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See site for details. (upbeat music) - Hello and thank you so much for joining us for your SmackDown Posho for Friday, September 20th. We're on the road to bad blood. And we thank you so much for joining us tonight. - I'm joined as always by the wonderful Alex Cardozo. Cardozo, how you doing over there? - I'm doing excellent. How are you doing? - Oh, I'm just living the dream, Alex. I am living the dream. - You were the talk of the town all week. I loved it. I, you know, I like to see you flurched the way you do and take over the industry. - Well, thank you. Well, thank you. I was certainly doing something out here, but get in those super chats, get in those hover chats. If there's anything that you want to talk about regarding tonight's episode of SmackDown, or kind of in general, if you just want to say hi to us, if you want to talk about Alex's clavicles or my bangs or whatever you want to talk about. But we also invite you to do a whole laundry list of other things. 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News about Miro that broke earlier today that he had requested his release, but Sean also had the supplemental details behind Fightful Select.com about the length of his contract going to spring 2026. So we will see what AEW wants to do with that. The ball is in their court, but so much happening at Fightful Select. Boy, howdy. It's a nice to have a normal place where you can talk about wrestling that's in a moderate community. So head over to Fightful Select.com. Join that Discord, join the Ask SRS channel. If you have any questions, he gets back to them. As soon as he possibly can in that Ask SRS channel, he'll drop scoops in there from time to time too. So join that Discord. It's a good time, Alex. Kind of fluffing with your hair over there. Are you feeling pressure because of my bangs? Is that what's going on? - I'm only trying to match your freak, you know what I'm saying? Trying to keep up here. I don't have a lot of bangs. I do have incredible clavicles. - Sure. - And even though fall does begin tomorrow, this weekend, the most glorious time of the year, these clavicles will still be out in full force just with their plaid. - Well, we love that. We love that for you as we enter Hallmark season. You still got to have the clabs out, but we've got some Smackdown to get into it. So please leave a super chat or a Humper chat. We appreciate your support. However, you want to give it to us and throw it our way. Very, very much appreciated. - We want to say this real quick. Yes, if you guys are hearing some audio pops that's coming, unfortunately, from Kate's side because we were trying to fumble around with the audio. So there are some, it's popping a little bit, but nothing like where it's too crazy. - Look, we're popping over here. Do I just have a little bag now? - Yeah, it's not, I mean, you could always, you could always do the unplugsy and plugsy thing if you want, whatever. Then you could do it while we're doing a commercial break. So Kate, it's Friday night, we're live. - Incredible segues, you think? But yeah, we're still fiddling around with my setup, but I will say, my parents have helped me with my studio and my whole apartment over the course of the past week. It's been so nice. We've gone in on fall cleaning here at my castle, so. - I love it for you. - You know what, it's crackly. I'll just switch it to my headset, Mike, which is unfortunate, but we will get there, y'all. We will get there. - I'm just gonna say this right now. I will have to, you know, Tony Khan and WWE and M-L-W-N-T-N-A, pay me so much money to do this show here, that I'm gonna have to take my private jet and fly over to Kate, and because I am an audio wizard, and I'm just gonna set up her entire stuff for Bagel, and a coffee, and I'm gonna get right back in here cleaning, go back home. So that's what I'm thinking of doing. You guys, if anyone's-- - Well, I had it work in a couple days. This has been a little funky today. - Yeah, it's all right, it happens. - We will figure it out, but we're gonna get into this episode of SmackDown, so send some love our way pretty, pretty please, y'all. But let's talk about this episode. We've got a recap of what happened with Solo Saccoa, which I thought was a nice recap. We had that Monday night's new era kind of feel headed over to USA. This of course, we're fully in the USA network era for the time being. But we start off the show, and we get Tomatanga and Tonga Loa, just tough day to be security, man. Tough day to be security. Jake Fatu just destroying people trying to do their jobs. But Kevin Owens gets interviewed after the Roman and Cody video by Byron Saxon in this episode. So I'm gonna give you some bloodline stuff before we dig into our first match here. And we have him getting interviewed after the Roman Cody video we're gonna talk about later by Byron and he walks out without saying anything and says he's gonna do his talking in the ring when he gets interrupted by the bloodline. Tomatanga saying that Roman and Cody and KO are going to get what is coming to them and they attack KO. So you're gonna see a lot of bloodline through line here as we go with DIY making the save and Nick Aldis making that sixth man event light up. We're gonna talk more and more about that later. But let's dive in to our US Championship match which kicks off the night from an in-ring perspective here. We get LA Knight and Andrade for that US title. This was a match I was very much looking forward to and definitely one of the better storylines that I think they have going on SmackDown and did all of wrestling right now. But really, really, really good stuff. I feel like this was a win all around. You do have LA Knight rotating with the BFT which I thought was great. But I feel like everything is going right because after this match, you also have Andrade kind of meeting Carmelo Hayes backstage and Carmelo Hayes saying wouldn't have been me. Wouldn't have been me losing to LA Knight. That's a you problem, brother, which I liked. I liked that the loss meant something and that it threw he on the Carmelo at Andrade rivalry. And I felt like LA Knight who has always been better than the ring that people give him credit for I think his in-ring kicked up a notch tonight because he was in the ring with someone as great as Andrade. So I feel like this is payoff city all around. I thought the match was excellent. I feel like LA Knight getting to flex a little bit more on his in-ring capabilities was wonderful. I think Andrade is returning to something that's really interesting. And I think it kind of shows you that Carmelo is gonna be a challenger at some point along the way but keeps that rival rivalry alive. So I liked a lot of what we got out of this. What did you think? - Yeah, I didn't think it was bad at all actually. For the first time the US title had a really, really good memorable match, a good defense. First of all, we haven't seen anything like this since I think when Kevin Owens came up and pretty much just put the beat down on Cena many, many, many moons ago. So it's kind of cool and refreshing to kind of see where this is going. - And then you get the backstage assault that kind of just goes down between these two, Carmelo and Andrade. I think that they understand that they have lightning in a bottle with those two. If they make it a best of seven, they make it a best of 14, whatever they want to do. I think the fans will truly enjoy it. Overall, great match. I didn't see anything. I didn't see absolutely anything wrong. The right person won and the right person will continue when I think in this instance. I don't think you're going to take that off every many times soon. So it's nice to see that that title's actually getting defended, getting defended well. And they're putting a lot of emphasis on these mid cards. - Yeah, I was so worried they were going to have missed the boat with LA Knight because it took them so long to get a title on that guy and he's been white hot for so long, but he's really sustained the momentum. He gets a huge pop every time he comes out. The matches were great and they finally figured out what to do with Andrade. Like he's finally broken out of I have to fight within