of safety. The fact that they're not. I saw two I saw two of them personally. I saw the Chase one and then I saw the mixing one in the Texan game. Yeah. And neither of those were called. And you know, I didn't know that's what Jamar Chase got to the penalty for was for cursing out basically the referee for not calling it. But after I found out, I feel him, especially in his situation. He is already playing when he feels like he should be getting a new contract. He's not going to negotiate the rest of the season. So I just want to caution every official. He's going to be a high alert all season long. You might get cussed out more than once by Jamar Chase because anything that he feels like is a detriment to his health, he's going to react. Now, you'd like to see him be able to hand it better. But in some ways, I understood where he was coming from being that irritated, knowing that could be a broken leg, a torn knee. And he hasn't got his bag yet. So yeah, man, I think they need to be calling these penalties because honestly that as much as we hate it when they go overboard, I think it sends the right message and then they can kind of course correct afterwards. But now everybody's going to be looking for it. And now as you start to call it, people are going to feel some type of way that you're reacting to the previous week's fodder that, you know, we're on the air talking about the referee's name is Alex Kemp. And they asked him after the game, what was said, he wouldn't reveal what he said, but he said it went from being like, he to the moment thing to a personal attack. So I can only imagine what Jamar Chase said. I can only imagine too. Chris, should they be penalizing players in the field for this? The Bengals should know by now they're not going to penalize any Kansas City Chiefs for anything. This is true. We already talked about this in the good, bad and ugly. So that's kind of the joke part of it. Chiefs seem like to get away with everything. But yeah, they absolutely should call it because players health is in question here. And I am surprised that they haven't overdone it the way they often do. But there's one other thing at work here and Tony touched on most of it. The Cincinnati Bengals ownership needs to take a little responsibility for these kinds of things that are happening with Jamar Chase. You continue to low ball your superstar players and they go out and they're playing angry because of the way they're being treated by you. Don't be surprised if they lose their cool and cost you a football game. I mean, look at their top two wide receivers have contract issues. The Bengals are not a good franchise. No, they have a good quarterback and a really good coach and defensive coordinator. But this is where the franchise hurts the team. Not taking care of players. They take it out on the field. I think that had something to do with it. I also think and I don't know what he said. So we can't totally comment. But as an official tie game or one point game, four minutes to go, third down. I'd like to see you be able to take a little bit more before the flag comes out. But again, we don't know what was said. It sounds pretty like I just imagine it being pretty bad. No, I know. I'm just saying, but still you can imagine you can imagine a dude who already as Chris just pointed out, feels like his organization isn't doing him right. He already feels like he's virtually out there playing, you know, somewhat naked and a big play happens. You can imagine the the the steam that was coming. I mean, you can see it. Joe Pearl was trying to calm him down and he did it. It was like he didn't even see Joe Pearl. He was still yelling when he got back to the bench. Chase was so quick. Yes or no answer on this. Tony, our hip drop tackle offenders playing dirty now. Yeah. Now you know that's a rule and you're still doing it. Yes. Okay, Chris. They're taking advantage of it until they get called for it. So I guess all's fair and loving war. Reports out of San Francisco are shedding more light on how Matt Chapman close his long term deal with the Giants. And it seems to have taken Buster Posey as the negotiator that closed the deal. Andrew Baggerley of NBC Sports, the area wrote, quote, "It was an ownership group that viewed re-signing Chapman as a slam dunk. It did not trust Farham's I-80 and Scott Boris to finish at the rim." End quote. While Posey's involvement did stem from ownership's impatience with Farham and the negotiations, it also allowed the Giants to avoid interference from Boris who was telling Chapman that San Francisco's offer could be a potential floor in free agency this winter, according to Baggerley. So I guess maybe Tony can explain this a little bit, but Luxury's I-80 didn't have his president of baseball operations like tampering maybe. Chris, you're up first though. Is this a bad sign for the future of Farham's I-80? And it's so confusing of a story. And until Tony tells me what the... Should we have Tony go first? Well, if anybody knows the facts, I mean, if Farham's I-80 doesn't have control to sign a player, not sign a player, then that is an issue. But it's really