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[Music] What's going on everyone welcome to the third and former on our new home the Oracle talk radio network. We are back here everywhere to eight and we are live around the world on the Oracle talk radio. What's going on there listen to some iHeart radio audacity tuning live 365 as well as streaming on Facebook, YouTube rumble kick twitch and you can subscribe to the Oracle talk radio network on soundcloud for past shows. Let's grow together on this one. Let's grow together. Let's grow. That's super annoying when people say that. I'm going to say that. Is that your new thing now we get a community we get a community like ours and bring it all together. You got all the weirdos stories you need it all. You do you do. Let's grow together. I like it. There's a lot of things going on right now buddy it's September 11th. It's the holiday that it is. I don't even realize it was until halfway through the day. Well because you're racist in America. I just didn't look at my phone and I didn't like go on Facebook. This might actually be the first year that I remembered it in any kind of real way. We're going to get to that in a minute because we never really do a lot of conspiracy stuff on the show. We never really talked about 9/11. No it's a tough day for a lot of people. I think today we're going to get into it and dive deep. Probably do bad things and say stuff that we shouldn't say. Also James Earl Jones died. Age 93 died. That's crazy. He lived a long life. My man was in everything bro. He's our wars coming to America Lion King bunch of movies I never heard of. Welcome home Grasco Jenkins. Do you ever see that show with Martin Lawrence that movie? It's so funny. Sounds very familiar but what did that come out in early 2000s or 90s. Wait wait wait okay yeah. Jack in the beanstalk. I don't even know who's in. I don't know who's in the beanstalk. I don't know who's in the beanstalk. I don't know who's in the beanstalk. I don't know who's in the beanstalk. I don't know who's in the beanstalk. I don't know who's in the beanstalk. I don't know who's in the beanstalk. I don't know who's in the beanstalk. I don't know who's in the beanstalk. I don't know who's in the beanstalk. I don't know who's in the beanstalk. Was he the dog owner? I think he was. Yes, I think he was. He was the dog owner in that one. Yes. It's like trying to pick him out in a cameo. I know. Three fugitives. Oh I remember that movie. That was your movie. It was great. He was in it. He was in barbarian. I mean he was in so much. Obviously he's best known for like Star Wars and Lion King. Lion King I think was the main one that everyone like. Well I guess Star Wars is a huge one but like you never saw his face. And the actor that actually played Darth Vader was not him. It was another actor. He just did the voice over. Yeah he just did the voice over. The voice. Yeah. Imagine being that actor. I forgot his name. I can't think of that. He got paid $7,000 for the first Star Wars that he did. Oh do you have no drugs? Yeah. Just for the voice over. Imagine the guy that is going to be Darth Vader and he's like yeah just don't talk. Just do the movements. Yeah yeah basically. The voice over. That would just be upsetting and he didn't even know that was happening. I know. And for him to like get just I mean. Sideline like that. After strange love. Man he was in everything. But I gotta say his roles and for Darth Vader. He's always good in everything that you see him in. I wouldn't say he's underrated because he's a very popular actor. But he acts at a point to where like you know it's him and you know he's in a movie but he doesn't overtake everything. You know and he just he just contributes you know. I was watching him earlier today. I saw some of his acting and when it was just on the stage in front of an auditorium auditorium and it was like good. Like you can tell he can really act. Yeah I think you did a lot of stage acting too. Like maybe a long time ago. But from what I saw I was like. I was looking up some of the Star Wars memorabilia like that go to auction. The original screen used helmet Darth Vader helmet sold for a million dollars. I was guessing more. Yeah I mean like yeah I don't know. Depends on what properties and what it is. Well the suit if you can if you can get the whole suit because obviously there were several screen things. But if you can get the whole suit it was like two or three million. But imagine having that. How is that not in your ultimate collection? I'm just wondering like does does. Is it Steven Spillard. Right? Is Steven Spillard. That's direct to that. I can't think of the Star Wars. Yeah Lucas George Lucas I don't know I'm thinking Spillard. George Lucas he has to have a collection of just. All of those props you know what I mean. If I was the one to create that. Oh I'm sure he does. Don't you think he probably has like a warehouse of just every one of them. I mean I would. But I mean. You got to know like. I gotta imagine they thought Star Wars is going to be a big hit. Even if like obviously you know at the time you never know what's going to be a big hit. But yeah I mean look what it's turned into. It's a the biggest movie franchise of all time. I mean I don't think it's a bigger one you can even. Has anyone if they're listening to if you can always tune into us. Ian's got that phone number I believe. I do. I don't know where it is. Oh fuck I hear. But I should have it off hand I don't and it's my fault. But it's it's nine four one seven seven seven four five seven nine. You can actually call into the show and talk about whatever you want to talk about. Or Texas even hate mail is. I love it. Love to laugh at people. So. The best or email so if you want to send me emails at the Nerden formers at gmail.com. We can mock those on the air so. He'll cry at night or he'll forward it to me and we'll both cry. So please. But but on the air it's going to be funny. Yeah it'll be a little bit. Everything we do. But talking about the Star Wars and like the storyline of it. If anyone's ever watched I mean I'm a huge dune fan. And I'm going to be at one of those where I'm pretty sure that George Lucas stole a lot of that story line from dune and put it in Star Wars. I've heard that. It's sure that. It's using Muhammad Ali. Oh yeah. He was. Yeah he'll go down this one of the greatest actors. There's never been anything ill about the guy as in there's never been anything bad. He was even in Big Bang Theory which was really funny when Sheldon met him. Yeah yeah yeah. Oh yeah. He said the restaurant like a robot or whatever. Yep. That's one of the best shows ever created. Yes. Anyone says I can watch that show over and over again and it would never get boring. I do. I watch it every night when I come on to sleep. I put it on. Yeah it's the greatest show. Yeah. If you're nerdy in any way like it's the quintessential nerdy show. And such a comedy because anyone will laugh at like what happens in the show. It doesn't matter who's watching it. You'll get a really good laugh every time. Yeah. Oh for sure. But yeah it was that shows always great. It really sucks that we're not going to see him. And there's a new Lion King coming out there doing