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Whether you're a believer or a skeptic, we cover everything where the unknown becomes the norm. And now, here are your hosts, Jenny, the Casio and Tom Conway. Good evening and welcome to Chasing Prophecy on 107.7 in New Orleans and FM 105.3 in Mississippi. I'm Jenny Nicasio along with my fabulous co-host, Tom Conway. We're broadcasting on a lot. Oh, I felt like Tom will chop. That's like... I know. A lot. A lot. A lot. Platforms, including Roku, sometimes. I'm teasing. That's bad. Why'd you do that? YouTube and Facebook and we weren't doing it on TikTok for a while. I have enough followers, but I just don't know if I want to do it anymore to talk. But we are broadcasting everywhere. And so if you are in the chat, which I won't see anybody in the chat right now, please like it and share it. So, Tom, while we wait for some people to come in, how are you? I'm doing well. You know, we're navigating the weather. You have one end of it. I guess I have the other end of it. Yeah. So, you know, that's always pretty fun. Yeah. No, everything's good over here. We're just chilling on this side of PA. Nothing too crazy going on. Well, that I think... We'll get into it here later, but kind of a lot of paranormal news happened over the last month or so. Yeah. That's what they say. I read all the reports and I don't... It's a lot of paranormal news. So, one thing I wanted to ask you, have you ever seen the documentary "Hellier"? No. No, I don't think I did. Okay. So, it's pretty if you have prime. It's these, like, people who made a documentary about synchronous cities and basically a lot of crazy stuff happened. They get an email. And what it did, it was reminded me of what you were talking about. They got an email from this guy in West Virginia or Appalachia in "Hellier." And he basically wanted these paranormal researchers to come out to his house because he's having all kinds of, like, goblin, cave, creature type UFO. He's not sure what it is that keep harassing him and his property. And they make a documentary and go out and film it. And what they find out there is pretty strange. You know what I mean? Because it starts unraveling and unraveling and unraveling. And I completely forgot about it until you had mentioned about Appalachia and the whispers and the cave system that runs all up and down there. And the missing persons, missing 411 are a part of some of them, not all of them. Hey, Tom, excuse me for a minute. You're picking up a lot of, like, you feel like you're breaking up. Really? Yeah, I don't know. Do you hear that, Nicole? Yeah, I was hearing that, too. It sounds like it might be either a mic thing or, like, a network thing, to be honest. It's like a wire. I didn't know. I just wanted to make sure. It was getting really bad there for a second. Is it better now? Let me see. Better now? We'll deal with it. We'll deal with it. If it gets any better, I'll just knock you off. Yeah. Okay. Is there storms now over there? No, it shouldn't be. Okay. You sound a little bit better now, Tom. Okay. I was fiddling with the. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever you just did to get it moved. Okay. We'll just deal with it. Go ahead. It's still going on. Yeah. It stopped for a second. It's like you fiddled with something and made it come back. You know, that's, that's technology for you. Yeah. Only something. You put a few things in. Yeah. It feels so. It sounds good. It's too cold. Oh, Lordy. No, we can't talk. No, we can't hear you. Why don't you just. Well, you just love off and come back on. So how do you like being an intern? I mean, it's fun. I get to play tech support, apparently. Yeah. Yeah. But what are your hopes? You're a human. I'm going to be. This is my last year, technically fifth year, but. Yeah. Are you getting a master's? No, this is my undergrad. Okay. What do you, what are your hopes and dreams? Um, I have not figured that out yet. I just like audio stuff. So. Okay. Yeah. We, there's always a need for a good producers. Yeah. You might want to check out your local news station. Yeah, definitely. I know, um, I think like ESPN has like headquarters near me. So there's stuff around. Where are you from? I'm, I'm from and I live in Connecticut. Oh, nice Connecticut. Yeah. Go to school. Where do you go? Penn State. Uh, University of Hartford, actually. Okay. Yeah. Nice. That's nice. Connecticut's beautiful. Yeah. There's always a problem here. Yep. Here it comes. Yeah. All right. There you go. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Very good. I turned the mic off when I was fiddling underneath, but all good. Now I just have to get my videos back up, but did you want me to restart about what I was telling you about? Hellier. Yeah. Restart because I was interrupted to because my, called my brother about something. And, you know, I forgot to turn my phone off and I heard him ringing. Okay. Okay. So it's this documentary about this, um, investigative, um, well, it's a couple really, and they have a couple friends with them. And they, they get an email from this guy in West Virginia. And he's talking about the Appalachian mountains and he, his property has an entrance or near his property as a cave entrance, right? And he has like footprints of like three-toed footprints of like goblins and underground like creatures, things like that. Um, so they go there. Um, they meet with local towns, people try to figure out, none of them heard of this guy. And, you know, what they uncovered there is just as strange in a different way than what the actual story that brought them there was. It's a really fascinating