The boys have moved into their new studio shed. This week we consider elderly Greek women, why we go red and whether Ratatouille should be more realistic.
Boys Gone Wild
Boys Gone Wild | Episode 239: Ratatouille
(upbeat music) - Hello. - Hi. - Hello and welcome back to a very special episode of Boys Gone Wild. We are in the new studio. - Look at it. - Probably looks quite disappointing. Saying there's been quite a lot build up to the studio. - I think it sort of looks like, I guess like a hostage video would happen here. - Yeah, kind of a nicest, but heading one. - Well, it looks like there's bullet holes in the back here. - Yeah. - This isn't the final design of the studio. - We haven't spent months on this. - No. - We've been in for a few days. - A few days, tidied up. This is our friend shed, but we don't want us to call it the shed. - Yeah, I have no idea why, because it's exactly what it is. But we'll slowly episode by episode. Hopefully this will grow. You'll grow with us. - Yeah, yeah, it's a space. It's imperfect. Oh, it's kind of a perfect for it. It's nice, it's a nice size. We can do whatever the balls we want with it. - We could, you know, we could do helicopter dicks. - Water feature. - We could do bum ramming. - I met more with the design rather than the activities we do in there. We could bum ram in our old houses. - Yeah, but we don't know. - No one could stop us bum ramming in here. - I actually, I disagree. I think even more so. - It's more likely that we'd get stopped bum ramming or helicopter dicking. - What do you think Izzy would be like? - Because Izzy and her flatmates would be like, I thought you were using this for a podcast, you know, not bum ramming. - Well, yeah, so it's kind of a dream scenario where our friend has very kindly learnt us the shed. It's just great. I guess the downsides is that don't you feel like they don't quite understand what they've let themselves in for a little bit. - A little bit. - A little bit. - I mean. - 'Cause they're excited by the idea of it, but they don't know the reality of us traipsing a different hereeve of autistic men every week. You know, we've had Pete looking in, we've got Charlie, we've got many of them. - Yeah. - And there's anointed, there's not a side entrance, so we are fully walking through their home. - Yeah. Well, ideally it's just one walk in and one walk out. - Yes. - Which I can manage, I just worry about you and everyone else. - Yeah. And I think the main thing, I think all we find, the main thing is the toilet situation. - Right, go on, yeah. - So like, we'll get bottles of water for the fridge. - Yeah. - So we won't have to use their taps or anything. We maybe sort ourselves out so we don't have to use their kitchen really. - Yeah. - That's fine. I guess the only non-negotiable is that we will have to use their personal toilet. - That's true, that is the issue. - And if we have guests on, then there's four men. - And the toilets are, the toilet is right next to the rooms. It's not like you can pop in by the kitchen. It's you've gotta go downstairs. Charlie's already walked into people's sleeping. - It's not time at stage. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But Charlie seems like it comes from a family where, you know. - There's no locks on those. - No locks on your doors. - Do you have locks on your doors in the, on the bathroom doors in your family home? - Yeah. - We have a superficial lock that me and my brothers share. - What do you mean my superficial? - It doesn't. - What do you mean share? (laughing) Do you think people go around with individual locks? Like padlocks in their trousers. That every time they go to use the toilet, they just slip it on. - If you try and get in, if you really wanted to get in, you can. And you people do, but we share a loop. - We need to talk about the new studio. - But what do you mean? - We really want to try and get it. - We share a loop. - Yeah. - And sometimes, you know, someone will be using it, but the other one wants to like brush their teeth or get stuff. - Okay, fine. - And, and so they'll, they'll ram it open. - But I'll ram it, maybe. - Maybe. - Yeah. - I don't know. - So when we got a producer in, I think a big, the big idea was basically someone, so we don't really think about kind of non-creative stuff. - Yeah. - To sort of streamline the whole process. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But I think what's happened is we've got someone who's more insane than us to be a producer. We sent Charlie out to find a skip to get rid of some of the rubbish in here. - He kind of sent himself out. - Yeah. - I mean, he did find one, but he kind of went on this venture around East London. - And then on the group chat, with it after about two minutes, there was a video, which I probably could probably get the video on. - Yeah, we'll get the video on. (laughing) - Of him in an elderly woman's house. - So again. - What nationality do you want? - I'm English. - You English? - Yeah. - What are you calling? I'm from Greece. - You're from Greece? - Yeah. - Nice. - I ran into the Greek old lady in the local office, 'cause I live very near here as well. She also was asking me to read the milk to see when it goes off. - Once you open the door. - Yeah, which I, so it seems like this old lady has come from Greece, and has just arrived. - And doesn't have any clue about-- - Doesn't have any family or friends here, and doesn't speak English. So it's sort of going from person. - She's tripping up on some very small hurdles here, using a plug socket and buying milk from the other-- - Yeah, I feel the date you don't need to speak English to know when the milk-- - No, no. - You should be doing okay. When she was asking when does it go off? - Yeah. - Is there a Greek number? - When I'm in Greece, I can work out when the milk goes off, I think. But you've opened the door, both of you now, and I'm gonna have to go and close it. - Yeah, what's that? - Just being like, look, we've had enough. (laughing) - Can you leave our producer alone? - I leave my two autistic friends alone, because you're leading them down the wrong track. (laughing) Yeah, the studio, so we're gonna, you know, it's not gonna look like this forever, relax, don't go crazy, but we can do with it whatever we want, 'cause it's our friend owns this house, and they're in owns the shed. So we're gonna make it a proper podcast studio, which is exciting. - You can open up for suggestions, but I feel that will always be terrible suggestions. - It's pointless, it's pointless. Give 'em some of the questions we get at Q and A, let's just leave it. But yeah, no, we'll make it our