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Big D Energy | Friday, September 20th, 2024
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Welcome to big D energy. Yo, yo, yo, what's going on, buddy? Welcome back to another episode of Big D Energy, right here on the Woodward Sports Network. Neil Rule, flannel salmon. It's a Friday, everybody. Oh, yes. And you know what else is great about this Friday? The Minnesota twins shit their pants and extra innings again. You just hate to see it. No, you don't. Oh, I love to see it, but I knew too, especially when it was dumbass hats on that they had the other day. I thought they were Marlin's hats. You know what else I love about this? OK, G's in the building as we know it. What's really good? Oh, you know what's really good? It's bourbon. It's bourbon Friday, everybody. That is correct. And a shout out to New Holland, the official sponsor of the Lions pregame show here on Woodward Sports. They sent over some of their New Holland Dragons milk origin. Wow. They went high level. It's good shit. So boys, cheers to you all. Cheers. My gosh. That's right. Spencer Raxter in the building, not participating in bourbon Friday. There are reasons. Second straight. Yeah. No, I participated last time. Oh, I wasn't here that week. Yeah, I got after a little bit last night. So I've decided to not partake. Hey, but you made it in, man. Made it in. If you would have bet against them going and coming to work, you would have lost. Now as you take the favor, always do. No, no, no, no. It produced a big swing trade opportunity. Remember, I got in at the beginning at 40 to 1. You remember by the time the show was over? Yeah. Spencer Raxter, it was about eight to one tend to. Yeah, yeah. So what I did is I had 40 to one. I hedged with the minus 2,000 on the other end, and I made my money. That's how I operate. All right. Betting sports, dude, I don't understand how anyone just bets a game anymore. Yeah, you can't. Live betting is the way for swing trade, man. Just like the stock market. Just treat it as literally the stock market. Yeah. Sports betting. Yep. I guess the big question is, Spenny, did watching Jacobi Brissette play quarterback make you drink more? Honestly, it did a little bit. It was pretty embarrassing. Like, I mean-- I'm glad you brought that. I don't know if the Jets defense is just back, or Jacobi Brissette just sucks, but-- Both. Yeah. That was a pretty tough performance. OK. We got a ton to get to. We have a Lions Cardinals nickel package. We have a Tigers nickel package. Hey. We have a Michigan nickel package. Hey. We have a Michigan State nickel package. Ooh. We have a sports business nickel package. We have a ton of stuff to get to. It is bourbon Friday as well. Let me start with that, then. The Jets game last night, because I just want to address this. You know the networks. And when I was in Planet Fitness, and we're live at the Planet Fitness Studios on the treadmill. All morning. Just glazing air. They could. They were shred. Her last night was so annoying. Dude. Just a perfect pass. He's so handsome. I could-- They played the Patriots. I know. The Chiefs defense is good. It's the Patriots. They are good, but it's the Patriots. What are we talking about? And I didn't put this in the sports business nickel package, because I figured I would address it in the open. Yeah. The Jets are on prime time. Six are the first 12 prime time games. I'm not. I can't-- It's a lot excessive. Flannel. I'm telling you guys, the good people jumping to the networks, sports chat threads, subscribe to the channel and jump in there. I'm not going to make it. There's two things I can't make it. The election season and Aaron Rodgers season. And they're both the same to me. It's both the show. It's both the creation. I can't take it anymore, Flannel. The Aaron Rodgers thing. And it's only happened what we're about 12 hours in, right? Yep. Since he finally played a great game against those mighty Patriots. Flannel, by the end of this, in a month when we do this show, four Fridays from now or three Fridays from now, I'm going to erupt on you about Aaron Rodgers. I am. Be ready. Be prepared. But what if he's back? Man. I'm just saying that was a hell of a game he played last night. You can't deny it. Get the fuck out of here. You mean to play well, you thought that he would get injured in the first 10 plays of the game. He looked actually pretty nimble out there, too. A couple throws on the run. It's made some-- got some first downs with his legs. I'm just saying. When they play a real team, then I'll give them some credit. But right now, it's the Patriots. Yeah, it is the Patriots. All right. Two and all Patriots going to that game? Man. Well, they were 1-in-1. They lost the Seahawks. But it's still-- I get it. They had one win. Right. They scored three points. Jacobi Bursett led Patriots team, by the way. Yeah, come on. Come on. All right. The other thing. D. Shaquille Oatmeal in the chat. Jump in there, get your thoughts in there. Neil and Flannel about to glaze Otani. No, D. Shaquille Oatmeal. I'm actually going the other direction. I love Otani as much as anybody else. But the networks with this is the greatest season ever had, people just going to pretend like Barry Bonds didn't exist. Well, you know what? That triggers you. If that triggers you, go to baseball reference and look at the numbers. Remind yourself, because I think people have forgotten, Flannel, the greatest seasons in the history of baseball. And if you want to talk about the 50/50, then bring up the fact that Barry Bonds is 500/500. No one else in the history of the game is even 300/300 except for one player, his dad. If you want to talk about-- because I agree, this season is not the greatest season in MLB history. And I am the biggest show Hayo Tani Slappy there is. I think he's going to go down as the best there ever was. And when he's hitting and pitching, he is the best I've ever seen. But this isn't even show Hayo Tani's best season. Last year, when he had his career high at OPS and was 10 and 5 and with a 3.14 ERA on the mound, that show Hayo Tani at his absolute apex. That's the best baseball player who's ever lived. Unfortunately, when you are only available to hit, you can have a season like this, and it's amazing, one of the best I've ever seen. But when you look back at some of those Barry Bonds seasons, some of those-- It's staggering. Yeah, Barry Bonds, he had a four-year stretch from 0.1 to 0.4 where he had an over-- When you see it imprint, it makes you uncomfortable. You're like, this can't be real. Barry Bonds was like an average of like a 2.50 OPS plus guy for four years in a row. And which is basically double what Riley Greene is this year. Like, think about that for a minute. Riley Greene's a deserving all-star, too. Yeah. But Neil, he was on the juice. I know, I know. Well, see, here's the difference. He didn't get suspended for it. Let alone twice in a season. So if you want to deny that, then we can just deny the-- you guys must deny the Barry Bonds thing, too, right? Yeah. Well, you know they do, you know. I know. But anyway, Steve O. Neil, if Jared Goff played well against a weak team, you would be praising him. No, I wouldn't. The stakes have changed. That's what you do against weak teams. However, Steven David, Rogers didn't throw the ball longer than 10 yards. More on that later than a phone nickel package. Mm, it's Benny. Look out. Look out? Absolutely. So, uh, there is. Neil got the Hayes social hat on. I do catch my man Spencer Raxter for the watch party. Live. Live. Sunday. Sunday. Check it out. Come roll on out to Hayes social. Food. Get out there. Food. Fures. Shiroki. Shiroki. I'm pulling up to the second quarter. 1,800. I was doing shots at 1,800 last night. Longer drink. You pour so. Yeah. Spenny's going to buy your first drink. Yep. Boom. Post Game Show, stick in Anson. We're doing it better than anyone. Um, Anakin, Pat's were doomed from the start. Uh, Cubay, or Cubald, he looks like an old man out there. That's because he is an old man out there. Jay Thomas, let's put old Tiny on Roy's. Yeah. Well, that would be if you did that. Jesus Christ. And Todd Sane, look, we'll move on from it here. Todd Sane says it best. Bonds was intentionally walked with the bases loaded. Nuff said that's my way. They should have stopped the game and put him in the hall of fame at that moment. Yeah. And he should be in the hall of fame for the hall of fame? Yes. Yes. But you know what I think? Owning a rental property sounds like a dream. Collect a rent and relax. That is until you realize how much work goes into getting it ready. First, you need to conduct market research to understand local rental trends and determine a competitive rent price. Then there's cleaning, staging, repairs, and hiring a professional photographer. 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You know how the Mariners were like a game behind? Yeah. They're playing the Yankees. I don't know if you guys caught this because it happened at like 1 AM. The Julio Rodriguez thing? Where the bat slips out of the guy's hands. There's a guy on third in the 10th inning. Bottom of the 10th inning manners are down 2 to 1. They have a guy on third with one out, which is standard in extra innings. The bat slips out of the batter's hands, goes directly down the third baseline. The runner on third ducks out of the way towards the dugout to get out of the way of the bat. Yeah. But the catcher caught the ball. He fires it down to third. He's out. Like, come on, Flynn. Wow. But it kind of is a microcosm of Julio Rodriguez's face planning regression this year. And Seattle's offense has been terrible. I mean, look at Julio Rodriguez. His OPS this season is 7-0-8. In this first two, his last season, it was 8-18 in the year before it was 8-53. So if you want to talk about the Seattle Mariners and correlation between them making the playoffs last year and not doing it this year, it's Julio Rodriguez's regression. He was looked like an up and coming star. And this year, he has not played as such. And I understand that that base running gaff wasn't all his fault. But I think he forgot. I got to get back on third. It wasn't a foul. Because it's a once-in-a-lifetime play. Like, you know what I'm saying? All right, so we got to that. There's something else. We got a lot to cook through here, Spenny, in the open. I got a DM on Instagram, Spenny, because people knew that Sam Flannel was coming on the show today. Oh, I can't wait for this. And why? Ariseed. So anyway, so get a DM on Instagram. Came from Jacob Small, loyal viewer. This Tiger team's unbelievable. I can't explain any of what's going on with this and how they're winning these games. If they make the playoffs, both AJ Hinch and Chris Fedder should get awards. Can't wait to tune into Woodward the rest of the baseball season, see how the Tigers finish off the year. Also, can't wait to see you hold Sam Flannel accountable for calling for AJ Hinch to be fired. I tried to tell you something. Almost as bad as his J-Mo is a bus take. So Flannel, since we're here, and Jacob Small is a constituent of Woodward Sports, he wants to see you be held accountable by me. So I'm curious to get your thoughts on the fact that you said you wanted AJ Hinch fired, which you did, which was laughable then. Yeah. Probably just as much as this is a struggle now. I wasn't as laughable then, but it's turned out to be laughable. It's turned out to be laughable. I will admit it. It is turned out to be laughable. What's the way-- So Flannel, who was right in that whole AJ Hinch discussion? Me or you? I think a lot closer to you. But I think you go a little bit too far. Just a little bit too far. He took 1 and 1/2 pitchers, and it's going to get him in the playoffs. But it's not 1 and 1/2 pitchers. We talked about how Cader Montero has a better ERA after the All-Star break than Corbin Burns. He's a second pitcher. He is. Whether you like it or not, he is starter number two. He's not a half a starter. You've seen what he's done in the last two games. 