The Killer B's: Joel Blank & Jeremy Branham
09/23 Hour 3 - Yordan Alvarez Should Never Hustle in the Regular Season
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Did you see me get one up by the one up over here, Brian? Blanker's running a bigger football than I have. He's one upping me. No, I just-- One upping me. I just know that Sam and-- The Duke. Abigail left an NFL game ball sitting on the counter. And this fella showing Jeremy up a little bit. Oh, that's just a little football you have. This is Jose Altuve, taking off his cleat in his song. Is the baseball the sessions? You're carrying Jeremy on the head of the basketball football. Yeah, I know. I got one up. I got the Duke. I got the Duke, and I got the done. Anyways, you're on Alvarez trying to stretch out a double yesterday. Bang up his knee on a slide into second base. Here was Joe Aspotta with the latest update on his big slugger. So you know what? He's actually right now getting more test done. He's out at MRI to start at 3 o'clock. So we should be getting some more results here in the next hour. Yesterday, we got some x-rays. And there was some inflammation in the area. So we want to make sure that we go in there, and we check all the boxes. So he's getting some extra testing done right now. What about this morning, how do you feel for the same amount? I spoke with him this morning, and he woke up pretty sore. I was suspecting him to train, that he felt better, but that wasn't the case. So we'll see once we get these results, once he walks in here. Did it cause for any sleepless night, last night, knowing you're on this final week? That's a great question. You know what? It's a test. You do what I do every night. Pray and ask, thank God for another day. And one day at a time, we've been grinding for a very long time, and I'm proud of what this team has accomplished so far. Hey, John, you know, we got a very important series here. Hey, Joey, you're worried about your on. Did you lose sleep? Of course he lost some sleep, but you're on Alvarez, a couple of weeks shy of the playoffs. Yeah, playoffs. What does that sound like to you from the skipper? It sounds like reason for concern. It sounds like as much as we were being told, and Sparky and others were saying, it looks like they dodged a bullet. I don't know how much they dodged it yet, and that is concerning because of the fact that from forever in a day when we've been talking about the Yordon rules and everything else. The one thing that we said is the one guy that this team cannot survive without, if you have World Series type expectations, is Yordon Alvarez. And at this point in the season, not ideal. Yeah, I sound like the X-rays good news, because if they were to find something in the X-ray, that means break. I think that it's a good thing that they're doing in MRI. I'm pro-information. Like, I think they should do MRIs before their injuries. Like, get information. Get some intel on what a guy looks like with the imaging and stuff like that. Hopefully this is nothing, and they're just being precautious. When it comes to Yordon Alvarez, lineups out, Yordon's on the lineup. But hopefully this is just okay. Let's see, let's make sure there's nothing wrong, and then we can plan what we're gonna do with Yordon if there is indeed nothing wrong. Is it concerning? Absolutely, it's concerning. It's Yordon Alvarez. How could you not be concerned? It's the Houston Astros athletic staff. And if, whether you believe it's the athletic staff, medicine staff, whether you believe it's the PR staff, whatever. Like, they don't give us reason to trust any news that comes out. I think they're still sweating the MRI. Hopefully the news is nothing. My bigger concern here, and I had some, I was arguing with people on Twitter, so maybe you guys can vouch for me. How many times did I say I get nervous when you were on Alvarez slides, and I don't want them to slide? Have I said that before? Yeah. Okay, I just wanted to make that very clear. Now, you also realize that the one thing that I put in my tweet when I saw it, that you and I have gone back and forth on, but it also, I think, added to the problem is, that damn infield was so wet and muddy that he kind of stuck when he slid, and it drives me nuts, too. But you're right, he should not have been going for second base. I think that the wet infield would have helped there. I don't. It's more cushion, softer. But it also prevents your slide from being smooth. It grabs. Maybe so, maybe so. I don't, I'm hoping that it's not a tear, though. I'm thinking that it looked to me more like a contusion, like it looked to me more like a bruise. And if it's more of a bruise contusion, I think that the wetness makes it softer. Now, if it's a tear, that adds way more credibility to your point of view, about it being something that would grab. If it's a ligament tear, yeah, you're right, 'cause it does have more grab. If it's more bruise, then I think that it might have helped, actually, 'cause it's softer. Now, here's, so we've made it very clear that I've talked about the Yordon rules exist for a reason. I've talked about how I don't want Yordon Alvarez taking extra bases. I don't want Yordon Alvarez sliding into bases. Why? Because the risk of injury goes up whenever you do that. It is time for the Astros to use Yordon Alvarez like he is a star quarterback. What do you mean by that? What do quarterbacks not do anymore that they used to do? Lower their shoulder and try to run over defenders. Why don't they do that? Because they know how important and valuable a quarterback is to their team that they're trying to mitigate risk/mitigate injury. It's the same thing with Yordon Alvarez. Yordon Alvarez is way too important for this baseball team that he needs to take an extra 90 feet in the third inning. He's way too important for this baseball team to play 53 games in left field. He's way too important for this baseball team to be sliding in trying to take extra bases. He needs to be treated like a quarterback where it's Yordon rules, you're our permanent DH, let's play station to station. The only time you take an extra bases if you don't have to slide, we need