a net. Well I don't know if he's going to be in it. It's going to be when it was an earlier time. Yeah yeah. It's a bit possible. It was young yeah. To see the new going to react to that one. I can't wait to see the new Transformers when the young. Yeah day one. That's going to be cool. They have like Chris Hemsworth is in that for sure I think. Yeah yeah. A couple big name actors. But that's going to be cool. I do like how the cartoon looks compared to like the original that I use. I grew up on what put it in VHS. That one was always been one of my favorites. But to see how they did this one I do like it a lot. I just really hope it's not the same director as the last Transformers movie. Agreed. That was terrible. I almost walked out within 40 minutes of that movie. I'm like I still haven't finished it. And it's on TV now or you know I'm streaming now. I can watch it. The crazy part of the Transformers is that the beginning was so promising with the, with the like just the villain. Yes. How he walks through the force. How it has that feeling like oh this is going to be badass. I can't even tell you what was wrong with it. It was just not good. It was headed into a direction that it shouldn't have gone. I tried. I watched. Yeah. Not that much of it. But like people were leaving in the theaters. Like it wasn't a great. It wasn't a great effort, man. I just wish they wouldn't have different route with it because it could have been really good. It felt like they wasted the Dinobots. I don't know. I just thought it was a lot of problems. Yeah. A lot of problems in it. I agree. Other than that, but I mean. The new one that we do. The Transformers. Yeah. We're going to go see that one. It's the young Transformers too, so it's like as we're growing up and it was funny because of robots. Don't know how to use former. That's a whole weird premise also just knowing that they're young robots. Like and they grow like how the robots grow. You know what I mean? Like it's just a weird premise. You got to kind of. It's just basically a rust. It's a space. If they have been reality, but yeah. It's just funny. It's like they're a timer on them. Yeah. There shouldn't be, but. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I think it's going to be all spark. If the all spark can bring them back. Yeah. Does that make them day one again? But they grow to a bigger. You know, they grow into. Yeah. It grows into an octopus prime. Like how do you, you know. I mean, how do you grow as a robot? I already know that that movie is going to be way better than the last Transformers movie. So I'm going to see it. I agree. Agreed for sure. I think even maybe Chris Pratt's in that one too. There's a bunch of people in that one. It might be good. I walk out with the credits. I'm not doing this. It hadn't even started yet. No, I'm not. I'm not one of those though. I like, I like do like to try to give a movie a try. The only movie that I have to say is the worst movie I've ever seen is Long Lakes. The new movie, and I was so upset that everyone said it was one of the best movies, cult movies. It was hard. I keep hearing about it. I didn't even see the track. I couldn't even tell. I couldn't pick it out of a line, bro. I've never seen a trailer. It was so disappointing. I've literally never seen anything about it. I get it. Any younger age that they just liked that, but it was like, it was. I don't even know what it's about. It's cult, like it's cult movie like in a way. What do you mean when you say like, like they're in a cult, like it's like a cult feeling. Oh, they're okay. They're in a cult. Yeah. Not like a cult following to a movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like they did it so wrong. And I, there were some really good spots in that movie. Where it's like, okay, this is actually done really well. Right. 90% of it was shit, like not trying to shit on the movie, but I was really hard. I finished the whole movie. It was really hard to get through it. Sorry. Just one of those. I mean, we watch movies for a living. That's what we do. So it's like. I mean. Better or worse than old boy. Worse for sure. I'll watch old boy all over again. If anyone has to see old boy, give that movie a whip. Yeah. Oh God. Take that bad boy for a spin. Let me know. Just the fight scenes in that. I ain't doing it. Old boy. It's a great, great movie in a way. Like, but it's like you want to like it, but you have to hate it. The ending will make you question your life. Yeah. And I make you wonder what you've done for the last two hours. Or just say I would still watch that movie today. Because of, I know the ending and it's just like. I told, I told, I forget who I told to watch it. I told somebody to watch it and they were just. Oh, well. They weren't as happy as I was about. I mean, it comes down to the ending where you're just like, no, I want to like this. Yeah. I think I know you to watch it. I'm the one I found at first. I don't remember. I don't remember. No, I think. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But that movie is actually a good movie. Yeah. The ending is like, wow, it's pretty shocking. Yeah. And you're like, man, I really wanted to like that movie, but I want to tell. I don't want to tell anyone. I like that movie. I don't even want to know. It's one of those. Because, you know, that's why I didn't want to go watch old boy. It makes you feel dirty. Yeah. That's exactly. I'm disgusted, but I'm happy. It's one of those. I don't know if that's the proper. I know. I was just joking. It's just happy. You get to see Elizabeth Olsen naked. So, I mean, if there's no other reason. It's like her only movie that she just has done. If there's no other reason to watch it, I will just keep watching that over and over again. And it's so weird to see her in a younger, like a younger role. Like not that young, but like she's probably mid 20s, but compared to like doing Avengers. Yeah. But yeah, she is. Yeah. I mean, that's the reason I have to watch it if you haven't seen it. I don't keep it fast forward to it. The movies. What was an earlier movie? So like they didn't have. It wasn't. It's not as old as you think. Every day when you log in to Chumbah Casino dot com, the ultimate online social casino, you get a free daily bonus. Imagine if you got daily bonuses in other parts of your life. I chose French fries over loaded French fries. I asked Stewart from accounting about his weekend, even though I don't care. 