own, and you'll slowly see the progress of it. - Last night, I went to Alfie's dad's memorial, Steve Brown. And so I was asked to go to this yesterday, basically, BB had forgot. Alfie, for those of you who don't know, is BB's sisters, baby father, right? - Baby daddy. - They have four kids together, and his dad sadly died. - And comedian Anne has been a guest on the podcast. - Twice. And she said, oh, the memorial things tonight. Fuck, she completely forgot and told me like three hours before, you need to come with me. And I thought it would be like, for some reason, I thought it would be 25 people standing around an urn, all saying nice things. I don't know why. - Yeah, that's kind of- - Or like a quiet reception-y type thing. - A memorial service, it wasn't a funeral. - No, it was a memorial, so yeah. - It was like somebody put on the local paper, being like this person's died. I mean, local, local paper. - In my head, that's where my head went to. - 25 people standing around an urn saying nice things. - So you were preparing your urns. - Seeing as I'd never met Steve, I thought it was inappropriate for me to go, 'cause I thought it was 25 people around an urn. It was a thousand people at the Savoy Theatre, one of those amazing things I've ever seen in my life. I had no idea how- - Well, he was- - Well, he was a, he basically wrote all of any music you've heard in comedy from 10 years ago- - Yeah. - For like a 20-year period was written by Steve Brown. - Okay. - You know, like the Harry Hill theme tune, would you know that, TV burp? - Yeah. - You probably would know if you heard- - Not if it's up my head, but I couldn't recite it. - Any music in Alan Partridge is Steve Brown. - So you just kind of like- - So you've been around- - He wrote musicals, Tony Blair, the musical, this one called Spend, Spend, Spend. Would you know that? I don't know. - No, sorry. - So it was one of the most insane line-ups, 'cause he, and I think this is quite rare, 'cause we were talking about this, I was talking about this in another comedian saying, if like one of us died, it would just be loads of podcasts going on. I don't feel people would have the same sort of breadth of like- - No. - He was just in a very unique place where he had music, comedy, dancers. It was just such an extraordinary role for the people. So the line-up, it was hosted by Harry Hill, right? - Great start. - And you wouldn't expect him to thrive in a funeral kind of memorial service setting in some ways. His comedy doesn't exactly lend itself to a memorial service. - Well, it was very like the whole thing, right? - Yeah. - It's still at Savoy Theatre people. It's a very like, they're putting on a fucking show. It's not, there's not really any sadness. - There's no sadness. - Not really. They kind of did all that at the funeral. - Yeah, so this is a celebration. - It was a complete celebration as well. And there's just fans there who are just there to- - And just heard about it. - Yeah. - So Harry Hill, what do you, honest thoughts of what do you think about Harry Hill from what you know about him? - Bit silly, bit too silly, probably. - I don't know. I know he's done stuff outside of TV burp and everything, but he always does the Harry Hill character really, doesn't he? - And so it feels a bit like, I don't know, almost hack or like not hack, but just a bit much. - Yeah, a bit. - And I definitely had this feeling about Harry Hill, but every comic you speak to is like, live, he's one of the greatest acts you've ever seen. - Have you seen him live? - I'd never seen him live before. - Yeah. - What do you see him on the Bill of Life? - Hilarious. - But I don't want to ruin one of his jokes, but I'm gonna, 'cause it's so, he's like, he's just the silliest guy ever, but it is absolutely brilliant. And he's also a genius. He like, went to Oxford. He's like this, a brilliant man as well. He had this one thing where he pointed at someone in the audience and he said, "Stand up." And he says, "Say quacks." And then he goes, "Quack, say quack, say quack, say quack." "Now keep it going." And the guy's just going, "Quack, quack, quack." He just, "Help me get bread." He starts belting this man saying, "Quack." In this amazing thing. He was absolutely... So he stopped like that. He was absolutely brilliant. And so there was, you know, there was lots of his musical numbers. - This is all during the memorial service. I'd like to remind everyone. - Yeah, I don't want to stress that it was a, look, but it was like a retrospective of his life. It really, it didn't have like a sombre vibe that much at all. But the line up, you had Ian Colshaw, the impressionist, then Rory Bremner. - No. - Do you know who Rory Bremner is? Have you heard that name? - I might have. - Yeah. And then out of nowhere, Grace and Perry runs on and does a little number. - What? (laughing) - And then Stuart Lee comes out. (laughing) And does just absolutely, just specific Stuart Lee-esque routine. - Yeah. - Like, it looked like it was telling like a sincere story and it turned into just like a very classic story. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Written just for there. - Just for this, yeah. Wow. - And he said at the end, yeah, that was the first time that worked. (laughing) Blang, he'd done the specific Steve Brown routine or brother country. And then Steve Coogan came out and did Alan Partridge. Did this song that he did with Bjork about a short time affair with my au pair? - Yeah. - So you got to see that vibe. - Jesus Christ. - And then, yeah, Alfie hosted, and there's a couple of musical numbers. But yeah, it was absolutely fucking, I was just blown away. It was insane. - It's like a variety show. - Yeah, for the death of both. - And I just, I don't know I did that. I was gonna watch that that night. I just thought I was gonna be standing around and heard. And it was just more like a celebration of that generation of comics as well. You saw that whole like, it was basically all of our parents' generation. A lot of the kind of stars from that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - All that in force. And I guess that is, if you die early, you do get the best show. - Yeah, because there's enough people still alive to participate in it. - Yeah, 'cause it was a tragic and far too soon death. - Yeah. - I mean, I guess the benefit is the memorial concert is bang. - It's a big one, yeah. 