I got a free ticket to drain because my buddy took military, he got off of me, so I took that off with him, because he never paid me, so he just traded. And I almost didn't go because I was so tired from walking around Millville all day. We got my buddy and I got up to preserving, because it's like a 30-minute drive from Millville. They had five bands on the tour. The fourth one was on when we walked in, and I almost passed out just standing there from being in the sun all day, and then getting into this crowd shoulder with a bunch of big sweaty dudes. That's why I didn't go to Maryland death fest this year. I was just like, "It's hot out," and I almost had heat stroke last year at Maryland death. I was like, "I really want to go, but I can't go by myself again. I will die of heat stroke." Right. But then my buddy and I sat up in the, so they have seats and they're kind of open to anybody up top for, "What the hell is their name?" It turns the nest, that's Graham, that they're a new hardcore. Yeah, scum. No, they're a new hardcore man. No, it wasn't scum. It's chilling now. It's scum. It's scum. It's stubble. Look at that. Samuel. Samuel. Come with me. Sammy. Come to me. Samson. Oh, Samson. I was way off. But then Tara was on, and those dudes, my friend and I went into the record store during it because I was so tired and I didn't want to, like, I didn't want anything to do with that crowd. I saw a video the next day of Tara being up, like, Tara up on stage, and like, some guy had his son in front of him, like, up against the stage, and as soon as the pit started, he's just hugging his son from behind as tight as possible because, like, dudes were jumping up on stage, like flailing around, jumping off. We were just talking about it, but if you have a significant other or somebody you care about at the front of the stage at a metal show, they're going to get crushed. This is also the same band that has merch or has had merch that just said "make hardcore violent" again. Hell yeah. I love those shirts. Listen. Like I said, whenever I see those hardcore shirts, I feel like I want to be a, I'm not a hardcore dude. I like some hardcore, but like, whenever I see those shirts, I'm like, I should get more into hardcore. I think I've decided that I'm going to tie down festival next year. Hell yeah. You have fun. I'm coming. Let's go. You have fun that came out, like, okay, turn the fucking house lights on everyone so you could see the entire room, the entire show, and they only played like 10 songs for their 45 minutes. They were up. 10 songs of 45 minutes? I mean, 10 songs in four minutes? Yeah, I was going to say that's a very hardcore. What's funny is when my buddy and I were walking out, like, they do a cover of good, good things and when we were walking out, that was the only song that we could get stuck in our head because that's the only one that had a melody to it. At one point, their center was like, we were standing on one side of the room right outside of the record store. It's this old giant church and like the Anitarius, the record store, and their center was like, okay, for everyone on this side of the room, meaning like the far side, the left side of the room, I want you to know, there's a cool ass record store on this side over here. I want all of you on this side to wind up in that record store by the end of this song and within seconds, the whole pitch shifted from the center to the side that we were on. Like, the center of gravity just completely moved and my buddy and I were standing right on the edge of it and out of nowhere, this kid just comes pummeling through everybody, pushes me out of the way, grabs my friend by the shoulders and throws him up against the wall, like in the door frame of the record store, like just starts dancing in front of him going, we did it, we did it. Then for their last song, they're like, we want to see everyone up on this fucking stage right now. And the whole crowd just bum rushed the stage completely. They were just passing the mic around to everybody on stage. They've ever been like, this happened at Alpha Wolf when I saw them a few weeks ago. And when you're at a show like that, and they say something like, I want to see everybody up on stage, you're like, Alpha Wolf was like, I don't want to see any of you not having crowd surfed. You can see new security guards spawn on each side, just like, just they're like, and the ones that are there, just like, fuck, I have to work, and it's just like, it's so funny. I had the idea that they were just like, oh shit, oh, you kidding me, you got to get out there. Exactly. What did he say? The same thing happened when I was at, luckily, it's a little bit of a bigger venue at the Fillmore in Silver Spring. The end, when I went to see Barry tomorrow, and Electric Call Boy, and Barry tomorrow was like, this is the song that people are supposed to crowd surf to, and then everybody was like, yeah, I'll do it. That was a huge venue of people. The pit somehow was near the back. So like, there were people starting from the pit and just crowd surfing the entire length of the venue, and it was just like, this was, that's the first time I did crowd surf during that song. That was the first time I've done it in years. And mostly because some dude grabbed me and I was like, I guess this is happening. You didn't even want it. It just started. I was like, I think I'm ready to like, get out of the pit. Like, I can't breathe very well. And then some dude was just like, your turn, and I was like, oh, I guess so. See, I've always wanted to crowd surf. I'm a pretty big guy. So like, I can't. Oh, you can do it. 280 almost sits foot like, there's no way it's it. I'm going to hurt someone. No, you got it. So it. Nah. Plus, I don't want to risk my batch. I'm getting old, dude, speaking of getting old, getting old, like, we're about to jump into our whole little unit, if you will, about getting old, welcome to just my variety. I'm Jared. That's Mikey. And that's Vinnie. Say hi, guys. Hi, everyone. Hey. Hi. Hey, everyone. This is just my variety. And we're here to talk about getting old. And we're doing something a little different this time around. We're doing what we're calling the 30 for 30. Each of us is doing one because, uh, Vinnie turned 30 a couple years ago, might you just turn 30 earlier this year? And as of recording this, I haven't turned 30 yet, but we're getting our countdown to Jared's back falling apart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Buddy, it fell apart 10 years ago. Don't even. It fell apart in college. It's not go there. So 30 for 30, 30 songs for 30 years. Each one of us built a playlist based on their own criteria of what they wanted to showcase for those 30 years, whether it's like a history of those 30 years, whether it's what you're listening to now, whether it's nostalgia, your criteria is your own. So I'm going to let Vin take things away with this one, just this is his playlist. So I made a 30 for 30. This was a creative endeavor that I decided I was going to take because I like to make playlists as we're here in a place where we make playlists and share songs we like. The whole theme. It's the whole theme of the show. Listen to us talk about what we like. I had to make this a few years ago, so I've been trying to figure out, like, what was going on. Um, so looking at the playlist, it is obviously not in gear order. Like, it starts out with big boys shine blockers. It came out in 2008. It would have probably been my, like, album of the year of, like, 2009, maybe even 2010. My nephew still says, "Remember how much you made us listen to that big boy album? So it was just left foot?" Yes, I remember that very much because I listened to it the whole time. But then there's other things sprinkled in here of like, it bounces around because then we go into 2016 with the Falcon and then beat it