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Beyond the Radar- Mark Way Ufologist

Welcome back everyone, this week we talk to Ufologist Mark Way and pick his brain on UFO matters. We also continue our Summer of Species with Insectoid Aliens!

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1h 11m
Broadcast on:
23 Sep 2024
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There are unexplained phenomena happening daily around the globe, and we are here to talk about it. Your portal into UFOs, paranormal, cryptids, the supernatural, the mysterious, the unknown. This is beyond the radar, and this is your host, humanoid Tom Koway. Welcome back everybody to the Beyond the Radar Radio Show, your paranormal news program. We are broadcasting live on the United Public Radio Network and the UFO Paranormal Radio Network 1053 on the Gulf Coast and 1077 in New Orleans. You can also check us out on the UPR and Facebook and YouTube page beyond the radar's Facebook or YouTube page and we are also on Roku TV now, so hello to everybody out there in TV land streaming checking us out. You can check us out there for our archives or subscribe to be on the radar's podcast on Spotify for past shows. Today as you saw the promo, not the promo, you guys see that, you know, we have Mark Way, a guest, a ufologist, and he's not going to call himself that alcohol on that because he's a very intelligent individual. You don't need a degree in ufology, I don't even know if there is one. I think Michigan has something weird like that, but who knows. But anyway, you don't need a degree, he's earned the title of ufologist. And anybody who's followed us at the end of last year, we have a labeled paranormal podcast that we just talk and shoot the shit about whatever we want, and honestly, he's always been great, always had a ton of great episodes there in content. And if you were on UPRN and watched our solar eclipse episode, you saw him and another one of our good friends, Jennifer Stevens, who all three of us are in UFOs over PA. And hopefully the times gets changed, Mark, so I'm not doing this at the same time and I can attend more. But yeah, no, so it's going to be a great episode. You guys know we're doing the summer of species, you know, and we already went over Grays and we did Anunnaki last week. And you know, Mark and I, we could talk forever about Grays at the Anunnaki, but I really wanted to get into one that's maybe a little more uncommon than what we, you know, Mark and I certainly know about it, but it's not as, you know, popular as those two and it's be insect toys or mantids, mantis, humanoids, whatever you want to call it, there's always different names for it. Yes, so we will be getting into a little bug insectoid knowledge here, going deep into some of the lore about them, what makes them up and also talking a little bit about Craig Campobasa or Campobasa, his book on the extraterrestrial species, almanac, wonderful book, a lovely read and we'll, you know, excerpt a little bit and we'll give him credit. So if he's listening, you know, we're not stealing anything, you know, I'll show the book. We bought it. And then yeah, so let's, you know, oh, actually, how could I forget? I have some video evidence, some deep dives down in, you know, it's, it's harder and harder and I'm going to get on to my conspiracy soapbox here. It's getting harder and harder to find these videos in American, on American internet. So if you know browsers and you can get to the European version or you have a VPN, there's, not as much backlash. So I found from the UK a video of suspected, um, mantoids or insect a few videos that Mark and I are going to brainstorm, pick apart here and see if we can debunk or, or, you know, say, Hey, there's nothing here that says with, um, this is outwardly fake. So, um, all that beside, let me get into a mushy point. Thank you all for purchasing healer. Um, you guys have done a wonderful job. I really appreciate everybody the love, um, helping, you know, purchase healer and things like that. 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And to train.com/residential for more info on heat pumps and available incentives, that's t-r-a-n-e.com/residential. It's hard to stop a train. Without further ado, I'm going to bring on Mark and have him talk a little bit about himself before we get into everything. Mark, welcome to Beyond the Radar, your paranormal news program. How are you doing today? I am doing phenomenal today. Thank you for having me on, Tom. I'm excited to be here. I like the format for your program. Let's talk about aliens. All right. Awesome. That's what we love to hear. We love to talk about aliens. And since this is live and we're not under a network, we get to choose whatever we want and we can cause, which is really cool. All right. Oh, shit. There. But let's see. Do you want to start with the summer of species? Do you want to talk about the theorization of UFOs as angelic or demonic creatures? Or should we do video, video evidence? You pick up to you. Let's do. Well, how about we start with the video evidence first? Let's see what you got. What do you want to bring to the table? Sure. Sure. Excellent. Excellent. Dealers choice. That's how we do it because I'm sure we'll jump back and forth. Oh, yeah. We're getting a lot of stuff. Yeah. And the lovely stream yard gets to put a pin it right here and it's really easy to see. Nice on it. Okay, Mark, I got three videos for you. Go ahead and pick a number one, two or three. How about two? Okay. So this one is from Oak Ridge, California. Oak Ridge, Tennessee, but I'm going to go ahead and watch the upper corner here. It's going to show three or four times. So don't worry about if you miss it. There, there was at full speed. Here's half speed. Whoa. And here's a 10th speed. You can really see the definition