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Hey there Lemon Heads! Vice President Kamala Harris and Donald Trump will face off in their first presidential debate tonight. Join Don to break down what we can expect and all the other Hot Topics of the day! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey there Lemon Heads! Vice President Kamala Harris and Donald Trump will face off in their first presidential debate tonight. Join Don to break down what we can expect and all the other Hot Topics of the day!

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This episode is brought to you by Lifelock. October is Cyber Security Awareness Month, so Lifelock wants to remind you to update your passwords. Using the same password across multiple accounts makes you vulnerable to cyber criminals. For comprehensive identity theft protection, let Lifelock alert you to anything suspicious and fix any issues. Start protecting your identity today with a 30-day free trial at lifelock.com/podcast. Terms apply. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Hot Topics with Don Lemon on this Tuesday, debate day. Are you ready? Do you think Donald Trump is ready? Do you think Kamala Harris is ready? I'm sure they're prepping right now. But as we are getting ready to watch the debate, the candidates are prepping for the debates. I should say the media and Republicans, spin-mysters and Republicans and even the vice president, they're talking about wild conspiracy theories. Have you heard this cat conspiracy theory? I don't have to tell you that over the years, a GOP has really smeared immigrant communities right? In a million ways. One is quite differently. They were accused of poisoning the blood of the nation. Tucker Carlson said that they make the country "poor and dirtier." And remember, Donald Trump said they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. They have largely adapted this racist, great conspiracy theory as well, made up of this mythical migrant crime wave as a central election theme. But this most recent anti-migrant attack is just really bizarre. And it talks about immigrant communities killing and eating beloved family pets. They're claiming that there are bands of Haitians that are eating Scooby-Doo and Garfield. I know that sounds bizarre, okay? But I want to explain, on Monday, there was a social media. These posts that said that these prominent conservative lawmakers and commentators claiming that Haitian migrants in the town of Springfield, Ohio, that they were eating cats and that this woman, apparently, allegedly, had been arrested for eating a cat. But that's not exactly what the evidence and the record show. I want to play now my friends over at Morning Joe talking about this bizarre conspiracy theory and debunking this conspiracy. It is bizarre. On debate night, on debate day, I should say, and before, instead of talking policy, they're talking cat eating conspiracy theory by immigrants. Haitian immigrants, watch. Joe's point earlier, this is the kind of stuff that not that long ago would sort of pop up in these dark, strange corners of the internet and be snuffed out and just so the mouth breathers could talk about it among themselves. But now you've got Elon Musk and it's risen to the top of the presidential ticket. And JD Vance amplifying something clearly made up. The Washington Post has a long piece debunking this too. The photograph that they're using isn't even from Springfield. The person is not Haitian, not enough. Well, and then I think the danger of this is to allow us to continue to mainstream stuff that used to just be looked at as some craziness on the outside of any serious consideration of what's going on. And don't miss the racial angle here, Haitian and illegal. And JD Vance, particularly zeroing on Haitian immigrants. And I think that this goes to, you know, blacks, accountables and meet each other. I mean, it plays into all of that history of racism, which is part of what Donald Trump has appealed to since Charlottesville, since Bertherism. When you hear Kamala Harris saying that's the old playbook, that's part of the old playbook of race. They, not just immigrants, it's Haitian immigrants eating your pets, eating your animals, because you know they're accountables and we can't miss that. Okay. So to be clear, this is baseless and I just want to read something. This is from the Springfield Police Division. They told the Springfield News on Sunday, on Monday, Sunday, Monday that they had received zero reports of pets being stolen and eaten. So Republicans completely made this up. Now there is a report from another town and another city of something like this happening, but the person who's accused of doing it is not a Haitian immigrant. So again, this is completely made up. By yesterday, this baseless claim was spreading like wildfire across