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2024 AFL Draft - Top 20 Player Rankings and AFL Player Comparisons - AFL Enjoyers
[Music] Hello fellow intros of the AFL. It's Matt here with Dino. We've got something a little bit different today. This is going to be Dino's top 20 players. We'll go top 20 with a few notable exclusions, but... There we go. So the top 20 in the 2024 draft for AFL. Yep. A bit of context. So I love the draft. I follow it quite closely, especially being an earth fan. Now, all the articles you read, there's some differences, but a lot of the same. And quite honestly, I don't agree with a lot of it. There's some key players you'll see in the top 10 there, like some will be familiar, some won't be. I've got a few guys much higher than most, and I've got some a bit lower than most. But I'll justify it all. And I think if you're looking for something a bit different, different analysis of the draft, this is your place to be. Not going to be a copy paste of everyone else. But look, I guess it's a close draft. It's a very good draft. It's an exciting draft. So without further ado, my number one, which it just starts with a bang matzo, because I have a number one that I'm yet to see anyone else agree with. And my boy this year is none other than Murphy Reed. There you go. Murphy Reed, look, I kind of knew so I can't fake the shock so much. I've been banging on for weeks and weeks about this tomato. So Murphy Reed, right? This kid 180 centimeter midfielder can have an impact up forward, but the glaringly obvious thing with this kid is that he is without a shadow of a doubt, the most skillful player in the entire draft. I would even go as far as to say, count last year's draft, count most other drafts. I think this kid's just a special talent when it comes to IQ and disposing of the ball. And some of his hand balls, like every game he's flicking it over his head, no little can balls, like while he's in the air, he's dishing it off. I just think, and especially watching finals, it's glaringly obvious to me that how much time do you have on the ball? You need to get rid of it quickly, accurately. You need to know where your teammates are. And this just oozes class, man. There's another youtuber called Dylan Alexander, great videos, by the way, shout out. He did a nice analysis saying like, who's going to be the sheasel of the draft? And this is my comp for Murphy Reed. He's a bit shorter. But in terms of the way this kid moves and disposing of the ball like that, he's just got this sort of class and he knows where everyone is on the field and can deliver it in exceptional ways. I think like that's the best comp I can give as well. So totally agree with Dylan on that one. Yeah, well, there you go. And look, if you're picking up sheasel at number one, right, obviously, this is shades of sheasel will say, you know, player comp shades of, you know, I always, yeah, good to mention that. I always give like a, yeah, shades of best case scenario. Yeah. Esc player. But it's quite clear. Like we have nothing to like, we know nothing about the mentality of these kids. She's also an exceptional player and mentality monster. Yeah, 100%, which is why he's developed so quickly and rapidly. I could be way up like Murphy could be the lazy guy that's just going to fizzle that. Yeah, you don't know. I'm just judging by someone I see, right? So that's fair. That's fair. I guess when we get player interviews, it might, you know, maybe might sort of change things up. But you know, in saying that how much information do we actually get? Yeah, it's pretty limited. Exactly. But anyway, that's there we go. Starting with the bang with number one. Yeah. And he's, and just to quickly finish up on that, like he's finished the year and Sandringham's make the grand final as of today. They won their game. So, impact on the scoreboard, getting more touches, more midfield time. And in the championships as well for Metro, he was not the leading disposal getter because he had the likes of Jagger Smith and Cohen, his team, but impact class per possession. One of the best I've seen in my years of following the draft. So there we go. Yeah, special talent. I've seen some people give him shouts for top three at best. Yeah, he's mostly seen as like a five to 10. Some people even have him outside the 10, which I think he's ludicrous. Yeah. So definitely, yeah, correct me if I'm wrong in the comments section, but no one's mocking this guy number one that I've seen on the internet. So that's the kind of stuff you can expect in this video. I'm not just saying that for the hot take. Yeah. I genuinely believe he's the best player. No, love it, Dana. Number two gets a bit more what you'd expect. I've got Jagger Smith number two. I remember we're talking about this earlier in the year and you sort of saw if you hire that you're like, oh, he's too skinny. Yeah. I was thinking, Oh, is he just another Will Phillips? Like, I don't know. Yeah. Which I know, I know it sounds harsh right now, you know, but I'm not, both of us North supporters, you know, that's, that's the fear. Yeah. To be fair to Jagger, he's just got him better and better as he has gone on and he played VFL as well. Yeah. And still got the ball. And after that, I was like, okay, there's no way this guy is not a top three pick. And so it, so it got you off. But that's where in the, when you're getting 30 disposals in the VFL, you're best on, you know, you that having those type of performances, that's where I kind of realized as well, I've got to give him some respect as well. Yeah. And it's the way he gets the ball and moves with the ball. It reminds me a bit of Chad Warner. And he doesn't have that power, because we know Chad can just shake off a tackle like anything. He doesn't have that yet. Yeah. But the center, the low center of gravity, the speed, and then crucially, I've been really impressed with his disposal. Like, you'd think just he's a quick accumulator. That could equal Jai Simkin. All right. He's fast. He's agile, but he's got a shocking disposal most of the time. Yeah. I was thinking, Oh, no, he's going to be that. Yeah. But then you see him play and you're like, actually, no, this kid's got IQ. He's actually got skill. And that for me has said, if you can get the ball and be fast and potentially with a bit more size, have that Chad Warner-esque explosiveness with a good disposal, that's what I'm