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But I mean, it's it's Thanos and. Yeah. Which the main character in that? I don't know where it's out there. The crazy part is I can't think of his name in real life. Josh Brolin. Oh, is that what it is? He's the main character in that. He's really good. He's really good in like everything too. Yeah. I mean, his movies are always been top notch. I haven't really seen a bad movie of this. But. Well, yeah, there'd be no more Darth Vader. Let's let's say it's upsetting. I didn't think he was that old. Yeah, dude. He's close to a hundred man. Seven years off. He lived in a long way. Not at all. I mean, I haven't seen him in the past couple years. I guess maybe. But. I'm not good to say anything. He'll look at him now. You're like, damn. I'm just showing. What happened? It was like that Kevin Hart when he's like, damn. He figures out how old that guy is in that podcast. It's hilarious. Yeah, it really sucks. But he did live a long life. And I think he did an excellent job at it. All of his roles. Yeah. I'll miss it. Yep. Darth Vader's gone. All right. All right. So moving on. 9/11 conspiracy theory or not. I'm a huge. I'm going to go with huge conspiracy theory on that, dude. There's got to be. There's got to be something. That's a tough one for me. Because I want to believe in our country. I do. You got. But with that situation in 2001. You know what it is. I think that part of me, because I watched the things that I watch. And I watch all these documentaries. Same here. That's the majority. Yeah. We both watch a lot of the same stuff. And we watch these documentaries and we see how the world is behind the scenes. When you hear about, you know, like the K, what's the, like the Nazi, like the hidden Nazi treasures and any kind of things like that that you just don't know about. And then they had these documentaries and you're like, holy shit, like that's nuts. You hear about just any kind of any kind of conspiracy with the government. American conspiracy, American conspiracy, dude. It was like, I was never, I didn't even think of that. But now that I think of that and I've seen like facts, you're like, fuck. Like there's ones on Fort Knox that I've watched or like everything. It's just empty. You know, they got all the gold out of there and. Which is probably true because our government's fucking terrible. But it's gone. Like, I don't think it's, if it's not, it might not be, I think it's gone from there. I think it's somewhere else. Like they say that is one of the most protected areas. Yeah. Oh, for sure. It is probably the most protected building. But it could have been in the White House. Maybe more protected in the White House. I don't know. But all the things that I've watched, you know, and like some of the movies that I've watched, I'm like, it could have happened. You know what I mean? Like if you look at it from a conspiracy theory. Yeah. View. Well, you always have to have those people to question it. If you don't, then we're all following where sheeple at that point. Whatever the truth is, it's not what they tell us. You know what I mean? They'll never die. You know, maybe, maybe the, the terror, it went down the way they think they say, but there's more to it than you'll ever know. My problem is if you look at the, like some of the facts. So let's get it out there that after all of that debris. They found the ID cards of the hijackers. Right. Out of all of that debris, but they didn't find suitcases. They didn't find anything because it was all brand. But they found it in pristine condition. Yeah. That's, yeah. That's one. It's little things like that. No way. That, you know, you're like, uh, the big thing for me and I've thought about this a lot because I realize it's controversial, but yeah, the plane that went down in Pennsylvania in the field. That is obliterated and you can't even do it. There was nothing left of it. And before they reported that car, that plane crashed, they said that they shot a plane down. So which was the Pentagon or was it the one that was heading towards? They didn't know where it was heading, actually. They don't know if it was going towards the White House or what. They believe it was going towards the White House or Congress or whatever. But there was nothing left of that thing. And I listen, if we shot it down, like I get it. You know what I mean? Like there ain't no, you can't feel bad about it, right? Like I understand. If it was what it, if they say, if it was what they say and you shot that plane down, like you had to do it. You know, well, let's just say those people gave their lives for a really good cause. That wouldn't a jeopardize some other, like some other person in a way, but like if you feel really bad. So those people, you know, you look at it from a, you know, I don't know. I don't know. It's if you look at it from a perspective of, listen, people unfortunately were in a situation where they weren't going to make it off that plane. I don't care how it goes down, whether you crash it, whether you blow it up, whether it goes into a building. That's it. You know, whatever, whatever happened on that plane, happened on that plane. So why not just own that? Like I don't, it doesn't, I don't think it makes us look bad to say we had to take that plane down. It wouldn't make you look bad at all. You're looking at it as percentages. Like what is it? Who's it going to save? Are they going to crash into another building that has 10,000 people? And you don't, and they don't know where it was heading. You know what I mean? Unless maybe they did. That does really suck for those people. But they've never told us. So maybe they do actually know where it was heading and that's why they shot it down or whatever. The only problem is, was there no landing gear? Was there no wing? There was nothing more. It was a obliterated dude. Like they got rid of the pictures and videos and stuff pretty quick. You know, they're tough to find, but the videos that they did show, like the local news cast and stuff. Dude, there wasn't anything left. It was just a burn hole. You saw a trail. You know what I mean? You saw the trail. It was like, it's just a bunch of debris. You know, yeah. And you've seen playing videos of playing crashes and stuff like that. You know, there's, there's something left. I mean, there was, there was quarter sized pieces of this plane were left, dude. The only problem is like, how much it takes, if you think about it, like of, let's just say, to burn bone. To burn metal. If it blows up, it's going scattered. It's not going to disintegrate to nothing. So like, that's always been like a, what the hell happened there? They didn't want to, they didn't want to tell anyone. That's always been like, my big question is, I believe they shot it down. I personally believe they shot it down. I'm not mad about it. I get it. Like it makes perfect sense to me why you would shoot that plane down. Yeah. You know, like, and if I was on that plane, I'd say the same thing. Like, listen, I get it. You got to, you know what I mean? Like, you got to do it. Yeah. It wasn't necessarily the heroes that shot it down. It was the heroes that had a point and get blown up. And, and you know, I get the fact that like, you know, let's, let's treat these people like heroes and listen. More power to them. You know what I mean? Like, tell them they took the plane down, tell them they crashed it. You know, the legacy is, is, is one of being a hero. And I, and I got no issue with that. Yeah. The, the issue is, I think that we took that plane out of the sky. And I don't think there's any question about it. Like, we annihilated that plane. Whatever hit that plane. It had to, it had to have been like six rockets. Yeah. It couldn't have been just one. And it crashed over a field. Like it was, it all seemed very planned. And on top of that, they announced that they shot down a plane. And then they're like, Oh, no, no, no, sorry, we didn't do that. You know, and, but I asked you on