the context of other Hispanic talent. Like we've kind of broken out of that mold, which is really, really refreshing. And Andrade and Carmelo were two people that have extremely high ceilings that should feel like big deals on your roster that weren't really doing anything. I think they're both really benefiting, really benefiting from this rivalry. But we got some super chat love that came in, Ryan Lambert sending love. We appreciate that. Sending everyone here all the love tonight. Well, thank you, Ryan. We appreciate that so much. And Bad Robot, who's always so kind to us saying, hello favorite post show. We're in the World Edition, Skedakamora. Him versus Jacob Fatu, Mellow and Andrade, please. I also, I am convinced, teed up Andrade and half and dethron Cody, so many bangers in our row. So Sean did get to the bottom of Skedad. He just isn't being used right now. He had done some work in Japan when they were doing some work over there. AJ Styles, same deal, I think. But he's just not being used. He's been drafted to SmackDown. I don't think we've seen him since. It's a shame. They had set up some really incredible vignettes for him on Raw and he was made to feel important through those vignettes and then they didn't back it up with any wins. And unfortunately, the top dog that was on Raw also went to SmackDown. So I don't think you can pick up that story again, but you can certainly have, certainly have Shinsuke doing work in the mid-card. So I don't know where he is, but you're dead on about Andrade. I don't know if I would have him dethroning Cody. I could see him kicking around in that big card title picture for a little bit and being heated up as a contender for Cody though, for sure. He had looked great in the ring. He's always looked great in the ring. That's never been the issue, really. But great to see from him tonight. Any thoughts from you, Cordos? Are you missing Shinsuke? Like I am, I love that guy. - You know, it's weird because it's been a while. So I don't know where he would fit in. This is a totally different WWE right now. I mean, just from even a month ago. So if you were to bring him in, where would pieces, what he fit into, right? Would he be a face that did, I mean, I'm so sorry, but what was his last thing? Where do I fit in? - Where do I fit in? - First of all, first of all, we have two stars right now here at Fightful to the most talked about Twitter handles on all of X, Twitter, whatever you want to call it. - Yeah, two of the most serially harassed people on the Internet as well. - Not to brag, but yeah. - But somebody is going to take Kate out, they said. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, it's crazy. - Take her out. - I've never heard those words be spoken to the way they did. Like to dinner, like, I mean-- - Well, I mean-- - At least I asked-- - I don't like to talk about like Twitter weird stuff on here that much, but I mean them. What I have to constantly remind myself is, those people convince themselves they're the normal ones. - Sure. - Somehow. - Thank you. - I don't understand how or why or any of that, but by God, they do. But I'm here courtesy of FightfulSelect.com. Ooh, we had news this morning. Miro has asked for his release from AEW. As best I know, he is under contract until at least spring of 2026. However, there's an awful lot of injury time that can be added to that deal, an awful lot. If it were me, if I were Tony Khan, I would say come back, put a couple people over, put one person over, put literally anybody over, put Fuego over, doesn't matter, put somebody over. - Put well over, put little hobs over. Revisit the meat match, that's what I'm rooting for. - Yeah, put someone over 'cause you have to go back to September of 2021 to find a time when he got pinned. 'Cause even the Brian Danielson match was a rest decision. - Yeah, that's right, yep. - But he resigned in 2022 and it was a, I wouldn't, okay, big money deal for me, that's for sure. Compared to some of the other deals out there, maybe not, but hey, if a guy wants his release and he's saying, you know what, you can stop paying me and he agrees to put somebody over, I would say let him out, you're clearly not using him or he doesn't want to be used, give that money to a guy named Daniel Garcia instead. - You know, that's not a bad idea. It's not like the AEW roster is at a lack of talent or lack of guys who can be top guys. I would say that's the same across WWE as well. So I'm with you on that. I actually was, I already plugged that on. I was like, oh my gosh, but it is the best $5 in the phase. But yeah, I mentioned that. I mentioned the Kevin Owens news, which we're gonna talk about Kevin Owens a whole lot on this episode, but also on FightfulSelect.com. Some supplemental details there as well. - Yeah, his deal as of now is up at the end of the year. I know that Wrestling Observer said like 15 people have been approached, I have not heard of 15 people, but that doesn't mean that's not the case. Personally, if I had heard 15 people, I'd be going after those names immediately to report them. But PWInsiders said, "Ria, Liv, Nia." At least one of those I've heard is yes, they have, but this is a far cry from the Dan Ventrelli era of talent relations that we just got out of where there were some talent that quite frankly had told me they were not thrilled about how long WWE waited to negotiate with them, including some that they didn't retain. Kevin Owens is a guy though, that I know that AEW wants. And they wanted him to last go around. I'm not sure if it was conveyed enough to Kevin Owens. However, objectively, I think we can say that Kevin Owens re-signing with WWE was a great decision for him. Like, it really was. - Made him into WrestleMania in a thought stone cold, won the tag titles with his best friend heavily from WrestleMania. - Yes, main event of WrestleMania. He seemed very happy with WWE like during interviews and stuff, but the amount of money and the schedule that I think that AEW will offer him if given the opportunity would be something that at least if he hits free agency or a negotiation period, I think that he would have to at least consider 'cause that's how much I've heard that AEW wants him. Another contract that is coming up. And again, we'll talk more about this on Monday's Fightful Weekly Report podcast, but Dustin Rhodes, and normally people be like, you know, he's 55, what's it matter? Listen, you can see what it matters. You can see what it matters on this show right here. We have seen Dustin Rhodes do incredible things in the ring and creatively with Cody Rhodes and Roman Reigns in the past. And like, I like what he's doing in Ring of Honor. I thank God, Sammy Guevara's got somebody else to hang out with besides Chris Jericho. But like for me, yeah, I would really, really love to see him end his career in WWE with his brother and doing something like that. I think that would be very cool. So a lot of contract stuff going back and forth. And we had asked WWE about Sheamus last year or last week. And he confirmed that again this week. Over on Fightful Select, had a bunch of NXT news about their schedule and NXT Scoop's thread. We have a new feature on Fightful Select. I know a lot of you, you don't wanna sit through the audio of a Q and A. So I've been taking several of those answers and typing them out for you guys. We're gonna have three of those this week. We call it Fightful, or Select Answers. $5 a month, $54 a year gets you Fightful Select. And it gets you that news before anybody else. All the third party aggregators and all that stuff. Listen, it's where they're getting their news from. Getting their news from. Had a bunch of news on the AEWBD deal. Of course, we had a Raw and SmackDown Scoop's thread. We've had some info on writers of Segments lately, which is not something that we have had in the past. We were able to get that. And of course, the biggest news, Paul White isn't retired. He wants to bring Captain Insano back. Yeah, but I'm gonna have more contract news this weekend on FightfulSelect.com. - New and different for you this year some contract news coming up, my goodness. - Yes, finally. Finally, we're gonna have some contract news. - It has been a hell of your contract news. And plenty more to