here that. So what happens to it after that? Here's the side view. Here's the side view. So not only was this, you know, captured, it's right there. Oh, we'll see. It goes in front of the houses. That might just be a bug right there. At the same time? Well, let's see. Let's see. Let me go ahead and do it again. That is, that is pretty wild coming out from behind the mountain right there. I don't know what that is. That is pretty. I don't know either. They're trying to say that it was at the same time, the, this side video here. However, when you see this up top, it's, it's about the height of the tree. When you saw it from the coming at you angle, yeah, I thought it was a lot lower than that. Yeah, see to me, that other video makes it look like a bug. It's kind of hard to tell. But the first one is very dramatic. I'd like to see an extended version of the first one. That could be something different. That could be unrelated. I think it is unrelated. It starts from over the tree line. Yeah, it looks like it's coming from behind the mountain. It just pops up there. That's pretty crazy. It is. Yeah. Obviously, a high rate of speed. Yeah, high. So, so here's with me. The first thing I drew concern with was there was a car driving away right as, or not right as, but in the very beginning of the video clip, you see it driving away, driving, and all cars have brake lights and brake lights are highly reflective because they're supposed to get your attention in the dark. So, you know, I thought, okay, maybe something could be playing a trick as it was turning. You know what I mean? If it could turn, maybe it was playing a reflection off that. And that certainly seems the case for that second video, how he was claiming this was also capture on a second video. I don't, I agree with you. Yeah. And you called that right away. I don't think the second one is related to the first one. Yeah, it doesn't look compelling. I don't even, it just looks like above that second one. The first one, though, that could be that that's very dramatic looking. It is very dramatic looking. And I will also, this is interesting. And why I picked that up goes with the segue that we're going to talk about later of the angelic and paranormal aspect to UFOs, rather than an entire being or entity. The interesting thing is it looked almost more paranormal to me because it was more of our interpretation in this dimension of that entity rather than a physical craft. That's how I took that there. The first video. Yeah, yeah, the one coming past. It seemed, it seemed very, it almost seemed like an explosion to me, but I could definitely see that because I have been seeing these videos. Remember, I think I told you about this, about the, the, the scientific paper for these sort of plasma life forms. And I've been seeing these videos lately of these sort of plasma like beings. And I wouldn't be able to find this video right now. But there is this video of this very clearly, it looks like a white blob, and it very clearly morphs into this weird angelic shape. And it's just floating in the sky. You know, it's really wild looking. So yeah, the plasma entities are something that I don't know, I guess has gotten more publicity. Or been talked about more, I should say that rather than publicity, been talked about more over the last year or two. And, you know, if our technology is ever changing, it'd be stupid to think other civilizations, technology or not, you know what I mean? So it could be just a new form of technology, of technology that they have. One thing that I'm going to show you, and this kind of touches on that a little bit, it's a picture, it's not a video, but I'm going to go ahead and show you this one. Where is it? Let me get it up here first, heard. There we go. You know, for IT, I really do save everything everywhere. I do the exact same thing. All right, can you see that? Let me see. Nothing showing up for me. Let me, did you put in the private chat? It's sharing a window. Okay, well, that's fine. I'm going to copy and I'll put it in the private chat for everyone, and then everyone else can see it. All right, the private chat is not allowing video there, but just go ahead and check your email because I went ahead and did it that way. Just so you can take a look, we can both see it. Once you've got it, take a look and I'll present it again for everybody watching that. Hang on. Your Gmail account. Yeah, my Gmail, it's sometimes it takes a little bit. But what it reminds me of is a capture of a plasma undulation. Yeah. And it almost reminds me of how Jeremy Corbell talked about the chandelier. The jellyfish UFO. Yeah. And did you see? Okay, here we go. This night. Okay, yeah, that's pretty wild looking. Wow. So I'm going to go ahead and get that back for everyone who's watching at home. There we go. They can take a look here and you see one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, six around. Yeah. And one sort of in the center and it's almost like it's cock eyed. So it's not phrasing directly at the camera. It's off an angle. Yeah. But that was reported by somebody in. I do not know. That's my bad, but that was somebody reported here in the United States to be on the radar news.com that picture. And that's just a cut of it. There was a big, you know, it was bigger. I just cut it down. So yeah, and zoomed in to make it look bigger. But that was very interesting. And that's what reminded me when you said that I instantly thought of that one. Yeah. About how these plasma entities undulate sort of. And they're more daytime, aren't they? They're more daytime. That's the weird thing about them is that you can see them. You could speak just like this. You can film them. I mean, obviously, they'd be very rare to actually see one, but you know, they appear to be daytime plasma. You know, they