with Michael Jackson. And that would have been when I was like three or four. I want you to know, listening to those first three songs today in the car, I realize I was like, just these first three songs are so like encapsulates. Every time I've told anybody about Vinny and his music tastes, like this is exactly that. It goes from the R&B hip hop to the Falcon to Michael Jackson. I was just like, this is the variety that people expect. And the thing with that Michael Jackson song, it's the one that Eddie Van Halen guest starred on. Like, that's Eddie Van Halen's guitar solo. It's exactly what I want. The general basis of it is just like songs that like really were like, when I sat down to think about this playlist, I was like, what are songs that I would just listen to on repeat for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours? Just like trying to recollect like, so my birthday is in February and listen to this. It probably was spawned after like seeing the Spotify wrapped and being like, what were the songs that if I could sit down and think about the songs I've listened to the most in my life? If I spotify rap for my entire life at this point, what songs do I think would be on there? And that was very much the basis of like where my head was at when I was listening to these. Instead of like an annual Spotify wrapped, it was more just a lifetime Spotify wrapped. Exactly. Exactly. Now, just imagine doing this from your deathbed at one point. Oh, God. That's an, that's how I'm going to occupy myself as I fade into the duck, so I fade into blackness, just thinking about, just thinking about all the music that I listen to. Then he's top 100. That's how we get the final top 100. Yeah. Yeah. Then my final act would be to release my top 100. For years, I've always, I've always deflected the answer of like your favorite song. When I die, you get the answer. In the, in the hospital surrounded by family, he's like, it's coming. Britain me my laptop. I hear you typing away, puts everything on that he's like, it's complete. Bring me my quest. Bring me my beta quest, 45. My mechanical shoulder comes alive, like we can't open up our arm for my mechanical shoulder comes alive and I, and sure enough, it displays as I die and they let the batteries. Well, of course, strange from my arm. You'll be connected to your, your Spotify implant. Right. Of course. Sorry. Yes. Cause when I die, upload me to Spotify because our, oh, we won't be making playlists on computers or phones anymore at that time. We'll be making them. My fourth disc down will be replaced with just a Spotify disc. It'll be the logo. It will still be voice activated. So I'll have to be spine play the tramps. Everyone names are spine a different thing. I think this is a black mirror episode. It's not. I know. Right. Probably it is. If it's not, it should be. There isn't a, so there isn't a black mirror episodes, but there is the SNL series. I don't know. I think it's Willem Dafoe. You can get a chip that plays your favorite song over and over and over again. And eventually you hear it so much. It's like travels it. And eventually you listen to it so much, your brain just flat lines and you just become a zombie. We'll link it on the show notes. Well, Vin, we all know yours is going to be Mambo number five, right? Oh, for sure. That's your last action. My last gift to the world is to remind everyone that Mambo number five exists. But then as the lights start to go out, you just hear, and here is Mambo number six and just it finally releases this last song I hear before I die. That note, we use that every time Vinny is close to death. It's the trigger. My death is the trigger. Every time Vinny is close to death, he releases another Mambo and it revives Vinny. That way Vinny lives forever. Yeah. I keep, I keep coming back. I never truly died. Blue bag is cheap. Vinny alive everybody. Absolutely. It's like those monks that are able to just stay like still for years at a time. It's just Vinny's standing there, oh, his heart's fading and he's like, quick, blue bag, or release another Mambo. And he does. And here I am. So because, because of this playlist is 30 songs, we didn't want to spend three hours going song by song detail by detail on each one. That's not fair to do to us or you guys or, or producer, JH. My team and I came up with a few questions to, to kind of like either highlights or comments or questions about this playlist, specific songs, general questions about it. So why don't you start off, Mikey? Yeah. What do you got? My immediate thought while making this because when I was making mine, I had a very specific order for my entire playlist. So like, what is the method? I know you mentioned it a little bit about like you went through and you picked songs that like you were on repeat, but is there a method to like order of these is like telling by the, the age of some of these songs on this playlist? I don't think Big Boy Gucci Mane was like the first song you ever heard that you were like, this is my personality now. Right. Right. Because that's what mine is. Mine is I took songs that I remember. I remember this is the first song I love. This is like the second song and that kind of like going through the years. Did you do something similar to that? Or was this just kind of just make the trying to grab everything that you could? This was a little more chaotic than other playlists I put together. Do you still have a flow of order or was it just? I think it was just vibes. I think it was just putting it together because looking at it, there's no reason I would put I am a revenant and then dead flag blues and then trusty chords. I have questions about that too. What's funny about that though is when if you listen to this in order, it does work. I'm a revenant to dead flag blues. I don't know about that one as soon as as soon as that last, as soon as that last violin drops out, you just hear the the chords from trusty chords kick in down that and you're like, Oh, okay, I'm back. I'm back in. We're back. We're zoning out and then we're going back in. Yeah, exactly. It gives you some good whiplash to keep you going. Exactly. I think there's certain points that are like there was some thought too, but like for the most part, this doesn't look like this looks like I put them in and was like, I'll fix the order later and never got around and later never came. So most of this is just as you remember going through, it was like, Oh, this song, this song. Uh huh. I knew there was some moving around of things and then there was the issue of like, how do I whittle down to 30? Cause I obviously didn't put 30 songs on initially and be like, this is it. I put like a hundred and then had to start cutting it and then shave down the cars on fire and there's no driver at the wheel. And the sewers are all moneyed with a thousand lonely suicides and a dark wind blows. I do have another question that directly about Godspeed, you black emperor. Yeah, because let's go listen, I really enjoy it. I've been getting way into drone kind of soundscape. Host rock. Uh, yeah. And did you choose dead flag blues because dead flag blues is your favorite Godspeed, you black emperor or was this your favorite Godspeed, you black emperor album and you were just like, I need to pick a song. Do you remember if it was like, if you choose because I'm big into sleep, I'm big into like cold body radiation, all that post rock, Godspeed, I have a couple of Godspeed, you black emperor records, I can't tell you if I could tell any of the songs apart. Maybe I'm just not cultured in my post rock drone, but I think I've listened to enough Godspeed at this point where I think it's more upsetting that I can tell them apart than not. That's fair. Cause listening to this, I was like, if you put any like minute part of this song away and I put it on in front of me, I'd be like, I don't know