you. We don't need you to slide into extra bases during the regular season. For us to be a good baseball team, for us to reach our potential, for us to be a true World Series contender, we must have Yordon Alvarez. And to have Yordon Alvarez means to put things in place that mitigate risk and mitigate injury when it comes to the big man. - Yeah, it's a big picture. It's just big picture intelligence. When you talk about how important he is to the overall success of this team, we understand that everybody's different. Well, this is a player that's not supposed to be stealing bases. We know he's not supposed to be trying to get the extra base, no matter how athletic some people may think he is or what he is as an outfielder or not. As long as his bats in the lineup and he's hitting for average and he's hitting for power, he's doing more than his job 'cause sometimes he carries this entire team. So that extra base in the big picture isn't gonna matter as much no matter what it could have meant in a game against the Angels late in the season. And that's where he has to be smarter. Discussions have to be had and that there has to be a clear understanding of, we know you could do it, but let's not do it because of the ramifications if something like this happens and turns out to be bigger than just a bruise. - Yeah, I think it's obvious. Treat him like a quarterback. Treat him like a quarterback. Make sure that he's not doing things that can cause injury. Who cares if he's taking an extra 90 feet on September 22nd against the Angels in the third inning? Who cares? Do you want him healthy or do you want him hustling? I wore this hustle shirt in honor if I want Yordon Alvar is not hustling anymore. I don't want him to hustle. I want him to be sluggish. I want him to be lazy. I don't want him taking extra 90 feet. I need his bat in the lineup way more than I need his hustle, way more than I need his average ability in left field. I need the guy to be available into hit home runs. 8192, well crap. Yordon lost a leg. Astra's medical staff gonna say it's a bruise when it's being fitted for a prosthetic. Triple zero two, Yordon rule number one, DH only a 7308. I feel like anytime you hear an Astra initially is diagnosed with a contusion. You just know in a week you're going to find out that they really have a bowler or something. Yes, the Astra's have earned that. - Well, notice when I said it wasn't just a bruise because the last time we had a bruise, it turned into a three month catastrophe. And that's not what we need here. The same way Kyle Tucker coming back from this injury, you didn't expect him to go for an extra base. You didn't expect him to be stealing bases nor did you want him to because you needed him back in the lineup first and foremost and to stay there. Just times that by 10 and say, "That's why Yordon doesn't need the extra base." - Yeah, people are calling me an idiot today saying I don't know, oh yeah, I was getting dragged for the response that I had with treating Yordon like you have kids gloves, treat him like he has, treat him like a guy that's very valuable to this offense. Yeah, let me pull up some of the tweet. People are calling me a jack bad word that you don't know ball, stick to what you know, which I don't know what I know. Like if you don't think I know baseball, I wonder what you think I do know, which I don't know much. We've all made that very, very clear. But I don't see the benefit. Like what is the benefit of Yordon taking an extra 90 feet in game number 154 of the season? - Well, the five game lead with what eight games or seven games to play when you know how important and vitally is to your squad. It just, it makes zero sense at this point in the season. But for most points this season, we've been talking about the Yordon rules forever and a day and just go back a year ago when he did the slipping on ice move in the outfield and everybody held their breath and hope to God it wasn't something serious with his leg. These are the things we're talking about 'cause no matter what he does in the outfield, no matter what he does on the base pass, his most important purpose with this squad is hitting a baseball. - 7560, I don't understand why they just don't DH him. He is huge, not fat, a mountain man. Now this, I mean, he could've been DHing and still taking an extra 90 feet. Like this wasn't an injury that he sustained playing left field, but just don't take extra bases. And he is a mountain of a man. He's 65240 and runs fast. Like you get that combination, you're going to get hurt if you're doing things that bring injury into play. And like people act like the hustle thing is like some foreign thought when it comes to baseball. Most baseball players over 162 games only hustle when they have to for the record. Jose Altuve dogs it almost every single time he's running the first base unless it's a bang bang play where he's trying to beat it out for a base hit. Kyle Tucker has kind of eased his way back into hustle because he's coming off a leg injury. You're on Alvarez now has a leg injury. Alex Breggman after the hamstring injury was not very much of a hustler and flat out said it. Whenever he came back, he's like, "You know, there's going to be times "whenever I can't really bust it as hard "'cause I need to protect myself." Same thing with you on Alvarez. Barry Bonds late in his career. How many times of Barry Bonds late in his career stretching out for an extra 90 feet? Big Poppy ever. When was David Ortiz ever trying to earn a hard 90? An extra 90 feet never, Kevin Cage on Twitter. He's not a baby anymore, Jay. You can't not take advantage of him being a baseball player. Yes, you can because you're trying to take advantage of his availability and keeping him in the lineup. I saw a lot of people calling him soft. You're on being, and I've called you on soft from time to time. I don't think this is a play where it's soft though. Like, that's a 64, 250 pound man running his hardest, landing hard on his knee. Yes, I've called him soft before. I think he does have some soft tendencies. I wouldn't categorize this play as that. Jason, dude, if he cannot do a basic baseball move like