Rabbi Aryeh Beer
Hilchos Tefilah Siman kuf chaf gimel part 3
We were learning that after you finish, after you finish from Essay, you're not supposed to return to your place, till either the chazen, written by Shaqis, and then the chazos with the chazos of Shaqis, till either the chazen gets to Reducia, and that's the chattrilo, or at least you have to wait till he starts the chazos of Shaqis. So the chailis is discussed here in the little chashlomo. So what's the den, mare, an oregano mare? You're waiting, you finish before the sriyachtsibur, and you step back to three steps. So when do you go back? So he says, Shonmizam says when the chazen starts college. An interesting, what about Friday night? Because there's a very hulu. So he says when the chazen starts with a hulu, you go back. Now there's still an Indian, you have to remember what the point was. There's still an Indian, not to return to your place, right away. And the reason is, as we said, because it looks like you're finishing, you're running right back, it's not a derheritz, kehseh kehlef shawl keh, so you have to wait a while. Now once he starts with hulu, you have a good reason for going back. You want to say, "Hulu." Oh, so that's what the salah is teaching you, that's not enough. Kedaira ha'al rah is the bare minimum, hapidah gimau. You're right. In the gimau, it doesn't say, and I remember it depends how you learned that kimau. Kedaira ha'al is always required. That's always required. So that's the bare minimum. But when you're in the tibor, it should not look like you're coming back, so you have to wait a little longer. Until there's a different reason for you. You have a reason. You want to say, pay attention, ha'al rah sashat to go back to the place. Kedusha, by the way, it seems it's a haloha that you should take kedusha in tatmak. You should take kedusha in the place where you don't mention that yesterday. But anyway, it's interesting that for Marlev, a regular Marlev, when he starts kaddish, comes to kaddish Friday night, when he starts with hulu. By the way, he does also say, "Let's say, when you finish kismun esre, they had already started by a hulu. They had already started by a hulu. Let's say, you step back with three steps, and so then he says, "I didn't even wait a day to hear of tardamas." So then, if you're saying "we're hulu," don't step back while you're saying "we're hulu." Say "we're hulu," and then step back. And if you got caught, in other words, why do you say "we're hulu," you shouldn't be walking back and forth, when you're taking steps back and forth. Yeah, you do that, in the economy. If you step back and they start by hulu, don't rush right back, say "we're hulu." If in the case where you're already waiting, then you come back. That's one thing. No, he doesn't. I know, I thought, "Halyshwam." I can't, I don't know, everybody. I don't know if there's any more focus on it, and I didn't see anybody. Now, the then of the three steps, by the way, that we did discuss. That's a then in the swan esse. Another, you must take the three steps, and that's why some of them also brings down. If somebody's in a wheelchair, bar me none, he's confined to a wheelchair, so then at the end of the swan esse, the wheelchair should pull the wheelchair back. Either he or somebody else should help him, if he they can't do it himself. They should, they wield the wheelchair back three steps, right, and then when it's time to go back to read them back, to work a douche, you'll read them back. We learned that, by the way. Remember, the guy was riding the chamore? He's even in the chamore. You didn't have to go down for the chamore, but when he finished the swan esse, if you're able to read the chamore, you should go back. It's Kevin and Nifthamirabo. Is that the case for the chamore? Yeah, yeah. Well, about the three steps, probably. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. I don't remember the, I don't remember. Some of these steps are three steps, and then he has to have a second motion, and he wants to run back this place from that cadaity of the chamore. I'm just a second usual. Oh, so now, now you're all right, the mission of, okay, okay. Which mission of view is this death? Okay, let me tell you about that. This is very interesting. And now we have an interesting question. The mission of view says, in test, okay, let's see. Are we up to test? Anyway, let's look at test. So, he says, what does it say over there? Military over there? It's going, it's going, yeah, it's going under Allah. We, we learned the Mahabhar. Right? We learned that you go, but you, when he gets the kedusha, you go back. It's not the mission of view. Being here, it's with Velasa. You down an elongation, as they did in the chasm, and he started with the kedusha, and then you step back to three steps, where is your person? He gives you the kedusha. Right then, there, he's already up to kedusha. What