one, but it reminded me of how we were talking last week about Appalachia and, you know, whispers and all kinds of things like that. It was really interesting. So it's, it's, it's not a documentary. So it's like 40 minutes for like five episodes, but it's, it's something. It's pretty good. It gets into John Keel. They have our bells. Um, they talk about him a little bit. Um, they talk about lost time because obviously West Virginia, but definitely, um, you know, some free fun to watch. See, you know. Yeah. Yeah. What is it called again? Cause I'm going to watch it. Hell year. Hell. I hear. Hell year. It's on prime. There's two C's and start with the first one because there's a lot of weird stuff that happens when they go down there. I won't spoil it for you. But, you know, the case goes cold. The guy goes MIA, like the day that they go down there. Um, but other people have stories of these little goblin things that live in the cave system. Um, and it reminded me of just like the, the kind of people we would like, we would associate with with, you know, going out hunting stories and things like that of hearing creepy things out in the woods. And, you know, there's a lot of whispers out there. A lot of people could say that the whispers and it's really spooky and there's a lot of tech. Uh, TikTok has a lot of videos on the Appalachians and how it's, uh, people here like children and women. Yeah. Just really strange stuff. Well, the, um, a lot of them talk about like their old hunting cabins or they'll be up on a hunting stand, right? And I've heard at least three different stories of people saying that they see these like rods with wings flying through the woods. Just like month man. Kind of, but you know how they went, like if you have a ring cam or a nest cam or something like that and there's some bug flying through the screen, you'll see like a rounded with wings. That's what they are saying. They see out there that their spirits of the forest that for whatever reason, show themselves. Oh, I was, I forgot. I was watching this show on skin walkers. When they told you what it was, I can't remember. They, they found, wait, they're spirits. Indian spirits. Yes. Is that what you heard? For skin Walker skin Walker. Yeah, skin Walker's for Indian spirits. That are kind of you summon them to wish ill upon somebody else. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. So if you ever feel you don't like anybody. Yeah, that's how I learned it. It could be different, but how I learned it was like shaman were the ones who summoned them to go after another tribe leader another war, something like that over there back in the day. And then that's the difference between that and when to go because they kind of look similar but. It was a Navajo witch. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. But some, some like to lump them together but they're actually different. Did you move into a corner because that looks really good. Let me. Yeah. Your wall. Oh, my wall. Yeah, I'm in a corner. Yeah, it looks good. I like it. Look at how flexible that brick is. It is very flexible. It is. Yeah. It's a real brick. Yeah, it's really great. Remember I just thought I have brick behind me. Yes. A number of strange people. Yeah. Last week. Oh, you know what? That was she wouldn't let up. And she probably is out here now because she's going to probably say something. I mean, in her bio, she said that she was a former. A former defense. Worker. And then in her video, she said, Oh, no, I'm not. I am a medical assistant. I gave her the credit. I said she was a devil. I just. Yeah. Which is more than I. She just went on. Well, I had to, well, I talked to the interns and let them know that not every time is the best and we have to prepare for. We've had some, we've had some doozies and we had a guy on. That was. Something he believed that he could communicate with Bigfoot. And he came on before wave. I should never. We're not supposed to give the stream until like right. You know, right then. Because we've had some problems with people who come in the backstage and they can see us. And I had rollers in my hair and then I had suspenders. And one of my suspenders, which I do all the time. For some reason, I only do one suspender. And so I have one hanging. So I get a phone call. Like right afterwards, the next day from a woman and she said. I'm not going to say who he is because I don't want to embarrass them. But she said. I'll say. Joe. You know, Joe, Joe was on your show last night and he said that you. Blashed him your panties. Oh. I'm like, what? Are you out of your mind? First of all, the guy was like, you look like. Apparently she was my age, but he looked like he was really old. And I just said, oh my God, are you out of your mind? Why would I flash him? I'm like, I'm going to be a little bit of a girl. I'm going to be a little bit of a girl. I'm going to be a little bit of a girl. I'm going to be a little bit of a girl. I'm going to be a little bit of a girl. I'm going to be a little bit of a girl. I'm going to be a little bit of a girl. I'm going to be a little bit of a girl. I'm going to be a little bit of a girl. I'm going to be a little bit of a girl. I'm going to be a little bit of a girl. Sit down. This is just so off topic. But I haven't had the worst luck with men. I mean, I don't know why. Why am I cursed? I should do a podcast on that. One morning, it was like 2 a.m. in the morning. And I get a phone call from this woman. She's like, he touched my boyfriend. I got wet. She's wet. I'm going to be a boyfriend. Well, her, I had met some guy on Tinder, I think it was. And apparently he had a girlfriend. He had a girlfriend. Why do men do that? Why? You got a girlfriend, Greg. I got with her if you want to meet somebody else. As a United Explorer card member, you can earn 50,000 bonus miles. Plus, look forward to extraordinary travel rewards, including a free-checked bag, two times the miles on United Wells. Become an explorer and seek out unforgettable places while enjoying rewards everywhere you travel. 