14 innings, zero earned runs. Put some respect on Cader Montero's name. He's not a half a starter. One of three quarters pitchers. Two pitchers. Two starters. That's still a close starter. OK, I'll give it to you. Two starters. I understand. I understand. And excellent bullpen management. Absolutely. And that's not Federer. I know somebody hit me with that. Well, the bullpen's because of Federer. No, the management is because of AJ Hintz. It's his show. He's the manager. He makes the calls. The management of the bullpen is Hinch. The fact that all of these guys like the Thai maddens and the Brant herders and the Sean Gunthers and the Brennan Hanafees, the Cader Monteros even have come up to the Tigers and been better statistically in the majors than they were with AAA Toledo this year. That's Chris Federer. It's a combination, and they both have done an excellent job. I'm not going to deny that. The bullpen and the way that they've been pitching, the way that they've gotten through games with guys like Holton and Bo Brisky and Brennan Hanafi opening, absolutely unbelievable. But it does help to manage the bullpen when you've got Tyler Holton with a 0.38 ERA since June 29. That's real, by the way. Tyler Holton, third in the Cy Young race. Scooble, Class A, Holton. I said it on Wake Up Woodward. I'll say it again. Stephen David. Nobody surprised that Flannel had a terrible take. All right, fine. I tried to talk him off to Liz. You're on Mark M. Admit it was completely stupid. Even when they were struggling. It's turned out to be stupid, yes. Because I think your big gripe at the time was the fact that Kerry Carpenter wasn't getting the at-bats or he got subbed out and didn't have. He was being put in every day. Well, Kerry Carpenter at the time was hurt. My thing was more with the Carson Kelly not hitting enough. The guy's like Andy Abanias. But you saw McKinstry. You saw the-- but it's neither here nor there. He hasn't been perfect. We can say that. But at the same time, that was a little aggressive. Especially when early in the season, a lot of our early dubs came from AJ Hinch's decision. That's fair. All right, real quick, because I'm going to try to stay on the clock for this show today. I'm going to try really hard. I know it's break time. It's not going. Real quick, Flannel, give me 20 seconds. Joellen Bead in the Sixers agree to a max extension, worth $301 million for Joellen Bead, your thoughts. My thoughts are-- All that to be mid, right? Well, he's not mid. He's just not-- Well, his team's very mid. Well, he's not available enough. And he's one of the worst playoff underachievers in terms of star players ever. It's factual. The numbers literally play out that way. When have I ever said anything otherwise? I've never said anything otherwise. I criticize him, and I get pushed back. You're a hater. Yeah, I'm a hater. You do it, and it's, well, it's fair to criticize him. Of course it is. But when I do it, it's not. But at the same time-- But when I do it, it's not. It's all, Neil. I mean, you could make an argument that MB deserved that regular season MVP over Yolkich. You say it was a heist. I said it was a heist. It wasn't a heist. The only thing missing was a bandana over the nose and mouth, a cowboy hat, and a stage coat. That was the only thing that was missing. It's a regular season award. And Joellen Bead, when healthy on a per-game basis-- And that was a railroad robbery. Fine, is a top three to five player in the NBA. He's just not healthy enough, and in the playoffs, he is certainly not that top three to five player. He should have taken a six-shooter into the NBA offices when he got that award. All right, all right, I mean, according to Neil Ruhle, he's probably not even a Hall of Famer. You just hate that, man. He is a Hall of Famer, by the way. Hold on, Brandy Cass in the chat. Embiid is the best player in the NBA. OK, that's a dumb take, bro. Be on the right side of history there, Flair. All right, OK, that's a dumb take, bro. All right, and the regular season on a per-game basis, he's top three to five on that special one. I assume I'm probably going to need to smoke at the end of this show, but I'm not going to. How would you like $10 for free products from Disability Spensery? Screenshot this image with the QR code and bring it into any disposable location, and you'll get a free $10 to spend in store, with a minimum purchase of $25. Visit Disability Spensery today, or DispoShops.com. 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Freddy Felt, I'm waiting to cop my J-M-O is slow shirt. We did a, I don't know if you caught that on the show the other day. We did a kind of a troll merch. - Yeah, a troll merch. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stick after wake up Woodward, he came into the studio and kind of previewed what he was about to do. Those are pretty funny. - Yeah, absolutely. - Ben Wallace is in a Hall of Famer, make a shirt. - There we go. Put my face on it. I don't care. Put me with like the sleeveless flight a lot, and I don't care. I'll own it. - That is pretty dope. All right, you guys, got a football obviously today, but we got a Tigers nickel package that we'll get to in the second hour as well. Spenny, you ready, man? I know, I know you're moving a little slow today. - I'm ready. You ready? - Oh yeah. - Geared up. - Locked in. - Locked loaded. - Dialed in. - All right, let's go. Nickel package, Lions V card. You know the Lions play a football game this weekend? - Lions do. You'd never guess it, but they do. They're going to the desert to take on the Arizona Cardinals. First question. Who leads the Lions in receiving yards this Sunday? - I'm going, I'm going back to the well of Jamison Williams. - Jam off. - Yeah. - It's a, it's a pattern now. - Yeah. - You know what I'm saying? They are, they are going to get the ball in his direction deep down the field at least two times a game, Flannel. And if he catches one, he's got a great shot. - That's fair, but I also think that this is a game where the Lions will attempt to work the middle of the field more. You saw a couple of plays. Shout out easy, by the way, for breaking down this film of where Sam Laporta was open in the middle and Jared Goff didn't hit him a couple times. I'm in Ross St. Brown on one. Kaleef Raymond on another. My point is that I think it's going to be I'm in Ross St. Brown because nothing shocks you back into doing what you do best more. Like losing a game you shouldn't lose. And I think the middle of the field will be open. I don't fear the Cardinals defense as much as I did the Bucks defense, for example. So I'm in Ross St. Brown big day, another 100 yards. - I, I agree with Flannel. - All right, next question of the Lions nickel package. Over under 49 and a half rushing yards for James Connor. - And by the way, these over unders are not sports books. These are mine. - It's a flannel sports book, not scissors. - I think we've gotten to the point with the Lions defense where just insert a running backs name, give me a total and I'll take the under. And I'm going to cash eight out of the 10 times. - Under. - You know what I'm saying? Like, and look, I think James Connor is criminally underrated in NFL circles. - Yeah, yeah. - I do, for real. I have a lot of respect for him. I think he's a very, very good player. But, Spenny and I, when we were at the game, this was the first half too. So we hadn't really drank everything we were going to drink. But you remember Spenny, we were having the DJ reader discussion. - Yeah. - And sitting there and being close to it, you watch it and Spenny remember like, we're like, that is different up there. That is a different man. There were Terry Foster, S comments about the size of his ass, like everything. Everything was in play. - Damn, that's a big ass. - It's just-- - Long voice. - I'm telling you. - Shout out, Long voice. - And it's not a stunner. I'm telling you, man, nobody will hit their over rushing totals. Nobody. They have cut off the run game flannel. - Yep, the only running back in the last two years that has really gone off, and I don't even consider this going off, was Christian McCaffrey in the NFC Championship game. Other than that, it doesn't matter who you are, whether you're Kenneth Walker, whether you're Bijon, whether you're Aaron Jones, whether you're Pacheco. - Kyron Williams. - Whether you're Kyron Williams. You're going to have a rough day. And it's going to be the same for James Connor, under. - In the chat, Greasy Squirrel, spendies at work, Neil's 40 to one, did not hit. - True. - Greasy Squirrel, it did. I just went through the whole live betting swing trade. - Yeah. - 'Cause remember, there was not as much confidence at the end of the show. - I was always confident. - Well, you were. - I was too. - I was with you, yeah. - But the markets were wavering a little bit. Remember, it got down to 20 to one. - Yeah. - 'Cause you heard he was going to be doing a little bit of drinking. - They got down to 10. - No, no, no different. - Yeah. - No, it was like market clothes, where there was this wild swing, and when it did, I took Spenny to show up to work, minus 20,000. - If I showed up on Monday this week, then I was definitely showing up today. - Yeah. - I know, but that just, it goes to show you, you don't have, your team doesn't have to win to win money betting on it. - That's true. - Market conditions have to change. All right, third down. - All right, third down, third question. Of the Lions, Bickle Package. Does Jared Goff have his first zero interception game of the season this Sunday? - Yeah, more on that a little bit later on in the NFL, Mickle Package, by the way. - I think so. - Just drawing your swords for no reason. - He has three turnovers in two games. I think it's imperative for him. - I know, and it reminds me of another quarterback in this league, but we'll talk about that later. - But yeah, I've always drawn your swords for no reason. There was no hate when it comes this, because my answer is yes. He will have his first zero interception game of the season, because I think both Jared Goff and Ben Johnson really studied the film hard this week, and they're going to clean up the mistakes that they've made. Ben Johnson didn't have his best day. He called too many passes. Jared Goff made some bad decisions, and they are going to clean it up, because as I said before, the Arizona Cardinals, I'm not disrespecting them completely, but their defensive line, I think, is one of the weakest those Lions will see, and their injured Bijo Ojulari, Darius Robinson, their line-backing core. Dennis Gardeck is probably their best linebacker, or Mack Wilson, but Dennis Gardeck's more of a pass rusher. And in the secondary, all I really am scared of is Buddha Baker. Big day for Jared Goff in this offense, and they get it back together. Zero interception game for Jared Goff. - Yeah, I mean, it's due, right? - Yes, yes. - So the data we have on his career suggests that there is a zero interception day loading. He is not frivolous with the football. I think that's proven out during the course of his career. So yeah, it stands to reason that there's going to be a correction, you know, a rubber aggression to the mean, I guess you could say. So yeah, I stand there with you on that. - Yeah, I'm with you on that, fourth down. - All right, next question of the Lions nickel package. How were it should Lions fans be about Kyle or Murray to Marvin Harrison, Jr.? - I guess, can I ask, can I answer a question with asking a question for real? And I'm not picking on anybody. Where are we with the Terrian Arnold thing? Like one to 10. - I think he's done. - It hasn't been a 10. - I think he, yeah, but it hasn't been a nine. - Overall, he's done great. - Like the kind of, - Okay. - The flags that he's occurred so far, a couple of them have been petty, but overall, I thought he's been great in coverage. - That's the league, man. - Yeah, exactly. - You know what I'm saying? - He needs to learn it. - And that's where it is because the mistake he did, and look, guys, I'm not killing Terrian Arnold here. I'm not. I'm actually, I like what I've seen. So I believe we've already cleared the first hurdle with Terrian Arnold. - His coverage is there. - Like, he's good. - Yes. - Yes, he's good. - Yes, like, he's, the first hurdle. He's not Jeff Okuda. - Right. - We cleared that hurdle, I think, in the preseason. So there's levels to this, as the kids say. So like, I'm happy with it overall. That being said, the flag in the Buccaneers game was a points play that was essentially the same as getting burned for 40% of a touchdown. It was, 'cause it directly led to three points. No matter how you slice it, flannel, it did. And those are the mistakes that can't happen again. And, guys, everybody calm down. He's good. I said this. The Terrian Arnold that is here on September 7th will not be the Terrian Arnold, October 7th, will not be November 7th, December 7th, January 7th, et cetera. I'm cutting him slack, everybody. With that being said, I think the basic form of this question is, if you're cool with Terrian Arnold, then you're cool with this matchup, Marie, to Marvin Harrison Jr. See, I think you can be cool with one, but worried about the other. Because I think Marvin Harrison Jr. personally is gonna have a Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Puka-Nukula, like rookie season. He's gonna absolutely dominate. And also, there was a play in the Rams game in which Kyler Murray just basically turned into a magician. I broke down the film on Wake Up Woodward yesterday where he rolled to his left, just escaped. Byron Young was bearing down on him. And then Kyler Murray just threw one to a wide open Marvin Harrison Jr. who had gotten behind the defense. And my point with that is that Terrian Arnold, you can like him, you can be pleased with how he's looked in the first couple of weeks. If Kyler Murray's working that cat kind of magic, he can't stick with Marvin Harrison Jr. for that long. Carlton Davis can't stick with Marvin Harrison Jr. for that long. Amique Robertson, although it's probably not gonna be the matchup, he can't stick with Marvin Harrison Jr. that long. So, I think it's all about containing Kyler Murray and not let him kill you with his scrambling ability. Cat's bot actually brings up one of his rare good points. You're playing Kyler Murray at the wrong time, which they are. You wanna be playing him in the second half. - Yeah, you wanna play him in Call of Duty. - You want him to be eight and one. - Yeah. - And then they just fall off the table, which which they always-- - Call of Duty comes out. - What, October, right? - Yup, October, November, every year. - Yeah, so. - And it's gonna be a doozy this year. - Oh, Black Ops 6? - Yeah, new Black Ops looks sweet. - No, but I mean, for real, like, I do believe in Kyler Murray. - Sure. - He was somebody I had on my radar for, like, for fantasy football and the draft didn't work out that way for me to get him, but I do think that he was thrown in the dumpster too quickly. - Yeah, 100%. - I do think that. And if I were walking by and I saw that in the dumpster, I'd be like, "Oh, that would fit well in my home." - Absolutely. - And you take it home, you clean it up a little bit, and there you go. You rock it out. - He's a straight. - Yeah. - He's a straight, yeah. Kyler Murray was a straight quarterback. You left some milk on the porch. - Yeah. - You know, he came back a couple of