going to be one of the best mids in the league, eventually, potentially. Yeah. That's fair. So I think it's only fair to his production and like what you see with your eyes. You can't, you can't pick many kids over him. Yeah. And I would understand if he goes on one in the draft, to be honest, to Richmond, he's got ties to Richmond, apparently, local, I think he lives in and grew up in Richmond. Yeah. Richmond VFL as well. Richmond VFL. So yeah, he's an exceptional talent. But there is a question mark on his size. But the kid's 17, 18 years old. So I'm not going to hang in for that. I think you'll be just fine, to be honest with you. So he's the shades of, I'll go Warner. I'll go Chad Warner. That's unless you can think off the top of your head, another like smaller, really quick player, like a budders maybe. Yeah, budders. Yes. So shades of Warner slash budders. Yeah. I think that's look, that's, that's kind of what you want at the pointy end of the draft. So yeah, anyway. My number three, I've got Levi Ashcroft here, finally. Now, I know guys like Keltumi, who you know I love. Yes. Respect the man. He's heading number one. I think honestly it's because Kelt's got no idea this year. Not, not, not, he's takes a bag. Yeah, no, not that he's takes a bag. I mean, like he doesn't have intel on who's going on. And that's, and that's the thing. I feel like he does base his, you know, his phantom form guide a little bit on who he thinks is going on. Yep. Yep. You know, this is around the time like teams like Richmond and North have been out of the finals for weeks now. This is, he generally knows by now the top couple picks, because again, these teams have been out of finals. He's got no idea this year. Yeah. And I, I credit that to the quality of the draft and the teams are keeping the cards close to the chest. And that's that, I like that. Now in saying that, there's no way Richmond's beating on him one and knowing North's history. I can't see us beating on him at two. We, we bit it on his brother. So we, I don't, yeah, maybe we did him too. And then she's a warlord. Yeah. So we probably, look, if we like him, we might, we might. Yeah. And I think we would like, yeah. I'm thinking we won't be it. But anyway, it doesn't matter. Yeah. I do think he's a top three player in the draft. The shades of is going to be very boring. I'm just going to go for his brother. Fair enough. They are a bit different. Yeah. That's a lazy comparison. But all we need to know about this kid is tough, good disposal, ultra consistent, gets the ball, kicks goals. I think with what we've seen from, like, from his brother in the finals, like, you know, that's impact pretty early on if, you know, if he's shades off will correct. And you look at like the Daikos brothers impact. Yeah. The, I think there's a bigger drop off between Nick and Josh, even though Josh is a great player. Yep. I think Levi and Will can be like one in the same copy post output and output in class, which is a bit unfair, but credit to Mr. Ashcroft. Yeah. He's got a few nice boys there. Yeah. That's it. You know, like, it is a little bit boring, but like that's if that's the case, man, Brisbane, man. And I did have, yeah, I did have, sorry, Levi further down a few weeks ago. And you sort of called me up on it. You said, man, are you sure about this? Because you were seeing his stats? Yeah. I was looking at the things when you look at stats and you look at scoreboard impact, like, I kind of had to go look, Dana, I know you want to do these draft videos, but like, I don't want you to, you know, I want you to have a little bit of validity. What it was for me was he didn't blow me away at the championships, where the best of the best play each other. But more than that, I was sort of thinking for a while, like, is this kid just an accumulator and he's just dominating this level? But then the more the years gone on, you've seen, like, he's just an unselfish player, but he also sees it as the moment when he needs to. So I think he's just got this calmness to him. And then he played the v-file game for Brisbane and played very well for the v-file team. I'm like, okay, these kids impressive me now against men as well. I got my act together there and bumped him to where he belongs, which is in the top three. So those three there for me are pretty sure things, pretty sure things. Now, the next kid, people still have him one, two, three. No one's dropped him further than this. And I didn't have the guts to fear no Sullivan, number four. This kid this year has had injuries, he's had a fractured thumb, he's recovered from it. But when he has played, he's been more like a forward mid hybrid, which isn't a bad thing. So was a sheasel, for example. But there's something about his lack of production that's worrying me a little bit. Now in saying that, he's incredibly talented. My comp for him has been Sam Walsh. I think he's got some distant relation with him anyway. Yeah, he does, yeah. But it's more so the way sort of a Sam Walsh, his body size, like he's got long arms, longer legs, and he would just sort of sidestep people in the boat when the pressure's coming to him. He can fight through it, but you prefer to go around them and use his speed and his endurance on the outside. He's got a bit of that. Excellent hands, like ridiculously good marking overhead for his size, only like 182. I was going to say that's the thing that well, she doesn't have, you know, I'm not that we've seen it anyway. But yeah, that's and that's what I've seen in interviews that he's talked about it. Yeah, my markings a bit of a strength and that's that's a big point of difference. Yeah. And he's an excellent player. The thing is though, last year in his underage year, he was averaging about 23, 24 disposals. And he was one of the best on his Oakley team and for Vic Metro, mind you, as an underage player. So everyone's like, this kid's a shoe in for number one. He was mock number one all off season. And the more the years gone on, there's the believers who think it's just one year of injury form. He's still my number one. There's others that are saying, you know what, like the output and in this camp, the output of the other kids, I think fairly moves him down because he hasn't produced this year. Yeah. But he has played for Richmond's VFell. He'll get low touches, but score some amazing goals. And you're thinking, he might make the teams that pass on him, if they do, if Richmond doesn't pick him on, he might make them pay for it. Yeah. But he also might not be that guy. I don't know. Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting because you got to go with what, you know, you got to go with the evidence that's, you know, in front of you. And if you haven't done it, like, recency bias is a thing as well, of course, you know, correct. And then another thing, like, progression is linear. You know, you can't expect to, like, even the 23 disposals a game as an underage, that doesn't mean he's going to go up straight away the next year. It doesn't mean it's going to be a natural progression. It's, yeah, 100%. And you know, draft like this, that's very competitive. I still do have him fourth. So that should say a lot about how much I do like him. Yeah. But just to give you an example, right? So today, he actually played an Oakley, unfortunately, lost, because I was hoping to see him in Jugger one more time. But, he had 20 touches and two goals with eight marks and five tackles. That's a great game. Yeah. All right. He's other games. He's only played three other games all year. Last week, 16 touches. No goals. Yeah, that's, then he played in round 19. He had 18 touches and three goals, a great game. And then he's first game of the year when he did have that injury was 15 touches. Yeah. He's only played those four games and a couple of others in the championships. He was just, I think he just rushed himself to play. Didn't have an impact. So I just think like he hasn't played that much. He's shown his skill. He's only can score goals, but I can't mock him one. Yeah, I guess there's less of a sample size to give you that, you know, yeah, that reason to put him up. I can't put him ahead Jugger ahead of Jugger and Levi. And I just really like Murphy read the best. He's not moving from one. So he goes for that. That's how it goes. Number five. This is my first and non-Victorians will be saying, where's the non-Victorians? You're biased. No, I'll burn you. And you know, you're probably right. Yeah, fact. But also, we're just better at footy. No. Number five is Sid Draper. Here we go. Nice. Sid Draper has been playing sandfall. He's played the most senior footy out of any one of these top prospects this year. So that is a big tick in my own similar to Horn Francis doing the same. Not as much impact as Horn Francis. So let's get that clear. Yeah. I'm not even in the scoreboard anywhere near as much, for example. But he's shown his ability to get the ball. And the best thing about him is his toughness and his explosiveness out of the pack. So I think if you're able to show those skills at sandfall level at this age, I think that boats pretty well for your ability to be an explosive, powerful, impactful midfield at the next level. That's fair. My shades of, I struggled a bit with him. I've sort of gone for like a sarong type. Maybe even lately, like a giant nukem. Dare I say? Yeah. That's mate. I think he's got more explosiveness out of the pack though. Really? Then a joy. Okay. That's compliment. The only reason he's, and you would think like if he's playing against men producing like wise, any higher, and some people again have him one. I think the ESPN rankings have him one right now. Oh, wow. Yeah. Why I don't, I don't think his disposal is up to scratch, like the others is fair enough. So he's running, he's looking to handle his kicks aren't blowing me away. But what a play though. He's still going to be a very powerful unit. Couldn't see a team like North picking him like, for example, like a team that's already got some young mutes. I can see them going a Callahan. I can see them going even a Jagger Smith or a Murphy read because they offer that skill inside outside. I think these kids more like an inside short, but gets in there and just explodes outside top of player. Who's Callahan? Is that Callahan? I'm sorry. I was going to say, and I was like, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm trying to say I'm like, he's my draft knowledge that bad. No, no, no, no, no. Sorry, man. Sorry. Yeah. Like I know Sullivan. So, no, I really like Sid, though, and there were some moments in the championship for SA. I think he was their best last year as an underrager and this year. So, he's got that leadership, the toughness that you want from a mid and the explosiveness. I just questioned the disposal a little bit, but I could be wrong. Again, I would say any of these top five are worthy ones. That's pretty crazy. Yeah. Credit to this draft. Credit to the draft. Now, number six, my first key position player. Okay. All right. Here we go. Harry Armstrong. Now, that's that that feels high to what I've seen. That's interesting. This is probably my first big riser, although even Cal to me sort of mentioned him as a top five fancy. So, I think he's pushing mainly because of his output. My comp and sort of shades of with for him is Nick Larky slash Aaron Cadman. Right. Interesting. Interesting. Yes. Why would I do that, you ask? For me, he's got the long arms that a Cadman and Larky have, but he's that low disposal, lethal finishing of the Larky. Okay. Whereas Cadman, I think at his prime, he's going to be more of a higher disposal forward. Yeah. Because he moves up the ground. Moves up the ground more. I don't think Armstrong does that. He's got his body, though. He's got the left foot, the long arms. Yeah. So, that's why I say sort of shades of Cadman fair enough. But in terms of an actual realistic output, I think a Nick Larky sort of, but in saying that he jumps at packs more than Larky does. See, that's and that's where I was going to ask you because like Nick Larky is not like he's not a guy making pack marks and you know, make any preference. That's right. So, yeah, lethal kick for goal, long kick for goal. Evidence is there. He's had multiple games of four goals, five goals and low touches, including at the championships when all was on the line kicked four goals in that game that they won. So, his ability to jump at packs, but he's still pretty raw as well, but not stick figure, skinny raw. Yeah. So, I think he's, I just think he's really good. I think he forwards, assuming you pick them at the right time in the draft can be gold, especially like you think of a Cadman went one. I think these kids pretty similarly talented, similar under Agio, sorry, similar draft here. And he's going 