and this may in some weird way relate to angels of the Bible, something like that. Well, we'll put a pin in that one because that's going to be a great discussion point to talk about, you know, some of those theories. And it was something that was completely unknown to me. Yeah. That theory, you know what I mean, that whatever you want to call it, but it does have some, I'm not going to say, you know, gung ho 100% for it, but it does have some info interesting takes. And some sort of evidence and, you know, us being smoke and fire people. Hmm. Why is the Vatican so into it? You know what I mean, that's, and that's the thing. Yeah. I don't, I don't know if you want to keep because we could, we could talk all about that. But what was the other thing that you want to talk? You want to talk about in, in a sec, or you had two other videos? Yeah, I still have two other videos. Yeah. And actually this next one that I'm going to, I'm going to pull this one up. This might be a nighttime plasma because fall into big savings, fall in the King supers app, get 12 packs of delicious Coca Cola Pepsi or 7 up for $4.99 each, then get 9.8 ounce packs of juicy jumbo blueberries for $3.49 each, all with your card and a digital coupon. Shop these deals at your local King supers, less than five miles away, or tap the screen now to download the King supers app to save big today. King supers, fresh for everyone, prices and product availability subject to change, restriction supply, see site for details. You probably think heat pumps are no fun, but hear us out. Train heat pumps are fully electric and highly efficient, engineered to maximize your comfort and minimize your energy usage. That's fun, right? And thanks to rebates and incentives, upgrading to a train heat pump system can cost the same as a traditional air conditioning installation. That means you're getting more without paying more. That's definitely fun. And how about this? Train HVAC could save you over $500 per year on your energy bills. That means you're getting more without paying more and you're saving more. If that's not fun, we officially do not know what fun is. Pay attention because it really, there's a lot of undulation and moving and a lot going on. It's not the best quality video, but this one is, um, this one is from, and I'll get the, this is a plantation Florida. Add this one here. Take a look there in the middle. So it looks like just a star or a dog right there, but wait for him to zoom in. He gets pretty good visual with this. Yeah. Cut it off a little too quickly, but he does have some undulation if you, when he stands, you know, he gets some, uh, steady camera right there. Yeah. You see it pulsating. You see multiple pulsations going around sort of clockwise there. It is, it is interesting. Um, it, you know, it's, it's interesting when it's like the brightest object in the sky like that because where are the other stars, why, why is that one shining, you know, brighter than all the other stars and not moving like a plane or anything. It's just staying in the sky. It is very unusual. Absolutely. Very, very unusual. Um, what I'm going to, um, what I'm going to do now is, you know, I am not, I'm not above Mark, um, emailing myself links. So I do that all the time. So. Okay. Um, so I have a better version of this screenshot for you and do the same thing like we did with the other one. I sent it to your email and, um, we'll present this to everybody. Let me know when you got it. So for everyone who's watching and can see this one, you know, you see the multiple orbs on this orb itself, which, yeah. Okay. So this is zoomed in. Yeah. Um, and then so when you have an image like that, and then I play this, that's what it's doing, dancing up in that sky there. Yeah. Um, I saw a video on our UFOs Reddit slash UFOs early day of a dude who was video. I think he was in Texas on a set in Arizona right here. I'm, I'm probably just, I'll probably just email you this link so you could show it, but it reminds me of that. Um, you know, I just, I just replied to your email, um, but it reminds me of that and how bright it was because in this video that I just sent you, um, you could see stuff kinda in, you could see lights in the background. You could see the stars, but these lights are so bright in the sky and it's, it's constantly reported that it, the, the UFOs, the lights of the UFO are like a welding light and that's what it looks like. And what you just showed me here, it, that it looks like the same light, you know, and it's just really incredible. Yeah, look at that. Um, I'm looking at yours now. Yeah. That is absolutely wild. Um, I wish I could clip this for people here. Um, but you're, you're absolutely right. It's the size or it's the brightness. Yeah, it's just, you know, um, light, you know, is, is, are the elements that we make like, you know what I mean? That that's what it is. Or if you break a certain particle with sound, it creates a light, I forget, but, um, you know, but who's to say different elements can create different, I mean, we know different elements create different light. You have green, you know what I mean? You have a copper, you have a brownish light, you know, you have different kinds of elements that do that. They might have just figured out one better, and it's not just that. It's a big speculation on this part where why the light is so intense, where it comes from, but it's so big, you know what I mean? It looks like it's on fire almost is because it's, um, essentially, um, using nuclear radiation. It's, it's radiating itself and creating some sort of bright plasma. Fall into big savings. 