sliding to second base, then he has glass knees and a major injuries right around the corner anyways. Yeah, that's why I don't want him going an extra 90 feet. Let's not forget, he's had double knee surgery. He's had double knee surgery in his life not that long ago. We go up and down the list where we've had the most bizarre of injuries, the smoke intake in Atlanta or something he ate or all the other things too. It's kind of how it all got started with the Yordon rules. When we figured out how good he can be, it just, look, I said the fact that my daughter watches games with me and wonders why certain guys don't run to first base hard. You see the better the player, the less chance you're gonna see someone busting it down the line, especially in a meaningless game to try and beat out an extra base hit. I need you in cruise control, big man, 'cause I need you in the lineup. I don't need you stretching a single into a double. I need you driving in runs. Doug Dakota, sorry, you can't wrap him in bubble wrap. If he's gonna be made of glass, find out before you have to pay him. You already paid him. This was a nothing deal. He probably slid wrong, he'll be fine. I don't want him sliding. I don't want him to slide. Hip routine slide is wild, he got hurt. It's really not. Like sliding's kind of a dangerous play, especially whenever you're 6'4", 250 that runs really fast. Alejandro, come on, look at football players, how big they are. It's just your and I must be clumsy or injury prone. What do they tell the best quarterbacks to do? Avoid hits. Why do they tell quarterbacks to avoid hits? Because they need their quarterback to be healthy. Why? Because if they get hurt, their team's not gonna be good. - Look, I understand if this is, say, that the Mariners series would've meant something and it was like nipping tucking, it was a tight race, and you needed this to get into the playoffs. Then you understand that's meaningful baseball at the end of the year, it's do or die time, all hands on deck doing everything that they can't. I understand this if this is the playoffs and in the middle of a key moment in a game, but understand that the most key moments of the games in recent history, a lot of them involved with this man doing something with his bat that was destructive, that got you wins, taking victory from the jaws of defeat, hitting bombs over the frickin' scoreboard center field. You don't have that, if he does it against the Angels in a meaningless game, you need that for, then we can have a different conversation. If this isn't a meaningful game or this is a game in the playoffs, then you expect that. - Yeah, show, show, show is this is so stupid for him to skip an extra bag because he's scared he'll get hurt every slide, is it? Do you not want your on Alvarez? A GR, the reason they act like it is because that is crazy, good grief. Players have to hustle in this game, it's hard enough. A bunch of big leaguers do not hustle, especially ones that are the best hitters on their team. 7, 5, 6, 0, treat 'em like the kid wearing glasses and little giants, I like that, it's a good idea. 8, 8, 3, 5, Barry Bonch would be in the Hall of Fame. Your on rules are a must, Branham knows ball. Don't search his Will Levis tweets. I was right about Levis. He was better than the number one pick in the NFL draft that year, a 1, 8, 1, 0. How do you call a man soft when you are the one sitting there saying he needs to play soft and not do a lot of things so he can be in the lineup? I don't get it. Well, the hands, he got hospitalized for smoke. He had to leave a trip in Tampa Bay and come home because he slipped in a pillow funny. Little difference between the soft injuries and then the injuries that are actually suitable. And in me saying this stuff, I'm soft. I talk to him in a microphone. I'm a moron on a mic. I know soft because I am soft. - Well, here's the other thing. If you prioritize and ask anybody that watches this team to list his greatest strengths and attributes that mean the most to this team, it's all gonna start with his ability to hit the baseball. He has to be in the lineup to hit the baseball. If you had better out fielders to choose from all season long, you would've won the bet and there probably would've been a priority to have him as your designated hitter all year so that you didn't run any kind of risk that he could not be in the lineup to hit the baseball. He's not awful in the outfield. He ain't great. He's not great on the base pass, but he's serviceable. But you don't need those things because you can't do those things. If you can't walk and you can't hit and do what he does best. - 616-7, who cares? He gets paid to play. If he can't handle it, move on. Cool, you probably won CJ Stroud to run quarterback power 30 times a game. A 0613, I don't want your on hustling with a seven game lead in the AOS. Facts, all right, 713-780-3776. From one big man, you got hurt to a big man who's taking a lot of heat today in Houston. Let's have the Laramie Tunsel conversation and boy, there's a lot of people taking some shots at Laramie Tunsel. It's the B's on ESPN 97-5 and ESPN 92-5. - You're listening to ESPN 97-5. (upbeat music) - J out first down, here's the kid and they've loved to play Ted. Looks like a false start of the Texans. Let's find out who. - For the snap, bro starts offense number 78. Five yard penalty, go first down. - Oh, he got him out of the way early. Laramie Tunsel. - It's every week though. I mean, you're a football player. There's no excuse for that. None, back to the 15-week old. - Broadcasting live from the Veritex Community Bank Studios. It's the Killer B's with Joel Blanken, Jeremy Branham. - On ESPN 97-5 and 92-5. - Bandy was exiting stage left as quickly as he could after Andre Ware was blasting Laramie Tunsel. And that of course was on Texans radio network. The call of the game, rock and roll, where? But where blasted, blasted Laramie Tunsel. The false starts, you had the illegal formations over and over with Laramie Tunsel. We had six penalties yesterday. He has nine on the season. Laramie Tunsel asked afterwards about the illegal formations. They tried to make an example out of