come. Hell be here to be a Fightful Select subscriber just $54 in your or $5 a month. So some exciting stuff happening behind the pay of all including us. Plasky and I doing pay for the post shows. And being extremely proud. - Yeah, that too, well, most importantly, I believe you two watched Wrong Side of Town. - I know that's coming up. That's coming up. - I would be watching that episode. I was told it was the Wrong Side of Bed. - It's one of the worst movies ever. In fact, it's in the news again because Batista just did an interview with Chris Van Vliet and he said that he did a movie called Wrong Side of Town and when he watched it back, he's like, "Wow, I'm a really terrible actor." - That's so funny 'cause Alex already watched it because Alex will immediately watch anything that we decide that we're gonna do. But he said-- - Let me just say this. - Batista said he was a terrible actor. He is in the top-- - Passion, drive, and patience. The formula for winning championships is also what keeps your ride or die alive. eBay Motors has everything you need to maintain your vehicle and level it up to peak performance. Superchargers, roof racks, exhaust kits, LED headlights and more. Whether you're into speed, power, or style, eBay Motors has you covered. 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Visit kingsuper's.com/vaccines for more. Restrictions and exclusions apply seasight for details. - Like 2% tile of good actors in that movie. - It was also, Alex had just said it was so deceiving 'cause they make it seem like he's a co-star and he has like a five minute cameo. As does Ja Rule? - Ja Rule as well. Oh, like the cast, tastes nobody's ever seen wrong side of town. It is like Rob Bandam is the star of the movie, but on the cover it is Batista with two guns and then behind him, Ja Rule, who is also almost not in the movie and then Rob Bandam behind him. But the cast for someone like my age, we're talking RVD Batista Vissara, King Mabel is in this movie. Omarion from B2K is in this movie. Stormy Daniels is in this movie. - Stormy Daniels, Ja Rule and Batista are in this movie. He was, Alex was devastated that it was an RVD vehicle and not a Batista one, but he said you could see where Batista had like a jumping off point. Like that it was there, that it was there. 'Cause he's probably the best wrestler turned actor from like a skill standpoint, I think. - Sure, yeah. - That's great. - You know, funny enough, somebody asked me recently who I thought was going to be the next wrestler that could break out in Hollywood. And I was like, I don't know if it'd be anybody in WWE or AW. I look at Big Trouble, Ben Bishop as a guy. He's the one that does all these skits. He's very charismatic, but also, somebody's gotta be doing these Kurgon and Nathan Jones roles that like, these two guys have been in like 300, they've been in movies with like Kevin James and like all these Mad Max and all this, like these guys are getting in their 50s, 50 and all that. There's gonna have to be a younger guy that can do that. And I think he fits that bill like really, really well. He's one that I look at and I'm like, that's a slam dunk. Like he's going to get roles like that. And you can see that he has range as well. But yeah, you know, I show up here to drop scoops. I end up talking about wrong side of town, go figure. That's where we've been for a lot of this week. But let me tell you, I rented that from red box when it came out. When it came out, I rented it from red box. - My gosh. - Watch that on a 23 inch flat screen TV in my room. I was like, hell yeah, brother, that was me. - It's like a Michael Scott on the office when he has that for small flat screen mail. - Yeah, I gotta say, it's up there. The whole movie's ridiculous. And the only thing since then, the only movie scene that I have seen that is as ridiculous as all that, there was this movie recently with Queen Latifa. And she like single handedly beats this shit out of like seven guys. - That's awesome, what movie is it? - Well, it was, one of them was Keith Jardine, who's a former UFC fighter. Now, granted, they were white supremacists in the movie. So like, you almost feel guilty saying, this is unbelievable, but it was like a little ridiculous. 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So, some. - Ooh, wait a second. - Some good stuff there, but let's get moving on this Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes video. - Shouse. - I thought that this was very dramatic, but wrestling is dramatic, and wrestling is cheesy, so I'll take it, but I actually thought this was pretty good, let's dig into it a little bit. You have Roman Reigns who is at Georgia Tech Stadium with Cody Rhodes, and he calls the stadium and the city of Atlanta where, you know, the place where he spilled his blood in sweat and Cody Rhodes kind of list off his family that wrestled and bled for Atlanta and was his home. It wasn't just like a place where he lived in the stadium that he worked out of, which I thought was good stuff, but Reigns says enough about the history lesson, which I really liked 'cause what I've wanted to see from Cody a little bit more in this reign is him getting out of Cody Rhodes' cadence, 'cause we've seen a lot of Cody Rhodes' cadence and not enough stuff like this. Like, I thought this was more human sounding and better and more natural, which is just my preference. He's phenomenal at what he does, but for just things that I like better, I like things like this more. But Reigns says that Cody's in a lose-lose situation, and he has been for a bit, and this is the first time in a long time that Roman Reigns has nothing to lose, and nobody in the bloodline proper really has anything to lose, which I thought was a good point there. I wrote this kind of, throws it in reverse because he says that he had nothing to lose because he isn't who he used to be, and he asks Roman Reigns for a couple of things, and the first is that he would have his back, and he wants Roman Reigns' words that that'll be true, and Reigns agrees, but he says that he wants a title shot when this is over. And I felt like it was good. I felt like they had to come to a middle ground that makes it make sense that they're gonna fight off the new bloodline as it were, but they don't like each other, and they shouldn't like each other. Like, Roman had what Cody had for three years, right? And he lost it to that guy, and he shouldn't just be over that because there's some new blood in town, right? So I like that Roman Reigns is still trying to work his way back to Cody's title. I think that's an important piece of this, but I liked them kind of digging into things that I loved when Roman went through, like, hey, this is everything that's got taken from both of us. They took Jimmy away, they took Jay away, they took everything away, they took Heyman away. Like, he really has nothing to lose, and I loved that they kind of called out that Roman, as over of a babyface as he is right now, shouldn't be like an underdog babyface. He should be a babyface that has something to fight for, though. And I think this struck the chord it needed to of making Roman still feel like a badass, still have to navigate a relationship with Cody Rhodes that he doesn't just automatically like him 'cause they're both faces. But I thought this was an effective segment. The outro music stopped really, really cheesy for me. The rest of it was wrestling drama, which I can take, but some of it I was like, all right, that's a little heavy-handed, but I thought this was effective. And even when it's something that I don't love as much, I always try to give credit when wrestling does stuff that is new and different stylistically than what they've been doing. I think it's important, I think it's important that wrestling continues to take risks in this way. So I like that they did it 'cause it's not like stuff that we normally get in wrestling. I feel like both AEW and WWE are both doing that really well right now. They both really challenge themselves on a production standpoint. I think that's necessary if you want wrestling to stay feeling fresh and modern and like it could be cool again. So this was decent. I liked the reasoning in it more than I liked the production, but I applaud