times, you brought him into the house, you took him to the vet, got him his shots and everything. - Yeah. - Next thing you know, he's in your home. - But that's the thing. How was he ever a stray? People are acting like he had a Sam Darnold Daniel Jones start to his career. The only-- - I know, that's the way this works. - I know. - I know. - All right, all right. - But the point is, is that Kyler Murray's good. And there are ways in which he can hurt the Lions. Hopefully he does it, but the Lions better be on alert. - I just got a video from DMACC. Oh. - You wanna play it out of the next break? - Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna have to listen to it first. - Yeah. - Right. - This is to make sure. - Okay, that's cool. All right, fifth down. We'll ride out. Stay on the clock. Here we go. Quick one. - All right, fifth down. Oh yeah, it's good. It's about Mo and Raymond. - Nice. - All right. Next. (laughing) You let me know. - Right. - I've gotten some grit. - You literally could get anything. - I've gotten some very good DMACC videos before. So I had to make sure-- - Shout out DMACC. - All right, final question of the nickel package of the Lions and Cardinals. Over under 34 and a half of rushing attempts by the Lions on Sunday. - Over. - I don't be over. - Over, Neil. Come on. - That's gonna depend on game flow. - They have a weak, like defensive line. They have to get back to running the ball. - I understand that, but you know how this works. See, this is where nuance comes in and Flannel's not gonna like this, but this is how the real world works. You come in, the Cardinals get the ball first. They score first. You punt in your drive. You don't put any points on the board or a field goal or whatever. They come down and they score again. - What, that's different. - Guess what? - That's different. - Well, that's, these things happen in the NFL. - That's true. - All around the league, every single Thursday, sometimes Friday, sometimes Saturday, Monday Tuesday. It happens, man. - But they lost last week because they got out of their identity. That is their identity is running the ball. So they have to stick to it this week. They do. - And that's fair. If the game flow is where they score first, then yeah, they'll shoot past that. But I don't think it's a lock you guys do. - Well, I think it's a lock. I don't care if it's a two score game or a one score game or the Lions are losing. Not a three score game, but the other three scenarios apply. The Lions need to keep running the football because when they've done it this year, there's still a top 10 rushing offense in terms of yards per game and still top 10 in yards per carry per game. 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That is standard of every single deal. Look at every deal in the NHL. When guys come off their rookie deals, they're all eight for 64. - Yeah, I know all of them. Those are just people that don't watch hockey, I guess because yeah, that's what you have to do. - Yeah. - And those are fantastic deals for the level of players. I would, the Mo deal is better than the Raymond deal. For me, if I'm an owner, like if I'm the team. - Raymond's gonna score 40 goals this year. - Then I change my mind, if he does that. I reserve the right to change my mind. And I say about the Cider deal, you know what I bet the hold up was? - What's up? - I bet the hold up was he wanted to go seven, they wanted to go eight because if he's a Norris winning defenseman every year earlier, he can get to free agency. - He's a huge pay bomb, absolutely. - He's a double digit. - It's a huge pay bomb, so my guess would be the team was like, if you want to do this, we're giving you, they did or tried to do with them, what I want the Tigers to do with Riley Greene, what I wanted the Tigers to do with Riley Greene last off season into this off season. - What they do with Colt Keith? - Yeah, I want him to do that, but do it Riley Greene adjacent. - Yeah. - 'Cause it's what the Braves did with Ronald Acuna. - Yeah. - You know, I forget what, eight for 120 million or something like that, which is an F in, but they did it when he was like 20. - Yeah. - You know? - Oh, he's MVP. - Yeah, right. - So that's, I want the Tigers to do something like that. I would guess that would be the battle with Cider's people were like, we want to go shorter, the wings are like, we want to go longer. And that was the hold up, but in the end, they got it done, they're locked, they're loaded. Nothing new, like people ask me, they're like, why aren't you talking about this? 'Cause what's understood doesn't need to be explained. - Yeah. - You know, like, and it's bourbon Friday. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's an NFL package, right? - NFL Nickel package. - Hold on, someone asked, Steve O'Baby, Neil, what time's the Michigan State Nickel package? We're aiming to about 12, 12, 12, 15. All right, NFL Nickel. - All right, NFL Nickel package, first question of the NFL Nickel package in honor of flannel Sam's Lions package questions. Does Patrick Mahomes have his first zero interception game of the season this week? And is it the week he improves on his one-to-one touchdown to interception ratio? - Who do they play? - Why do, I have to ask the question before I answer, why do people like you and Stick draw your swords so quickly when it comes to Jared Gough? - What do you mean? - I see what you're doing. - I'm just doing the same question about it a quarterback in the exact same spot. - What's Jared Gough's touch on the interception ratio this year? - I don't remember off the top of my head. - Say. - The one to one. - One. - One to three. - Three. - Okay. - It's not the same. And Patrick Mahomes is the only quarterback in the NFL. - No, I know his resume. - No, I get it, but he's actually above reproach. Patrick Mahomes- - Well, there's other questions about Mahomes later on in the Nickel pack. - Well, there shouldn't be. I'll tell you what, Patrick Mahomes, if he retired today or if he decided the next three or four years to be- - No, like, no, this is a relevant NFL story. If it's relevant with Gough, then it's relevant with Mahomes. - Because they're not on the same exit of the highway. Like, Patrick Mahomes is- - No, but this season's in a vacuum final. - But it's not when you're Patrick Mahomes and the chief. - No, it is. - It's not. - Because nothing else matters. - Oh, oh. - You mean three, nothing else matters. - Nothing else matters. - She's going to say I'm hot. - Uh-oh. - Those Super Bowls do not help him this year. - You're going to get Sam hot. - They don't help him. - But they give him- - So you admit they don't help him. - They are in a vacuum. - They give him the ultimate credit line though. - Sure. - He could be Daniel Jones, the next four seasons and retirees. - Sure. - The greatest one in history. - The fact that the question is the exact same question. - No, it's not because he has a one-to-one instead of a one-to-three. - And the Kansas City Chiefs, even though Patrick Mahomes was outplayed by Joe Burrow and I will admit that- - Oh, you mean a hundred fifty-five yards and two six? - Yeah, the Chiefs are two and all though. - So the Chiefs overcame Mahomes and still won. - In that game they did. - Okay. - But how many games has Mahomes put them on their back and been Superman? Millions. - There we go, there we go. - Millions, and billions, and billions. - And billions, and billions. - This year. - Okay, fine, fine. - He's been average. - And Jared Goff's been terrible. - Good job, Sam. - But he's been the exact same, right? - No, he hasn't. - They're both one-in-one, that's what you keep coming back. - Kansas City Chiefs are two and all. - One-in-one. - The Kansas City Chiefs are two and all, the Lions are one-in-one. - Patrick Mahomes three and three, Jared Goff one-in-three, in terms of touchdown. - Okay, so we're gonna hide behind some little minute detail. But Patrick Mahomes just three times a quarter back, Goff is, right? - So his number should be three times better. - He's ten times the quarterback, anybody is. The gap between him and the second best player in his position is higher than in any sport and any position anywhere. Patrick Mahomes is the one. He's the only one. - All right, well, getting back to the question, is this the week that he improves on that? - Absolutely, 'cause he's Patrick Mahomes. That's the only answer you need. - Who do they play this week? - Atlanta. - Sunday night on the road. Mahomes hasn't been very good in domes on the road. - Yeah, just in the cold. - I don't know, I don't know. - All right. - JP 17, take another drink flannel. - Actually, thank you. - Mike Bell, please, no nuclear Sam today. - Sam, I'm proud of you. You held your shit. - Thank you. - Shad 216, Patrick Mahomes had seven interceptions called, 17 interceptions called back because of defensive penalties. - Jesus. - Sounds like a turnover machine if it's not for the rest, right? - Jesus Christ, Sean. - Well, a good friend of mine who sat in that chair on Monday and who joins me on the Lions pregame show 10 to noon this Sunday. - Shut up. - As a quote, "The great Sean Belizean facts are mean." All right, second down. - Second down. - Touch on his eight picks in the playoffs. - Well, yeah, especially when 17 of them get taken back. - All right, here we go. - That's 41-8. - Here we go. - Best ever. - When you're paying the refs, you know, that's what's gonna happen. - Hey, you know that play in the Cincinnati game? Remember the play before on "Third Down" when they converted and it was called back by a penalty? - Nope. - Don't do it, Sam. - Bagels fans are pussies. They are the, they are, then-- - Now that all agree with you. - Now that all agree with you. - Bagels fans are absolute pussies. - That is not as much as their owner. - And their mayor. - And not as much as-- - He's better. - We're mayor. - We're, we've messa-clock up. I've accepted that real quick on the bangles thing. - And they hate gorillas. - They do hate gorillas. - You know what the holdup is on the Jamar Chase contract right now? - What is it? - The signing bonus because the owner, because you guys know when they do a mega signing bonus that becomes guaranteed money, they don't, they don't pay all of that up because, you know, there's, uh, there's roster bonuses that apply to it and stuff like that. The owner is responsible to put that in an escrow account. We talked about the cash over cap thing. When you have a hundred million dollar signing bonus, as soon as that contract signed, the owner has to scratch a hundred million dollar check and put it into an escrow account. It has to be done. That's the holdup. The owner does not wanna scratch a hundred million dollar check and put it in escrow. - Of course not. - And that's the thing. Would we all agree that the bangles, they're effed without Jamar Chase? - Yes. - Yes. - No, they have Joe Burrow. You love 'em, but you love 'em. Joe Burrow is the third best quarterback in the NFL. - If he has no one to throw to him. - Everybody's got weapons. - Everybody needs one to throw to him. - I got a question for you. - Yes. - Herbrand and Katz. - Yes. - Says that's a dumb take by Sam. Herber and Allen playing with Reid in KC system would be just as good as Mahomes. - You can't... - Is Justin Herbert the same level of quarterback as Patrick Mahomes? - No, no. Because what was, what did Donovan McNabb and Alex Smith do with Andy Reid? I'm just saying, he, Andy Reid needed his - I've done him a nab onto a Super Bowl. - Donovan McNabb didn't win anything, win a Super Bowl, and Alex Smith didn't even win a playoff game. With Patrick Mahomes, that was the quarterback that Andy Reid system needed to take it to the top and be a dominant dynasty. 