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Mix in S-bomb other bombs from time to time. Not very original, but effective. Getting the message across to his players. And hey, Devin, we see how quickly things change. Oh, and one embarrassed by the Buccaneers on the road to start the season since then. The commanders are 2 and 0 with an impressive complete total victory, although they did give up 33 points, but still they scored 38 and took down the Bengals and sent them to 0 and 3. Your Cincinnati Bengals, your favorite team other than the Patriots is now 0 and 3 and good morning. I love how they're doing it too, because they go, they beat the Giants. It was finding a way to win that many touchdowns in that game. And then you come back this week and Jayden Daniels, I mean, lit it up. And I know we'll get into the details, but after the game, I'm sitting there. And they said 90% completion of an offense that was seen as college and simple. Yes, I get it. The flared along passes. Two incompletions on the night. That's when you know a quarterback is carving you up. I used to love what we did joint practices with Tom Brady, because Tom would finish. You know, all of the beat reporters have all of his incompletions and the stats and everything. And he would finish with like one or two incompletions on a whole day of practice. Jayden Daniels, Tom Brady-esque Monday Night Football. I had a lot of fun watching that game last night. And Jayden Daniels set the single game rookie completion percentage record, beating Dak Prescott and Gardner Minshu with that mark last night. So Daniels off to a great start. And the best time to do it is in prime time. When everyone is watching, even when the attention is diluted between two games. And I want to start right there. We were discussing this before the show. And in lieu of sharing my remarks while we were off the air, I decided as most professionals and also me do save it for the air. So, so what are your thoughts on not a double header and not simultaneous? It's this overlapping Monday Night thing that they continue to do even though while appearances and very unscientific poll that we posted on Twitter last night. 24,000 respond and 67% don't like it. 33% do like it. Which group are you in? I'm an adult like it. The thing about Thursday night, Sunday night and Monday night is you get to sit down, stand game, dig in and watch a good football game. You hope last night I'm in. I'm watching. I'm like, man, this this guy Josh Allen is a bad man MVP. And then I was like, oh, yeah, there's another game on him. Oh, shout out to YouTube TV. I had I had the multi multi view going on. But you got to go back and forth to see which commentators you're going to listen to. You try to go when there's a commercial. It's small boxes is I hate it. I just think Monday night football, we think of like the last game of the week to watch and sit down and enjoy. I don't want to split my attention between these two games. I hate it. I agree with you completely. The thing I love most about Monday and Thursday night is the opportunity to focus on one game and only one game with nothing else to do. Because as you are learning three weeks into the second year of your post playing career, it's kind of hard on Sundays to pay attention to one game. Even when all the afternoon games end, we get to halftime and we got to do all this stuff. And we can't see most of the third quarter or what we see of it is just glances and glimpses. And then we got to figure out what the hell's gone on while we've been tied up to another stuff. Monday night and Thursday night, that's our only chance to focus. And even despite our warped and unique view, I think most people would feel that way. Because on Sundays, you do have a lot going on with games. You get Sunday night, you get Monday night, you get Thursday night. And I think the reason they do it. And I think there's some ratings angle to it. We'll see how they sell last night's ratings because one game was on ESPN, one was on ABC, but they're all under the same Disney umbrella. The only good thing. A second game is insurance against the first game stinking. And at least last night in lieu of watching garbage time, extended garbage time in the game we'll talk about later, we got to focus at that point, because I doubt many people. I still kept two screens up because you never know what's going to happen in the other one. But I wouldn't pay any attention to the other one at that point, other than to every once in a while, see if there was any way in hell the Jaguars were going to have a chance to make it even remotely interesting. All focus shifted by really the second half of the commander's bengals game to that one. So that's the only good thing. Because if it's just one game last night and it was Jaguars bills, it would have been like, oh God, is there anything else on TV? I wish another game was on. It is true because as soon as I was watching the game and I saw Josh Allen go out, I have the multi-view and I'm like, oh, Allen's on the sideline. I'm like, all right, my fantasy night's over. I lost my I lost the game last night. He's gone. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. I get it, but we lost. I lost. So now it's time to be like, I can totally hit away from this game. But again, even with that and you have a bad game and you go watch the other game, I still, I don't know, I don't feel like I got to fully dive into the beginning of the commanders and Cincinnati game because with one game on, you kind of got invested into the Buffalo game. And even though it was leaning towards a blowout, you're still watching Josh Allen's greatness, just the way they're driving up and down the field. He's making plays. He's sliding. Everyone wants him to slide. He's doing all those things. And then it's like, oh yeah, I turned to the Cincinnati game as soon as Jamar Chase catches the bomb. And then like now you're splitting this, but I felt like I was still into Buffalo at that time. So I couldn't really appreciate the beginning of that game. Obviously watching the drives, Washington and Cincinnati going back and forth. But don't give me all that. There's just too much to think about. I'm still, like you said, I'm recovering two years out and Sunday, 10 games, eight games on at once, and still at the end of the games. It's like, what do you got from today, Devin? What do you want to talk about? I'm like, I want to talk about the probable Washington games at once, but he's got a job. Yes, and let me tell you something. 