social media. Republican Senator, Ohio Senator J.D. Vance, who is the nominee on the Republican side for Vice President, also went on Twitter, and we can put that up, writing this, months ago, I raised the issue of Haitian illegal immigrants draining social services and generally causing chaos all over Springfield, Ohio, reports now show that people had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country. Where is our border czar? He is spreading this bullshit and he is the vice presidential nominee on the Republican side. This is sort of a kin, not sort of a kin, it's akin to the demonization of immigrants. Remember this report about, apparently, about Venezuelan, this gang taking over an apartment complex, and then this is in Aurora, Colorado, the police department there saying it is not true, that this is overhyped. There was one incident where this happened, it was an isolated incident, but instead on conservative media, and with Republicans, including Donald Trump and J.D. Vance, they are spreading all of these lies, okay? Now, listen, I do want to say that, you know, Ohio, the pandemic was hard on Springfield, Ohio, right? And there were lots of immigrants, by the way, these aren't undocumented immigrants, but it was hard. There was a swell of undocumented immigrants. There were issues with workers there in a warehouse. But these are, again, not undocumented immigrants. Overwhelmingly, they have legal immigration status, they have work authorizations, they have social security numbers. Nonetheless, on Friday, this prominent right wing, this all started when this prominent right wing Twitter account called In Wokeness posted a screenshot of a post on a private Facebook page, and then it all took off. And what it said was, "Warning all to all about our beloved pets and those around us. My neighbor informed me that her daughter's friend had lost her cat, the user wrote, one day she came home from work, and as soon as she stepped out of her car, looked towards a neighbor's house where Haitians live and saw her cat hanging from a branch like you do a deer for butchering and on and on and on, it went. This is all made up. And that is what they're talking about right now. That is what they are hoping will come up during the debate. That is what they're hoping Americans will believe, and JD Vance helping to spread all of these lies. Okay? We're going to pay attention to that. So, by the way, Senator Ted Cruz posted an image of two kittens with a superimposed caption reading, "Please vote for Trump's so Haitian immigrants don't eat us." Desperate and racist. That's all I have to say. Now let's talk about the debate preview, because Vice President Harris is going to face off with Donald Trump. Since this is the first time that they are going to meet, by the way, remember this first time that they're going to meet because he would not, he wouldn't do a peaceful transition of power. He did not want to turn over the levers of government and the executive branch to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, so he never did it. That was in 2020. But they have never met. The event is going to be tonight at 9 p.m. Eastern. It's going to be 90 minutes from the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia. ABC News anchors David Muir and Lindsey Davis will be the moderators, which will be broadcast again, and streamed on ABC News Live, Disney+ and Hulu. It's going to be the same rules as the debate in June with Joe Biden. The microphones will be off if whoever's not speaking, their microphone will be muted. Whoever's speaking, obviously the microphone will be open. There will be no audience. And apparently, I don't believe that there's going to be any fact-checking, which could be a concern. I think it is a concern, because I think that there should be fact-checking, right? I think that there should be fact-checking by the moderators, but apparently they don't want that. I'm pretty sure that the Republicans don't want that. So, again, what does Kamala Harris need to do in order to get the American people to know her, to understand her policies, which she is proposing? Because if you look at the latest polling, it shows that many Americans are not familiar with Kamala Harris. They're not familiar with what she stands for or what her policies are. And so there's some concern among Democrats and among the Harris campaign that that may be problematic for them. What does she need to do to introduce herself to Americans? What does she need to do to win the debate? Here are my friends again over at Morning Joe. Right, 9 o'clock, 90 minutes. This is an important moment for both of these candidates, it goes without saying. But particularly for Vice President Harris, who's done one joint interview since all the hoopla and the energy we all saw at the DNC in Chicago, this will be the first time