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The only QB in the NFL to throw over 250 plus yards in both games this year is Gardener men's shoot. - Wow. - Is this new game manager era for NFL QBs? - I think Patrick Mahomes has become a game manager. - I mean, he kind of was last year, yeah. - He just completes green passes and dump offs, and that's what he is now. - If it worked. - Just try to not turn the ball over as much, and I think he'll be okay for that one. - But that's kind of my point about NFL teams. First of all, I don't think with the lack of practice time and maybe the lack of preseason, teams come in a little bit rusty. But to me, it's also about in this modern age of the NFL, teams are petrified of committing turnovers. Neil, you remember a day when throwing interceptions was the norm. I mean, when you look at the top 10 interception throwers of all time. - I know, yeah. Number one, never ever be broken. That record will never be broken. No one will ever throw as many interceptions as Brett Favre did. You have to throw 30 a year for a decade, and you're still two years away. I know, but never talks about that. - Yes. - He's the worst ever at it. - Yeah. - Ever, ever, ever. - Yes, ever. - But it was also, yeah. - And don't get me wrong, Brett Favre, especially later in his career, had some really rough seasons with Green Bay, but he also-- - He's really good with public money though. - Oh yeah, thanks. - Well, that's neither here nor there. You're not like, when you look at the top 10 interception throwers of all time, Brett Favre's number one, Franz Harkington's in, Johnny United's Dan Marino and Peyton Manning. Terry Bradshaw's career touched on the interception ratio is 212 to 210. Joe Namus is 173 to 220. You know what all of those players have in common? They're wearing a gold jacket in Canton, Ohio. Interceptions used to be something that was commonplace. They just happened. Teams pushed the ball down the field a little bit more. And the modern age of the NFL, I think it started with the advent of the West Coast offense and Bill Walsh and all of that and has spiraled into what it is now. Teams just are terrified of committing turnovers. - Todd Sane says, Mel Kuiper was talking about the too high safety and we brought it up. But it is true in this respect. You know what this game is now? This game has let them down the field and make them kick field goals. That's what this game is. Field goal is a new punt. - Yeah, it is. - That's it. That's what this game is. - Hold on to three. - If you can score touchdowns when you get in the red zone, that is the difference. That's the difference. It's changed, man. DNC ENT offenses are dead right now. Field goals way up through two weeks last year. There were 88 passing touchdowns. So two weeks this year, there were 67. All offenses are dead. More on that in a second. - More on that in a second. Next question of the NFL nickel package. Flannel's other boy, Justin Herbert, mispractice on Wednesday with an angel injury. - Man, doesn't even matter. Doesn't even matter for Jim Harbaugh? - No. - If he has a body that can hand the ball to J.K. Dobbins, and when he gets hurt, Gus Edwards, when he gets hurt the next guy, it doesn't matter. - You want to-- - We saw this when we did the draft show that day, and they took an offensive lineman. - They took Joel. - They took Joel. They already have slay. Like, you knew this was going to happen. Anyone that took Justin Herbert and Fantasy's an idiot. - Yeah, for-- - An idiot. - You want to talk about a game manager. - He's an elite. - It was never not going to be this. - Elite game manager. - But do you know what though? - I'm happy for Justin Herbert. He finally has the situation that some other quarterbacks have had for so many years. He doesn't have Brandon Staley or Anthony Lin anymore. He has Jim Harbaugh. He's got a running game. He's got a defense. He's got a team that's relatively healthy right now. This is, I don't mind that he's a game manager because he doesn't have to put on his Superman cape anymore like he's done so many times. They're going to make the playoffs. They're going to get in as a wildcard and they're going to win a playoff game. And I love it. You know what? I low-key think that Charger Steelers game is like the biggest game of the week. Now no one will tell you that 'cause Tom Brady's not calling it or anything like that. But whoever wins that game is in the playoffs. - Yes. - They're three and they are in the playoffs. Whoever wins that game is in no matter what. Now I won't watch it because I can't stand it. I can't stand to watch the Steelers and Jim Harbaugh and the NFL's Chargers. I can't take it and I won't take it. - Steelers are winning. Am I wrong to think if they play with fire trying to rely on JK Dobbins? 'Cause I mean just history shows. - But when he plays, he's great. - No, when he plays, he's great. - When he plays, he's elite. - But history shows he will go down at some point and you're kind of relying on it. - But they got Gus Edwards behind him. - I hear you. - You know what I'm saying? - I hear you. - And Gus Edwards, you can say what you want about Gus Edwards. Is he JK Dobbins from an explosion perspective? - No. - But you know what he is? - True. - 12 feet every time he runs a ball. - Well they received for a year. - They received for a year. - Yeah, they received it. - That's who's got to step up. - They don't, no they don't. - Okay. - No they don't. - Okay. - You asked, are the Chargers going to run it over 34 and a half times? They'll run it over a 134 and a half times. - And that's how JK Dobbins gets injured. - Hey, do you know who leads the Chargers in receiving yards right now? Quinton Johnston. - Look, he's coming. - Hey, he takes the step up. They'll be okay, but. - So far so good. - If he does it. So far so good. - Lorena Rios, Neil. That sounds like what big D Energy hosts do. Screen passes and dump-offs. - Well, I can only run the offense I'm given. - Oh! - He's shitting Lorena Rios right. - My hatred for Lorena Rios is like approaching yours at this point. - She sucks. By far, the worst person to ever be in the World Sports Chat. - That shot. - And we had known racists in the chat. - That is fake. - All right, that's a question. Lorena might be one. - No, we don't know. - We don't know. - We know she's a cyber ditty. - Yeah. - Number four. - Some sides are pointing that way. - All right. Question number four. Will Malik Willis win again in Tennessee? Revenge game. - Low key. I will be pissed if the Packers win again. - Hey, get ready for it. - And they're going to, and they're going to. I know they're going to. - Yeah. - I know they are. Just like I knew Aaron Rodgers was gonna have like, oh great game. Flannel, this is the, this is the week that's gonna anger me in the NFL. It is. Malik Willis and the Packers. - They are. - Gonna win. - Yeah. - Gonna win. - Unfortunately, be ready to be angry, because they're Green Bay Packers. They're running the football. They're the leading, I know it's just two games, but they're leading the NFL and rushing yards per game. And do you know what else they did last week? They intercepted Anthony Richardson three times. Will Levis? Ah. - Yeah. - Who actually thinks that Will Levis is going to have a turnover free game against the Packers, especially the Packers that just acquired Xavier McKinney in the offseason. So yeah, all Malik Willis has to do is not screw it up and the Packers will win. - Yeah. - But Packers win this one. - I said this a couple days ago for sure. - Will Levis 100% listen. Will Levis at times, he looks absolutely good back there behind center, but there is other times. - No, he's at a fellow debut actually. - No, no, no, but he makes good plays sometimes. And then there's other times where you look at him and he's like the slowest person you've ever seen. - If he loses to Malik Willis, he should be cut a medium. - Yeah. - Immediately. - But to Sam's point, he should trade for Bryce Young or do something. - To Sam's point, he will play great for a majority of the game and then there will come a time where he makes the dumbest play ever seen in your life. And they, the Packers will take advantage of that. - Xavier McKinney gets a pick six this week. - He's like Josh Allen without being good. - Yes. - Like, Josh. - Yes. - No, for real. For real, I watched all of that Chicago. - He's like a shitty Josh Allen. - Yeah. - I watched all of that Chicago game and I watched the other half of that game from last week. I was in Chicago, so it made sense. And plus the line is then played to a later class. So I had to do something, I had to do something. But no, Will Levis at times looks brilliant. I'm not gonna hold you. He looks brilliant at times. - You need to be more discriminating with your time. I just told you that low-key Steelers Chargers is the game of the week in the NFL. I will not watch a second. I'm not subjecting myself. - I hear you. - I hear you. - I need to be entertained. I want entertainment. DeMond Ice, Neil, be aware of your blood pressure with all that hate. No, I do enough cardio. I'm cool. - All right, next question of the NFL nickel package. - Last question of the NFL nickel package. - Hold on real quick, Todd Sane. Neil, remember, you watched Will Levis against Anthony Richardson. I did. - Yeah. - That's what will form me for the future. All right, sorry. - Yeah, but like watching Josh Allen, even young Josh Allen, like when he was a rookie, he would make the dumbest play you've ever seen in your entire life. And he still does, but he makes insanely spectacular plays on a regular basis. Will Levis just makes the dumb one. - Yeah. - For real. - For real. - That's an elite breakdown. - All right, next question, final question. The Bengals and Ravens are both 0 and 2. The math says they won't make it out of the play, or won't make it to the playoffs. Who's it gonna be? - It's gonna be the Bengals. - No, it's not. - 100% it's gonna be the Bengals. - Bengals finish the last on their division. - No. - Oh, so you think it's a Ravens? - Yes. - So you think the Ravens won't make it? - No, I think the Bengals won't make it. The Ravens will make it. - For real. One, the math says one of them aren't gonna make it, which one is it? - I would pick the Bengals in this situation. I just don't know about that Ravens offense, I don't. - Hey, the Ravens won't make it. And here's why. Because you can lose it before your season even really gets underway. They're both 0 and 2. And this is a schedule-- - If either of them lose this weekend, they did lose it before they even get-- - And this is a schedule thing. And this is the beauty of the whole first-place schedule versus last-place schedule thing. The Bengals, they have the commanders at home and then at Carolina in their next two. And then they play each other, but the Bengals get the Ravens at home. The Ravens play at Dallas this week and say what you want about Dallas. Dallas is desperate not to get embarrassed again at home. - 100%. - But the Ravens are also desperate. It's just a battle of two desperate teams. But even after that, the Ravens have home versus Buffalo and they have their matchup at Sincey on the road. I think after five games, Baltimore could be one and four and the Bengals could be three and two. Or it could be, it could be the inverse, but I think the Bengals have it more set up in front of them to write the ship than the Ravens do. It doesn't matter about how good the teams are. It's about scheduling. - Oh, I can't see the Ravens going down 0 and 3, though. - That's fair. I would probably pick them to beat Dallas, honestly. But it's gonna be a tough one. - But you know what I love about it? If Dallas loses their one and two. - Dallas is sucks too. - It is like low-key. It is like decision Sunday in the NFL. And no one talks about it because on paper you see 0 and 3 and you're like, oh, well, there's still 14 games to play. That's not the way it works. That's not the way it works. - Who used to be a deaf sentence in the NFL? - Catspot said that only six teams in the last 44 years have made the playoffs, starting at that number. - Yeah, it's hard. - It's because you play in division and if you lose in division, the other team won. - Yeah, the Bengals will be last in their division. - Something lunatic said that, you know, before the year started. - They look pretty good at it. - But did you see Joe Burrough's hair? - Yeah, it's true. - Hey, Joe Burrough had a good game, except for that bad fumble. - With a real Joe Burrough. - That was the one that decided the game fair. - Joe Burrough might need some insurance for it all. - Hey, but now more than ever, it's critical for you to have your insurance reviewed. Swiss insurance will make sure your carrier is not slipping in extra fees. 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You guys have made us one of the premier players in Detroit Sports Talk. - Yes, facts. - That's not my opinion, it's fact. You can go look at it if you want, but trust me when I say, 'cause we've had people run programs and all that kind of stuff. To me, and I'll share this real quick story before we get to the next nickel package. - When I signed on here, I was like, you know, I wonder how this will work out. Like, this is cool and everything. Like, I want to be here, I wonder how this will play out. Never in a million years did I think, when I signed on here three years ago, that it would become this. Never, I'll be in honest with you. Even with me here, I didn't think it would turn into this. - Even with me. - Is that tone? - Yeah, that's a little tone, a lot of it, yeah. - No, no, but seriously, guys, you guys, I didn't do this, DMACC didn't do this. Spenny, the heavyweights, morning, you know, the wake up Woodward show, the morning show, we didn't do it. The producers don't do it. The social media people don't do it. You do it. You guys do it. You guys are hyped for all the shows. You come in, this chat lights up, like a pinball machine, like for real, thank you guys. Cat spot, Lorena Rios, for real, for real. No, for AF, those guys, for real. No, for real. You guys are engaged, and I appreciate you guys, more than you know. This has been an incredible run, and the analytics, hey, it's only just begun. So thank you guys for that. These Shaquille Oatmeal. Pat McAfee wishes his show could be this good, Neil Rule. - Oh! - I'm sure he does. - No, thank you. - Like, pound for pound, like, stack it up. - Yeah? - Turn the show on. - Yeah? - Let me know what you think. Detroit's finest, guys, I live in Dallas, Texas. I've been listening to you guys for the past two years. I love this show. - Shout out. - I love you. - Thank you. - Love you too, man. - Yeah, no, absolutely. - I love everybody in the chat, except for Lorena Rios. - Hey, thanks. - FJ 1967, I'm here because of Neil. Well, I'm here because of you, FJ 1967, so thank you. Just a fan, Neil Rule, it's all you people. - You're right, you, you guys know. I love who's in that turn, man. - You people. - What do you mean you people? - Yeah, absolutely. So thank you guys. All right, Nickel Package Friday. - What's going on? - Don't talk like you're leaving. - I ain't going nowhere. - All right. - Enough, I'm leaving. - I'm leaving. - All right. - What are we on next? - We're going to Michigan. - Shall we flannel? - Let's do it. - Let's do the Michigan Nickel Package. - I can't wait. - Sam, keep your shit during this. - You already know. - No, I don't make this one. - I don't make this one. - Look at him. - I did like this one. - Flannel made this one. - Okay, it's good. - Yeah, it's not super biased. All right, first question. - First question. - No, I got your bet. Who leads Michigan in rushing this week? - Kaleid. - Can I step in? - Here we go. - Can I step in? - I