happened? By the way, that's not, not only it, it happens, that's sometimes what you're going to have to do, because if you're davening, and he's already starting the kedusha, and you're, let's say you're saying, Takhnunim, wherever it is, and he's up to kedusha. So the Mahabhar said, stop. Step back to three steps. That's what the Mahabhar said to do. Step back to three steps. Right? But now, by the time you step back to three steps, you're saying, kedusha already. So he says here, and he's quoting Sharachumipim bikiyosim bikiyosim bikiyosim bikiyosim bikiyosim bikiyosim bikiyosim bikiyosim bikiyosim bikiyosim bikiyosim. Right away, and why right away? What's the rush? Because you're supposed to say kedusha in the place where you said, dishmaness, that's what you were saying, loma kedusha. Okay, now, let me just, before we go on, there's an interesting thing that he adds here. The arhajurun is not happy with this. The arhajurun says, wait a minute, the kedayil of dalad amas, we said, is a minimum, alpida gimara. And the gimara is very upset at a person who runs, when you're running right, what are you doing? You're running away, and then you're running right back. So he says, no, do not go right back, until the hiri of dalad amas. And he says, interesting thing. Ah, in the meantime, the husband is saying the kedushishim hoboilam. Okay, so he's saying the kedushim hoboilam. The real kedush starts at kedush kedush. So in the time that he's saying the kedushim hoboilam, right, you wait, your kedayil of dalad amas, and then you come back by the time he gets the kedush. It's all he takes to it. Well, okay, so you want to know what I think the arhajurun will tell you, say it where you are, just like if you get caught, right? Sometimes you weren't paying attention, and all of a sudden you hear everybody saying kedush kedush. And you're in the middle of, you're asking for a shidah or something. So what do you do? You say kedush kedush. You're not an answer, and you're not an answer, but you'll stay where you are. But I, that's what I think the arhajurun would say. But in Mr. Boer, the interesting Mr. Boer, he says it can go right back. See, in terms of the swarlets, correct, but the arhajurun doesn't like it or pee the gamarra. In terms of the swarra, everybody knows why you're going back. You know, you're not rushing back, you know, stam, you're going back because you want to say kedusha. It's obvious. But they are sure how that you can't go against the deen and the gamarra. The deen and the gamarra says you have to wait till you hear of dalad amas. That's the minimum. But anyway, the Mr. Boer, Mr. Boer, Mr. Boer, you can do like Mr. Boer, and he says, that's what you should do. Oh, I wrote it down. I just want to just check something. And he, and it's clogged. He says, "Ain le vato dine de de demarra mi pneise, muta shi yigmo a kedusho be mocho shi posa." If you stock, that's what you'll do. Velloyar somi aat, ulla hala pakhois, yam tingi de heil of dalad amas. Vahur ji ochalaamachimachid ya shaats de kodush. De shaam must de la tusho eit kodusho. Aas sha nahra kasheil. Okay. In the beginning, you have to say the words kodush kodush kodusho is the husband of a few. No, mita tippo, are you saying? No, mita tippo. As long as they're still saying. If they're not the last word, you're still kaparai. Yes? And we learned that. You can still kaparai. As long as they're still saying you can join them. Even though they're up to melochala, it's kodush kodush. You still said, that's called you said kedusho with the tippo. Yeah, that's all right. Yeah. Okay. A lot of times the lady's diving in the car. Yeah, let them know. They should also step back in their car. How do you step back in the car? Whenever you, you with your feet. In, in the car. I don't, I don't see, I don't see, you can't stop the car. Move the car back. And the miles are now. Well, no, no, so let me just think, just one minute. Just one minute. Who is going like this? Yeah, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay. Okay. Okay. I read the questions. I'm not going to answer your question directly. Well, I'll tell you something interesting about that. I have a question directly. I remember once told you that my kavusa, I remember the album was "Hangaprach" and he wrote me a letter. Then he asked Abaryashiv, let her talk before her, that if a person can't step back, what should he do? Now, Abaryashiv advised, move your feet a little bit. He held that if you move your feet a little bit, that's, you want to indicate it, you finish diving. Because as long as it just don't move back, you're officially still all made with Naomi. Now, you, you're really finished. Let's say in the case of somebody behind you, you know, so he said, do that. Now, he's not saying that's remarkable to show us, please. But he did say, it might really help. There was a miler in doing that. So it seems so much on his armament