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If I had a boyfriend and I would not lower myself and do that. So, how does this get on paranormal and never know? Okay. Go ahead. Let's start the show right. Okay. Good morning. I'm leaving. Welcome to this week. Paranormal boyfriends. How weird. Excuse me. Well, Ellie, my boyfriend was an alien. I probably should write a book about that. If mine, if I had a girlfriend or wife that was an alien for real. I would love it. I would. I know. I know. You want to talk about clingy. I would be. No, I'm going on your ship. I'm staying up there. I'm not coming. I'm not coming back home to my planet. Seriously, I would, I would love it. I would love it. I would love it. I wish it was something like that. You know, I wish they would just come down and say, Hey, baby, you want to go? I was like, sure. Yeah. Yeah. I've heard of my boyfriend or girlfriend at a different school. Imagine me saying my boyfriend or girlfriend is a different planet. You're going to be looked at so did so odd. It's going to be so odd. Well, what do you think golf point? What do you think? Well, if you're into kind of that stuff, I have a book called from the sky and it is about a woman. A young woman. You've asked her professionally. A true, true professional. So I think we've a bantered long enough. Let's let our intern introduce herself a musician, a musician Jenny. Why don't you want to help them? Yeah. Thank you. Some of it. Do you have it? You want to put it on the air? Go for it. Do you have anything? I'm okay. I like, I'd have to like find it. It's hidden among files right now. You could have put you on the air before you're done. Yeah, before this is over, you've got to put some songs on. Yeah. And you know what? We'll use your songs to play people that are like too weird off. No, definitely. Like I did the last time I put the music going. I did that. I did that so many times in the past and I forgot and I did it. And then whenever I want to get the person off and they will shut up, excuse my language. But I would play some music and I don't think they're doing anything wrong with that. No, it's smart. They do it at the awards ceremonies. Yeah, that's what I do. Put the music on and start playing. And tell them to go goodbye. No, I love our guests. I'm not going to, you know, I love them. But if there is a particular one that just doesn't talk, I do let them know. It's time to take a nice. It's a hard time. Not your time. The score. Yeah. But Nicole, yes, introduce yourself to the audience. You know, this is also it's live on the radio, one of 5.3 golf coast and 107.7. And also this will live forever on Spotify as a part of our podcast. So introduce yourself and then let's kick off these topics. Yes. Hello. I'm Nicole. I'm an intern on chasing prophecy. If you haven't caught that bit. So yeah, I have, I kind of collected a bunch of different news that's been like going on the past couple of weeks. So starting off, this is, this one I thought was really interesting because it kind of bounces off of when Emma was on, was it like two weeks ago. Two or three weeks ago. Yeah, two or three weeks ago and she was going over the conjuring. There's further developments in terms of the conjuring house, like the actual one, which is the real name is the old Arnold estate. And this is in Rhode Island and one of their employees was fired and the owner claimed it was because of accusations from the beyond. Oh my God. The 19th, 19th century owner of the estate, whose name was John Arnold. He came to this, this boss, her name is Jacqueline Nunes, and he told her that her employee Brian Dancero had been stealing money. About $3,000 over the course of two months. And she received this because she's like a medium or a channel. And apparently he came to her and told her the story and then he got fired because of it. And that is the excuse that she like straight up gave him, which he also like didn't believe her on that because he said that he had had positive paranormal experiences in the house. Like there was at one point he was like carrying boxes and a door open for him. So he like he didn't believe her that the spirits were actually telling her that he was stealing also because he claimed that he didn't steal. So, yeah, that was my first question was when you said he, you know, said I've had positive paranormal experiences in the house. I would say, yeah, but did he do it or not? Yeah. I don't think that he's come out as like, yeah, I don't think he would admit to stealing, especially not that amount of money anyway. But, yeah, who knows? Well, it is Connecticut in that will state. Can they just fire for any reason? I think, well, Rhode Island, I believe it is. Is. I believe it is an at will state because, um, Nunez, she, she did say like, Oh, it's at will employment. So he's terminated. Like that's that. Well, yeah, he can't do much about that then but definitely interesting that they went that route. I wonder what his next employer would say if they contacted HR and, you know, hey, well, so yeah, he was like, Oh, because it goes snitched on him for stealing money. So, how do you know the ghost related? Well, that's the question, isn't it? Did