us. The first two weeks, we lined up the same window problem. Now it's a problem. I feel like somebody told them to make an example out of us got to call at the same both sides. - It's Laramie Tunsel. - It's pretty weak. I mean, you just got to own it at a certain point and just say, "That's on me and I got to do better." And at least I think you gained some respectability. But it's a pretty sad state of good on Andre Ware because I think we both know that that's a very difficult situation to be in when you know who your employer is and you know what they expect you and want you to do. But yet for credibility's sake, you have to call what you see and be honest about it. And I think you saw both sides of it in that conversation with those two guys and I respect both of them. But I think that you have to call it and really good on Andre for just being able to speak his truths and say, "Hey, look, we are all seeing and thinking the exact same thing for a guy of your caliber that is doing this professionally, you have to be better." And it's not like this is the first time these kind of things are happening. They're happening over and over again and earlier in the show. We highlighted what he's done since he's been a Texan. How many penalties he's had? Why these things continue to stack up? Just own it. Don't put it on the rest of your guys or put it on the league. We all knew that the point of contention for the league this year was gonna be this as an offensive line, especially one of the better ones in the league, you gotta be better. - Here was Lance Erlin, our very own Lance Erlin. Earlier about Laramie Tunsel went scorched to Earth calling him selfish. - Don't tell me it's a communication issue. Don't tell me any of that crap. This is you trying to guess the snap and guess the cadence so you can get out fast. That's it. And it's a selfish move because you just are worried about your own individual thing and you don't even seem to care that it puts the Texans behind the chains. - It's just communication. It's not, yeah, I'll take the blame for it 'cause my name is being called on the penalties, but it's not just me. He showed the least accountability. - Yeah, there's got no one. - And I'm gonna go back to this story too 'cause this is what really irritates me. I was told by a coach who's in the league who talked to a former Houston Texan coach who told me they used to have to negotiate with Laramie Tunsell to get him to practice. They had to beg this guy to just go out and practice. He didn't do anything pre-season. He didn't do anything pre-season. He's like, I don't even know if he's really locked in as part of a team. - Pretty, pretty big words about Laramie Tunsell. Let it be known, let it be known that on December 5th, 2023, I had the audacity. I had the audacity when Laramie Tunsell didn't go help CJ Stroud in a little bit of a scrum, although 80% of the offensive line did. Although the four of the five that were not lame, Laramie Tunsell went. That Laramie Tunsell was the only one that didn't go to the defense of CJ Stroud. I had the audacity to ask the question, how do we feel about Laramie being the only offensive lineman that doesn't come to Stroud's defense? I suggested that it was kind of weird. That offensive lineman like to go to the defense of their quarterbacks. CJ Stroud said after that game, how much he appreciated his offensive line, defending him. DeMico Ryan's after the game mentioned how much he liked watching the offensive line, defend CJ Stroud. So four fists of the offensive line went to defend Stroud. Stroud said he liked it, DeMico said he liked it. I said he was kind of curious that Laramie Tunsell was the only one that did not, and I got blasted. But the truth is, I tell you what you're gonna think nine months in advance. Because I pointed it out then when it was unpopular, now it's popular and everybody's pointing it out now. This has always been a Laramie Tunsell issue. Laramie Tunsell has always been in the business of Laramie Tunsell. This is not new news. This should not be a surprise to anybody. No, it shouldn't at all. And I think that we can highlight all of these things and we can go back and say when the Texas didn't have a chance at the playoffs and his thumb got hurt, where most offensive lineman would put a cast on it, tape it up or do something at a certain point in time and be out there, he missed a month and a half. There were rumors and stories to say that you had to basically bribe him to get back onto the practice field and play. No matter what he's paid and how he's recognized. - That's what Lance said, yeah. - What? - I mean, Lance said that in the clip. - He talked to assistant coaches that said they had to negotiate with Laramie Tunsell to beg him to practice. - I've heard that, yeah, and I heard that previous to that in stories that were written as he continued to sit, but the team continued to play. And you just look over and over again and say, did anybody think or expect that he was gonna change his stripes and he was gonna be a different way? But now that the team is good and winning because that was always one of the excuses. Hey, you know what? It's a rebuild and he's just fighting his way through, but at a certain point, that's what veterans do. And you can sit, this is a really good football team and he's a really good football player and this is not what you expected from him. And then certainly when you double down on yourself with those kind of comments where you don't look in the mirror and point the finger at yourself first, it's pretty sad. - Yeah, like he did get better in the second half at this, but it was like we were talking about earlier. You have to be able to say, all right, like, hey, line judge, can you tell me that if I'm on or not, can you tell me if I'm on the line of scrimmage? The false start things are really bad too. They are drive killers and I agree with Lance. I think he's trying to time the jump and guess the count and usually gets away with it. But the times that he doesn't, okay, first and 10 turns into first and 15, 30 and three turns into third and eight. He is trying to get that little bit of edge to kind