'Cause if you live till like '95, then it's like, your powers just don't have them. - Yeah, Coogan's not got any more. (laughing) Harry heals on the decline. If that's possible, for what? What it sounds like. It's like comedic genius. I've embarrassed myself a few times recently. I went to go and see a play. (laughing) It's not a good start, either. I went to go see a play, my friend's friend was in it, who she knows from drama school. The play was not to my liking, particularly. It was very what you'd expect from a devised piece of people who've just come from drama school. I mean, plays are already bad. So when they're done badly, I feel. (laughing) - Yeah, I mean, I don't-- - Good plays are bad. - I don't always agree that good plays are bad, but when plays are bad, plays are pretty bad. But yeah, it was, there was, you know, it's like throw a dart at a dart board with different classic themes for drama school women to tackle when they were all in there. - What, periods? - Yep. (laughing) That was actually what it was called. (laughing) - Bullying. - Yeah, there was some bullying. - Yeah. - Well, there was bullying rape. - Yeah, a Christ. - Let's be inism and-- - Christ. - Yeah. - It's like the book I'm reading. - How far are you through that? - I haven't read it since we've last talked. - I knew that would be the end. It happens anyway, where you'll read, you'll just about get through one book, and then for the second one, you'll know where you're near as excited. You feel like you've done your quota for the year. I knew you were never gonna make it back on it. (laughing) - No, I'll come back to it. - Yeah, but I'll just, I think maybe change books. - No, it's good book, it's good book. I'm learning a lot, it's good, it's good. - Well, you learned a lot a month ago. - Yeah, I haven't learned anything since. - But anyway, so we were hanging out with the cast after, and it was kind of a tough sell anyway, 'cause they all knew each other. They all came from drama school. So there was a lot of, you know, there was a lot of talk. And I didn't, you know, obviously the same congratulations. I'm not a moron, just 'cause I didn't enjoy the play. It doesn't mean I need to bring that energy there. But there was a lot of talking, all of them. It was hard to, you know, assert my presence into that. - Your dominance. - My dominance was the only man there. - Listen to me, ladies. - They weren't listening. But no, 'cause it got to the point where I was just standing with a beer, just listening for like 10, 15 minutes. - And it's like, I've already sat through an hour and a half. - And now I've got listening to you. (laughing) - No, now I feel it's my turn for you to fucking listen to me. - I've got something, I've got some thoughts about the fucking play. But I was standing there and I was like, this fine. 'Cause they were talking about drama that had happened at drama school. So there was teachers. Hold on. - That's what it says on the tune. - No, well wait. (laughing) You're stepping on it. (laughing) You're stepping on it. You're stepping on it. - They were, they, so there was like the things with the teacher, you know, classic stuff. Teacher in a pupil, but not like, not like a pedophile, the drama school was, you know, a bit older. But they were talking about different teachers and different classmates who had gone and it was very much a gossip catch-up session between friends. And I was the only person who wasn't a friend. - Didn't know anyone they were talking about. - No, not a clue. And they were trying to catch me up and I was just kind of half nodding. But I wasn't, they were only doing it very briefly for politeness. So I was there nodding and thinking, well, I've got to do something here. I've got to come in with a dazzle at least, particularly the longer the silence goes on, the better my line has to be. (laughing) - Well, when I come in. So they were talking about all this gossip and stuff that happened from drama school. And then there was a lull in the conversation. - Sure. - And I thought, there it is. This is my time. I'm going to summarize their entire 15 minute conversation with a punch line that they didn't even know that they needed. So my plan was to say, well, you can't spell drama school without a bit of drama. Not my best, but still something. - It's still a bit of drama. - It would have killed it that far. - It also is not the right way of saying that. - Still works. - You can't spell drama school without spelling drama. - No. - It's not without a bit of drama. - No, but you, what's fun? - You can't spell drama school without a bit of drama. - Yeah, that's fun. That works technically doesn't work. - Yeah, it does 'cause drama school, it's only a bit of the word. It still works technically. - Without a bit, yeah. - What do you want to say? You can't spell drama school without spelling drama. That would have been gone down like a lead balloon. You fucking moron. So you can't spell and it would have killed, full stop. - It was a, there were drama school crowd, the vibes were high. The plan was, the plan was, I'm going to come in, that's going to be my big moment. Well ladies, you can't spell drama school without a bit of drama. Instead, I went, well ladies, you can't smell drama, I'll forget it. I just really went forget it, then I just walked to the toilet, just went inside the toilet for a bit. It was one of the most embarrassing things I've ever done. Handstand anything for 15 minutes and just went, well ladies, you can't smell drama. - So they've just been talking about gossip and drama. - Yeah, this guy has been saying nothing. - It goes, well ladies, you can't smell drama. Goodbye. - And it was genuinely, they didn't, they were so awkward that they didn't even bother to like engage with it, because they didn't know me enough. I didn't cope with it well at all, because I was already a bit jaded from the play and the full on conversation. - And they were all the cast of the play, right? - Yeah, two of them, I think. - Or maybe even one. But they'd all known each other, et cetera. So I was already a bit jaded from that and then I just couldn't even be bothered to explain what just happened. - Did you congratulate them on the play? - Yeah, of course you got it. - You got her. - Some people, yeah, I'm the biggest. I'll tell people what, I'll tell anyone that is brilliant. - Yeah, absolutely. - I can't do too much. I'm going, oh, it was really good. Do you really? - I'd say absolutely. - You were really good. - Astonishing. - Clearly bombed. - Astonishing. - Oh, that's fantastic, wow. - But then I don't know, I've also had, it's been in a couple of embarrassing moments for me. It was after a long day of something and I remember my hair being a bit fucking mental. I was out with it and just a bit tired. And I was just, I've been a bit self-conscious. I was like, I have, just wanting-- - I need to spend more on haircuts. - I need to spend even more on my haircuts. That's the conclusion I came to. Though I was at a choose station, just being a bit self-conscious. I was like, I just want to, you know what, we just want to get off the tube, you want to get out and put a candle on unless it doesn't boobly, but I couldn't. 