she ever meets Donald Trump, obviously the first time they're on a stage together. What will you be looking for? Well, she's got a hard job and I'm a little nervous that the expectations for her are so high and the expectations for him are so low. Typically, these things don't come out really lopsided, although the last one kind of did. And so I think all of us are nervous because of that maybe, listen, she's got to do really three important things. She's got to be strong. She's got to show real strength so we can vanquish this idea that she's not toughened up to stand up to Trump's boyfriends, Putin and she and all the ones that he's so in love with. Second, she's got to be nice and give people a sense of lightness and joy and hope and optimism and feeling really good about the United States of America. The third thing she's got to do, and this is the hardest, is she's got to be the new kid on the block. She's got to figure out a way, and by the way, she's got to advantage here, Willie, because people understand fundamentally that vice presidents don't make policy. The reason America doesn't know her is because she was a vice president, it's a diminishing role. Everybody understands you're not in charge. You are a supporting character when you're a vice president. She's got to be the leading character tonight and she's got to not distance herself from a man that we all respect and know has done an amazing job, but she's got to establish herself as the new kid on the block, that she is the change, that all of these disengaged voters, these swing voters that will decide this election, that they then see her as the change they're looking for. Okay, Claire McCaskill over on Morning Joe, and she's absolutely right, but she has to do. But I also think that Kamala Harris, Donald Trump is a bully, so he's going to try to bully her. He's going to try to intimidate her. He's going to try to steamroll her. What she needs to do, because people, she's going to be talking about policies, we all know Donald Trump is going to lie, everyone knows that, almost every word that comes out of his mouth is a lie. That's not hyperbole, that's just facts. So what she needs to do is, look, I think she needs to introduce herself obviously and tell people what she's going to do, but she cannot spend the entire time debunking Donald Trump's lies because then people don't get to know her. What she needs to do is punch a bully right in the nose, straight off the bat. I cannot believe that I'm actually subjected to having to be on the same stage where they convicted felon. I don't understand why you're still in the race considering how you lie, that you have been found guilty of crimes, that you have been found liable for sexually assaulting a woman, which the judge says is rape. How you have co-opted people into voting for you and believing your lies, that you, that you co-opt hardworking people who live paycheck to paycheck and you get them to send you their hard earned money to pay your legal bills. That is not only untoward, it's un-American, but since I have to stand here with you as a former prosecutor who has stood up and alongside police officers in this country and on the side of justice, I know exactly how to handle people like you and what to do with people like you. She's got to hit it out of the park because otherwise a performance that is, oh she did okay, like the interview, she didn't really hurt herself, she didn't really help herself. It was kind of a wash, that's not, that's going to be a loss quite honestly for Kamala Harris. She's got to hit it out of the park and I know that's unfair because the rules are different for them. He can get away, he can say he can do anything and he's just impervious to criticism and all of it. She is judged from her hair, what her hairstyle looks like, the makeup, what she's wearing, all of that, all the way down to her shoes, even what comes, everything that comes out of her mouth. Donald Trump can say anything. So I understand that the rules are different and I agree with Claire McCaskell, McCaskell, she cannot come off as angry, especially being an angry black woman. So she's going to have to do all of this and do what Ginger Rogers did with Fred Astaire. She's going to have to do it, do it better, do it backwards and it heals. That's a high bar, but she's got to do it and I believe that she can do it. She shouldn't be overly prepared and she should learn a lesson, quite frankly, from Hillary Clinton and not be too careful and too buttoned up. She has to be real and herself and she's got to punch him right in the nose. In the meantime, the folks over at Fox News are saying, "Hey, Donald Trump, you know he's his record, the record shows, he doesn't need to do anything but stand there." This is what Kamala Harris is proposing is a dream. Unless there's a policy that the Biden