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Your portal into UFOs, paranormal, cryptids, the supernatural, the mysterious, the unknown. [SCREAMING] This is "Beyond the Radar" and this is your host, humanoid, Tom Conway. All right, welcome everyone back to another episode of "Beyond the Radar," your paranormal news program. We are broadcasting live on the United Public Radio Network and the UFO Paranormal Radio Network. 1053 FM on the Gulf Coast and 1077 FM in New Orleans. You can also catch a streaming on the UPRN Facebook page and YouTube page and, of course, might be on the radar Facebook and YouTube page. And recently, we are now live on Roku TV. So hello, everyone, watching from your television. We are on a channel. Look at us. Check out our archives there or subscribe to "Beyond the Radar's Podcast" on Spotify for past shows. Today, we have a wonderful program, first for me, in any sort of media, first for me, obviously on here. A real subject matter expert that will correct me when-- not if, but when-- I'm wrong about everything that I proficate here to you about science. So it is incredibly-- I'm incredibly honored to have someone. This is going to be so much fun. I would love to pick her brain. As you saw from the promo, we have, I believe, Dr. Tanya Rogers from NASA and an innovator all around good person and somebody who we want to pick their brain. So again, we'll get to her in just a second. But first, I want to tell everybody, thank you so much for the love that I received. Thank you so much for the people promoting my book, helping me shout out. Healer went on sale on Tuesday. And the support has been just amazing. I really do appreciate everybody. From the bottom of my heart, guys, thank you so much. You really shouting me out, leaving positive reviews, things like that. One of the most, I guess, intimate is the best word I can think of. One of the most intimate things you can do is share your personal work with somebody. For me, it's writing. As you guys know, the screenplays and the book and everything like that, producing shows and things. And obviously here, a lot of us don't get to do it. And a lot of us don't get to do it because of ourselves, not because somebody tells us no. We don't get to do it because we think someone's going to pop up on our comment thing right here and say, you suck or go home or things like that. And the outpouring is just something that makes me want to strive, do more, write another book. Maybe a prequel to this one. But as someone who's went through and had some mental health psychology and all kinds of things like that, writing a book, a fiction book, by the way. So I want to clarify that. A fiction book about that allows me to go in different directions and tap into other areas. When you're a writer on a show, you have other people to bounce things off of. 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Tonya Rogers began her education by completing her associate's degree at Houston Community College, earning a BS degree, or Bachelor of Science. Sorry. In chemical engineering, while attending Prairie View A&M University, recently Tonya received a PhD in chemical and biomolecular engineering from Rice University for her work on the development of nanocatalytic-enabled systems for treatment of anthropogenic water contaminants, currently Dr. Tonya Rogers is an energy systems director at NASA Johnson Space Center and is the proud CEO and co-founder of the People's CO2 Houston-based startup company focused on citizen powered carbon capture. So everyone, please welcome to the show, Tonya. Hello, Tonya. How are you? Hey, that was quite the introduction. Yes. Well, it's all true. And, you know, we got to get power to the people because, you know, you did something that not many people have done. So congrats to you on that. And, you know, with all of your advanced, you know, degrees and everything, and I won the geography being fifth grade. So I think we come here on even footing. You know, so. You also did just publish your first book, which is quite the accomplishment. So you are. I appreciate that. I definitely appreciate that. Thank you so much. And we have some good things to talk about because I'm fascinated in, I guess, both sides of you here. You know, what you, you know, your career. And then, you know, being a co-founder and inventor, you know, of this product. So I got questions for both things. But before we get into it, why don't you, you know, apart from the introduction, why don't you tell us a little bit about what you're doing now and what's going on in your life? It's a bit all over the place. I am a scientist by training. I think of the world in science. Everything comes down to molecule. The ones we can see. The ones we can't see. So I'm learning how to process the world outside of that. It's a bit scary when I have to dive into the entrepreneurial parts or admit to my skills. There are things that exist that aren't science. And so I'm kind of in this, not identity crisis, but thought I had my life figured out and trying to step back and re-figure all of that out right now. That makes sense. I mean, that can certainly happen when you come from such a, you know, focused degree. You know what I mean? It is a scientific. So you're so focused on this, that and the other thing that, I mean, there's a reason why we have left and right sides of the brains and things like that. You know what I mean? So you, instead of thinking like a crisis, just think you're becoming more well-rounded. You know what I mean? Your circle has a triangle all the way to science. You're just evening out the other sides down all the way. You know what I mean? And that's all that you're really doing. And then you become a star. That's what I heard. So. Very positive way of looking at it. Well, it's fine. And you know, if whatever happens, you have a, you know, NASA's not a bad idea to fall back on. So it's always good there. So one thing, let's get into and, you know, people might be asking or wondering why, you know, maybe you don't have the paranormal background or anything that typically would be on this show, but I beg to differ because we're, I'm going to do my soapbox here, where I come from in the paranormal isn't the core belief system. The paranormal is a study. You can study certain things about it. I have said on the show many times on all my other podcasts, I've been a guest on. We have to be more skeptical than the skeptics, because we need to flush out the members of our thing, that propagate on the street