Not Your Common Conversation Podcast
Episode 24 | “Turn The Page ”
You got Chris in the booth, got one, two, all the lucky listeners will be doing for you, not your conversation, back with the new And we speak in the truth, like we need us to do Ain't not your comment, conversation, not your comment, conversation Not your comment, conversation, word is born and beyond and beyond Hello and welcome you lucky listeners to yet another Yet very special anniversary installment of Not your comment, conversation My name is Omar Henderson, I'm here with my partner Chris Downing and we have a guest with us Dominic Mendez and our engineer Brandon, I'm in here, what's up? Alright, what's up? Brandon, can you turn it up, man? I need to hear that golden voice, man First of all, they're not, I mean, I guess they're guests But, you know, they're, they're, we're occurring It's all fair, we're occurring Yes, exactly We're occurring, yes, okay Rotating friends Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Coming in and out of our lives So, so here we are, a year later A year later Starting this podcast called Not Your Common Conversation We've done all kinds of things We've talked about money, we've talked about sex We've talked about rock and roll We've talked about sex, I forgot about that We've talked about a whole bunch of stuff, man Talked about music, politics here, we just did, right? Yes, yes, yes Yeah, that's so I'm happy and proud, man, that we made it this far I am too, and looking forward to the future I think we finally landed on our niche Yeah, yeah We finally have almost, we haven't perfected what we do But, you know We're good now Yeah, we're starting to carve something really beautiful Stay tuned Here Carve something really beautiful So, you know, Omar, you and I talked earlier about Really this concept, guys, that we want to lay on you It's really asking a question, asking a question Like, what's your concerns And it could be, you could take that question And superimpose it on anything Like, what's your concern about the NFL? What's your concern about money? What's your concern about what's happening in social media? What's your concern about Shannon Sharpe? What's your concern? If I can't What's your, it couldn't have to be what's your concern It could be a question that you can put on anything Well, let me reference that, too Let me put up, let me like sharpen the focus of that So, last week, we began speaking about health And our personally, how it's showing up for us Chris shared about what he was dealing with Dealing with some health challenges, yeah And then it phased over into an aspect of mental health But not like, but in a way that all of us can actually identify with You know, quite honestly, I have a friend, you know, Lateef Who was a, he has a master's in crisis intervention Yeah, and one point years ago, he was like, you know, 75% of the people On this planet, or in this country, rather Are dealing with some type of emotional and/or mental Whatever, obstacle, right, obstacle So it is not a sexy subject, but it's a real subject We all go through health, whether it's mental, whether it's physical Right, exactly And so, so what Chris and I had arrived at this morning Was in paying attention to our mentality, our spirituality, our physicality, all the health There are things that we overlook Things that we dismiss That are very small And it's the detailed things that we just Eh, you know, I'll get to it later Or that's not that big of a deal right now Those detailed things that we overlook You know, in our thinking, in our being, in our health And all of that, it's those small detailed things We just, we just take for granted And then it leads to something else And you know, I would, as an example, and I can't give a clear example But in the thought process of, of, uh, no In communication, you know, we may excuse something Which reminds me of something else I'll get there later We may excuse a communication Not realizing the impact of that communication You know, we just may excuse it as Oh, it's just something that I said or It's not that big of a deal But over there, with that other person It was a big deal Right And the, and, and over there, it was a big deal And then it comes back on you eventually And so, you know, sort of Like something you say to your wife or Yeah, something you say to your lady Or a coworker or a friend, you know, you don't realize You're not conscious or present to the impact that it has Right, and then it comes back on you later on Because of the impact that it has And so, or that it had on them Thus it impacts you Thus it begins to impact all your relationships Because this is a way of being that you have throughout Not just you individually, but most of us We don't pay attention to the small things Right To the small things Until it becomes big Until it becomes big You know, it's- You've got to deal with it And when I was one of the things that, uh, Happened in my career as a healthcare professional I remember one of the doctors saying to me, you know, As far as African-American males is concerned They don't come- They don't come and see him until it's like drastic You know, Brandon, you're gonna drop some stats on this man About- about health, uh, you know, we're on the subject All right, yeah, yeah, he's- And we don't have to say on this, but I think it's important, man We'd like for our- our lucky listeners To be able to listen and- and also with the entertainment And the discussion to get some sort of To be educated or enlightened Or, you know, something they can To on- Yeah, well, you know, so the- our question- Our question to you, the lucky listeners and- You guys jumped on them Yeah, and to you our list for us, yes Is, you know, when you look at, you know, the things What you go through your daily lives and all that stuff What details, small details, do you just kind of Take for granted, if at all What, you know, is it- And in any area, it could be with your- your car It could be with your clothes It could be with your home It could be with your health It could be with your family And your relationship- Yeah, your relationships And we're not trying to have a therapeutic session here, but- But, you know, and I'll start the thing off So- so I have this clicking noise in my car That's been there forever It's been there ever since I've owned the freaking car Really, right? Yeah I mean, from- from every, every time And I just, you know, yeah, okay, it's just a clicking noise Well, a couple years later It's gotten so bad now that Sometimes, it jams up the right- the left front wheel Like, I'm rolling along and it just jams and locks up Do you mind divulging the year in a model? Oh, no Oh, okay No, yeah, so it's an all-wheel drive vehicle So it has a transfer case And it has- It's a BMW you don't wanna talk about? Yeah, sure, sure What year? 2009 2009 BMW- Okay 328xi So you have a transfer case You have a rear differential and a front differential All right It turned into a goddamn mechanic It's like my buck as a bitty Exactly Yeah, so I mean So, you know, that's just an example of something- small detail That I just kind of ignore That has blown up to something big, you know How's that made you feel, man? Is that- This is- Uh, actually- No, actually, that's a good question How- how do I feel about that? Um, I- I am- Huh I'm a little bit uncomfortable with the fact that Quite honestly, it lacks integrity towards me keeping a car pristine and in good shape 'Cause I ain't planning to- Yeah man, get that shit fixed, man I ain't planning to drive this car 'Till the wheels fall off You know, I'm not looking towards getting another car You're that guy I'm still making locks up Yeah, it's- Listen, it's two times you pay for a car When you buy it Right? And then to keep it on the road You keep it on the road And you know, honestly, I feel like It's not really smart to say Oh man, this car costs so much to buy To keep it running I'm just going to buy another one So you go from spending $200 a month To keep your car running You're spending $500 or $600 or $700 a month 'Cause you got a new car And you know where you're going to end up? At the end of that You know, financing and warranty Right back to spending Oh it's a racket, the whole- First of all, car check How's everybody's car doing? Everybody's good with you It's going good right now You're good? It's going good right now I have something, I'm driving this Subaru in Preza It's like a 2020 And the right hand passenger side door at the front I think it's called an attenuator So when you hit the boop boop Oh, it's not locking Oh, it does not So like, I can arm the car But if somebody were to go and If I was just trying to innocently walk up to it with my keys It goes off The alarm goes off Right, huh So I mean, otherwise it's fine But then I'm like, why is this happening? Yeah, exactly You guys were younger with y'all The car guys When y'all had girls around We had all the ones pulling up I wanted to be Yeah, I wanted to be But I think I was too practical Like, I mean, I'm going to have to really spend a lot And then insurance, that sort of thing Yeah, right Oh god, that was a big deal I didn't go to the car That was a big deal I, you know, just until recently I just get really Well, no, no, no, no I got the car Because really you just dealt with the car I can remember my first car Was a, um A yellow Nissan Sentry And I did not First of all, I liked sedans For some reason, I liked four-door sedans Right I wasn't necessarily into this I liked