bet you can. - He's got the Mike Morse commercials. He's on the cover of the video game. Surely, we're what, three games in? He's got to have what? 700 yards rushing by this point, right? Oh, he's got 70? Oh, sorry. - He's only got seven. - No, stop it. - He's got like 150. - Oh, come on. - He had 70 coming into last week, then he got 70 against Arkansas State. - That's actually fair. - Oh, thank you for correcting me. I walked you into correcting me, by the way. So thank you. Thank you for doing that. Clearly. (laughing) - Yup, I was waiting for you. All right. (laughing) - Leave guts alone, by the way. - Well, hey, you guys don't kick that. What are you guys going to do without the cheerleaders on there? - Hey, Mayor. - Gary Danielson. - Hey, relax. - That's all right. That's all right. - Ah, Donovan Edwards, ha ha. - The correct answer is Kalei Lols. - What? - Wait, what? - Oh my God. - Did they put him on the video game? - It's weak, Neil. - All right, we know what this horse commercial is. This guy right here, was one of the leading voices of Michigan fans, saying that Donovan Edwards had a terrible year last year. The National Championship game, be damned, even though that was nice, and he shouldn't have been on the cover of NCAA. It should have been Will Johnson. Anywho, I digress. It's got to be Kaleel Mollings. This is where you make an adjustment as the coaching staff. And this is where, if Michigan is going to win, and if they're going to write their season, they need to be the number one rushing team in the Big Ten, and Kaleel Mollings has to lead the way. And you know why he's going to lead the way, because he's better when he's on the field. Kaleel Mollings-- - But who's better on the video game cover? - Well, Donovan Edwards is the only one that's on the video game cover, but-- - Who's better in a Mike Morse commercial? - Well, Kaleel Mollings. - Kaleel Mollings. - Kaleel Mollings is Hassan Haskins. Hassan Haskins is Kaleel Mollings. Do you know how I know they're the same size, they have similar running styles, and they both started off as linebackers. Kaleel Mollings runs downhill, he has better vision, he's six-two-two-thirty, he's powerful, and he's got quicker feet than you think. Kaleel Mollings is going to lead this team and rushing both this game, and he's going to have a 12 or 1,300 yard season. - Wow, the best. - Absolutely. - Phil says Alex Orgy will lead the team in rushing. - Well, I don't see it, but he's going to get his yard. - This week, I would take that action. - Okay, okay. - I bet you get a nice price. - You could get a nice price for that, for sure. - Okay, I wouldn't hate it. He's a dynamic runner. - All right, next time. - He's also a big dumb idiot. All right, next question of the original. - That's what we're going to make. - Oh, we're under 24 and a half points allowed by Michigan to USC this week. - I think it's going to be under. - Yeah. - Here's the deal, and I was looking at the questions to see if this question came up later, which it doesn't. Here's the deal. I think that Michigan fans are approaching this like a funeral. Like that's the vibe I get. Ermani walked in this door yesterday after we got off the air. And all he was missing was the pastor collard. Like he was given last rights in here. He had a rosary tied around his hand. He was dishing out. Holy water to everybody that was here. Plano, when did USC become Georgia or Texas? - USC's back. - It's when you beat LSU. When you go on... - So what? - That's not a solo. You can't say that it's a solo. - LSU. - I understand that, but the narrative has always been when Big Ten teams, or even Pac-Pac 12 teams at the time face SEC teams that they crumble. - Are you taking credit as a Big Ten win over the SEC? - Oh, for sure. - Well yeah, of course, of course. - No, but anyway, though. - And it's not from that. It's more so from the fact that this offense is, we have nothing on offense so far. - Nothing. So I'm led to believe that all of a sudden, USC, who had Caleb Williams said everybody's so high on that's gonna take the Bears to the playoffs, that's gonna win Rookie of the Year. And he was fighting against the world on his own. - He was. - No defense out there. So-- - Owning a rental property sounds like a dream. Collect a rent and relax. That is until you realize how much work goes into getting it ready. - First, you need to conduct market research to understand local rental trends and determine a competitive rent price. 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And I think they're going to need him to make some plays with his arm. - I don't think they will. - Well, we'll see, we'll see. - They're going to go Jim Harbaugh at Penn State style on there. They're going to go army against Florida Atlantic. - They have to. - And they're going to do the nine minute drive. 14 plays, 80 yards. - Well, they should. - And they should, but like that didn't really work that well against Fresno State or Arkansas State. I don't know if it's going to work. - It didn't work against Arkansas State. - Not as well as it should. - They had over 300 rushing yards. - Not as well as it should have. - Not as well as it should have. - Three rushing yards for the Wolverine. - I understand that. - It's a little different to get that to work against USC. - I get it. - I don't think it is. - But they're defense is improved. - Their defense looks good. - They're improved. - I won't say they're good, but they're improved. - But to answer the question, it's going to be under. Michigan is going to allow less than 24 points. And I want to be very, very clear about something. - Little Johnson. - I saw in the wake up Woodward chat, shout out to, I think it was JB who has sent it to us, that he posted a mock draft. And it has Will Johnson, Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant, all as projected top 10 picks. And I want to give a message to every single one of them. - If you don't get into playoff, that's a travesty, a travesty. - Well, Will Johnson, let me talk to you, Will Johnson, really quick, you have to be Johnson Island. You can't be what you were against Arkansas State and Fresno State, giving up place to those wide receivers. It just can't happen. You need to not let a USC receiver gain another yard to quote coach Yoast from "Remember the Titans." No catches, no yards. You need to be Johnson Island-like, like I expected you would be before the season. And Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant, I'll give them credit. I think they played their best game against Arkansas State, both of them. However, USC is a different animal. Mason Graham before the season was talked about as potentially the best player in college football, maybe a number one overall pick. And he has been all right, but he has not been that so far this year. I think it's partially his fault, but I also think week Martindale has something to do with that. - It was you thinking not to do it. - However, however, this is a game where Mason Graham needs to dominate. Kenneth Grant, with your size, with your speed, with your power, nobody should be able to block you. Mason Graham, Kenneth Grant, Will Johnson need to dominate. Not play like they have been, dominate. That is their key to beating USC. Dominate with your top 10 picks and everything else will fall into place. I need blood. I need no catches for whoever Will Johnson is guarding. All of it. Make it happen. - Well, that ain't going to happen. - That was good for Atlanta, I liked that. - Thank you. - At least, at least you're excited. Like, I'll give you that, at least you're it. Now, I know you're excited 'cause I assume you'll be there. If you marry me into Michigan, take it straight. - We're on that later, right? - We're on that later. - He had to ho it so far, but he got it. (laughing) - All right, guys, can we cook through these last couple here? - Yes, of course. - We cooked it up for sure. - We did the flannel Sam pregame speech in the locker room. - Yes. - So I think we're good girls. - Oh, but I'm happy. At least you're showing a pulse. I think they're going to win. I think Michigan's going to win a game. - They do have a pass to win. I told you that. - And I think it's, I gotta see it though. I'm sorry. - And for the record, just before we move on, I think Wink Martindale has done a very poor job. He's definitely-- - Barry. - He's definitely a downgrade to Mike McDoughlin. Yes, he's a mentor. - Whoa, whoa, whoa. - Hey, come on, come on. - I thought he was an elite defensive play caller. - I thought there would be no trouble. - I thought there would be no trouble. - I called Ted into, that's not another nanny, but any who, that's neither here nor there. - All right, let's move on. - All right, next question. Over, under one and a half turnovers for Alex Orgy this week. - Under. - Under. - He's gonna throw less than 20 times. They're gonna spoon feed him play actions and RPOs and whatnot. And my other hard hitting analysis with Alex Orgy is other than that, please. Just please, just don't turn the football over. That's why Davis Warren isn't in the game because he got picked off six times in three games. That's unacceptable. Orgy will be an upgrade and his threat with his legs is going to keep defenses honest. He has zero or one turnovers. Go ahead, KJ. - He might get two deep shots from him as well. - I hope so. - He'll be on the lookout for that. They almost connected on one of that Arkansas state game. - Yes. - Tyler Morris. - Yeah. All right, next down. - Next down, over under one and a half turnovers forced by Michigan versus USC. - That is over. - Over. - You want to get into props? If you want to get into props. - Don't put in this, man. - No. - They have objectively looked like a much better team than Michigan so far. - Not beating Utah State. - Yeah. By the way they beat them, the way they beat LSU, they have objectively looked like a much better team than Michigan so far. - I pseudo agree with Spinny, but the Michigan defense, I believe, is better than at all. - Well, it's about spinning and just keep in mind that a lot of what I'm saying, you can make a case for, but there's some element of heart overhead, just as you would be with Michigan State. So I think they're going to go over. And here's why, in terms of turnovers forced by Michigan, Derek Moore, Kenneth Grant, and a Mason Graham all have zero sacks. I'm not saying they've been terrible, but they need to make impact plays. I think one of them gets a sack fumble that's recovered by Michigan, and I also think either Will Johnson or McCarty Page picks one off. So they forced two turnovers, and that is one of the differences in the game. - Yeah. All right, next down. - All right, next down. Final question of the Michigan nickel package. Colston Loveland's status for the UFC matchup is uncertain. I didn't know that. How big of a potential loss would this be for Michigan? - Michigan fans are going to weigh over value this and say it's big, not with what they're going to do. - I'm telling you guys, yeah. This is going to be army shit right here. 100%. It doesn't matter that Colston Loveland, now I know that doesn't fit your narrative. And you're like, oh, it's a crushing blow for Colston Lo-- not this week, not this week. - However, if they-- - You see a saw. - If they do need to spoon feed some throws, who better to spoon feed them to than Colston Loveland? However, however, and this is another one where I'm being a little hard overhead, but I'm just going to say it. 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When Diddy news breaks, we break in. Yes, I got you all, man. Spencer Raxter in the building as well. Bourbon Friday shot out New Holland Brewing. They sent the origin, the good stuff. Dragons about to get a third cup after this break. Got to get some more rocks for you. You got a long day here. So you can withstand it. You damn right. You damn right. But no, we are keeping it pushing. We just did Michigan. We promise you the Michigan State Nickel package. Spencer Raxter, I'll call you to the main stage. Uh oh. Hello. Michigan State package. Talk about those parties. Party time? Of course. Party time? Best team in the state right now for sure. Best team in the state. I got to give it up. Best defense in the state. They're looking great. All right. First question of the MSU Nickel package. What would a win versus Boston College actually mean for MSU this year? Day for real. Easy. It's a good win at Boston College. I'm not saying it's not a good win. The D&T's kept saying it. The red bandana game. No, because they're not going to beat Ohio State. They're not going to be Oregon. I think a win at BC means that they are legitimate. And that they will guarantee you get a ball game. And that's there. I'm with you with that. That's what I mean by for real. Yeah. It's just for me flannel, if they win this football game, they're making a ball. They're 100% making a ball. And for Michigan State, that's the highway you're on right now. You know what I'm saying? Like people will be like, oh, make a ball. Congratulations. When you've been where that program's been over the last couple of years, that's the step. That's the step you got to get to. I mean, spending you know this, the end of Dantonio, starting with 2016, Mel Tucker, those have been some rough times for MSU fans. I think if Michigan State goes into Boston College and wins, that you can count the Oregon State invasion starting with Jonathan Smith and Aidan Childs as one of the more impactful acquisitions any college team made in this offseason. Because I think if Michigan State beats Boston College, they're an eight-win regular season team. I really believe that. Yeah. And it would be absolutely huge because I still think people are questioning whether or