of get a head start on the defenders. - Here was Titus Howard, this is credit to Will Conkel for pulling the audio. Titus Howard on the illegal formations after the game yesterday. - Yeah, we had one call the first two weeks. So I mean, we lined up the same way we lined up the first two weeks tonight. And then it was just some reason tonight. They were like, all right, we're just gonna call them. But it was just inconsistent. - What were they saying at once? - Same guy be up further on the line. I mean, but then again, the next player, you'll be in the same spot and then are you good? So I mean, I don't know, that's tough. That's tough. So I mean, I just moved up further as I could. And then I looked at the guy who was like, are you good? So I was like, I mean, I'm lined up even with the center now. So I mean, that's what I gotta do, I gotta do it. But I mean, definitely something that, I mean, we're gonna have to work with NFL with it. 'Cause I mean, it's a problem all around the league, all tackles, having to move up so far in line of scrimmage. And it's become a problem on the road games when you're on silent count and then guys getting off the ball before you get a cam 'cause you so far up. So it was just something to work on. - I understand Titus is frustration here. And Titus played really well. Like, I usually bang on Titus. I'm not banging on Titus today. Titus played very well. He's the best graded offensive lineman. And I think he only had one penalty yesterday. The thing is like, this can't be a consistent thing. You get called for it the first time. Okay, go to the official. What did I do wrong? I'm going to fix this. Hey, look at the official. Tell me where I'm at. And I'm not even blaming Titus Howard so much. 'Cause if it happens once, whatever. When it happens multiple times, it's an issue. The problem that I have whenever I hear this quote, they should be coached up on this. This is stuff that you should know before the start of the season. They can't, like we talked about earlier. The officials are coming to your facility before the start of the year. Here are the point of emphasis. Here's what we're looking at. Here's what we're going to do. If Titus Howard is questioning what he doesn't know what he's supposed to do when it comes to lining up on the line of scrimmage, that's where I'm pointing my finger at the offensive line coach and the offensive staff. That message needs to be relayed to the offensive line and that has to be coached up. Well, you think about it too. When you think about the ramifications, when you're talking about, especially in college football but in anything, but if you're a coach and you're offensive, especially if there's a lot expected of you and you're a highly ranked program and you're offense sputters and it's consistent and it continues to happen, the court is probably going to lose their job. There's going to be changes that are going to be made. When you look at guys that are supposed to be doing their job and they're ranked and or paid for, paid like their top five in the entire league, there's a certain set of expectations and you're supposed to be able to understand as a veteran too, that as much as there are veteran moves that you can get away with, there's also times as a veteran that you just got to be smarter, be better and understand that, hey, they came to you. They told you this was going to be a thing. Maybe you didn't get it in week one and week two because of the crew that you had. You got a crew that's going to call it? Be aware of it, but it's once. If it happens once or twice. Six penalties? It's too many. It's too many for anybody, but it's way too many for a guy that's supposed to be a Pro Bowl caliber player. Too many. Tonsal Town is always causing false starts. We'll get your reaction to this on the other side. 7-1-3-7-8-0-3-7-7-6. Is Laramie Tonsal selfish? How much is he hurting the team? Is this a mistake you can make over and over again? 7-1-3-7-8-0-3-7-7-6. It is the B's on ESPN 97-5 and ESPN 92-5. You're listening to ESPN 97-5. Now back to The Killer B's. On ESPN 97-5 and 92-5. Live from the Parentex Community Bank Studios, here's Joel Blanken, Jeremy Branham. Uh, 7-5-6-0. I wouldn't mess with Tonsal personally. I met him a minute made and he's a mountain man too. Of course. He's left tackle in the NFL. I'm not going to shy away from the words I say because of a mountain man who he has called me by name twice. Once in person and once on the internet. Cooler's to you. But I'm not scared. You know what that is? If he beats me up, I'm gonna be a rich man. I'm a dog. I'll be a rich man. Not that. Uh, I would be hospitalized for months, but I would be rich. I would be rich. No doubt about it, but I mean you're an influencer, Jeremy. That is true. So you've influenced him enough to where he responds to you. You know, you get people to follow you and then you have the ability to- Hey, follow me. No, he didn't. He didn't, he didn't follow me. Well, he followed the threat enough to see what you said or got word of it to be able to respond to you. Yeah. That was because of Titus. And I think Titus was tipped off by somebody that works in the media. He was fast. The same way that everything that we say does the same kind of thing. It is funny how it comes about full circle though. The guy, I, hey, Laramie, why are you the only one not helping CJ Shroud? And then today our very own lands are lines calling him a selfish football player. Just saying Eric, the driver zero accountability tonsil should not have a sea on his chest. That's how he's going to play he and how he responds legitimate questions about the frequency of his penalties. I don't care about how he answers questions for what it's worth. The accountability is not what you say in a locker room to the media. The accountability is how you play going forward. It's Jackson. If Laramie tonsil. Yeah, I think it's beyond that. I'm going forward. Absolutely. Turn the counter and turn the pace. How he answers the media, I could not care less. If Laramie tonsil has excuses to, I don't care. If Laramie tonsil though, Jacksonville on gets penalized zero times the rest of the year, that's