corner and claim everything is magic. It's, it's not. There are some things you can study. There are vibrations. There are frequencies. There's declassified documents of things. These are, you know, proof of things that have happened that people have studied. So that's my little spiel about paranormal and the science. And one of my questions to you is, have you ever studied anything that the outcome was a little scary? What you found wasn't what it should be. All the time. Actually, when you were, when you were giving your definition of the paranormal study, you couldn't replace that with science. Science is the unknown in trying to discover the unknown and figure out what the heck is going on. And rarely is it what you're expecting. There are things we can see in this world. There are things tools like microscopes can help us see. And then there's a huge part of science where we don't know what's going on and we make assumptions or we build these big machines to try to figure it out. And it's, it's weird and mysterious in their forces and matter and mass particles that we're still trying to figure out. And I was actually associated. I worked on a project. Do you know what the ghost particle is? Have you ever heard of the ghost particle? Very, not off the top of my head, but I have heard of it. So you should, you should go down this rabbit hole. But there, there are these subatomic particles called neutrinos. They're actually the most common matter particle in the universe. I should say are known universe. There are trillions of neutrinos that move through our body at any given second. They're kind of like electrons, but they don't have a charge. They have a little bit of mass. They come from everything, even bananas. And I'm not making any of this up. This is known, known proven science. And sometime around, I think the 1930s, there was this physicist looking poly that just sounds like a physicist name. I always have the best names. I have stuck with Rogers, but I digress. That's because I'm not a physicist. I'm an engineer. That's fine. So in the 30s, he was a physicist. And most physicists are brilliant mathematicians. And he was doing this equation and the balance wasn't adding up. There was something where the energy on one side of the equation was supposed to be increasing. He saw that it was decreasing. And he came to the theory that there must be these invisible particles that are being emitted. These neutrinos, and they end up calling it the goose particle because it's so elusive and you can't see it. And at the time, they couldn't detect it. So some really smart people started building all of these experiments back in the 30s using whatever rudimentary technology they had, and they weren't able to confirm that there is this ghost particle that exists. And scientists have been doing these experiments over the past 100 years now. And they're really hard to catch. They're tiny. They don't have a charge. They weigh next to nothing. So even though they're so small, you need these big thousands of feet long pieces of equipment to actually get a glimpse of them for a second of a second of a second, which is this wild ghost chase, but all that to say, I was working on a project. And I can't go into many details on that. And the numbers weren't adding up. And we ended up concluding that because of this ghost particle, these neutrinos interfering with our system, which was really cool to say I got spooked by a ghost particle in my science. Yeah. That's really cool to say and everything. You know, wow, ghost particle. So I've heard of it. You know, I've heard of that, but I never had. So thank you for the definition of everything there. Yeah, it doesn't have a charge. So it doesn't do what you want it to do, but it can mess things up. It's like a cat. So no, I'm kidding. But no, that's wonderful. That's wonderful. And you got stumped by that. And, you know, I guess not many, not many people have had the chance to even view one, correct? Yeah, I've never actually observed it. All of our stuff is theoretical. Very few people have detected this, but there's some great science literature on there about they're kind of like ghost hunters, right? They put on these special equipment. They go into certain places and they go to try to find these elusive particles. Fall into big savings. All in the King Supers app. Get 12 packs of delicious Coca-Cola, Pepsi or 7-Up for $4.99 each. Then get 9.8 ounce packs of juicy jumbo blueberries for $3.49 each, all with your card and a digital coupon. Shop these deals at your local King Supers less than five miles away or tap the screen now to download the King Supers app to save big today. King Supers. Fresh for everyone. Prices and product availability subject to change. Restrictions apply. See site for details. You probably think heat pump systems are boring. 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When you freeze it, the way the hydrogen bonds arrange, no other liquid does that. There's this phenomena. You can actually, anybody can do this at home. Take two cups of water. Get one of those cups of the boiling hot and put the same amount in each cup and make the other cup just cold water. Just turn on the cold part of your faucet and put them in the freezer in the hot water actually freezes solid to ice first before the cold water does. And scientists don't even fully understand why. No, no other liquid does that due to our knowledge. So it's just all these weird phenomena that happen with water and I get to play with water. We play with water in space where it gets even more fun. If you take away gravity, it shakes shifts and forms in weird ways. I love water. I need a bumper sticker that says I love water. That's been my favorite. Yeah, I mean, no water. I mean, for us, it's essential, you know, to life and life everywhere, at least that we know. So, you know, for us as humans and, you know, what we can't go three days without it, I think it's the three roll right with, you know, that in three weeks for food and whatever. But no, that's so cool. I had no idea that it forms in space differently. And real quick, have you been in zero gravity? I actually have. Have you heard of something called the vomit comet? The vomit comet. No, but I mean, readily intrigued. Oh, it was up to its name. So there's this airplane and they do science experiments on it. Why isn't these parabolic patterns? So you're going up really steeply, down really steeply, and you're experiencing, I think, 30 seconds of zero G. And so I flew on the vomit