if I could tell which post rock band this is. No, I think the problem is I think there is a problem that I can. The albums that I listen to the most are F sharp, a sharp infinity, lift your skinny fists and then slow right for New Zero Canada. Those albums were the ones that made me the Godspeed fan I am today. Depending on when I made this, it could have been either Moya, Blaze Bailey Finnegan the third or Dead Flag Blues. That day it happened to be Dead Flag Blues. I think it's just kind of like the song that everyone knows from Godspeed because of the cars on fire, the cars on fire and there's no driver at the wheel. It's just like one of the most quoted lines of all of Godspeed. It's like one of those things that people like most memes about Godspeed have that line in the title. The other one that could have been is from Littor Skinny Fist's Sleep. But I think I shied away from that one because I had a tough night run night and I listened to Sleep on Repeat for like too long for a healthy person to listen to. So at least three songs, right? Yeah. Well no, the problem was I kept repeating the first verse. I kept going. I was like the old man talking about there's no one's sleeps on the beach anymore. But I listened to that. I would let it play and it'd hit back. Let it play and hit back. Let it play and hit back. Was it that you just wanted to hear it again or you just were zoning out and want to like repay attention? I was paying attention to it. It was one of those things where like when you say a word on repeat and when you say a word on repeat, it becomes something else. I was listening to his voice like where the inflections came and the, that was the first time I heard the house sad he sounded at the end of they don't sleep anymore on the beach where he gets like choked up and you can hear it. Like that was the first time I heard it and I was like, this is the most powerful thing I've ever heard in my entire life. You know, it was like one of those situations where it just like hits you like a lightning boat and you like half. I was like, I have to listen to this again. I had to listen to this again. As I was going through and listening to this playlist, anytime a song came up that I loved, I'm like, I just wanted to listen to that album and then would just have to keep continuing through the playlist. Dead flat blues was definitely one of those and I haven't listened to a lot of God speed. You're the one that's like always been pushing them on me and I've, I've just never had the time to sit down and actually pay attention to them. It's a lot and hearing dead flat blues a couple times in the last couple days. This felt like a great introduction to them. Yeah. I think it's definitely a really good introduction to them because I tried listening to Luciferian towers when it came out and that was a, that was a tough time. The newer records. Alleluia don't bend a send and Luciferian towers are tough lessons, like even for me, I think they've definitely grown on me. But like, I would urge anyone who wants to get into post-rock, who wants to get into God speed, start with F# A#, slow ride for New Zero Canada or electro-skinny fists. Thinking about it, when you were saying how sleep specifically, like you would listen to on repeat over and over again, I found myself doing this with two songs in this playlist. One of which was maps. I just got to say, personally, like, I've been in this song as a goddamn masterpiece. Like, this is one of the most beautifully written songs I've ever heard. I remember hearing it 15 years ago at this point because it was on, it was on the first rock band and that was the first place I had heard the AaaS. I never really thought much about it, but just listening to it these past couple days on repeat over and over and over again, like, I started to tear up listening to it. Like, tell me your, your relationship with the song and then I wanted to bring something else up with it. I'll use a quote that Cheyenne said to me, it was, she's like, you always say that you want to relearn piano because I do, I want to relearn my piano. I played when I was a kid and I bounced around to a couple different instruments, but she said it sounds like the real instrument that you want to learn and you want to, we want to be is the drums and I was like, absolutely, the drums will pull me to any song immediately. Obviously, there is like, quote unquote, better drum songs, but I don't know anything that like, if you say what's your song that has your favorite drums, it's like, oh, it's the way the drums go through that song is just so, I just want the track for the drums. Just to have that as like, almost like a rhythm in my head that, it's so pleasing. I don't know. There's, it's so simple. It's one of those songs where it's like, it's so simple, I can't believe no one thought of it before you guys. Oh, it lines up with like that siren sounding guitar or like, droning sounding guitar in the background so well, it just kind of keeps that keeps the rhythm like perpetuating throughout the entire song and like, it really keeps you engaged, like even going into the chorus where that crash hits, it hits and it's, it's pummeling. You just hear like, Karen knows like, soft voice over, it's heart melting in a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It builds the whole, there is a build to it where like, it gets more intense. So ever so slowly, like you can almost see the, the line just slowly creep up as it gets more, as the song goes through. It's one of those songs where I just like, I put it on so many playlists, I don't even realize I'm putting on playlists anymore. My follow up to this was, did you ever notice she changes the lyrics in the second chorus? Yeah. She wrote it for her boyfriend at the time, the center from the liars. And it's, I mean, it's a love song. It's just a straight up love song. What was his name, Angus Andrew, the chorus literally just says, wait, they don't love you like I love you on repeat multiple times. But in the second chorus specifically, she changes the first two, wait, they don't love you like I love you to wait. They don't love me like I love you. And I like that just, that all it gives me chills to even say that out loud. To say that like, your audience doesn't love you the way I do. Have you ever seen the video for the song? Yeah. Where it's, where it's them performing, just performing in front of us. Do you know, do you know the story behind that video or like why she starts crying at a point? So she talks and the meet me in the bathroom documentary, she talks about this. First of all, Karen Oh was like known for her onstage antics was like kicking shit all over the stage, like throwing stuff off stage with like ram into the drum set, like I literally would destroy the stage and like it got to the point where she was actually hurting herself on stage. So when it came to doing the maps music video, part of it was like to show restraint and like she would just stay in one place the whole time. She stands in one place for the whole shoot and Angus was supposed to show up to the shoot that day because he, him and his band were supposed to go on tour for months at a point. And during the shoot, he was three hours late. So like doing take after take after take, she never thought he was going to show up. And then it was like during one of like the close ups of her that he walked in and that's one of her. She starts tearing up that like, Oh, he actually showed up and like to see her sing this song to him as he's showing up like it just that's when you see that it just it means so much more. I think. And I don't know, I just think all around this is like a completely perfect song and I love coming back to this every so often this whole album to like I'd love some point to do it to dive back into this album. I'm so happy you put this one in here