not MSU is for real or not. Although I'll give you this, I think that when at Maryland was actually pretty impressive. It was a big win. It was come back when your guy did it. He went out. He made a good deal. They'll do that. No, how is that not impressive? No, it's nice because you were a nine-point underdog. Yeah. And you went in there and you took care of business? Well, much like USC, we're talking about Talia-less Maryland. And we're talking about different levels of team. Fair, no fair. MSU is not fair. You can't compare a win on MSU to Maryland to a win from Michigan against Fresno State. Like, Michigan's a much better team. They're supposed to be a much better team. Michigan State wasn't supposed to start off the arena. Fair. And that's, I guess when you say they're legit, that's open to interpretation of what is legit. Not a bum team. Exactly. It shows me that Jonathan Smith knows what he's doing. And it shows me that they are headed in the right direction. And I'll say this. When you parlay a win at Maryland with the parlay of a win at Boston College. Oh, cool. Yeah, VC who punched out with Miss Zu by the way. I didn't accept that one, Miss Zu. Yeah, and they blew the brakes off of Florida State. Yeah, VC not. Not Florida State sucks. Oh, yeah, I know. VC is no slack now, I'll say that. I like that Florida State paid Memphis a million to lose to them. For a lot of those stories. All right. Quick pause in the MSU nickel package, because I just got to shout this out. Tomorrow, if you guys want to come celebrate with me for my birthday, I will be-- at the DIY Fest. It's a little word. It's right by the WAB bar in Ferndale. My boy's band is playing. It's the Starlings. They go on at 615. It's an animal box, right? Oh, no, no. Animal box, no more. Oh, damn. Damn. All right. We're not going to get into that. But, yeah, the Starlings is the band that he's going to be playing in. He's the lead guitar. They start-- like, I'm going to be down there at 615. So come out, have a beer, have a good time. I was waiting for a graphic to pop up on the screen. It's the Spenny Whiteout party. You got to show my boy out. That's ditty shit. That's ditty shit. Don't do the Whiteouts. He's insane on the guitar. Like, he rips. So come out and support. It's a good time. All right, next question. All the MSU nickel package. That's ditty shit. What are you putting more stock into on this MSU team? The offense or the defense? The offense. I still don't believe in the defense. Well, it's not that. It has to be the offense. Yeah. Like, it has to be. You got your quarterback. You got your guy. You got your big nil. And look, if I'm going to mess with the Don, then I got to apply the same principles to Aidan Chai. Thank you. Like, that's-- if there were an MSU football video game, he's on the cover. Like, that's-- it has to be him. There is no other alternative. And I know he's 19 or 18 or, you know, however old he is. I know that. But that's the situation he's in. He's the face of it. He's the keys to the car. He's all of it. So it's got to be him. I was going to say I believe more in the offense. And it's more about, with the defense, that game at Maryland. And this isn't knocking the wind because you take road wins in the Big Ten anyway that you can. I saw a little bit of that 2015 MSU devil magic with, for some reason, on first in 10 on the Michigan State 37 Billy Edwards is throwing the damn ball and it gets picked by Charles Brantley. And then they get the ball back. And then Maryland drives into Michigan State territory. And Miss is a field goal, which then leads to that at Charles to Marshbaum. It's just that Billy Edwards for a lot of the game picked Michigan State apart. Michigan State stopped the run game, but-- Billy Edwards sounds-- Owning a rental property sounds like a dream. Collect a rent, and relax. That is until you realize how much work goes into getting it ready. First, you need to conduct market research to understand local rental trends and determine a competitive rent price. Then there's cleaning, staging, repairs, and hiring a professional photographer. Next, develop a marketing strategy. List the property on rental sites. It's going to kill the showings. Oh, don't forget to screen tenants for information. 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I'm not-- if you say yes, I feel like you're offering child's up an excuse. Yeah. You guys spend decent money on your offensive line from what I was told. Yeah. So then no. Aidan child's like in Friday. This ain't enough. You're right. Make it enough. Yeah, it's a work in progress. I think they'll be better as the season goes on. I think the offensive line is still a concern because it was a concern coming into the season. And we all knew that this stretch of the next five games is going to be what really determines MSU season. So far, though, I think they've played well and they've kept Aidan child's relatively clean and unsacked and hit and hit. But I still think they need to show more in these next five games. Yeah, I think this is the real test is we're going to see a pretty damn good front seven against Boston College. So we'll see. I mean, I like it so far. Definitely been good, but Aidan child is also a lot more valuable running around back there than who we had last year. Because no, Jim's. All right, no, I can't bum. All right, next question. I'm starting to believe they can. I actually made a bet with Mike G in the Woodward sports chat about it. OK, can Michigan State beat Michigan this year? Can they beat them? Yes. They can. I'm not ready to say they will yet, but they can. They can. If Michigan keeps playing the way they're playing, they can. Not at Michigan. They can't beat them at Michigan. And the thing is, and you guys, by the way, you guys, and when I say you guys, you people, you people on this side of the room, the Michigan section of the room, when they bust USC up the gut and get 220 yards rushing on them. You're praying on that. I don't want to hear about how you're back, because you don't believe when they beat USC this weekend, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. You can say that because it would be a season saving win. If they lose, they're staring 5 and 7, 6 and 6, 7 and 5 right down the barrel. But the moral of the story is when it happens, and that's what I believe, spending, to tie it into the question, that's what I believe. When everything else breaks down, they can run the football. They can run the football. Are they a national championship playoff team? No, absolutely. You have to have a quarterback that's capable of the throw thing at some point. But, Neil, that's not all of the fan base, though. Clearly, I need to see more of what this offense can bring if they do go out and beat USC. I'm not just going to come in here and be like, oh, you know, Michigan's back. No, I got to see more. Because I'll be wilding out. Speak for yourself. I'll be wilding out. There's the difference. There's the difference. It's not a problem, because it's a season saving. That's not a problem. That would be a really big win. That would be a huge win. It would be a big win, but the offense has been so bad. We can't just say that yet. All right, but they made the requisite changes that they needed to make. And hopefully-- No, it's not they. It's USC. Yeah, it's USC. It's USC. So what? USC is a better team than Michigan so far this year. Yes. You keep saying it like it's nothing. Yes, they are better. They're better than Michigan. We got to be real about the offense. Neil, you're setting me real. I don't know what Neil's doing. Neil's doing all this to set himself up. So when USC wins, he's going to be like, oh, I tried. [INTERPOSING VOICES] And that's fine. But let me answer the question about Michigan and Michigan State. And I will say this. I don't want to believe that Michigan State can win. But right now, all things are on the table. Of course, yes. All bets are off until we see if Alex Orgy can actually make any type of throw when he needs to. Because that man, Alex Orgy-- and I believe he's going to make the offense better. I really do-- could not beat Davis Warren out. That's a red flag, at least. That is a red flag, absolutely. Because Davis Warren came in, and all he did was throw six picks in three games. I think Alex Orgy is going to be better. But the question that I have to ask is why wasn't he out there from the beginning, just because Alex Orgy has at least an elite trait running the football, that Michigan trusted him to do in high leverage situations last year. Right, but that's why you can't just rip the offense if they go out and beat USC and do it to the tune of running the football. We can't just come in here and be like, oh, you know, Michigan's back. We can't do it. Don't get me wrong, dude. It's not a quote belief in Michigan. It is an anti-belief in USC. That's what it is. The travel, all of it. I do not buy USC at all. I get you. At all. I do not believe-- Largely. Largely, I do not believe in this big 10. And I know it's a little bar, but we have to acknowledge that the defense is better on USC side. We do. Well, we'll find out, won't we? Oh, yeah. And final question-- We'll see. I'm going to change this one from what I put down there. Sure. I just thought of it. Who will have a 10-win season first? Michigan or Michigan State? This year? No, just next-- The next one I have a 10-win season. The next one I have a 10-win season. By default, I do. I believe in Jane Davis going in the next year. I believe that Cheryl Moore can do better recruiting. I got to say Michigan by default. I do. Why don't you go next? Michigan, because Jayden Davis is going to be-- I'm telling you. Jayden Davis sees it next year. And I'll be honest, there's not a snowball's chance in hell I'd ever pick Michigan State on this one. A little hard overhead. But I also can acknowledge that I don't think Michigan is going to get it this year. So I can't offer you too much good analysis. It's just I'm not picking MSU and you can't make me. Well, Penny, I'm unbiased in this. And I'm telling you that if there is a chance, but I just believe in Michigan and their recruiting, that's it. I'm going to Michigan State. Of course. I mean, again, you guys are talking about Jayden Davis and him being the future. Aiden Childs is the now. Y'all got you on quarterback. Aiden Childy had that quarterback. He looks electric. He is going to get better as he gets more games under his belt. Nick Marsh, he is the now. He looks really good. And once we get a full recruiting cycle of Jonathan Smith recruits, he plays a transfer portal very well, obviously. So I could see Michigan State win for 10 games next year. It's literally a coin flip. Michigan State schedule next year is Western Michigan Youngstown State and Boston College, all at home. I love that. Oh, wow. And we got at Texas. So-- Well, no, next year, next year, you have New Mexico, Central Michigan, and you're at Oklahoma. They got to get some reprieve after this year. I don't care what you're talking about. Yeah. 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Bourbon Friday shout out new Holland brewing. They got us in the origin bourbon, by the way. The dragons milk origin KG loves it. He's going in for cut number three right now as a matter of fact. He'll be here all day, everybody. He is certainly getting after it. And that's OK, because it is a bourbon Friday, by the way. Sure. We're doing tigers now? It is. It's time for the Tigers, Nickel Pack, and San Flanagan for DMAT, KG Spencer Raxter, all of you. Let's ride, man. All right. First question of the Tigers nickel package. In honor of Neil, cut the shit. Are they making the playoffs? Yes. Yeah, yeah. I told you that almost a week ago, I locked it in. It's about a week ago. At plus 430, whatever that number was. The writing was on the wall. And I know the analytics of it all, because what the analytics do is they take a Minnesota Twins team. That's what a 550 baseball team at the time, right? 