15 years in, it never gets any easier. You just kind of accept it and get used to it and just deal with it. Because it didn't get a change, but it's still, it's just, oh, I saw a play here. Oh, I saw a play here. Oh shit, I missed a play over there. And you just constantly deal with that. So if you don't like two games at once, we have good news. Oh no, we have bad news. They're doing it again next week. They're doing it again next week. We've got Titans Dolphins, and then we've got Seahawks Lions. And watch Titans Dolphins end up being an epic and Seahawks Lions end up being a snoozer. But again, it's insurance against the other game not being very good. All right, let's unpack the far more compelling and exciting and maybe consequential game, at least as it relates to our preconceived notions about which teams are going to be good and which teams are going to be bad. Because all of a sudden, the Bengals are bad and the commanders are good. And I had this nagging sense throughout the game, Devin, that the Bengals were going to wake up at some point. And maybe it's just because Gary, our producer, the commanders fans, was like, pop, pump the brakes, pump the brakes, still a lot of time left, still a lot of time left. And it's true. You worry about that, especially when you're playing a team that should be beating you. Like at what point are they going to go on the equivalent of an 18 to two run in a basketball game and leave us in the dust? But to their credit, and this is more about the offense in the defense, every time it started to feel like the Bengals were on the verge, the offense just delivered. Clutch play after clutch play, culminating in the one that will ultimately unpack very soon and in close detail, but they always answered and kept drives alive and took time off the clock and made it harder for Joe Burrow to do the things Joe Burrow does. And I'm always interested in these games when it's close and the commanders come out and they're playing good ball. And Cincinnati goes and scores, they come right back and answer. I'm always interested in what happens after the half. Are you able to get it back going? Are you able to go blow for blow with the team that is the favorite? You're on the road. It's like so many things going on. As soon as the second half starts in Washington, again, I was going back and forth and I see Washington, they're in scoring position. And I'm like, oh, Washington's for real tonight. This is going to be an issue. And the glaring thing for me with Cincinnati was the defense. They just could not get any stops early in the game, late in the game. It was just whatever Washington wanted to do. They did it. And as much as we want to call Jayden Daniels Young and Cam Taylor Britt called it a simple college offense. It wasn't a bunch of just all scheduled plays were the only big plays. Like the first deep ball in McCorn was he hits his back foot. He sees McCorn is even with the safety and he says, hey, I like this matchup. I'm going to let it rip. Even though right now it's not a wide open play, he throws it and believes in what it is. And that was a thing to me like this bangles defense. They were seen as one of the best defenses, scheme wise, drawing different things up, how they were able to go out there and do it. Cam Taylor Britt, a good player out at corner. You got Hubbard and Henderson off the edge. Like all of these things are going well. And it's just like, everyone keeps wondering when is this team going to wake up? My thought is, is this team really what we thought? You know, it's only, and again, I say this is only three games in. I thought what Burrow said after the game was the best thing possible you can say as a quarterback, as a leader on the team is, no, I'm like, we're not dead in the water. Like we still believe, but also at the same time, the last thing that we should be talking about is winning a division, winning the conference. It's about how do we just win a game? How do we get something going where we feel good about what we've done the next day in the film room? Because that's the thing in this league. I've played on some teams in the way where it felt like we weren't the worst team in the NFL felt like we were close. But it also was like, we also still keep losing. And the game against Kansas City, they fought, they played well, good moments in the game. Honestly, you probably walked away and said they should have won the game. Then you come back and it's like, all right, well, we had that game. Now we're definitely going to win against Washington. And it's the same result. You play decent. It's not terrible, but like you have to find a way to win in this league because other teams like they're not just going to lay down because you are who you are. And I'm worried about this team of what happens in these next few weeks. Like, it's not a promise you turn it on and go win. Injuries happen like different things happen. Trent Brown, my guy Trent Brown goes down last night. Now, it wasn't a good looking injury for him. Like, those things happen in this league that makes it a lot harder to win once you start like the way they started. Yeah, when Trent Brown was injured, it looked like something that right knee went and it's not something simple that's going to heal quickly. It felt like it had that vibe to it of extended absence. Not that you were ever 0 and 3 with the Patriots. I can't imagine the Patriots have ever been 0 and 3 in my own recollection, although at some point they definitely were pre Brady. But Chris Sims has talked in the past about how the urgency arrives and how the tension builds almost exponentially as you get deeper and deeper into your schedule without a win. And that's kind of where the Bengals are now. The good news is they've got the Panthers this weekend. The bad news is they better get their act together because the Panthers are loose. The Panthers look good. Probably the best thing for the Bengals that happened was that the Panthers beat the Raiders on Sunday because now the Bengals will be fully aware and alert for the Andy Dalton reunion game because obviously Dalton got started with the Bengals as a draft pick in 2011. Took the team to the playoffs five straight years before he started moving around from place to place. So who have a little extra something for Cincinnati? But they better have a