because I don't know why more couples don't use this as a wedding song to be honest with you. Yeah. Look at me. Look at me. Hands in the air like it's good to be alive and I'm a famous rapper, even when the passer off crooked D. I can show you how to do see dough. I can show you how to scratch a record. I can take apart the remote control that I can almost put it back together under a track I think personally and I messaged you offline about this and this is another one I got to revisit every probably every year to remind myself it exists. Flowbots handlebars, baby. Tell me more. Talk to me about this. When this came on and I was instantly transported back to delivering pizzas and this being on the radio like every three songs is coming back on and I was like whoa I forgot about this song. Yeah. I was hanging out with my cousin and her boyfriend at the time because he had it in his car and the things are playing all of a sudden I hear the song I'm like what is this? And I eventually found it go home and found it on iTunes I assume. Let's tell you how old this is if you're looking for stuff on iTunes. Yeah. And then it definitely ended up on my iPod but then I ended up buying the album too to quote my manager from Applebee's when I was 19 years old. It was better than it had any right to be. Yes. Yes. So much better. Something was so good. It really opened my eyes to a lot of stuff. I think the line I said to Jared was it was my Macklemore. Which is still that's such a bold statement to compare Flowbots to Macklemore. Yeah. What are like like the thought of like you know he made all these like very goofy songs that were like they had some thought there but I mean you can't take him seriously because he's Macklemore or it's like the one like for serious though Flowbots have these songs about just like huge huge issues and it opened my mind up to like hey maybe rap isn't bad maybe hip hop isn't bad like you're going to be fine you know like it opened up a lot of doors for a lot of white kids to hear like oh rap oh hip hop and it can be something different than what they're playing on the radio. Not to mention it didn't have to be over like a beat that was like digitize it like they wrote all of their own music too and I just read somewhere while was getting ready for this episode that like they tried to do that with like a drum with like a computerized drum beat and like digitized production once and they said we'll never do that again like we're just we're gonna just make everything ourselves now. Have you listened to this entire album Mikey? No I've listened to this song a million times on the radio in the car. Okay. I'll be honest until like two years after this came out I don't know why but I thought it this was that comedy duo um flater the conchords for the longest time don't know why. I love that see I always thought this conflated because when I was working like like voiced out camp during lunch well the kids one of the other kids were all like out we're actually eating lunch when we were working the the BB gun range we'd be playing music and the kids I was working with blasted that and Asher Ross I love college so I always got the two of those conflated with each other yeah I was never able to listen to handlebars because of that but yeah that song is so ahead of its time yeah that whole album actually sounds like it should be dropped today and it doesn't feel like it is aged yeah it has a vibe that it could have come out of 2020 mm-hmm definitely I could see that which I listened to in 2020 I was when I was working at a restaurant it was just me in the back that day and I was like I'll listen to an album I have listened to and I just put it on I was like this is quite on the nose for right now exactly there's a war going on for your mind it's literally about like it's literally about media commiting attention media competing for each other like there is not a single line that's out of place on that album not to mention in handlebars itself like I didn't see your face on the telephone like that was before FaceTime was a thing to your point when we were talking about maps like that how the song just builds and builds and builds and builds and builds that one is like the perfect definition of it builds to the perfect crescendo and just drops off right at the end the song is a great build yeah not to mention that that video is still heartbreaking to this day the animation the kids like riding bites together all it's so tough but in the age of like Elon Musk it that song is very hard to listen to but still so great it's true though I'm not I'm not arguing with you we've managed to piss off half of the big four Elon Musk and a great event fleet just got the rest it took go through you know who are our big four hello see your next why do you want to go over the past few years and this is a good kind of segue from from Flowbots I've been learning a lot more about hip-hop that I actually like as somebody growing up in entirely metal I like the general consensus was just like oh hip-hop's bad right and I was I was like that for a little while but I started getting more into it and I realized I'm very into like the more like like beat centric I like a little bit of the older hip-hop the backpackers yeah that's the term we get a lot once I found the Flowbots I found that there was a thing called backpack wrap and I get a lot of flack for it from my nephew but I don't give him flack for what he listens to so back off exactly but like DJ Shadow never had never heard of I was a big fan of like that song is really good and I saved that might be I've said this before but I and I don't want to any spoilers for my deathbed but it might be my favorite song of all time like it is just throwing it is top three and I don't know where it falls in the top three but if it doesn't fall at number one I don't know it's been such a staple of my life for so long it's funny too because stuff like like this made me kind of realize that like I was so entrenched in like I got into electronica like a lot of different electronic music and then kind of realizing that there's like a pretty thin line between like hip-hop beats and music and all that stuff and then electronica they kind of go side by side with each other and I never really like put it together until I started listening to more of both and realizing that like they share a lot of similarities I mean they're all like homegrown like samples mixing lots of technicality to them whereas like a lot of rap and hip-hop I didn't like growing up was like the more popular stuff that was like the party kind of rap like lots of very like over-the-top gangster rap which I was never like super into and I'm realizing that there can be more than just that and there's stuff like this there was another one on here um the big boy Gucci Mane like that song is a really good like it's got a really good flow to it and I really enjoy like the instrumentality to it and I'm realizing that there's a lot of good stuff like that and I and I it seems like I'm gonna definitely save more of that album but it seems like that's a pretty good place for me to start if I'm gonna start listening to a hip-hop. Mikey if you're the only person that I convinced that there's there's good music out there I've won you already have the whole point of this I know I didn't listen to punk until you started showing me punk that's the thing though because it's like that's a huge part of this entire thing that we've started there's so much music that you're not listening to of genres you're calling bad and you're not listening to the genres so I can't take you seriously. Don't worry it's not just me I've also been whenever you give me recommendations I really like I pass them on to my old roommate and he's like Vinnie doesn't miss and I'm just like all he knows is that you're my music go-to guy I showed him Janelle