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That means you're getting more without paying more and you're saving more. If that's not fun, we officially do not know what fun is. And to train.com/residential for more info on heat pumps and available incentives, that's t-r-a-n-e.com/residential. It's hard to stop a train. Field around itself. And I mean, to operate these kind of machines, you need an immense amount of energy and that creates a lot of light. Basically, that's the theory. It's a theory that's been around for a while. But one thing I want to add, and this just came to the top of my head as you were saying it, I've thought about it before. I don't know the answer and I'm afraid to find out. But are we just not going to be in tune with many extraterrestrial civilizations because our simple biology cannot handle radioactive material? Well, and not just that, but another theory that's coming around in high level schools like Harvard and Stanford is that lower level biology, like ants and birds and stuff like that, they are actually, they're following magnetic patterns, geomagnetic patterns on the earth. And not just that, it's speculated that there is like a magnetic sort of hive mind situation, like for a colony of ants, there's like a life field that controls the colony. Rather than each one having consciousness, it's like a wireless field that they all share a very similar consciousness. And what could be happening is that we are not even in tune, we're not even able to be in tune with higher levels of consciousness to be able to do what you're saying, you know what I mean? Our biology may not be able that we might just be monkeys here, stuck on this planet. And you know, that gets into some of the parts that I was like, oh, I'm trying to find the answer, you know what I mean? Because it would be very sad, you know what I mean? That in certain aspects, you have dominion over an ant, and in other aspects, it has dominion over you. And you know, it's awful, but it would also lend to the theory that we were introduced and not evolved from the planet. And that can be a whole episode in and of itself right there. But, you know, we just have a bunch of buckets. We have a we have to think about this as a bunch of buckets in our minds in in in our hive mind as, you know, ecologists and people who study metaphysics and in paranormal. All we have to do is just keep all these open buckets. And when we find something that fits in one of them, you grab like a point or, you know, and be like, all right, that goes in that bucket. That's one more point for that theory. You know what I mean? And that's what essentially it is for the hybridization model of, you know, whether you want to think it's Ananaki or some other race, you know what I mean? That came here. It, it makes sense because what do all of those other animals have in sex animals, whatever you want, have that we don't well, if it originated from this planet, it had to have been born from this planet. And we are always told we are a part of the universe. Yeah, but how many people say animals are a part of the universe? You know what I mean? We just might have a different origin story than they do for better or for worse. You know what I mean? Some things are obviously better, but that could be why, you know, they have this hive mind attached to the planet. Yeah, we all know about the hive mind with insects and and things like that. And, you know, we'll get into, you know, the mantis, too, which is theorized in this book that they have they have consciousness, I've are a consciousness and a hive mind where they can tap into either one, they can be their own thing or they can go into the hive mind state. And when they go into the hive mind state, that's like essentially their government. That's all right. What do we need to do? You know what I mean? And they go do what they have to do on their own and have consciousness for that. But they always revert back. You know, it's like the old school when he used to learn like the government in school, that 51, 49%, you know what I mean? Like 40% conscious, but 51% hive mind, what you can do both. So great, great topic right there. I let me get this third video up and pay attention because it's quick. Okay. Okay. So you have this guy zooming in on two fighters going and he zooms out and there's nothing but wait for the middle going right to left. Okay, it might not have shown it there. I'll try to do my best if you could see my mouse. There you go. Oh, yeah, I saw like a little little flash. Yeah, it's not it's not a big one, but it was certainly moving way too fast. Even people commenting on that one said, I couldn't see it, but the fact that it was going way too fast is actually a point for you because, you know, what else could go that far? What else could go that quick? It'd be interesting to know what that facility was that they're flying. If it was definitely interesting for that one as well. I'm also going to show you this one that I had last week, but it's really cool. Have you ever seen a drone capturing a UFO? Well, let's see it. I don't think I have. Look, it's going to come like this way. Oh, I think I did see this one. Oh, man. Oh, is there a way to pause it on that? Yeah, I'm going to try. All right, it's right there. Pause it there. Oh, man. Oh, man. That's you know, you might have to go frame by frame for that one, but that is definitely quick. That's not a bug. That is definitely quick. I wonder. I wonder where that's over. Is that over like, oh, Jersey? Okay, that's interesting. Oh, I'm trying. Yeah, it definitely looks like a small white object, which is in line with. Oh, there we go. Right there. Can you see my mouse right now? No, I can't see your mouse. Okay. Do you see you have the cul-de-sac you right here? Yeah, yeah. Do you see the car on the far side of the you? Okay. Parked on the side of the road. Yeah. Now, take that and go up right till you get to the corner of the L tree line. Okay. I hit it. Yeah, it's it's the really tough to see