little extra something going because they lose to the Panthers and fall to 0 and 4. They got a major problem. They go to Baltimore after that on a short week for a third. Wait, I had that one wrong. They go to Baltimore. They have Baltimore come to them week 5. I was too far down in the schedule. And then they've got a trip to the Giants on Sunday night football week six. So they better get it right right now because you get to 0 and 4. I mean, we have seen it like once or twice. The Chargers were the first team back in 1992 under Bobby Ross to start 0 and 4 and turn around and get to the playoffs. And I feel like a team has done it since then, but I can't remember who 0 and 4 even with 17 games 0 and 4. That's a lot to lose. 0 and 3 even 0 and 3. It's going to be hard. I don't have the stats in front of me. I don't care about the stats. The bottom line is most of the time you're 0 and 3 because you stink. It's up to the Bengals to prove they don't stink starting on Sunday. Yeah. And that's the thing. Because I remember even the seasons where we didn't start the way we necessarily wanted to start call it. It's week four, week five. Bill would always tell us five wins isn't going to get anybody anywhere at the end of the season. So for Cincinnati, like that has to be how you view things like, yes, we could be 3 and 0 and that would have gave us a great feeling. We would feel good about ourselves. But at the end of the day, three wins is not going to guarantee you anything. You still have to continue to play well and win. So they have a long runway to get that going. The problem is when you don't have anything going for yourselves and it's that sense of urgency, but also it's not full panic, but it's armor. What if this doesn't happen? You start to think about those things. And I think when you look at this team, they has so many other things going on all off season that now it felt like right before the season, everything was coming together. Jamar Chase back in the building. T. Higgins got hurt, but it was like, oh, we finally got this group we want. So the problem sometimes is that that's how teams felt back at the end of July, beginning of August. That's when they felt that feeling Cincinnati got that a whole month later. So you're hoping as these next two weeks kind of go on that they hit a stride where they're out of training camp. They feel like they're the team they want to be. The problem is sometimes you start too, too far behind the eight ball. And the good thing for them right now is Cleveland doesn't look that great. Baltimore looked good against Dallas because Baltimore strength is Dallas's ultimate weakness. So that still is, you know, a little bit on edge. Baltimore will go play Buffalo this week coming up. We'll get that game. So you'll get to see really where Baltimore is. But for Cincinnati, I just wondered because I've been in the building sometimes where that that urgency starts to settle. This starts to come in and I think they will eventually go on a win streak and no start winning some ball games. But then it's like every loss after that feels like the biggest loss because of the way you started. So you play a big game, eventually against a Baltimore or you get a cleave. Like you play in those big games. And if you don't win, it's usually not that big of a deal. You just kind of say, all right, they got us that time. We'll see them again. But now when you start in a hole, it's like, ah, now they have another game up on us. So they so they have to really be able to focus in on the next game and not continue to see the end result of what it's going to be down the road. And that's not easy to do. One of the biggest problems apart from the fact that you have three losses and no wins. What's your margin for error the rest of the way? How many losses disqualify you from the playoffs? And we're only in year four of the 17 game season and there may not be four more years of it. But I remember when it was 16 games like you get to five losses, you might have to run the table. The 2008 Patriots one year before you got there only lost five games and still didn't make it. Usually it's like there would be a 10 and 16 that ends up on the outside when it was when it was six teams in the postseason. Now with seven, 10 and seven is probably the minimum to have a chance to get in. But you're already three losses on the road to seven. You don't have the margin for error and you start worrying about that. So I think that's the real problem for the Bengals. How many losses until they just can't even try to grab the last ticket to the party in the AFC and be the seven seed facing the two seat on the road? They'd be very dangerous if they did it because of Joe Burrow. That would be scary. Yeah. But at the same time, they're getting closer and closer with each passing loss. By the way, the Patriots were last 0 and 3 in 2000. Bill Belichick's first season with the team. They finished five and 11. And I distinctly remember Mel Kuiper, who made different news last week for entirely, entirely distinct take and unique and creative, definitely creative. There's a fine line between outside the box and just F and Nutty. But still, I remember hearing him on ESPN radio on a weekend show in 2001, making the case that the Patriots that year would go 0 and 16. And the Bill Belichick would be unceremoniously fired. Of course, we know what happened in 2001 for the Patriots. Not quite 0 and 16, not quite 16 and 0, but Super Bowl champions. But that just shows you how, I mean, you know, Belichick never got his teams in that spot because it is a challenge to dig out of it because every game is close and you can't expect to flip the coin and have it come up heads over and over and over again enough times to get you into the playoffs. And you're getting closer and closer to the point where you're just going to be done. Look, we'll all expect the Bengals to win on Sunday at Carolina, but they're going to have to go prove it. It's road trip short week. They're going to have to do what the Eagles managed to do after an ugly home loss on Monday night that's going to have a lot of questions, a lot of doubt. They got to get over that now and they got to go on the road and they got to reassert themselves for the external crowd and for the internal crowd so they can believe in themselves and build from there. Yeah. And let's give some love. I'm sorry, all Washington commander's fans, who after a big win Monday