admire and admire sports cars But I wasn't And so, um I always liked the sedan I don't know what the practicality of it Yeah And so, you know, I can remember Man, I was like, okay, centred That's what I can afford Nissan Sentry It was like probably a 1981 or something 80 or something like that And, uh And I remember there was a blue one I really wanted that But very similar to the color blue You have on your car right now Like a, you have like a A grey blueish Okay Still kind of All right, yeah Slate or something And I wanted that kind of color And the guy was like, I remember going to the dealership out And I think it was Arlen to Virginia something He was like, uh, listen, young man This is what we got And you got shitty credit or no credit So this is what you're gonna have And I remember going, I guess this is it This is my only opportunity I don't want to screw it up I guess I'm gonna have the yellow submarine, right? And I had that yellow car, man And I got used to it The agent here, yellow I got used to it Until I crashed it into a boat And, uh, and then To a boat I was driving as a boat on the side of the road And I, I saw somebody I thought I knew I didn't know And next thing you know It is, I hit the boat It snagged my Something grabbed onto my car I remember it ripped the door The passenger door off And it was just, it was not good, man It was major, it was total It was total I was so impressed And I had to look at you now Yeah, look at me now, right? And so, I just, I was like, damn I remember, I used to rent, um, K cars I don't know if you were running a car Very generic, ugly, Chrysler Yeah, Chrysler, yeah Shitty Cox The box What do you mean by rent of you? You mean you, you're running them out I would rent them from, from the, you know Back then you could rent a car for nothing Oh god, you know, like, I think it was like 10 to 20 bucks a day or something You know, I would rent it for a week It was probably like, you know, I know 150 was too much So it was cheaper now, anyway I went on to answer your question About, you know, being younger And being a car person I did, I think my first car I really liked that I got Was a, um, Audi 50 Uh, 83, 80, 83, Audi 5,000 5,000, 5,000 G, I could tell Yeah, that was the joint Of course, they started rolling forward And killing people Is that what happened? Remember that 60 minutes piece, yo I didn't know that Yeah, for some reason They were just They would lurch After, after you park them Yes, so what's the, what's the most money That you will spend on a car period Let's say you have the most money in the world What's, what's the most money Oh, I have the most money in the world I spent on a problem Yeah, yeah, yeah I think it's not something you'd be like We've got it Spend $10 million on a car Like, you think they've spent $10 million Uh, yeah I would probably cap out it Um First of all, I'd probably get, uh A Ferrari Of all the cars that are out there We talked about that Why is it that Really, there's not many cars out there That hold their value Right, Ferrari Ferrari, all this value Um, Toyota, it's like a mug Yeah, we're saying each other I got a 99 Land Cruiser With almost, excuse me It still hasn't hit 300,000 yet I probably will Because I'm gonna already take it up to, um Uh, Eastern shortest weekend Um, shout out to St. Michael's I love St. Michael's Yeah, yeah, I'm going Okay And so, yeah, um Yeah, he said it too He's almost 300,000 300,000 99 Land Cruiser still road I'm trying to, I actually think Toyota, since we're talking about cars Omar's favorite subject I actually think Toyota is the best car On the road For the money Yeah, yeah, yeah Um, Porsche does hold its value Porsche does hold its value Now, I have a, I have a 1917, no, 2017 Tesla, S model And it is actually my favorite car I've ever got I think that's when it was doing Tesla right Around that time Yeah, I think so I mean, listen, it is the funnest car Yeah, I got a, I got a, I had a Porsche Cayenne prior to that Yeah And, um Was that fun? That was a fun car It was a pretty car The Cayenne Yeah I had no problems other than the high-ass maintenance They were, they charged $500 for oil change Wow They were giving me a deal I got it at the Porsche deal in Rockfield They were, they called themselves giving me a deal at $350 And I was like, what kind of, what are you doing? You're putting oil, you're taking oil out and putting it in with a filter, right? I don't get it And they were like, well, they would try to make it sound complicated And I was like, you putting oil in, right? What kind of oil are you putting in? You putting some gold shit? You got gold chips in my shit? What if they have to move something out of the way in the engine to get to it 'Cause you might be delivering it to justify design and engineering Right, right That's not my problem Right I forget what year it was, but at some point with Corvette If you wanted to change the spark plugs, you actually had to take the engine out That's the dumbest See, that's the dumb And it's expensive Yeah And it's expensive, like, hi, we got you, bend over Right, and this is a GM So, theoretically, it's not supposed to be there It's not right, it's right here in good old America, right? Yeah, I mean, so yeah, for me, I wasn't like the car guy But I did it, my car, to be honest, I always wanted a BMW I always wanted a BMW, there was a Mercedes It was probably like a early 19 Probably like a 1975 Mercedes convertible that I wanted This guy was gonna sell it to me I thought it was my car and it didn't happen And my feelings were hurting I said, "Oh, fuck cars, man" I mean, I bought my 2001 Land Cruiser, Toyota Land Cruiser '99 Land Cruiser in 2001 And I had that car I still have it, but that's the car I drove from 2001 all the way until just Oh, six years, five or six, five years ago Yeah, and I was good with it Brandon, you gotta say something Yeah, I had one more question This is tier 0.2 Omar, the earlier point And this is to all of y'all What do you think is more important? What you're saying to somebody or how you're saying it? That's a good question Well, you know, that's funny because That's a great question So that's a great question And I'll say this That, well, what's more important What you're saying or how you're saying it I would dare say I'm gonna throw something on top of that What's more important is how the person interprets it And whether or not they're capable of Actually hearing what you're saying Or being affected by how you say it That's the part we can't control So in the part that you can control Well, for me, I would dare say it's how I say it Okay, yeah, I would dare because I'm thinking about I'm thinking about myself quite honestly And whether or not what I'm about to say How I would take it, you know, you know The old saying If you can't dish it out If you can't take it, don't dish it out You know what I'm saying I mean, sometimes in moments of frustration I can be pretty blunt and straight and just deadpan But and and the only reason I allow myself to do that Is because that has happened to me You know what I'm saying? So it's like, okay, I survived that moment But on the same token, what's interesting And let's get I have another question But I'm not going to I'm not going to Let you guys go ahead and answer that question first I just without really thinking closely about it Like too deeply Shouldn't it sort of be what you say? Like so for example I can tell you this truth I can tell you the the raw, right? But if you get offended by it It's sort of like I'm just trying to be truthful and honest Not trying to insult you But this is just how I see it You know, this is how We keep ourselves from talking to people Or telling people certain things You know what I mean? Because it's like, well If I go and tell him the way I really feel Or like, I don't really like the way He does a certain thing Or she does a certain thing But people want to hear honesty, right? This is what they say That's what they say This is what they say But like, I can be telling you straight lies Just wrapped in sugar You know what I mean? And you you you you you You you you receive or you swallow it You know what I mean? Like, you know So you said it nicely, but you said But you said some more nonsense Yeah So, you know what I mean? Like, yeah How you address people is very important Very You know, we If you had to choose There was there was a guy I worked It's a tough one I worked over it, Mike Oh, I got something else to say But I remember this guy He said, um, because we dealt with The guy who thought he was our boss But he was it was funny And he I never forget this Because he he came into the room The guy who thought he was our boss And started just, you know, mouthing off, right? And I remember the guy just started there And I watched I watched the guy just ignore him Like, he wasn't there And he and the guy walked out Who thought he was our boss And he looked at me and said, man What do you call it? P.T.D Pitch tone and delivery He said, pitch tone, it's all about pitch tone How you come at me? Because he asked me to do something He came at him crazy Yeah It's the way he said it Right And so he said, as long as you come at me like that I'm just going to ignore you Right Pitch tone and delivery I never never got that Right Pitch tone and delivery Like, don't come at me crazy Now now now check this out So when in fact you want to say Something to somebody that can You kind of know that It can be received in a negative way One thing to do is turn it into