yeah, but like, did she even notice? Did she notice that there was money gone or was this just a medium who it came to me and I'm clear audience and I heard that it was. Yeah, yeah. Seriously. So do you know if she noticed there was money gone or not? Not that I saw to be honest, I think she literally just told him like over text was just like, Oh, the ghost told me and never provided any evidence or anything. Like it's one thing if she could pull like security camera footage and be like, he told me he did you did it this time on this day, but I didn't hear about anything like that, like any hard evidence. And he can he take it to court, could take the, you know, goes to court to get his job out. Yeah, slander, libel. You could, if you're going to fire me to the ghost to court. Has anyone done that before? So, actually, here's this funny thing. Back at a place of employment, I talked to a lawyer. You know, we were just before an actual thing. We were just joking back and forth. The way the law is written in America, anybody can sue anybody for anything. It doesn't mean you're going to win, but you can. And he said, he's heard of people suing someone for being taller than him, older than him. He said, I've known people locally who have sued for that. And so if you can sue somebody because they're older than you, I'm pretty sure you can take a ghost to court. I guess you could. Yeah. But I mean, then that begs the question of like, what happens if you win? Like, how do they do it all the time in life insurance lawsuits? I should have gotten this. You're kind of taking a ghost to court. Yeah, but like a ghost doesn't have an insurance like company behind it is my question. Like you're going to like chase down the family members. I mean, maybe if you get the judgment, right? You can do that. Now, if one of my relatives got sued after they died and I had to pay for it, that'd be, that'd be pissed. Yeah. Oh, you can write back to court. The court probably goes to sleep. Well, there's the the conjuring house man that's never short of amusement, is it? Definitely. Yeah, it's kind of scary. What was the haunted house in Connecticut? That's not the conjuring. That, I believe, is the Warren Museum? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, because the Warrens, I believe, were based out of Connecticut. And I know this because I tried to like go to the museum and it was closed at one point. I think it was in like 2020 because I guess like it fell to the sun and then the sun like wasn't keeping up the museum or something. So I don't know if it's changed. Well, if it's the Warrens, I thought she only had a daughter. So you mean, maybe it was a daughter. Maybe I can remember some family member. Yeah, I don't think she had a son unless he was a daughter, right? It was some relative and I guess they weren't doing their due diligence. So I think they have a grandson because I met. Yeah, I met him and he's one of those business entrepreneurs that is coaching, paranormal coaching, like how to be a better investigator. I don't think it's, I don't think her daughter wanted to get into it, but that was maybe the square and something. It could have been the grandson, but you know, I don't blame. If those were my parents, you have to think the generation right below. They might be just done with it. You know, they're sick of it. Yeah, I guess. I don't think, I remember I went on a couple ghosts investigation with Sean and I didn't care for because as a United Explorer card member, you can earn 50,000 bonus miles, plus look forward to extraordinary travel rewards, including a free checked bag, two times the miles on United purchases, and two times the miles on dining and at hotels. Become an explorer and seek out unforgettable places while enjoying rewards everywhere you travel. Cards issued by JP Morgan Chase Bank NA member FDIC, subject to credit approval, offer subject to change, terms apply. Ryan Seacrest here, when you have a busy schedule, it's important to maximize your downtime. One of the best ways to do that is by going to Chumba Casino dot com. Chumba Casino has all your favorite social casino games, like spin slots, bingo, and solitaire that you can play for free for a chance to redeem some serious prizes. So hop on to Chumba Casino dot com now and live the Chumba life. Sponsored by Chumba Casino, no purchase necessary, VGW Group, void where prohibited by law, 18 plus terms and conditions apply. I always felt that I was going to have a ghost piggyback on me and could you imagine they just didn't deal with ghosts, they dealt with demonic presences, you know. Yeah, they don't, they tended to stick towards the dark stuff, not really the residual hauntings or the happy hauntings or hey I have footsteps or nice sounds in my house and all of that but no you're exactly right they went more to the demonic because a lot of times they would write those stories and sell them and make a good amount of money on them. There's a lot of with the warrant, it's almost 50 50 with good and bad things at this point. Did you, did you ever hear the Brownsville demon house in Pittsburgh. No, I haven't what does that have to look it up. We have the guy who owned the house, there was a, there was an exorcism there and there was a demonic presence there. He made it into a bread and breakfast. No, think about it, Brownsville, Brownsville Road demon, look it up. Yeah, okay. And he, he, he made a bed and breakfast out of this and I'm like, who in their right mind would want to go and sleep over. There he was doing it as a wedding venue. It's like, why would you do that to yourself? You know, why would you