accountability. That's taking responsibility. That's fixing it. What you say to a bunch of nerds with a microphone isn't going, isn't taking accountability. It's how you play going forward. For what it's worth. That's right. And people tagging him on the internet is odd behavior. People are tagging him saying how bad he sucks. What are you losers doing? Why are you tagging him? Criticizes play perfectly fair, saying he's a bum, saying that he's a pothead perfectly fair. But to tag him on the internet is weird behavior and you need to check yourself. Yeah, that's pretty pathetic. I mean, if that's what you're into and that's what you're after and what is it? Your objective is to get under the skin of someone that's ruffled your feathers or got you mad or played a certain way so that you just didn't agree with. I mean, he's a professional athlete playing for your favorite team. The biggest thing that you can say is that if he truly wants to be better and do better than starting next week against Jacksonville, he will improve his play. And there won't be everyone to one and a half games, at least one penalty so that it keeps stacking up. And he'll show his teammates because that's what it all comes down to. It starts with his teammates and his coaching staff because we can question him all we want and he doesn't, he shouldn't care what we think or what we say, but it starts with the fact that now your team should be a little bit upset because your team will look at the box score, look at the film, be in the rooms with you, be able to point at the screen. And without ever saying a word to you, know exactly who committed the penalties and know that you should be better too. So it's on you to show your accountability to your team and your coaching staff that you can be better, that you do care and that it is noticeable in something you want to change. That's what would be a counter. If he continues to play poorly and has tons of penalties, okay, yeah, he didn't take accountability. If he has the same illegal formation penalties, didn't take accountability. What he says in a post game scrum, I could not care less. One zero to nine tonsils outside leg is moving constantly. Is that legal? Is that him anticipating or confused? I mean, if you move it early, it should be a false start. To me, he's not confused. He's way too good of a football player post snap to be confused. I think he's trying to get that half second meet on the defensive lineman. I think it basically should be called what the Kansas City rule or Kansas City in Baltimore. They were the two most egregious last year with their tackles, basically lining up almost on an angle so that they could start to get that right leverage against the edge rush. And so the national broadcast in the playoffs, especially started to call them out, started to show the video, then you had evidence. The league when they had their competition committee identified it as something we got to stop because it's only going to get worse. And then the offense is going to have too much of an advantage. They did that. Now you have to just accordingly as a veteran who I'm sure this isn't the first time the league has had a point of emphasis and basically said to teams, you got to change stuff. You got to understand how to be better and do it the way that they expect to do it. You've been getting away with too much. This is different from being in the trenches locked up with somebody and you find a way to move him or put him on his butt. This is so egregiously noticeable because it's right there pre snap as you get the wide angle on film, watching those plays back to I thought they called them all correctly. Now to Titus's point, are there a few where they probably were in a legal formation and they didn't call it? Probably. And I get the frustration from the player there. That's why it's got to be coached up. That's why I'm putting a lot of blame on the offensive line coach today. Why? Because of a bunch of illegal formations and because the Texans have a talented offensive line, they have a talented offensive line and they're getting schemed to death. They're getting stunted and gamed to death. Other teams are getting pressure with four against the Texans five, sometimes six. How difficult is that for an offense? You're getting pressured immediately by four and then you have seven dudes in coverage. You can't be effective offensively. Chris Strauss or get it together. Get it together. I still and you're right. I never would have been able to tell you. I knew. Campman was the offensive line coach before because he used to be an offensive line men in the league with the Packers and the Browns. I didn't know who their offensive line coach is or was yet. Now that I know, I mean, yes, it starts with him and it starts with your head coach having a conversation with him and your offensive coordinator having a conversation with him. They've had conversations with him. But now it's even more evident because now it's more obvious. You were rolling the first two weeks where you were winning games enough that people weren't paying attention. Now you can't escape it. It's way too glaring for everyone and something's got to be done. It's not. It's not good. Texture says, you know what ticked me off, obviously tonsil, but also when juice scrubs, when he looked up, literally had a WTF moment. He did it twice. He did it on back to back plays and only one was penalized and you could see Titus Howard cut. He wasn't so much frustrated with juice, but you saw that he went immediately up to juice and then CJ shroud went up to juice and like, hey man, like, come on, come on, let's get it together here. He did it twice. He did it on back to back plays and only one was penalized and the one that was penalized was the first one. He did it right away immediately again and I saw there was one time where Laramie got on doing a little bit too, like he almost like, like, didn't snap it on the appropriate snap counter. The timing was off from juice scrubs. Yeah. I mean, look, I think that when you're talking about the false start penalties, it's separate from the illegal procedure with the way they're lining up. But at the same time, yeah, you can say that. You can work with your center on that, but they're practicing all week long. They're working on these things, but that's a, that's a slight adjustment. Well, as a veteran player, you got to realize if your center's having a little bit of a hiccup with the way he's delivering the football, you can adjust on that too. That's tough. I mean, that's the timing of the whole thing. It is. That's the indicator. To some point, but I don't think that you're going to do have six penalties on you and blame them all on the center. 