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Big D Energy | Thursday, September 19th, 2024
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Hey, there's my friend Sean Belize. Hey, how's everything going, buddy? I'm great friend. Good, good, good. I'm not sure for. We ain't good good, but we're real good. That is KG. I thought we was making progress. Can you tell me? We were coming together on the Tigers a little bit. What was making progress? I thought, are we good? Good or not? I didn't talk to the black delegation. Literally just on the phone with him. I'm trying to push so shit through. But I mean, if we not good, I just want to good good. Are we good? We're good good, right? We get there like 75 percent. You know, listen, you guys can play that game up or 10, but every time the M word comes up, I just I notice it gets really chilly. It's from good. Every time the M word comes up. It's only with him. I swear to God. Anybody else is just you. It's just you. That's it. I was told there'd be no drop off. Spencer Raxter is here in the bill. What? I was. It's true. I can only go by what I was told. All right. We were not there yet. OK. We're not. We do have a college football segment. We do have a college football segment. We are going to get there. They're dropping. No, you told me that. All right. Anyway, jump jump into the chat, everybody. Subscribe to the Woodward Sports YouTube channel. Get in there. Get your thoughts out there. And you know, go ahead and get it in. First off right off the rip. Happy birthday, Spemmo. Happy birthday. Thank you. Thank you. How are you feeling? Feeling old. I'm feeling old. Twenty eight, right? Yep, twenty eight. Twenty eight years old today. Remember twenty eight. Two years away from from thirty. Yeah, pretty old. Went to the gym this morning because I got a lot to do today. So feeling what time did you go? Seven o'clock. Yeah, it sucks. Dude sucks. No. That's Carpe Diem shit. Yeah, I've done that the past two hours. I'm going to seize the day. I'm a big morning workout guy though, spending not seven a.m. workout, but I mean, I got a, you know, I have to be here. So yeah, I got to be in the shower back in my house at like at the latest nine thirty and yeah, I mean, I'm good. Let's cut the shit. Percentage percentage percentage chance you're here tomorrow. Oh, a hundred percent hundred percent. Yeah, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. If I wanted to bet, yes. What would the line be the line on betting? Yes, would be like minus twelve thousand minus twelve thousand. So no, so no is probably like plus four thousand. Yeah, like 40 to one. Yeah, I give 40 to one. I do it. Yeah, I'll be here. I would make it a get right. But you know, I just ended at forty to one. I might be in the gym tomorrow morning. Okay. He's for real. I'm just saying I'm because because, you know, like I said, it was my birth, my, my boy Dante's birthday was yesterday. My birthday is today and my boy Dom's birthday is on Sunday. So we're all doing, we're going to the pedal bar Saturday night. So that's what we're going to do. You ever do the pedal bar? Really? No, I always want it. Never done it. Never done it. I'm excited and I'm excited to hear about it because I feel like a man like me would do well on the pedal bar for this reason. A man like me does well canoeing. He does well, a man like me because he's always on one of the inside of the inside canoes. I got you here. I don't paddle the pedal bar. I feel like I could do that to where I could just move my legs, get credit for pedaling and not have to pedal. See, I've always been the guy like, you know, back in the day, we used to always go up to like sterling and have like those canoe trips that devolved into vomit in the water. I mean, it just everywhere you look and I was that guy that would get the focus on my eye and just go like this. I like I even when I was ripped, which was every single time, it'd be like left left, right, right, because if I didn't do it, it wasn't going to be done. Oh, wow. Everything felt because you had a bunch of friends like me. Yeah. So you and I, I think you and I might do it well on the pedal bar because I'd be sitting there. We'd be stuck on some street, not moving and I'd go. I have two choices right now because Neil's not going to give me anything. No, yeah, I'd better start pedaling and just focus my mind on that. Or I'm going to be miserable in this spot for the next hour. So I think we would be, I think we would work out well in that. As long as it ain't a lot of people like Neil, because I think you only good is the sum of your parts when it comes to the paddle bar. I think y'all all got to be pedaling or is nothing. So really? Yeah, I think. Okay. Well, that's why spending is going to go do it. He's going to let us know. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited. See, but that then I go right back. That's where you go back to the canoe because if Neil's in the back of the canoe, I would literally turn around and look at him and don't. Don't do a fucking thing. Just sit there. I got this because you're right. That impedes you. Yeah. No, no, no, dude. I got this left, left, right, right, left, left and that and that's okay. So I think you and I would take all kinds. Right. It takes all kinds. That's the moral of the story here. Well, we're sports chat thread jump into their Steve. Oh, baby, damn, spending 28 years old. Happy birthday, my Spartan brother. So lots of lots of work. No, thank you, everybody in the chat. Appreciate you. Appreciate all the birthday wishes. But yeah, today, like I said, I'm not going to be here tomorrow. I'm not going too hard today. We're just me and the boys are just going to go out for Thursday night football and do a couple shots. It's not going to be. Yeah, we did this with the line just drop to plus two dollars. I got in already. Yeah, no, we did it last week. We did it the week before. This is what we do for Thursday night football. We go over to ale and nutty's. Yeah, have a good time. Like drinking just like that. There are so many different ways that I could manipulate that line. Like if I if I called the bar, hey, can you let everybody know? It's my boy's birthday, then the shots start coming. People are buying him shots and everything. I'll still be here. I'll still be here tomorrow. I wouldn't go to the gym. Let's go read the party here. I've been here already away. I'm not taking it. I've been here. I've been here off worse than then a couple shots of the bar. I'm about that action, man. I'm about that action. Oh, on the pregame show about that action. Now let's go revving Sparty is that on Caesar's Caesar Sportsbook, the official sports book of Woodward Sports. He's promo code Wilbur 1000 and your first bet. If you lose can get credit to back to your account for up to a thousand dollars in free credit. So that is out there as well. Line lines moving down though. There's there's a smart money. Smart money's going on. Spend more not making it in tomorrow. I'll take all bets. Right. Just owe you money away. I guarantee that there's one thing I do and I did it MSU too. I show up for work. I might have not shown up for class, but I show up for work. I need money. I could not afford this work. He might not be on here. Yeah, I'll be here. That's a pro that to see in one of the early lessons in this business, especially like a Neil, you know this if you go do the vaunted road trip. And especially if it's on the company's dime, I had a very wise person. Tell me kid party like a rock star, but when the bell rings in the morning, you better be there. And that's it's so spendy. No, I don't have to do for that, man, because that's the way it should be. No doubt about it. So I've always been. I just I'll go hard. I might not even go to sleep the night before, but I'll take a shower. I'll splash some water on my face. I'll be at work. I'm going to do to do it. Shout out to dirty Dr. Dee Venmo'd me two bucks for a birthday water. Hey, so anybody wants to set your blood money for a shot tonight? Yeah, there you go. That's been more X and then all right. What about this? AC says pedal bar doesn't require pedaling, bros. Is that true? No, I'd be owning a rental property sounds like a dream until you realize how much work goes into getting ready, determine a competitive rent price, market the property, schedule, the showing screen tennis, draft at the lease at a recollection, handling is requesting authentication. Whew, sound complicated? Renner's warehouse is here to take the hard work off your rental to do list. Qualify tenants, check rent collection, check maintenance coordination. You got it. 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I mean, this is real this postseason thing. You don't need me to tell you. Yeah. And it was a reminder, Neil, of how great like races are. I mean, really, like, I find myself every decade. John, it's been a decade. It's really... A decade. 2016 doesn't count. It just doesn't. I'm sorry. I don't care what anybody says, even. Oh, go to the last weekend. We had a chance. That team was fraudulent. That manager was fraudulent. Yeah. You know, I hope people are man enough to admit it now, because they certainly couldn't admit it back then. But this is real. And watching that twins game last night. Ah, shit. The twins got too. Here come the tribe, you know, or guardians as it were. Yeah. It's hysterical. Big Cleveland guys. Like how we are reminded how fun it is. Because you really do you forget because, again, it was a decade. John, as somebody, and this was an epiphany I had. I had two epiphanies about the Tigers last night. I'll give you this one before we go to the break, and I'll give you the other one when we get back from the break. Full honesty. This is our job. It's what I do for a living. It's not a hobby, everybody. We do this for the money. I found out that I didn't realize, here's how long it's been for the Tigers to be in the mix. I did not realize that the wild card round is exclusively at the higher seed stadium. Mm-hmm. I did not know that you do not get a home game if you are not the top wild card. I did not know that. Because instantly I start thinking, scuba versus verlander, give it to me. Because I will go to that game no matter what. Yeah. I will go to that game no matter what. And anyone that has a verlander jersey on, you know where I'm going with that. Yeah, already know yo, hey, you know where I'm going already though. It's crazy though. It is, but continue. He tapped out, did the exact same thing. Anyway, I digress. I don't blame him. He had a right. Some were back now. That's all I was saying. He had a right. We're back. Yeah. I did not realize that until last night. Yeah. Professional sports broadcaster. That's how long it's been. The playoffs are a whole new world than what they were the last time we were there. You know what? You can help but get excited about it because I mean you have that potential matchup. Then Bo Brisky can come in and pitch an inning in that game and start game two and three. I mean, it doesn't Bo Brisky pitch every day now. It seems like that. It's insane. But no, you know what? There's still a lot of work to be done and don't forget. They have to finish a game better than those teams because of tiebreakers and everything. But this is real. This is legitimate. This is not manufactured. This is not fake. This is a legitimate playoff race again, man. It's enjoyable. It's fantastic. Yeah. Let's do that. Let's get into it when we come back because that's what we're going to do. What's up? 