start your marriage out in a demonic house that had a demon in it. Yeah, oh, it was, oh, so this is actually Catholic vetted exorcism type stuff. Yeah. I actually am a Facebook for a Brown'sville Road. Yes. And it's in Pittsburgh area. And he was on the show and he was talking about it and like, he says, Oh, yeah, we made it into a venue or bed and breakfast and we're doing weddings. I was just like, are you, are you kidding me? Like, I want to know if anybody actually had their wedding there because I'm going to try to contact him. You have to look at that. You know what Instagram would be good Instagram people for weddings always tag their venues. So that would be a good place to look. But for anyone listening, I'll give a quick synopsis of this demon of Brownsville Road in March of 1792, a mother and her three young children were killed by marauding Native Americans in the vicinity of Fort Pitt. During the Northwest Indian War, this was done to discourage continued pioneer settlement in Western Pennsylvania and Ohio. This book maintains that the massacre occurred on the ground where the house was built and that the four individuals are buried in the front yard. The premise for the demonic infestation is that the evil spirit that precipitated the vicious killing of these innocents remained on the grounds and eventually inhabited the house that would be built there. An immigrant laborer was also put a curse on the house while was under construction out of jealousy for its wealthy owner and his beautiful wife. The book additionally states that a local doctor would perform many illegal abortions in the house when its owners were in need of money to maintain their servants and upper class lifestyle. There were no records of firsthand accounts of this illegal activity, but an investigative newspaper article did identify such a doctor did exist. And that the local law supported the claim that he performed many abortions. It is presented that the demonic spirit was primarily focused on hurting and killing young children. In December 1988, Bob and Lisa Cranmer and their four children moved into the house and this began a long string of events that eventually led to it being classified a demonic entity by the Catholic Church and expelled from their house in 2006 by local priests. Well, and you'd want to have your wedding there. Yeah, I don't know. I just think it's bizarre and I was just, I try to keep myself composed when I was doing the interview. Yeah, yeah. But I don't like his son, you had a son. And he was being tortured. Why would you stay in the house after the exorcism? He got divorced. But his son stayed in the house. Why would you do that? A lot of times they get too focused on the exorcism, right? There are too focused on this exorcism or too focused on getting this out. They don't realize that if a demon is around, it has others around with it. And it could very well, you know, trick you into feeling comfort. It's making you feel false things. We all know that that's what it does otherwise nobody would ever get possessed. So I can see why that they just moved their target from one to the other. I just couldn't believe that he would stay in the house. Keep his children in the house. When this was all going on that you wouldn't leave like all the other, you know, houses like conjuring, they left Connecticut, they left. But this guy decided to stay and make it a better. Sometimes, I mean, the evil just changed from hurting the children to greet you to just change form, but it's still there. Yeah, because he wants to make money off of it. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He wants to make money off of it and thinks that I have a piece of local history, but unfortunately history can go both ways. It can be good history or it can be bad history. Yeah, and he's trying to make his bad history profitable. You want to do ghost tours, you want to do haunted event? Evad, I don't care. But if you're trying to trick people into having their wedding, a very happy and elated time. Yeah, I would never do that. I started my new life with my husband in a house that, oh yeah, but it's clean now. We got the demon out. How do you know he's still out there? What are you doing waxing the floor? What do you mean it's out now? It's clean now. It's good. It's clean now. We had the priest come in and do the exorcism. Well, maybe there is a certain demographic that wants to do that. My brother has a venue. I can't say, hey, we did have a ghost investigation there. And there was somebody, Sean said he saw men's boots, but I don't, nothing ever happened. Most of the time goes, and I'll be very honest with everybody listening. I love ghost investigations, paranormal investigations. I love every single one I've been on. I've figured I found different pieces of things that I can't explain. But let's be honest, 90% of the time is just walking around and sweating. That's it. So, you know, I want to be completely honest. You know, you really, you know, if you think it's going to be the TV show, it's not. You know, it's not. So, you live for an EVP. You live for a knock or a sound of when nobody's in another room. You know, you live for that. But no, you know, you're exactly right, Jenny, because, you know, the ones that I've been into, we've done the whole holding, you know, everybody hold hands in a circle, palms and thumbs facing to the left. You know, when you say the, you know, non-attachment, little, it's not even a prayer, but it's kind of like a prayer. You know what I mean? You do all that. And then you get to, you know, then you start and that's supposed to make you repel an attachment and things like that. But you never know. We're not even dealing with science. So, who's to say, you know, energy takes energy likes to match. And if you go in there not feeling well, if you go in there mad or sad, it might try to harmonize with you. Oh, yeah. And next thing, you know, your lights are flickering at home and you don't know why. I know but mine is going to be flicker and soon, because we've got some really bad storms coming through. You can see how dark it is outside. But I don't hear. I'm in the face of, but we have a block windows. It's all dark. It's spooky out there. So, if I go out, you never run out. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we'll kick it. Nicole, what's next? Yeah, so I've got another one. This is the video that I think that you have, Tom. Okay. There was an alien appearance in Las Vegas, where you can supposedly see at least two beings using a cloaking device. And they had like, I believe he was a crime scene investigator like reacting to it. And like explaining what he's saying. So definitely take a look at that. Let's just do that. You make it bigger. You know, I applied the same principles that I would apply to any kind of a homicide investigation, right? Yeah. And you have to look at the totality of the others, and you're going to have the bunkers and be like, well, but the shadow, it could be just that or the other. No, no, no, cannot. And I want to open this up. Everything that we've done. I'm opening it up for peer review. Okay. Anybody out there with a degree in photography, anybody out there who's a qualified expert witness and video analysis like I am, anybody out there with a master's degree or higher education. 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See, I still trust cops. And when they're talking to each other and you hear over the, you know, their mics and everything about how they don't know what's going on and what they see. You know, I saw a blurred video that sort of looks like the cloaking blanket that we have here. I'm sure you guys have seen videos of that one too, where it makes things disappear. It certainly looked just like a different version of that. And, you know, I really do think that those people and their property next to their tractors had an eight to 10 foot tall alien. So, Nicole, what do you think? See, that's the thing. Like, I'd have to like really go back and watch the video, because I feel like, I don't know if you guys have seen like, AI videos lately. But it's, it's become very easy to fake even video evidence nowadays. So, like, I'm always the kind of person I would love to believe something, but unless I get like really hard evidence, then I kind of tend to be still skeptical of it. And I get that, you know what I mean, I totally get that you're coming up from a different time than what I did and what Danny did. And, you know, the part that made me most believe those wasn't the video of things. It was the dispatcher to the police officer. It was the 911 call to that. It was when the police got there and the body cam. It wasn't so much what was on video, but it was the interaction that they were having. Yes, I am weary that this video came out many months later. There's no way to fact check it. It originally came from the body cam. You can tell that from the video. You know what I mean? But I understand the hesitation when that portion comes out a lot later. And he could say fact, you know, which was on the video, he said, fact, check me, you know, have I want, I'm open this up for discussion. Anybody can come and get this. Anybody can come and take it, you know, to try to just prove it. If you, if you are one page ahead in a chapter book, you seem like an expert. You know what I mean? He just might have something that's a little bit better than anybody else, right? So, you know, I do hear that, but I do believe that, you know, this. Blue collar family, I mean, they had a construction business or something. They have, you know, tractors in their yard. You know, I do think they were visited by something. So, what do we have next, Nicole? Let's keep moving on this. Yeah, so the next one I've got here. So this was kind of a follow up to something that happened in 1973. There was a man from Pensacola who has, he was driving along Interstate 10 on October 17, 1973, and he was abducted by Claude aliens. He described them as there being six of them, and they were short with claw-like arms that they allegedly abducted him, and there were a ton of other local and regional UFO reports that were recorded around that same time. But this was the one report that like no one ever followed up on it. He was just kind of left like with no answers. And then that same day, there was like hundreds of reports of flying saucers and UFOs from South Alabama through north was Florida, but those were all like investigated or like explained away as like the air force running drills like planes, things like that. But then six days before there was an experience that was similar to his that was experienced by two men who were fishing on the Pascagoula River. But then again, like this guy, it's been 50 years and he still has like zero, like there's been no follow up on his case, even though other ones around that time were investigated. Let's go. That's where it isn't. As a United Explorer card member, you can earn 50,000 bonus miles. Plus, look forward to extraordinary travel rewards, including a free checked bag, two times the miles on United purchases, and two times the miles on dining and at hotels. Become an explorer and seek out unforgettable places while enjoying rewards everywhere you travel. 