60 miles. I struggled up. I mean, I could easily put him 10th and just say, I don't rate him, but I really like him. I think he's going to be, I mean, for example, Matzo, you're a North fan. If North was to just say, you know what, pick two, go get him. Yeah. I think it's justified. It's risky because there's some good mids you're passing on. That's the thing. Yeah. But I'll say this as a North fan. We could use more mids. I know people say we have mids. We need class, man. That's the thing. That's the thing. Like Tom Powell's cool, but like he's not the most explosive. He's not, he can use it. Okay. Sometimes when he's open, will Phillips, you know, is he going to be a tag or is he going to be a full on baller? Yeah. No, no, you mean, you know what I mean? Like we could use the class of a read of a Jagger Smith and co at the top of the draft here, but we could also use a key forward. And if we say, you know what, we see the potential in this kid, you special, I would back it. Yeah, even it too. Now I don't think that's going to happen, but I like the kid and I think he's really good. But it is a bit of a risky one, just giving it a key forward. Yeah, fair enough. Simple as that. Number seven, this is where I've got Josh Smiley. Okay. A lot of people had this guy one for a long time. And why wouldn't you 194 centimeters? He was the hyped guy very early. Yeah. Now, why have I called on him slightly? I kind of feel silly for having him at seven, but I don't know. My thing with him is he's 194 centimeters. I don't see him using that like you would expect at this age. And what do I mean by that? I don't see him bullying and getting too many contested marks against shorter players. I don't see him shrugging off smaller mids in the contest as often as I'd like. But he's got a good kick on him. Now, this is the funny thing. You'd expect someone of that size at that age to just be a bully. And maybe he's outside games or question mark. I actually think he's better on the outside than he's on the inside. Yeah. And that's for me a bit confusing, because what's going to happen at the AFL level when him being 194 centimeters is cool and all, but not necessarily needed to succeed as a midfielder. Yeah. So it's easy to sort of say, oh, shades of bond, but I don't think he's like the bond. I don't think he's like that. Shades of Finkelihan, maybe. I actually had an interesting one, and I want to be clear here. I'm not talking current version of this play. I'm talking like prime shades of not his him, prime shades of a Mitch Duncan, who is more of an outside. He's a bit taller. Yeah. You wouldn't consider him like a full-time mid. Yeah. Can mark the ball above his head, but not necessarily like a pack mark. I was just I was reaching a bit for this one. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't want to say Tom Green, though, or Crips, like as a taller mid, because he doesn't play like that brute like they are. Yeah. And the thing is, this is his opportunity to play like that, because he's big. But I really like him. And again, like, I always use the thing if North picked him at two, how would I feel? I'd be excited. Yeah. He's not a bad player. He's not a bad player. He could go one for Alaino. I just think like those other guys, I look at him like, yeah, that makes sense. Jagger makes sense, Lea makes sense. Smiley doesn't really play like I expect when I watch him, but he still does some awesome stuff. So like tall Mitch Duncan. That's a pretty nice player, man. It's a nice, it's a great player. Yeah. But again, he didn't have a great championship either, and that sort of made me think like, why not? Why didn't you take the game over a bit? Yeah, that's fair. You know, so that's why I slipped a bit, but I still do rate him really highly. The next one, actually, you mentioned Finn Callahan. That's actually funnily off my comp for this next guy. Okay. She's Harvey Langford. All right. Okay. Yeah. He's getting a little bit of buzz. Getting lots of buzz. Cal's had him in the top three, which I think is just because he actually does do more of that. Your 190 centimetre midfielder. He goes for what he takes a packmark. And he's got that leadership that I don't think a Smiley has. Maybe I should flip the two. I have flirted with that idea. But I think he's had a bit of a knock on him about his pace out of the contest. He's a great kick, but he doesn't have that real explosion. So maybe the Finn Callahan comp is a bit of a funny one because Finn does have a bit more of that pace. It's kind of like, this might sound weird, but like a Matt Crouch, Finn Callahan hybrid. Does that make any sense? Yeah. I know you mean because Matt Crouch doesn't have that explosion that you want, but he's so classy that he makes it work. Yeah. But again, a great player. Where he ranks on that, if North picked him at two, how would I feel? I'd be a bit confused. But it's saying that we don't have a 190 centimetre midfield. So maybe, I won't do as my maybe in the future, but I don't think he's in that top three. I think Cal's reaching a bit there. But he might know more about his character than I do. This is the thing. Yeah. I think his Cal is like probably mates with all these guys. Yeah. So I have inside bird, like this guy doesn't leave the gym. I don't know that. Yeah, that's the thing. That is true. I guess you're going based on what you see on the field. Correct. He has the whole picture. Yeah. And he's a great, again, excellent player. I would say in most drafts, he's probably a lock for three to five. And he still might be in this draft, but I sort of like the other guys a bit better. So I pushed him out. Cool. Next one, number nine. I've got Toby Trevaglia. I had this guy for a while, like third or fifth or like around there. Yeah. I was going a bit crazy. Yeah. I just like those players and I've got his comp to Will Day. No, a little bit. And he even had like a Nick Blakey thing up and for a while. They're not as tall, not as tall. So you probably get where I'm going with this. Like I like those players that are just when the balls are round, it's like running through a brick wall to go get it. Like don't care who's in my way. I'm getting this thing. It's not going to be pretty. It's mine. He's that kind of guy, tough as well. He's played multiple positions, defense. I like him off half back, played a bit on ball, played a bit forward, kicked a few goals. But I think