that he did not agree, because he has a different child. By the way, as we just mentioned here, the three steps is important. It's part, it's just like you have to bow four times in the Shmaness way. So you take three steps back, that's quite okay. Evan and Ifta Marabo, that's a very important part. That's how you finish the audience with the king. You know, you're speaking to Abaryashiv. You finish, you have to step back, three steps. There are carrots. Otherwise, it's, it's, it's almost like the lot of things are almost like he didn't dive in. Because he didn't dive in with the papa, there are carrots, like he didn't dive in. So now, here's an interesting question. First of all, let me tell you what Ramocha writes in the chubai. I think I mentioned here. In, in all the chubai, I looked at it again. In all the chubai, I'm sim, sim, and dala, and I like dala, sim, and I am. The Ramocha writes like this. Somebody had a habanina that since, according to the takhanas, a gimara, why is the haasan diving twice? Well, what do you have to dive in twice for? Right? So according to the gimara, at the end of Mesakasoshoshana, the only reason the haban is diving in twice, the first time is preparation. You saw that philosophy. You got to remember, they didn't have cedurum in the time of Khazal. Didn't have, didn't have cedurum. So the haasan, most of the time he was diving in the arpere. That's why he had to have a good haasan. He has to be baki. People who were baki, nude, nude, feeler, there were people who did not feeler. So he was marching them. At any rate, that's what the gimara says. Once, however, that he's doing it, his yaytse de schmoness, right, with that first schmoness, he is yaytse. So somebody had a habanina, so maybe he's standing there for the almond. Why do you have to step back three steps? Let me just stand there, right? When it's time to decide how the haasan shots. So you'll start with the haasan shots, where they have to step back for its only preparation, right? So Haasan said no. It's Meir Karadin. He says it's a ramba. You look up to ramba, you say the ramba says glo. And that's it. So that's the haalar. And so therefore, there was somebody who didn't do it, Haasan said it's also what he did. Haasan has to step back with three steps. And if he didn't, it was also what he did. But they yaytse. You have to tell you that. They were yaytse. Haasan shots in the tradition. You're yaytse, but it was wrong. Now comes, so here in the Liechshlomo, he has a very interesting question. And it's probably nogeya in a lot of shoals on Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur. If Rosh Hashanah is the shoal is crowded. The haasan, he has a time when he's supposed to start. They gave 15 minutes, whatever they give, all right? Now a lot of people are taking much longer. Rosh Hashanah Yom Kippur, they have what they, what they, what the doubt before said. Especially your video. If a person could be saying a very long video, some people have these long video. He takes a while. Anyway, he's standing there and he can't step back. Haasan. Now we said yesterday, Haasan gave a naysa, go to the side. Over here, it's a bit stuck. So this way, here you go. This way, let's say there'll be a Haasan if you need that video over here, right? So he can't have a person, so that way he can't go. Somebody might be down here, right over here. I don't know what to do with him, but he's stuck, right? So Haasan says like this, "Shleer tibu shi siem tibu ala sai." We talk, haasan haasu ala shaat, it's time to start. "Thier tibu ala" I mean, you can't keep a hearing. I'm supposed to keep a tibu waiting. "Arshamehaal of omidadam shanaim ispalaal. Lo yafsea gimabseam." So he says, "Don't do anything. Just stand where you are." "Alayom al-Ose shalom," I listen to this. Everybody knows, when do you say, "Ose shalom?" After the three steps. He says, "No, he can't take the three steps back." There's somebody behind him and he has nowhere to go. "Ose shalom," he has to say. Interesting. "Oma ose shalom, riyas tila hazaga." "Wiyatee de hoebu siyoisab missof hazaga satsilah." And he'll be right say, when he steps back after the hazaga sashats, I hope the guy will be finished by that, after the hazaga sashats, he will take the three steps there and down be right here, be right there. That's what he says. He'll be right there with that. Now, "Wiyoma," and then he'll say the yirotsan. That's also very interesting. The yirotsan, she wannabe samiktif mimeo yumaynu, that he should wait till he steps back at the end of hazaga sajat. "Nem, aha haziyas." "Amoishu remitenah?" Yes, because I don't think Amoishu's motto to go in front of somebody. Amoishu's not gonna have to do that. So, I would say he would, because it's not be active. It's not be active. But now, but this is interesting. So, that's what he brings here. And, I mean, "Gambesu yumah hazaga bakadish tushkava." Oh, wait