'Cause I had to do the journey. And then I was kind of slung up against a wall with my AirPods in. And then a girl comes over and goes, mouth something, and I go, well, I'll tip my headphones off, she goes, you're all really funny. So she clearly recognized me for something. But in my self-conscious, whatever state, I just went, why? (laughing) And then she was like, she was like, your podcast is getting just like, oh my, sorry. (laughing) It's the best answer I've ever done to be. So I have a regular, you're already funny. Why? Like genuinely pissed off, I was like, why? Joe Peshin, good fellas. Yeah, why? It was like, what the fuck you, oh God, shit, sorry. So that was in the space of a couple of weeks. Did you go red? Did you go red for both of you? 'Cause you're a big, you're a big red guy. Yeah, Andrew, when he gets embarrassed, goes like a cartoon drawing of an embarrassed person. But yeah, you're very active blood vessels. What's the fucking evolution of the purpose of that? Pisses me off. Well, maybe you're the co-inservice so long because they got the abilities to convey embarrassment. Well, maybe like, I imagine it's like, predators in the wild. Oh, a tiger jumps out of me. (laughing) I blow up like a balloon and they're like, we'll leave this one. This guy's a mess. Well, I guess going red, it sort of implies poisonous, maybe less, do you know what I mean? Like, maybe the, it seems like less. This one seems a bit like, I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure it's a, I'm not sure it's a pretty reflex. Yeah, I don't know, it must. What is the purpose of it? I hate how it happens. It happens too often. I think I've got incredibly reactive, like my goosebumps. Goosebumps, yeah. Goosebumps, 'cause it's almost getting worse, the quantity of goosebumps that I have, and then getting red at the same time. It's like, I frequently am red and have goosebumps. Some psychologists believe blushing is a defense mechanism that helps people avoid conflicts. That is interesting. That is kind of what we were saying. It's not as ridiculous. Yeah, yeah. Well, not with tigers. We have a human. Yeah. Maybe it makes someone feel a bit sorry for you. Yeah, but I guess you have to establish that that's what that means. I'm not exactly loving my genetics. I'm just fucking a bitch. This bitch in a savannah, which is like... A long line of bitches. Yeah, a long line of curling bitches. It was only, it was only one more leg of fucking deer, and I'm just like... Well, we should fight, I'll just have it. But we can't hit them. We can't hit that, look at them. I guess it makes... We can't hear that tomorrow. I tell you what it is, it makes you look more like a baby, so it's cuter, and we have like the natural response for like the red rosy cheeks of a baby. They look cute, don't eat the baby. Don't eat the baby. That's why we find babies so cute, so we don't eat them or kill them. Now, that's true. That's true. What you're saying is essentially true, but the way you're saying it is far too dramatic. We babies aren't cute, so we don't not eat them. Sort. They're to illicit care. Illicit care, fine. Not eat. Again, you were right with what you were saying earlier, but you were talking about predators and tigers, where it's about human conflict. Babies, clip it, babies are cute, so that we don't eat or hurt them. Yeah, oh, that's sort of, yeah. No, no, that's 100% so we want to look after them. There's gonna be that kind of instinct anyway, but there's, you know, we've learned to see them. I think we've said it the wrong, which is a lot of any gold we get on this podcast. It's normally us touching on something true, really badly. I think kind of everything we've been saying is actually kind of spot on for the last seven minutes. It's quite rare. I was gonna say two days, and all that means. Any other embarrassing moments? No, kind of. You're gonna have blush corner with them? You're gonna blush corner. Oh! They break face. So, my flatmate and our good friend Matt, do you want to explain what you, everything you sort of know about Matt's injury? I thought you were gonna say Matt and I was kind of excited to do. Can you explain what you know about Matt's injury? So, our friend Matt was in a football accident. He went in for a slide tackle, or was slide tackled, slide tackled, I presume. No, he just went in for a slide. 50/50, went for a ball, and injured his hamstring severely. Probably the thing is he went to, he went to A&E with you, and then the doctors were like, they didn't immediately know what it was, he had to go for an X-ray and stuff, but it was either gonna be a tear, it might have been, he might have torn his ACL, or just done his hamstring. And then there was a, he went to the doctors. X-ray. X-ray, and then he's still waiting on the results for that. Where's the X-ray and they said he tore his ACL? His tore his ACL. And then there was, then they booked him in for the doctor's appointment that was gonna happen in, I think, like seven weeks time, which is a long time to be hobbling a bow. And then they accidentally put in the day on the appointment for 2025, so that when he rang up, they were like, "Oh, you were booked him for 2025?" Well, that's a mistake. And then they, he thought, he said to cancel that appointment and re-book another one, they didn't re-book another one, they just canceled his because they said they had to mass cancel because it's so far to the moment. That's all I know. He also has identified as an ACL sufferer for a while as well. Has he? Well, he said that since he's known he's torn his ACL, he's found this whole community of people who have torn their ACL. So he's not totally about this. So like people just, 'cause he's got the, he had the, I don't know what it's called. Brace, brace on his knee. Lots of people come up and said ACL, "That happened to me too." It seems the most common injury. It's seemingly fiber-side basically. It's 'cause it's so severe, do you know what I mean? If I see someone with a green stick fracture in their wrist, I'm not gonna go up and be like, "I've been there." So, baby's brother, tore his ACL was out for six months. My sister's now husband, tore his ACL, was out for similar amount of time. And it does seem this real community that he's found. It's like unlocking players in a game who