a question Right Like, you know, say for instance If I didn't like the fact that you wore a purple shirt You know, I would say Say something like, hey man, why'd you wear purple today? That's kind of silly, isn't it? No, I'm just asking I'm just asking What? What happened? What's going wrong? I don't know Louis Vuitton What had you? What had you choose purple today? You know what I'm saying? Like, to open it up Yeah, you would open it up And so that way You don't objectify the person No, not sure You know, you kind of like leave it open Because, I mean, really You can't do that too many times After what I was like, whoa, whoa Well, no, but you can always You can, but it depends on where you stand Because if you stand in the space of being curious Sure Then you're always going to find New questions to ask If you stand in the place of being judgmental Then it's going to be hard to speak to that person Without them getting a sense of being judged True Right, so You can stand in the space of curiosity And, you know, this kind of reflects On the earlier question Like, what small details do we overlook? You know, so for instance, in the case of communication You know, it's a small detail To like, shift your context Like, right then and there How I'm going to approach this Right, that's a small detail You have the power to do that You know, we don't, oftentimes Consider that we have the power to do that We oftentimes consider ourselves to be At the effect of our move, the environment, whatever And then, so we just come in guns blazing Yeah That was a dumb-ass thing to do What do you think, Brandon? You got me As I get older That's the question As I get old, I always believe that is what you say But as I get older, I'm starting to realize how much people Shut down when you don't deliver it Like, P-T-D, like, pitched on delivery Like, people will just completely ignore you, shut down You can't get anything done So it's almost like If you can't come at him Side way Yeah, yeah, if you just decide to say If you just decide to live a life being like All right, as long as I'm telling the truth I don't care how you feel It's like, that doesn't really get anything done And I ask that question to kind of segue to I don't know if you guys are familiar But, uh, why receivers? How Raek Hill just had an incident with the police Yeah Oh, before the game And Miami before the game And then they were very, very aggressive on him Slammed him down to the floor And he and his back roughing him up Even though he just got knee injury All right And the conversation amongst our community has been Well, y'all know we black We can't get away with just talking to the police However, we won't turn away Yeah, so it's all like The fact that he was all like "Hey, yo, don't touch on my window like that Why are you hitting on my window like that?" And then talking Because he's like, this is a However, a $500,000 car Y'all know I'm to re-kill This lane is for football players I'm going to the game Like, there's not a threat for y'all lives Or anything like that right now So, I just feel like The weight a lot of people are saying Because he had an aggressive tone Right, they reacted to that Yeah, they reacted to that And that's the natural thing Yes, and I'm all like I don't know about that Because they're here to protect and serve So, well, they're human beings, though I mean, listen, I've been pulled over by the police When I was younger In fact, I've been arrested and thrown in jail And I've spent as long as two weeks in jail Wow But I actually had Even though that was that situation Must have been in Virginia Well, it was Virginia, it was Virginia, and PG County Oh, wow Back in the day, PG County is recent as probably Almost 20 years ago I did spend a weekend in good old commonwealth And I can even remember that I was glad you brought that up Because all the times I sort of neutralized the police Because they'll come at you crazy That's their thing I've even been pulled over Went to a football game Had two beers Police pulled me over And was like Looked, went all up And with the flashlight All up in my car And then looked at me I gave him my license And he said "How much have you had to drink?" I looked him and I and said "I don't drink office" Now I was lying But it's the way I went about He was like "Oh, okay, check everything came back" And said "Hey man, just be careful" "Yeah, nice" I defunct police all day Even when they threw me in jail Because they had no choice Because my license was suspended I did something wrong I was cordial with them And we had conversations On my way all the way So my experience Even being locked up Was like "Yo, this dude's cool" "He's cool" And I identified "How was your day?" "Oh man, wow, I find something That's commonality" And it's not sucking up It's just treating them like a human being So that they can treat me like a human being I set the tone But if you set the tone crazy And be aggressive That's a You would do that at a bar If somebody was like "Yo, you stepped into a person's toe" And they were like And you said "Excuse me" And they were like "Yo, fuck you" You'd be like "Well, you leave me no choice but to say fuck you too" Like, but if you said It happens most situations like "Excuse me, my bad" And they're like "Okay" And you go on But people have to know that, man Don't bring fire To fire 'Cause you're going to get more fire Well, yeah And on top of that Because we are human So what was being How can I say What they were both present to Was surviving Right, that cop was surviving Being told by a civilian Not to put his hands on his car So that cop was doing that And then Terry Kill was surviving Being stopped by a police officer While he's on it While being black And while he's on his way to work So it's like this whole survival thing Just comes out of nowhere Out of our heads I got to survive this situation However, that looks You know, being braggadocious Or arrogant or whatever And one survival Outburst triggers the other survival Sure, sure, sure And then it just becomes Two people trying to survive a situation Yeah, and they get on each other's nerve next But what's at stake though Is your life, right? 'Cause one person clearly has a gun On the side of that thing And that gun That's the biggest point Whether who fires it could be fired And it could potentially kill somebody And change the outcome of your whole day Yeah, in that moment They're judge and jury So they make all the decisions And they're human beings And yeah, so I'm sorry, go ahead Were you gonna say something down? No, no, well, go on, you can finish Well, I was gonna say So, you know, great conversation But remember the whole "defend the police" thing? Yeah Yeah So I wasn't necessarily for defending the police But what I am for Is Utilizing those funds So that goes guys On number one Trained in firearms Every week Trained in hand-to-hand combat Every week Trained in communications Like effective communication Every week So such that Because otherwise They are scared human beings With a gun and a badge Using that money for good use Yeah, using the money for good use And to add to that point I think we should have more Community policing in the sense that The police officers are from the community That they're policing Because Great point Yeah, environment is a big deal If you have all these people That's never been in this environment They're gonna Have different feelings than people Who grow up in that environment Towards the people in the environment So I think that It's important for that Training as well But If you see somebody that looks just like you Like I've never had a lot of problems With in DC with police Because DC has a lot of black police Officers like they'll see me there But like oh stop smoking that week Get out of here Get out of here Right, right, right, right Because they got real shit going on It's the city So they Right, right, right They're like I ain't worried about that But then again if we're in these communities And it might be Somebody that might not Be familiar enough of my culture They might see me and violate me in that moment Because they feel like they can It's the only time they get So it's a tough one Go ahead You know, blue class in '89 Messed up for everybody What do you mean by whoa, wow Dude, I don't know if you remember But that was In DC Southeast Yeah, yeah They had, I guess, some sort of hiring program The police Where they were targeting Seniors or people who were graduating From Boulou High School To be police or what? Yes, community or anywhere Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can believe that Sure And uh, it didn't work out well But you can google that Why? Because the police were off the chain Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah So I actually have this theory About, um, white police officers Um, and not just, not just white But yeah, white police officers Talk about being in these communities Who are not, um, from the community They don't identify I think sometimes They see a black person And because this country has a History of racism They don't see that black Man or young man or boy or girl Or young lady or woman In the same way that they see A white woman or a white man or white boy There, it's just, it's just Because we've been taught Yeah, listen And I say this And I'm, you know, unapologetically I feel like white men historically Especially in America And I think around the world Have taught people to not like Black people And the darker the more it is