night, you're like, how dare you talk about the Bengals. You dragged me. You dragged me negative. You tried to do it last week and I was on guard. This week you did it. You opened and you called this my favorite team. It was just like a go ahead, nice pass to the hoop. I had a score right there because this is again, this is everybody's Super Bowl favorite to upset the Chiefs and get back to the Super like this is what everybody was saying and no one gave up when they lost to the Patriots. And then I was like, it's Kansas City. So we had to dig in, but Washington, no fear, no fear. We are here. Jaden Daniels, the real deal. And I know over in Patriot land last night was like, this is why you play your quarterback. Look how much Jaden Daniels has gotten better. And I was like, he, he kind of, we kind of thought this going into the season. There were people talked about how well Jaden Daniels looked all training camp and his ability to make some plays, but also not to rely on that all the way through. And it was fun to watch last night because he looked like he was just in total command and was having so much fun even to the point where he smiled and he's laughing and he scores a touchdown and like he's dancing. He's having a good time, but late in the game, they pick up a big fourth down conversion and it felt like everyone was ready to celebrate and he looked to the sideline and he was like, give me the play. Let's go. We're not here to have like a good showing on Monday night and make people say, all right, we're, he's like, I'm here to win the game. And like it was just so fun watching him last night to see a young quarterback just really command and have ownership of the team. They were all in invested in whatever Jaden Daniels center did. The whole commander's team was following step by step and you love to see that for any young player. Something that I heard Scott Van Pout and Ryan Clark discussing last night and I think it's right on the money. The demeanor of Jaden Daniels and I love watching the demeanor of a quarterback. I think you learn a lot about a team from the quarterback, how he's reacting, how he's carrying himself, the expression on his face, how he's communicating with others. Is it going well? Is it not going well? And can you take a night where it doesn't feel like it's going your way and bend it your way? And I think a lot of it comes from how the quarterback conducts himself and he's just loose. He's smiling. He doesn't get too high. He doesn't get too low. He's just kind of happy to be alive and happy to be. And there's a lesson for all of us to learn in that. He just is happy and he's going out there and he's doing his thing and he's got confidence. He's got belief and he's managed to pull it off. They kept extending those drives. They kept making those plays and with essentially not quite the game on the line because the Bengals would have still had to answer the faith that the coaching staff has in him and the execution that he showed that throw to Terry McClellan for the clinching touchdown. I mean, that's the kind of thing that elevates a guy in everyone's eyes, most importantly inside the building. But then all of us, my tweet after this was a star is born. It's incredible to see that on third and seven holding a five point lead with just over two minutes left, throw it to the end zone. Don't play it safe. Don't set up for a field goal to put you up by eight and set you up for overtime. Go for it. Put it in the end zone. That was amazing. And what I loved about it as a defensive player, like everyone's like, you can't get beat deep. Dax Hill is sitting there. He knows it's covered zero. It's all out blitz. There's three receivers and there's three guys in coverage. That's it. Dax Hill is sitting there expecting. Okay, we're sitting in the house at this young quarterback. They're going to get the ball out of his hands fast. He's ready to break on a slant, a hitch. Some kind of quick throw. I think the last thing in his mind is that they're going to double move a stutter and go and go and try to throw a bomb. He's sitting there waiting for Jayden Daniels to get rid of the ball. You see that guy is running right down his face about to hit him. And again, like you said, Cliff Kingsbury, talk about college coordinators, what success he had in Arizona, all of those things to draw that play from a corner to come to the sideline and tell both of those guys. He said, after the game, throw me the ball. I'm going to go win the game. This was the map. This was what everybody talked about coming into the game. How did they get scary, Terry involved? How does it get more targets? How does this happen? And now the games on the line and they say, Hey, not only are we going to throw you the ball, we're not going to take the easy route and try to throw a quick completion and let them break and and gump down the hill on the ball. We're going to say, you know what, go throw this ball, go win the game. And the guy is right in his face and he throws the ball. Only we're a scary Terry McCormick could catch the ball corner to end zone. And he has the presence looking over his shoulder to know exactly where he's at. Like that is a veteran play. That's usually plays that we watch guys who have played together three, four, five years to know, Hey, this is what we got. How does how we're going to attack? So for that combination to come together, Monday night football, only three games into the season. I mean, that's as impressive as it gets. But I think the thing that Washington has to hang their hat on leaving that game last night was the whole team came ready to play. It wasn't perfect at all. You're playing one of the best quarterbacks in football. I thought Washington as a defense made it way too easy for borough during the game of just showing up exactly what defense you're in to high safeties or one. Like it was he didn't have to read every deep ball to Jamar Chase. They gave it to him before to snap. He knew he had one on one coverage. He let it rip. But what I will give him credit for was once they got to the red zone, they were able to get stops. The length of the field shrinks. They don't have to worry about that anymore. There is no deep balls of Jamar Chase. They say, you know what, now that we're here, we're going to double Jamar Chase. We're going to take the ball away from him. We're going to force you to throw the ball to other guys. They hit some. They