it, but I can see it when it's moving. Yeah. It definitely looks like a small white object going incredibly fast. Yeah, incredibly fast. I had no reformer on last week, and they were crazy about that when they were like, wow, I've never seen a UFO captured by a drone. Yeah. And, you know, it was yeah, way too fast to be a bird or a bug and way too low to be another craft. And if it distorts a little bit over the airwaves like this, so if you were, you know, to see that in person, and I can send you an email of it. Yeah, I can send you an email of it. You can see it a little bit better when you widescreen the whole thing, you know, and have it. It's a relatively good quality camera. Right. And one of them were drone pilots and said, oh, wow, he's using it and knew exactly what kind of drone is used for that. He said, there's only certain grade that have that kind of quality of video on top of it. But no, it's really, really cool. But I had that on last time, and it was way too fast. But when you get it and you see it, this thing has to be like, like maybe six feet around, like diameter, it's a very small. Yeah. Yeah, it's not, you know, it wasn't a big one. You know, you would think it would be an individual passenger. It was a UFO and things like that. So, yeah. All right. So we're about halfway through, we're going to take a break here for a couple minutes. And then we will get into our theory, and then we'll end with the insectoid aliens. 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There's not much concrete knowledge on this right now, but there was a there was an article that I'm going to share a couple highlights from for you, Mark, and get your feedback on from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. And this is by author Gary, or I'm sorry, Robert Duncan. And this just came out on June 18th, two days ago. So, he claims in his article that a group of scientists and researchers are seeking to access the Vatican Apostolic Archives or VAA to uncover information about UFOs in the paranormal, believing there are traces among the and this is an accurate estimate 50 miles of shelving holding everything from handwritten papal notes to presidents or presidential missions or missives. So, this is gaining momentum after David Grusch's testimony. And we all heard that he alleged the Vatican had an involvement with Pope Pius XII and he back-channeled information to the United States about a crashed UFO recovered by fascist dictator Benito Mussolini. Again, whether smoke there's fire, Mussolini and the United States were not on the best terms in the 30s. So, the fact that they were working together means something was probably up there. The secretary of the archives or the secretary to the perfect prefect of the archives said he has no idea how he gained this information. And they are hesitant because they said one can laugh at what we have in our documents. So, not really a good, not really a good example or a good reason why not to turn things over. Fine. Go ahead. So, I think it's kind of interesting. It's kind of another, I think his name is Bill Nelson. I had a NASA take of just saying, "Oh, we don't have any of that." Meanwhile, you have two books by Diana Pissalka specifically about this subject. You know, UFOs aside, the Vatican archives are, you know, probably one of the most important archives, places of documents in the world. You know, the Vatican archives are probably the only place where you can truly, if you are a good enough researcher, be able to paint a picture of the ancient world, be able to look back into antiquity. A lot of stuff like that was lost. The Vatican archives has things in it that are priceless, things that, you know, it would give us much greater context about the past if the public was allowed to read this stuff. But the fact of the matter is Diana Pissalka did have access to these archives and she specifically went there to just study the archives and she thought UFOs were silly until she studied enough of the archives and came to the conclusion that, wait a minute, this is like the same subject. We're talking about the same thing, you know, metaphysical beings coming down aiding humans with advanced technology. These are, you know, what's his name, Salfire. I forget which one saw the burning bush. Abraham, you know, Abraham saw the burning bush. You could consider that to be a glowing plasma orb. I saw one of those that was my UFO experience, not like as dramatic as a burning bush or whatever, but, you know, it didn't tell me anything. I just saw it in the middle of the field. It was not dramatic at all. But, you know, this subject, it's so deep and that is the truth behind it. We need a Harvard and these top institutions to go back and review these Vatican archives because the entirety of the Vatican archives are being held under the perspective of the Catholic Church and not no offense to any Catholics, but, you know, 14th century Catholic Church. We're not exactly talking about science here, you know what I mean? We need some people to go in there and be like, oh, all these villagers saw an angel come down on a golden orb from the sky. Oh, that was obviously a UFO encounter of some kind, you know, like... That's so funny you say that because I've also read about Diane Passolka and very smart woman and I believe North Carolina, University of North Carolina, or yeah, I think it's University of North Carolina at Wilmington. She was a religious studies professor, so she's not, and again, nothing wrong with that, but she's not coming in as a physicist that's going over there to read about this. This is someone who has their roots in on what they believe as a religious studies professor at a major university in the United States. And what she claimed after that, to your point, and exactly what she said, she said she was, she