you can now speak to. Yeah. But they're all have this, and there's like a real community in Brethren. So he went... - Online or whatever? - No, no, he just, so he's at the pub, someone says ACL, "That happened to me." Yeah, you know. - Do you wanna go for a drink? - Sort of, yeah. Sort of when he was at, he went out to France recently. French people like, "Don't you know what I mean?" - Yeah, it's easy. - Yeah. (laughs) - He's on it. - Right. - So he, yeah, and he's not been making a big deal out of it. - I don't actually think he has. - I mean, okay, I'll be... - You live with him now. Well, I mean, the amount that he was, well, 'cause you were gone in Edinburgh for when it was kind of at its worst, and he was still just hobbling about unable to do anything. So I don't, I'm not sure how bad, but in fairness, I then hadn't seen him for like a month, and then popped into the kitchen. I was like, I said, "I've gotta go over how you're doing." And they proceeded to talk to me for five minutes while I was, about as ACL was trying to get out the door. - He just went to the doctors. There's sort of nothing wrong with his leg. - No. - It's definitely not a torn ACL. He probably needs a tiny bit of physio, but it's just like a very, very long time. - Well, he was banging on about surgery. There's nothing wrong with it. - That is fine, probably needs to do a tiny bit of physio. It's absolutely fine. - This is really astonishing to me. - So obviously, that was a problem with the outfit, but it was like, yeah, it was just a little bit... - He's just pulled there. - It was like pulled there, and it just needed a little bit of healing. - I mean, he's limping around like no one's business. - Well, the only, I'm gonna... - You really, I mean, it's a lot about the NHS's fault to be fair, but it is a lot placebo as well, because I think he's felt pretty fine on his leg, but he has been constantly saying it's really weird. If we ever smoke a joint together, he'll be like, it's really where we're on a high. I really like, "No, it's my knee." I just feel it's like a refocus on it, like high performance. - So it's psychosomantic. - I think a lot of it is actually, and he's like, I'm still not ready to cycle, 'cause I just, it hurts a bit. Just fair, it's feeling a lot better, but I still like, I don't wanna push it too much. But yeah, the doctor's slightly absolutely fine. - This is very confusing, because he's had, in fairness, he has been passed around to several different medical professionals who've all given a different opinion. And it is also very matte for him to actually have his ACL torn, I've heard a dosager just say, "Now you're fine." And then he'll have a lifelong injury and not say anything more about it. That's also a quite real possibility. - He must have just like, healed itself. And if it's healed itself, it's not a torn ACL. - Yes. - Right. - I think it's... - The NHS is a disaster. - The NHS is absolutely, the main takeaway is the NHS, I couldn't believe it. And it's like, he'd like arrived even today and like the... - There's something almost right. - The guy who was 20 minutes late, 'cause he was given like a seminar. - Yeah. - If it's, apparently Matt can like see him just talking to loads of other guys, while he's waiting for him to say, "Oh yeah, yeah." - "Oh, you're right, yeah." - Yeah. - Is he like the ACL specialist? - He potentially was the same doctor who's told him he had a torn ACL. - Who's told what? - It's essentially the same. - I think it might be in the same guy. - Maybe he's just said he wasn't that bad. - Maybe medical science has just drastically changed in the last eight weeks. - Well maybe he's like a case study. - Yeah. - Maybe he's a gravity. - Maybe that's why he's given the lecture on. It's astonishing the change we're seeing. But one thing I actually, I think about this story is, I quite like it, even when it's something sad, when you see the news come into your immediate reality. I think it places me in a, on ex, often you read the news, things are quite unaccessible. You know, that happened over there. This is gonna happen which will affect that. It was like, "All right, I don't see it all the time." - It's like immersive theater. - Exactly. Yeah, this, yeah. What way what is? - Well when the news happens to you. - Yeah. - Then it's a bit like, "Oh." - It's like watching something on Telly, and then there's like a-- - I'm like, "Oh yeah, what, that is happening." Do you know what I mean? - Yeah. - It's like, "Oh, with a man, and it's just wait times, et cetera." And then talking to Matt and seeing how fucked it actually is. I was a bit like, "This is quite nice." - Yeah, I agree. - Like when there's problems with the trains, and you try and get on the train, and you know, there's problems, I'm like, "I read about that." I feel like I'm the star of the show. - When you're meshing you Edwards, and he says-- (laughing) - You've got any kiddie porn, and it's like-- - And he says, "Yeah." And he's like, "I'm meeting the guy from the show." - That makes sense. - That's so you. - I've read about that on the news. - It's like meeting Matthew Perry, rest in peace. - Yeah. - And him being like, "Can I be anymore?" - Yeah. - Yeah, that's a very odd reference. - Really odd. I said, "Can I be anymore dead as well?" - Yeah, that was a really weird thing over there. - Really weird, you know. We roll. - Yeah, we do. (laughing) I think one, it's just nice to feel part of something that's real. - Something bigger than yourself. - And something bigger than yourself. - And something bigger than yourself. - And also part of it is like, you read the news often, and now with all the bloody news, you're like, "What's true, what isn't?" - So it's like having some physical profiles. Like, well, you know, I'm not exactly, I know I'm a loose conspiracy theorist, but I wasn't actually saying, the NHS waiting times are perfect, the media are lying. But it's nice to know that at least there's some truth there. So that's what mine is. - With the NHS, it's like, what's still amazing about the system is like going to A&E, even if it's long waiting times, like not having to pay a dime, it's still kind of waiting for that, 'cause you can just get absolute content for-- - And we try. - Yeah. - But then this kind of stuff is when it, it is the appointments actually. - Yeah. - I think they're real fucker. - The old GP. - And just being, it's amazing how they just all have different, and I guess it's like just having a distrust in doctors, where it is like, for some reason, I guess it's now realizing, oh, you're just people just doing a job, you know, sometimes we're not the