comet to do an experiment with water actually. I got really sick on the flight up there. They actually, I don't want to say drug you up, but they give you something to deal with the motion sickness. And I'm a person. If I take Tylenol, I just, it hits me hard. So once I recovered from getting over the vomit part of it, I got to be in zero G, which is a cool feeling. The weird part is when you're on different parts of this parabola, you're either in zero G or two G. So you're twice your body weight and you can't move. You're being held down to the ground just by those gravitational forces. And that's not a comfortable feeling, not being able to move your body. So the force is holding you down. You can't move your body. But then at other points, you have zero gravity and you can, you know, float and everything. What's, all right. So the vast 98% of people have not been in that. In me. What's something we wouldn't expect? From zero gravity or? Yeah. Being completely weightless, no gravity. So I'll go back to the way liquids behave. So part of that experiment, I had this cup. It's called the space cup. And the way astronauts drink in liquids and space currently, it kind of looks like if you're familiar with a Capri Sun juice bag. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So it's a closed pouch to lid. And it's just to prevent things from floating around in the air. And there are these brilliant, brilliant scientists and astronauts, Mark Weisel and Don Pettit. And they came up with a way for you to drink. I have one here. Drink in space using this open base cup, but it's got a special geometry. And so it kind of you looks like an ice cream cone and you put your lip to it. And when you drink something here on earth, we naturally have a linear feedback system. We tilt our head back, right? And liquid goes to the. That's true. Yeah. And so when I was drinking from this cup in zero gravity, I'm just, I'm a trained human being. And so I put my head back, but you don't need that factor. And actually the liquid went to the group of my mouth. And I almost felt like I was this drowning sensation. It was not pleasant. So I had to like a toddler reach frame myself, how to drink and not act like a dumb earthling to figure it out. Yeah. She's used to gravity. Come on. Yeah. That's exactly. Well, one of the things that I wanted to talk to you about today was humans in other worldly conditions and things like that. Now we know you need. So to be here, we have to have, you know, oxygen. We have to have water and we have to have food. If we were to take and let's hypothetically, we're on another planet, same gravity, whatever. If we had an endless supply of food, water, and the air was breathable. Fall into big savings. All in the King Supers app. Get 12 packs of delicious Coca-Cola, Pepsi or 7Up for $4.99 each. Then get 9.8 ounce packs of juicy jumbo blueberries for $3.49 each, all with your card and a digital coupon. Shop these deals at your local King Supers less than 5 miles away or tap the screen now to download the King Supers app to save big today. King Supers, fresh for everyone, prices and product availability subject to change, restrictions apply. See site for details. You probably think heat pumps are no fun, but hear us out. 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It's a universal solvent. So it facilitates a lot of the atmospheric chemistry as well. But even if you just have food and water, there are a lot of places that have strong solar flares. There are places that have these strong wind gusts. There are magnetic fields. The atmospheric compositions are different. And what is it? Mars and Venus is primarily carbon dioxide. And you go to places like Saturn where the atmosphere is made up with hydrogen. And so there's so many different factors on how we would exist as humans in other parts of the planet. I see. So if we would almost essentially have to put, even if it looks friendly, right? Even if it looks beautiful and there's all these wonderful cascading ranges and things like that, we would almost have to put bubble domes or domes in there. You know what I mean to make it exactly like Earth, because this is what has evolved us over the last god knows how long. That makes sense that we would have to have, and that would probably have to go up first, and that would have to probably take a while before it became human ready, correct? Yeah, we'd have to build all these different habitats and life support systems and all these different functions to make it adaptable for our bodies. I will say what's cool to think about. So there are the planets in our solar system, but there are also these things called exoplanets. They're a little bit smaller, but they've got atmospheric compositions and things we think about in terms of planets. And there are a whole team of scientists that are trying to find Earth-like exoplanets. And so it's fun to think about what if we find a planet that is as Earth-like as possible, and so you minimize the amount of additional work you have to do to make it livable? That's true. Yeah, and this is coming from my basic college science course, right? The atmosphere on Venus would be a lot harder to do than something like Mars, or something like that. Mercury, you can forget about it, because we would all be really tan. Yeah, and I'm a cool person, and I can barely handle Earth as well. I will see the nature of Mercury. I know, maybe the planet's evolving us out of it. Who knows? Yeah, there's some theory behind, you know, there are millions of years of evolution. If we, this gets kind of dark, you stick a bunch of humans in a place they're not meant to live, will evolution eventually make us livable in those places? There'd be a lot of sacrifices, you know, I'm not sure what the answer is to that, but that is potentially one theory. Yeah, and, you know, I believe technology is speeding up our evolution. I believe it's making us have to be smarter, faster than if we weren't, if we didn't have that technological boost. And the addition of AI, we could be in a symbiotic relationship where AI makes us better to make AI better, and then, you know, keep it going, keep it going, but, you know, who knows where that could lead, and not to get too far off a tangent. You know, I was actually on this one show, and they asked, you know, could AI destroy us? And that's the theme, right? That's the topic people want to talk about. And I said, it's never going to be, in my opinion, it's never going to be Terminator. It's never going to be these