Monet like a couple of days ago right before we went to go see Symphony X and even and he's like this guy's got it on point he showed you this and I was like and I was like yeah dude like you showed me he told me listen to this album buyer and I was like and he's like dude this is sick are there any others besides DJ Shadow that you recommend for like more of the the beat hip-hop kind of and producing is like an amazing album it's just so good what I do like it's called handsome boy modeling school hell yeah so how's your girl and white people is also good because they have instrumental versions of some of their stuff those two are classics no matter what band it is if you put on an instrumental version of your music yes you are like you know what people want because they've exactly exactly it's so good when there's an instrumental version might you if you pull up a holy calamity by handsome boy modeling school you'd recognize them from Tony Hawk soundtracks mm-hmm I forget which one it was on but it was definitely on one of those I used to go in the old Tony oxen I would just I would anything that didn't say punk or metal on it I would turn off I was such a I'm growing I'm learning I hey I was the same way for many years and then I realized that I was wrong yeah and it took me until my mid 20s to get to that point so I'm I'm I'm with you I didn't get that I got there before my 20s I got lucky I knew a handful of people that were really really good that has an amazing music tastes and just like we're very aggressively showing me different stuff and it was like oh wow there is a lot of stuff that I do like so I feel like I have to be now with people where it's like you got to be a little more aggressive because you'd be like hey did you listen to it did you listen to it for sure this out for ages I'm constantly I think maybe like it's like spam mail like five percent of it works Mikey another one I will throw out and this is for everyone because I don't think enough people listen to these guys Conan linguists the album is will rap for food I love this you showed me these guys I love this is another one this is one of those ones where I stumbled across it off of iTunes iMixes those are old I fell in love so I gotta throw this out there as a comment like we were just talking about like rediscovering stuff that was missing and I gotta say thank you for putting the national in here they're one of those bands that have always been in my radar like they've always circled around I've heard one or two songs there and they've always been that one like you gotta listen you gotta check them out and I have to say thank you for showing them to me now and putting this specific song in there because if I would have found this 10 years ago I would have been the most insufferable person on the planet like I heard blood buzz Ohio and I'm like this is incredible this is sad I love all of this and then listen to high violet today while I was working and thought I would have been obsessed with this in high school and college it was tough it was tough to not tell everyone in the world not to listen to blood buzz Ohio right and so that one that one specifically this sounds like the perfect place to start with the national and now I just want to go through their whole discography but I'm not going to be that incessant little asshole you'll be able to stop yourself I'll be able to stop and restrain myself on this one so here's the thing we weren't stopping ourselves from telling everyone to listen to the national everyone forced the national on everyone and it was I'm aware yeah I'm glad I held off now because I can enjoy it without without any stigma around or any or any sort of like backlash for suggesting it to someone like we get it you're sad right right I'm sure I've got it reversed but the second I heard this song it sounded like the newest or the not the newest the last trophy eyes album and I wasn't looking at it while I was like I was I was listening to the car on the way to work today and I was like is this trophy eyes did did Vinny put trophy eyes on here and I went to look and I was like who's the national it made me think because like the American dream in 2018 there's a couple of songs that sound just like this and I was like oh I should save this these guys at first I was like were these guys inspired I was like that can't be true these guys probably came before trophy eyes if any put a lot here so why don't you tell us about your relationship with the national it was a combination of pitchfork and MTVU because that's what I was ingesting at the time because Fuse was on its way out Fuse had just become like Steven's untitled countdown show was still there but it was losing it was like clear that like wait a minute I saw this last I saw this two hours ago it became like a radio station where they had like two hours set and they were just like replay it replay it replay it and I saw the music video for it and I don't know if you know ever seen the music video for Bloodbuzz Ohio but it's just the singer Matt wandering around in like this like trench coat just doing nothing it's black and gray it's so pretentious but it's so funny David Lynch film yeah it's essentially the David Lynch films of music videos or what's his name Darren Aronofsky before he switches the color for those pie fans I remember watching the video and I was just like what is this and it's another one of those like yeah yes map songs were like the drums were the thing that initially hooked me and then I would go on to find the two the two songs from High Violet that I really love are Bloodbuzz Ohio and Lemon World I think the rest of the album is fine I think it's good but the album if you if I'm gonna listen to a national album it's gonna be boxer that's the one I have on vinyl that's the one I've played the most but I've played Bloodbuzz Ohio you know double triple quadruple times it also has a fun story that like I forget the initial conversation so I worked at Chipotle twice in my life I would play music like like this I would just play music all the time I was in prep I was in the back just cutting onions and peppers and all that stuff and making all your sat and cutting your salads and all that stuff and the one time many times but this time specifically this kid Nick who worked the front register we're just be like Vinny what is this what are you listening to what is this a smoking club or something like that because it has that drone the day yeah but but but just it's in the background right yeah and I'm telling them about it is a great song world don't sass me you know this is great and just like and then I you know put it on repeat just to be obnoxious about it well eventually it got to the point where I was like I posted it on his Facebook we became friends on Facebook and I posted on his Facebook wall why the video I don't know why but I did and another one of our friends who didn't know we were Facebook friends came up to me like a week or two later and was like what is that song that you posted on Nick's wall I've been listening to it ever since it wasn't the first time that it happened like to gas me up for like for all your music tastes as good but it was like one of those ones that like I'll never forget of just like this was one of those songs that like I showed to a lot of people and a lot of people like this is amazing I want to listen this all the time I have the music video up and you're right this is so weirdly pretentious it's giving big vibes of like modern day like dudes who post pictures of the guy from preaky blinders yes but also like artsy fartsy David Lynch first time ever making a movie like I watched one David Lynch movie and now I'm making a music video like it is both of those at the same time and I've kind of here for it it's a layer oh it's great it's a great video which episode of 60 songs was it