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Don't don't wonder why this had someone was giving me grief like Neil this is I'm summing this up because it was way earlier in the show Neil don't you feel dumb that you gave up on the Tigers. There is not a person in this city that didn't give up on. Yes. Literally everyone. Not a person in the city and you know what? It's okay. Yeah. We don't. And for everyone that's jumping back in welcome because I will say this to the texture. No one in this city spends as much time on the Tigers as I do and any I am involved in any form and fashion radio taking the kids to practice TV when I get home working on games that I got to call all of it. I'm in it's my soundtrack a summer even if they were still 10 games under 500. That's how I roll. But anyway with all that being said Sean I just I threw my hands up in the year last night. They get down again wink wink for the people that we talked about in the swing trade market sport swing trade market. There was another opportunity to get cash yesterday. But anyway Sean just bottom line. We've never seen this before I honest to God you and I are roughly the same age. I have never seen a run like this before that came out of nowhere because even when the Lions would do it under Wayne Fonts you knew because that's the way Wayne Fonts operated. This run the Tigers are on. I'm not going to analyze it between the Lions. I've never seen this before. No and it's the opposite of 2006 because spending when you brought up team of destiny I couldn't help but think of 2006 and that was the mantra. But in 2006 it was like they got hot after Leland had that meltdown when they lost of the A's and then it was like can they hang on can they hang on and we know how that regular season ended. I mean they fell flat on their face. All they had to do was win a game. You know I mean really that's that's all they had to do and that last weekend I always said it was the worst atmosphere I've ever been in a game when they blew that six nothing lead to the Royals on the last day of the year. I was there also. But Bonderman on the mound and they literally literally crawled into the playoffs and then the switch was flipped and they pounded the Yankees those three state and straight games after losing the first game swept the A's we all remember the Maglio Homer. So this is like the shot out Milton Bradley. This is like this is like the anti 2006 because this team gave you no signs of anything whether you want to admit it or not I'm with you Neil I know there are a lot of people taking victory laps and pat themselves on the back if you just be honest with you you don't even have to be honest with me or Neil or Spenny or KG be honest with you your fandom was allowing you to say hey this is a good ball team because it wasn't anything that they were showing you that is a fact that's just truth and it's okay like you said it's okay if you're one of those guys pat yourself on the back and hey this is great I'm just a Tiger fan I'm a believer but this nobody and the way they're doing it you know and I joke that Bob Briski pictures every gosh damn day one and a half starter since the trade that it's insane sold at the devil it's insane it love every say it's not finished yet this is not I know that things are favorable for them make no mistake about it especially when you look at the remaining games yeah those three games against the white Sox have me you know all kinds of happy Baltimore don't want to see us right now I think Baltimore wants to see anybody right now really see us right I mean that's that's the crazy thing so let's let's see how it works out but this is real this is not artificial and they're probably going to be people out there they're going to play the oh you tiger fan stop it no you stop it this this is absolutely real this team has a legit shot of going and playing in the wild card it's insane I want this to be my time for my daily reminder and I'm going to do this every day throughout the rest of the year we've graduated from Havi watch to this oh this is my following statement AJ Hinch's manager of the year he's manager of the year AJ Hinch's manager of the year the best manager in Major League Baseball you cannot even convince me of anything else I don't care look at what he's doing and who he's doing it with no he's manager of the year he is manager of the year now is he manager of the year even if they don't pull it yes yes okay yes right now I want to hear last week next week next Saturday next Sunday next Monday he's manager of the year yep this is absurd what AJ Hinch is done I'll say this and maybe this is extra but I don't care because it's how I feel what AJ Hinch is doing managing this team is one of the greatest performances we've ever seen in this city if you want to boil it all down it's one of the greatest performances we've ever seen in this city the way he manages through they have one and a half starting pitchers legitimate one and a half legitimate that's real that that and and you know let's face it all of these guys okay if you look at each one of these young players coming in this guy has a two week hot span that guy has a two week hot span this guy goes away this guy comes in it is literally when he steps down it's like the the pedal bike right Neil can't Neil can't keep up work work two miles in damn it so KG comes in and says you know what I got a pound a little bit spendy comes in and says I got a pound a little bit now there are guys Riley Green's playing the role of me in the pedal bike situation I'm going to keep going I'm going to keep it no matter how hammered I am right must do this nails fucked up and that that's that's kind of like Riley Green right now I mean it's in said because I mean seriously look at all their numbers for the baseball geeks out there and you know that pay attention and that are all in watch this guy'll have a week that guy'll have a week torque will have two weeks and we'll go oh yeah he's back and then he'll come back down it's insanity and Neil that's why I'm not I'm not going to argue too much about what you just said I you can't I mean AJ Hinch has been performing witchcraft for a while now it's it's fascinating to watch and we've seen the calls that he's made are the guys he's brought up benefit this team like you said all these different guys went so Perez when he came up he's tearing the cover off the ball Valade came up and headed insane week Justin Henry Malloy came up I did so who do we have Bobby Jolie or who has buddy buddy Jolie buddy Kenny made some plays they Sean like two weeks ago they brought a picture into the game and I didn't know who he was right Hanafi was dealing like you said both I watched this team all the time yeah I didn't know who he was you're finally getting I sound like Paul right there resources resources healthy he's coming back Casey my is healthy he's coming back yeah my tarot is looked lights out it's you want you want a stat you want I was listening to the flagship today and I heard this stat come on Sam hit us what a stay since y'all start break Kydor Mintero's got a lower E.R.A. than Corbin Burns who started the all-star game in front of Tarex Google by the way but anyway I digress it's witchcraft I don't want to explain it it's more fun to just ride the lightning 100 there's no in our job sometimes we have to sit up here and try to make sense of the non sensible I don't want to I don't want to I mean let's acknowledge that this shouldn't be happening but I'm with you I'm just gonna you know I'm gonna sit back and enjoy this you know I I miss having the season tickets you know we had season tickets for years my son went away to school I knew my daughter and my wife had no interest in going to the games with me so we got rid of them my gosh going down there on a on a daily basis during some of those runs was phenomenal and we're back to that point and I hope hope being the key enough operative word that subsequently that aura comes back that that that atmosphere comes back because I'm gonna tell you if you haven't experienced it yet that atmosphere at Comeric's nothing like it they're honest to God there really isn't and consider the source okay baseball's amazing it is it is bunting I get wood over looking at bunting haha why they red white and blue bunting hanging from you know the different decks and stuff yeah I mean you get legitimate wood it's it's a special time it's fantastic and you know I think back to that era of kids in KG you were a younger man spending you were a younger man I mean for a lot of kids around here they grew up with while it's October of course the tigers are gonna be at home at Comerica right I mean those were your formative years and they were in 11 and 12 and 13 and briefly in 14 when anybody with half a brain in their head knew that the run was over but I digress but it looks like those days are here again and and there's no reason now at this point more coming up about this later there's no reason at this point Neil for me to think that this is going to take a big step back this is a team that's going to be in the mix I think for the foreseeable future and that that is what has been more excited than anything no no doubt and the time will come Sean and we we always do this on this show you guys you guys come to like it and expect it the day the season ends I take a snapshot of the financials and where they sit and everything like that we take a look and we sit down and see but that is down the road I caught I got caught up yesterday with my little alavela loyalist group and to be to be fair I got a couple of them reached out to me and said hey hey hey there's only one in this group that are enjoying the fruits of alavela's liver and it ain't not so my so Griffin and Griffin Jack I'm sorry I lumped you in I owe you an apology for that that's just calling it's it's real like that that is it is it is real to see some people out there it is it is almost like the iron curtain yeah like really it's just the stuff that they're putting out there is somehow applauding alavela it's mind-boggling to me it's it's it's insanity no no oh my goodness gracious I mean come on if he was still here they would have never developed into what they are starting to develop into hell no here do you know what I was I was talking to somebody who's like a charter member of that club and and I was literally saying that is like patting Matt Millen on the back for drafting Calvin Johnson yeah essentially yeah it was so wait a second let me get this straight you sucked you got high picks high picks usually are good not always usually are good and I'm supposed to applaud you drafting drafting a 6-4 receiver who can run a 4-3 and jump 45 inches whoa great great call there man and if I may add to that Matt Millen wasn't allowed to have the trades that alavela had yeah alavela made things worse by his befoterie with his deals he signed hobby bias period end of story right they were desperate period end of story is last hurrah you are banished forever well you know where you'll never be banished and you can come in to get a good haircut it's lady jane's oh cuz awesome is what a guy can be a guy and get an amazing haircut kids are growing up around here I love it relax and let little lady jane's tale to stylist 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defies logic what's