robots with guns and things like that. I said, what you should be more scared of is the laziness of factor, is the fact that people don't have to work as hard to get the same results. The fact that doctors won't have to manually do surgery anymore. Authors, writers, actors, they won't have to, you know, create content anymore. And then, when years down the road, when evolution has taken those skilled hands-on people out of it, and machines break, and you need somebody to actually do some kind of surgery, they don't know how to do it anymore. I said, that's what you should be more scared about than this whole war thing. But let me turn right here quickly to our tech sport, because we got some techs come in. Hattie in New North Carolina, you rock, girl. There you go. You rock too, Betty. Yeah, so I think you kind of answered Brian's question. Have you found any evidence of paranormal with ghost particles? And I don't believe that's the type of research you do. Oh, here's a good question for you. This is Carissa or Charissa in Texas. The movie Interstellar used NASA as a sort of guidance for its visuals and was scientifically accurate. Have you seen a space movie where the science was just flat out wrong? Oh, all the time. I try not to, okay, so I try not to be the person that goes in and is like, this is all wrong. They didn't get it correct. And just disrupting everybody throughout the movie. But very rarely our scientific, our space movie is accurate. And the ones that are intentionally trying to be sci-fi, those 100% get it passed, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, they're trying to, you know. Yeah, you should be as weird. We have to suspend belief somewhat, right? Oh, 100% and used to daydream and be as out there as much as you can. Yeah, there we go. But the other ones where you're trying to represent actual space, those get under my skin. And I will say, though, if you've seen the Martian, I think by Andy, Andy, we wrote the book. He actually, yeah, he wrote it a first time. And while he was writing it, he realized he didn't have the background, the subject matter expertise to make it correct. So he started this online blog and invited the scientific community to contribute to the book and correct him in the areas where he was wrong. So that movie actually is pretty accurate, but that's because he brought in this whole subset of people who acknowledge in those areas. That's really interesting. And that's really good, you know, as a writer, it's very hard to, like, take criticism. You know what I mean? And so, but he all opened himself to it. And I wonder what those forums were like. I wonder if they were arguing with each other as well. I think scientists love to argue. I think that's a natural part of science, right? Here's my theory. Well, my theory's right. Your theory's wrong. And some of that comes from evidence and some of that just comes from, you believe, one thing for one way for 30 years. I call them scientists food fights. I think they're entertaining. I like to watch them like soap operas. Yeah, it's, it's a sort of not dirty laundry. It's like the clean laundry. You know, you just watch them argue about their own type of thing and they're not throwing anyone else's business out there or anything like that. But yeah, I'm sure I would, I would look in on that. I would have a great time just reading that. You know, and it's funny. Scientists are just like us normal people. They have a thought in our head and they don't want it to get it out. But, but so many things in science, depending on where you take your data from, can prove things and disprove things and then also it's how you want to look at it. You know what I mean? I could go. What's here you go. The sky is blue. I could say that and some is going to argue who's like, well, it's pretty dark right now. I've seen it when it's red. I've seen it when it's great. You know, and that's, in essence, I think is a fascination with science is because you can study these things, get different answers, but build a community around doing the work. And I think that's fascinating. I think, you know, what you have there is really good because it's the best and brightest that do it. And then they should get a pass on be able, you know, to be able to say whatever they want because they have the years of schooling behind it. Not everybody had it. If being a scientist would be easy. We all would be. You know what I mean? So definitely a lot of respect to you there. Let's go back over over here. Okay, so we're going to get into a little alien talk right now. And this is your opinion on asking anything else, you know, whether you believe or not, but if you have, if you don't and you had to pick. There's two main dividers. I should say there's two main dividers in the paranormal community about extraterrestrial creatures and now they're changing the name of non human biologics, because some believe these interdimensional, which it's on a different plane. And some believe they're from another planet. In your scientific opinion, what would make more sense to you? Okay, so this is my opinion, not NASA's opinion. Yeah, I think it's absurd to believe humans are the only life form that exists at all. And the universe is unknown universe is gigantic right there are trillions of galaxies statistically there has to be life one out there. I personally believe there are other there are habitable planets that have life forms and you can call aliens biologics. I don't know what the correct term is that that exists and I don't think they're a function of what we know like to be here on planet earth. I don't think it's necessary for water for them to survive. I don't think it's necessary for them to have an atmosphere cool of oxygen. I think they're living just based on whatever the conditions were that they were given. And I think they've evolved to be intelligent beings like us. I think they've evolved to have technology. I think they have their entire ecosystems political systems beliefs. I just don't know if that exists within our solar system or our galaxy at least not with the data we found so far, but I am a firm believer that a galaxy somewhere within our known universe has these other life forms. Very well put. I forget famous scientists might have been Einstein not sure he said you know we'd be fullest to believe that we are the only life in the universe. And the thing is is there seems to be a fascination especially maybe not in the scientific community but in ours with with the word light speed you know what I mean we haven't achieved light speed light speed has a many coincidences with things here on earth and end all of that and. Fall into big savings all in the King Supers app get 12 packs of delicious Coca-Cola Pepsi or 7 up for $4.99 each then get 9.8 ounce packs of juicy jumbo blueberries for $3.49 each all with your card and a digital coupon. 