Even, even Black people They've taught us not to like Black people And so, you know So I can see it though At that time of adrenaline And all this emotions going on They've probably chased somebody down For the last half an hour 20 minutes, 10 minutes That you can't help as a human to be Your adrenaline is going Your heart is pumping And then something happens And it's like, bam, you react You're like, whoa Dark skinned God, whoa My bad, he just had his cell phone My bad, whoa, I just triggered Yeah But going back to Brandon's question And I kind of We shouldn't have to feel that way But I'm like, we are Black men in America Sure Like, Tyree Kill And I'm saying this is a Black man To another Black man You gotta know your place, you know what I mean? Meaning, you are in Miami Like, some Cuban officers Like, look into the Overtown riots, you know what I mean? It's like, there is a history there Yeah, yes And I'm not trying to broaden But he may not, he's not thinking that at the time No, because he doesn't even, he probably That's the last on his mind He's trying to get like another baby mom Like another baby mom That's the hardest thing from his mind But we live What did Kamala say? It's not like you just dropped out of a coconut tree one day Right, right, yeah You come, we come from somewhere We come from Sure Experiences and histories and everything else No matter what Tyree, how hot he thinks he is Right He is a Black man from Miami Gardens And we're 100% So So you gotta know Even that, listen, I'll be honest If I was a white man In his situation that happened I would still be like Hey officer, what's up? How you doing? Because I do that Just in general I do that just in general As as a human being Even today, I was at the doctors today Right, I had to go to Going back to health But see, we're bringing it back around Call back I was going back I was orthopedic doctor Because I've been wanting to help my health issues Is this back The situation I've been dealing with That's a whole other thing But the first thing I do In fact, I've been going to a lot of doctors, man First thing I do is say Hey, how you doing? How's your day? Yeah Wow Um, where are you from? Yeah Because I'm trying to humanize it Oh yeah Oh, they'll be like Oh, wow, thanks for asking Where are you from? Oh, I'm from this area What school do you go? So now we get into a general conversation Like I said last week Last episode Then they begin to look at me As someone who they can identify with And want to care about me Like, oh wow, that's the guy who came in With the purple shirt And asked me how my day was Hey, what's up? What's up? Hey, Chris, what's up? Oh, hey, Dr. Dot, what's up Dot? I like those sneakers you got People have to learn how to be more Sometimes, I'm gonna say this And I know that we have on the flip side of that Because we can say, you know Officers of, you know, mean and blah blah blah On the flip side, I say To also young men Who walk around with this attitude And I feel like that didn't start happening Which always is probably as long as like Well, maybe it started happening Or it happened Long time Long time, right And it has this, we walk around with this attitude And I understand on some level Because, you know, people have been persecuted And all concentrated real bad here But hey, my man, on a one-to-one day-to-day basis That ain't gonna work for you Yeah, it's gonna work for you That's not gonna get you to where you need to go If you're thinking about doing something big in the world That's either gonna get you in jail Or dead Or, you know what I mean? It's not gonna be an outcome You're walking around like a time bomb So guess what? At some point, if you don't explode Somebody's gonna explode on you So you better chill that out And that's not sellout That's really been a good human being Right, and to add to that point Is that, I think something to re-kill had to understand Is that it don't matter how much money you make Or if you cool with the mayor Or if you cool with this person And that person, if a police officer Wanna drag you out your motherfucking car 'Cause you're a black man in a $500,000 car They will drag your ass out of it In that moment, they can do that Now you can argue later whether you can call up Benjamin Kromp And I'll shock them later But in the meantime, for a couple days You're not gonna be good You're not gonna have a good outcome So you gotta... Don't matter how much And it could ruin your life So think for a second Make an executive decision and be like Hey, officer, I'm just trying to get to my game You know, are you an NFL fan? You are? Check inside Oh right, I got... That wasn't gonna get there yet But I'm in an NFL football player I'm simply trying to get to my game And get to my game And if I've done anything wrong, man, I apologize What is it that I did wrong, by the way? Yeah, yeah, you wanna wrap up We're gonna keep going, you get out of here, man We got... No, no, no, no, I should... I'll catch you guys I mean, this has been a great conversation, man You've had great input And I hate to see, we hate to see you go, brother Catch you, don't worry about it Um... Enjoy Yeah, enjoy, man You're gonna get that pizza You gotta get some good food You're gonna get that pizza You don't wanna say it on the body It's like, "I gotta get that good pizza, brother!" Yeah, no, no, no, no, no Enjoy, man, tell us about the experience Yeah, I'm making miles of water Oh, no, yeah Alright, man Peace So, yeah, man, I mean... Because it don't matter how much... How many people that you hang out with Like, that's what I'd be saying It's like, no amount of money is gonna make you white Like, so it was like... Truth, man! Now, wait a minute, I'm gonna say this too, man Because we... It's very easy to beat up on our white brothers and sisters And I was saying this, I was telling somebody Because in a perfect world, we really... It's not about picking sides, really It's about humanity And I really, really do mean that White people, and especially white men Have had a history of treating us bad And not just the whole world But part of it is... I know this is crazy to say Part of it is human nature Yeah Which... Humans have a history of treating humans bad on the planet I mean, they say... Savages, you can go back Didn't matter where you were I mean, it wasn't like Africans were living perfect worlds back in the day We've been savages to each other There's been dictators You know, EDI men who's been horrible To other black people So, we have to be careful I say this Because, you know, racism is the cancer And anybody who's on that level Is... I could, you know, I drop some F-thombs on you And stuff like that But that's not going to do anything But ultimately, we have to heal each other We have to... This is what evolving is about Like my girl said the other day "Let's turn the page" "Let's move forward" "We're not going back" So that's funny... Sorry, Brandon, he just... Hey, he mentioned this But I'm like... I really am sincere about this Because I totally believe you Chris, like we need to get over this race thing And look, maybe we never will But not to the point where it's so destructive Right, exactly So... Because that does nothing Right, so do you think... Mr. Trump is the type of person Who you put in charge Who can start to help to heal those differences Right, put a pen one second Yes, wow Because I want to clear up what I'm saying When I mean... You ain't going to be white I just basically say that like a lot of times We really don't When you get to those levels Where you got all that influence That money, that power But have you We decide to like take that And more so Make our whole world kind of like Emulate kind of how a European Would be out here Instead of like kind of taking all that money And kind of trying to put it in your neighborhood In a certain kind of way And bring people together In a more unified front Far as we're concerned And I just be basically saying It don't matter how many parties y'all go to How many times y'all hang out with This, that and the third When it's time for that separation We're gonna go with who we look like And who we identify with more So if you wanted to strengthen a community I feel like you should strengthen More of a community That's kind of like you in a sense Cause... Oh, so you're saying Uh, this should be some um Opal Winfrey Hospital Since I'm Jay-Z University And it has so many words Yeah, yeah, it has so many words It has so many words It has so many words It has so many words It has so many words Yeah, that sounds crazy No, no, no, them cats is like Look how... I just bought a jet Yeah, yeah I just bought... Look how these cars I got Yeah, yeah Cause when it comes down to Everybody going to their respective corners Which will do human nature to your point Yeah Is that like, what do... Our corners is... It doesn't look as strong As everybody else's corners That's why when He gets pulled over the first thing He's doing his screaming Call this whoever guy Call drew, call drew, call drew, call drew Who's like... Call somebody that Has nothing to do with me or my culture To come bail me out of this situation Well, that's cause they know if they call somebody This black They're gonna get... They may get slammed too Yeah, that's why Well, you know, Lance Campbell His teammate apparently That has him, right? Oh really? He showed up To try to, you know, add some Reason context Whatever you got And they, they, they cut them At the scene Wow And, you know... Yeah, so that doesn't work