a minute. I'm sorry. I forgot I saw this. Let's say the guy is still dominant behind him. He talks about him. "Gambesu yumah hazaga bakadish tushkava daimes bakal makara." "Yidmah hazakadish viyomah wa sasholam," without stepping back. And he says, "Vivsa akhnash hiseimahra, he has to wait there." So, this guy finishes dominant. Then he'll take the three steps. No three steps in front of it. That's what he says here. "What about the taking office of the family?" "What?" "What?" "So, again, I'm telling you again." "If...oh, oh, oh, oh, wait, wait. Now, wait, you have a good point. Wait." No, no. So, it could be. I can't tell you what the bakadish tushkava would say. I can't figure it out. But it could be like this. There's a big much like, if it's a mitzvah, that you need to do. It's very important for the kahanim. It can happen for sasholam. The kahanim must come, you know, kahanim. They have to go dukh, mitzvah, hiseim. They have to go wash their hands. They have to do it. So, if we mark a mitzvah, the postkim... I'm not saying...I can't tell you what the sasholam is. The postkim amate. Right? And similarly, if a person, you know, in the middle of davening, he has to go to the bathroom. He has to go. I mean, so you'll have to step in front of somebody. He doesn't have a choice. Right? So that...or it's a mitzvah. They say, so that maybe he can do. Unless...unless they don't need him. I mean, it's happened before. We have it to shout in our minion. Sometimes the ball feeler is too weak. He can't carry the safe attack. So the dabakir takes the safe attack. If you take it out, he just says, you know, he says, "In the dabakir, he doesn't want to take a chance to carry the safe attack." Right? So, in such a carry situation, but if he needs to do it in a kahanim, he would... he probably would be mutter. Now, so...so this is what he says here. But the interesting thing is that in the footnotes... What? Yeah. But in the footnotes, he says...he says... Let me see if we can find it here. I think it's right here. He says, um... I think he mentions here once again. He holds that moving your feet doesn't help. He doesn't even hold you to do it. I don't see it here, but... maybe he says it elsewhere. He does...he doesn't agree with this thing that moving your feet accomplishes something. Maybe it's here, once again. Okay, anyway, but...but I think that... he holds that, that won't do anything. Okay, fine. All right, let's continue. That's that. Now, let's take a look. Did we do the one before, one second? Um... All these people that have to step out. They say there's a shalom in that year or so. Well, again, all the painless people that have to step out... Yeah. ... illegally. Yeah. So, they say there's a shalom, but not a year and so. According to that, should they say there's a shalom... Well, let me say...that's totally in a different shalom. Yeah, okay. If they have enough, if they have time, if they have time, if they... but really, that there's another interesting question. We discussed that. I thought we discussed this. Let's see in the middle of... you're in the middle of a tachnunim, or you finish tachnunim, and there's somebody behind you. So, you're allowed to go. In other words, stepping in front of somebody. You can't step back. Your work is behind you. Let's say you're allowed to go. But you never chance to step to three steps. So, they say you can go. You don't have to. You don't have to. I'm keeping waiting. All right? They have to open our encourage. Go. Now, the question is standing over there. So, you didn't step to three steps back. Right? You didn't take your three steps. So, now, when they're finished, what do you do? Should you step? You're here already for a minima canoe. So, you step back over here. Right? Oh, no. You go back to your place, and you step... So, I think of high melt, you don't have to go back. Wherever you are, you can do it. But others help now. You still... you come back, you'll step to three steps. Just like the Chasm, the Chasm takes out to say, the story comes back. Right? He steps to three steps after the skull. Okay. So, it gets a little complicated. Now, let's see. Did we do this? Oh, no, no. We didn't do all the missions. No. We did. What's the problem? Mr. Brewer says that? What? If he gets called up to... Does Mr. Brewer say that you can step out? He might here. Didn't we do that? No, members of Mr. Brewer. I think yes. He might be Mr. Brewer. Anyway, if you need to... I think so. It might be Mr. Brewer. Okay. Anyway, I just... I don't remember. Okay. Now, next question. Let's go back a little bit. It says over here... Okay. I think we did, Mr. Brewer, not to go back right away. But take a look at Rass. I don't know if we did Rass. So, Rass says... You don't worry until... until Kedusha. Now. Now, this is no gate to Rass. My motion asked yesterday or two days. In my... Rass says... "I know Rass. I cannot go back to