where Rob ended up talking about them in the end where he's like I was at I went to see the national at Ohio and an Ohio festival with my buddy and he said I can't take them seriously look at those coattails I wish I could remember but yeah a hundred percent and he said after that my image of them was just crushed I could not look at them the same way ever again dude that's the bit I think it's a bit it has to be you know but no like thank you again for throwing this in there because really forced me to actually listen to the national and glad they are now going to be my next obsession so yeah oh they're fantastic I both appreciate it and hate you for it at the same time so well you welcome to 2010 baby this is so weird because these are bands that were existed back then and I was trolling the internet for the most obscure metal at the time so it's like I'm learning about bands that everybody already knew about yeah that's the best part I mean like and the other thing it's like a lot of people no one forgot about the national the national is still kicking but it's like there's some songs there that like people aren't listening to it's like hey I remember it was a while ago and like don't forget like these songs also exist you don't have to focus on the new remember there's some good stuff in the old days too it's being good stuff in the old days I gotta throw this out there the my hero zero cover so as I was listening to this playlist I just need to do a double take I love this cover too I love this song too but as I'm listening to it for like the fifth or sixth time ever I'm like this actually to me like sums up Vinny's taste the most it's the lemon heads aka evan dando covering a schoolhouse rock song yeah like I don't know if you did sum it up any better I've said it multiple times that that album schoolhouse rock rocks that is the album if you remember like Vinny what is your music face I would hand you schoolhouse rock rocks and be like this is the vibe of what I like it has the lemon heads it has ween it has pavement it has bismarkey uh skilo moby manor astra man Daniel Johnston is on here Daniel Johnson is on there like some names of like big names in 90s pop and I didn't know this all perspective genre better than Ezra I got halfway through listening to this and I was like I feel like I recognize this song and then I looked at the thing and I was like wait the lemon head sound familiar too do the original song and then I like went down a little rabbit hole and I was like no no this is a cover I was like what the heck because it's been last time I listened to this I was listening to the original schoolhouse rock sound exactly and I didn't know who bands were there was Lincoln Park and there was somebody else that was in the CDs in our car when my dad would drive us to elementary school um right uh and I was just like this must be like hearing it I was like this must have been the original artist because I don't know who did it right because like the thing for me is I heard this album before I knew what schoolhouse rock was really shit yes I heard it on cassette damn my babysitter had it I don't know why they had it they had this album on cassette and we used to listen to the car all the time no no no no knowing who my babysitters were it wasn't because of the artist it was because it was schoolhouse rock and it was goofy okay or somewhat like someone knew them and was like here's a schoolhouse rock you know and then didn't check like oh this isn't the actual songs from schoolhouse rock these are different people the other one I really love from this album is I'm just a bill but that was my hero's song too the cover is amazing but I spent a lot of time listening to my hero zero when I would revisit the album when the internet started to actually become the internet like on ebay or amazon like and you could get it like it's like oh you can order an album because I couldn't find it at any other place I was like on buying this album when I got that I revisited my hero zero quite a bit is this what you're doing to the lemonheads too uh I would consider it the gateway drug for sure okay I would consider it the gateway drug for all of those pavements and pavement queen and uh the lemonheads for sure man oh and manor astromand those are the ones I pulled from it manor astromand ween pavement and the lemonheads if somebody told me to make vinny's 30 for 30 I like this I never would have guessed to put this in all those monkeys and all those typewriters in one right if you put a thousand radio if you put a thousand radio kids in it with a thousand typewriters eventually they'll make maybe 30 for 30 so here's the question what are songs that you would have put from knowing me knowing me in my 20s or whatever what are some songs that oh my god do you have any songs off the top of your head that you'd be like this one's the one the ones I always think over the ones that you got me into or you forced me into there was a couple of like orb core bands and I and it turns out my memory is very bad because I thought several of them that you you taught me about were raw reviver um I'm glad you put them out because that would have been my first guess that would have been reviver and flatliners would have been like some of the first ones that I would have decided to put on here and then of course the one that you forced me into uh my favorite song in the world uh Justin Bieber TV that was one where I don't know why it didn't make the cut like I had to have had it on here but it just didn't make it because 30 is so small of a number whenever you're thinking about the songs of your life it's hard some of it's there's some where you're like this band matters a lot to me but I don't know if they like encapsulate what mattered to me right like I'm I'm surprised the mountain goats aren't on here there are another one where it's close like it could have been it could have been no children it could have been going to Georgia it could have been uh how to embrace a swamp creature off of their heads is another one that I off with their heads yeah if I thought what would have they didn't they could have gone either way Carly Rae Jepsen Carly Rae didn't make the cut they might be giants didn't make the cut they were be giants didn't make it that run probably would have been dead that was for sure on the short the quote unquote short list of songs that didn't make the cut it was a long list it was tough I remember sitting there like rack in my brain because it's like do you need to make a 30 for 30 sideboard essentially yeah yeah I can make a sideboard on the heartbeat yeah the other the next 30 okay video knows which songs to swap out depending on who he's who he's sharing with even if I'm going in as like stand out from the goofy movie soundtrack that one my hero zero and stand out rules though it's so good everyone always defaults to the other song but to me it was always stand out over the other ones I find that this list looking back at it I find the list is a little top heavy in the sense of like it really in covers like from like 14 to 30 not so much from the earlier part I think that's when music for me really starts to become such a huge part of my life that like that's when I become the music obsessive that I am today well yeah does that that's when you that's typically like when you start listening to your own stuff you start to identify with your own taste in and what you want to listen to not just like didn't do what your parents have on or what they'll quote let you listen to exactly you can kind of like hide stuff or hide music from them in your teens you know yeah Maxwell murder from ransa didn't make a list for some reason the descendants suburban home is also top three favorite songs hell yeah I gotta know your thoughts though is my little being genuine or is he being sarcastic sarcastic you think so I