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The college football you love, the live TV you love, Sling. Go Team! Go Team! And the one and only Snoop Dogg, Team Snoop! Quit playing, man! Two voice legends, two iconic new coaches, one sensational season. The all-new season of the season of the season of the season of the season of the season. The one and only Snoop Dogg, Team Snoop! Quit playing, man! Two voice legends, two iconic new coaches, one sensational season. The one and only Snoop Dogg, Team Snoop! Quit playing, man! Two voice legends, two iconic new coaches, one sensational season. The all-new season of The Voice, Monday on NBC and Peacock! Kyle Murray's jersey from Sunday's 41-10 blowout win over the Rams is headed to the Hall of Fame. Murray became the second player in NFL history with 250 or more passing yards, 50 or more rushing yards, and a perfect passer rating of 158.3. Can you name the first? Can you name the first guy who did 250 plus passing, 50 plus rushing, perfect passer rating? I know the answer, Michael, because I wrote the story at PFT the other day. Do you know who did it first? It happened in 1974. Okay, 1974, okay good, that's a good hint. 1974, ooh, in the 250 passing, rushing, 50, 50 for more, perfect passer rating. Same numbers, too, 21 for 17 and three touchdowns. No, it wasn't him, it wasn't greasy. Nope. It wasn't Shaq Aaron's. It didn't throw anyone past the line of the season. You're never gonna say it wasn't him, but you were born in the state where he played. You were born in the state where he played. Does that help? No. Ken Anderson, Ken Anderson, Holly Anderson did that? Yeah, yep. Holly underrated MVP at the NFL in 1981, which was well beyond what you would have thought would have been his prime years. And yeah, Ken Anderson ported off November of 1974 in a 27, 17 win over the Baltimore Colts. All right, Baltimore Ravens head coach John Harbaugh is 0 and 2. His brother Jim is 2 and 0. Let's hear from John on his team's disappointing start after going 13 and 4 a year ago. I've heard it said the NFL season is a race to improve, to become the best team that you can over the course of the long haul. And it's a marathon and we've got to continue to try to improve as much as we can every single day. And I think sometimes, you know, your improvement shows up and sometimes it doesn't. So we've got to keep pounding the rock and the rock is gonna crack, you know, but that's our job to keep pounding, not to discourage, not think all is for nothing and continue to work and our reward will be in, we'll be out there in our future if we continue to do that. So we're in the right direction and we've got the right plan. We've just got to learn to execute it better and more consistently, you know, and I think we'll do that as we go. We'll continue to get better and that's every single guy doing the best they can. And look, that's the right attitude. What are you going to do? You're going to give up with 15 games to go. They could have won both games, should have won at least one of them. They blew the Raiders game. They just blew it and they have a history of blowing games in the fourth quarter. There are deeper issues they need to address when you have a team on the ropes, you need to punch them through, but they're not the only team that's blown a lead in the fourth quarter this year. They just need to keep doing what, what they're doing. Don't panic. One of the things Sim says, Michael, as the losses pile up that feeling in the locker room, that tension, it becomes desperation. O and two, O and three, O and four. It's critical to get that first one. Once you start O and two, getting to one and two is so important. One and two feels so much different than O and three. Yeah, and Mike, we talked earlier about the Steelers and their identity and what you come to expect of the Steelers. Well, the Ravens, traditionally, you know what to expect from the Ravens. You know who they are. You know what John Harbaugh wants to do. They love to run the football. They're a dynamic offense, but I think what's happening with them right now is, it's not an identity crisis, but they have, they've tweaked their roster to the point where they still have to figure out exactly what they want to do. You know, Andrew's was hurt last year. We saw likely with the big game against Kansas City. So what are you doing there with these two tight ends? Well, Rashad Bateman ever become the threat they thought he would be when they drafted him as a first round pick. They're giving him opportunities, but is he really stepping up? And then with Derek Henry, I think we all thought when they signed Derek Henry, this is a perfect signing because he's going to get, you know, 85, 90% of the snaps on a team that already likes to run the football. And I'm not saying he's a disappointment, Mike, but they, the snaps with Henry and the other backs, it hasn't been, it's been a little bit more balanced than at least I thought. Not to mention they may have some changes on the offensive line. I think this is not, this is not one of those situations where you say, oh, the Ravens, they'll figure it out. They always do. If I'm a Ravens fan, I'm a little bit nervous about where they are right now, especially when you consider their schedule. We had the graphic on the screen, the O and two starts previously for the Baltimore Ravens, who were the Cleveland Browns until 1996. They have not made the playoffs any year. They've started O and two. That doesn't mean they're destined to not make it. They're in a tough division. They're sitting at the bottom with the Bengals looking up at the two and O steel or something that no one expected going into the season, but they've got the tools. They just have to not freak out and they have to go to Dallas, which is not going to be easy this weekend to try to pick up that first win of the season and we'll see if