them for doing something a little different than they normally do. What did you think of our Georgia segment that we got here? - I'm glad that you mentioned it with the way that you did because we've seen just as well as the other company take their own shots with doing cinematic promos the way that they've been now both doing back and forth. Like it's a bit of a gamble because the old man said it and you guys know who the old man is. I don't need to mention him. When he took over WWE, he said this is a TV show with just fighting in it, right? So I understand that that's where it kind of is still is at, right? It's a TV show with the drama built in. And then the drama just happens to rise and turn into a fight. I thought it was a bit too long. That's just my opinion. I made the grandest non mistake of putting it up online saying that it was just a tad bit long. We all know how that ended. And, but that's what I thought. It could have been, it could have been tighter. The music was definitely, I like the beat. I was dancing, I was popping. I just needed a little bit of things to be just tightened up a little more. And this is just coming from someone who works in the production field. I know that if I were to present something like that, that was super long, in the world that we are today, I would be asked to kind of make it a little more concise and tighter, right? Especially since we only have two hours and only like three matches. So, you know, that ate up a chunk of the show, I enjoy the banter, I see what they're doing. I see where they're going with the acting and the drama and the don't do it. And using luts to make it look like a film, you know, if you don't know what a lot is, it's just a look of it, you know, they make it look like a movie, cinematic. So, yeah, I love the interaction between them two, like a math problem, you can chop off the outliers on the sides, which is everything else that was happening. And yeah, I mean, for a minute there, I'm like, I'm waiting for someone to say that we're going to start a stadium stampede, so. - I do agree though, we saw when Dye to my open with that, Moxley promoed out this past week, but the week before, AW did something different than they've done with that interwoven long shot that we got, I liked that WWE did something like this too, but I'll tell you what, if you're worried that your performance is not going to last long enough. - Blue Choo, main event performance, main event confidence and a main event deal, go to bluechoo.com and use the code Fightful and you will get Blue Choo with their first shipment for free. 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I think that Brown Breaker's probably gonna be JU, so you might see him scoot back over to this math downside or start seeing that crossover as we begin to build to survive our series, but I liked Roman acknowledging that he has nothing to lose and how that had made him more dangerous. And I liked Cody saying like, this isn't yours anymore. Like you don't just get to decide how things run. I think Roman now has to adjust to the environment he's in 'cause he's not running everything anymore, but me normal saying, bangs, clavicle, collect him. - I need to make that into a shirt. - How was wrestling tonight? Does Smackdown have as much meat as raw? I don't think there's any meat as much as you have with Braun and Bronson right now. I think that has been the most fun of the meat divisions that you could possibly get. A lot of the AEW meat has been on the shelf for a little bit. So, but Bronson Reed and Braun Strowbitt has been, I think the media's today you can get, but a fun Smackdown nonetheless. A fun Smackdown nonetheless. So, some good stuff on tonight's episode. Keep that support coming. We thank you so much for it. Please leave a thumbs up on this video as well. Sean gave you your fightful select teases a little bit earlier in the night, but there's gonna be plenty more coming up. These remaining months are insane. Like there are pay-per-views that I completely forgot about. 'Cause it's just such a loaded road down the rest of fall, but a really exciting time to be a wrestling fan. So, let's dig into this. Now, as effective as I thought, the Roman Reigns and Cody segment was, what the hell is going on with the Giovanni Vinci stuff, man? I don't know what they are doing. And I continued to not know what they are doing with one of the best in-ring workers in the world in Giovanni Vinci. He is so damn good in the rig, and they are making him look like a chump and not making Apollo crews look great in the process. I don't get how this benefits anyone, but we have another squash against Apollo crews who counters a powerbomb with a frickin' schoolboy to win, to which I say, that doesn't make Apollo crews look great either. There's a Jericho-ism, despite my current plots on Chris Jericho, he said something of great value, which was if you beat no one, you beat no one, right? If a opponent doesn't have any credibility and you beat them, it doesn't matter 'cause you beat a chump, which I think is more to say that when you're doing a promo, if you are a heel that only cuts your opponents' legs out from under them without raising them a little bit, you're doing yourself a disservice even in the process. But the same goes for the end ring because you would not know that Giovanni Vinci is top 20 worker in the world status, probably. I don't think that's an exaggeration if you've actually gotten to see him do what he can do. He has only looked like a henchman on the main roster when he was with Imperium. He was the weakest link according to the story that they told, other than that he was injured. And now he's been back. This is his big comeback. He's coming back with this great European asshole heel persona, and you're making him look this weak, and you're having Apollo Crews winner with a schoolboy? Who does this help? I don't get it. I don't get it. Like this makes someone who is actually so talented, looks so bad. And then Apollo Crews winning with a roll-up like, man, I don't think that does wonders for him either. Both of these guys can really go and we don't get to see it. This is so, so stupid. I don't understand who this helps at all. Help me make sense of it, Cardoza. I don't get it. - Kate, Kate is very simple. This is not a show, and you know, this is not me digging or anything, please. Do not take this out of context, but you know, Raw and SmackDown NXT and whatever comes in the future, it's not a show about wrestling first, right? It's about stories. And you know, you said it. - How does the story of this guy sucking help anybody? - Because it's that. It's that's the story that they're trying to build. WWE doesn't care that he's one of the best competitors and physical specimens on Earth. What they do care is that they're gonna be putting him out there, losing these two second matches, and then kind of really ramping up this nasty conniving, I'm gonna beat the living ship out of everyone and starting with Apollo. They'll probably end up like, he'll probably be crushing Apollo soon. Trust me on that. If you look at the way that this is going, this is very traditional with the way that they build certain characters, it's just the fact that he's gonna be pushing these matches, getting pissed off and he's gonna just blow off. And then we're gonna be like, "Wow, okay." So that's where they were going with him. Outside of that, there's nothing else that we can really be expecting. I don't, I don't- - When was the last time they successfully did this? 