this place till Kedusha." "I will not go back to Rass. There is no gate to go back." He says... "I will not go back." He says... "I will not go back." He says... "I will not go back." He says... "I will not go back." He says... "I will not go back." He says... He says... He says... He says... He says... to be in a shishib sis, this is where the problem starts. The mangan of all beings that some say it's not three steps, it's six steps, three steps back and three steps forward. Six steps and it's learned from the malachim, learned from the malachim. Dain agime l'achoyra v'gimmu be sure of un kaimu. So therefore you must go back. You can't just take a douche away. Aqain talk, l'achim, kaimu be gimmu, see is the fun of. Now this is the famous question. Umitamza k tas makpidim, the veltas makpid, a lot of people. They don't want anybody passing in front of them before they go back to three steps. Shilohiav, or dum'lith name, or chomdimum opnam shaposa, shilohiav's exe, shishib sis same. They don't want any interruptions because they they're learning it's one unit and it's much better it might be. So if somebody, now why if somebody works in front of them you can't combine the two with a different child, but that's what they're naming on. If somebody works in front of them, they'll interrupt the six steps and we made it, they won't get the mile of the six steps. Avamikom opam, because of this aqpid that they have a dakpidosum, tell him, they make a mistake, what's the mistake, kishiroyim, kishiroyt al avallifnaiyam, you see somebody wants to come in front of them, they must write back, they must write back to their place because they don't want this guy interrupting. Yimaimim, marim, laksolim, kreimam, kreidim, shayashtim, ashatsat fila. Now they already had the four amis, but they were still waiting, but he says, he says, they do that, he says the mistake, tell him, because that is me ikadim, he calls it me ikadim, not to go back till the cousin starts. Now in the gammaga, it doesn't say, it doesn't say the gammaga, it's a riff, I told you, it's a riff in a rush to wait that long, but Mr. Borz says, it's me ikadim. But the cousin started and didn't say the gammaga. No, then you were allowed to, no, Lahatrila is supposed to wait till kidushu, but yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah, if he started there, he would go back, yeah, why not, no, yeah. Can somebody who wants to come in front of someone else with the information, is he interrupting anything? It's not going to shake you. Well, he's doing an isa. He's interrupted his isa. Yeah, yeah, he didn't interrupt his feeler, but it's a it's a bizayan in the sense that the shrina is there. He walked, right, the one, there's two shot to him while you can't walk in front of somebody who's davani. One is your shtami is kavani. So some boys can learn if that's the reason, if he has his eyes closed or he davans with his talus over there, he doesn't see you going in front of him. No problem, your shtami is kavani. He knows you anyways. The other reason with the shtami is a pop. So I have one third. Also, it gives it the answer. I think I mentioned it here. I have one third that since it's two reasons in the basic isa. So it's esophic. So esophically cooler, right? Let's make the feeler. Yeah, if you don't have both reasons, let's say he has his you don't you're not staring. But anyway, it's not I don't know what it does to the feeler, but it's not the right thing to do. This is what people think. Listen, it's not me ikadim. And why have somebody steps or so what? So somebody stepped in front. So why is it bringing it down? It brings down to the people I read. I'm going to read you again. [speaking in foreign language] But me tamsek tamsmakpidim. He doesn't say you have to be makpid. People are makpid. And because they're makpid, they come to do something they shouldn't be doing. That's why it's bringing it. And maybe they are right. Maybe they are right in the heart-father, but not to the extent that you're vibing your adenas or the wholesome remake aden. It's a nice thing maybe. But okay, doesn't know where I is. That's what he brings here. Okay, now so let's go up to you one more. One more year. Le Fochos. Oh, so he starts the schlieck's symbol. So he says you. I am the bar. She is came to La Chatela 293. [speaking in foreign language] Unless you could be in somebody's way over there. People want to go, whatever. So then go back. [speaking in foreign language] What are you standing there for? Whatever. [speaking in foreign language] We mentioned this already outside. [speaking in foreign language] And I mentioned it a lot sooner. [speaking in foreign language] When they start the beauty. Okay, now, okay, we'll have to stop here. But tomorrow we're going to discuss a very interesting hiddish that the same den applies if you're doubting by yourself, which is a hiddish. We'll have to explain that.