550. They just project that win total out. They don't take into account that they are crumbling. And you can see it. And how do you know that? Just watch them in a game. Watch them in a big spot. Every big spot for the last two weeks, they've folded, dude. They've absolutely folded. And look, the Tigers have went on a hell of a run. But the Twins are 10 and 20 in their last 30 games. Their fall needs to be studied. It does. Yep, they're vomiting all over themselves. They've lost two consecutive extra inning games, and they're 10 and 20 in their last 30. And they don't get the benefit of playing three home games against the Chicago White Sox, which, if you're the Tigers, those should be auto wins. So yes, the Tigers are making the playoffs. And hopefully, if they win the wild card weekend, we get some Camarica Park playoff baseball in the ALDS. Robert Closie wants to know, when is the Western Illinois nickel package? We should do one. Hey, Rodney Harrison. Oh, my god. He's going to ask five questions about Rodney Harris. All right. That's about all you got. That's not all you got. All right, next question of the Tigers nickel package. Are you worried about Cole Keith? He did say he felt better than he expected. You're talking like injury wise? Yeah, I mean-- The shoulder. Always injury wise. I am not worried about him, though, as a major league hitter. Not at all. He got that average pumped up to 260, which on this lineup is saying something. It just did. No effects. And shout out to the Tigers for having the foresight. They knew what's out there. No, they identified and they signed him. Yeah, they identified it. Now, do Riley Green. Please, do Riley Green. Yes, please. But anyway, though, I digress. Am I worried about him being hurt? Yeah, yeah, I'm always worried about guys being hurt. But I'm not worried about his makeup because he crawled to, quote, Shawshank. He crawled through the river of shit earlier this year. He came out clean on the other side. So I'm all right with him. I agree with everything you've said. And I'll just add that Colt Keith currently leads the Tigers in batting average and hits. So what he's been able to do after the poor start to his season, at least number wise, is it's something. It's a big reason why the Tigers are where they are now. Mike G, Pete Spivek would love a Mac nickel package. He would. We should do one nickel package next Friday. Nickel package. Leave it up to the people. All right, Tuesday night. Yeah. That's Thursday. Yeah, the people get to choose. Yeah, next Thursday, remind me. We'll do that. Yeah, you guys mark this on this. I got a lot going on. So remind me of this on Thursday. The people. The people can choose one of the nickel packages on Friday. Well, no, what can they get? No, I'm talking about it. Next Sunday, nickel package. KG, if we get that, you're coming up. I got you. I got you. Next question of the Tigers nickel package. Who deserves more credit? AJ Hinch. AJ Hinch or Chris Fetter. AJ Hinch. I disagree. AJ Hinch. I disagree. AJ Hinch. Spenny, I want you to give your reasoning, because I agree with you. I think Chris Fetter is the most important coach in sports right now. He not only helped these guys that nobody knows or nobody thought. Like, what was that guy's last name? They got to double play Gunther or-- Say, yeah, Seth Gunther. Skunther. Sean Gunther. Sean Gunther. You got Hanafi pitching well. You got Brisky coming in here pitching well. Monteiro was getting shelled before Chris Fetter got his hands on him when he was in double A. He comes up here. He looks better than Corbin Burns. You have him sculpt and chisel. The beautiful masterpiece work of art that Tariq Scooble is from a slab of marble like Chris Fetter. Yeah, it brings in flarity. He looks great again. Trades him off. Brings in. Lorenz in. He looks good again. Trades him off. Chris Fetter. Everything he touches turns to gold. Is it Chris Midas or King Fetter? Like, this guy, that's Flannel's bit. I stole it from him. But this is just, I love what he's doing. He is the most important coach in sports right now. He should be the highest paid bench coach in that moment. And Spindy, I agree with all of that. But that means nothing if AJ Hinch is in pulling the right strings at the right times and playing these guys in the right spots. But he's pinch hitting for Kerry Carpenter. And it works. No, I understand. And that was actually a good move. Like that game, I forgot what day it was. I think it was Monday. We're on the top of the sixth. He pinched it. Abanias for Tradeswini and Abanias got a hit. And then he pinched it. Wenseel Perez, who's a switch hitter for Kerry Carpenter. And he got the two run tying double. I agree with Spindy, though. It's about the Reclamation projects. Ty Madden, Brant Herder, Cader Monterra, Brennan Hanafi, all had horrific numbers in AAA. Ty Madden, who came into the season as the number one pitching prospect in the Tigers organization, had an 832 ERA in AAA this year. He comes to the majors. It's 255. Brant Herder is five in one with a 256 ERA during his time with the Tigers. It's opened multiple games while having a 580 ERA in AAA. Jack Flaherty was going to pitch his way out of the league until Chris Fetter got his hands on them. And Jack Flaherty helped the Tigers win a lot of games in the first half. And Jack Flaherty got us Tradeswini, more on him later. So I'm going to go with Chris Fetter on this one. I agree with you, Spindy. And I look at it as you can make the argument that it's like a realistic argument that the Tigers have the best pitching staff in baseball. They don't have a pitching staff. They're pitching staff. It's trying to do people. And Chris Fetter, like, that's literally it. If you look at FIP, Fielding Independent Pitching, WIP, Walks in Hitzper, any pitch or ERA, there are top three in baseball in all three of those categories as a staff. - And we haven't even gotten to Tyler Holton. - Yes. - Yeah, that's true. - Insane. - There's really no wrong answer to this, but what I will say is I said it last week. There is no, like, A.J. Hintch is displaying, like, a feel for the game that we haven't seen since Jim Lee. - Yeah, A.J. Hintch has done a great job. - Yeah, for sure. - His feel for the game is, like, crazy. - Yeah. - God, if we had A.J. Hintch instead of... - You would have won two World Series. - Absolutely. - At least one, at least one. - But yeah, his feel for the game is crazy. - If we had Chris Fetter with that fucking pitching staff with both side young winners on him. - You know, real quick, Brad Awsmis skates in this town for some reason. - Thank you. - It's not deserved to. - He gets away with shit, and I don't understand why. - He's a bum. - But that's kinda... - He's a good-looking man. - That's all in management. - But he was a shitty manager. - That's all in management. Taking the chance on the guy that had no MLB experience. - Okay. - That's all in management. - All right, next question of the Tigers' nickel package is Trey Sweeney an actual piece for this team long term. - He's a stopgap. Until Bryce Rainier is ready. - You know what he is? Until Bryce Rainier is ready. - You know what he is? He's not Harvey Bias. - I knew you was a ghost. - He's Adam Everett. He's Ramon Santiago. - Yeah. - Right, right. - He'll play the role. - He'll hit 240. What else do you mean? - Which, which if you're starving and someone gives you a cracker, it's the best cracker you ever ate in your life. - True. But you think you have your star shortstop in your system. So for right now, he's just the stopgap. - I agree with you 100% KG that for this team, I don't think he's a future. He's gonna be, I think it's gonna be McGonagall or Bryce Rainier when it's all said and done. However, on this Tigers team that is making a playoff run, do you know what Trey Sweeney is? Remember that one song? No, buddy, he's perfect, but you're perfect for me. Tigers are saying that right now. Because right now, do you know what Trey Sweeney's OPS is? - Let's see, he's on it. - 688, which is not even a good OPS. But, Javier Bias is with-- - It is in contact. - Javier Bias is with 516. And Trey Sweeney has also come up with some really big hits. So, he is going to help spark this playoff run, but I think when it's all said and done, he's not gonna be a part of the Tigers' future, but he's doing his job. - He's on negative defenders. - Yes, absolutely. - Final question of the nickel package for the Tigers. Looking to where the Tigers are, they are right outside of the play. Well, technically in the playoffs, but they have the tiebreaker. If they had another bat on this team, you could say they would be comfortably in the playoffs. You look at the production out of third base with, Jase Young has not been good. Obanyas can't hit a right-hander to save his life. And McKinn Street, when he's there, it's just like eh. Can we admit that we needed match admins? - Benny, why do you do this to KG? - No, but Neil-- - Why do you do this to him? - He's gonna get upset. - No, no, Neil. - We've done this dance before. - Neil. - KG's gonna come in here and make a bunch of excuses right now. - I'm not, Neil. - Why do you do this to this? - Neil, KG, I'm standing up for you right now. - I wonder, Neil, when you're right, you're right. I've admitted you're right. But at the same time, I'm getting sick of this argument, especially at the fact that they are damn near in the wildcard now. - Yes. - They've had everything they needed from the jump. - I'll make this turn right now, and I'll get in, and I'll get out. - I'm getting sick of this argument. - We are 28th and payroll. - Yes. - We are 28th and payrolls. - Yes. - We are 28th and payroll, that's bullshit. - It is. - Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me give, give, I think the correct answer on this. Matt Chatman will-- - Well, let's go revving Sparta Giorchella though. We forgot about him. - Hold on, huh. - That's your boy. - But I never listened. I never said he was the future at third base. I just said it was a good signing. - KG, you look into that camera and say Giorchella was my boy. - I said he was a good signing. I never said he was the future at third base. - I never said it. - So you was your boy for this year? - For this year, exactly. - Say it. - For this year. - Say it. - I'm sorry, what day? - You know what, I'm the voice of reason. - Come on, Sam. - In this conversation, because Giorchella, yeah, he wasn't good, but the Tigers, he wasn't bad either though. - Yeah, he did what we needed him to do. - Listen, I never, 300% on base percentage about a 6-8. - He did what we needed him to do. - I disagree with that. But let me give you, they shot him into a cannon when they needed to. - Yes. - And let me give you this context on Matt Chapman. Matt Chapman, he's somebody that I got kind of sick of people talking about early in the year, but I will put my swords down. He had a hell of a season. One of the top wins above replacement guys in Major League Baseball. However, and he would have undoubtedly helped this team. However, if the Tigers make the playoffs, I'm not complaining about nothing. - Thank you. - Nothing. - Oh, come on. - Because what have we seen this season? Riley Green's an All-Star. Kerry Carpenter, when he's on the baseball diamond, is a 900 OPS guy and about half a season. - As long as left, these aren't pitching to him. - That's fine. Matt Veerling, and I'm not saying Matt Veerling should get reps over Matt Chapman, but he is a player who people would say. - No, he's a Major League Baseball player and a guy that helps you win. - Absolutely. People say he wouldn't start on a playoff team. Well, he is. - He is right now. - He is right now. - He would start on any team. - Absolutely. - Any team. - Colt Keith is your starting second baseman for the future and is a starting second baseman on a playoff team. I'm not saying that Parker Meadows, ever since he came back from being out in the minors, then after that IEL's stint, after the Cincinnati series, has been an All-Star level player. My point is that Matt Chapman would have helped this team. He's a damn good player. - True. - But if the Tigers make the playoffs, I'm not complaining about nothing because all of us would have given a toe for the Tigers to make the playoffs this year and it looks like they're about to do it. - And Neil just two things. One, they needed to see what they had. So that's your- - That's your shower. - Yeah, they saw it. - Listen, listen. He was a stop gap move. He was always going to be a stop gap move. They just needed to see what they had and two, you're dealing in hypotheticals. For somebody that says, you know, to the numbers and facts that you are, we are dealing in hypotheticals. If they signed them, sure. They'd probably be a game or so, you know, over what they are now, but we don't know that. That is a hypothetical. We don't know- - We're gonna go break we're way over. - We know that Michigan's football coach got suspended twice in the season. - Go break, break, break. - We're not dealing in hypotheticals, right? - We're not dealing in hypotheticals, right? - That's a good break. - That's a good break. That's a good break. - Randy Wise, not those other guys, of course. Let me get it together really quick. You know what? There is a, it is a great place to get yourself a car. And you know what else you can do? You can be on the celebrity golf tour with the likes of Darren McCarty, Kurt Gibson, Calvin Johnson, and Braylon Edwards at the- - Where would you play golf with Braylon Edwards? - At the University of Michigan golf course. 