believed all of it and said, this doesn't have to disprove things, it's just a misinterpretation of miracles. It does not have to mean God doesn't exist. You're taking one thing and you're blowing it all the way over there. You know, she was saying that, you know, there were reports of orbs flying into nuns, like I guess dorms, or you know what I mean, like they're housing, you know, whatever. And then also flying houses in the sky. Exactly. And, you know, plasma orbs too floating around and they they didn't know what it was. And when you don't know something and it's weird, it's going to frighten you at first and I get that that's just, you know, I just want to interject here just to add to this, that floating temples, floating cities, you know, you could even interpret the phrase kingdom of heaven. These could represent giant spacecraft. That's, you know, what Vimanas in Hindu texts, that's, it's all, it could all be the same thing, but continue. Yeah, no, it's, it doesn't have to, you know, disprove. And that's one thing that I was really fascinated with, is because in our divisive society now where you're either all the way this or you're all the way that, you know, to have somebody in that realm cross over, you know what I mean? And say, hey, maybe, maybe science is right a little bit that it's not a miracle. There is a rational explanation for it. But then on the science side, but they're also rational, you know what I mean? We have no idea. But it puts me both. And that's the thing. That's what metaphysics really is, is that the acknowledgement, like I am totally pro science 100%. I am, I'm a tech guy, but I believe in souls because I think souls make way more sense than not people not having souls. Like, yeah, I'm coming from this at a logical perspective. I think the idea of a soul makes way more, not in a religious capacity, mechanically, it makes more sense to me, you know, I completely agree. It's, it's something that is not an either or, you know, and you can make certain aspects in this in either or, and that's fine, you know what I mean? But those are more surface level things because a lot of this stuff seems to coincide with one another. A couple of days ago on chasing prophecy, I had Dr. Melvin Dobson on, and he is someone who has found simulation data or actual, you know, from Plato to Aristotle, to Nick Bostrom, even in the current time, people have formulated that this is a simulation. Yeah, but they're overall thoughts. Those are all theories. Those are all hypotheses. He's found evidence in the second law of thermodynamics of material shrinking itself to the most optimal form, and then staying there, where evolution, if you were to believe evolution would go the opposite way. So real quick, he has the best way to to put it in. Yeah, well, if he was all over earlier this year, everywhere, Newsweek news nation, IFL science discovery, he was all he's been published. He has 2,500 citations. This guy is known. He's just not from here. He's a Portsmouth UK. And again, if he's listening, thank you so much, because it was after midnight his time, but he wanted to he claimed so much in it that he wanted to be on with everybody. And I can try to get him on this one as well, and elaborate further into it. But anyway, like how computer programs do the best way I can say is you guys ever try to send an email and it says, oh, you put too many pictures, we can't send this email. So you make a you have to put it in a compressed file and then send it. Well, what that is, is you're taking the data and taking the most crucial parts of the data and sending that that way when it opens up. Or like if you vacuum out a vacuum seal bag, and you open it up and air gets in and it blows right back up to the original size, that's essentially what's doing on the universal scale level, which would theorize that the universe is working as a supercomputer, which would theorize that these are programs within a supercomputer. And when he brought that data out, and I read his book and I'll give him a plug for his book right here, you know, reality reloaded, that you can't find America, I'd ask him to send it to me from England, which again, conspiracy, but so anyway, this, when he was talking about that, and I'll make the connection here, when he was talking about all of that, he, 2500 citations, a professor at Portsmouth, UK, somebody in the, you know, English Cambridge school, you know, cycle, you know, very smart man, who said, look, as scientists, we have to follow the evidence. And with this evidence suggesting that, it's suggesting in not the evolution method, but a creationist method, that the Big Bang essentially was somebody turning on that computer, and that the speed of light is the max processing speed of this. And I blew my mind when he said that, that this guy is like, well, you know, if this, you know, we're following this out, the evidence is there, and it's published, it's proven, it's all that stuff. He's like, now it's just up to everyone to take it, and whether believe me or not, but the science is telling me, you know, whether you want to call it God or not, it's some sort of somebody started this big computer. Yeah. And what's, what's really fascinating about that is once they got the James Webb telescope up there, they started to have to rework fundamental models about how the universe works. The Big Bang theory, so I don't, I'm not, I don't really, I'm neutral on creationism, but I do believe in determinism, which is a little different. 