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That's t-r-a-n-e.com/residential. It's hard to stop a train. To put in perspective this is something we have not gotten yet but if we got to light speed there are things you still couldn't live through if you even if you went out there because it could be 400 light years later. You know what I mean? How many generations does that have to be for you to even get out there? I totally agree and how we are based as organisms on this planet it's because this planet shaped and molded us to be what could survive here. And the reasons why we don't have any of the other things still on this planet is because they hit the end. They ran out. Or maybe they weren't able to adapt I don't know but no wonderful way to put it. I actually you know and again not a scientist but to me it would make more sense the interdimensional route where they're traveling across dimensions using time because being a higher dimensional being. They can look down on four to get to three. We can do whatever we want with two and one. We have it here. I'm looking at you know what I mean right now. But if you consider time the fourth dimension we can't go up and that's based on that. So that would be my throwing my two cents in there. But why not both you know I mean you're right because there could be planets a million light years away. And yes we do have at least enough technology that we could check our own solar system and know there's probably nothing you know here. But again who's to say there is in the third planet from a sun somewhere else that also you know could be habitable and things like that. So I really I appreciate that we got another text in an Orleans. Do you have a ghost or a weird coincidence story. Maybe growing up anything like that. I do have one. I got two actually. But the one I this one I remember more details when I was a teacher. There's always ghost stories about the haunted house or things in the neighborhood people talk about. There is this road greenhouse road in Katie Texas and I remember it that vividly where allegedly if you drove down in at night. And it was a dark road. I think it had maybe one street lights surrounded by trees and there's a bridge. You would see this old woman standing by the bridge. And there are no houses around. There's no reason anybody would walk this road. The end and beginning don't take you to anything important. And I thought this was just some sort of neighborhood. There is a night when I drove down and I swear I saw that woman and I refuse to drive down that road ever again. There is no explanation. And when I looked back in my rear view mirror she wasn't there. It was only during the moment. Yeah. And the fact that live you, not the rear view or a mirror view. Yep. And that other people had seen it. And I was like, okay, and I drove. So I looked at my rear view mirror and I was trying to think to myself. Are there tree reflections or there's some reason this is happening. But none of that wasn't like I could figure out at all. Perfect. Now let me ask you something with that. Did you feel it like right here when you looked and you saw her, you kind of knew I'm looking at something I can't really explain. I don't remember any other feeling other than just kind of my gut sinking. Like that's the feeling being in disbelief. But more in disbelief that it was actually seen it because up to that point in time. I thought it was just some folklore, but I don't remember anything else happening with my body. It was just, oh my god, is this happening kind of a mental realization. And that's what I have talked to many people who have ghost stories and I'm not. I'm not one to say I have, you know, I have like two, you know what I mean. I'm not really, but, you know, it gives you a clear mind to like look into the evidence. But, you know, but the times that I talk to people. You knew that you were looking at something that wasn't right. And I don't mean like scary or weird, but it's that disbelief feeling. It's the feeling like. Am I seeing what I really think I'm seeing? And that's the first thought that pops into your head along with the feeling. And in that some have said that, you know, your body itself knows what it's looking at. It knows it's not right. It knows it shouldn't be there. Even if it's like in a norm. Now, what you were telling me is like, you know, that's on the wall, you know, it's out on the road and on a bridge and all of that. So, yeah, I think, you know, you probably in the mere reflection, you can't. I mean, that that's really big. That's really big that you didn't see it in the rear view. So there you go, Tammy. That is your question. Greenhouse. What was that? Said greenhouse road. That was my experience. The house for Katie, Texas. Hey, send if you're anyone listening here there, go ahead and send a text in or a comment here on our comment board. So let's talk about carbon capture paint. Let's do it. Let's do it. So. First of all, congrats that this is wonderful. This is something that could change humanity. You know what I mean? And I don't say that lightly. I truly mean that you're giving you give the power of doing something to aid our planet in the hands of people rather than companies, governments, organizations, things like that. Tell me why you started this and how it actually came to be to now to the day. Yeah, it's all a bit. I'm still trying to figure out how it got to what it is today. A little bit. Yeah, I've worked on. So I work in the space industry. I've worked on environmental technology for space for about the past 10 years. I've always been interested in that world with how to keep humans alive. Those environment factors, the ones that we know for human life, so air, water, food, and a couple years ago, I realized, huh, I should maybe try to apply some of that knowledge to earth, specifically when it comes to carbon dioxide in the air. And we can go back and forth on whether or not climate change is real. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion. But based on my personal beliefs, I wanted to do something about it. And anytime you have a new idea, you should look around and see what's already out there. Do your due diligence, research, see what's working, see what's not working and where you can contribute. And I realized when it comes to carbon capture, so removing carbon dioxide from the air, I like to tell people, if I tell you to reach out in the air around you, you can't just grab onto molecule CO2 and see it right you can't directly remove it. So there are no technologies when it comes to us or your family or your neighbors to do something about that. And we realized, okay, that's our starting point. We really want to give everyone the power to make a difference there. Everybody, the ability to do carbon capture, and not just have it in the hands of the government and industry, like where it currently is. And we knew we wanted to do that, and we binged our heads a little bit on what that was going to look like. And we came up with the idea to make a paint. Paint because it's easy. It's not the size of 10 refrigerators. I don't want to ask somebody to put another refrigerator inside of their house. None of us have enough space as it is. It's cost effective. I'm not going to ask the everyday people to use something that costs them hundreds of dollars because none of us could barely afford groceries as it is. And so we came up with the idea of this paint and it's not like paint you'll find in a store not yet we're trying to get there. It's all non-toxic. You don't smell it. So when you paint the inside of your house, if you've ever noticed a strong smell. That's because it's got a lot of chemicals in it that off gas or vaporize into the air. We don't have any of that. All the ingredients of the paint are unique formula. I built my own chemistry lab in my house to develop all of this. It's, I'd show it to you, but it's messy and chaotic and it's every mad scientist cliche that you've probably ever heard. You got Frankenstein and then the plasma ball and all of that. There's a section of dead bugs that get a look at me, which is a whole other conversation. Oh, and you need this switch that's like ungodly huge that you're like, you know what I mean? Yeah, the neon lights flickering. Yes, the neon lights. Yes. Yeah, so we made this paint and it has this special rocket. Actually, I don't want to say special. It's the most abundant rock on planet earth called olivine and carbon dioxide naturally likes to stick to olivine. So we get that into powder form. You can think of it as solid dust and mix it into our special paint. Yeah, that's it. The paint does all the science for you. You can put it on any surface. You don't see any changes. All the science happens at the microscopic levels, but you are, we like to say, cleaning the air with paint, which is, which is pretty cool. That's so cool. So. The fact, well, I didn't know, you know what I mean, that that rocks can, you know what I mean, it will stick to the rocks because one of my questions was, you know, after a while, doesn't it collect so much that the paint would fade or discolor or is there a shelf life to the paint. You are you are thinking like a scientist. These are these are all the questions I get from the science community. So the cool thing is, you are correct. After a while, the rock becomes full full of CO2. It doesn't. Imagine almost like a sponge. Yeah. And if anybody ever tells you their technology works forever, you should automatically be skeptical, right? If I were telling you that you should not believe me, first of all. But it does keep depending on where you live, but keep capturing carbon dioxide for up to three to five years, which is, which is pretty nice. And then what happens after that it's up to you. You can leave it. It doesn't have any faded visible changes, or you could put a fresh. It's just not active, right? Yeah, it's just not active anymore. And then you can just put a fresh layer over it and then you have a whole new active layer of paint. That was my next question was, you know, would you be able just to repaint over it? Excellent. So, um, it captures CO2. Now, I know, you know, energy cannot be created nor destroyed, but this is a material. You know, I mean, it can change forms. What on the molecular level, how, you know, what does it, how does it change? Fall into big savings. All in the King Supers app. Get 12 packs of delicious Coca-Cola, Pepsi or 7-Up for $4.99 each, then get 9.8 ounce packs of Juicy Jumbo Blueberries for $3.49 each, all with your card and a digital coupon. 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It does a little bit of molecular rearrangement, so it actually starts as CO2, and then when all that geological chemistry happens, it turns into something that's not CO2. We can think of it as limestone, a carbonate material, and then it's just geologically locked in place forever. So even if, let's say, somebody scrapes that paint off or lands up in a landfill somewhere, it's no longer, it's not CO2, you're going to release back into the atmosphere, It's stuck in a non-toxic form. Yeah, because it has changed chemically, so it's not CO2 anymore, right? With the compound in the rock, it changes into something completely different, which is wonderful. So, we convert oxygen into CO2. This rock converts CO2 into something else. It does not make it oxygen again. It doesn't make it oxygen again. Yeah, nope. Okay, so, but it's holding it, right? And so, I guess my question is, how is it then cleaning there? You're removing it, and you're allowing, so you're aiding trees then, essentially. You can think of it as a process similar to trees where some people will say it's breathing in CO2, but the challenging part with anything that removes CO2 from the air is what do you do after once you capture the CO2. A lot of technologies will try to turn it into something like oxygen or another useful byproduct, but that's actually a pretty energy intensive process, which requires more CO2 to do that. And so, we tried to steer away from that because we don't want to create more of the problem that we're trying to solve. And so this removes the CO2 and stores it in a way that's safe, not only safe, but also doesn't have a high carbon footprint, so it's not making the situation worse. Okay, excellent. So, um, I would, okay, so logically next I'm thinking the immediate need would be for areas with a lot of humans, a lot of people and a lot of businesses giving off CO2 or breathing out CO2. So, you know, cities, right, cities are, or, you know, a hub for that. How can this affect people not also in the cities, you know what I mean, speak to like the small town