administration proposed and that they believe is not working then they want to pin it on Kamala Harris and the vice president, right? But they're saying he doesn't really need to do anything, he just needs to stand there because his record speaks for itself. Really? Watch. We don't see her as a change candidate. You know, I see so much irony in what you're saying. So Donald Trump now is the candidate for change and the change is what he had that was working. The change is what people have already seen and that's ironic because usually people want you to imagine what it would be like if it were them and that's what she's trying to do. You don't really have to imagine with him. You can hate the posts and the tweets and blah, blah, blah, blah but you got to love those gas prices, you got to love those food prices, you got to love a guy who's got a plan for tackling inflation that actually is about tackling inflation. And to that point, 51% in that same poll did see Trump as major change candidate. Yeah. I mean, it's fascinating. Change to what worked real quickly. You had that scroll on before and I caught. Okay, so let's, Harris, Harris, I was going to say stop drinking the Kool-Aid but I remember that whole thing with the Kool-Aid and you and that was problematic and I agreed with it. This guy asked you, the co-host there, do you give your kids a Kool-Aid when you're giving a recipe? I mean, really? Okay. But Harris, let's talk about gas prices. I'm just going to look at, I'm just going to pull up some headlines here. Why low gas prices shouldn't be a bragging point in presidential elections? Why do they say it? Because gas prices, the cost of gasoline at the pump has dropped by more than 15% from a year ago at the end of summer driving. Florida gas prices fall after oil price tank. Trump is all hot air as gas prices fall. Michigan gas prices dropped the lowest point since February. Gas prices continue to drop in Virginia. Why? AAA reports Michigan gas prices dropped to lowest since February. Michigan is pumping so much oil that gas could be below $3 by Thanksgiving. Yes, you got to love those gas prices because they're actually low under the Biden administration. You know why those gas prices were up? Because of a Donald Trump presidency, of a Donald Trump administration. Now let's talk about grocery prices. He wants to talk about groceries. There were no groceries on the shelves. Remember a pandemic? Biden administration. Remember the economy that the Trump administration handed to the Biden administration? So you want to talk about those, you really want Donald Trump to talk about his record, his economic record at this debate. I mean, he can lie about it, he will. They can fudge it and embellish it as you are over on Fox News and on other channels. It's conservative channels, but it's all bullshit because the numbers speak for themselves. Because Donald Trump has really no record to go on, only the conspiracy theories that they're talking about with eating cats and the bogus numbers, and look at the job numbers as well, also, lowest unemployment ever, lowest unemployment for African Americans ever, under the Biden administration. So what is conservative media doing ahead of the debate? When you don't have facts, what do you do? You pound the table or you insult or you try to discredit the authority or your opponent. In this case, they believe that the ABC moderators are their opponents. And so Sean Hannity is trying to discredit the moderators even before the debate. I believe that there should be fact-checking. They're obviously concerned about that and so is Sean Hannity. Watch. Bob Iger and his left-wing heir apparent, maybe they don't want half the country to attend their theme parks. Maybe they don't care about their tanking stock price, which is their prerogative. They're free to make that choice. But if they are biased against Donald Trump, as they have been leading into tomorrow night, as their nightly newscast is, half the country is not going to like it one bit and not going to like ABC Disney one bit either. So you know what he's talking about, right? He's talking about ABC, they want people to visit their theme parks, he's actually kind of threatening ABC there by saying you better be careful because I'm going to get people riled up. This is going to get people riled up. Donald Trump will be able to affect your business because then MAGA folks, conservative folks won't go to Disney, right? ABC is owned by Disney. And when he's talking about stock prices, he's talking about Disney stock prices as well. And I think that was also probably a hit on the owners of CNN or whatever the stock prices are down, WBD Warner Brothers. So and all of the major networks are owned by big media companies, right? So a big entertainment companies like CBS, Paramount. So maybe he's warning everyone, all