875, five is that illegal? It is illegal. That's why I was penalized. You can't have the abrupt snap with the head and not snap the football. That's why I got called for it. And he should have been penalized for it twice, quite frankly. I almost think that at one point it was, it was actually Shaq that did it first. And then he was. Oh, he's on the center. Right. I know. But they called it on the center. I don't know if you, I don't know if your guard can be called for that. I thought in the past, if it's that egregious that, that they could call it on the, on the, on the, I thought it can only be on the center, but I don't know that for sure. I don't need it. 7137803776, if you do, 1448, I think Laramie Tunsel is just a narcissistic bad word. That's all it is. Sunday was a much needed kick in the teeth, like when a schoolyard bully finally gets popped in the mouth and it changes his perspective on bad word. Okay. Uh, I mean, he has been the highest paid player in the NFL multiple times. I think that might be where the narcissism's coming in at the same time though. Like I don't really blame a player that's trying to get paid. Maybe that, that, that point is also because Laramie Tunsel always gets very offended whenever he's not called the best left tackle in the NFL. So perhaps that comes into it. Eric, the driver, zero accountability already read Eric's the driver up at the scene on the chest. Is he a captain this year? Tunsel? I don't even know. I think he is. I think he is as well. I, I, I, he's been previously. I don't know why that would change. The only two digs got added. The only two captains that were captains last year and are not this year was Robert Wood. I think Jalen Petrie. So Tunsel will still be a captain. Yeah. He's so captain. Yeah. Weeks. Of course. I know. Legend. Put him in the ring of honor. Quiet. Told you on Minnesota was going to whoop their bad word. I forgot about the easy peasy people. Remember that? People were people. There was a guy who texted in. Man, I'm a good guy. Oh, they say the Vikings were going to win easy peasy. I do remember the term. Texans were. Yeah. Yeah. Texans were going to beat the Vikings. Easy peasy. A seven five five that no eyebrow having bad word. They're retested to have eyebrows. It's very faint. It's very faint. I didn't notice. Because I haven't noticed that either. I don't usually don't check out the eyebrows of anybody, I think. Anyways, that no eyebrows having guy needs to have more cajones and accountability. Texans need more owls. A show. Al Shire. I do love me. Some Al Shire. He's he's might be my favorite player eight one nine two tons. He'll need to anchor his gargantuan but along the center's belt line and not move until the ball is snapped. One hundred million dollar player doesn't know how to line up. He doesn't know how to line up and he's also trying to cheat the snap. Yeah. That's exactly what it is. Look, and let's let's also be honest in the fact that he's not in his complete prime anymore and everybody's looking for an advantage. And this was something that was was not frowned upon until this season. And if you can get away with it, you take every every possible advantage you can get to have the upper hand on the guy that's going up against you. You got to do it. You can't get penalized though. No, I'm going to be smart about it. That's what we're talking about right now if if it's if you're getting caught. And it's also something that they're focused on because they're aware it's been going on for too long, just don't do it or figure out a different way to try and get an advantage. Yeah. Just try to look at the ball like isn't that what the offensive lineman had been doing for years. They look at the ball and as soon as the ball is snapped, they move and it's pretty similar symbol to when they explain it to you by saying your helmet can be no further back than the waistline of your center. Look down the line. If my dome pieces lined up with his hip pocket, I'm in good position. If it's not, you got to fix it. Yeah, I did the the Wade Smith show and Wade whenever Laramie was first here, he was trying to defend Tunzel saying that he's trying to guess the snap count and by doing so, he gets that little slight edge. But how many times do you need to be penalized to where it's not an advantage? Like once again, like can you get away with once again? Like if you could you live with that? If he's getting the slight advantage, I mean, we're kind of used to it already. Could you live with one again? Like how many false how many false starts to where you lose that advantage because I believe that there is an advantage to timing the snap, getting out that little quarter beat sooner than the defense can see the ball and react? I do think there is a slight advantage to that. But how many false starts to where it's no longer the advantage? We have been living with this already in the fact that we almost anticipate the game doesn't start till Tunzel gets one. One is fine. But when you get six and then you start factoring in the times that they happened and the ramifications because they did that that's not acceptable. So how many times? How many? Because like one seven one. Before the snap all the time yes tackles are drop stepping before the snap all the time. They're guessing the count. They're trying to get that little slight advantage. But how many false starts before that advantage evaporates and it's now a disadvantage for your offense? One one. You say two. I mean, I mean, on the average, they're probably dropping back 36 times and two out of 36. I can live with that. You