aspect of it. Yeah, and, you know, this gets a little political, unfortunately, so I have a tattoo, let's see, on my wrist. This is 350 PPM. That's the amount of CO2 measurable CO2 that was in the atmosphere, the year I was born. I think we're up to close to 500 PPM now, that's only however old I am 36 years of existence. And that's CO2, there are pockets of the world where we have higher concentrations. Like you just alluded to these industrial areas of these big cities, but it doesn't discriminate, it's in the atmosphere everywhere. And the effect that it has on the planet globally, it's not just going to rain down on these pockets of high CO2 areas. When we have those titles shifts or these effects on urban farms, or the effects on just the overall air chemistry, that's going to be across the entire planet. That's not just going to be in these highly residential populated areas. So, unfortunately, even if you don't live in these, these parts of the world that are big CO2 emitters, you're going to get, you're going to get the downstream effects of that. Yeah, you're getting other people's breath. Yeah, that's the shame of it. Okay, so what would be, what would be next? I know you have a Kickstarter that's going on right now and everybody listening, please carbon capture paint from the people's CO2 on Kickstarter, please go out and donate whatever you can $1, $5, $10, whatever you can tell Tonya out and to get this wonderful product out. So getting to your goal on Kickstarter. What does that kick off? What does that kick start? We have, I think, 72 hours left of the Kickstarter, which is a little scary to say out loud. So that's really the first step is trying to meet our first goal of making that fully funded. Have you ever used Kickstarter? Are you familiar with how they operate? I have not, no, no. Yeah, so they are all or nothing. You set a financial goal. Yeah, yeah, you set a financial goal of friends. And if you meet that, you get all the money people contributed. If the goal is not met, Kickstarter gives all the money back to the contributors. So you don't, you don't get anything else. So we're in the finals. Yeah, we're in the final stretch. We're not quite at our goal yet. So we're doing everything we can to get there. And it's a great opportunity to try the paint. You'll be the first one, the first ones in the world to get your hands on it. We have different options for you to get it through there. We're also doing a giveaway. If you join the kickstart in the next 24 hours, I do artwork on the side. And so I've used this art, this paint to make space theme artwork. And so we'll be doing a random giveaway to anybody who joins the next 24 hours. So get the paint, and then you can hang funky space up in your house that also cleans the air, which nobody else in the world could say. So that's where it makes a really cool gift. That's really cool. I didn't know you offered that for so yeah, like that's going to be a wonderful gift. People will be able to do that. So, okay, so you reach that. What are you trying to do next? Yeah, really the name of our game. I know I said earlier, I need a bumper sticker that says I love water. But next to that, a bumper sticker that says I love surface area. Because the more surfaces we get this paint on, the larger of an impact we can have. And so really we want to, this kickstarter is going to help us scale up and make enough paint to get the product out into the world. And then just mass marketing, mass reaching out to a lot of people as possible to get the paint in their hands. We also do a lot of giving paint to schools as a donation so kids can use it and learn about just the environment. We collaborate with local artists. They do some really fun murals. We have conversations with me on work right now and talks. And so there's a lot of different areas to play with this and see where it goes. But the thing that matters the most to me is just making an impact and this making a difference. And the way we're going to be a part of that equation is if people try it out and just get this paint on to any surface than one. Excellent. So if I were to ask like surface area wise, like say you have a 10 by 10 room and you paint, you know, that room that's 100 square foot. Would that capture all the CO2? Some of the CO2? How does that work? Yeah. So that size room would use maybe what a gallon of paints I'm trying to do. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah. So a gallon of paint is about 11 or 13 pounds. It can the really cool thing about this paints that I know I'm biased here. I'm going to say everything's really cool. But it can hold up to half of its weight in CO2. So just by painting that room with your one gallon of paint, you'll be capturing six to seven pounds of CO2 for the year, which is pretty significant. You probably think heat pump systems are boring. Train heat pumps are fully electric and highly efficient. Engineer to maximize your comfort and minimize your energy usage. Train HVAC could save you over $500 per year on your energy bills and thanks to rebates and incentives. Going electric can cost the same as a traditional air conditioning installation. And to train.com/residential, it's hard to stop a train. Is there any feeling somebody might get from, you know, how would they know it's working? You know, would they, would they know a difference, I should say? You can't physically see it. If you put it on something like a wall, it's a little challenging for you to quantify. But if you put it on a physical option, object, let's say you've got a frame for a picture, a gardening pot, a wooden post. And you weigh that over time, over a couple of years, it'll actually get heavier. That weight will be heavier because it's capturing carbon dioxide from the air. So you can actually quantify it that way. So that's where it's going. It's going into the mass of the object that you're painting. Wonderful, wonderful. That sounds so cool. So yes, everyone, again, please, carbon capture paint from the people CO2 on Kickstarter. And at the end, Tony, you'll give out your contact if anybody wants to get a hold of you for anything. But one thing I want to stress is I haven't done Kickstarter. I forgot. I did know that it was the all or nothing. But I've had friends who've reached success by not on their first attempt. Are you thinking if you don't get there, you'll go back up? I don't know if we would do Kickstarter again, but we're definitely, if we don't make it, we're not going to let this stop what we're trying