There's a reason No one can tee a point And the reason is To what you said Is that like, it's because for so many years We've just been going with How everyone's telling us to treat us And act around us Yeah, because we've been taught that That's been drilled in our head We treat each other bad It's been drilled in our head We see... The worst Yeah, you, you, you tend to go With the winning team We've been the losing team Literally the bottom I mean, it don't matter who It could be a new team that come in We still... Damn, who's that remind me of? The Washington? Okay, I'm not bad I'm sorry I just had this Yeah But, you know, it's like Come on I mean, I don't know, man That's the page I want to turn I want to figure out a way to like When I figure out, but I think that We're heading towards A more of a unified front I feel like, you know I agree, but you mean just in the Black community or even the community See, I'm not, so here's the Difference for me, I know we keep Saying a Black community Like, I don't, I don't I know, I'm gonna catch some flak for this But, I don't believe It's about creating a, um What was the movie, um Black Panther? A Black Wall Street or something No, no, no, no What kind of? Or Wakanda Because, I just feel like that separation Like, all you do, all we're doing Is mimicking really What the oppressor did How about, how, well, how do we Create, ultimately, an all-inclusive World? Because we all, nobody's Leaving, ain't nobody And we have to love and respect I know that sounds corny and make Believe, but I'm like, listen, I came Up through, uh, my early years Were in Mount Pleasant Which, um, not that there wasn't Racism, but it was very Multicultural, you know We had white folks, we were Jamaican, we had, um, um, Latino Of all kinds, all kinds And it was, I just remember it I'm sure there was different tensions I can remember the riots I was very, very, very, very young We had to put a peace sign on the door So they wouldn't throw a brick But ultimately Why do we have to pick sides When we all bleed red? Like, why are we picking sides Based on what? Based on complexion Based on the texture Based on what? Like, like, um Uh, my girl said, um, President Harris I'm sorry, Vice President Harris Yeah, right, um, um, uh, I want To say her name right, um, Kamala Kamala Harris I want to say Kamala Kamabla Kamabla I mean, like she said, we have more In common Than what separates us And we truly do, all you have to do Is get on a plane and travel around The world, you will see You will see That people That That either look like you Or don't look like you Have something in common And so, I just think that is Is, um, naive to think that So we're just what? All the black people going to live over here And all the white people going to live over there And everything is just going to be harmony I mean, I think that's not My point is more micro My point is more like Just making sure that As a community We just have more resources To come to the table with No doubt, no doubt No doubt, none of that We're just at the beck and call Of whoever has resources And I feel like that's the point That irritates the situation going on Well, what that first one is That's going to take money Exactly And we have money That's the thing We make a lot of money We just spend a lot of it On frivolous things At the end of the year That we don't make Yeah, yeah We spend money on stupid shit So we're we are putting Billions and billions of dollars And the deficit that we're just Spending cash Like we're not saving it Or making it We're more consumers than producers And I just No doubt, no doubt But Brandon, I mean I think we're spoiled Being from this area That's true Because we already have The germ of this And PG, right? PG, most lucrative Black county in the country Sure, Silver Spring is the top Top of it No hope for it Yeah, yeah, yeah For sure So we know And I kind of look at Silver Spring As maybe Something along the line That you're talking about, Chris We might not own this county The way we, quote unquote, own PG Right But from what I've seen People seem to live together Well in Montgomery County Well, it's one of Montgomery County One of the, if not these Definitely on the top Is diversified Every year It's usually Germantown, Silver Spring Gay, Desperne, DC You know As far as the most Quote unquote, diverse Absolutely I think it's a mentality Listen, I went to high school In PG County And Which school? I went to Potomac Potomac in Oxen Hill And Black folks Was crazy We had Southeast Southeast was literally Southeast In our backyard Literally When we used to get in trouble Smoke weed We would, we would disappear In Southeast Into the, into the DC police caught on I was like, hey The y'all, I'm a screw child Back over there And we'd be caught in the middle Right But, but I mean, I saw a lot of There's a, and I know My, my PG brothers and sisters Who I went to school with Who I, I know and love Are going to get mad But there's a lot of ignorant A lot of ignorant stuff You know, going on Where, where It's almost like the Crabs in a barrel And I don't want to see And listen Those cats don't even dare It's, it's like, I must be I might be, I'm, I'm as well Be in New York Because they don't dare Come to Montgomery County A lot of them, they stay Right over there Yeah, they don't venture And that was really My, my problem with it Growing up coming from Areas like Mount Pleasant Even at a younger age Was like, man I'm cool with everybody We used to have grits back then Real quick, we used to have grits And they used to dress up Like the fawns I don't know if y'all remember If I used to wear a stripe Yeah, grits Anybody know Who grew up in the 70s and 80s In PG County They were the Proctors and the grits The Proctors were light skin Yeah, the swans, the Proctors Yeah, they were, they were the ones That, you know, they Might have been some incest They might have been Awesome, was up in the camp And they, but they But here's the deal with the Proctors Mad Props to the Proctors They had land Yeah, they had, they owned land There are a lot of black folks Didn't own But then you had the grits And the grits Used to have a problem with the Proctor I guess the grits were the white White boys or white girls Who were probably their Their fathers and grandfathers Owned that land That the Proctors were on So they had a problem And they used to dress up Words by, they used to dress up With straight leg pants Cuff With chuck tailors With a chain Leather jackets Wife beater Slickback hair And they would, but here The greasers are something The greasers, they were like greasers Now check it out Your boy was cool with everybody Because your boy smoke weed Listen to, you know Aero Smith And Pink Floyd And Led Zeppelin And also listen to P-Funk And Lakeside And Mass Production So I was cool on both sides I would go over there and smoke a bomb With the white boys And then I'd be over here With the brothers smoking a joint Right You wouldn't have, it wouldn't blunts back then Because I was cool with everybody Because I was like, yo, I can find a commonality I don't, I don't, I don't Come from that mindset Of It's just me over here It's just you over here I'm cool with everybody Because unless you said something dumb And I was like, yo, it could be Black or White And so I think that if we could, and that's Again, this is not to disown the culture The rich, amazing culture of Black people Because Black people truly have Listen, I know I'm gonna come off of this But when I went to the museum African American Museum Museum, if anybody has been there You start from the bottom And you see the enslavement of Black people And then you get to the top And you see the mothership connection I go, I mean, along with everything else I mean, you had Prince And you had everything, you know You've got Marley the King You've got Malcolm X You've got all these different things in between Why would you enslave a people Who've given so much To this country, to this land Why, why, why the need I mean, this is, again, this is that Conquering energy This, this takeover energy This, I call it the the God complex This ego where you think you have To conquer things And take over it Yes, I understand us being savages And, but I like to think In 2024, where we have AI We have computers in our pockets We have self-driving cars That why can't technology seems to be evolving Why can't we as humans evolve? That's a great question I'm like, I don't need another piece of technology I feel like it's getting better But around the edges You know, big young folks Yes And one beef that I have with My own folks is when they say things Like when we say things like Man, things ain't really changed You know, nothing's really changed Like that's so untrue It's so untrue It might not have changed As fast as we all want to see it Yeah, change doesn't happen fast 50 years ago Yeah You know what I mean? It's way different Yeah, I mean, it wasn't that long ago When we couldn't defecate in the same place Yeah Couldn't dream water Couldn't dream water Yeah, so it had to be in a different Part of the theater to watch a movie Yeah You know, so You know, we have to acknowledge That change has happened Yeah But we're working progress And we got to keep at it And circling back to what Kind of a question I posed to you, Brandon You want to be put a pin in it? I just feel like If we want to do this One thing about Trump is I just don't like the nastiness You know what I mean? The vices I don't like the nastiness Nasty