'Cause it didn't work with Cesaro, it didn't work with Kevin Cross, it doesn't work. It's a shitty story. - But it's a new regime. So I'm assuming that they're putting the trust in whomever is back, they're putting this together to be completely honest, because you're right, it doesn't really work. Because the fans are just gonna be like, "Why do we wanna get behind this guy?" Except just to boo him, right? So if they're gonna try to build him to be the next mega, if they're gonna try to make him the next 007 of WWE, right? Like this finesse looking amazing character, right? And then he just goes out there and beats the crap out of people because he's just been made to look like a chump since his comeback, you know? And I just feel like that's where they're going. I could be 1 billion percent wrong, but I just feel like this is where they're gonna go with him. And eventually, you know. - It was Ridge 2.0, how does that work? - Yeah, right. - It's not a story that they tell well, I don't care what regime it is. - I know. - You don't do it when you have this genuinely high quality of an in-ring worker doing that story. This is not the Miz. No offense to the Miz. He's unbelievable at the role that he plays. He's not in-ring worker guy. I think the Miz would tell you I'm not in-ring worker guy. I'm chicken shit heel guy, right? Like, I don't understand why you do this with someone who's in-ring ceiling is as high as Giovanni Vinci's. I don't like that story anyway, but when you're wasting the potential of a, I'm not exaggerating, but if you say you put him in your top 10 or top 10 workers, I couldn't argue with you. I don't know if he's in my top 10, but I can't argue with you at what I've seen from him. It's so- - I'm a very old man. Okay, I'm ancient. I've been watching professional wrestling for a very, very long time. And I can tell you this, that from watching the eras of WWE throughout my entire life, you know, for 18 plus years, we had no one else except for them. There's one thing that will remain true is the fact that as much as we love a lot of these physical, amazing specimen of wrestlers that are out there doing incredible things, it'll always just, that is secondary to everything else. You know, and me and you will sit here and we are going to give him his flowers for just being such an amazing professional wrestler, but at the end of the day, that's just secondary. And I don't think we're gonna see any of that, like, physicality and the amazing, you know, feature that he is in the ring until after they get this story situated with him. I don't know how true it is that people backstage are pissed or they don't like what's going on with him, right? I'm sure Sean will know more and Fightful Select will tell you a lot more, five bucks with five bucks in the business, but, you know, I'll say to that, I mean, I say this a lot, I said it about theory. I'll sit here and wait and where have I been about theory? - Yeah. - Right, like, yeah. So, you know, now I got-- - Maybe Jay Harvey mentioned he's a golden egg, who knows? - I'm doing the same thing with Giovanni. I'm gonna sit here and I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna see what they're putting in the pot and cooking. I hope people, at some point, Giovanni Vinti's WWE career get to learn how damn talented he is, 'cause I've seen it, I saw it in NXT, I've seen it all over the place, so-- - It's a different world in NXT, too, so. - You know what, though, Alice? I don't wanna see it on my TV. I don't wanna see it on my computer. I don't wanna see it on my phone, okay? I don't wanna see it in any of those places, but if I did, I would have all of those places secured with NordVPN, okay? 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"I know people hate hearing the word cinema and wrestling, "but it was cinematic for sure, "but who the hell was in all the trucks with Roman?" Oh yeah, DIY looked like geeks tonight. Sad, yeah, they kinda did. They kinda did, we're gonna talk about that in a little bit, but I think it's fair to say something. It's in a moment, it looks that cinematic. It is one of those words that has kind of worn out, it's welcome, but Epropos in this place for sure, but we move on to our women's action. Now I will say this episode was way on matches, but the matches we did get had some states behind them and I thought that this was a good use of the women's division. Like I felt like last week what got set up was a little bit confusing, but today it made more sense. That if Bailey and Naomi won, they would get to have a triple threat with Naya. If they lost, they would be sent to Ross. So this was good. And I wasn't clear last week on what had been set up, this was found its way, this found its way for sure, but this had Bailey and Naomi coming out victorious. What I liked about this was I felt like it could go either way. I feel like Naomi and Bailey have kind of maxed out their welcome a little bit on SmackDown from, I don't know what you can have them do unless you're gonna refresh the tag picture a little bit or introduce some new stables, which seems to be something that is rising here. But Naomi, they haven't given the wins that she's needed. Bailey had the title and is out of the title picture now and they're not really footing as to where she should go next. So I thought it was possible that they might get sent down to SmackDown sent over to Raw rather, but also could have seen this triple threat coming. So you have Tiffany fighting Bailey and Naomi off but they overpower her and we get a 1D and Tiffany rolling out of the ring. But Jax hits a Simone drop on Bailey and Naomi grabs the Jackknife pin on Jax while Bailey has the crucifix pin, which combines for the three counts. So I thought a clever ending, I thought a lot of good women's wrestling in this match. I love to see it. Best Nia's looked has been this run by far. We say it week over week. She's looked really great throughout this. Tiffany, a rising star against established veterans who are always so reliable. Makes for a really great match here, Alex. And for me, I liked that I didn't know who was gonna win this. I liked that there was a sense of suspensionness. - I enjoyed it a lot. I'm a big fan of Nia's comeback tour here of her. Just kind of just seeing this on you Nia come out and she's a badass and she's not being played and she's not talking about her whole being hurt and whatever else was happening before she left. Yeah. So here's the thing. I know that they mentioned that loser goes what leaves the Mac down as well, right? - Yeah, go to Raw if Naomi and Bailey were to lose, correct. - Yeah, okay, cool. So that's interesting on its own. They're adding a lot of different little sprinkles to this title picture. They're doing it right. And then the fact that Tiffany's still hanging around and she's kind of become now like this. She's slowly becoming this like side person, this little wheel on the side that's following along with Nia and everything else now that's happening around Nia, right? Like everyone else is like, "Hey, I'm gonna go after Nia." But here's little Tiffany just standing back like, "Hey, cute little me just hanging out." You know what I'm saying? She is keep your eyes on her 'cause she is the devil in disguise to kind of using the words from MJF there. Be very careful with her because she is gonna come out on top. I guarantee it and you can tell, man, this dynamic that they have with the women right now on Smackdown is really, really good. - The only thing I needed was pretty deadly being shenanigans on the side. - I know, yeah. They kind of just took them away rather quick, huh? - No, I'm sure they'll work with me. - They know where to be found. - Back into the entourage at some point soon, but I needed them at ringside doing pretty deadly stuff. But we got some hate in the house. I've gotten plenty of it this week, but we'll get Pulaski on here first. - Whenever we get into the 16 by nine box, I know something good's about to happen. - That's right, but we've got Pulaski. We were just talking about our women's match, which I thought was well executed, but we don't break it, Alex, to talk about the fun stuff. We bring him in for this hour of power. - Listen, I mean, I'm terribly sorry that all that horrible stuff happened to you and Sean, but all I can think over here may not receive any threading messages. What am I, chopped liver? Like, I thought I was the guy everybody hated. Come on, like, I don't get a single death threat, not one death threat, not a single one, not even like a threat of violence, not even like I'm gonna egg your house. Nothing, like I feel I'm feeling kind of left out. Like honestly, it's just, you know, me and my whole, like I don't think I deserve any real praise and like true, but I also feel like I probably deserve at least a little bit of hate. I mean, I got none. I had no idea what was happening to everybody else. I'm over here blissfully just checking my