of the media companies. Why? Because the facts aren't on their side. Now here's something that I find very interesting. One asked what I thought was going to happen with the debate, right? And I said, and you can look on social media, I said, I think it's going to be a political royal shock test. Where if you already support Donald Trump, you're going to say that he won and he knocked it out of the park. If you already support Kamala Harris, you're going to say she won and she knocked it out of the park. I found myself strangely agreeing with Dave Portnoy. He talks about several things in this clip that I'm about to show you. But basically, I sort of agree with him about the results, the outcome of the debate. Here it is. But she's never really gotten in that form, so I'd be surprised if she did it, but that's up to her. It's a personal decision. Okay. What about with style politics? Tomorrow, the debate between Trump and Harris, are you going to be watching? And what do you want to hear from both candidates? Yeah, of course I'm going to be watching. You know, I'm curious to see how it goes. We really haven't heard anything from Harris, so I'm just curious to see how she speaks, how she responds. But the truth of the matter is I don't think this debate is going to change how really anybody votes. The problem with this country, everybody's already made up their mind. They're so entrenched. This election, I think it's just going to come down to who can get their people to get out more. But nobody, I don't think, is flip flopping based on what's going to happen. I think it'll be a soundbite fest. But it comes down to who looks presidential, who looks like they can handle the Oval Office either again for Trump or first time for Harris. That is perception, it's demeanor that's really important, isn't it? Yeah, it's super important. But again, I'd go back to, I don't know that matters, like the people who are going to vote Democratic and you'll vote Democratic no matter what, they could probably wheeled out Joe Biden and had, you know, let us come out of his head. They'd still vote, we're so entrenched in who we want already, it's really hard to change minds. True. I got you down as a Trump guy, Dave. Are you? Are you prepared to say it? You are? Yeah. Yeah. I'm voting for Trump. I don't know that I call myself a Trump guy. Like if I thought there was a candidate that was better, I would be open to having that. Like I did vote for him in the, I wouldn't have voted for him in the Republican primaries, but I'm voting for him now. Okay. You've got a big prediction. You think Caitlyn Clark and the India. Okay. So, he went through several things, right? He said he didn't believe that Taylor Swift was going to get involved because he didn't get involved in things like this. A lot of people are looking for her to do that. But as it relates to the debate, I have to agree with you. I agree with him. I think he's bar still sports, this, Dave Portnoy, and so I think he's right on. I think it's going to be a political workshop test and it's going to be a sound bite fest. But I also believe that Kamala Harris has to punch him in the nose. I don't mean that, you know, literally punch him in the nose. It's a figure of speech in order to come out on top. And maybe we'll see. I don't know if it's going to make a difference in the polls at all because I believe people have mostly made up their minds and all these people were saying they're undecided. I don't know what planet they're living on, but apparently there are those who say that. I think maybe they're just thirsty and they want attention. But it would be odd to me that at this point, with what 50 some days, just under 60 days to the election, and you haven't made up your mind, come on. Okay, I want to update a story that we brought to you yesterday. And that is with a wide receiver of the Miami Dolphins, Harry Hill. So there's an update. So yesterday, I told you this story that he was on his way to the game on Sunday. And he was pulled over for speeding. And he had this altercation with police. He ended up on the ground in handcuffs, face down. And there was, you know, some yelling and altercation other players for the Miami Dolphins actually tried to come to the aid to his aid. So and he spoke about it after the game on Sunday, ended up scoring a touchdown, an ADR touchdown, which was amazing, and then sort of reenacting his arrest or detention after, you know, he scored that touchdown. But the body cam video is now out from police. Now what they're saying is that he did not comply and that he they told him to roll his window down because his windows were. This episode is brought to you by Lifelock. October is Cyber Security Awareness Month. So Lifelock wants to remind you to update your passwords. Using the same password across multiple accounts makes you vulnerable to cyber criminals. For comprehensive identity theft protection, let Lifelock alert you to anything suspicious and fix any issues. Start protecting your identity today with a 30 day free trial at lifelock.com/podcast. Terms apply. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Hey, keep your window down. Keep your window down and I'm gonna get you out of the car. As a matter of fact, get out of the car. Give me a hug. Get out of the car. Get out of the car. Get out of the car right now. Put your plane this way. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out. Get out. What part of the problem is you understand? Hey, Drew, hey, Drew, I'm getting arrested, Drew. I'm getting arrested. I'm getting arrested, Drew. I'm getting up. Man, I got you. I swear. When we tell you do something, you do it. You understand? I'm getting up. You understand what you want for what we tell you. I'm getting up. You're doing a fucking confused. I'm getting up, right? Too late. Too late. Alright, bro, take yourself. Bro, do what you gotta do. We are. We will. Good, bro. It ain't good. Hey, don't worry, bro. That hasn't helped the fool. Stop crying. Bro. Yeah. Don't move. Don't move. Bro, you beat up my window like you crazy. You said I'm up? What y'all beat up my window like y'all crazy far? Yeah, yeah. Don't move. Don't move. Don't move. Don't move. Don't move. Don't move. Don't move. Don't move. Don't move. Don't move. Don't move. Hey, don't park there. Don't park there. Don't park there. Hey. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> I can have surgery on my knee, I can have surgery on my knee, bruh. I can have surgery on my knee, bruh, I can have surgery on my knee, bruh. I can have surgery on my knee, bruh, I can have surgery on my knee, bruh. I can have surgery on my knee, bruh, I can have surgery on my knee, bruh, I can have surgery on my knee, bruh, I can have surgery on my knee, bruh. >> Hey, Carl Drew, bruh, hey, Carl Drew, bruh, hey, Carl Drew, bruh, hey, Carl Drew, bruh, hey. >> Okay, we can stop it there. You can keep rolling, and you can keep rolling it if you want to and just turn the sound down so I can talk. But I think people should see cuz I don't know what am I doing? So, let me just say this. There were several of his teammates who came by including Jonu Smith, Calias Campbell. He was on the phone, you could hear, he was on the phone with a teammate. And also, I think they said Odell Beckham or something. I'm not sure about that, also came by to try to help. There were several people who came by to try to help him. And here's what I think. So he rolled the window down and gave him his identification immediately. And then he said, do what you gotta do, and he put his window up, right? So if they wanna write him a ticket, then write him a ticket. And then they said, put your window down and he cracks it, whatever. So you can see the officers now arguing with his teammates. I think they said they were friends. I don't think they identified themselves as teammates. But any, that officer is on a power trip. I'm sorry, as an officer, you're supposed to deescalate the situation. Those officers were on a power trip, they did not have to handle him that way, they did not have to speak to him that way, I'm sorry. I don't care what you say he should have complied. People are saying he did not comply. He said he opened the window immediately. He handed him his ID, and he said, do what you gotta do. You know what they have to do? They have to go back to the thing, or whatever, check to see if his driver's license is valid. Look at the license plate and write him a ticket. That's what they have to do. I put your window down, the window's cracked, I want it all the way down. Look, I don't know about all that mess. It seems excessive to me. They did not have to pull the man out of his car like that and throw him on the ground and speak to him that way. They could have written him a ticket, they could have deescalated the situation. That's what they are trained for. Anytime someone stops you for any kind of traffic violation, you're not going to be happy about it. Now, I always tell people to comply. Perhaps, okay, fine, put your hands on the wheel, like my mom taught me and my dad and do what the officers tell you to do. Okay, yes, you should do that. But in my estimation, if I'm watching that and I'm a trained police officer and he said do what you've got to do, what have you, I would do, okay, fine. Go back, here's your ticket. If there's nothing wrong with his driver's license, if there are no arrest warrants, just because someone isn't nice to you as a police officer, does not mean that you can treat them that way. No one's going to be happy for a traffic violation. I think it's excessive. Now, there's also some other video. There's a different perspective of the video shot from, I