And all of like It's always somebody else It's a problem Sort of scapegoating People And it's all about him Look, there might be some Genuine concerns, right? I mean, but this is genuine concerns As far as We've been here for a while No one really likes change When you start seeing New people show up And who are those people in the neighborhood Or whatever I think that's natural But because everything changes We got to learn How to deal with change And how to see it as A benefit, perhaps You know what I mean? Rather than Oh, that's an enemy right there That's somebody that I need to Castigate And talk shit about And challenge Look at what's going on in Springfield, Ohio Apparently, where they eating Dogs and cats, right? But these are Haitian people And that's close to me Because one of my best friends From high school is Haitian Right And I see, man, you know From the early 80s Haitians have had it First was eight Then it's just like whatever Maybe you were in New York And you had Jamaican people Who were odd to it Even though, you know Where's some Patico, right? Dominicans Dominicans Jamaicans, black Americans At some point, they've been at Their necks They can't catch a break And so what I didn't really Understand about this Springfield, Ohio story Is that it's a town That at one point, maybe at its height Was 80,000 strong Because Ohio, like one of those Rust Belt Midwestern Rust Belt states Bible Belt They've lost the Yup They've lost all of their Industry Because it's probably tied up in cars Or like some asbestos You know what I mean? They don't have jobs So that town was dying The leadership of the town was like The same thing they did to the Jamaicans That the British did to the Jamaicans In the 50s We need work Come We will host you We will take you More than Bar Harbor, Maine Bar Harbor, yeah Exactly It's going down Yeah, yeah, yeah So Springfield They're eating the dogs The people that came in They're eating the cats They're eating They're eating Somebody sent me a photo of a dog And this is what's happening Dogs in a car driving off Like we out of here We get it I love it Are they really eating the dogs? So, look Apparently, again This is, again, quote unquote Doing my research So come to find out They asked for the Haitians to come Just like they're doing bar harbor Right, right So 20,000 Haitians Have lived in Springfield, Ohio They're a quarter of the population And to hear the local people tell it I'm talking about local government And business They love them Because of their labor Have allowed their businesses To grow in the town To thrive But This guy over there I mean, I've seen some nasty videos You know what I mean? Just, I don't even repeat some of the language Some of the locals The people who were there And they said to the Jamaicans About the Haitians Oh, the Haitians, I'm sorry The Haitians And they're like, yeah, you know I hate them, I don't want to say them Whatever But I'm like, your town was dying Like they shot Damn, they're saved your town And you got to ask What are you basing your hate Or your dislike for them? Right, what is that about? But it's the same stuff you're talking about Because if, let's say somebody Of European descent came in And started helping Right, you would probably make friends with them Yeah, right But these people, because They're dark And complexion Physically look different Maybe, features You Have a, you make a cause for them To hate them And all actuality They're human like you They, they, they do do They eat They want respect They bleed They want love They want caring They want the exact If you strip it down They want what you want But because you visually see them as different You, you Ignorant Ignify yourself Opposite of dignified You dignified yourself You bring yourself to To be, to reduce yourself To an elementary savage Beast You aren't even human If you were involved, evolve Like technology You would see that Hey, these people came in Gave us health Help They want something We want something And we can, we can We have a mutual partnership There's a partnership Where we have something in common I mean, I don't, I don't get It's so, it's so elementary Racism is so elementary But it's, it probably stems from The same thing that got us Lynched centuries ago Or, you know, 70 years ago Is that these guys I guess they see their white women Is the grand prize And you know, some smoothation Is going to come speak Of some Creole And then they're going to be having These half Creole babies Okay, so what? Then up your game You know, get your, get your Then let that inspire you To get your rap on I don't think it's anything they can say Exactly Brandon read my mind They can't do anything Who do my white folks? Yes That's bullshit They need to elevate They need to elevate But are they going to do it? Yeah, there's some slick white boys And some beautiful white women Absolutely But are they going to put in the work? No Because they feel that their whiteness Should make them more poppin' than this Right, so they're lazy Yes Another former lazy They're going, they're right Instead of like doing the work And saying, hey, you know what? It's not I'm not going to make excuses I'm going to look Because if I see somebody doing the do And they, and they, I'm like Oh, let me check that shit out Let me, I'm a, I'm a They just inspired me To, maybe I need to put some new kicks on Or I need to get some smooth talk Or whatever it is Figure out my way to do that Or, you know, and do it my way On another woman Black, white, whoever it comes along Yeah And so (coughing) Racism, to me, prejudice, whatever It gets in the way Of opportunities That we could really Either side Could, it could be a learning, inspiring Opportunity that we're missing out on We're just taking It's like You, you, you, you Turn into a sucker And start complaining That's what I hear when Trump talks He's always complaining Stop crying He's always whining He's always whining Oh, that, he calls It's like he's the bully who calls names Hits people and then runs on the other side Oh, they hit me, they hit me to shut up He hides the rocks Yeah, he hides the rock You know That's, that's a sign of a narcissist privilege You know, um, person Who happens to be white And what I hate Is when he says And I'm so not rah, rah Going whole about America Right But when he Constantly says like How this is a nation in decline How It's just getting from bad to worse And There's no place On this planet like America There's no place And this is If people really Drop this BS If we really just started Working together like Seriously Yup America would be so much greater So much greater So much greater You know what I mean? So much greater It's a great country Like At your, uh, your folks Or Yeah immigrants Yeah, I'm first generation You know what I mean? Yeah And we were in England And my dad in seven Well, we came over 78 But my dad is 76 He must have seen That things weren't going To really pop in England And he said, you know what? Wow, my uncle did the same But he came, moved here in 76 Right Because he was like Yo, I'm, he left England He felt, well, he felt like England was, was super racist Yeah, it's super racist But in a way that's so much Super racist than America is So I got this I got another clip for y'all It's more covert It's something that's different Yeah So I got another clip from y'all This is basically Everybody said this is the point In debate where Trump became unhinged Just because of what, uh Kamala said right here We'll start leaving his rallies early Out of exhaustion Oh yeah, that pissed him off And I will tell you The one thing you will not hear him talk about Is you You will not hear him talk about Your needs, your dreams And your, and your desires And I'll tell you, I believe You deserve a president Who actually puts you first And I pledge to you that I will Yeah, he can't do that He's incapable Because he's a narcissist Narcissists Narcissists don't think about Anything else but themselves They think about The only closest thing they think about Other than themselves Is maybe their kids or their wife They can't get off Any subject other than them It's all about them Them and everything She said people started leaving People don't go to her rallies There's no reason to go And the people that do go She's busing them in And paying them to be there And then showing them In a different light Look at this small He's so small It's like tit for tat He's so small The biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies In the history of politics He's made of them He's made of them He thinks he's made of them He thinks he's made of them And he's made of them He's made of them Our country is being lost We're a failing nation There it is No, no, no I'm gonna tell you one Go ahead We are not a failing nation No, we're not a failing I'm gonna tell you one That hit him She said that Putin would Eat you for lunch Wow damn Eat you for lunch, dude It's on him popping I'll tell you that Oh my god Yeah, I think that kind of It's on him popping Isn't that that skinned him, man? No, she's got to take it She lowered him in from the time She walked over and shook his hand And he doesn't know See, he's lived in a bubble Yes He's been a rich white man All his entire life The doors Everything has been wide open in his world So he really doesn't have instinctual survival It's all like a learned behavior But he doesn't have instinctual survival That Well, maybe he does in a different way In the sense of Like a cockroach Buildings and