he will find a home next year for a some team off half back as that sort of interceptor, but occasionally goes a bit mad going on a run, whether that'll work out long term. I think it will. You know, it kind of reminds me of like the way you talk about him. It's a bit like Josh Whittle. Yeah, is the way you talk about him. Yeah, you know what? And no one thought Whittle would be the player he is in his draft year. He was considered more of a key back, just stick to your job. But he's just gone off his man and gone crazy now. So you're quite right. Funnily enough, I think you're fourth on, I'm not going to keep their pick, but if they were staying at where are they like 13, he's probably the guy at 13 for them to be honest with you. Seems like a horse on kind of a go. Yeah, fair enough. So that might give the viewers a listen as an insider to his play style, potentially, chaotic, tough versus a total player. Cool. And I really like that. I think running out the top 10 team at nine is he doesn't have the class of these other plays. It's why he's being pushed out, but he's got that intensity that I like as well. Yeah, fair enough. Now, number 10 is 100% my biggest bolt of the entire draft. Okay, here we go. I, before I'm setting it up, I'm building up it. I don't understand why these guys are not getting first round shout outs, like a given that he's a top, uh, the first round pick. Cale Giron from Perth, Australia, I should say, sorry. Yeah, you've told me about this one. Man, there's something about this guy when you watch him play. And I know he's been playing waffle colds, which for those that don't know, it's probably the weakest of the under ratings, competitions, but he did play one senior game in the waffle and played forward. Now, this guy's forward rock, more of a forward, sorry, more of a rock, but he's just got this incredible athleticism and low center of gravity for a rockman to the extent that he's getting involved in handball chains. He's running with the ball, taking a bounce. He's just not a conventional rock and he leaps at the ball like you'd expect from a key forward. I've got his common. This is a wild one, right? Yeah. I've got rock text. Rock text. People are going to think like, what the hell have been smoking, man? But this is the kind of stuff I come up with, and rock text. You're not going to get draft analysis like this. But what I mean by that is like, Texas is a key for what is a big dude, but he does have a low center of gravity, which is why he's being a great player. Yeah, he's very skillful, very skillful. He'll hold the ball in one hand, he'll wait for the defender to draw, he'll handle it over or around. Cale does this every week. Yeah. But he's just a rock version of it. He's taller. Yeah. I think the interesting part of this is that you're watching this and you're seeing this. Now it's just like, how quickly will this translate to the big stage? You'll definitely be a forward first, because I mean, no rookie rockman just comes in and plays rock. Yeah. Yeah. So he'll be a forward. But again, I'm just going to think about it with a North lens. If North drafts him, there's no way he doesn't replace for intake or, for example, no way. Like say we recruited Jack Darling to replace pink, this would be someone to replace teak or instantly. You're not losing anything. You're gaining all this skill. And that's the number one thing I'll just really bang on about, his skill for his size and his speed for his size is ridiculous. I don't know why he's not getting, and my basis for this judgment, by the way, is shout out, big, big shout out to footy stuff on YouTube, the goat page of AFL highlights for the draft prospects. Yeah, 100%. This guy is a grinder, massive respect, and he uploads the kale vids, and that's a sign in itself, because he doesn't, he's a busy man. He doesn't waste time on prospects that don't deserve it. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. So, no, he's my dude, man. I'm tempted to, like, swap him with Armstrong by the end of it. Like, as my first, maybe not to six, but like as my first key taken in my eyes. Yeah, well, that's interesting. He might be interesting. He's probably going to be, if you rise, there's maybe 15 at best, but I'm not even seeing that. I'm seeing, like, later. Yeah, like second, second round prospect. Yeah, which I would love him to slip to North second round pick. Like, if that happened, man, I'm praying for that. Yeah. I'm very curious to see how it goes, because you've gone out on a limb, because no one, I haven't heard anything from anyone else. That's what I do, man. That's it. That's good. That's good, man. I just listen to my eyes. That's it. I know that sounds a bit weird. I listen to my eyes, more than anything. Am I hot? That's cool. I like that, man. I like that. You're going to like this next one, too, potentially. Not really. Number 11, I've got Leo Lombard. So this is a... Gold Coast. Academy pick. The easy comp, and I mean, he said it himself, it's Took Miller. He looks up to Took, plays like Took. He's outside power and speed. He's, I think, he's a bit shorter. Okay. Yeah. Not as muscular, obviously. He's younger. But he's been playing V-Fell with Gold Coast, I think, all, like, last year, he was involved in their premiership. Oh, wow. And this year, as well. So he's, and I think he's finished school, like, he's been just focusing on footy for a while now. He might be, if it wasn't for the Sun Stack midfield, he'd be coming in straightaway, and, for example, in comparison, be playing better than Rogers as a baseline. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's Jake Rogers. Who's not a bad player? Not a bad player. No. He's a good player. But I think Lombard's better. And if their midfield wasn't stacked, he'd be, he'd be playing on board next year. Say there was an injury. He'd be in. And I mean, that kind of player is exciting. He's fast, skillful. He's just lucky, he's small. And you just wonder, like, is he going to be just like a low position impact player? Or is he actually going to be a two-clack and accumulator? Who knows? Yeah. But that's why he slipped a bit. And quite honestly, there is a bit of bias in it. Like, I haven't watched as much of him because I know he's taken. Yeah, it's fair. And he will slip and teams won't want to bid on him because of that, as well. Yeah, fair enough. Like, you just sort of fall in love with what you can get, not what you can't get sometimes in the draft. That's fair. Great player, though. Number 12, people have this guy as like a smoky for, I'm not going to say number one, but three, five is Sam Laula. Yes. Yeah, I've seen that name. He's a midfielder. He's a strong unit. I've got him comped to like a, it's going to sound like a half and half, half Cunningham. But like half, he's sort of like a forward impact of like a Jamie Elliot to go. He like, he can actually jump and take a mark. Now you might say, like, that sounds like an unstoppable force. I'm like, quite honestly, like when he's at his best, he kind of is. Problem is, he's been injured. He hasn't been at his best every game. He's more being a moments player, not a, this guy is getting me 20 to 30 touches every week kind of player. So that's why I've dropped him out of the tent in saying that he could go five, I reckon. And that's all the talk. I'm just on the potential alone, like one, two full pre seasons in a whim focusing on 40. Again, you don't know his mentality, but there's every possibility. He's one of the better players in the future. He's probably a potential pick more than a guarantee for sure thing. And usually I like those guys a lot, but it's a stack draft and he just had to drop out a little bit. Yeah, he might as well take the sure thing with that many decent mids. Correct. Like teams like, I'm just thinking he's going to have picks around here, like a Melbourne or teams like that might want that powerful mid to replace Padraka or furry. But they might be the ones to take a risk on someone like that. 13, I've got another WA guy who's Bow Island. Look, at a certain point, I needed to get rid of my bias and throw in these interstate guys, because quite frankly, this guy is WA's best prospect, aside from Kyle Geron in my eyes. But he's their best mid. He's one, I think he's 190, 191 centimetres, powerful guy. He's got that leadership thing about him like a Draper captain of the WA team. I've got his shades of to Dunkley. I don't think he's the smoothest disposal, but I think he's just tough. And he can take a grab and he's just going to be a good team player. Yeah, that'd be a good player. If you add his best, if he can reach that, that's a good player right there. Exactly right. And I don't know, I think West Coast, I mean, they won't get him with their first pick, but if they can find a way to get another first round pick in that mid like like after 10 to 15, they probably would want to like target him and get him. Yeah, 100% free or probably getting rid of all their picks to Richmond. So they're probably out of the equation. Yeah, true. So he's a good player. I think he's just solid, good midfielder. I don't think he's like take over the game, you know, sort of you're carrying a team to a flag, but he might be like that crucial second or third cog in your midfield. That's just ultra consistent. So nice player there. You need those ones. Not to put you on the spot, but it's the only one I'm omitting matter that you've seen high up on draft boards. I've got someone in mind. There's a certain fellow by the name of Luke trainer. Yeah, I don't even think of that guy. Now he's not even next. He sure is not mocked to number two. He's not next. And this is I just wanted to bring this up. Every and this is part why I wanted to do this video. Yeah. And it's no disrespect to all these guys with the other channels on YouTube and whatnot, but like stop mocking Luke trainer to north at two. I get it. He's got family ties or something to North Melbourne. I get he said on getable that he likes North Melbourne. That doesn't mean North's going to spend the number two pick on this kid. If he does, Matt, you can retweet me. You can come at me in any way online. You are. I will admit I'm wrong, but there in my eyes is like a 99.9% chance. He's no way, no way going on a north at two. So is he pick 15 or 14? He's not yet. He's not yet. I just wanted to get this off my chest. I'm just saying simply stop mocking him to north at two. Okay. If you're doing like a realistic mock draft with like North splitting the picks, go ahead. Yeah, like stop it with him in the top five. He's not a top five pick is in my eyes. He's not even a top 10 or 15 pick because he's not he's not next. Yeah. So what's the next pick? So next is 14. I've got Isaac Kakko. Yeah. Unfortunately going to a certain due to the academy rules changing once again. I've got grime eyes for him. He's small. He's explosive. He can get the ball. He moves up the ground. Good disposal. More of an assist kind of guy, but he can kick crucial goals. There's there's probably no better comp in the league than him than Lionel Messi. Lionel Messi himself, but not exciting player. And I think he's gone off people's radar lately because he's been injured and kind of got injured around the asset and academy confirmation. So everyone's like already, I find I'm not watching him anymore. Yeah, fair enough. And he got injured. So he's out of sight out of mine right now, but he's a very good player. Definitely top 15 pick for me. 15 have got Job Shanahan. Yeah. Now he played VFL for asset and for a few games and kick goals in every game like couple goals. That's impressive. And you're probably thinking like why is he near then higher than Armstrong, for example. I just think Armstrong isn't as developed as him physically. And that's leading itself to more production right now for Shanahan. Yeah. But I just like Armstrong a lot better as a future prospect. I think he's got longer arms, a better jump and a more accurate kick. And I just think like long term, he'll be lethal. But Job is like a fundamentally good forward, like a Rand Rin or a Georgiades kind of player can jump at it, creates a contest can kick some goals, solid, like a B plus sort of forward figures to come. Yeah. So Van Rin and Georgiades as a shades off. Something like that as a shades off. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Like him a lot though. Like him a lot. Next I've got number 16, a little bit higher than most, but I think I would have been prouder over this ranking a few weeks ago, but everyone's caught on and moved him up. Yeah. Cooper Hines. I've had this guy for a while. For me, he's closest shades off would probably be like a Will Haywood taller, but plays like that energetic forward, like a medium forward that actually can crumb and punish you at ground level. So the point where today in the, he plays with Dandy Long, he was playing on ball. Okay. Right. So he can got a bit of class in that regard a little bit of grunt work as well. Powerful, 190 centimeter, I think. But when he's forward, he kicks goals, when he's in the middle, he gets the ball. So I think he's just this guy that sees the ball, goes, it gets at his powerful, he can market, kick goals. So yeah, I've got him at 16. I think he's a pretty sure thing to be an impact player at a club for many years to come. Cool. Cool. Cool. Number 17, he's the big rise zone. He might keep rising based on athletic testing. He's the big viking as, as Cal calls him, is Alexander Tae-ru. Alexander Tae-ru. Yeah. The flying viking. The flying viking, that's the one. Yeah. And the reason he's got that name is quite obvious is that he looks like a viking. He's got, he looks like a viking. He's got the blunt ball cut look and thing. And he just, he's tough and he just flies at the ball. Yeah. Not the most refined player. And you're probably thinking, how are you putting him above trainer, for example? Yeah, actually, that's true. Yeah. They're both intercept defenders. The big difference for me is this kid is just nuts when it comes to aggression. Yeah. And I rate that as an intercept player. Simple as. I've got here, shades of, and you're going to love this one. Taller, Jackson Archer. So Jacko's already getting shades off. That's how much we read him. Yeah, that's true. We have big Jackson Archer, enjoys. But I think Jackson is more your traditional medium. Like you'll play small, he'll play medium, not quite the tools. I think Tairus more equipped to play the tools and the mediums. Yeah. I think we'll really enjoy as a VFL. No, Jackson Archer. But he's a baller. He's a baller. And look, a taller version of that, someone who can be almost a little bit more like a key. That's pretty, that'd be dangerous, man. And he's, the interesting thing about Tairus, that he's gone forward and had an impact. Okay. And a few weeks ago, we had those couple of weeks here in Melbourne, where the weather was windy as in the games. He was playing defense when the wind was going towards his defense. Yeah. And then when the wind was going the other way, they put him forward to utilize his aerial prowess. And he was having an impact. Yeah, that shows, yeah. And he score goals. That shows like respect that the team has for him and realizing what they got on their hands. And he's raw. So he could easily become the, maybe the best keep position player in the draft when it's all set of done. But he's too raw to, to say right now in my eyes, he's a top 10 pick. So is that why you can't go ahead and just be like, you know, like Tom Stewart vibes? Is that why you can't go that clean? Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. He's a, he's a one grab. It's mine. Then dispose of it at an elite level. Yeah. Tairus more like, I don't know if I'm in a market every time, but I'm going to get to that ball first. Yeah. And then when it hits the ground, I'm after it. Like he's not clean yet. Yeah. But it might be. And he'll deservedly go in the top, the first round for sure. Now finally got Luke trainer. And I want to say, like, I've got nothing against the kitten. This is, so he's number 17 in the end? Is that what it is? Eighteen. Eighteen. Eighteen. There's nothing against him whatsoever. Yeah. I just don't see it like other people do. That's a top 10 pick. Yeah. He's an intercept player. He does have to sometimes go forward, but not as, he won't play forward. And when people are saying like, he's like a Ridley, like Ridley's a fine player. But I'm not looking at really like some barometer to success for an AFL team. To be honest with you, I think he's a very good player, but he's, I don't know, he's not crucial to a team success, like having a player like him. Luke, you got to say it really plays for us. And so it makes a little bit harder. He's young. Yeah. No, but I think, I think the hype train got on trainer very early because he had two and one especially good game for the AFL Academy. Yep. Which is respect for that. Well done. But I think just people got carried away with saying he's the best key player in the draft way too early. And I just don't see it. I think he's very good though. He's in the first round. Yeah. I'm not being disrespectful here, but stop mocking him at two. Are we shadesing him? Oh, yeah. Shades of Ridley. Yeah. Shades of Ridley. Yeah. Okay. Which would be a great outcome for him. Yeah. But players like that take a bit of time to develop because he's so skinny. Like again, I look at North as a comparison. Look at the start of Josh Godas draft year and trainers. It's not that different. Trainers are a bit bigger. Yeah. And that's the part of the draft that Goda was mocked to. Correct. Like he was, he was a late first round type guy. I could get, he moved a bit higher up the ground, got games of over 20 touches. Yeah. Similar vibes. Okay. And I love Goda. Yeah. I hope he's got a future at North, but I'm not picking that guy in the top 10. Yeah. Not a man's fair. That's fair. I want to, I want to put that one. I did the editing. I'll put Goda in there as well. Sure. There's a shades of, you know. So nine ends around out, two more picks in our top 20. I've got Joe Berry. Joe Berry. Okay. He's more your small forward, a little bit of mid, but probably more of a small forward. I've got Dylan Moore vibes. So at his best case scenario, he'll be getting more of the ball and, and being more of a playmaker for the team as well. Yeah. But I think to start with, he's more that crumming forward, explosive power. And he's not as small as other small forwards. He's 180 centimetres. So he's not like small, small. He's, he's got a bit of, bit of physicality to him to grow into, I think. And then number 20 to round things off. I think I'm pronouncing this correctly. He's Jack O. Jack O. I made Jack O. Okay. Right. He's a 194 centimetre midfielder. I've got Connor Nash, but smoother. Because we know Connor Nash. He's a bit rough around the edges. Yeah. He's Irish after all. He's an Irishman, right? But he's, you doing accents. It doesn't, I don't expect a fair car. But I, Jack O, he's just quietly gone from more of an outside player to inside. Yeah. He kicked a crucial goal to win the game today. Okay. I mean, the prelim. And I just think at that size, getting