difficult to comment because I don't know the inner workings of the Giants. I accept your answer. Thank you. Tony, can you shed some light on this? Okay, well, you know, first of all, any report that's coming from an outside source, you have to be leery on things like he was being told that it was the floor of free agency. Who would have said that in this article? A person on the giant side? Probably. It probably wasn't somebody on the other side. So we don't actually know if that's what Boris was saying. However, I do think this is a problem for Zite because they have many times if they swing and miss the free agency. A lot. A lot. You call Tony. They had the Korea deal in hand. That ended up blowing up. He seems to be doing perfectly fine in Minnesota right now. And so the mere fact that Buster Posey had to step in and basically play GM in order to seal this deal, I don't know. If I'm in that ownership group, I'm kind of looking at some kind of way. We've missed out on Judge. We've missed out on Correa. There was somebody the free agency before that that I can't remember. But then we get Buster in here and he just knocks it out. And he saw the same thing that we do. And then it brings me to my next point. Maybe this should make Buster Posey, GM. Well, if Buster wants to be. I think he's going to go. He's like, I don't want to do this full time. I'll top it here every once in a while, but he'll do a guest appearance. I think the other thing is this is far right is certainly at the edge of, you know, analytics and how they view things. And, you know, when you're trying to put guys into these boxes that these analytics and stuff tell you, you know, why it should be a good deal. It almost looks seem like Zayi is looking for the perfect free agent deal. And it doesn't exist. The reality is when you sign these long turns with the exception of Barry Bonds, there's only one I can think of offhand that like lived up to his contract and beyond, right? Through the whole thing. After that, you're going to get diminished returns as they get older. That is just a fact. Every single one of them. So I don't know. It just almost feels like he's always looking for like the perfect deal. Can I get the right production for the entirety of this deal and so that I can, you know, feel good and that look crazy that I signed this guy. And I don't think those those deals really exist. I think all of us get old and we get less productive, especially in sports. And so yeah, I think this is, I think this could be a bad sign. Plus he's been there for a long time shelf lives on GM's. They don't, they ain't long. That's for sure. So yeah, I think this, I think this could be a bad sign for him. I just looked up kind of the free agent fails for the Giants real quick in Farhand and they were, they went after judges. We said, Oh, Tawny also was a guy. They went after Bryce Harper was someone they went after. Yoshinobu Yamamoto was a guy they went after. So there's a lot of swings and misses. No pun intended. Chris, anything on this? No, I got gave you what I had. And then Tony hit it all the time. I gave you what I had. Man, I just love that you're just putting forth every single ounce of effort into the show. Number two, welcome. He took it as like an insult. It wasn't an insult. L.A. PGA L.A. PGA Solheim cup, which is like the writer cup for the women. Team Europe member Charlie whole is enjoying a pretty nice year on the golf course and her popularity has risen a lot this year. Some people are not happy with a bad habit of her. So if you get seen this, she is one of the few pro golfers that still smoke cigarettes on the golf course. So she's even signing autographs while enjoying a nice dart. She's from England. So you know, I don't know that that's still a thing anymore where some countries are, you know, better smokers. I don't think it's fair to blame this on England. I think this anyway, blaming it on England. Someone's not the picture of her signing an autograph with a big old cigarette in her mouth. And they were like, shouldn't she probably not be smoking around children and around everybody else. So Tony, should the PGA tour, it's not against the rules, should the PGA tour to LPG tour ban smoking during their events? Is she outside? Yeah, of course. I don't know. It just seemed really weird in this day to see a professional quote-unquote athlete smoking darts as they're heading down the fairway. I know, I know it might seem outrageous to believe we don't see all professional athletes 24/7. That's true. There could be professionals. I'm sure many of them smoke, but between the lines, I think, is where? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think during the event, you know, if she's in action, they probably should, you know, have a no cigarette policy or at least have like a, you know, they got like a club house. Smoking Erie, she can't get back to the clubhouse, can't she? Come on, her duck into the porta potty in the seventh hole and have a quick, you know, drag. I think that was it. What, how long are you on the course? Usually four. Five hours probably. That's a long one. She said it helps her to calm down and. Hey, some smokers think it's a major league baseball to smoke a cigarette during their starts, you know, it's just really. We talked about Ed Witsen sitting in the end with in the hallway back in the day for the Padres. Yeah. What was the whole thing with House on Kim and smoking cigarettes? I can't remember at this point. He smokes cigarettes. Yeah, I mean, he did. I don't know. I got out on the field. I think the easy answer here is if you're between the lines, I mean, between the ropes, you know, please, you know, yeah, so is this bad? The ropes? Yes, it's between the ropes. It's doing like, it's a really bad. Between the ropes. Come on. I mean, she's representing the LPG. Yeah, I think they can slow down on this. Yeah, nothing. I do. Nothing like a good cloud of smoke going up in the air. That's pretty comical. I got to tell you. She hit a shot yet with a cigarette dangling from the left. No, I don't think she know. No, no, no, I never seen it. Between holes as she's going from hole four to five. Yeah, that we're walking down the fairway or just signing autographs. I know I've seen John Daley hit some shots with a cigarette. I've seen John Daley hit a shot daily out of a guy laying on the ground holding a tee in his mouth. So John Daley's done some crazy things. I think this is a bad look, though, for the LPGA. And I think they should step in. I do. All right. Don't be so serious. How about this bad look, but they should definitely, they should definitely rectify the situation. Number one, get her a cigarette sponsor. What happened to those? Marlboro, bring you the big old Marlboro LPGA tour event. I remember growing up seeing that kid thinking it was real cool. Okay. Used to have. I know this is something that only I would bring to the show, but yesterday during the Packers and Colts game, the Packers center was caught vomiting all over the field before the snaps saw them. I think this is disgusting, and this is gross and whatever else word I can think of for this. Colts defenders are right there, and they play through it, which credit to them. But Chris, should you allow to play if you were throwing up on the field during the game? I watched the clip, at least what I could see of the clip, and it came to light after the game because Matt LaFloor, the Packers coach, was asked why his quarterback ran a scramble on a third and long. And Matt LaFloor said he asked his quarterback, Malik Willis, why he didn't throw the ball. And he said, because there was throw up all over it. And they showed a clip of the flow grows. It looks like the center kind of threw up, just as he was snapping the ball. I don't think anybody could have blown a whistle in time. Yeah. To stop the action. Would they stop it? I think, well, I don't think they would either. I mean, look, Donovan McNabb famously was throwing up in the huddle in the Super Bowl where they didn't stop the clock is my point. Yeah. And it went back to, you know, the Eagles weren't, you know, playing fast enough. They were trying to catch up. I didn't hear that part of the story that there was throw up on the ball. And so that's why he couldn't throw up. That's what happened according to Matt LaFloor. So, but I think it happened too late for them to do anything. But I think in general, an offensive lineman's throwing up and they're just lining up. I think the rest can step in and stop the clock, get the, let the guy get together for a minute. I don't think that's a problem. Tony, what do you think about this? Should you be allowed to play if someone's thrown up on the field? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. They let him play bleeding on the field. So, exactly. We've seen the bloody socks. We've seen all kinds of things. Little puke. Although, I thought it was, I thought it was funny because you could see the lineman try to puke to the right of the ball. He did. He did. But it like splashed up. He just couldn't do it. He couldn't control it. I didn't even know that Malik ended up running on that play. Yes, he scrambled. He couldn't get a handle on the ball. That is too fun. And I tell you what, at that point, you know, a guy is really dialed in because, you know, in real life, if someone puked on the bar, are you touching it? No, of course not. Exactly. Like if someone, if it wasn't a game being played and someone puked on the ball, you're like, bro, timeout. Yeah. But I think a timeout is worn. I think it also shows just how intense and physical things can get in the trenches. I don't think we really realize what's going on down there sometime. It's like it's weak to these guys are still working their way into like full because it's no way to play none of the preseason most of the time. So, yeah, they're still working their way in the shape. So, I think you got to be able to play through it. Wow. That's not what I expected. You can rally, baby. I've done that many times in my life, but different, different settings. It's just like, I'll stop because I know I'm over the top of the germs. No, over the top. All right. That's it for the big five. 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