best at our jobs. - Whoa. - You know, sometimes these-- - Whoa. - These-- - Some episodes are better than I've ever-- - We have never had a bad episode of Boy's Gone One. - Because it's-- - You know, we're serving it up, you know, week after week, you know? - Yeah, yeah. - And that's what a doctor's like. - Yeah, yeah. - Every day you're stepping up to the plate, sometimes you don't deliver. - It is true. - And I guess in my head, you just kind of express the doctor. - The stakes are slightly different between a doctor and us. - Yeah. - I think you've got to probably rock up with your best game a bit more importantly than us. They've also had slightly more training and education than-- - I mean, we went to, I went to the doctor with BV 'cause she gets very scared about things going up her nose. She had to have a camera up her nose. - Right, so that's not why she put the appointment. - Doctor, doctor, I'm scared of things being put up my nose. - No, she annoyingly had to have something put up her nose and was very scared about it. - That's a nightmare. - I feel that, fuck anything going up the schnoz. - Have you ever heard of anything up the schnoz? - No, well, like, you know. - So you needed a camera to go there to check her sinuses, right? - Yeah. - So I came along with her because she gets really scared and I didn't know just how scared she is. So she'd like had a full-- - Panic attack. - Basic panic attack. And it's because, I mean, the camera, it does come out, it does look like a creature from Alien. - Yeah. - It's like this big thing with this long waving arm. - But-- - Did she get an aesthetic in there? Or is it just straight, why I'm, thank you, man. - Straight, well, how did it, it basically, it would feel like a COVID swab going a bit-- - Yeah, I didn't like those. - I didn't like it either. - I didn't like it either. - I didn't like it either. - Do they make you sneeze? - It was quite funny. 'Cause when it was up there and, I mean, she was screaming and her arms and legs were, like, off the ground. - Did you video it? - No, obviously it was quite serious in the moment, but, I mean, I did actually start laughing a little bit because it looks like a scene from Alien. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Where the thing's kind of, 'cause I was like, do you feel that? They show us how I know them. It's like, sort of like a suffragette. - I wasn't expecting the flaring of the legs in-- - It was just, it was the, it was seeing first hand, which probably should be more disturbing than funny, just pure, pure panic. - Yeah. - Like, on adult or rated, I'm gonna scream as loud as possible. - Especially in a controlled environment, where there is nothing to actually fit. - Yeah, I know, save. I know it's much more-- - Yeah, yeah, then you can enjoy it, so. - It's kind of, you know, just not, but it was just pure, like, yeah. She hadn't, it was so in the moment. She's not thinking about anything else. She is just screaming. - You wanted to bring up Ratatouille? - Yes, so I watched Ratatouille this Sunday, and I hadn't watched it in about 10 years. Probably, but yeah, probably about 10 years. And it is a perfect film, right? It's an absolute masterpiece. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - From start, just like, how to tell like a, I don't know, like an accessible story, it hits all of the notes of like a, by the book, a perfect story. - Yeah. - The plates at Spins, they all come together in a magical way. The conflict isn't stressful, which is a big thing. - I know that's a big thing for you. - But I think watching it with adult eyes, it is, I guess you start to really see just half mad. I guess, as a kid, you don't think about the premise so much, but I think watching it with adult eyes, seeing just how insane the premise is, and like, the amount of jumps they make. I'm not saying that you should apply that logic. - Sounds like you are. - So obviously, the kids. - So it's your point, Ratatouille, he's not realistic. (laughing) - I just feel like that wouldn't happen. (laughing) - I think it's amazing just how good the film is that they get away with so many jumps. I feel like a lot of people make people-- - How many jumps? - Because a lot of problems are people make jumps, and it just doesn't make any sense, and that doesn't hold a lot of jumps. - Tool me through the jumps. - Well, you've got, obviously, you've got the rat pulling the hair, and that move-- - Well, that's the last final jump, really. Is that, what are the other jumps? - The other jumps are, I guess, at the rat, the rat's that good at cooking, that's a big jump. - Yeah. - I think also, like, there's not a lot of jump, this is just more of a flaw, I have a lot of sympathy for the head chef, you know what I mean? - This is the weirdest analysis of Ratatouille. - The big villain guy, right? - Gusto's. - Yeah, yeah, the right-hand man. - 'Cause he just doesn't want rats in his kitchen. - No, that's not true. - Is it not? - You've watched this more recently than me. No, he, Linguini is the rightful heir to Gusto's throne. He's the star of his throne, good stuff. And he's trying to, when Linguini arrives, he then tries to basically get him out so that he can take the throne. 'Cause Linguini comes out of nowhere. - Yeah, and-- - So he is an evil man. - Yeah, I mean, it's a fight against nepotism, and it's a guy who clearly can't cook. I mean, he was right all along that this guy can't cook. - But no, yeah, and weirdly, it actually goes against the whole point of the film that anyone can cook because Linguini can't cook. - No. - And no, no matter how much Linguini tries, he can't cook. - Oh, imagine rat can cook, right? - Well, I don't think, well, no, I'll tell you why. That's not, no, it's still worse because it's not everyone can cook. It's anyone can cook. - Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's true. - And then what, you actually, which is really nice, little flutter at the end, is when he, out of nowhere Linguini, there's that scene when all the rats come and help make the final dish. 