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So in reading about this one in Pensacola, Florida, smoke, there's fire, right? So if a bunch of other people in neighboring cities, neighboring states really have seen a lot of things. It definitely sounds like Kexburg where, you know, people saw a bunch of different things from all over. It's not just one person, it's all one thing in the sky. So that leds credibility to it as well. But it also reminds me of the Hopkinsville case back in West Virginia with the goblins. When I read Little Green Men running all over the roof in Hopkinsville, I believe it's one of the only times that people ever opened fire on, you know, started shooting at aliens in this country that we know about. So it definitely, you know, it rang a bell with that one that, okay, I hear Little Green Men. I hear putting the house under siege by running along the roof, trying to get into the building, all that kind of stuff. And it was around the same time in the early 70s. And I think it was 60s for the Hopkinsville, actually, it might be a little different. But yeah, they're going to, of course, explain all the way from the Air Force because the Air Force at that time just finished Project Blue Book. So they were done, you know, I mean, I don't care anymore about aliens. So everything is going to be explained away, which at that time, in order to understand the story back in that time, that's where everybody's mind was, was there are no UFOs, Blue Book didn't find anything. This is how it is from now on. Okay, so any kind of report that came out, I felt bad for, really, and look at the negligence on this one. But if you follow it up with them for 50 years, you have course not Blue Book ended in 70. This is 73. Everything from then, for at least the foreseeable future was, you know, we don't care about it anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Let's, let's get to the next one, because the next one's really, really odd. Yeah. We are thinking of the same one, right, the Mackamie Manor? Yeah. Just making sure. Okay. Yeah. So if this one is pretty big news, I feel like most people have probably already heard this one, but if you haven't heard, the owner of Mackamie Manor was charged with rape and attempted murder, which if you don't know what Mackamie Manor is, that is a quote unquote extreme haunted house, and it's located in Tennessee. And basically, it's like your typical haunted house, but you have to sign a waiver to get in. And then you essentially get mentally and physically tortured for like the entire experience. They'll like electrocute you, they'll like cut off your hair. Because people find it's, they think it's fun. I don't know. They electrocute you and they cut your hair. Yeah. They'll like almost drown you. Like there's a whole group of videos that keep going through there. Then people pay to go in here. Yeah, they pay to go in there. So it's like crazy stuff. And I had already been hearing like from previous years that there were people, you know, claiming that because it's supposed to be like if you ask an employee to stop the experience, like you want to back out that they would let you out. And I heard a people like not being let out and they would just continue the haunted house. And then the manner is being investigated for potentially violating super protection laws by not letting people stop when they want to. What is it to go there? That I don't know. That's why I thought I thought. Yeah, I think it's all under the torture. Let's just kind of creepy. So, um, has, have you seen, has anyone seen the Netflix or the Hulu special about this house? No, I have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you go to their website, it has what episode of, you know, this one show that it's featured in and the people I've watched that episode and the people in there find a sort of gratification in doing this. And they look at it as trauma healing. They think of it as therapy almost where they're pushed beyond their their walls. I don't know. They're pushed beyond something. And they talk about that. I know it is messed up, but where he was getting in trouble was this dude had this manner. And he actually went about it at one point, went about it correctly and talked to the, what is the state attorney general or the district attorney and said, am I doing something illegal? And they made a way for it to be legal by having the consent form, but also a safe word. So if you're telling me stop, I don't want to do this anymore. Stop. They're going to keep going. But if you said your safe word, they were going to let you out because the DA said, you were signing something voluntarily going in. Your safe word is the law pulling you out. So you need to know it's on the consumer to they need to know when, hey, if this is too much, you got to get out and not hold them accountable where they got into trouble was there was this woman who, which was in 2023 around Halloween, where she had claimed she's saying her safe word and they're not letting her out, which now it becomes kidnapping at that point. You know what I mean. So, and then here's a, I don't want to give it away. I won't give too much away, but he does videotape people in there. Yeah. Yeah, he does. So you want to talk about a different kind of gratification is probably going on there. Yeah. So, so the sexual assault, the rape, the attempted murder. So that was actually somebody in there that was. No, it was his girlfriend. His girlfriend is girlfriend at home. Yeah. Yeah, because he was originally. Yeah, well, she was in there. But he was arrested for the domestic assault