the other side of it. I look, I see, okay, you don't want to be the country that shot down your own people in a plane. Like I get that, I get that aspect of it too. And that's probably, no matter what, if any country would do the same thing. Anytime. I agree with that. I agree with that. I just don't think that they would, they would have been the backlash that they think that would have been. It's unfortunate. Yeah. Yeah. But like, what about the one that hit the Pentagon? Like that one. Yeah, you know, that's another weird one that people, like eyewitnesses are like, that wasn't a plane, do you? See, there was a rocket that hit the building. Yeah. I mean, and you know, it's eyewitness testimony is a hard thing to rely on because it's a very stressful situation. There's a lot of things going on. I don't care who you are or what kind of experience you have. If you're cruising down the road and a plane flies by you and flies into a building, it's going to startle you. You know what I mean? Like it's going to. Yeah. You're going to. The hole that it left in the Pentagon was not a big hole. Like it wasn't that big. It wasn't. It probably was an adequate size hole for the plane. No, not the size of it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Now, I mean, I'm sure that building isn't built like a Walmart, but I'm sure it's a little more sturdy than that. But passing. You're right. It definitely looks way funny. Yeah. And to be able to fly a plane at that low. Altitude. Yeah. That altitude and get it just right. I mean, you got to be 20 feet off the ground. That's it. Yeah. I mean, ultimately, yeah. 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And I mean, and it's a commercial, and it was a commercial airliner. You know what I mean? Like, it wasn't like a Cessna or something. Like, it was a commercial airliner. The wingspan has to be what? Yeah, that punch the hole is going. And I've never seen any of the pictures or videos of the aftermath of it. So like, I don't know if there's any debris left or whatever. I'm sure they found something enough to say, okay, well, maybe it was a plane. I don't know. But it's a... It's always a weird one to talk about, but it's like, you always poke people the wrong way on that one, but it's the same time. It's like, there's a lot of things that are on the answer that, well, the thing is, we were told things when it first happened, and now it never happened. It's the same thing when they talk about, like, hiding alien life or whatever. It's just, I just don't get... The alien life is actually probably a bad example, because I do kind of get why. I've read some things, and I've listened to some people talk about that. Like, why they would hide that? And, you know, the obvious answer is, it's fucking dumb. Like, yeah, we'll scare it all. You know, everybody will get scared and be panicked. Well, another one. I don't think that... Y2K as well. Yeah. I think there will be. I think the real problem is that they have given government contracts to people like Boeing and these other places that do research on them. They were unbidded, they weren't bidded on, which is a problem for government. You have to do, you know, they can't do a no big contract on these things. Yeah. But they did. And so, some of these companies, like aerospace companies and stuff that have gone out of business between the 50s and now, which are probably hundreds, they believe that they could have a lawsuit against the government for basically bias and, you know, not using, not being able to bid on those things. Like, you know, aircraft retrieval and stuff like that. Instead of just giving it... Would it only be an American bid or would it be like the Germans buying it? Or like the Russians buying it? Well, I mean, I think that's why they did it. Maybe. Who knows? But there's antitrust laws in place that you can't do that. Like, you have to have a bit, you know, the government has to bid and take bid, but they didn't. So, they, you know, there's legal scholars that say, like, this could call, that would cost, you know, it could cost trillions of dollars and damages if all these companies that went out. That maybe, you know, think about it, if you had a company back then in the 60s or 70s that was just under brink of bankruptcy and a government contract like that would save you and turn you into a Boeing. You know what I mean? Like, how much money did you lose? You can't even put a number on that. Like, no. Not at all. You know, they have any trillions of dollars. Boeing has probably gone through in its existence. Well, now it's even worse for them, dude. If you're here by pulling out, they're just falling out of the sky now. Yeah. There's a phone. Dude. If I ever go off your plane. Take that. I've drove some shitty cars before, bro. I drove an 81 Honda Civic for like 30 years. The fucking door never fell off. And I know there's people, if you're listening, there's been videos online of these doors just opening or people, they will open them. And, dude. But it's always Boeing that's going down. And it's like, whenever I hear, like, I'm going on a flight, I'm like, is it a Boeing? I'm like, fuck me. They're all Boeing now, dude. Like, pretty much all Boeing now. All you have to hear behind you is, I just found the cure to cancer. Yeah. No. Yeah. Dude. It's just one of those. Where you're like, I got a problem with me. Call the FBI. Take me to jail. I don't care. But it's like, it always happens that way. Like, when I work for Tesla, I didn't even know that all the people, the higher ups, all of them do. It happens that figured out how to make these things, how to do it. Their entire plane crash killed them all. Dude, it's like, it's always important people. It's no one other than that. It's happened multiple times through history where people have invented something and they die. Just like a plane of doctors, dude, that were all like curing cancer. 30 of them are dead. Like, yep. They just died. Come on, dude. It can't be that. And some of them are dead from like three gunshot wounds and shit. In the back of the head and it was ruled a suicide. I'm telling you, man. Dude, they're having it in the park. Yeah. I think it was one of the Hillary Clinton people left. There's a movie about that. But you think about it. Like, these people are curing cancer or coming up with weight. Like, hydrogen was a big thing. Like, if you have a hydrogen car or whatever, like, you're dead. Like, you're just going to go. Yeah. Like, it was like a mysterious death. It wasn't just, uh, he had a heart attack. The last word he said is I'm poisoned and then he croaked. Yeah. And some of the deaths aren't even suicides. Some of them are poisons. Some of them are, you know, ran off a road or whatever. You know, like, it's clearly not suicide. Ryan Seacrest here. When you have a busy schedule, it's important to maximize your downtime. One of the best ways to do that is by going to Chumba Casino.com. Chumba Casino has all your favorite social casino games. Like spin slots, bingo, and solitaire that you can play for free for a chance to redeem some serious prizes. So hop on to Chumba Casino.com now and live the Chumba life. Sponsored by Chumba Casino. No purchase necessary. VGW Group. Void where prohibited by law. 18 plus terms and conditions apply. As a United Explorer card member, you can earn 50,000 bonus miles. 