going on over our past 25 to five games yeah best team in mlb since july since then yep first winter record since 2016 um that's that's how it's the house in baseball that's exactly what what that's that's that's what grabs me somehow with this staff that you just talked about the how christmas like i said it before i will say it again christfatter is the most important coach in sports like the most witch doctor the most important he's not going to call she's a witch doctor in sports any sport he should be the highest paid bench coach in the mlb you need to lock him down for if he did this with no mice with no ulsen with tareek school and kyder montaro and three bull pen days for two months yeah i used to say i used to laugh when bow briskie came in the game yeah i full disclosure if you guys got a full disclosure about the tigers i'll lead the charge on that full disclosure i used to laugh when bow briskie came in the game laugh and the dude pops up throwing a hundo now yeah found this velocity caten corners it's insane it kyder montaro is better since he all-star break than corbin burns who started the all-star game and guess what they're gonna square up on friday night and i can't wait all damn right it's culture again and i know people in this town you know what we we almost take the word in vain you know we're willing to throw that around here again but you can't tell me you know we just had a front row seat to Dan Campbell almost single handedly changing the most toxic culture in in to try sports history okay and maybe all of sports okay you gotta trust me when i say it i saw it up close and personal for 20 years man here we go again was real it wasn't just the fans it was the guys in that room in neil i tell the story all the time it was the last year of matt patristian lomas and i are walking out of the locker room and it's like late october and it's already a funeral and we look at each other and we go we got two and a half months more of this there's two and a half months and and it was over and you knew it wasn't coming back okay in this baseball team had that vibe whether we want to admit it or not but you bring in all these young guys and if you want to make the argument they're too young and dumb to know that they should know that that what they don't know if you want to make that argument go right ahead but i think finally neil telling your boy listen you aren't doing anything around here but by and saying we're gonna run with you guys where can where can you take us are you kidding me they're having fun they like each other they they know that there's a belief in them and they want to go out and prove it each and every day and it's it's been beautiful to watch it really has been well we're sports chat thread jump into there get your thoughts out there um 40 gumball neil did harris actually buy at the deadline my faith in him not having an ego and coming in replacing the manager has also increased my faith in him and yeah they traded they traded flarity trayswini was a borderline throw in bro broder put it out there he put a tweet out there yesterday that it was just trayswini for flarity straight up that's a win for the tiger for this season yes yeah for this season but loronzo's murder in the ball and double a man those dodgers prospects and and the deal or excuse me at a ball with west michigan and i did a couple of uh west michigan games uh a couple years ago as a matter of fact and they were playing the lunes and i got a chance to talk to some of the lunes people now they were the dodgers affiliate at the time and he said we do things the dodgers do things differently with their with their a-ball guys we take our 19 year olds and throw them in there and they sink or swim and they're in the organization or they're out of the organization yeah they they and look they have that kind of talent where they can do that it's just to see what he's doing is great and bodes well for the future but i don't care about that right now i don't just the difference the trayswini thing is real and look you guys know where i sat with hobby bias you guys know that but the bottom line is this when you plug trayswini into this lineup and the casuals will look at it and say well he's hitting 225 you know hobby was hitting 184 he's nearly 200 points higher in ops all right 200 points higher in ops and this is what i was driving at you and i'm not taking credit for this so don't say it's that it's the truth but it is the truth everybody when you take away the worst everyday player in the history of baseball and put anybody else in their body anybody else anybody else anybody your team will be better yeah and it's a totally different world when you play games with 27 outs instead of 24 that's fine it's a totally different world john weaning talk about the defense no defense is upgrade as well when you take out a negative defender who has the worst everyday ops in the history you see what i'm saying Sean and people like no Neil you put all this on hobby i'm telling we don't realize that it's a clown base it is it's a cloud that hangs and and every guy in the room knows it right i mean it is it is a cloud that hangs whether does this group of kids look different now than they did four weeks ago do they look different listen and and you brought this up the other day spenny listen to the tv broadcast listen to the dugout the chat you hear well how many times you heard a major league baseball dugout on a tv broadcast never on a way game never have you heard that in your life you tell me this culture is not different since that bum was shot into space you'll never convince me the numbers back it up 17 and 7 since he left bam that's that's all you need you know here's the thing and we we were talking about this a few days ago Neil like with with with revisiting the Rams Lions deal okay LA's goal in making that deal both deals was to win the championship they felt that Matthew Stafford was was a piece that was missing they obviously felt that they couldn't do it with Jared Goff they want a championship that's a win for the the Rams it is whether whether you want to admit it or not i don't care but obviously it's been a very big win for the lions as well and i think that's kind of the the scenario going on with this deal right now because i'm with you and i saw Broder's tweet and i i'm feeling what you're saying if the Dodgers win a world series and Jack Flaherty helps put them over the pump they can go like this yeah yep we're cool we're we're styling but if both those guys do what they appear to be doing the next few years again we might have to you win win situation and and that's exactly where i'm at with this right now i i don't know how good Sweeney's going to be moving forward i like everybody else i thought he's going to be a throw it but i see what he's doing for this team and he's being impactful for this team and i'm excited about a cute little prospect and here's the difference between the cute little prospect and the alavila era where so many people were were just worshiping him i can't tell you how many times i would say to people you know google's your friend you can you can look and see what these guys are doing at double a you can look and see what these guys are are doing in high a you can and a lot of these guys that we were told to be excited about really weren't doing much well now these guys are actually doing some things so you get that added bonus here and that's what's huge to me so wait a second we're in a real playoff race where the tigers legitimately have a chance something i wouldn't say a week ago mind you if we were sitting here a week ago i would have looked at people and gone okay it's a cute little run pinch a little cheeks but you know this isn't a playoff team stop it anybody who said that a week ago you got to take it back now i mean this is real this is legitimate we've got a week and a half to go and the tigers have a damn good chance to get back to the playoffs uh Woodward sports chat thread larena rios kneel is becoming another flannel with the arm movement uh this from kneel in the chat larena rios is becoming another cat spot in the chat crazy clown oh yeah but kneel said cry there was better and they were nine games under with cry there cry there are 59 at bats crazy clown yeah 59 at bats i will tell you this cry there was the bridge for them to go right yeah was it not better than havi yeah it wasn't a lot better but it was still better because at least he wasn't a negative defender right yeah he has an excuse because he's a younger player havi's been in this league for god knows how long yeah so crazy clown try again yeah shout out to uh Kendrick smith in the chat $10 super chatty so until the birthday boy get cash appreciate you and shout out to mike k shop if i bucks for the the morning uh morning oh he said there's for the morning get right tomorrow so there you grab i'm gonna grab some coffee from sad with coffee room yeah all right there you go all right let's do this let's take the break um i got to give you my other epiphany it's not all positivity here we got played in all this and i'm gonna tell you how i'm gonna tell you how we talk some lead tees and elite tees all right you know what we haven't had a little rain around here in a few weeks kneel rule bringing in the rain cloud right now it looks like it was gonna rain this morning rain on that tiger payoff parade no it's got nothing to do with the tigers it's got everything to do with us tell them about premier pet supply right premier pet supplies hands down michigan's best pet store same prices in all the conveniences online a big box retailers one major difference their family and locally owned and operated for over 30 years 60 brands of food and nutrition experts to help you same day local curbs at home delivery premier pet supply give your pet the best www dot premier pet supply dot 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for about a month and a half tarek school will let everybody know he's one of the best pitchers in baseball but how many people were paying attention because we were wrapped up in what we knew was going to be a special season for michigan we were wrapped up in what we knew was going to be a special season for the lions and now it's like that sports plate well i gotta have a big dose here i gotta give me another serving in the tigers yeah i thought at first i just had that you know obligatory all right i gotta eat my vegetables here's a celery stickers i care nope i gotta grab another serving in tigers i got a big old serving of michigan state big old serving at this that and the other thing and that's where we're at right now and i i'm not complaining man i'm gonna gorge this is great absolutely ten years maybe a decade a decade a decade a decade the whole structure the playoffs changed since we've been gone i didn't even know it that's what's wild you know the worst feeling is i so i was at that i don't know people remember this i was at that uh last game it was a sunday afternoon when when the tigers got swept by the orials and it was a gray miserable day in the worst part about that day to me kneel is you knew that the run was over you knew it everybody there whether they wanted to admit it or not i'm convinced at the exact same time everybody knew do you know what lion game was happening that day and you guys you guys will remember this game when i bring it to you at about the exact same time that the tigers