charges against his girlfriend and then following that arrest is when they found out that he was also raping and attempted to murder her. But I guess it also just begs the question of like, if this is the kind of person running this business, who is he hiring also to like be the employees who are actually running it like day to day. No, you're exactly right with that because you need a certain type of person, right, to be a good employee. And that's what he wants. He wants probably clones of himself, you know, running this place. But, you know, you're right. You know, where's the background check? Where's HR on this one? You know what I mean? Yeah, the other guy can look to work here that we heard in the other story, who knows. But, yeah, that so let me let me also like educate people a little bit about the crime here. They charged him with attempted murder, second degree. They attempted they charged him with rape and they charge him a sexual assault. The bond. I read this. The bond on this case was only $1,000. Those charges aren't sticking. It's a plea deal. They're not putting somebody away for a long time and only get make it and pay $1,000 bond. It's just not happening. So, I wonder, you know, what that is, you know, I wonder what it's going to end up being. And it's possible that they could all drop these charges down to lesser offenses. And sadly, somebody might not, you know, get justice. Yeah, it's great. Tennessee, they were good for a while. Come on, Tim and Bertrand. What are you doing? All right. What's next? So then my last story that I have here. So this was a Jersey Shore professor who she's currently seeking clues for alien life on the ocean floor, actually. So her name is Lauren sailor and she's a professor from Stockton University. And she's been looking for clues about alien life forms in the Atacama trench, which is a deep ocean trench off the coast of Chile. And she's investigating these like deep parts of the ocean where the sun can't penetrate specifically looking into the presence of like kind of hotspots of methane gas, but she calls methane seeps because those can provide energy for deep sea life, which can exist down there. And the reason she's looking into this specifically in relation to aliens is because she is in the field of astrobiology, which is basically she's studying how life originated on earth and how life could form an outer space and how those can be connected. And specifically, like, I don't know if you guys know anything about like ocean biology, but there's some freaky stuff down there. And it could totally be related to freaky stuff up there. So there's a lot of freaky stuff down there. Jenny, you ever want to explore the ocean bottom. No, it scares me. You know what they say that there's been more people in space and down at the bottom of the ocean. No, that's because probably because those creepy things up there down there. I used to like, like, as a kid there was a show called Man from Atlantis. Yeah, I like garbage and stuff like that. You never know. There might be some freaky stuff down there. And a lot of the UAPs, I would say, right? They said that they would go to extreme speed and go into the ocean. And then they never came back. So where did they go? Yeah. Underground. I'm a big, I love UAPs. I'm a big proponent of that. And if the method that they claim of travel down at the bottom is that they're not actually touching the water. They're having to go around it. You know what I mean? They're moving the water around it. They're actually not swimming, you know, or, or, you know, like how our subs are in the water. So if you can move that around you effectively get rid of all the pressure. And that's why we can't go down there. Just ask those people with the, you know, PlayStation controller. They couldn't go down there. No, no, that was ridiculous. That was ridiculous. He built, it was one of those aluminum trash against Walmart. I know. But he had a racket, though. What was it? 125 grand a ticket or so? Yeah, but we're coming to the end of the show. And unfortunately, I wish we could stay with Nicole, because I like her presentation. So she'll have to come back. Can you tell us your album name and where people can find it? Yeah. Yeah. So my, like, full artist names, Nicole Costa, that's C.O.S. TA. And my newest album, it's my fourth one actually self produced. It's called Demonology. No, it's not Satanic. It's a metaphor. But yeah, it's out on everything. Spotify, Apple, Amazon, we're done here. I'm going to have to go check it out. Thank you. Yeah. And it was great having everybody on tonight. Hey, Tom, you're going to have to close the show because for some reason, Mike, I don't know, somebody must have been in here. I don't know who it is. Demon or somebody else's. Maybe Michelle's in their planet trick. I mean, I can't see any of the, I can't see. All right. I can't see it. All right, everyone. Well, I want to thank Nicole for coming on and please check out Demonology. And next time you're back on, download a few samples so we can play it on. Okay, Nicole. Absolutely. I'll try. I'd have to censor myself. I have a bit of mouth on my music. Yeah. Then you'll fit right in with chasing profit. Right here on EPR and one of 5.3 in the Gulf Coast and one of 7.7 in New Orleans. We want to thank you all for listening. You have been following us. You've been listening to Chasing Prophecy Radio and everybody stay weird. Stay fun. And we'll see you next week. Bye everyone. How to have fun. Anytime. Anywhere. Step one. Go to Chambocasino.com. Chambocasino.com. Got it. Step two. 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