doing deals And being conniving And all that kind of stuff But I mean survival Where you didn't have something And you had to do it to survive Literally to survive Not to survive on You know, the 20th floor Of the tower or something But really Survive because You had no choice It was somebody The oppressor put you in this situation So he just doesn't He sees himself And then I think he sees like All these little people And he's like, oh yeah Yeah, come with me little people He's like, this is what I'll do for you I just the guy is to me One of the worst I can't believe that He even got this far And was the president And is running again It really shows As great as we are It shows The bet He's the worst of what we are I agree And we have to move past him We've got like my girl said Turn the page And let's not beat around a bush He does represent that racist streak Of the United States So we were just talking about it Absolutely, that old I mean where the forefathers, you know Create this country and said Oh, I'm gonna go over there And capture his people And still land And do the worst things ever Criminal that any criminal could do Yeah, he represents that He knows his He speaks to that audience It's sad that it's this close It is a close race Again, and you know I'm one of those people who will say it It's racism It's racism It's why it's so close I tell people, even when I'm talking about it I'll be like, it's like this 'Cause it's racism We have a racist This country And why shouldn't it be It was founded on racism We haven't gotten that You know, far You know, one of the reasons Why I love Chris Rock is 'Cause he can really sum up a thought Yeah, he did So, I remember when George W. Bush, right? He said A black guy With a C A black guy With a C What is it? C plus average or whatever? Yeah, yeah Can't be the manager of McDonald's A white guy with a C plus average or whatever Can be the President of the United States It's true And I think that's it in a nutshell Yeah And so how do we Close that gap That expectation gap Where that has to be racism, right? We don't want the black doctor to treat us 'Cause he might make a mistake You know, that's what Right, right, right, right Which is what one of these right-wing people had said Openly Just, you know, in terms of 'Cause the whole conversation about DEI hires This is probably like a month ago And that was like the huge thing And so, of course, Kamala is like this sort of DEI hire Right, right You know, accepting the effects She used an AG of California We can't possibly be as good as them Right, Senator Before years or whatever It's so Vice President It's horrible No, I had a friend tell me Chris I don't know about Her being President I mean, can she really go up against somebody like Putin? In my conversation We'll say that to a black woman's face Right And see if she don't handle you And obviously, we saw that With Trump We saw that he handled him He was jealous of him Don't, that was just And it was a woman It happened to be a white woman I was like, why would you say something like that? That's because you're so used To seeing white men Be in charge That you don't dare Vera You can't imagine someone else doing something else 'Cause you think that it's got to look like A white man doing something Because they bombarded us They got into our heads And cheated And it's like, you know, it's equivalent to somebody I don't know if I can say Somebody being in line And then the white man comes and bombards And takes over the line And so, you don't ever want them to get in You're doing that So, they won't Have the same opportunity to show you up You're afraid of being shown up Yes, black people are going to do things differently Any culture If somebody from Pakistan Or Salvador came here And was the president They're going to do something different It's not going to look like The white world And get over it It's okay Right Maybe you can find something I got something to learn from white people And white people got something to learn from me It's a beautiful thing So, y'all think on election day That people are really 'Cause you know, a lot of people Talk that shit And then they get to the election And then they go like Trump They be like, "I'm sorry, my man!" Yeah, so I'm so used to a press I can't think outside of it Hey, Fred And I think, I don't know if you remember this press, I think it's called The Bradley Effect When I think Tom Bradley Mayor Tom Bradley in Los Angeles He was running to be the Governor of California Talked about this Yeah No, Tom Bradley Yeah, I never heard of it So, Tom Bradley was the Mayor of Los Angeles I want to say like the late 70s I believe he was running for Governor And I think On election day or something Up to election day I mean, he was He had probably like a 10-point lead in the polls Keep in mind this is 19 late 70s And he sure enough lost But the night maybe by like a couple of points So, what's your talking about Brandon? I could have People say because you want to You want your bigger self To be projected to somebody who's asking you Who are you going to vote for? Yeah But then you're smaller, you know Yeah Yeah, I mean, that's happened a lot I mean, I mean, because I'll tell you one thing Uh, this might not be politically correct But saying in a public Especially in a DC Mayor in Virginia area Saying that you're going to do anything other than vote for Kamala It's going to scare the hoes Like, you're going to be out at a bar Oh, yes, no, no, no You can't say no, no, no, no Be sitting in the corner of the bar Where you got yourself Yeah, they'd be like, none, especially a black woman You're going to get no ass Yeah, you can't talk bad about a black woman in general Because black women don't, that's a whole nothing They don't take, you ain't even got to say nothing You can say I love They don't bring the Kamala You can say I love Kamala But I just want to vote for this guy You can say whatever you want You don't even have to talk bad about it Just saying that you're going to do Anything other than vote for the Democratic candidate In this particular instance, it's scarin on In this area, absolutely Yeah, we don't, this is a blue, we are blue We are blue up in this zone We love this region Because of that blueness, right? It's going to be a little more progressive thinking Yes, exactly Let's go over it And say, hey, are you a liberal, are you a Democrat? Yeah, we don't do that Okay, now we can talk No, it's the tone that, come on man I mean, I'm looking north of Virginia North of Virginia has changed Like the last three or four cycles It sure has It used to be my joke about Virginia Yeah You get busted over 85 You're going to need to get that lawyer No, I happen to me Because It's a criminal offense Right, because Our neighbor is back then Especially was a law and order state Yeah, that's right You know, back then That's right Texas and Virginia led the nation In Capital punishment You know what I mean And that penalty I spent a weekend in jail Right, so my boy did For going a little bit over the 80s So they put my, I was like, are you serious? I thought that I could just pay the ticket They were like, no Right Go get a lawyer Because you could end up in jail That's right I was like, oh, I gotta go to work I was going to pay the ticket and go to work It was like, no It was crazy But then look at the, look at the irony of it, right Virginia is a place where Interracial marriage was codified It was made leave That's right That's right You know what I mean? Damn, I ain't even know that We have the lovings, yeah Lovings, it was at 57 or something like that When the, when the couple Yes, that's the name of the couple It's the name Were they in Virginia? They were in Virginia, lovings Yeah Uh, like I didn't, wouldn't imagine It made a story about it It was, yeah, it was like Sort of going down Before you reach 64 So you're going to, you know Okay, um, but yeah So, as you're saying Man there's, people, we have people Who want to rise above in this country, man Oh, definitely, definitely Thank God we do But we also have people That just want to be ignorant And keep things the way they were When we couldn't defecate And couldn't, they loved that They're like, oh, they feel special Especially if you, a white person Who's not doing well You're in, somewhere in Some rural area in, in, uh, Mississippi Or, uh, uh, Georgia somewhere You're looking to blame You don't want to look at yourself People don't want to look at themselves In the mirror and say, yo, you know what? I mean, maybe if you didn't drink or do, you know Fitting all the crystal metal much You'd be, you could get your life together You wouldn't have to blame the, the, the Black person that's coming down the street That's, that's doing all right You wouldn't, you could look at yourself I mean, you know what I mean? There's nobody's fault I certainly don't blame white people For any problems that I got Other than, you know, them treating my ancestors Like shit I'll talk about one more question Yes, sir We wrap it up This is gonna be a tough one I'm gonna start doing tough questions on here All right, so this is the question to both of y'all Why should we be concerned About the welfare of future generations Oh, wow Well, that's, that's a good clue Well, you, you have children Yeah, isn't that a, I think that's Kind of a philosophical one, right? Like, meaning We ain't gonna be here, so Exactly We're not gonna be here forever It's very easy If you have kids, progeny, or whatever Like, I want a better