there's no doubt in my mind even if he says he is or he isn't it doesn't matter to me that song was completely tongue-in-cheek it's saying it very insultingly he has a very insulting tone whenever he's saying it and regardless if he wants the suburban home life or not regardless of you if he wants it he doesn't and it's kind of where I'm leaning towards because it's like he says it in such a like I want to be stereotyped I want to be classified he says it so indignant to me it doesn't matter what his opinion of it is my opinion of it is he's saying it sarcastically I was just curious just I I always thought sarcastically but in the last couple years a couple times I've heard it and just learning and reading more about Milo specifically I thought me he might actually be serious here but I mean he might be because like it might be like uh what my dad always said he was like he would always like talk about like my mom's family is kind of like just goes with the flow and he's like man I wish I could be like your family but he always thought too much he was always thinking reading about the world collapsing and yeah I have that same curse so to me it's like I wish I could just not think about it there was a big high wall there that tried to stop me sign was painted said private property but on the backside it didn't say nothing this land was made for you and me did anyone catch this land as your land has the secret verse in it yeah there's a secret verse yeah it's like the extended version whenever you hear it they always cut it out from all the recordings it was my favorite one because it goes there was a big high wall there that tried to stop me a sign was painted said private property but on the backside it didn't say nothing this land was made for you and me I've listened to this song maybe four times in the past like few weeks from this playlist and that's four times more than I've ever voluntarily listened to this song um not that I don't like not that I hate it or anything but it's just never come up on any time I ever listened to I did not know that was a secret line I did hear that and I was like that's a good line yeah well he wrote it because he hated god bless america yeah he thought he couldn't stand Irving Berlin's god bless america so he made this song because he was a socialist and that song it's like the I always call it the secret verse it always gets cut out yeah it always gets cut out I remember learning that song in elementary school but they always left off like that old back end of it yeah no one ever says that one personally that song should be the national anthem but yeah the whole thing right yeah all of it like to say this land is your land this land is my land like it's a completely communal message here we're talking about like patriotic we are talking about being patriotic in a way patriotic in a different sense in a different sense not just oh remember when that fork got bombed and we we were stealing an old British drinking song like we're yeah this was an american folk center writing a song about american people owning property I've fallen in love with Woody Guthrie over the handful of the last few years that ash recordings um if you're in a folk mood that ash recordings is very good I highly recommend man you put in my favorite dafpunk song and I didn't I don't know we never really talked about dafpunk digital love oh my god this is my favorite dafpunk song it is the one yeah it is the best dafpunk song is part of concern I feel like a lot of dafpunk songs don't have as much um I don't know content to them in a way like this song is like a full like story sort of to it rather than a lot of the other ones you know it's just kind of uh they're fun and they have a nice beat but they're like or like they're very like technically good but I feel like this one has a lot more to it's a little more substantial right there's uh yeah there's a little bit more there's given a story there's given a little bit of background there's given like a a start name I'm surprised we've never talked because I've never actively listened to aquabats and I feel like it's something you probably told me to listen to at some point and I've heard of them so many times and listening to them I was like I'm surprised I haven't listened to these guys yet turn your brain off yeah they're a lot of fun yeah the aquabats are one of those bands they remind me of masking truder yeah I feel like any masking truder for sure yeah but it's also like kind of what I said about hip-hop I feel like it would be hard to get into them aquabots now and not when you're 15 years old they're very much for teenagers I mean also this is dated in the fact that the phone call at the beginning is like hey what are you doing oh I'm watching the dating game and yeah does anyone know that that is that's intentional that's intentional I don't even think the dating game was around whenever they made the song yeah you might be right you might be right on that but did you ever hear the it's not kids bop but have you heard the like updated cover of pool party no there's an updated version of it where instead of there's a pool party for the cool kids out of school it's there's a pool party for everyone at our school oh oh this is what participation trophies does to have it invite invite the nerds now yeah hate it if you want to give yourself a good chuckle listen to the updated version of pool party and just listen to any of their stuff really like it it's all fun I did want to ask because I have a couple of songs that I when they came up on here I was like what the hell like never would have thought like this would make like your 30 and I want to know if Jared had any songs where it was just like never would I have guessed that these would have made the 30 for 30 for Vinny I think the only two that stand out in that because I mean Vinny and I talked about music almost every day just even just like one message at a time so like over the years I've kind of like developed an idea of what to expect like seeing the remotes and hear made sense seeing the dead milkmen take made a ton of sense tribe in here made sense what he draw three made sense I think the only ones that stood out to me were the magnetic fields and basement jacks my girls basement jacks and the one that didn't make the list was m83s we own the sky okay they were like the songs of my graduation year in 2009 everyone listened to my girls it was like the number one song on everyone's list raindrops was also introduced to me at that time and me and some buddies would just drive around and listen to those songs all the time I mean I list I must have heard and then I would introduce my family to raindrops and then everyone fell in love with raindrops it was like kind of like that like start I was like what is this song but this is good it's dancing it's got a beat you know it's just kind of for me like I bring up a couple times with like my gateway into like dance music my gateway into like electronic you know it's one of those ones where like it opens your eyes like oh there is great stuff out there but there's no way I could put a 30 for 30 together and not include those songs okay the magnetic fields the book of love the book of love is my cousin's wedding song okay and that was the first time I was introduced and I was like what is this and I shazammed or Verizon music or whatever the heck my flip phone did and I was like what is this song and I would go home and download the 69 love songs album and the magnetic fields are one of those bands where like I truly love the magnetic fields because of how weird they are because of how different they always feel Stephen Merritt has such a voice that baritone voice is so soothing and I just I don't know there's some about the fields that just like I don't find very many bands like the magnetic fields that hit the same buttons that