were being eliminated by the orials swept by the orials you saw the herd walking out of fordfield like this do you know what game it was Jim Schwartz being propped up on his players shoulders because he asked him to he asked them to we found that out later what it is and that exact moment the tigers were being eliminated the horde of fans were coming out of fordfield with their heads hung because buffalo beat the lions on a last second field goal and we had to watch Jim Schwartz being carried off the field because he begged his players to do it like wow what a miserable afternoon what a what a miserable afternoon 10 years later man my if things changed uh what were sports chad thread jump into their uh anakin says uh the homecoming game in parade is tomorrow where do we remember where anakin goes to school at no he's uh he's a high school kid that by i think he watches on his lunch break that boy anakin there you go shout out to him fuck that class but yeah i didn't say that but really it's not that important just do a good just do a great and just move on just keep it pushing how about it it's a shamp it's more than likely not gonna use it yeah do enough just do enough just get by survive in advance uh shawn had uh this larena shawn has a great face for scaring kids on halloween would you agree with that oh 100 percent absolute right there you're gonna scare me oh yeah when i when i get fired up absolutely and my my kids they the kids have told me they're like all all my friends are like afraid of you until like they start talking to you and they realize what a goofball you've done everything but when i get passionate about something yeah that it gets it gets burrowed down and i you know i get pissed off man yeah uh next segment by the way we're gonna do rest in peace Tuesday i don't have thursday as a matter of fact so don't don't forget that i got i got a great college football one uh that we can do all right here's the deal um i want to talk about how we got played elaborate and it involves the tigers but it doesn't involve the tigers okay all right soul ownership everybody everybody's on board right here's number one is friday night the biggest tigers game in the last decade clearly clearly well you got to have apple tv to watch it that one's on apple tv no way no they've done some games on apple this year a few yeah once that game when i don't have apple tv yard all right all right but it's gonna buffer and stuff like that but you know that going on that's not where i go yeah you got no to spots no no i know but you you know what i'm saying here though yeah you talk about the masses all right that game's on apple tv uh you ever know you see how everyone's hype about this and you see twitter shawn you know everybody's watching i was told they're not going to do the bally's anymore remember how that when they came back they said yeah you can get bally's but you got to upgrade the the package that's what i was told by people right can we confirm in the chat i believe that we can't we do not have bally's because it was like fifty dollars more honor you had to go to like the premium package to get it or you get the bally's app yeah those were your two choices that's what we're probably going to do for red wings in pistons yep so my friends told me they went and got the bally's app in the end they won i heard it sucks though not it doesn't in the end they won yeah if i like can we admit we took an L or true but i mean it was really going to pay for a bad tiger's product they're in a fucking playoff fund now it's different and it's like we said Neil just like the streaming services for these NFL games owning a rental property sounds like a dream until you realize how much work goes into getting it ready determine a competitive rent price market the property schedule the showing screen tenants drop the lease at recollection handle maintenance request maintain communication who sound complicated runners warehouse is here to take the hard work off your rental to-do list qualify tenants check rent collection check maintenance coordination you got it go to runners warehouse dot com for a free rental analysis to find out how much your home can rent for or call 303 974 9444 because from now on the only thing you need on your to-do list is to call runners warehouse it's time for today's lucky land horoscope with victoria cash life's gotten mundane so shake up the daily routine and be 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the goal it's just uh you know uh alex stuart f valley but i've had zero issues with the app when i subscribe i i didn't have a problem with the app either uh these 411 bring back passports it's that that was that was the same even that was 15 bucks a month back then right right it's funny how and i couldn't agree with you more spending it like people will cry and i'm not doing that yes you will yes you have an addiction that's why you're watching this right yeah you're addicted that like seriously we're not charging anything but you wouldn't be here if you weren't addicted to your sports teams that's that's the reality of the situation they know that and they give you a little dose it's like the dealer the dealer on on the corner man hey kneel this one's on me man i got you making him in the woodwood sports chat says it's still on the radio for free my dad sits out in the garage and listens to the radio that's how he takes in the tigers yeah 100% he's still he's still in there um i wanted i want him to i told him it's not that hard like i can get it on your laptop and we can put it on the tv outside from dream beast so he's a man of principle yeah the older folks like if it buffers then you're gonna have to refresh you got to close like three ads and then click on he's like i'm not doing yeah because he's a man of principle listen i grew up in the era of doing that like and kneel i'm sure you can attest to this i grew up in the era where especially like a a lazy sunday afternoon you had the old transistor radio on and you're listening and earning harwell and all that stuff i i'm just going to speak for me times have changed for me man i need to see it yeah like i i really i i need to see it no disrespect to the old schools uh guys out there like spending your dad or anything but like i need to see it now now i if it's on if i can watch it someplace whether it be on my dumb phone or on bally itself man i i want to see the games now you know it's different kneel like guys like you and i if we have a broadcast or something i might i might hit the satellite up and go ah you know what i'm going to listen to this Oregon game on the radio while i'm coming back from a game or something like that that's totally different but i don't have a vested interest in that okay when my teams are on man i want to watch it i'm going to find a way to watch it no i i feel you hundred percent danny raxter in the chat scotch in a cigar and the tigers on the radio that's all that man needs and i bet when they're when and now is he drinking the 18 year probably yeah i think he might have finished that this is the the the cherry of the 12 year okay that's his that is really very that that cast is very very underrated he really is shawn i've told you this before i've told mr raxter this before i am not tough enough to drink scotch either mine some of the more hot peppery rise i haven't been through enough he doesn't need to i'm not i'm not grizzled enough i haven't seen enough you guys like you mr raxter you guys are better men than me you're tougher just give me one cube i just want one cube and just give me my my low ball glass just nice nice and smooth you get used to it it's an acquired thing i told him that like 60 you'll be drinking scotch yeah you will yeah i just don't think i'm tough enough you'll get there i'm not tough enough man we can put you like kneel you can come over and we we can have some training sessions if you want yeah i mean i'm not above it i mean you have to work at something if you want to be great at it you just gotta use it no seriously one cube one cube i'm i'm fine man just sip it right it's it's all good you're already halfway there you're bourbon connoisseur you're already halfway there it's yeah i don't even like drinking just straight liquor like i i'm a shot man i do shots or i'll sip a beer i'll sip yeah you're not you're not to that exit in the highway no i that's that but the scotch is that's yeah that's another 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we're definitely in on that uh willward sports chat thread uh dnce and tea uh first i was on woodford reserve now i'm on bar chest i like woodshop reserve chat shout out bar chest i like them too i had didn't have craziest night at any slancing that i experienced was it was michigan michigan state game any slancing on halloween day so oh i remember that there was more people any slancing that i'd have ever seen in my entire life it was an insane amount of people that was the covid year yeah yeah no no that was didn't they didn't they played didn't they play michigan on halloween in 2020 yeah i think it was 2017 yeah okay on that time yeah and we we lost unfortunately but there was my uncle he does his tailgate right outside the international center he's done it every year for the past like 30 years with his buddies he went to state with and so i was there all night or all day partying getting hammered drink and he gave me a fifth of woodford reserve shout out mongoro well gave me a fifth of woodford reserve to take home for the night and i drank all of that before we even went out because there's a part i was living on gunson and there's a party like two two houses down for mine so i walked down there drank basically the whole fifth then went out that it was i was shambles uh uh chase niel termiana burbin for the first time with the varchess shout out varchess so there's that one out there as well the real people out there in the streets everybody yeah real people in the streets all right we ready to put some people in the in the coffin shamblesian let's do it all right it is time everybody rest in peace Tuesday but on a thursday i love that sound oh it's the best i shawn i love that sound it just reminds me a yester year it really does and watching that guy all right spencer axter you bet and lead off yeah yeah i'll bet lead off um i am putting somebody special in the coffin we tapped into it a little bit yesterday but i am going to put in the coffin the profit for johnson and johnson baby oil titties after denny was taken away they're losing out on a big customer like that and that is a big chunk of their profit but no more realistically i am going to put i'm going to do it i'm going to put the orials in the coffin oh wait a minute you get this all two with those to make the playoffs those don't get in there but they're shot to make to win the world series is gone they're not winning the world series they're pitching staff it's not good enough they had a chance to improve it at the deadline they held on to their assets and now they're not good enough if you see the Yankees in the alcs they're shelling your pitching staff the orials are not their pitching staff is not good enough to win a world series this year like i said they'll probably still make the playoffs maybe unless they really go without the template they're not winning the division obviously and they're not winning the world series they had a shot but they didn't do enough to improve the