messages, getting nothing, no nothing crazy, nothing like I'm gonna stab your dog or nothing. I got nothing. I'm like, okay, I guess this is all right, I suppose. - Well, I'm sorry that you're not a just a woman 'cause that'll do it. - I should, yeah, that might do it. - Wow, yeah, that might do it. - I'm sorry you're not really good at wrestling scoops. I guess that's the other part of it, but-- - That could be it. - But I know that there's hate in your heart. I know there's hate in your heart for the sour sour sour. - You know what? You know what I love, Kate? I love when there are steaks. - I love steaks. - I love steaks. - I don't think so. - But like not those kind of steaks, different kind of steak. Like where things mean something. If thing happens, then other thing happens, right? So we had some problems with steaks in this particular episode. So they had all kinds of steaks in this women's match and they found a way for none of them to matter. For none of them to matter in this match. If you or you get pinned, you're out of SmackDown. But if you or you, whichever one does pin the other one, then you get the title match and the other one doesn't. So let's figure out a way for none of those things to happen. Plus-- - I was very confused, but I thought this meant if they won, they got a triple threat. Is that not what-- - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If Naomi pinned, that's why Naomi was pulling Bailey off of Nia. Because whoever was the one of the two women who got the pinfall got the title match. - Title match. - So because they both pinned her, just give them a triple threat. But no, we've got an extra step. We've got to go through next week where they face each other. But because we've seen years of WWE programming, we know if there's ever an opportunity where a heel is the champion and two baby faces fight each other for the right to face the heel for the title, that heel will always interfere, figuring, well, if neither of them win, then I don't have to defend my title at all. But that never works out that way and they just put them in a triple threat. So Nia is going to have had no knowledge of past booking ever and just interfere. Or Tiffany will do it on behalf of Nia. - It's gonna be the-- - Something like that. And we're gonna get to the triple threat anyway. So I guess that's good. - That is good kind of. Last week's segment was clunky, so I couldn't figure out fully what had gotten set up 'cause she was like, it'll be a triple threat. And then they set up a tag team match and I got very confused about what was going on. So gotcha. - Yeah. - Gotcha. - Yeah. - Well, in addition to reviewing SmackDown and Fightful Select, you also do that. Well, watching Rampage, and we did get a chat about Harley Cameron from Tom LaValle who said, "Talk about surprisingly great women. "Harley Cameron really held her own against she, "that never would've thought." But yeah, she's had under 40 matches and she's really, really, really good at this already. Like it's awesome to see her grasp some of what I think seemed like the most difficult things about wrestling, but I got to see that match live, so I know how good it was. What did you think? - Oh, good, yeah. - She was, she's very good. She's gotten a lot better at all this stuff. But also the alliance appearing to form between Hader and Shida is interesting. Deanna Parrozzo did a little vignette where she is starting her own faction with Taya Valkyrie as the first member. - How? - So like, it's faction. It's gang wars, but now it's lady gang wars. - I hope that leads to Lady Blood of Guts. 'Cause that would be good. - That would be good. Yeah, Lady Blood and Lady Guts. - There's a very specific time of the month joke I can make, but I'm gonna skip over it. - We're not gonna do that, no? - And we're gonna talk about other things from Rampage and other things from SmackDown. The floor is yours. - What was the deal with? Okay, so it's cool, Andrade lost, clean, but they're still continuing the feud with Mark Mello. Mello could have cost him the match, which is why they would continue with the feud. That's not the big deal. The big deal is the weird handshake. LA, LA Knight does the fist bump, and Andrade is like, no, I will not fist bump, handshake. And LA Knight's like, I'm not going for a handshake, I'm going for a fist bump. And Andrade's like, but I will not fist bump, I will only handshake. And Andrade's like, tough taco pal, we're doing a fist bump. And I don't know what, that was the first major pissing contest of the evening. The other one happened at midfield of a football field. So I don't really know why we had to just choose one. I don't know why we're doing the like, no, fist bump, no, handshake, that was weird. - It's how you get around the Code of Honor without breaking it, you know what I mean? - Could be, that could be it, that could be it. Hey, remember how I said stakes were important? - Yes. - What happens if Cody and Roman beat Solo and Jacob Fattu? - Well. - Like it's bragging rights, right? Like it's not like they have to give him the Oolafala back. - Right, I feel like the, it feels like once that business is done that Roman gets his title shot back at Cody, was what I took from today's segment. - But then why, like Cody, I don't understand, they obviously don't like each other and don't trust each other. Why are you forcing yourselves to team with the other guy if you don't like them and don't trust them? If when you beat the other team, you get nothing out of it. And the other team that you beat loses nothing. Like if Cody wins with Roman, then Solo can never challenge for his title again. And if Roman wins with Cody, then he's gotta get the Oolafala back. Something, this means a lot to them, but like not in a real way. All I got out of this is that both guys think they are more Atlanta than the other guy. And I really don't care about how Atlanta you are. - Well, I think the point of today's segment was probably to find a middle ground of how they're gonna work together as the Alliance, and then the stakes will be built coming up. - Maybe. - I would hope. I would hope, I think we're supposed to believe, they just need to work the bloodline for a little bit longer 'cause these guys are so dangerous is what they're trying to tell us. But today I think was just about the, we're not so different to you and I of it all. - Yeah, no, there was a lot of that. Also just everything, you haven't talked about it yet, I'm assuming, but everything surrounding the finish of the main event made the least amount of sense possible. I've never seen, I've never seen the ref call of the match, a six man tag because one member of one team pulled a member of the other team off of a pinfall. I've never seen that before. That's never been a thing that, use your Jonathan discretion. Like honestly, I don't know what that ref's doing it. And then Michael Coles in there going like, well, he had no choice. He definitely did have a choice. - He did have a choice, he definitely did have a choice. - But that's it, that's all. - We are gonna get to all of that bloodline stuff coming up, we're gonna talk about that whole through line in a little bit, but anything else from Rampage that you wanted to talk about while you're here. - The main event, Four Way was fun, but like. - I did not like it live, to be honest. - It was whatever. It was, it was whatever. - The lyrics were super fun. I felt like that match way too much of it was agent and to be a one on one match between two guys. And then occasionally it was just like. And then Rocky went out, came in, it was just. - It was fun, it just also like, it wasn't like, oh, this is for a title shot. It's really weird to do a fatal Four Way where nothing is on the line. That's usually, they usually, they usually don't do that, but. - No, that's weird. - That was a weird one. - But yeah. Oh, I love how Beast Mortosis, everybody wants Beast Mortosis to be their friend. Like, I want this guy, I got this guy on my team. Like, that is good, I like that. Oh yeah, you to beat the hell out of Butcher, that was fun, I suppose. - That was really fun. That was really fun to see lives too, so. I love him using the cattle mutilation. That's a fun piece of stuff, totally. So, some good