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But that's funny. He said that too. He said the belief in the Big Bang version happened and started this is just as fanatical as the relation of the old religious idea. So he's wrong both ends. He's like, both ends are wrong. No wonder people are having fight in each other on the other one because neither one of them are right. And they're just having a very learned man talk about that. It's just phenomenal. And I was honored. I mean, you never meet that many people who are published that many times. And not only that, but our genuine person and not ego driven and things like that too. You know what I mean? Just meet a good dude. Yeah. All right. So, wonderful topic there. In our final segment, our final 10 minutes, we will talk about our insectoids. So I'm going to add another video here, Mark for you. And this was captured on a hill in Brazil, rural Brazil. Oh, Oh, I did. I think I see I've seen this before. Yeah. This was man looking upright humanoid, because you got to think to yourself, how big are those plants? How big are those bushes that stand in next to? It looks like it's really far away. That thing's got to be like seven or eight feet tall. Yeah. So they claimed it was 10 foot tall. There you go. Something like that. They claimed it was 10 foot tall. They had somebody with, you know, they did their due diligence. They had somebody out there with a ruler and went back from the same, you know, tape measure, I should say, and stood there at my height and put it on my head. And you know, so anyway, that was in rural Brazil. Yeah. The insectoids really come down to one race and it's the mantets or the praying mantets humanoid, you know, creature, hybrid, whatever you want to call it. One thing I wanted to say too, is that the majority of these sightings, and I don't know if you've noticed this either, Mark, but they come from South America. And they're really, you don't hear too many in the United States, you don't hear too many in any other, you know, society, it's solely down there. I don't know why, but there has been an infatuation with Incas, Mayans, and insects, and especially with their drawings, you know. Yeah, so the Smithsonian had an article a few years ago that they found down in Chile, and it was this man-tid-looking creature. So please Google Smithsonian, half man, half praying man, and you can see the pictures there down there. Yeah. Have you ever seen the movie Starship Troopers? Oh, yes. I've seen these Star Trek Troopers. So what I want to stress to everybody is when they talk about it. And I'd play hell divers too. That is. Yeah, there's a lot of things in there. There wasn't many actually mantises. It was more of like the beetles and bugs and shit. Yeah. But where did they blow up on Earth to start that war? Buenos Aires. Oh, yeah. Somebody did a little homework there about where they would attack if they did attack somewhere. Yeah. I'd say yeah. So I'm going to read a little bit out of the section of Craig Campobasso, extraterrestrial species almanac. Wonderful book. Please go out and get it. I'm going to read a little bit about their characteristics. So in terms of origin, it is believed by Frank that they exist in the Andromeda and Orion constellations, possibly others, but that's beyond our scientific reach as of now. In terms of physical characteristics, seven to 10 feet tall, however, they are fluent in astral projection and in the astral plane, they can be as large as a football field. So really, really big. Let's see. They stand upright, slim triangular or reverse triangular faces, slanted black eyes, sharp pointed beak, three pronged hands and exoskeleton and longer necks that are able to move in multiple directions. Mantis is, they say have emotion, but you need to be have telepathy to understand it because they're they don't show emotion. They have emotion, they don't show emotion physically. Their cosmic agenda is they're part of the egalitarian alignment and participate in the Melchizedek star seed program. So some of you who believe in star seeds, you could be or have previously been a mantis. Huge mother ships, fleet ships and powered by super biological computers. So you integrate with the machine, a little bit like the consciousness part that we've talked about previously. The Independence Day aliens were similar to Mantis. They weren't 100% based on them. No, no, but in in terms of, in terms of, it's a very similar idea, though, it is a very similar idea. In that movie, I wish you got more of the why. You had that little scene where it took over Bill Pullman, but yeah, it's literally the reason for like it's, it's, they described it in the movie as a biological suit that, yeah, the smaller organism inhabits, you know, and that would make sense. I don't think a biological creature in space would be gigantic. I think, well, yeah, no, they're talking about astro projection. See, that's different. That's not even a physical world. Yeah, and see, that's the thing with mantis specifically, from everything that I know about mantis is that they mostly interact in dream states. They're normally the ones that are running the show. They're in the background. They might, they might be watching. They might be in a corner, just what they might have a wand, but they're directing grays. Sometimes you can, sometimes you can telepathically communicate to them, but a lot of times they don't want you to look at them. And just, they just have the grays going on. And yeah, it's fascinating because the ones down in South America, I think they're completely unrelated to the astro projection ones. The ones down in South America, I think those are green goblin guys. I think those are, there's something weird going on in South America. Now, they could also be insectoid type aliens, but I don't think they're the mantids that are like, you know, do, I don't think they're the high level mantis, you know, running the show. I think what's happening down in South America, that might be a totally different foot soldier mantis or something. Yeah, yeah, no, I completely agree. This one aspect actually bring is a call back