pitch john i'm stunned that they clutch their pearls win oh you could have made the tigers choke on an offer yeah and got scuba and been the favorite to win it is and you know what makes it even worse along the lines of what you are just saying it's not exactly a secret that brian cashman puts no premium on starting pitching and conversely it's not exactly a secret that's why the Yankees haven't won a world series in many years and oh by the way the tigers who dave domsrowski put it in the slander on dave domsrowski's name shame on you people that's a story for a different day but it's no coincidence that dave domsrowski had a pitching staff and the tigers smoked the Yankees every time they played them oh six eleven twelve that's just what they did that pitching staff was better than the Yankee staff and unfortunately unfortunately kneel that was the final straw if they went and got tarek scuba i like their chances a lot just on the premise that you could fire scuba out there against the Yankees a couple times and it'll put tension and you only got to win two games you got it and that that but by that's it so uh spending that's a good one because they especially against the Giants no they just look really bad shout out to coach ritchie in the chat so many of them over some drinks and spend he's lining up now i heard Spencer not at work tomorrow's down down to tend to win as a matter of fact you can draw your money away i'll show up to work uh kg you ready put somebody in the coffin yeah um i was struggling with this one um i guess i will go ahead and put the Miami Dolphins organization i mean it's it's bad and we done talked about it you know i'm not in a position to tell anybody what to do with a how they provide for their family you know but they're not going to get to a back for the foreseeable future is what was reported and i just don't know how you recovered from this as a Miami Dolphins organization man and do we know Mike McDonald to be somebody that can coach beyond that i'm not sure but i haven't seen it yet i haven't seen it yet and i just don't like the direction that they're headed in they haven't a great offense but defensively they were still working on some things but your franchise quarterback goes down and this may literally be the end of his career where do you pivot from here i don't know i i just don't see it in the cars from Miami anytime so Sean to is gonna come back he's gonna come back and play you think so i 100 think that he's going to come back and play i think it's going to be a while it's it's gotta be a while it's he needs the chance it's gotta be a while i i yeah i don't i don't think he's done done but let's be honest with every hit he's one step closer to being done done i mean that's that's just the reality of the situation do do you think they want him done because of how they structured if he retires he doesn't get the full pay well if he doesn't spear people in the pee pads like you yeah he got more how to slap her away anyway it's no no like it's if he if he medically can't play anymore he's not medically cleared he gets his full guarantee no if he's medically if he's medically cleared and he retires then he then he foregoes the guarantee which isn't going to happen yeah there's no way they make yeah there's no way he's not mentally medically cleared by a dolphins doctor yeah they're going to medically clear him but like we talked about it's the future that you know now they're clear but they could medically clear him and if he's medically cleared they could cut him yeah oh i was listening to a podcast about that today you got to pay you got to pay off his 26 salary and then just his potential bonus for 27 but the 27 salary becomes a void but didn't they look horrible if they do that that's a business it is business it is show for instance show business and Miami dolphins have been on to do bad business ask my man's the DC for the Vikings yeah so there you go i think he's going to play again this year i can believe i can see it but i would not be surprised with Stylor Thompson keeps them hanging in there he will play at some point you got to think about life after football do i understand the money is life i get it people are glossing over that Sean but you know this you're around teams you travel with teams it is an alternate reality that they live in this is his life true until it's not date is his life it's him it's not that he'll deal with that see but he doesn't know what he doesn't know what he says yeah absolutely yeah he doesn't know what he doesn't know i understand why he would do it is just like at this point it's been so many of them he is literally the job it best at the quarterback position i'll tell you what i would do it i would play so would i i'm coming back and unless i medically clear scrambled right medically told not to i'm doing it but i'm setting my family up as much as possible i'm playing every minute of that i get it in 71 million dollars as as the NFL you're playing with fire now because you already had the tomorrow handling incident don't let alone he goes out there doesn't slide gets hidden ahead again and seizes out permanently so that's all i'm saying i'm not in a position to tell him what to do you just got to start thinking about life after football at some point because there is a life after football you know even talking to so many guys that retired you know especially like i i've had some conversations no names mentioned with guys that have had you know 78 different knee surgeries like like while you're doing it that their entire focus is how do i get back on the field how do i get on the field and then when it's done they were like how was i such a dumbass right i mean really that that's it that's a real meal i'm but we we talk about brains you can replace a knee you can get a robotic knee you can't get a brain i think i i think the overall sentiment the overall sentiment remains unchanged you know they they don't know it at the time and how miserable their life might be afterwards right and then when they're in it they're going oh my gosh why did i do that right it's amazing how that works out too many guys i've had that conversation with it's sad yeah all right sean who you're putting in the coffin who rest in peace you know what it's not a person it's an idea and um christopher illich got killed rightfully so oh wait about two and a half years ago when he came out in april early april of 2022 and he said something along these lines i don't remember the exact comment but he said something along the lines of the rebuild is over 100 over right he did and rightfully so there were memes there were mocking segments etc etc do you know what i'm putting in the coffin today two and a half years later the line's rib i mean tiger's rebuild fucking rebuild die die forever go away i think this team i'm not i'm not right any checks for future championships or anything but i think this team has really legitimately turned the corner for the reasons that we spoke about earlier and i think this is going to be a viable viable competitor in the central division moving forward and i hope you aren't all mocking me for the next two and a half years like we mocked christopher illich but the rebuild rest in peace wow no actually don't rest in peace die forever and stay dead wow there it is everybody i hope it is i hope it is all right we got uh we're lined up to talk to ryan paulter coming up in just a couple of minutes for the picks um let me let me rock this one out uh official the florida state seminars get back in the casket yeah you've got out of the casket for whatever reason right you're back in the casket that's a wrap they are in fact not back you know what they were yeah they got a quarterback for a second yeah and then when he was taken away they were taken away back it is over and it can't be saved and in a few weeks we get the berry dovo yeah i can't wait i can't wait i got them all lined up yeah hey what's constant that what's constant yeah that uh you're like the only people without a transfer portal person is navy army air force and clemson that's the dumbest thing ever mind-boggling especially for a guy that that you know seem to be so forward it's just like yeah our name is just lock this is in the lord right i'm putting i'm putting my stake in the ground for that like come on man it's really really out and now it's just stubbornness yeah it is it's just it's just pure stubbornness it's it's okay to say hey i made a mistake yeah i mean sometimes it's the most hard thing to say for people i mean listen i'm a man of god i'm also a man of science i'm also a man of business yeah dabbo you're doing bad business trying to stop it even caught up to save me yeah yeah i was also it was like like this one that happened to iso we saw this one finally using the controls up to everyone so yep all right let's do this let's uh let's take the break 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All right keeping a push in big d energy woodward sports network neo-rule shomba lesion the legend in for dmec we have k.e.g. Spencer raxter all of you in the chat it is thursday you guys know what that means the Feldman Chevrolet pig skin pick them cup rolls on and as always we're joined a sales manager at Feldman Chevrolet he is our guy ryan paulter. ryan what's up man hey spanny make sure you get them a lot of sorokies sauce okay oh it's so i do that the sorokies sauce is underrated all right ryan we have the sorokies sauce is the whole thing it is the whole thing and the biscuits too and if we're being other than the biscuits are that yeah for sure hundred percent yep all right ryan we we have so i don't want to call it controversy because it's not you reached out it felt desperate i'm gonna say to me it felt desperate but but uh but i'm i'll defer to you you had a late hour change to the picks this morning you sent me over a text and shawn he's he's wise in and up he was starting to he's taking the points and he's he always he's kind of he's kind of delousing and going in and taking some of the trashier games that you have to take to win from time to time but ryan we we have a late hour picks and and spanny you have the picks on the graphic i'm sure pay no attention to the graphic you're about to see so ryan break it down which way we go up here you guys there yeah yeah you got you there yeah you froze but we can still hear you hello yeah we got you hello yeah going once going twice oh just at the moment of truth uh it's amazing he built out he's back we got him back all right that's what i said he won't go to parachute he pulled the parachute all right ryan what how are we working this here i'll write it down as you go yes sir so let's start wars working right ryan we got you he looks a little delayed yeah i think he's delayed he's on there he is on there okay originally he had and you'll love this shawn this is this is as dirty as it gets ryan give me a thumbs up if you can hear us all right he originally had ucla plus the 24 and a half against lsu oh he's back with flair that's look at that is that a frozen image again all right yeah he's back all right holy smokes i guess my i guess my original picks were so bad that i froze the frick all right okay ryan bring okay which way we go in here i'll write this down as we go okay so it was one of those weeks where you see a bunch of big numbers and you go man there's no way and you fall in love with those picks but then you start looking