stuff on there, but if you want to get. - Oh, no, some terrible stuff. Chris Jericho ruined everything. I forgot about that, Chris Jericho ruined everything. Just let Big Bill and Kyle O'Reilly fight a best of seven. Just do that, just do that. Just take everything else out of the way, let Mark Briscoe go back to Rorrow Age, defend his title over there. Chris Jericho could take a vacation forever. Brian Keith can do literally anything else. And then Big Bill and Kyle O'Reilly can fight a best of 77, and I'll watch all the matches. - He did also get one of these. - We did get one of those. They stole Max Caster's stupid jacket. (laughing) - We're touching all the tips. - There you go. - Oh, we're here, love that for us. But if you want to get more sour, if you want to see a SmackDown review alternative to this, while watching Rampage Along, check out us on Partfuls.com. I'm sorry that you didn't get any trying being a woman next time. - I guess I'm going to have to be, I suppose. All right, well, I'm going to go check my inbox. Maybe something went to my spam folder. - It's true, it's possible. - Okay, all right, well, have fun, everybody. Bye! - I'll be reviewing a movie with job rule Stormy Daniel and Batista with that man and not that long from now. So let's talk about the rest of this guy. It's getting those super chats and hopper chats. We are coming down the home stretch, but before we dive back into it, I gotta say, I thought that Alex would not like that segment. And in fact, I would have placed money on such a thing Alex. It would be very weird if they took prop bets on whether or not Alex liked someone. It would be a really bad and obvious betting one because Alex's way of viewing things makes it very clear what side he's going to follow on his stuff. But I'll tell you what, if you want to bet on wrestling, if you want to bet on football, if you want to bet on anything with the earliest betting lines in the whole wide world, you should head over to bet online. - I want to talk to you guys about our great partner at BetOnline AG. Yes, the place that lets you bet on pro wrestling. We've gotten our pro wrestling betting odds from them for years well before we even worked with them. And we're going to tell you a little bit more about them. They got the earliest lines, the fastest payout, the industry best bonuses. 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Guys, get in here, Super Jetsy, your Hanper Jetsy got those main events to talk about, but Alex, I don't know how many times we've set on the show that we are just blown away by the way that Chelsea Greed maximizes her TV time. Like, I really am impressed by it every week. And Chelsea Greed wearing a pink construction hat to train them for their dumpster match as she's taking out the trash is unbelievable. She is so freaking funny. She really just, I think, views things in a very valuable way of what can I do when I'm given X amount of time to leave a lasting impression and to help advance my story? That's it. It's very simple. It's very effective. She's unbelievable. Even in little things like this, like just absolutely, absolutely fantastic. Any thoughts on that? I just, I can't gush enough about what Chelsea Greed does on a weekly basis. - I said it, I was on Danny's stream on YouTube, and I was letting, I was talking back and forth with some people in her chat, and I was just like, "Dude, she is always on top of her game. "She's always trying something new. "She's not scared to put herself out there. "She's so smart. "She's definitely one of them that I think would "and is going to be great "once a women's mid-card title gets put into the picture." - Definitely. - I think she is definitely one that will 100% take advantage of that role. She was so, I mean, everything, the acting, the way she was throwing things around and the way that she was putting down, meet you in the way she was like, just nasty. But you know who she really is and like, but her character is just like mean. It was good. I do hope that wherever this goes, it's meaningful for these women. And like, we didn't have to, that people know that Vicki was the one who suggested this trash match. I could have just said it was what a great match is gonna be. And it's cool that they're bringing back a lot of the old stuff like this, like dumpster matches and whatever. Those are things that were from back in my day when I was a young little lad watching the WWL. So yeah. - I also appreciate that they picked up some of the talent rotation a little bit. Like, I think if SmackDown moves to three hours, which is an "it" according to Fightful's reporting-- - What? - The heads up, we are not confirmed by us. If they go to three hours, they're gonna need to beef up their rosters a little bit. But the talent rotation on the women's side is something that has gotten a lot better, I feel like under this regime, where you're seeing more women in meaningful stories than you were. Then you were. We'll call out something that I agree with here, saying I do like how Naya's not stupid and how she keeps siding with Tiffany because she knows the feeling of being casted on before. Yes, Naya being aware that Tiffany kind of feels like a ticking time bomb, keeping her in check as much as she possibly can. I think it's something that's really, really good. It's something really, really good. Brian Silly say I miss Candace Lorre on ice cream. Man, I don't get it. She's one of the best women's wrestlers in the world. Andy Hartwell was a promising NXT talent. The NXT handoffs are horrendous. It's something that they really, really need to work on. Really, really need to work on. I miss those two too. They deserve a much fairer shake than they've gotten. But let's get into the bloodline stuff here. Get in those Super Chats and Hopper Chats. We kind of talked about what's going on with Kevin Owens earlier before he comes to the ring. He says he's going to let his. 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I really, really don't, but they're also one of my favorite tag teams in the world. So I'm always gonna be rooting for them all the time, but our methods of going to a no contest, unfortunately. I thought it was fun and ring wise. I don't think this needed to go to no contest, but the bloodline keep attacking Kevin Owens, Dawkins and Ford. DIY try to help, but they get taken out. Cody Rhodes, of course, makes the safe for the good guys and KO looks like he was gonna turn on Cody with the chair, but decides not to for now. I think we're slow burning this heel turn from KO. I could see Randy Orton coming back into play on it. That triumvirate of guys just feels like they're not gonna disband without some shit going down. So I think that would make plenty of sense, but Kevin Owens is an interesting one. They might be slow burning the heel turns because maybe he is gonna enter free agency and you don't wanna make sweeping creative efforts if somebody could be leaving your company. I think we've seen that with Daniel Garcia on the other side of things, right? So I do think that there's so much value in what Kevin Owens does. He has fought the bloodline a lot, like both iterations of them. It's been like them at Austin Theory and Grayson Waller. And I think it would be refreshing if he could move up and on. Him facing Cody, I think is something that could be great, but like I was Michael saying, that he can't believe he had to root against Kevin Owens because of Montes, it definitely, nothing to do with him having a crush on Bianca Belair. He does not like Montes Ford based on his in-ring work. Definitely not because he covets his wife in any way, shape or form. But I got to see my cousin Michael at Wednesday's Dynamite. So nice to see him in here. Not trolling me about bird notice for a change, but this, something that WWE is good at is interweaving their stories more often than not. Sometimes, they get so interwoven that things become very convoluted. And I understand what two hours you're trying to get a lot of people on TV, and it's a challenge to keep people feeling over and as important as possible. Stuff like this is a bridge too far for me. Like DIY getting this involved, having no real explanation why the street profits are on the good guy side of this. They just kind of showed up in a boyfriends with Cody one day. Like, I think we ever got clear motivations or intentions on that. So if you are going to build out something this complex, I think that there's ways to have creative lines that are cleaner to get you there. But that's the way they close the shelf. I like Kevin Owens feeling important. I think the handwriting is on the wall for where we're going with survivor series certainly, but what did you think of our main event here? - There was a fine match. A couple of fellers in there jumping around the ring. I said this again, I was talking and it's fun to hear the crowd gasp and when they're doing all these toe pays and all that stuff. 