to do. So we, I think we would pause for a moment and figure out a new fundraising plan or a new way to get to our goals. But it would be unfortunate because this is something we've worked really hard for. And one of the cool things about Kickstarter is it's 100% people backed and people funded. So by doing this route, we don't have to take any money from corporations or big oil companies or people that are potentially contributing to the problem. And so this, I think this is a pure way of doing it. That's, that's one of the questions I actually had written down was, you know, we've heard of companies buying things and shelving them. And, you know, that's something people and especially the people that listen to this program do not like that. So, you know, please, let's get out there. Let's, you know, donate whatever we can. But, you know, I guess the next route, you would probably look for private investors and things like that that would just, I don't know, anything to keep away from the corporations because you don't want them to. Oh, anybody, you know what I mean? Like, you don't want to owe anybody that way. And in the private way, you might have to pay it back. It might be more of a loan, but, you know, you still retain everything, you know what I mean? But in terms of getting stuff out there, I, I've been a part of everything, IT, digital marketing, all anything like that, have you tried the Google ads way, Facebook ads, TikTok ads, things like that. We've been all over the internet. Yeah. So I've explained different digital marketing routes. The challenging part is not getting the word out there. Just getting the engagement back and finding the right audience that people are interested in. And I know there, I think we live in a, the current age. There's so much stuff thrown at us all the time, right? Yeah. We're constantly bombarded by this, by that, by ads. You should care about this. You should not care about that. And I think just things are starting to get lost in all that noise and figuring out how to weave through that and not being another person who's just telling you to. To get on board with my cause or buy my product, I haven't figured out the best way to navigate that yet. Well, I think the best way is through you is getting your personality out there. This is exactly why, you know, I wanted to have you want. I want people to know not about the paint, but why you invented it. Why, what's the story behind it? Why you are doing this? And, you know, you have a great message to tell and you have a great story to tell. And, you know, you're going to be on my other show coming up soon, chasing prophecy. So we'll be, you know, back to talk about that one as well. But, you know, I really wanted you to keep going, keep moving forward, you know, and this is something I can that could change the world. And everything uses paint. Everything uses paint. You were so smart and your team was so smart by going that route rather than another individual. I mean, another industrial thing. It's almost like, well, you're fixing something with an eyesore almost, you know what I mean? And paint can be any color, you know, and it's everywhere, everywhere. So even if you can get, you know, that process down, you know what I mean? And market that as well, you know, we're here to help. And please stay, you know, keep in touch with me. I want to, you know, back as back as much as I can, you know, and what can what I can do to help. So please, you know, don't forget about Tom. I appreciate that. And especially people who give us platforms to get the word out. I've also been telling people if you don't, well, I won't say don't care about the paint, but you're not interested in the paint. Support us just for being a people-led movement because we are very selective about where we take our financial contributions from. Who we work with, how we're approaching this. This really is a grassroots built from the ground up. And I think that's hard to find these days when you're trying to tackle something this big. And it, I, you've all been transparent. It makes things harder for us because we're sticking by that. And so if anything, just help us out there for that reason. No, you're so, you're so right because in this day and age, if you were backed by somebody for other reasons, people would find that out. I mean, you know, there's everybody's an investigator anymore. So, you know, they would definitely find that out. But we have a couple minutes remaining. Tell everybody where they can find you, you know, and promote, promote, promote. Go ahead. We are splattered like paint all over the Internet. So this is under, it's the only clever line that I have. We are social media handles, I think, are called People's CO2. You can buy Instagram is the one we're most active on. And then you can buy me directly through there as well. Just send us a message. The Kickstarter is a great place just to find out more about the product, the product itself, the paint itself. One message just through there. Yeah, I think that's where we mostly are at the moment. Perfect, perfect, perfect. I sent you the links to share, please comment below with the link. People, you know, I'm going to have Tonya put the link below this show. So go ahead and comment the link and then people can go and donate from there. Checking back real quick on the text board. Bette in California, you are amazing. Danny, Minnesota, keep going. I don't know if I read Hattie, but you rock girl. Can't wait to buy this paint fill in Georgia. So there are some many supporters that you have and get out there. Yes, the links that I sent you comment, Tonya, and then people will have an area where they can go. And I were tweeted everywhere and, you know, check the momentum. That's one thing. Check if you get up into the point in the last 24 hours and the momentum's high, maybe it's worth taking to look. You know what I mean? And even, you know, maybe lower the number. And if you want 10,000, go for 5,000, that way you don't have to take so much from someplace else. I don't know, something like that. You know, it's trial and error. Not a lot of things in your field and in mind. So thank you so much, Tonya. I really appreciate everything. And that is every, that is all for today, everybody. We have been broadcasting live from the United Arab Public Radio Network and the UFO Paranormal Radio Network 1053 in Gulf Point, Mississippi in 1077 in New Orleans. We've been also airing live on Roku TV. 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