the ball, he gets rebound fifties and inside fifties. So he's, he's being a traditional wingman at times. And why I say he's a smoother Nash, he's, yeah, Nash is seaboard, get ball, tackle, just rough. Yeah. I think he's not as physical as that, but he just makes up for it in other areas. Like his class and he's, I think he's got more of an engine to be like a more traditional midfielder. Yeah. So, and I'm wondering for centimetres, it's a nice little risk at the end of the first round, in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. I don't think he's got that high, high and talent or skill, but you never know. Yeah. No, of course. That's the thing when you got the physical, you know, make up, you know, sometimes, you know, you, you might just, you know, yeah, you know, you might exceed, you know, expectations. Yeah. But yeah, I can quickly run through maybe, you know, four or five honorable mentions that just just snuck out. Well, there's two very notable ones, which is the Whitlock Brothers. Yeah, true. Two key position players, one, both ended up playing forward in second half of the year. Matt was usually a defender. They're very tall. Both 198, also centimetres. Yeah. Speaking of physical makeup, there you go. There's some big boys there. Yeah. Yeah. I just, something about them is a bit too stiff for me. Like, you know, those, how we say like the King Brothers as an easy comp. Yeah. Both of the King Brothers have this agility to them. Yeah. Yeah. That I don't think these two brothers have. Okay. But they're tall and they're impacting games already. Yeah. I think they're going to be fine. I think if you're getting them in the second round, you're laughing, to be honest, they'll probably go higher. Sure. It's probably like the how good this draft is if those type of guys are going in the second round. That's those type of physical specimens. Exactly right. Another honorable mention, you kick five goals today is John T. Fool, another key position player. So I think if you're needing a key position player, you're probably waiting to see who's there at your second round peak, like a North Melbourne, for example, you wouldn't reach for one at two. And there's another guy who unfortunately did his ACL at the start of the year, but his first game or two, I believe, he played, Taj Hodden. Yeah. His highlights popped up just to remind me. This kid was like Connor Rosie-esque height and speed. Yeah. But he unfortunately did his ACL. So I can't put him in my top 20. Fair enough. It's similar to Braden George going to North in round two. A lot of North in this. This is what's relevant to us. It's the basis of my comparison. So looking for team picks him in the first round, I would be surprised. But as soon as the second round starts, that's like you're nabbing him for his potential because he was mocked to go like top 10 or five. Is he Vic Boy? Vic Boy, Sandringham. Okay. Sandringham's stuck, bro. So yeah, there's a few others. I mean, I'm not going to talk about every single one of them, but I'll go one or two more. Christian Marais has not been playing as much footy in the second half of the year, but he's got like a Josh Daikos-esque sort of player in my eyes. And then you've got Xavier Lindsey's probably a bit stiff to not be in the top 20. He's, I think he was the captain of Gippslam Power, played very well at the championships of his country. He's a left footer, very good disposal, but I just don't think he's got enough pace on him to be a proper midfielder. He's maybe more like an outside distributor, sort of midfielder. So who would that be? Maybe his pace isn't like these guys, but like a Sinclair or a Houston or a Lared, maybe at best, but he doesn't have their pace. Yeah. Excellent disposal. He'll probably go top 20. I might be wrong on that one, but it's a stuck draft. Yeah. I think every team is going to come out of it like very confident. They've got contributors in year one, to be honest with you. That's my exciting times when I fill the draft. Exciting for teams are only in the finals. We have something to look forward to. Oh, this is, you can see as an orth fan of mainly be concentrating on this. Yeah, it's fair enough than the actual season because it's, that's what it's about, man. We hope that some of these players, just as every team, they're the ones lifting the trophy at some point. Yeah, true, true. So we can dream. We can dream, man. Hey, it can change quickly. Change quickly. That is true. We'll look at Orthon. Orthon, Cal Shadier. Cal Shadier. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Sandy dragons wasn't their best forward. He's Juraian. He's going to be the Cal Shadier of the draft. Who's that player for Richmond? I forget, he's on the foul. The foul, yeah. He's kind of like him, but just huge. That's, yeah. You know, he just jumps at the ball. You're like, that's pretty simple. He saw the ball and he jumped at it and he's athletic enough to go get it. Yeah. He's like that, but a rock version. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Anyway, you killed it there, Dina. That was, that's, that's some like preparation and hard work to get that stuff. That's a second of all. Yeah. That's good, man. We do want to do some more vids. Give us some feedback. Obviously, this was like the big Dean's event session. Yeah. We'll probably do like forwards, mids, defenders, tying some rocks in there somehow. We'll see how the combine goes. Maybe I'll do a mock like in the last week, because I don't like doing mocks from now. I don't know where the picks are going to be. Like, I don't have the mental energy and time to do that. Yeah. Mocks are hard because you just don't know what clubs are thinking, like, what trades. Yeah. We'll try to do that the week of the draft, maybe. We'll release that, but in the meantime, I'll maybe we'll get a bit more detailed about the rankings, maybe after the combine as well. But only if you guys like it, so let us know. Yeah, true, true. Well, anyway, thank you guys for listening. And yeah, like, actually, you know, I might as well shout out the main pod, yeah, main pod, a weekly, weekly pod, you know, talking about the games, you know, we'll talk about, you know, other random stuff, you know, we talk a bit of shit between us boys. So we have a lot of fun. Yeah. I'll see you guys on the next episode, I guess. See you next week. Murphy, read number one, baby. Let's just. Yeah.