'Cause listen, I'm an avid AW watcher and that's something that they're free to do. The wrestling is a little bit different over there, but it's cool to kind of see that kind of wrestling on SmackDown and see all these, the bloodline just jumping through around and you got Montez doing, you know, jumping 36 feet in the air and doing a somersault and Fatou just killing everyone, it's fun. It's fun to see that style of wrestling on WWE television and I'm glad that they're doing it. I am feeling a little bit exhausted with the bloodlines and with the S at the end. - They're doing bloodlines. - Yeah, I feel like we've been stuck in a really long looping episode of Groundhog Day since 2021 and I don't know like how they break from this because even when bloodline 1.0 was doing the link down, we were like, oh my God, what's gonna happen? What is the world gonna think of now? Bloodline 2.0, you know, so I am growing a little tired. I know a lot of people are in love with this stuff but you know, I just, I wanna see something else because Cody's been, Cody since he came back to WWE, this is the only story he's been a part of. This is the only thing he's done. - It has been very heavy on that for Cody. - Oh my goodness, yes, I just wanna see where it goes. - Never really clicked in 'cause the booking was so weird around it, like, I agree with you and I think there's layers of intrigue here that are fresh but at the end of the day, it's kind of tricky and I don't know how you solve this creative challenge and it's not my problem, so. - No, and then you're gonna have Roman, you know, put his team together and you know, you're gonna have the 1.0 versus the 2.0, you know, and whatever else happens and whoever else gets infused into these matches but, okay, cool. - The only issue with it is there's two things that you can do right now, which is one, book it logically, which is super predictable, or if you wanna make it interesting, you have to book it illogically, which is bad. Like, so that's the creative challenge that they have to solve of, like, we can do the wrestling math about who's gonna win a million miles away. We can see the numbers game come into effect every single time. We know Cody is gonna have friends to call on and that they might not even justify why. So it's like if you're gonna do it logically, that's really predictable. They need to figure out a way to keep the story spicier because to do the fundamental things that you need to do to advance the story, it is kind of exhausted is a good word 'cause it's exhausted from the perspective of we saw this for three years already and it was getting old at the end of Roman's reign. Now it's a very similar formula with new people. - And I'm gonna leave it at this as well. History, there's this old saying the history repeats itself, which is 100% very true. Fads come back, things always work themselves around. We're in a 90s fab now, right? Everything is 90s, you can go into any shopping center now or clothing store. My old clothes from 1995 is hanging on a rack for triple the price now. So this is very NWO-esque from back in the day where the group just kept on getting big and they had the 1.0s, the 2.0s, the 3.0s, they left for a while, then they came back, right? So this is starting to feel a little bit like that. I've been around the block a couple times now in the wrestling biz and I'm starting to feel that way again with this certain group. I understand it's a totally different level now, but I hope they start, like you said, mixing it up or something just because I am just a little bit exhausted with it. We come here and that's pretty much our show was about. We're always just like, this happens with the blood end of the beginning. There's two matches in the middle, a cinematic scene, and then at the end, we're once again interweaving the bloodline into our show again. I think, you know what was funny, I was talking to SB3 on the ROH photo yesterday. And when we get really small episodes of ROH, she brings a list with him, which is fun. We do like the top five, whatever. Because of what happened on the internet this week, he brought his top five, Brian Danielson versus Nigel McGinnis matches from ROH. And what was so interesting about going through them is the builds to so many of them are like blueprints, textbooks of plots forgotten that every wrestling company should be bringing back. There was a whole build that was Nigel McGinnis saying, if you want to get to me, Brian Danielson, you have to be everybody that I be on the road here. Like such a simple story that doesn't really get told anymore. So I would like to see them freshen up the playbook. I would like to see both companies freshen up the playbook. It's quite frankly. Yes, please both. We see a lot of repeat stuff. So this is a tricky one. I think the way through it, it's dissension between Jacob Fatou and Solo. I think you start building those now because Jacob Fatou is like the hottest thing you've got coming into this. So I think there's plenty of juice left. They just got to maximize it the best way possible. But that was our episode for tonight. Thank you guys so much for the support today. Thank you so much for subscribing to fightpluslaw.com. We encourage you to do so if you haven't already. Please leave a tip touch in the comments here. The thumbs up on your way out. But Alex, where can people find you? Hey, you can find me everywhere and anywhere by just going into the IG. That's not everywhere and anywhere. But IG is all that I have right now that I really use that heart and threads. Alexis Cardoza, you could just find me on the Twitter @underscarlocs, Cardoza. And hey, really quickly, I just want to say thank you to all of you for always coming on here and supporting, for supporting online, for just being used, you know? I mean, it's simple. I appreciate the kindness and support from the people and our wonderful community. Yes. Check them out on that PIPELE Select Us, Cardo, if you're not a part of it. You can find me mostly on threads now. I'm pretty burnt out. I love that for you. Let's go. Ridiculous that we have to be filing police reports over people being idiots on that app. But that's the way it goes. So I'll be able to read more. I'm Miss Kate Fevon, all social media. You can find me here on PIPELE. Every Monday on PIPELE, select with Alex Flowski, Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays on the main channel. So you're NFT, ROH, and SmackDown, post-shows, and Wednesdays at the Mark Order podcast, talking all things I'll leave. But on this Wednesday, it's time to be a Grand Slam, as we'll show-- Grand Slam. As well, I think a couple-- I think Preston's going to be there in a couple of other people, so please say hi. If you see us at Grand Slam, I'm very excited to go to that. We've got some fun stuff lined up there. But you'll have this Alex and Alex Flowski covering your AEW post-show, so-- Double A's, baby. Yeah, Alex. You guys, thank you so much. Have a safe and wonderful wrestling weekend. We're out of here. Bye, bye. When you need meal time inspiration, it's worth shopping king supers for thousands of appetizing ingredients that inspire countless mouth-watering meals. And no matter what tasty choice you make, you'll enjoy our everyday low prices. Plus, extra ways to save, like digital coupons worth over $600 each week, and up to $1 off per gallon at the pump with points so you can get big flavors and big savings, king supers, fresh for everyone, fuel restrictions apply. What's next? 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