miss some. And that was the difference really in the game of the couple red zone stops that they got. And on the reverse side, Cincinnati really didn't get those stops. And Washington scored touchdowns. And that was the difference for them to win the football game. You mentioned Terry McClure. And we had an item at PFT over the weekend with comments from Cliff King's very, very simple comment. We just need to get him involved more. When you look at the numbers, though, he had been involved. He had, I'm looking at it here. Where is it? Where is it? He had against giants, more targets and more catches than anyone else on the team. Eight target six catches. The problem is it was only 22 yards on those six catches. And coming into last night, he had eight catches for 39 yards on the season. They needed to get the ball to him down the field. And they did with the 55 yarder. And they did with the clincher at the end. That's the key. Get the ball to Terry McClure and down the field. Let him do what he does. Let him run by guys and hit him deep. And you could tell they specifically had that ready to go, practiced it and made it happen. And now a great vibe for that offense. And a lot of faith and trust in what they're trying to do with the rookie quarterback. Here's Jaden Daniels and Dan Quinn after the game on this belief that is emanating from the coaching staff toward the young quarterback. This is a blessing that, you know, the coach's staff has faith in me to go out there and make a play on a critical, critical moment. But that's just a testament to not just me, but the whole offense. And it's the how much faith they have in us and in the boys that we showed throughout the game. He's continuing to grow on the job. And that is part of he and all his teammates that are the first year guys of growing and learning. You know, when to extend a play, when to get down, when to use his legs. Like a few days ago, I said, what did you learn over the first two games? And it happened again tonight, you know. But as far as the competitor, I've known that as far as talented arm, all that I've known, it was good to see the next step of him of, you know, just having a mindfulness when to take the shot, when not to. And I thought that was a, so I did learn some more tonight. And he probably showed me also that you know, he's listening to and knowing the importance of that. And I think that's so critical, Devin, because when you have a young quarterback who is playing, and we all know by now, Tom Brady's opinion that we shouldn't throw these guys into the fray, they should sit and they should wait. Well, that sounds good, but it's not practical. Because as we were talking about on Sunday night, if you're the coach and you got this guy and you don't play him, you might get fired by the time he gets some blood. So let's go out there and see what this guy can do. And you have a plan for bringing him along the right way. And the plan has to work. You have faith in the guy, he's got to earn it. And then you have more faith in him, and he earns it. And it goes well, CJ Stroud, it worked last year, and it's working so far for Jayden Daniels. But with each one of these games where you have success and you show what you can do, and you build more faith, it just blossoms more and more. And that's the way you can't make it happen. Ideally, you want it to happen. But if it doesn't, you got a problem. If it does, you got to keep her. And so far, we've seen enough from Jayden Daniels to say he's on his way. He's not there already, but he's on his way to becoming a guy that reaches his full potential, and is as effective at this level relative to the competition as he was in college. And it's almost like listening to Jayden Daniels and especially Dan Quinn right there reminds me of Chris Sims always saying they finally took the training wheels off. And it sounded like last night was where Dan Quinn realized, I got to let this guy go. Like we got to take somebody's restrictions off. We got to let him go. He's making the right decisions. We got to call some more these shots down the field. We got to encourage him to take shots and do what he thinks is right, because he showed on the biggest stage, you know, primetime game that he is that type of player. He is the guy we drafted. He's the guy that we want to see go do that. So it will be, it will be fun to watch how they call games, what they do going forward because Jayden Daniels has made obviously everyone in that locker room a believer, but he's made America a believer. Everyone watching that game last night walked away saying, okay, we got another CJ Stroud type of player here. But again, I think the hard thing is as as much fun as we had watching Jayden Daniels last night and what his potential could be and how well he played. Tom Brady's point still has, it still has some relevance because we look across the league and I put Anthony Richardson in that rookie category kind of as well because he only played four games last year. And you know, I was talking to my brother who was calling the Chicago and indie game and he had two or these young quarterbacks, Kayla Williams and Anthony Richardson. And as you watch the game, he was like, it just wasn't a good game. Like neither side ever got anything really going because of just the quarterbacks not being able to get it going offensively, whether it was because of a breakdown of protection, whether it was a bad decision, whether it was sloppy kind of footwork or this or that. He said it just felt like the game never got a good rhythm about it. And I think that's the hard thing is for every one of these quarterbacks that we go and watch Jayden Daniels, we still have to think and watch some of the other guys, Bryce Young, Will Levis is struggling right now just across the board. How many of the other guys are struggling? And then you look at a Malik Willis who played a little bit as a young guy, then he's been sitting on the bench just watching, he gets to the floor and Green Bay. And in that office and all of a sudden you're like, Malik Willis is pretty good. Oh, he's a good quarterback where maybe he was always a good quarterback. We just got thrown out there a couple times with Tana who got hurt, no real plan for him to go out there and play quarterback as a young player. And then now with a plan, all of a sudden we're like, this guy's pretty good. So I do agree with you though, like if I'm a head coach and the owner