at them and thinking about them where you're like no because the games you want to pick they're they're they're just not good spreads right so i was seeing all these big numbers and i'm like man there's no way but then i sat here and i was thinking about them like no there's a way for sure i need to just do the over-under so i'm going to go over-under on the two college games uh ucla at lsu over 56 and a half okay and then miami at uk over 42 and a half and those are the two college games i'm sticking to my roots of doing two college games one being a big 10 sec game one being god knows what i'm doing and another being an nfl game and that game is the chargers at the stealers i just think the charger's defense can can shut the stealers off and down okay and uh and and i think it was a minus one or this plus one and a half right so plus one and a half so i'm on the jim harbaugh train choo-choo all right so so so so it is right vaulter joining us at felman chevallay pig skin pick-em-cup you are three and three you're tied for first with d-mack uh i'm dragging behind i'm one in five which i'm excited to see what mountain west game you're taking well asking you shall receive here we go sports that's my way are are you ready spenny here we go as a matter of force i will take a friday night washington state minus the twelve against san jose state it's a spot game san jose state we're pro san jose state on this show it is we are we are however i've shown in the past like last year when fred they went to fresno and they were an eight point favorite you know what happens there this is similar right here they're three and oh they're vibing right now i hate to do this to the to the san jose state folks but i don't choose these games these games choose me kooks you're gonna pound them thank they're gonna the kooks are gonna thank you thank you uh let's stay in college let's stay in the mountain west yeah thank you when the when the world around you is burning rainbow warriors you go back to basics and you go to what you know all right midnight hawaii minus seven and a half northern aiowa coming out to the island which will be a incredible experience for them but one they are not prepared for hawaii will get right coming off the loss at sam houston state yes hawaii is a very volatile team they absolutely are so i am going back to my roots and the lions if you're a good football team these are the games you win you win this game and they win this game so we're in there so ryan i'm gonna pencil myself in three and oh okay are you lock are you locking are you locking the three and oh i'm locking it in right now okay but but ryan you know this man when when things are struggling you go to your roots and i'm going by i'm i hate to do this to you guys ryan but i'm doing it smart display no it it is it's smart you can do it to me yep get back on shot we have john we haven't had the pleasure of meeting but i am a horrible oddsman i was horrible last year so that's where the fade ryan segment comes in now i'm three and three this year but it's super early and i'll say something stupid and make stupid picks then i'll end up with a losing wrap at some point here and we'll see all the the the chatters go crazy for me well speaking of that ryan uh dnce and t poll will ryan go oh and three full fade one and two or two and one no need to have a three and oh option so the people are well what is cesar's sports books putting on those ads well i don't know they'll they'll have to find that and as always thank you for that reminder all of our spreads come courtesy of cesar's sports book the official sports book he is a pro as a pro movement as a broadcaster he's he's showing more strides than the picks no but ryan seriously no those picks are horrible we always appreciate you coming out my friend what do you guys got going on over there at Feldman Chevrolet you know it's the same thing man you know these uh actually we got a little special going on silverados um we we got to move some units here so stop on by see us uh to give you some more horrible picks that you can bet against that we can go through the whole every game and i'll tell you what i would pick and then you just pick the other pick and there you go see you're out here helping people with you're out here helping people with their down payments on on your own man i appreciate it damn straight i can get your back ryan i can get your back we got my daughter chevy bolt uh from Feldman you guys are uh top of the line no no doubt about that so i'm gonna vouch for that all day absolutely we appreciate that Neil's been doing business with everyone there's except spanny we don't love spanny because we love no ryan we appreciate you man we'll talk to you soon yeah thank you guys yeah for sure all right there he is ryan paulter everybody sales manager at Feldman Chevrolet um mike g after bouncing back from a loss to michigan fresno state could run the mountain west they could they absolutely got a good team they do as does arkansas state apparently all right shawn you ready to talk some college ball when we come back we got to get into it man you're here did you hear kg no i didn't say anything i'm just it uh huh yeah it's the truth it's the truth i was told there'd be no drop off i ain't saying all right i would not recall there was no drop off in the lion's pre-game show i know that that is sports sports my self-fiction we 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spending off for more products the more people that's exactly what lestanford did by adding lestanford bo GMC the same great service the customers have come to know and trust i'm wobord avenue just south of nine mile check out lestanford and dearborn a day and find the brand you want at lestanford.com lestanford together let's ride all right we're back at it big d energy what would sports network my guy shawn bellegion in for d mac you'll be seeing you'll be seeing a lot of us together here uh on the show as the season rolls on every monday as a matter of fact i'm happy to do it here with my friend shawn bellegion can i get a shout out there yeah my buddy mark up in nagani in the up is a huge big d energy viewer listener and he said hey it's great to see on there with niel let them know i'm tapped in every day appreciate that you love the mark lovely up love the up the colors are pride and full rage right now right it's just it's a different world up there man i i love every second of it but up in nagani prop smart appreciate you now absolutely the drives don't enjoy that drive there is a flying option i guess you could fly into hoden or whatever i would do that it does they're really flying to the up i would it's mark cat you there there's the airport mark kettin and there's one in iron mountain how much is a flight to the up whatever it is it's worth not driving eight hours it depends what time it depends what time of the season it is like you know you if you go in the winter time more than likely you're gonna have to find iron mountain and then get yourself a car from there but um yet i've flown i've flown to mark cat it's the the biggest thing up there is like when you get to when you get to mark cat it's like a 30 minute flight it's about six hours right if you're driving the car you look at the map and it doesn't look like like mark cat and hoden or that far apart until you make that drive and it is it's just it just goes like this man it's crazy but man i love it up there don't don't get me started i love it up there i love it i love it i made that drive a couple times it's long by myself i got three coming this fall three three three trips to the up this fall so i love every second of that's long all right but any uh pause um but yeah so let's uh let's talk to college football uh my good friend Sean Bellisian Heisman voter uh as it were just to know so you know the qualifications uh let's go revving Sparty Neil are you going to get that special bottle out for the big top 25 matchup between Illinois and Nebraska let me say this Nebraska's back they are they for real mighty back let me say this Sean and you know this and you'll back me up if i could have bet that Illinois would be ranked after last weekend i would have bet on it because you knew they were if you think the rankings are real if a top 25 matchup fires you up then you're gullible yep it's manipulated it's fake it's regazy it's created sand plan a second favorite quarterback of all time who's that Dylan real yeah because he wants to be Patrick Mahomes back all right well then let's go all in Illinois Nebraska Sean let's break it down we'll take your calls jump in the chat right now what are you looking for Nebraska it's back they're back they look legitimate and a lot of it starts with the quarterback play i mean this is a guy that so many people talked about i my guess is he didn't have a choice in regards to where he was going to college i think dad wanted him to to go to it but Spenny and i were talking about this before the show this is the funny thing about playing the win-loss game right okay because whether people want to admit it or not you know what yeah michigan states off to a good start but all of a sudden you know what in one hand you look at it kg no disrespecting you say to yourself maybe that michigan game is winnable yeah maybe that maybe that michigan game is is winnable then the flip side to that you go okay i had an automatic w next to that Illinois game there i had an automatic w next to that indiana game and maybe you don't feel so good about that i think this will be a huge test for Illinois believe it or not Lincoln Nebraska is one of the best atmospheres for college football i think one man's opinion kneel rule i think it's too too much this weekend i like Nebraska in this one because they're back they are back because they're back hundred percent they're back foreign hoskers never left six and oh seven and oh after they win at indiana ohio state you told me that sharon moors a better coach than ryan day i never said i never said make them eight no ucla their bums nine and oh at usc ten and oh around thanksgiving time back back michigan says mse will walk in and arbor as the favorite yeah at this point i don't know i don't know at this point i don't know well i mean you have to remember vegas is going to sucker the slappies and yeah i mean that's true but let them go out there and lose the miller moss in the void yeah yeah yeah back to back to back we spent you know this this uh that was one of the dirty secrets during the dantonio era go go back and look at ms you against the spread against michigan i mean it was it was gold every year i mean that that was a a gift from heaven it really was because they were taken advantage of of the fans that were just gonna jump on and just go well it's michigan and and and do that and michigan state against the spread in that series for a long time has been huge but um well that's a coin flip game i don't know if we're gonna be the favorites but it'll be a quick yeah i i think they'll try to take advantage of the michigan fans that's my guess well i'm glad you brought up michigan so let's let's talk about michigan as a matter of fact right now kg i welcome you into the discussion i'm here doesn't this get the feel of it here's the vibe i'm getting from from michigan fans from your people yep i almost feel like michigan fans expect them to lose this game i mean there's no real signs indicating that we will win this game