to what we were talking about earlier. So we're going to talk about consciousness ability and get into a little bit of what you said. Mantid beings are fully conscious and sovereign. Besides being telepathic, they have a hive mind by choice, yet also a singular mind. They can enter species, they can enter their species hive mind and exit at free will. While in the hive mind, they can converse with other share experiences, expand technologies, teachings, and think of it like a mind internet sounds like their mind. That's what I was going to say. It's like an internet, but they don't leave. Their mind is extremely powerful and the most powerful of their characteristics is their mind, which you wouldn't expect being an insect. Mantis, look, mantis beings look like, look at the universe as a symphony and all of the players need to be playing their instruments. They regard themselves as frequency aligners and assuring all the instruments are tuned. They can hear and sense discord and sectors of the universe and send their frequencies to those areas for realignment and healing. They love to astral travel, visiting universal temples of learning in every dimension. When a group of mantids are ready to transition from the six to the seventh, the six D beings astral travel to the seven D learning centers and prepare themselves for the next transition of their conscious development. Some of the highest frequency mantis beings speak the light essence language. Mantis exists from the sixth to the twelfth dimensions and they are able to step down their energy to appear in three, four and five as well. They use crystals, which assist them from transitioning to one dimension to another because mantis beings are one of the most ancient and highly evolved races. They work in realms and dimensions and dimensions that humans cannot possibly understand. So that little snippet on the mantids, I think, so I think they let me put it this way. All this being real, they probably evolved not to show motion and to only show motion telepathically because I think they are the ones who are coming here to learn more about us because we are so frequently violent that our frequency is so out of tune that they need to figure out what's going on. However, I do feel that they're empathetic. I don't feel that they're evil. I don't feel that they're evil. It's never really documented that they do evil things. Normally what happens is people document seeing a mantid while a procedure is happening. Well, it could be a good procedure. They could be getting cancer out of your body or something. You know what I mean? But it seems like they don't, they either have neutral or good intentions. So it seems like I think so too. So before we hop off of here, let me check the text board. Brian in LA, Louisiana, where are Louisiana? One of 7.7 FM in Orleans. Thank you for listening. Where could they be from? Oh, if you missed it, they believe that they were from the Andromeda or Orion constellations. Jimmy, Mississippi, are they harmful? Well, see, that's what I say. If they're there to be facilitators to experiment, I can see why you would think that they're bad. I don't particularly, from what I read, judging by this, I haven't read any story that they've maliciously came to hurt people. We've always heard that they, just like Mark said, are in the background grades or more of this, either a servant class or... They can control them directly. Yeah, or they control them directly, robotic, whatever, drone, whatever you want to call them. So I don't believe that they are harmful. Brian in Pennsylvania, hello, Humstate. Where can I report my UFO? Oh, well, there's many sites. You can go to the National UFO Reporting Center and UFO RC or also be on theradarnews.com. And if you want to talk about it, go to UFOs over PA. We're on meetup.gov. There you go. Oh, yeah, there you go. Excellent. Mark, UFOs over PA. And by all means, even if you're not on a live, go ahead and comment. And one will be there within two weeks. And you can, by all means, hop on. Mattie in Florida. I've seen one of these things in Costa Rica, exclamation point. Well, that certainly would be an area of... Yeah, there's a lot of activity near Costa Rica. Yeah, a lot, not just with them, not just with them, paranormal, different UFOs, orbs, spiritual lights, military installations, guarded by weird people. Yeah. I mean, I have to think with water has always been a source of energy for things we don't understand. You're just going to have more, I think. You're just going to see more. It's just how it's going to go. That's what I think. And especially in Latin America and Central America, you're so skinny, you might as well be an island. You're so skinny, right? That was animalizing stuff, yeah. Yeah, the canal. I mean, they made South America an island by that canal, right? So, put Mattie. No, submit your story. And actually, hey, UFOs over PA, they'll listen to a Mantis story as well, too. So UFOs are on meetup, everybody. So that's going to wrap up. Mark, give a shout out for UFOs over PA and anything else you want to talk about. Yeah, if you want a safe space to tell your paranormal story, whether it's a UFOs or anything, and you live up in the Northeast, I mean, you're free to join if even if you don't live in the Northeast. But our group is called UFOs over PA. We're on meetup.com. Come on in, tell your story. We'll listen to it. I think if you just Google UFOs over PA, meetup, here's the first one to come up. So, built in SEO from meetup. So, great job, meetup for everything there. But yeah, we've been broadcasting live on the United Public Radio Network and the UFO Paranormal Radio Network 1053 on the Gulf Coast in Mississippi and 107.7 FM in New Orleans. We've also been airing live on Roku TV. 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