comes in or the general manager comes in and says, hey, play this guy, you don't have a choice. I'm not going to get fired just to try to do the right thing. No, like you need to support your family and do that. So I do think that is the issue. But we are watching every once in a while, one of these guys is great, you know, right away. But for the most part, we're watching these guys who are sitting or doing different things come in and be ready to go compared to some of these other guys that hopefully they don't establish some bad habits as we watch Caleb Williams looks like every other play is just a player survival. We hope that doesn't that doesn't continue in his career to be the style of play. Couple of things I want to work back where you mentioned Malik Willis and I think he got caught in a power play between John Robinson, the former GM at the Titans and Mike Vable and now former head coach. You have to have everybody on the same page to make this work because maybe it could have worked with Malik Willis. But for whatever reason, Malik Willis was a symptom of a deeper issue that initially resolved itself with Robinson being fired and Vable supposedly emerging as the guy around whom the organization will coalesce and then Vable gets fired too. So if you don't, you know, you have the plan, it's kind of lining up for a young quarterback to get the chance, but everybody has to be all in like they are in Washington. Everybody has to be on the same page. That's one of the ingredients in having a successful young quarterback. Everyone has to be committed to the cause of getting the most out of him and you compare Daniels to Stroud. The big difference, we didn't see CJ Stroud week three Monday night football. We didn't collectively see him other than in that cluster of one o'clock Eastern games on Sunday until the last game of the regular season and then in the postseason against the Browns and the week after that, against the Ravens. I'm looking ahead to Washington schedule and the flex gods might have something to say about this. But for now, we're only going to see him one more time and that is week 11 November 14 at the Eagles on a Thursday night. Other than that, we're at the mercy of whether or not a game moves to Sunday night, Monday night or Thursday night. We know they have that power now even though they didn't use it at all last year that I can recall him flexing a Monday or a Thursday game. But maybe we'll see him later in the year. There's going to be a clamoring now that we've gotten a taste of Jayden Daniels. We're going to want to see him more as the season progresses and and maybe we will. I want to, I want to show one thing. If we can pull up the McLaren catch because I'm getting some emails from some Bengals fans who are understandably a little salty about what happened last night that catch at the end Devin as a former defensive back. I want to get your take on this. Did McLaren retain possession completely through the act of going to the ground? I think he did or more importantly, I don't think there's enough clear and obvious evidence to overturn it. And we always have to remember what the ruling on the field is. The ruling on the field is catch. But man, that ball moves when he hits the ground. Now it's superhuman to do what he did. And he managed to hold on to the ball. But I got some Bengals fan saying, Hey, that ball moved. I don't think it did. And there's no way it would have been clear and obvious. But you know, since you're going to be wired and you're going to have a bias to say it should have been incomplete. What are your thoughts on that? Normally I am that guy. I'm heavy pro defensive back. But like right here, you can't, you can't dive into like this ultimate ultimate slow motion, the ball move. Like that's a catch. That's a catch any day of the week. And remember, I played a Super 50 T 52 Corey Clement back in the end zone. Eagles 2017 season where like what's a catch? What's not a catch and Pittsburgh. Jesse Davis, he has a catch on the goal line against us. He falls. They call it not a catch. So that that was like a big thing. But I think we've gone to the point where these plays like that's a catch. Let's not try to dig into it so much that the ball moves, but he never loses possession. The ball just moves in his hand to his arm where he still has the ball. I just hate when they start just like diving into the slow motion so much that it changes the game like the year and the preseason where they were going to review past interference. And I was like, they can't review past interference. Every place passing an appearance and slow motion. You just can't do that. So I'm sorry, bangles fans, as much as you probably are like, they're cheating us that that was passing interference last week against Kansas City. Yes, it was passing an offense. And I know you're mad because it was also passing an offense Sunday night against Kansas City. They didn't call it. But that doesn't make it that doesn't change anything. Yeah, that should have passed an appearance too. And sadly enough for Cincinnati bangles fans, Terry McCorran's catch that that was a catch. Jason Garrett will say from time to time we're watching games on Sunday when they're doing a replay review. Show it in full speed. Show it in real time. Don't do the frame by frame supporter film thing. That's not his comment. That's mine. But because you're right, it's all happening so fast. And what Terry McCorran did there was superhuman because he also was getting dragged down from behind. That was past interference as well. That wasn't called. It didn't matter. He made the catch. But if that ball had come out, it should have been first and goal on the one. So it's just, it's amazing. There aren't many human beings who can do what Terry McCorran did. And we saw a couple of those. One thing that happened last night too, and I'm going to pivot on the fly here to something else that really impressed me when the army brown made that catch and started running toward the middle of the field and got blown up. Remember that play? The fact that he did not fumble is astounding to me. Did he held onto that ball when he got rocked? Because how many times have we seen? Guy gets hit like that. And the first thing that goes flying other than the mouthpiece is the football. And he took a shot and we don't always see like usually those shots are like, I'm running and I'm looking this way. And somebody comes