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See, it's one of the ones that is like the biggest thing. I think you would have to do it in a way that, A, you get enough people that know before it goes public, that, you know what I mean? I guess you're the way to do it, I think. And if you released it all at one time, you know what I mean? In the middle of a whole bunch of people, or you just live stream it and they don't know what you're at, you know, and just live streaming on the internet or something, then get a hold of all the major networks and be like, just be here when, you know, at two o'clock on Tuesday. That's true. And like, I don't know, you would have to find a way to protect your bill. I guess I look at Bob Lazars, the same situation as the guy that we talked about in the past podcast a long time ago, where they make you look crazy, so no one will believe you. Yes. That's it. I don't know, well, Bob Lazar, there was a controversy with Bob Lazar with like his, they made him think his wife was cheating on him, or maybe they overheard a phone call or something. Because they were tapping his phone and they figured out that his wife was like cheating on him or something. And, you know, there was a whole thing. So I think that had to do with him getting cut out basically of what he was, of his program or whatever. But yeah, I mean, that's one of the most interesting people that I would like to talk to in real life. That is, I don't know. He really doesn't do interviews. I know he did Joe Rogan. I think that was the only interview that I've ever really seen him do that. And I wonder if he was paid to do that if it was free. Probably free. I'm sure he was sure it was free. Just so weird to come out like that. But I get it. He's like one of the biggest podcasters. Yeah. I mean, if you're going to do it, that's the place to do it, I guess. It's funny because of like, Bob Lazar. Bob Lazar, whatever he was. I've always like, when I look at the Bob Lazar, do you not think of Stephen King? They look like brothers. I'm sorry. I had to bring that up. They do. They look like brothers, dude. Like Stephen King and Bob Lazar look like related. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. Yeah. Brothers. It was just funny. I had to bring that up. Yeah. Some of the older pictures of Bob Lazar were. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Um, I don't really thought about that. I saw a picture of Stephen King the other day. I'm like, dude, that looks like Bob Lazar. I'm like, no shit dude. I'm like, they really resemble each other. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, you're right. With the whole only like, I don't know. The Bob Lazar thing is weird because he just knew so much and they gave him so much access. But it seemed like so much access just because the way he tells the stories and stuff. Yeah, yeah. It was still very compartmentalized. There's a lot of things that he didn't have access to. I like that. He talks about there was a second story and one of the ships and he didn't have access to that. He couldn't go up there. It wasn't his department. Yeah. There's a lot of little like compartmentalized things that happen that, you know, kept you from. And it's the same way like area 51 is supposed to work. You know, like nobody knows what other people are doing. Like you're building A and whatever happened in building A is what you care about. Yeah. Even if building B is, you know, paramount to what you're doing, it don't matter. Like you just don't know what, you know, somebody else handles the transition between one and, you know, A and B. Yeah. And that's how they, that's how you keep secrets, man. Like people talk about a time like, oh, it'd be impossible to keep a secret, you know, that big. And I'm like, I don't think it would. Like people just might not know. It's they won't know. And the thing is they just probably don't want to know because of like, dude, I know more information where I'm having target like on my back. You don't want to know that much, dude. Like I don't think you would want to those people that have those jobs. No, like I don't care what's happening over there. I'm going to do my job. Yeah. I mean, I would be a rat, dude. I'd be everywhere. I'm sorry. You're not going to stop me from seeing one of those fuckers. That's the way I would be. But there's probably MPs and everything around and shoot you. It's just weird that there's even a program for that. That is, is hidden. Like I just wish it wasn't hidden. Be upfront. And the thing is, I don't think people would react the way people think that everyone would react. Well, that was my point. Like I don't think it is as crazy as people would think. I think it's more of the government trying to save their ass now. It might be that or it might just be a race to who can do intergalactic, like, I mean, interstellar travel first. It might just be like the moon. The U.S. wants to get out there first and have the technology to get that distance to be 10 light years away with it. You got to go see that movie. Fuck, I forget the name of it. It just came out with the Chinatown. It's a really good movie, man. And they talk -- I forget the name of it. But it's the one where they faked the moon landing or whatever. And like they faked the moon landing. They did a whole set and built a whole set and everything. It looks like people. Yeah. And they say they never, you know, used it, but who knows. But it's funny because the last scene, like this cat jumps down into the scene. Like everybody in terror because it's not quite on camera. Yeah. But everybody's terrified. Like it's going to move. So it's like a whole thing. And at the end, they don't know what footage you're using. There's like a whole thing going on where they disabled the camera, but then they were supposed to fix the camera. But they don't know if they really got it fixed at the time. Blimey to the moon. That's what it was. I was looking it up. It's a great movie, man. Like -- Do you see it? That's all. Yeah, it's great. Oh, fuck, dude. I want to go see that movie. Really good. I know. I'm going to like that just because of like the conspiracy side of me. Oh, there it is. Like 100 percent, dude. It's actually a really, really good movie. And I guess like one of the main things and I want to believe 200 to my core. I want to believe that we did go to the moon. Like I do. Right. Like I still want to, I'll say we did because I want to believe it's so hard that we did. But like, did you see what they were going inside of like their craft to get out of the moon? That was made of like cardboard. Like the door didn't even shut. And like they were, you know what I'm talking about? Like it looks so bad. When you go to the Air and Space Museum in DC and we've been -- Oh, God, man. You're right. Like and none of the things you see, you're like, there's no -- I wouldn't go to Walmart in that motherfucker. I'm certainly not going to the moon on it. I get it because of there is like no atmosphere really on the moon. So like the technology is different now. So like back then you're probably