think he's doing on running plays though? It's kind of like when Jeremy says going for why would he wouldn't need to cheat drop it back. So you cheat to get a slight advantage to run. I haven't seen him. I haven't either. I haven't seen the false starts on run plays. I've only seen them on passways. Yeah. Yeah. So he drops back 35 times. He gets caught twice. I'm fine with that. So no more than two. No more than two. Because I agree the advantage is there. That's why he's doing it. I would go no more than two. But I would rather have one. Sure. I'd rather have zero. But I can live with two. I can live with two. But more than two. It's no longer an advantage. Right. You lost the advantage. And you're hurting. You're not just hurting yourself. You're hurting your team. You're hurting your career as well. Yeah. It's kind of like when you said about, you know, you send a message sometimes with your aggressive play. Well, sometimes if your aggressive gets too aggressive and you get penalized once, that's one thing. If you get penalized six times for the same kind of behavior, now you're hurting the team and you're hurting yourself and you're hurting everybody involved wearing your colors. He says, I remember last year, Monday, Sunday night football, the Chiefs lineman kept jumping before the snap. It was an art. You're gaining a small advantage there. But again, what is the number to where you lose the advantage? Uncle Barney says we need Yao Ming for a center so that tonsil can line up right. Throwing over Yao Ming would become difficult though for for CJ's job. Let's give away a couple of tickets for Saturday. 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That's Hunter Brown's music, Hunter Brown on the mound tonight, Astros in the space city uniform for the final time ever the retiring of that tonight you see the Astros Twitter the mission get it space yeah I got it mission tonight the division I can't stand those you know yeah I thought Colorado was the ones that were owning it first and best because theirs were so atrocious but thank God the Astros followed suit got rid of the softball uniforms I will not miss them in the league they're just gonna do a different version next year yeah it'll be the Rockets pinstripes this those are bad what's what is Hunter Brown dude six and one six and one do they win I can't answer that you're not out of the lineup I would say that they're gonna win a wrap it up tonight hope so who knows the short on stuff hopefully the Astros are gonna sweat right how many things Harry going to leave one to the clinched the vision right all I need just be one yep that's it magic numbers to only needs one you will not be happy on Thursday if they don't have the division cleanse no I was good to our car wreck of the day I mean it's it's pretty easy and self-explanatory when you look at it take your choice but we'll start with the Texans we'll just start with the overall Texans we can talk about the offensive line we can talk about Laramie Tunsel we can talk about if it was the worst loss in the Demico era or not it was not pretty it was ugly it was a car wreck from start to finish yeah it's a good car wreck I want to nominate CJ Abrams actually I'm not a hot nominating CJ Abrams I'm nominating the Nationals this guy's a professional this guy's an adult they were in Chicago for goodness sakes what's who's the greatest Chicago athlete of all time well to pay Michael Jordan Michael Jordan on the wall to pray it's not bad Michael what did Michael Jordan what was he notorious for staying up all night gambling and then going out dropping 50 against the Knicks CJ Abrams was trying to channel his inner Michael Jordan CJ Abrams was on the brink of greatness by staying at the Chicago casino until 8 a.m. in the morning and they sent him down to single a they just put a governor on the greatness that CJ Abrams could have been what a shame terrible shame yeah what a shame I'm gonna go to a different part of the Texans game I know John was all worked up about this this morning but how many times is the Mico Ryan's gonna let Justin Jefferson get lined up on Jimmy Ward get lined up on Eric Murray get lined up with Jalen Petrie travel your damn corners to Mico why we have to why do we have to see Murray Cooper to go off to then do it in the rematch why do we have to see it two times before you make the adjustment just do it the first time that's a playoff move only does that the play save it is good stuff save it he's saving that so when he sees the Vikings in the Super Bowl he save it he's saving that for the Super Bowl couple of a text here Ocho says I'm not nominating Andy Dalton because Andy Dalton was great yesterday we'll do game balls tomorrow when the week is over Josh Carrick the day outside of the Texans own line the biggest car wreck is the NFL launching their new discord server go to buddy of mine it's a beautiful disaster how do we not put the Astros bullpen in here somewhere that's just bullpen belong in there you you like that more than the NFL discord why is the NFL having a discord problem I don't think about discord yeah okay nothing about discord all right what's winning I mean tax accidents right I want to blame I want to put on tonsil I'm gonna get more specific that's I mean penalties warrants it yeah tonsil wasn't the reason they lost the game though like he was the worst Texan but was he the reason they lost probably not I guess it's fair to go Texas just all right well and plus they need a win because they didn't win all right you win Texans congrats three no all right does it for us thanks to Brian for the hard work he's blank I'm Brad I'm coming up next boss and the gloss keep it here on ESPN 97 5 and ESPN 92 5 what's next at Moss Adams that question inspires us to help people and their businesses strategically define and claim their future as one of America's leading accounting consulting and wealth management firms our collaborative approach creates solutions for your unique business needs we leverage industry focus insights with the collective technical resources of our firm to elevate your performance uncover opportunity and move upward at at MossAtoms.com.