ahead, like Brown is going across the field. He's making moves. And I'm watching my wife. I'm like, oh, oh. And then Geno Stone comes and again, levels him. But again, it goes to the fact of how dialed in everybody on Washington was. Because I think that was like a second and 19 type of play where they're just trying to get rid of the ball. And right after a sack driver and after a sack. Yep. Well Brown does on that. It's set up an opportunity to have a third down and manageable. And I don't remember if that was a drive where they went for a four down. I don't remember. But just the way that like he goes and he does that, he gets killed, doesn't fumble the ball, but then it pops right back up to let to let Geno Stone know, hey, big hit, but I'm good. We're coming back. Not that Geno Stone saw because he was celebrating rightfully so because you hit a guy like that. And you get up and you go crazy. But again, that was, that was really only flared. And we really got from Cincinnati, other than a couple sacks that, you know, didn't really change possessions that much, you know, not many trustworthy and get much worth putting the ball, like all of those different things. But yeah, I agree with you to take that hit and to get up, not fumble, continue a drive. Brown, like everyone was dialed in. And you know, shout out that receiving court because when Dotson got traded, a lot of people were like, why would you trade this guy? Like how much better is he going to make Philadelphia now adding him with those other two guys at Philadelphia? But you look rookie quarterback, young receivers, they're still showing up and being productive. You said we didn't see much spunk last night from the Cincinnati defense. We did hear a little chatter from Cam Taylor Brit the days before the game. And this, this, does this ever end? Well, does it ever end? Well, when a guy pops off, what Cam Taylor Brits said about the commanders last week about specifically quarterback Jaden Daniels, they don't make him do a lot. They keep it really simple for him. Nice college offense, Cliff Kingsbury, the OC. And of course, it was Cam Taylor Brit, one of two Bengals defenders who got burned by Terry McLaurin for the 55 yard pass that was like the first Holy crap moment of the night from Jaden Daniels. They mentioned on the broadcast that he'd never thrown a ball that far in the air at college and clearly hadn't done it so far in the NFL. And I can, I can only imagine what Bella check would say to you guys ahead of time to avoid that kind of verbal diarrhea. And what he would do on the back end, if it ever happened, I don't remember it ever happening that anybody from the Patriots ever popped off about anything. It kind of happened. Kind of happened 2010. I remember one time. Yep. Yep. I remember that. Yep. Yeah. He didn't defeat. Yep. He's any, he sat him for first quarter of the game, which I didn't agree with it. For one, it was, it was hilarious classic moment. But I will say when I saw Cam Taylor Brit's comments and I know after the game, he said it wasn't malicious. But yes, that is. You're saying that for a reason. You're giving your opinion and his opinion, there's nothing wrong with that. You watch the film. You guys are in there talking about it as a defense. That's what you think. You want to go out there and you want to put it in air and say it fine by me. You better go and back it up. And you call it. He didn't, what he did the week before, he talked about worthy, Xavier worthy from Kansas City. He's just fast. That's a one on one match up for Cam Taylor Brit. He got worthy one on one made and I mean, unbelievable one handed catch interception. Hey, respect to that. What he said last week to me, was he put the whole defense on watch on notice? As they say, as the young people say now, the defense needed to stand on business. Once he says that, he calls this offense simple. And then you go out there and the guy only has two incompletions for a simple offense, quick throws, easy throws. And after the game, he says, and that's what they really did do, quick, easy throws. He's scrambling a little bit a couple, you know, only two shots. But you knew that coming in because you called it simple, you said that's what they were going to do. So now you're either saying, little anorano didn't prepare you guys, he didn't get you in the right defenses to stop it, or you guys didn't come and execute your defense because they did exactly what you thought they were going to do. And they were highly successful at it. To me, was really saying we weren't ready to play. Like that to me was the most ridiculous thing. It'd be different if Jayden Dales came out and just everything he did was just like this out of control. Lamar Jackson runs for over 100 yards. Like he came out and did exactly what they talked about. He was going to do other than he took advantage of one-on-one matchups at the corner position, where Cam Teller Brett plays and Dax Hill plays. So when you go out there and you say those things, you just better be ready. And not just you, but your whole unit better be ready to say, hey, we love what Cam Teller Brett said. We ride with them. We are all about like, I don't think the defense liked it either because if they did, they would have came out and backed it up a little better than they did last night. So I've always hated it. I'm not a fan of it. But if you do it, and that's who you are, that's what your personality says. Jamar Chase is a little bit like that. He'll go out and say it, and then he comes and backs it up. You got to go do that. You can't say that and then let a quarterback be 21 of 23 for 200-some yards and two touchdowns. That's ridiculous. With the five-dollar meal deal at McDonald's, you pick a McDouble or a McChicken, then get a small fry, a small drink, and a four-piece McNuggets. That's a lot of McDonald's for not a lot of money. Price and participation may vary for a limited time only. Banking with Capital One helps you keep more money in your wallet with no fees or minimums on checking accounts and no overdraft fees. Just ask the Capital One bank guy. 