like, okay, yeah, that's acceptable. My question is, how did they get from the moon surface to where they were going when it was built out of cardboard pretty much? You see, it's like very flimsy. You're like, oh my God, dude. They can't even shut the door on that thing. Yeah. It's hard to say because you can't really touch it, but to look at it, you're like, there's no way. Like it doesn't make any sense. I tell you what, even looking at -- they have a real space shuttle, one of the space shuttle that they retired. Even looking at that, you're like, it's super cool. And you look at like the -- you hear a lot about the tiles that they put in the heat. And you can really see those things when you're up low. And you look at it and you're like, it's not really well done. You know what I mean? Like it looks like a three-year-old pasted it on with like, you know, like the government and it's just got to work. Like it ain't got to be pretty. It's just got to work, dude. I did realize that those were tiles underneath the space shuttle. Yeah, yeah, no, it's all tile. They were all heat resistant tiles. That's what happened to the Challenger, one of the tiles cracked or opened up and it burned up. I didn't have a full understanding of that until I actually went with you to the Space Museum. And I saw them like, oh my God, like to be around this thing is like monumental, dude. It's so massive. You're like, dude. It's very big, yeah. You could fit a hundred people in just one of those engine thrusters, dude. Like it's massive. You're like, oh my God, I did not realize how big this thing is. Because when you see it on TV, you're like, oh, it looks like an airplane. No, things like six airplanes and it's more than that. It's just massive. And I didn't even notice until we were there, I'm like, what are those tiles? And like you explained it to me, like, oh my God, I never knew that. Yeah, it's the heat resistant tiles, man. And it's wild. I mean, they're cool looking, but yeah, I don't know. It doesn't look like something I'd be like, yeah, I'm cool. Let's go. You know what I mean? Even that part, like, it's just how they got from the moon to there. It's like, there's no way. Like, I don't think they could have projected to that. Like, I'll crappy that thing was made or on video to make it up outside of the moon. And then back back. Then they talk about like, you know, the shoe prints different and then like, there's no tire tracks from the, the rover that they had. I did a whole explanation for it, which I don't really understand. I really haven't looked into it too deep. So I did see a podcast with Neil Ross Tyson explaining that they got the best satellites to go around by the moon or take video and pictures. And it still shows that there's the tire tracks and it's everything. Right. Very detailed. Well, today's satellites can, but the one, you know, the stuff we had back then, the cameras are garbage and compared to today's, you know, standards. Right. Obviously. Yeah. But like, we need to go back. Um, prove it to us. I mean, we have the technology at this point. Like, I don't want to go, dude. They don't know. The whole point of them going to the moon was they needed to be first. And it was a. What they see. Triadic thing. And they needed to be first. And that was why they did. Exactly. And I think that's why they hide certain things at area 51. Yeah. They want to be first to create something. You couldn't have Russia beat us to the moon. You couldn't have the, you know, you couldn't have the Chinese beat us to the moon. You, it would be a bad look. Like we're America, right? We're supposed to, we got this. We do everything first and, you know, I get a deaf point, but at one point, you need to be like, we need to work together to get this. Um, I mean, that's cool. I think I would look at it, you know, like, put your differences. Think of what we could do collectively. Like there's a lot of smart people in China, bro. Like a lot of smart people that Japan and Russia. Yeah. You know, Japan and, you know, there's Russian, these fucking Russians are doing all kinds of crazy shit in labs, probably most of it unethical. But they're still smart enough to do this crazy shit. Yeah. You know, and like the German, the German scientists and stuff, you know, you look at like World War II. These guys were doing all kinds of crazy shit. Well, the first off, let's just say we brought everyone from Germany to our side to create. Yeah, no, we still, yeah, we still a lot of people. So, but it just shows that we need other people, other minds that are creative and fucking just on signs of the day. Yeah. And, you know, the smartest people on the planet. If you brought all those people together, I think about what you could do. I think it will come to a point where. When the earth is inhabitable or they're like, we need to find another planet. A planet that's like suitable. Yeah. If there was an extra existential threat, you know, they might come together. But like if there was an alien attack or something, I'm sure we'd probably come together. But who knows, man, like we're dumb. Like we're just dumb as a, as a people, you know, just everybody. Like, you know, greed takes over. And he goes, he goes, you know, egos are huge. Like, we're just not, we're not that smart when it comes to doing certain things. You know, we can build crazy shit. We can come up with crazy shit and, you know, ideas and stuff. But when it comes to a bigger picture, good for mankind, you know, maybe they don't, that's not what they want. You know what I mean? Maybe the new world order or one world order is a real deal and one world government. Yeah, the one world government. And, you know, they have their ideas of what they want and we're not it. No, I think like the only one really looking towards like space exploration and like getting out there and doing better is I would say Elon Musk on that one. Yeah. Really looking outside of the box, not, he's not thinking about his life. You think about generations in front of us. They're like, Hey, let's set them up. So they have an idea of what to do as an where to leave off. I should say. Right. Yeah, yeah. Hand the baton. But I don't, I mean, yeah, I mean, Elon Musk is probably the only one really doing it. Jeff Bezos a little bit, but I think he's more on the ego side. A little bit of the ego side and more on the commercial side. Like I want to take people to space and, you know, well, those tickets were what? $30 million. Yeah. I mean, there were some dumbass, you know, a bunch of dumbass billionaires or whatever. And we said it on a submarine. There's a nobility in it instead of that. I didn't mean that. I'm just. You see, we already did 9/11 and, you know, I'm just sorry if you saw that. You can't be anywhere nice with you going in that thing. No, I'm getting that fucking thing with a suit on armor and a fucking scuba tank. No, dude. Fuck out of here. I mean, that's another story, but we got to bring that one up eventually. I'm sorry. Yeah. The fact that the news used that as a, they have 24 hours to live. Yeah. It's like that. Fuck you. And they knew in five seconds what happened because they even said they found the, they heard the pain from underwater microphones of