'Cause all the, the restaurant staff have left. - Yeah. - And you've just got like a pack of rats all making this amazing thing. And then Linguini says, I'm gonna be the waiter 'cause they've got no waiters. - And that's his calling, and that's when he finds it. - And then, yeah, and he's the greatest waiter in the world. - The greatest waiter in the world. - Which is odd 'cause Linguini's arc is interesting. - Because does he not look a bit like Matt? Sorry to bring him up again. - Yes, he does look like Matt. - We're talking about the villain and ratatouille, right? I do feel from his perspective, I get that it's kind of a legal knot that the rightful heir is Linguini. But he rightfully has a suspicion that this guy can't cook and/or he's being controlled by a rat. And I do feel, you know what I mean? - He doesn't think he's being controlled by a rat. - He does 'cause he keeps seeing a rat. - Yeah, but not initially. He makes a decision to get rid of Linguini. - He knows like a fishy going on. And he was right, there was something fishy going on. If you're being controlled by a rat, that's fishy as fuck, right? - He doesn't know that immediately. He becomes suspicious that Linguini's being controlled by a rat slightly later on before we know that he's trying to get Linguini out. He was nasty to Linguini immediately. But that's kitchen, you know, that happens. And I do feel like one, this is a nepotistic kid who he thinks can't cook and he's right. And/or he's being controlled by a rat and I think that's really unhygienic. And I do think you need to have some respect for someone who wants to protect the hygiene of a restaurant. - Now, I don't think you should have a rat, even if they can cook. - I'll reply to the book. (laughing) - Point A. - I think it's just not hygienic. I think it'll ever be hygienic to have a rat running a kitchen. (laughing) - It's really hard to talk to you about this. It's very, we're having a very strange conversation about, I never, when you said ratatou, I never imagined this is what we'd be talking about. So the point is that the head chef decides that he's gonna get rid of Linguini before he knows about the rat, okay? So we can move that one aside for now. The other point is, Costot clearly didn't want his sous chef to run the restaurant. He gave it to Linguini. - Yes. - So this suggests that there's something nefarious going on with the head chef anyway. - Well, so how's Costot this genius? When he gives it to immediately to a 19 year old who can't fucking cook shit out of nowhere? - Because just owning the restaurant doesn't mean he had to be head chef. So Linguini, if the head chef was nice enough to Linguini, Linguini would have kept it on. - I guess so. - But he was a bad guy. - The business side. - It was a, no, oh my God, you've forgotten everything. I just remember, no, what the head chef wanted to do is turn Costot's food into microwave meals. - Yeah. - He was a bad man. To be fair, Costot has the problem because in the will he should have been like the restaurant cannot be sold or given to that guy. - Yeah. - But he wasn't explicit enough. - And also as soon as Linguini takes over the restaurant, because of the health violations of a million rats, it does close immediately. - It did. - Yeah. - But then it reopened. - Well, he starts a new one. - Right. - Yeah, the rat restaurant. - Which is fair enough, you know, it's your right to do. I just feel, I wouldn't mind seeing the story of the villain because I imagine it seemed like I feel he's worked his way up to the top, right? Through blood, sweat and tears, through the Parisian cooking scene. And I just think a little bit more empathy for a guy who has really worked tooth and nail to get where he is for judging this nepotistic 19 year olds who doesn't know a fucking thing about cooking, coming in and trying to take over the restaurant. I think just a little bit. I got that on second view, which I didn't get when I was a child. - I feel like you missed loads of bits in the film. At no point does Linguini kick the doors down and said this is mine now. He's awkward all the time. He's like apologizing for basically having the being the heir to the restaurant for the whole time. He doesn't know what he's doing. He's just there to learn the ropes so he can get a job. But no, it's not, Linguini doesn't even, I swear Linguini doesn't know that he's the heir to the restaurant. He doesn't. - So how, he's not coming stomping in. - I'm saying I'm understanding why he doesn't want to tell him. - Yeah, I can understand. - He's a fight against the system, which is, you know, there's a lot of nepotism and I feel like. - But it's bad to not tell him though. - Yes, but I'm just, I'm giving empathy to this character. - And I can see the empathy initially. But as I say, he could have maintained his position as head chef. It was just Linguini was gonna own the business. But the guy who wanted money, he wanted to sell out gusto's cooking to put it in ready meals. And to do like, yeah, I think we just microwave meals or something like that. That's what he wants to do. That is evil. That's an evil man. Now, let's talk about more about the inaccuracies that you're plagued with. With, what other Disney films have you got a problem with in terms of it being a jump? Because I mean most, I can't think of a Disney film. - I haven't watched the recent Disney film. I think Ratatouille is, I guess whenever I've re-watched Disney films, I don't normally get hit. And by the way, I think Ratatou is one of the greatest films I've ever met. - Yeah, yeah. - This is not a tall question. I think it's a perfect film. I was, it made me laugh. A lot of the plot points really made me laugh. 'Cause I was like, it shows the skill you have as storytellers that you can get away with some of these, you know? - Yeah, because in other, if it was written a lot worse there, that'll be like, well, that's like, yeah, come on. - They're really just trying to get from point A to point B. You're like, I guess the Rat can control him by his hair. - It is true, that's true. 'Cause of how well written it is, they do get away with a lot. - How does they end up? - But it's also because it's a fucking Disney film. - Yeah, yeah, but some of them. - But the rats can talk. The rats can communicate with humans. - No, they can't. - No, they can talk. We can hear them talk to each other, they can communicate. - The rats talk to each other in English. - That's right, I don't mind that. I don't mind that. - Good. I wanna hear that. - You know, bugs lie. - I'll keep going as to where you mind it, okay? I'll do all the jumps. - The rats can communicate to each other in an English kind of English film. - That's an animated film, brilliant. - Then the rat can communicate with the human via sign. - That, that scene was a bit more of a struggle. - So this is where you're at, the issues are starting. (laughing) - Well, it was more-- - 'Cause they couldn't, they couldn't hear, they couldn't obviously hear each other, he had squeak, squeak, squeak, squeak, but they communicate via squeaks and sign. - Well, it's more like it was the nod and the shaking of the head. - So what, what do you mean? - Well, it's, it's, it's like