they do I didn't realize that this song was by a band I've only ever heard this song in like movies yeah and granted I think I've only heard like I probably only heard their original version like once or twice and probably covers and other things I don't know why I thought this was just some singer in a some classic band that I had never listened to doing like a single song yeah like I don't know why the name Phil Collins comes up but because that's not the right one but like you know like I thought it was like some like singer who was like it was just their name no idea this was written by a band like I thought it was written for a movie or something or written as a one-off by like some single artist yeah or like a made for song for a movie yeah they made I had no idea this was a real band and this is probably maybe it's the first time I've ever heard it and thought and realized it was from a band because every other time I've heard it I was like oh this must be a cover or somebody else it's funny that apparently they have a ton of music and I was like they have a ton of music only ever heard that song yeah it seems like we pretty much covered everything in this list without even trying but yeah we picked it through vin overall this is a great list and I think it actually sums up your taste very well like at least from what I know of your taste and what you listen to absolutely I know you said I messaged you offline about this and I know you said this is I was hoping you were gonna say this was out of order but I should have mentioned this when we were talking about maps but the fact that it goes maps into your love is my drug to go party princess herself absolute heartache and heartbreak and love to kesha yeah I the party princess herself the party princess she was she was our party princess we always have a party princess the original is kesha and they don't replace that's the thing remember they never get replaced they just add to the hierarchy kesha was the first one that me and very start when we first started talking about music it was mostly like or core punk and then like and I think like you just like like we had talked about a little bit like like weird pop and whatnot and then you put on a kesha song and I was like it started expanding like how much I realized how much variety you had when I was like I thought you only listened to like indie or like stuff that wasn't on a big record label yeah and then I was like I was like oh kesha I was like this is wild it was yeah it was curlery jeffson from even there yeah for our party princess was the original is kesha next in line came carly ray and then currently it's chapel room the other one is grophins by captain beefheart I just want to throw that out there for everyone this one surprised me I love that song speaking of old phones he had a nv2 and the speaker was busted because he was right dropped in water like a thousand times and he went we would go to chipotle we would get our burritos we'd sit outside or inside it didn't matter and he would open his phone up and hit play and the grossest speakers you've ever heard would play this song it's so dirty as it is oh my god I have a um voicemail to this day that I refuse to delete it's just him recording grophins from his from his phone because I didn't answer the phone one time I didn't answer the phone so he recorded from his phone speakers grophins and I still have it to this day there's no other word it's just the song it's not hey vin call me back it's just grophins wow he's one sure his grophin one eleven phone quality oh my god I gotta say when this came on every time I heard it I would get surprised and thought no actually I'm not shocked in the slightest this is on here because I'm really shocked is I'm looking at it and this was 1971 uh-huh that's crazy I thought this was a modern version of like a goofy song like this is an old song this is like I had to listen to it a couple of times to realize wait it's cresese use this and something because it sounds like a roll it sounds like a roll in stone song but then I realized like it's um it's one it's beef heart so I'm not surprised that it's in here and two like when I was listening to it today like before we started started recording this team on and I thought you know I think the people that I know Marin has the bit about beef heart but I think oh yeah I think people that get into beef art are the people that have found everything they're looking for and are still looking for new music like you have found exactly what you've wanted but it's not enough you need to go yeah to throw in another comedian uh George Carlin has a bit in stuff the bit is stuff but in the he's like could you imagine if you found something you kept looking it's like do you find a glasses yeah but I'm still looking in case I'm having an out of body experience it's like that is someone who's found beef heart but they're still looking it truly takes a special kind of person to sit down and listen to captain beef heart yeah I mean I'm good on that one yeah he's right there he's found exactly then I'll give a shout out to Brody Dale and the Steelers she's the goat she's the best I didn't want to make an interruptors joke for to have some respect I was very happy because you showed me you told me when I was coming back from last year's uh four chords I was oh give me a couple albums listen to and you gave me uh sing song death house and there was one other thing yeah this song especially stuck out to me that I like this song's awesome do you have any highlights that you want to mention that we might have skipped or like you we've already got spoilers for his deathbed playlist yeah spoilers for the deathbed and if you didn't notice you have to go back and re-listen this episode yeah for the secrets we've been hiding about our our deathbed episode that we'll be posting it the day before I go into surgery to replace my shoulder within my deathbed episode just in case I don't make it out it's you get a flash drive and you're like make sure this gets to the right places if I don't make it out we're gonna have to record around everything he said yeah the main thing I'll say is punk rock girl is the uh first song I ever heard on WCAL power 92 I had gotten a car uh and I was driving around and we just got WCAL where my hometown was and I was like what is this song hit the old shazam or whatever the button was and I was like this is cool what is this and that's when I became a fan of 91.9 that's crazy well thanks for indulging me but as we pin her out here yeah well I just want to say happy belated 30 you did it buddy you're finally 30 I did it I did it I made it to 30 just wait for the deathbed episode yeah so we're gonna do 40 for 40 50 for 50 40 50 for 50 but they have to be different songs you know a lot of use the same ones oh no you have to find a complete new 30 and then add 10 that 20 no it would be even worse as s to be new 30 but you have to pick the 10 that you want to keep from the other I like that because imagine if you have 60 songs in here and you had to cut out 30 together 30 out of that imagine how hard it is if you have to cut 20 out of your 30 already mmm i like it i like it but anyway check out all of our other episodes follow us on instagram @justmyvariety all one word send us your 30 for 30 tell us what you would put in your 30 songs for 30 years or whatever age you are i promise you we'll judge you or we'll be judging of what's in there so but we're not going to keep you keep listening what's going to stop you from listening to it we're just going to judge you so tell us what you think tell us your thoughts on vennys 30 for 30 as always you can find a link to the playlist in our link tree on instagram or in the show notes down below thank you again for listening and we will see you in next time 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