the M and explosion. They were head in that the Americans didn't want to say they already knew it happened from an implosion. Like, oh, sorry, off topic, but like we'll bring that one up. Yeah. What's the point of lying about that? Like, what do you think? Do you want to come back to life? You're going to find them now? What's the, what cover story you're going to come with? You don't know. You know what I mean? Like we have a lot of talk about people. Just let you guys know on our podcast, we talk about the most random things and it's very enjoyable. And we really don't know how we get there. We just, sometimes we just end up there. I think we just have to be called the ADHD radio because we will go off of the subject and it's just like, I'll say one word. I don't even know how we got on the moon. Every day when you log into Chumbagocasino.com, the ultimate online social casino, you get a free daily bonus. Imagine if you got daily bonuses in other parts of your life. I chose French fries over loaded French fries. I asked Stewart from accounting about his weekend, even though I don't care. 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And you know, you know, you know, you know, interesting conspiracy guys. I'm just saying. It's spelled. He might be an alien. I think he was a weird guy. I think those guys are all weird. Weird. I don't know. It's, you know, let's say you were one of the only guys ever walked on a moon. Right. And you were, and they always talked about, you know, being, being bullshit. Like there's interviews all over the place of, I think it's Buzz Aldrin was always talking about like, Oh, yeah, you know, you believe that? You know, type of shit. And I'm like, this motherfucker. Well, he did say it in a couple, like a couple of them do. Yeah, we didn't go. Yeah. That's exactly what he said. Like multiple, and I don't know if the guy's just fucking nuts or what, but who knows. But yeah, he's said it multiple times. Like, I don't know what you guys are fucking talking about. Like this never happened. You guys are insane. And yeah, I, I, I will still believe it's real that we went there. Like I want to believe it, but like there's so many questions out there from the people that went there. They're like, did you go? Did you go? Yeah. Did you show you went? I mean, we'd go the flatter throughout. Well, NASA's, you know, not a space agency, but not going that route because I don't believe in flat earth. It's just funny when I hear David waste. We got 12 minutes left. You're gonna get me started on a day in the flat earth. You know, God damn well, what happened when I started talking about flat earth. Ian is a flat earther to them. I am not a flat earther. He believes in that, like the. I feel like it. The flat earth was one of the sole reasons that I ever decided to like, hey, let's do a podcast. And the one thing that I want out of a podcast is to talk to a flat earther. Literally was like one of the sole reason that I said, you know, three years ago. Hey, I got an idea. Hear me out. And Tyler's done enough to go. That's a great idea. Let's do it. Yeah. Dude, I got called out so many times from David Weiss that it was unsettling talking to him because he will not let you say anything, dude. Anything resulting a globe or a round. Dude, he'll just try to chew you apart. So that was the weird part. Like I watched a bunch of his interviews before we interviewed him. Yeah. And he seemed, I don't know, rational enough to have a conversation with and like ask questions and, you know, get like his perspective on it. Like I wasn't trying to shit on the guy. I really wanted to get. I wouldn't either. I really wanted to get like his perspective and why how you're there, why you're there. You know, how'd you get there? You know, what led you to believe this? And he says himself, like he never believed it up until, you know, a certain point. A certain point. And then he talked to some lady and she like changed his mind or whatever. But that's neither here nor there. But to talk to the man. Now it's like Jesus. I don't know if he's just done so many interviews where he's just got it down to a science. He's got to be able to shut people down so no one else listens. You almost can't even get a word in edgewise, I think, at this point, you know, unless you really. You don't mind if I'm wrong and I don't really challenge you wrong. Yeah. And I wasn't really looking to challenge him. I just wanted to get his perspective. Like I don't want to get in a fight with the guy. I just wanted to like understand why, bro. And then more of the glasses upset me, which is going to be the greatest thing that ever happened to us on a podcast, probably for as long as we live. Cause that was amazing. The way he did it, because he wanted to, he wanted to get reaction from the people on his side just to be like, yeah, you showed them. Yeah. Exactly. That's exactly what it was. You did it. I brought up a legitimate point on what, like a question I had, and he's like, cool story, bro. And then put on like these fake glasses and like, yeah, you wouldn't answer it. He'd only answer with making fun of you. Yes. And sort of like, I don't care if I'm made fun of. Like I don't have that ego part of me where I want. Right. I want to make sure each other all time. Yeah. Like that is gone. Like I just like, I would rather just get why certain situations you believe that instead of against ours and, uh, well mine, cause you're a flat earther, but you know what? Um, I mean, I saw you stroll in the app the other day that he has. I'm like, I mean, that I did buy out for you. But I tell you what, for a bunch of bullshit, he's got this app now around you. Well, I bought it like it's got the, the, the calendar calendar on it and shit and like how eclipses work and like the effort that he put into making this deal was, uh, it was fantastic. I mean, it was, I really was, it was really nice and it's like a very good, obviously heating created. He had to have some to do it. Well, yeah, for sure. But, but like the effort they put into was like, they blew me away and like after that podcast, I just went on like people that got thousands of dollars to prove that the flat earther is real. And then they prove themselves wrong. Yes. That light, not 16 feet up. No, it is. You can't see it. You know what I mean? But I tell you, he's, he's, he's very convincing, like he's, he's very intelligent the way he speaks about it. Not that what he's saying is intelligent, but he's presented in a very intelligent way. Yeah. And the thing is he is very good at wording is might have been over years of just learning how to speak. Yeah. Like he's a smart dude. He's just a lunatic, I think. I don't know if that's the right word, but it probably is like the guy. Lunatic that he's obsessed with something that he thinks is real. And I really believed, I really wondered to this day if he really believes, well, in the 19th time, 19, I mean, he's going back way back then. But like in the, in the, in the biology of biology books and stuff, they did teach that it was flat. Well, like 1900s, maybe like it was early. No, it was later than that, like 1940s, 17, 1920s, like they, it was in there, they did teach at in school. Like they were just