world for my kids You don't have to have kids to feel that way I, I don't have kids And I feel that way You don't have to have kids to feel that way I want to leave the world better than I, than I, you know Got here Like a campsite, right? Yeah, I don't, better than when you got there Yeah, I don't want, I don't want, I want, I want, I want Humanity to live on Yeah, I, yeah You know, here's a deal I would feel empty if, you know This burning that we have inside of us To see things improve Right Like, I, I don't know I'm not gonna say I will kill myself tomorrow If I didn't have this reason to believe in something But yeah, I, I, I, I Trudging along each day In some cases, cut with that hope of It's gonna be better Think about a hundred years ago What hour people had to go through Yeah And so like a hundred years later, it's a little easier Yeah 'Cause we make it better Better than like 50 years later A little easier So, so let me expound a question This is for me now Yep So, if today, you knew that Everyone in this room, if we sacrificed ourselves Right now, that the world would be a better place And we could guarantee it, would you do it? What I sacrificed myself for the, for the For the greater good For the greater good You knew that In the next, however, 10, 20 years, whatever You know for a fact that the world will be a better place If you sacrifice yourself At this moment, that means you can't live the rest of your life You have to do it right now Since you want the world to be a better place I mean, I have to say yes, right? Right, yeah I have to say yes No, I mean, what I want to know No, hell no But yeah I'm thinking right now, I got my boys Oh, I'm like, yeah Yeah, you're gonna sacrifice Let's just say literally, it was like You're not going to be able to say The last person I could say anything to was YouTube Right, yeah And be like, whoa I'm on the cross We did it, man We did it, we did it, yeah Nah, I respect that I mean, I had a great life It's because I got to see some cool stuff Do I have a few regrets, a few But I had more positives Way more out, way more than negatives Yeah, I mean, nah, I was just trying to make sure Y'all really care about the future Yeah, nah, nah, for sure I was thinking about it, I was thinking about it But I was like, I was like, damn, damn I mean, I like, I like, um, Leto's pizza [laughter] We eat as cool as we eat But it's like, damn, all, like, all nothing Forever, ever, forever But you know what, me, that's a great question I would absolutely would Brandon, that's a great question Because think about those stories of sacrifice That you hear from other people Yeah, they did it Did they even really think about this? Yeah, yeah That's what your ancestors did All of our ancestors went through it, man They used to, it used to get dark outside When the sun went down, they used to know what the hell was going on Yeah, but the only difference is they got their ass kicked on a regular For no reason We, you know, we get to go and watch Thursday night football That's right Yeah, we get to set our fantasy line up, Brandon To your point, Dom, we really have come a long way Yeah I mean, come on now Yeah We got And still going We got Netflix We got Hulu Yeah We got Peacock We got Amazon electric cars Good food But that's why it's important Technology Push yourself as a man Because the world is almost too comfortable That you'll just turn and go fuck that You do, you do, you do You turn into a daddy thing Now that's a good point Or, you know what I mean, we talk about this sometimes When you see these Hollywood stars And they drug add-old and everything We always say like How could you be so depressed? Do you know what I mean? Right, how could you And I think some of that is because Those folks, you get to a certain level What more do I have to do? Right So then you don't have anything else to do And then negative forces Enter your world And you locate former drugs a lot of times Yeah Internet, you get social media You start looking So I agree about keeping pushing, man Otherwise you find yourself in that Like status quo where everything is perfect Yeah Quote-unquote Yeah, I mean, that's the thing It's like Chris being at gym every day I try, man You know, it's shitty as I look right now I try, man I try to even, even, you know I was telling my orthopedic doctor today It was second opinion Also did some some ruffing today I don't know if anybody Shout-out to the rothers out there You got to keep trying To your point You have to keep trying Life to me is full of learning And so when you do Here's the birth Here's the thing When you get all that money And all that fame To much is given, much is required You, you, you There's a price You can't just get that And just respect that Oh, I'm gonna just You know, I've got this and nothing No, you got that And so now There, the burden Is kind of on you And you don't have to look at it as a burden You can look at it as a challenge Our opportunities To create and give back Constantly give back Creating to give back To, I mean, of course, your family But also people The world abroad Because you've been afforded that opportunity Right And so You can't just sit there And sit on your laurels And just be like, yeah, I got all that Yep Because now you, you just, you know You know, there's all kinds of words for it But yeah, I just think, I think that That we are put on this earth Regardless of where you are in your life To learn lessons To, to, to spread love To be inspired To give All those things that we see In, you know, sacred books You know, whether it's the The Bhagavad Gita Or the Bible Or the Torah Or the Quran These are, these are, you know And here's the other thing too And there's another thing that people aren't I think, you know, all these sacred writings I call them sacred writings Or these writings, biblical writings That were thousands and thousands And years ago I mean, things have evolved So everything doesn't And I'm not trying to say you revamp Every, you completely revamp it But you, you gotta know What applied Thousands of years ago May not apply in the exact same way Or you have to have, you have to Really put it on to apply it To the world as it is a day It's not going to work exactly You know, if they said, hey Thou should not treat horses bad You know, when you ride them Well, we're not riding horses now We, the technology has changed And so, yeah, I think People get caught up in tradition And things like that And semantics and all that kind of stuff And it doesn't necessarily work What God has given us Intellect, will And so, we have to use it In, in, given the circumstances that we have You know, we're, I mean Things don't necessarily apply the same way That our ancestors had to deal with 100 years ago Or 200 years ago We, we are privileged Really offsprings of something of their works So we can do, we can, we can do I probably waste too much time Squaring too much time But, but also try to help and do things And advance myself in where I can And, yeah, yeah We live longer now We're, we're living longer Even though the food is processed And got all kinds of chemicals and stuff like that We, you can't, you can't ignore the fact that And a lot of people say, oh wow, you know, man, it's all natural And all natural back then Yeah, yeah, that's great But, you know, there are other factors in, you know People getting, having stress You know, because they know that You know, they were going to get punished Because they didn't do something Or, you know, what have you So, anyway guys We have really had a great discussion today I think it's a good time to wrap it up Any burning desires, anything Anybody want to, you know, get off their chest before we Now it was a great conversation Great conversation, man Got a lot more philosophical than I expected And I like it Yeah, well that's really what Omar and I, as we come up Come up on this, um, year Brandon's been there from the very beginning We come up on this year That's what Omar and I intended When we called it Not Your Common Conversation We just didn't want to talk about things Not that we wouldn't be talking about the same subject matters But it's how we're going about it How we're choosing to, you know, add some, you know, enlightening Or enlightenment or philosophical, as you just said We wanted to really have a, approach the same topic In a different way, possibly So, yeah, it's right on point So, I'm just glad Dom, you could join us, man We've known each other a long time Probably any, yeah, not probably Any more than anybody on the show And, um, and I've always admired you, man You're, you're, you're, you're We always say that, um, uh, man, Reggie How funny, he's like, Dom, it's so funny And a good way, like, you're smart humor It's just funny Um, but, um, anyway, man, thank you, lucky listeners For, uh, once again, um, you know, uh, joining us Oh, congrats again, man, congrats Yeah, I mean, on the show Up for a year, yeah Oh, thank you, man, we got to, we, you know, we were like How are we going to do this? You know, I always want to do a podcast, man And so, we've been keeping it going Thanks to Brandon and Omar, um, Omar's probably enjoying A place of pizza right now Is there, is there? Yeah, yeah, man, so Just getting started Just getting started, man, so folks, stay tuned We're going to give you some more of this Hopefully, hopefully, you get something from it And, um, thank you for, uh, joining us Once again, uh, uh, for a natural, common conversation And we out [Music] [Music] [Music]