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And to go back to something you said earlier about how dialed in the Washington receivers were, don't you think that helped them get more dialed in? That's the benefit of bullet and board material. Oh, we don't listen to outside noise. Yeah, and we listen to Everett. We soak it up like gravy with bread. We want all the outside noise because it helps us get to where we need to be. It helps us commit to all the things we need to do. Not just during the game. You know how this goes. All the little things that no one's paying attention to. Getting to bed on time. Watching extra film, being properly hydrated, all those stupid little boxes that you have to check that have no immediate glory, no gratification attached to them. When someone pisses you off, it gets you to do all that stuff that you'd really rather not do. So you are dialed in. And it was a sign that the Bengals weren't dialed in. They should have been focused on one thing and one thing only, scoring more points than the commanders last night and not saying anything, not doing anything other than getting themselves ready to play. So the pendulum there is. Camp Taylor Bridge showed us he and by implication, his teammates weren't as ready as they should have been and as focused as they could have been. And he helped the commanders get even more focused than they already might have been. There's a reason people call football the ultimate team sport. And what ends up happening is everyone has different individual goals during a season and what you want to do. And I would go out on a limb and say Monday night, Washington, young team, don't get many primetime games like you said earlier. Right now they have one more primetime standalone game. Everybody's probably thinking about, all right, how do I prove I am who I am? Terry McCorn. I'm sure he wants to be recognized as one of the best in the league. Jayden Daze, he wants to prove everybody what he can do as a rookie. Also Eckerler wants to show everybody, Hey, I'm still a good running back. Don't write me off. Brian Robinson wasn't being a household name. Like all of these little things. What happens when camp teller Brits says that everyone forgets about any of that stuff. They now have one goal, one mission to approve what he said wrong. Everybody has dialed in now on that one thing. It just helps so much 2022. My last season in New England, we play against the Arizona Cardinals, Vance Joseph, the defensive coordinator for the Cardinals. He says, Hey, yeah, like the Patriots offensive, and looks like a defensive play callers calling the plays. Some truth about it, maybe. Yeah, defensive coordinator, Matt Patricia was calling the plays. But what that did for the offense, it brought everybody in there to say, Hey, let's play and prove what we have going on. Let's play for that. Let's play for some respect. They disrespected us. That gave that gave the offense enough fuel no matter how bad it was going, what happened in previous week to say, let's just dial in right now, and prove to them what this so-called defensive offense looks like. And I think that's what Washington said, Oh, we're a college offense. Let us show you what a college offense can do to a so-called really good NFL defense. And that to me, and maybe it is in my 13 years playing with Bill Belichick, I don't, there's no reason to try to enlist and say, Hey, entice another team's best shot. Why? If they want to come out and not be locked in, let them do it. Let's just go get a win and move on to next week, where I think Cincinnati and camp turnover, they invited the best shot, and then they weren't ready to answer Washington's best shot, which I think for Cincinnati to staff, the fan base, that was the disappointing part of Monday night, a chance to show everybody. Hey, we're good. We understand is not how we want to start. We're going to go win. They fell short, and that, that was very disappointed last night. The end result, the Bengals, Chris Sims, preseason, Super Bowl champion pick are now 0 and 3. Here's some of the sound that came out of the Cincinnati locker room following the third loss in three games. You know, we have to create our own opportunities. When you lose three, one square games, no one's going to give you anything. And so again, there's no gift we're expecting to receive. We have to go take it. And we haven't, we haven't done enough really dictating the tempo of the game, you know, as collectively, offense, defense and special teams. There hasn't been one unit that's, that's dominated to really take the pressure off the other unit. And so this falls on everybody and it's frustrating. It's a kick in the gut when you would put on all this work in the offseason training camp and you're free really about the team and you start out on three. But again, it's, that is what we are right now. And I told these guys, we got to find a way to get a win next Sunday. And we'll get this thing moving the right direction. But right now, there's a lot of frustration I know from, from the people that are supporting us. And, and we're frustrated with ourselves that we haven't found a way to win yet. And we just got to figure that out. But no one's going to point fingers, put ourselves in a hole that I firmly believe we can dig ourselves out of. And I'm excited to watch and see how this team responds. We're not happy with where we're at. But by no means is the season over. We're on three. It's 14 left to play. We just have to continue to get better and you know, see where the the cards fall in the next, you know, 10 weeks whenever the buy is. So we just got to go into to this week preparing to get better and trying to get a win. That's all you can do. He's right. It's all they can do. But they better do it. Because as I said earlier, if they lose the Carolina Panthers and fall to 0 and 4 and that window, that margin for error is getting smaller and smaller and smaller. All right. Our remaining time in the program is getting smaller and smaller, Devin. It was another game on Monday night. Someone apparently forgot to tell the Jaguars. We're going to take a break and break down the ugly display from Jacksonville's perspective. The beautiful game from Buffalo's perspective that we saw last night on the first end of the overlapping double header next year on Pimp. Then get a small fry, a small drink, and a four piece McNuggets. That's a lot of McDonald's for not a lot of money. Get the $5 meal deal today. Prices and participation may vary for a limited time only. Buying or selling a home is a big deal. Literally, it's one of the largest financial transactions you're likely to make. So work with someone who will work with your best interest in mind. 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