flat and, you know, like, I think my, I think my grandmother probably actually saw, you know, a textbook that said, like the earth was flat or whatever. I would love to buy one of those just to have it in my collection of books. I would have like just to have it, like, uh, I would have to figure out what it, what it was. And like you could probably find it. If it wasn't burned because they were wrong. I don't understand. My problem with the flat earth is that I don't understand why. Like why, why is it a secret? Because his grandpa told him that it was real. No, I mean, like, why would the government lie about it? Like why would, why would it have to be a secret? You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I mean, it would make no difference. Like if you woke up tomorrow and the government said, ah, I got you, bitch, you're, it's the earth flat. Like the ones that you still have to go to work tomorrow, you still have to do the things that you do. The matter bills. That's what I'm saying. You're not going anywhere. You know what I mean? Like, you're not fucked this. I'm out. You know what I mean? Like you're the one thing I love is like, well, there's a nice wall in front of us. We can't go any further. No, just hop that out of this wall. That's about 60 feet. You're, you'll go into the other side. Yeah. Grandma. I've seen game of thrones. You can get over that, bitch. Thank you. The night's watch over there. You see what I did there? I had a game of thrones. Yeah. Yeah. Night's watch, dude. I mean, you can't be. Night's watch, bro. You can climb over that wall. Fuck that. Is that an elevator? Maybe that's where they got it from. I wonder if a flat earth or if I can. It could. Came up with that. The game of thrones. The edge of the world. Like, yeah. And everything on the outside is, you know, unexplored, untested territory that the white walkers. Fuck. Yeah. They're real. There really is an ice wall around the, around the world. I'm just selling it, dude. It's like, eventually the ice is going to melt. But he has an answer for absolutely every question, every problem that you have with it. Whether or not the answer is right or makes sense. He has an answer. Like, there is an answer. And if you come back with a rebuttal, he'll just try to make you look at an idiot. He has another answer and then puts him down to make fun of you. And it's like, which I appreciate, actually, me too. But it's like, uh, you know, you know, especially when did it, especially when did to you. That kind of made it was but her. I was but her. You were actually a little but her. I just went back as soon as I got off, I'm like, you know, I'm going to watch how they prove flatter. There's proved that the world is round. You were like, Oh, that one. You went on a rampage. And then I sent him six videos. He's not going to get the last laugh, trust me, I will because it doesn't affect me if he believes it or not. And block. Yeah. I never heard from him again, actually. That's weird. But still, he's just like a person that believes what he believes. I have nothing against him. I would still go on another podcast with him. I would actually like to have him back on. He was a, it was an entertaining podcast. Well, we totally believe you. He comes on and we have we have this picture up behind us. I just have a world of a globe. He's our God. Yeah. Tattoo, just on purpose. He's like, he's like a God to us now. I mean, I do want to go to one of those conventions and be like, what do you fucking people think? Dude, there's so many different conventions that I want to go to a Bigfoot convention. I want to go just to hear adventures. I've gotten more and more like in the Bigfoot and like groups on a faith book and stuff. And there's so many Bigfoot conventions that you can go to, bro. Most of them are like West Virginia. I would have to be like Tennessee or something like something like I want to go so bad, bro. Just can't imagine what they're like thinking the people that are going to be there. And like, I'm down, bro. Like I want to do it. I won't judge them because I can't imagine I want people watching you to get better than that. They've got to go on these adventures that I haven't got to do. Yes. So I'm going to totally go on a Bigfoot hunt. You kidding me? The reason why I like these stories is because of just like when we talk about skin walker ranch, it's like a dude, they go to the Native Americans that have the same stories for hundreds of years. Yes, generations. How can you not believe something that I don't know if they were on penalty? They might have been. But they have these hundreds of years that they've seen these things like, and you could talk to the people local, they like, they don't talk about it. And a lot of them won't even talk to you. Well, they get offended because of a dude like, this happened in my family. I'm not going to like, it's not don't make a mockery of it. Yeah, no. I get it like, you know, my grandpa, you know, my grandparents believe or whatever. But the people that watch like go for Bigfoot that are probably an acid. I want it. Let's just say. I'm joking. No, I kind of want to do the acid and go with them. If you want to know true about it, but I'll tell you right now, I would 100% go on an expedition to just to have the adventure to say, we went in search for Bigfoot, maybe something, maybe it's like, it's all about the, you don't know what's out there. You hear this at night, like, right, I would do it just for that to get that, like, I would want that experience, but I have no, I would never knock any of them because of I feel the same way like you don't know, we don't know what's out there in thousands of acres. Just to say, Alaska, Washington, you don't know, like, what about Mel's hole? We don't know on certain things what we don't know. No one knows. So it's like a, this go, this go through my head all the time. That's what, that's what I spend my day doing. Why don't you anything else? Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's one of those times. We got to wrap it up this week because these shows go too fast. Other things to do. So check us out, we're home, the Oracle talk radio network. That's where you can find us here, YouTube, rumble, kick everywhere else. Thank you. Hang around, check out the beyond the radar podcast. It's coming up next right after us. Tom, super good guy, super smart, tell you all about aliens and everything else that you want to hear. There's some cool shows in this network, man. Yeah. I'd say back to back to back. There's a bunch of, you know, Wednesdays are a great time because they do a lot of alien stuff. We do a lot of alien stuff too, most of the time, but we got a little sidetrack. We did, but I would say, well, yeah, that happens a lot. We do that a lot. So anyway, check us out, we're here every Wednesday night, seven to eight, and we will be for the foreseeable future. So, oh yeah, check us out next week. Thanks for hanging out with us and we will see you guys next time. See you guys. Ryan Seacrest here, when you have a busy schedule, it's important to maximize your downtime. One of the best ways to do that is by going to Chumba Casino dot com. 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