the way that they communicated was that he had asked them questions that rat would nod or shake his head. - It's a bit like speaking to someone in a coma. - And weirdly-- - Over blinks. - The film similar to Midnight in Paris. I don't know, they're obviously both set in Paris, but they're both could be viewed as like a true-- - Sister, no, it was a truly insane person suffering from severe psychosis. - Yeah. - And that it's from their perspective, so the wrong person is the villain. In the way that I think you could read Midnight in Paris, which is actually one of my favourite films, as if you actually read it as Owen Wilson is off his fucking rocker, then suddenly Rachel McAdams character doesn't come across as badly. - Right. - Because she's on, she's gone to a trip in Paris and her husband has completely lost his mind. And it's constantly saying, "I'm going back in time, I'm meeting Hemingway. What are you talking about? This is fucking crazy." - This is crazy. - This is nothing like the guy I'm married. What the fuck is going on? - I think I've always sympathised with her. - Really? - Yeah. - Well-- - I think I've only watched it a couple of times. - Yeah. - But I can't remember it, but I remember not really, I was like, "Of course you." - Well, the whole premise of that one is that, yeah, at Midnight, every night, he goes back in time. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Which is, you know, I don't mind a flight of fancy, even though it sounds like I do. - Yeah. - But I read that film, I've watched that film seven times, and the more and more I watch it, the more I read it, is a dark comedy about a man's about a man going through psychosis. - Yeah, well, that would add up. - Yeah. - And this is what a rat going through a sort of thing. - No, no, no, 'cause I think it's-- - Well, linguini. - It's linguini. - Yeah. Maybe linguini's actually just a good cook, but he hasn't got the self-assurance and confidence to just be a good cook. He needs to make up a story that is a rat doing it, 'cause he's punishing himself for childhood trauma. - I actually think linguini has been given a lot because of the nepotism, right? - He's not got anything now. - No, no, this is all in his head, though. This is how he's refrained his reality. - Yeah. - And he's a fucking it up, but then he's got this whole thing going around in his head. - He's fucking it up. - I think he's actually fucking it up in real life, but this is his brain reality. - So he's actually just been fired, and he's still out by those dunks, the things outside. - He's got, he's got the rat friends, and they went out. - Then the press got saved, and that's pretty like-- - That's it. - So we've released the next part of the TV series, sketches. And we've done a lot of strange things on the streets. We've done relatively risky things on the streets. For instance, I mean, the TV ones have always been slightly anti-social, just 'cause of the things we're saying. And if you just walk past it without hearing it, it's-- - How public the setting has to be and how much has to move. It's not in one place. - No, exactly, and you can't, you know, you're not immediately getting his comedy from the outset. But we've done stuff for one of the estate agents ones. I mean, there was a fairly big window when I was humping all those desks and tables and stuff. - Yes. - People could see into it. - So we've been, you know, I was in my boxes in a park for that medieval one. - Yeah, that was really porn. It still came out very porny. - It came out very porny. It looked, it looked like we were doing some aggressive medieval role play in the middle of a park. - Yeah. - So we've done stuff, but for me, I think this was the worst one. So there was a lot of it when I thought it was getting a bit too close to home, when we were outside council states talking about council estates in suits, doing those stupid voices. - Hey, how are people living there? I know it's stupid, in fact, they are, yeah. - There were several moments where I felt we need to run out of here. But then it was like we were assassins going from council estates to council estate. - Luckily they all looked identical. So it was basically just a moving set of new people. - Exactly. - Yeah. - And there were bits where, you know, it's just doing or any kind of this stuff in East London was one of the riskier things I thought we'd done. - Yeah. - And kind of terrifying to do. - Well, I guess when we're talking about immigration, we had that one where we were talking about immigration and there was a school pickup for a school of imagination. - And there was that one, there was the Romanian one about the Romanian's dodging taxes. And then we stopped to let this woman go past and she was on the phone. - Clearly Eastern European, we were like, actually 100% could have been Romanian. Just the amount of, the amount of times you'd walk past someone where it's exactly the demographic that you're, well, talking about. - But I mean, I guess I don't see other people doing this sort of stuff. What you do see is you see a lot of influences about, like there was that wall outside of all place where, I guess it was like a perfect white wall. So a lot of people took photos in front of it. - It's weird how that perfect white wall was like, you know, people knew about it. How do you know about a perfect white wall? Because there was too many influences there. - It's kind of embarrassing when you see influences, but I guess I haven't seen anyone filming something like that. - No, but it's not, that's embarrassing. This is potentially right inside. This is potentially getting a fight. What should we put on this wall? - I don't know, we're talking about what we want for the mural. I, at the moment, I'm leaning towards sort of Studio Ghibli-esque, Lake and meadow, something very calming. Like the scene in "House Moving Castle" where they go through the kind of flower fields with the lakes and the sky. - Yeah. - Eyes like very realistic paintings of both of our faces above each of our faces. - Yeah, like photo realistic, yeah. - Yeah, photos are realistic. - But above each other, or we've inverted it? - Above each other. I think inverting it would be horrifying. - Well, as opposed to the big things of our faces, it could just be this shot again. - We take a picture. - Yeah. - No, no, it's just painted perfectly. - Oh yeah. - So it's just-- - I kind of like that. This is where, 'cause we could go, we could go, go on in the comments, what do you think? - Comment of your ideas, of what we could do with this, welcome to the new studio. 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