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What's Next In AI?

Dr. Natalie Gentile calls in to talk about AI efforts to cure cancer.

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17 Sep 2024
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Good morning. Good morning. I think when people hear artificial intelligence, Dr. they immediately think this robots are going to take over the world. There's always a ying and yang with technology as we've seen with the internet. There's the good, the bad and the ugly, but artificial intelligence can play a key role as I understand in helping doctors first with diagnosis. So how does this work now and is it being utilized here in Pittsburgh? Yeah. It looks like it's being rolled out here in Pittsburgh and explored, which is not surprising given we have so many health centers, plus we are such a technological hub in the country. So it's really exciting to see how this is being applied in medicine. If you think about a lot of diagnoses, it can really surround pattern recognition and rely on pattern recognition, which is something that AI can be excellent at, right? And then once you can do that pattern recognition, then you can start to extrapolate for the nuances, which we talk about as like the art of medicine, which is very exciting. So I would say just as a lay person that if I'm thinking about it, so you as a physician or any doctor, depending on what your skill sets are, and you know, which medicine you've chose to work in and study is if I'm talking to a patient and I'm asking questions like you normally would, right, to try to figure out what's wrong with somebody I'm just talking about for anything. It seems to me the artificial intelligence access in hearing what the patient's saying could provide you as the physician. Now, the machine's not making a decision. They're just providing you with more tools and information as that process goes on. Is that correct? Correct. And then in the case of trying to diagnose and potentially help cure some cancers, it would be next step and next generation, which obviously is the hope. Yeah, and I think what they're really talking about in particular here in Pittsburgh right now is diagnosis via imaging, so, you know, radiology applications of artificial intelligence, which makes a lot of sense because, again, pattern recognition, anatomy, like these types of things are something you can absolutely apply with AI and have been coming down the pipeline for a while. But it's actually happening, right? They're trying, they're testing this using it. Yes, I was reading about one that has to do with mapping out for skin cancer too. So again, thinking about like something that is looking at anatomy, something which in this case it's the skin and looking for patterns and changes in those patterns. But just to be clear, you're not talking to a robot if you're a patient. You're not talking to a robot if you're the patient and boy, I sure hope that's never the case. Right, although what's cool is like we are using technology so much, especially already with like people in rural settings to apply healthcare, for example, stroke diagnosis, being able to talk to people from afar where you're at a stroke center, but somebody's in a rural community and you're able to talk through, you know, AI, using AI and using telemed. So again, these things have been slowly, I think, rolling, well, like I'm not even slowly, but they've been rolling out over time and it seems like it's really starting to come to a head. Yeah, and especially when you're talking about what the pandemic did was telemedicine became accelerated in its usage. Are we using it more than we did pre pandemic? I would imagine you are. Yeah, I would already was using a lot. I always try to say that our direct primary care practices were doing telemed before it was cool because it really is, you know, a convenient thing, especially for patients. But I'd say that it's starting to slow down, obviously, compared to in the middle of the pandemic, but it's certainly something I think we've realized is very beneficial for the healthcare system. Yeah, around the country, we're in this region, we're pretty blessed, as you know, with our healthcare community and our high tech, but there are a lot of places around the country that are healthcare deserts. You know, we hear about food deserts for people, but there are healthcare deserts too, which the telemedicine can help tremendously. Yeah, and they're not that far away from our city, right? Like you only have to go 30 minutes an hour outside of the city where you start to feed major access issues. So yes, it's something that could be applied in this region and continues to be applied. I also want to say with AI, you know, with like, for example, chat GPT patients, you'll always think about Dr. Google, you know, patients looking up their symptoms and trying to find answers. That can be a potential downside in danger with things like chat GPT for now, you know, where people are typing in a symptom and getting a differential diagnosis of what could be going on. There's still, again, the art of medicine, there's still the value of the physical exam, there's still the value of knowing someone over time and being able to apply that context to your diagnosis. But obviously, these are things that are going to continue to evolve. Well, I'm glad to hear you say that because the personal interaction when possible, even though you can be as efficient as you need to be because there are shortages of physicians in many places too, as you know, but it's still good to have that one on one when possible if the assistance for you is just better information. But I'm so glad you brought up the self diagnosis issue because a splinter or a aspirin can lead to death for people who search this stuff. And they doom scrolling in medicine, yeah, where the patients come in and they already are trying to tell you what's wrong with them, right? Well, I mean, one of the scariest things is patients having access to their results of tests before the doctor has even seen them. I mean, that has opened a Pandora's box because then the, you know, patients don't know how to the lay person doesn't know how to interpret labber's health, right, especially when they see something that's out of the range of normal. And obviously those of us who practice medicine for a long time know how to interpret those things within context. And so people, like you said, doom scroll, they have significant health anxiety over these things because they have access to information that they don't necessarily know how to put into contact. Well, once again, Pittsburgh is in the forefront of utilizing artificial intelligence to help our medical community. Dr. Natalie Gentile of direct care physicians of Pittsburgh always appreciate catching up with you. Thanks. We're everything you do. Thank you. Have a great day. That's fascinating. I think artificial intelligence, Aaron, that's how you would identify some of the people that we work with really coming up and that excludes Lynn Hayes prelin next. The seasons may be changing, but the deals at the sharpest rides are unbeatable as ever. Hey, what's going on? We're El Tasha Miquilla and I need you to join the sharpest rides for their fall into savings events where they're offering incredible prices on their massive inventory. That's right. Everything is on sale now, shot from sleek sedans to rugged SUVs and sporty convertibles. The sharpest rides has the perfect ride to match your fall adventures, plus with their exclusive financing options, getting behind the wheel of your dream car has never been easier. 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