believe it's from TMZ that we have that you could see that was immediately taken after the altercation, really after I think they put him on the ground. Let's, do we have that video? >> Power, man. [BLANK_AUDIO] [MUSIC] >> So what, he's sitting there, handcuffed. >> What the hell is going on? >> As if he's going to run away or drive away and he's not, none of that. He said do what you got to do, write me the ticket. Here's my identification, come on. [BLANK_AUDIO] Because someone can go, yes, officer, okay, fine, whatever, yeah, okay, fine. Maybe he should have, maybe he should have rolled his window down further. That's all he did, he didn't roll his window down far enough. He cracked it, and you were mad. So after the game yesterday, Tyree Kill said, look, I wanna, he thought that it went from zero, he said to 60 in a minute, like zero to 100, like whatever, zero to 60 immediately said. The added that he called his team security officer from the car, that's what he was saying call. And he said, continue on, he says, that officer was really on a power trip, is what he said, and he said he felt like he just needed to do something that day. But like I said, I'm glad nobody was hurt. [BLANK_AUDIO] I think he's right. He also spoke out last night on CNN. Here he is. >> Well, you said, if you weren't Tyree Kill, that you, this could have ended a lot differently. What do you think could have happened? >> Yeah, so the crazy part about it is, I hate talking like this, man. But because I have a kid fan base, but the reality of it is, it's the truth. If I wasn't Tyree Kill, worst case scenario, we would have had a different article, Tyree Kill, got shot in front of Horrock Stadium. That's worst case scenario, or Tyree Kill, put in handcuffs and taking in and booked. But it's crazy that, me and my family had to go through this, so. So I watched this video of Tyree Kill last night with a bunch of different perspectives. Everyone from conservative to liberal, white, black, Latino, was at dinner, had a book launched last night. They all thought these officers were doing too much. That it is an officer's job to deescalate, not to be on a power trip. Perhaps there were things that Tyree Kill could have done better, but he's not a trained officer. So I think there's a lesson in it for, I hate to say, this is a learning moment, a teachable moment. There is a learning experience here, I believe, and I hope we learn our lesson from this, about how to make policing better, to see what officers actually go through, and just how embarrassing that was for someone, and how that could have escalated. And I think Tyree Kill is right. That could have escalated into a situation that I don't even want to fathom. That we could be talking about differently today. Okay, so now you're caught up, and I'm so glad that you guys joined us this morning for our hot topic show. We're going to see you tonight at five o'clock. At five o'clock, and as we five o'clock, we're going to do late, we'll see. Five o'clock, hopefully, we'll do a five o'clock show. We'll see, because we also have our late show. Make sure you join us, you can watch the debate right here, the entire debate on this channel, on the Don Lemon Channel. And then, we're going to have post-debate coverage with a panel of experts to talk about exactly what happened during the debate. Who won? Who lied? Do they get their issues across? Is it going to affect the polling in the election? What's real about the polling? Is the Kamala Harris enthusiasm really over, as the New York Times says? And today, it's out, my book is out, I actually listened to my entire book, Overnight, in my own voice, it was a little painful for me, overnight. But anyway, you can get it on audio, and you can purchase it at your local bookstore, and you can order it online, but it is out. I love the audio version, the hardcover is good as well. And there are notes from my pals in the back. There's a note from Cara Swisher, the Cara Swisher, over at the Pivot Podcast. There's a note from the Sonny Hostin on the back, from the view, Claude Davis, right, great record producer, and a Navarro political strategist, and also from co-host of the view. And then, Lee Daniels, filmmaker, his new movie, The Deliverance Is Out. Remember, I can smell your nappy, whatever, with Glenn Close and Monique. So, anyway, thank you, make sure you buy it, and we'll discuss it after the debate when there's not so much politics and things aren't so pressing when it comes to the political world. So thank you for watching, everyone. I'll see you a little bit later at five o'clock, but be sure to tune in for the entire debate. We're going to run it on this channel, you don't need to go anywhere else, you can stream it right here, and then for our post-debate coverage, okay? See you later at five o'clock, thanks for watching. [ Silence ]