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Do I lock it in? - That's fire. - Let's do it. - Top five wing sauces. There you go. That's the way it works. You guys will choose your own adventure with a nickel package on Thursday as well. Jake, how do the Tigers get by us off the books? Write them the check and pun his ass out of the box. - Exactly. - You know how you get them out of town? - Yeah. - Just write the check. - It's baseball. You just get them out of town. - Yeah. - And you forget about it. - All right. - All right, let's go. - Sports Media Nickel Package. - Yes. - First question of the Sports Media Nickel Package. The Packers versus Eagles game in Brazil. - Brazil. - This is Brazil. It was exclusively streamed on Peacock with over 14 million viewers. But we all told Neil, we weren't gonna pay for another streaming service. Did we all hit a Neil? - I wonder who wrote this. - Thank you, Benny. - I wonder who wrote this. - Thank you, Benny. - You're welcome. - I was told by all of you out there you're not doing the streaming service thing. - You was always so-- - I think people did lie to me. - Dude, we're addicted. And principally, I don't like the whole Peacock thing. I'll admit it, but we're addicted. It's a big game. It's two playoff teams. It's the second football game of the season. What else are you gonna do, man? - What are you saying people did lie to me? - Oh my God. - You guys, you guys all talk. But K.G., you people all talk so tough. - You people. - In August, you talk when these deals are announced. I'm not doing another streaming service. And lo and behold, there's 14 million of you watching on Peacock. - Well, of course. And I've always been in agreement. - Chin up, Iris. I didn't pay. Bullshit. Yes, you did. - Yeah. - Yes, you did. - No. And I was in agreement with you with this all the whole time. I'm somebody that pirates and also pays for streaming apps. So yeah, like they got us by the shore and curlies. What do you want me to do? - Red Wing's Fan Club. No, they just got the free trial, didn't cancel. That's the second line of bullshit you guys use. - Well, a lot of people do do that. - You drop that credit card, it auto renews, and then you find out, oh shit, Sunday Night Football, I gotta watch it, you and you let it roll. Stop talking tough. Stop. You're gonna do whatever the NFL says. Just admit to it, move on. - That's true. - Okay. - Best subscription service in the entire world is Crunchyroll. I'm just saying. - Yeah. - You should all do this. - It is the most worth your money. All right, next question. Are the guys, are you guys hype for Big Ten football on CBS with USC at Michigan as a part of the $1 billion a year deal they did with the Big Ten? - Nothing says Big Ten football. Like that 330 window on CBS. - Absolutely. - This, to be fair, and I'll keep it 100 with everybody. You are going to do all the streaming you are, and that's the reason they do this. All three of the networks are doing a billion dollar per year deal with the Big Ten. All three of them. So, I'll keep it 100 with everybody. It bothers me. It bothers me. This one bothers me. That's SEC football. That's CBS 330. - Why does it bother you? - It just, I don't know why. All right, I can't put a finger on it. - This money for everybody. - No, I know I get the why. I champion the why. I looked you guys in the eye and said you guys are full of shit. I get it. But it does bother me. It just does flannel. I'm so, Gary Danielson doing the Big Ten now. - Look at you being a traditionalist. - Let me ask you a question. Do you hate this version of USC more than you love the Matt liner, Reggie Bush, Lendale White USC? Do I hate this version more? - Then you love the-- - No, no, I love the Reggie Bush. - I'm just saying, like you've got a little USC derangement syndrome. You cannot bear to have Gary Danielson call a USC game? How, the horror, the humanity-- - No, it's not, it's not USC, it's an SEC. - That's fine. - That's fine. - Yeah. - But the Big Ten is here now. Right. The Big Ten is here now, man. It is what it is. - You know, we're gonna be seeing-- - They're using the same theme. - Yes. - That's a Roger. - You want it. - You want it. - You want it. - Now, that's where I draw the line. They're gonna run the same theme using out there. That is bullshit. I don't care what you guys say. - And we're gonna see in Khalil Mullings with a lot of power runs in the end zone this Saturday. - You damn right. Talk about it, Sam. - With that Sam in the background, while they're playing the highlights. - Talk about it, Sam. - Come on. - Talk about it. - A little Mason Graham sack fumble that's recovered by Mason Graham as well. You know, have himself a clowny moment. - Real cream of wheat are, matey. Okay, man. - Yeah, right. - Good luck with that buffering. - I do both, though. So they got us either way. - Just like Diddy, he does both. - All right. - Not just like this. - Speaking of Diddy, Mike G, the new Big Ten gets my freak off. So. - Jonathan Anton, recommendations on Crunchyroll. The time I got reincarnated as a slime just came out with a new season. That's a really good one. - How did you number eight is good? - How did you number eight is great? Windbreaker is really good. Windbreaker is really good. - It's like Tokyo or Avengers, but not with all the stupid shit. - I just started watching Tower of God this pretty good. - Tower of God is really good. Yeah, there's solo leveling. It's her season just ended. It's got a new season already coming pretty soon. I could go for days. - Real cream of wheat. - Real cream of wheat. I heard Neil Rule was at one of those P Diddy parties. - Oh, no. - You sure? - Yeah, I'm one million per cent. - Man, if you're stature is at P Diddy party. - Absolutely. - Next question of the sports media nickel package. Speaking of college football, Georgia and Texas October 19th on ABC. Obviously the network is hoping both teams remain undefeated in this matchup. Just over 9 million people watch Texas and Michigan on Fox. (laughs) - Well, your people, Georgia and Texas leave us alone. - Why is he taking shots at us? - No, you're taking shots at us. - You think more people will watch it than watch Michigan, Texas? - If they're both undefeated, they should, because that will be a matchup. One of the greatest on paper college football. - Owning a rental property sounds like a dream. Collect a rent and relax. 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It's fucking sick. - Spenny, do you think more people will watch that game? - No. - Really? - No, I don't. I think Texas and Michigan are rightfully or not rightfully so bigger brands than Georgia. Like, I know Georgia is one, two national championships. Texas is still a bigger brand. - Georgia's a better football team, but they're a bigger brand. - Texas is a bigger brand. Michigan obviously is the biggest brand in college sports. So yeah, they're, no. - And that's, and that's where it is too. Like with Georgia being an Athens, Atlanta, like downtown Atlanta is a Georgia tech, you know? Strong. - Yeah, that's true. - That's just the way that it is. So they don't have like that huge city that people are going to mobilize for and roll out and watch it. But at the same time, when I tell you guys that I hate this part of it, this is why. This is why right here. Because Georgia and Texas, like, come on, what are we talking about? - All right, right. - You should get a billion dollars. - It'll decide the one seed probably in the college football playoff. - Yeah. - So good. - It's so dumb. - It's so good. - That's a banger. - It's a great theme song. - Share the theme song. - Share the theme song. - Share the theme song. - Share the theme song. - Share it, man. - It's okay. It's okay, Neil. - Okay, Neil. - All right, next question of the college. Oh, we gotta speed up. We're over. We're gonna be the morning show. - Damn. - Two University of Montana athletes signed NIL deals endorsing a political candidate. Is this going too far? - It's never going too far. - Get the bag. - Get your bag. - That's all it is. - Get your bag. You know what athletes, hear me now. And people that I work for probably won't like this. But hear me now. Get every dollar you can get. - You damn right. - The coach gets every dollar they can get. You should get every dollar you can get. - Especially if you're a brother. - The athletic director gets every dollar they can get. So you should get every dollar you can get. The president of the university gets every dollar they can get. So you get every dollar that you can get. Because guess what, guys? The athletes, none of this happens without you. There's no one to coach. There's no one to win. There's no one to drive applications to the university. Get every dollar you can get. From whoever offers it to you. Whoever. Oh, you guys know. I'm so tired of that, man. Like Davos Sweeney sits on his high horse with his $70 million guarantee contract. - And that's why he's gonna lose. That's why he's gonna lose. Don't worry about it. - He sits on his high horse with 70 M's in the bank, no matter what. Easy to say, Davos. Easy to say. Get every dollar you can get. I'll never be mad at it. - And I have to be the voice of reason that Davos Sweeney is still one of the greatest college football coaches ever. - Until he's not. - Okay, fine. Fair, fair enough. But any who, it's Montana, to your point. Montana football players with all due respect are probably not gonna be getting big contracts in the NFL. This isn't Will Johnson and Mason Graham endorsing a political candidate and getting NIL. These are guys that are probably never gonna play in the league. So this might be one of the biggest paychecks they ever get in their life. So shout out, get your money, Kings. - To be fair, when I read this story, the contracts range from $500 to $2,500. - Alright, well, scratch everything I should say. - Right, Dale. - But, but you know what though? - Get your money, get the money, man. - Get the money, man. - For real. - If anybody wants to pay me to do a commercial, I'm there. - Right. - I will sell out so quick. Alright, final question of the day of Nickel package in Bourbon Friday. Flannel. Flannel, you married into Michigan football season tickets. - Facts. - Some say it's the reason you got married. But anyway, would you support a $10 per cent talent fee on every ticket to get money to pay players like Tennessee's? - You prostitute. - Whether I support it or not, I'm gonna pay for tickets. Like whenever my father-in-law doesn't wanna go to games anymore, I'd like for him to pass the tickets on to me and I will pay him for them. So yeah, I'm still gonna go to games. So by nature, I'm supporting whatever the hell they want me to support. - Exactly. Same here. - Is what it is. - Same here, I'm with the team. If I wanna go to a game, I'm gonna throw the money out. Did you, Spenny, that's a difficult question or a difficult statement to bring up. - Man, why do you write those crazy questions today? - I know. - I wonder, crazy, that's Spenny doing that. - Did you get married for season tickets? Is that true? - I did not, it was just, there's no better perk for old flannel Sam than Michigan football tickets. - Prostitute. - There's not, like, I would rather have Michigan football tickets than like a mansion in, I don't know, the Florida Keys or something like whore. Max Mayer, I wouldn't pay 10% for DJU. Yes, you would, if you were selling on a van, yes, you would. - If you supported them enough, absolutely. - If they charge you 10% extra for Davis Warren. - Yeah, you're paying 10% extra for Alex Orgy, you're gonna do it. You are going to do it. The moral of the story, you guys are all addicted. - Do you know what Alex? - Do you rather have Davis Warren or Alex Orgy? - Alex Orgy. - All right, sorry, Davis Warren or DJU? - DJU. - Pretty close. - DJU has shown something as an organization. - You know how this works in this town. Like, they're Michigan fans, but they're still Detroit fans. Oh, here comes Pete. Pete's got the tray of food in his hand. - Yeah, with a bagel. - No, the dry ass bagel. - Dry bagel, yeah, just a dry plain bagel. - Well, it was funny 'cause he was walking towards and then he looked up and saw that we were still in here. And then he, like, veered off to the right. Like, Barry Sanders, like, he cut. - All right, well, let's get out of here. - Should we? - Should we? - Should we or should we do a sit-in? - Should we take a chill? - I almost wanna do a sit-in. - I'm on all three shots, no matter. - I said, you're in here, you're in here. - It ain't no better for me. - Honest to God, before we, no, we're not gonna do it, but do you think we could carry a till two? - Yeah, for sure. - Easily. - Yeah. - How awesome would that be? - That would be great. - It's Burberry Friday. Of course, we carry it to a clock. - Show 'em a half a mile. - Yeah, man. - And if you want me to start the "Untricked to a Clock," when it comes to DJU versus Davis Warren, - At least. (laughing) - At least DJU was recruited in a top recruit. - At least DJU has had some success at Clemson, Oregon State. - Davis Warren is a goddamn welcome. - Come on, man. - Yeah, it's true, come on. - He's Kate McNamara, but with interceptions. - I'm good, oh, DJU, bro. - I'm not even better than Davis Warren, come on. - That's a no-bar. - Obviously. - Obviously, obviously. - Come on, Brian. - Brian's reaction. You know, Neil is drunk when he does unpaid overtime. Well, you know, I'm sober because I'm not doing it. - Yeah, exactly, there you go. - Let's be real alive. - There you go, tell them. - For real, Spenny, I know you want to wrap it up. How awesome would it be, though, if we went till two o'clock? - It would be good, they would freak out. - Should we do it one time? - Should we do it one time? - Just, I don't want Pete to have a heart attack. 'Cause we're not, we aren't the ones that'll be yelled at. - That's true. - That's true. - He's got a suffix, he has to load in. - Yeah. - How many graphics do they use on E&E? - They give him like 80 and then use like that. - Who comes up with the graphics? - Man. - Did you say 80? - Yup, no, for real. - I used to watch a lot of graphics. - I used to watch Mayor and Fletch and Parker sit back there and make graphics for like an hour and a half. - Yup. - No, they give him so many graphics that they keep them in the system for like a couple days afterwards. - And guess who still might not even get to it? - And guess who gets yelled at if Pete's graphic getting ability is like 0.5 seconds slow. Pete. - Pete, yeah, I feel bad for Pete. - Plus, yeah, Pete is under a lot of pressure. - Shut out, Pete, man, that's my man. - He does his high stress job for sure. But he does it well, shut up Pete. - Why do you need 80 graphics? - Let Pete cook. - It's not actually 80 graphics, but it's a lot of graphics. - It's a lot of graphics. - Right, it's a lot of graphics though. - Why do you need 20 graphics, like for what? - It's a two hour, yeah. - Hey, JB Smoove in the chat who helps in the creation of those graphics, you know, he says facts with three exclamation points. - And if JB Smoove says it, it's true. - It's true, it's law. - The MVP of Woodward Sports without a shadow of a doubt. - Well, why 20 graphics? - I'm hungry, man. - Amen. - Amen. - Right. What are you doing with all those? For real, what are you doing? You can't make your own point. - Talk to Ryan Armani and Braylon Edwards. - Amen, the chat. Just ask the question during the show. I do love doing this. Hey, chat, just ask the question during the show. They won't, but you know. - The chat, well, 100% they won't. - They won't acknowledge you. - Well, that's what I hear. 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