just being honest like last week was a struggle you have u_s_c_ looks good too yeah and i understand that but it's hard to do the trap and still you guys can we're still dealing with u_s_c_ it's a huge point not reggie bush i get it i get it carol u_s_ i forgot everyone is back i forgot that there is a path for michigan to win this game if they can effectively run the ball in this game but i mean the defense is looking much improved from last year for u_s_c_ and miller moss has been playing good ball you got to just call it spay to spay but i just i don't know man it was tough the the way that arkansas state backdoor covered last week it really didn't feel like a blowout victory like it really in actuality was and just the questions on offense i i really don't know what's going to go on with this offense with alex orgy actually being the starting quarterback it didn't look as great last week but anything's better than davis warren at this point but i mean it's it's a it's a pickle game it really is well how good is u_s_c_ defense i mean and i don't think this is the week to test them i mean as you mentioned and i'm not dissing you on this the fact that they're even using the word defense tells me what a giant change it was because they haven't had a defense the last couple we the last couple years i i don't know if this week is the test to find out okay is is u_s_c_ ready to sit back at the big boy table i really don't because let's face it the limitations of michigan michigan's only going to be able to do so much in this game they're going to load the box is going to be a long day for alex orgy um they're going to have to find ways to pass the ball i'm still not but when we boil this all down i'm not buying u_s_c_ stack in the box you know what i'm saying you didn't buy texas whooping our ass either so i mean i'm just saying i was told coming off a national championship here we go here we go man listen i had texas as a lost in my season predictions i can't you guys just did that as an emotional hedge no you did that as an emotional hedge no you did that so you can get your shit off but anyway that's emotional yes man you sacrificed a get right bet in order to come in here and talk about that's different that's about business listen i was told they're defending national champions you're with the don your record is so great you would be willing to sacrifice one loss in order to come in here and talk about michigan michigan i'm gonna get your i'm gonna get kg's back we we did a show in the summertime and we were we were talking about it and while he and flannel disagreed with my sentiment that they weren't going to be a playoff team they were gonna be on the outside looking in that was one of your picks i got your back yeah thank you just shooting facts thank you he did say that in the summertime and i'm i've been off that 10 and 2 wagon now it's this is a week owning a 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lucky pay for free at luckyland sluts.com no purchase necessary bgw grab void we're prohibited by law 18 plus terms and conditions apply so we process at this point like we are staring six to seven wins in the face hard can we please stop with the alex orgy goby denard robinson chat he can't pass yeah like denard robinson was what he was and i i think whether michigan fans want to admit it or not they overrated him especially because did you overrate alex orgy kg denard robinson or i'm talking about denard robinson they all overrated denard robinson i thought he would be a better path and we still haven't really seen him pass the football but i thought that he would be a better passer i thought that there were maybe intricacies in the office that would you know help his game a little bit so far it ain't looking like that sorry i shouldn't interrupt no he he's not denard robinson until he shows me that he has a modicum of throwing ability yeah stop with the denard robinson chatter denard robinson was an exciting player a free guy who didn't beat really good teams i mean time after time we saw that's his career i that's not alex orgy that's not alex orgy um freddy felt 313 kissed the ring until january uh mike g bla bla bla you know this ring is still down for af well they could have just pulled the same design that auburn had when they got their rings because it's going to end up looking a lot like auburn's rings if you roll out and you would say no but see that's the point though shot can we can we can't do the auburn talk until this is two years in at least if you roll out if you will out and go six and six you're auburn immediately you're auburn i don't immediately if i'm not buying it if you fall back to six and six that argument could be made like if i mean that much of a fall off yeah that much of a fall off and then you follow that up with god forbid a seven and five and then you're on but it's about to be screaming war eagle it's about the follow up though that's my point this year okay it is what it is but if this can take you no no see you don't get to do that argue with you the whole time if you have two of the top 10 picks in the nfl draft on your defense and you go six and six yeah we got a shit fucking defensive coordinator with this schedule i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm not buying the auburn argument until at least there's more than i didn't mean not to dive all into this the question i guess shawn goes to because if you do lose this game if you lose this game then i'm sorry the ad illinois game becomes hard to say that's brett be on all yeah for sure that because that game is a coin flip at that this is why kneel this is why people like you and i i and i and i know michigan fans got mad at me for say i didn't think you were a playoff team your schedule is not as easy as a lot of people made it out to be and it wasn't just who you lost to it was it was how you lost to them because you know if you remember the argument that i made is if if all things are considered equal and you have a nine and three texas and a nine and three michigan sitting in the exact position texas is going to get it every time because they beat you and that's why i said i now did i expect this kind of fall off it wasn't supposed to be this and it's coming yeah i think you know that you you're kind of acting as a man who knows it's coming fall offs happen no one sees them coming not like this yeah come on like this but my point is but my overriding point about this game shawn if they lose this game then all bets are off oh one beat the at alanoid game they'll be i shudder to say could they be an underdog in the at alanoid game if they lose this week absolutely they will not be ranked if they lose this week so absolutely it could be a possibility they don't have the national you know television game that's pushing networks and tv contracts until later i'd have to see what the tv network breakdown is yeah because if they did lose and then they beat minnesota if they're playing at washington on peacock they'll put they'll slap a 25 on oh of course hundred percent they will but i'm i'm saying though man you lose this game at washing at alanoid are not they're not gimme the gimme's we thought they want to work dear they're not and then you know i don't know about washington though i i mean because you got to go there yeah okay that's different yeah what they're they're bad yeah you saw unless they date into cool today struggle with friends know and they struggle with arkansas state yeah yeah you know what they are they're the the washington from two or three years ago the one that people forget washington's batch it's no no don james baby yeah the one before they were back where they lost to montana at home yeah remember yeah yeah and remember michigan fans were beating their chest about being washington after they'd lost him on tana at home yeah but it's just nil when you write out give it to you though the moral of the story is with the michigan fans this game's got to terrify you because if you do lose kg i think you guys realize what could be on the horizon absolutely i already see that like i i'm not i don't have high expectations for this game i do not show i gotta say as our offense is comparable to a high school team right now like it's bet there's no creativity at all in this offense i thought this would just look a little bit better offensively if you want to take you know the dana vinette we're staying fine okay he's not that back but it's the passing game hasn't been there the the option game hasn't been there like there's no real strengths on this michigan offense at this point and it's affecting defense now and weak martin dale the way he's calling this defense it's bad it is a blitz it is high it frightens me i'm not joking it reminds me so much of year one of the rich rod arrow where you had steven three and nich Sheridan and two guys at every week like it was painful even for a guy that i mean i think you know what side of the fence i sit on it was painful to what and and that's kind of where we're at right now i mean with these two quarterbacks and and just the lack of really anything out of them it's it's like you got two out of steven three you got two out of three quarterbacks you do not trust the throw the ball no so where the hill are we going this year all right i don't know why they're not starting jadon davis i would start i don't either cadon is a cadon davis or jadon if that's your future is so he's a quarterback next year yeah four star recruit what are we doing starting right now what are we doing i what from what i've heard it was always the plan to reassure him and like i said considering what they lost three games and get i understand get us three games and then and then say sit down young man at this point i i kind of can see the argument but i'm not i wouldn't personally put my true freshman quarterback in this bullshit like this is bad like we 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like seriously i know that we're you know we're not second best they hook us up but can we have a few in studio actually at least we can't for any everybody in the back right we're gonna do it the holland rep was in yesterday if you're gonna do it do it right please do it right thank you Sean are you surprised by having that hey social and i'll be out there too are you surprised by this michigan discussion Sean because because i am here on mark m michigan has zero chance this week uh andrew schmid it's hard to be a playoff team without a quarterback and a duns for a defensive coordinator vicha keel oatmeal as a michigan fan i can confidently say sharon more is not the answer i hope i'm proven wrong um mike g kg they shouldn't be ranked based on what i see but it's your one for sharon we suck we have to do deal with it and move forward but Sean that flies in the face of what we were told you know why you know why he cried on the field at pen state they immediately proclaimed him and spent he marked me on this it's true it's better than ryan day they didn't say no body said that he beat ryan day he's better than ryan day nobody said it but but i shawn i'm stunned by how shaken being serious all right all bullshit aside michigan fans are rocked right now yes rocked and you always complain about how the fan base is unrealistic how they're losing away time because they were do you know what the difference is you'll want that's the difference that's i got a totally different vibe from michigan fans now i really do we used to have arguments i like i mean Neil you're pretty people used to say with a straight face you guys don't know football 335 will work in the big 10 i mean that's that's a kind because you so desperately wanted to be back yeah Brady hulk you guys all knew after 2012 yeah you knew after year two there's no way you could convince you knew but you knew but you still played the game the difference now and i say this with respect i know the people are going to say oh there you go again i've heard this shit my whole life you won so it's easier now to sit back and go yeah you're right this this ain't it before you had to deal with all the Spartan fans and all the Buckeye fans reminding you how your world had been turned upside down and so you could not admit it and and many wouldn't and i'm not using you as an example yeah because it's not the whole thing yeah it's not the but in general in general you told us forever that we did not see what we saw you told us forever that was real we all lived it you can't deny it when you mix in a natty okay then then you can look at things realistically and it's like somebody said who was it i i forget which guy said it you have to kiss the ring until January screw that you got years of it man you want a natty and if it were me if it were me while Neil is is is potentially speaking factually i i okay we turned into Auburn cool i had an unbelievable three-year run and it culminated with the ultimate going unbeaten and winning a national championship cool oh rats we went six and three oh shit you mean we mixed in a five and seven after that oh that sucks you know i'm still gonna bask in the glow of winning the natty but Neil that's that's the reason if if Michigan was still trying to get back forget about natty forget about it doesn't want to take natty out of if Michigan was still trying to get back to big 10 dominance i'm not sure would be here in the things we're here in right now because guys we all lived it you told us repeatedly we didn't see what we saw we had to have conversations about so many guys and so dr blitz himself oh daddy brown he's he's legit look what he's doing and it was the same thing when they faced a real defense they got pounded just like we were talking a few minutes ago about denard robinson i mean how many times did we see denard robinson fail in the big game against a team with the real defense so that's the answer and listen i'll blame you but you won the natty yeah you can sit back and go yeah yeah we kind of suck but you what they wouldn't be saying this right now if they were trying to get back i i know what we lived it it just it all flipped pretty quickly it sets a moral of story and i didn't think it were in september yeah i didn't think it would look like this not i know michigan fan thought it would look like this so far but there just still a lot of football to play but oh they got it they got to get it together they do uh you want to sneak the break in real quick spenny yep we can do that all right let's sneak the break in real quick because i do want to talk about the michigan state game tell about randy wise i will tell them about randy wise because if you want to golf with some celebrities randy wise is your choice scan that qr code right now i don't have a chance to golf with dara mccarty braille and edwards kelvin johnson kurt gibson could brian could be at the michigan golf course yes brian with braille at the 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confident what oh he means in the fact yeah yeah yeah um let's go red wing sparti let's be real shiran coach those teams for three hours a week last year yes 100 percent shiran coach those teams literally during the game that's it yeah jim harvall jim's up there until the walkout until they slap the banner jim harvall is talking to those guys so i mean i ain't factual shad 216 as an easter michigan family see michigan at the Idaho ball shout out the factory by the way i just said what nothing i'm just laughing at the comment okay so you you're ready for war he's ready for you why why do you care so much if michigan becomes arbor can we ask that question oh i want more for your program than you do not the best like you're not you're not the best you're not in the conversation well i personally you never proclaimed us to be the best i don't buy that leader is in best bullshit so then you're not you're not the elite of the elite that's fine to be that's fine we get okay i'm the fan just the same then okay i enjoy i enjoy the ride just the same then we're cool but why do you care these are just go by what i'm told these are state fans it's literally in your fight song why do you hear what do you mean why do i care because i hate bullshit shawn salt 2023 what what do you want no what do you know what you know what this it's kind of funny as i sit here i was thinking about this during the break right it it it's like the opposite of the tiger scenario that we talked about nobody wanted to believe in 2014 that the run was over why because we didn't finish the run the tigers didn't finish the run you had all this fun all this memory two very disappointing world series losses i will say to my dying breath the 2013 tigers are the most disappointing finish of the season in my lifetime yeah that is a team that should have won the world series they didn't so tiger fans couldn't confess that maybe just maybe the party was over you know why a lot of michigan fans can say maybe the party is over or talk this way because they they had a great party and they won it all they finished it and i think that's i really think that's the difference so to your quandary kneel i think tiger fans didn't want to admit it because gosh damn it gosh damn it we didn't finish okay kg you guys finished that's it that's it yeah and i it's many i know i can speak for you just one oh just one yeah heartbeat i swear to god i'll never bitch again i will never i will never bitch about anything about this bring mel talker back oh for sure oh just one i don't want to say it himself if we can win an national champion i don't care that's all i want just one second and okay so this not to change the subject because i did you know three no it feels pretty good big game this weekend for sure no and i did want to i did want to get i do that i got to hear your guys reaction on this real first yeah mel ciper on get up just said he believes two high safeties should be outlawed in the nfl what the nfl is being ruined by these two high safeties so we want it to be arena football no i just said that yeah because an arena football john you remember the one linebacker had a box he had to stay in right receivers were allowed to be in motion move towards the line and the linebacker had to stay in a box now i'm going to say this and and i've said this forever mel ciper does not get the credit that that he deserves he is literally the godfather the draft and the coverage that that we all enjoy right now isn't there without me bothered it he did i mean he's a he's like honest it him and his hairpiece can you know what stay in your lane bra yeah why is he talking about anything of it yeah talk talk to me about that defensive back that you were looking at i'd a hole and things like that just stay in your lane with stupid comments like that that's a great one that's when you look at a player like milky waters a guy that's six foot two and it's 380 pounds and he runs at four two forty now when he played at iowa state collegiate so not a lot of eyeballs on him but we do know the skill set is there with milky waters he's a guy that can fit into any system when a player is this good anywhere milky waters is a guy that i could see going in the top five of the senate fell draft no doubt about it do you know how many people i burned that with like if you like honestly if you guys don't know the back story i made up a player named milky waters who went to tukoma east high school he was six foot five 290 pound quarterback linebacker hybrid oh yeah jesus and and they he was so good they were talking about giving him a six star yeah do you know how many and michigan was in on him and of course of course they know really that so there there was ryan ermani might know something about this they were doing a show and people people would call in and ask about milky waters and so they were doing all this this research trying to find out about milky waters and listen it it it happened to a lot of different shows and i'll leave it at that not just locally but nationally and there was a facebook page that we made for milky waters oh wow and tukoma east just year after year man they produced beasts and milky waters milk by the way there is no tukoma east right right you're up there rubbish of sickle war forget milky waters there's no tukoma east but milky waters was like a thing in it fooled people man i i heard about this guy and when i would hear that i just go like this yes win column all the way man spending you expect them to win you expect them to walk into boston and bbc yes you do i'm confident i it's like i say that as a fan because i'm not i wouldn't be surprised if they lost i'm going to say no and if you stop the run you win the game yep i agree with you if they if they win that boy we have to look at michigan state a lot differently this season we really do yeah like i said i'm not i'm not putting my mortgage on it but as a fan my hearts in it i'm all in they're fun to watch again we're not watching j johnson terrorist offense so i love that bc gave mizu a really difficult time and that's a pretty damn good mizu team and that frightens me spending i'm not gonna i think we can go bang for bang with him on offense i think we can throw with him you know we can score as many points by throwing the ball but we got to stop throwing it is a big game because if you get it you're pretty much guaranteed a ball pretty much guaranteed a ball though uh oh highl states come and call in oh yeah and or and add a word and add a word and thanks for playing oh yeah yeah that's what four and oh here so you're happy for three weeks michigan state won't won't get their t grizzly on they won't beat the charges back to back be two and oh no i don't know so okay if they do though jesus they'll have michigan state i know how to stay it out you can see top five fluids all of them all right previously all right everybody we'll be back at it tomorrow uh nickel package friday bourbon friday yes please we did that we thought you got your secret stash right here let's do it i got forty-to-one baby i'm still i'm sticking with it i got forty-to-one spending john great man nice to see we'll see you on sunday looking for sunday monday we'll be we'll be getting it in kg spencer rash all of you will work sports chat thread thanks for watching well see you later owning a rental property sounds like a dream until you realize how much work goes into getting it ready determine a competitive rent price market the property schedule the showing screen tenants drop at the least at recollection handling its request maintain communication who sound complicated runners warehouse is here to take the hard work off your rental to do list qualified tenants check rent collection check maintenance coordination you got it go to runners warehouse dot com for a free rental analysis to find out how much your home can rent for or call 303 974 9444 because from now on the 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