they can do it. We talked about their habit of blowing leads. Here's Harbaugh addressing that very real thing, which at a certain point isn't a fluke. It's part of who you are as a team. Here he is. You know, we have a 10-point lead. It's not all of us as a team to maintain that lead. We need to, we need our punt team needs to be better. That's for darn sure. Our offense needs to be better and our defense needs to be responsible to get stops. Stops have to be made, plays have to be made. If you make plays to get the stops, then you leave with a win. So, when we learn to do that consistently, then we're going to win, we're going to win all those kind of games. I mean, giving up a fourth quarter lead is never okay. It's not acceptable. It should never happen and you do it because you don't play consistent football to get the stops that you need. And our guys know that they'll take accountability for it, coaches will take accountability for it. I mean, when I say us, I mean all of us players and coaches together, that's our job to get that done. Hey, Michael, it's not just getting the stops and maybe he's treading lightly here. The offense has to have that ability to deliver the knockout blow when the opportunity arises. I watched the Vikings 49ers game on Sunday and the Vikings were up 13 points, the 49ers score and all of a sudden it's six. If the Vikings had not done anything with the ball on the next drive, opportunity for the 49ers to take the game and erase the 13-point lead. Vikings drive down methodically, get a field goal, push it back to a two-score game and that's that. So when you're talking about a multi-score lead at some point, the offense has a chance to stop the bleeding. And before that, the offense often has the chance to end it. So let's just not focus on the defense. The offense has failed too when a double digit lead is lost. Yeah, I mean, you said they should have had the Raiders game, I agree with you, but go back to that first game. You guys are there Thursday night in Kansas City. Now, we all talk about the likely play, but how about the play right before that Zayflowers back of the end zone? He's right now. I don't know if they're going to win the game now because Harbaugh said he's going to go for two when he thought likely how he was going to go for two. But at least you have an opportunity to extend the game if you just make that play. Lamar Jackson just missed him. And I don't know if you put it out on Jackson and you put that on Flowers. But wide open there, it's exactly what you're talking about. There are many opportunities to extend the lead or to keep the game close. And we focus when the 10-point lead is blown. We focus entirely on the defense and there are a lot of places to look. I think, by the way, if the Harbaugh gave that answer, I'll just say quickly, he gave that answer. We're going to protect a first-year defensive coordinator, too. We haven't really talked about that. If you say blown lead, you got a new coordinator replacing McDonald. And he's a Raven. No, he's family, but he's also a first-year guy. There might be some slippage there going from one really successful coordinator to a new guy. That's a great point, Zach Orr, a guy who is very young and has had a meteoric rise through the coaching ranks, and you're still getting your sea legs at this point of the season. The preseason is nothing compared to the games that actually count. Again, they go to Dallas, where they are five in one all time against the Cowboys. And I remember they went to the old Texas stadium for the last game there on a Saturday, 2008, I believe it was, and beat the crap out of the Cowboys the night they closed down that old stadium. So they go back there this weekend. Jim Harbaugh, as we mentioned earlier, goes to Pittsburgh, charges coaches, 2-0. Here he is. You know, I could probably cobble together some of his pullstring quotes to come up with an answer on my own. But here's what he actually said when he was asked if he is surprised about his team's 2-0 start. Well, you never, you don't know to you to go out and play the games, and we really don't know. We had an opener against the Raiders, and we had the opener on the road against the Panthers. Our team looks really good at openers. You know, they look good, so we're just going to start treating them all like openers. And this week really, I mean, going to Pittsburgh, you know, the challenge that that's going to be, I mean, it's really, that is an opener. This is, this is opener against the playoff team. Well, it's Pittsburgh's home opener. Now, I didn't hear any pullstring phrases there, and maybe he's got a cold or something. Sounds like he's been smoking unfiltered camels, and that's a deep baritone from Jim Harbaugh. I still have those, the unfiltered camels. I think my dad smoked them off between 1970 and 1978. Hey, was it camels for your dad? My grandmother was a Benson's. I remember, and this is Mike, and I wouldn't recommend this for sending a, she used to send me to the store, the local corner store, picked me up a carton of Benson's. It was like 10 years old. I picked me up some Benson's, and then play my number for me. I play the lottery every day. My dad, my dad went from camels, my dad went from camels to Marlborough's at some point, and my mom was always parliament, always parliament. I can still see the box. Oh, that's the good stuff. The good packaging, you can see the packaging. I remember those at aunties with the parliament. But can you imagine, now I'm sending a 10 year old kid to the store to pick up a carton to cigarettes, and to play a couple of, you know, I'm going to do this, I'm going to play this one straight, I'm going to put this in the box. Make sure you get it, and she'd write it down on a piece of paper. Make sure you get it right. Okay, a lot of pressure for a 10 year old, but I don't know if, I don't know of a hard ball of doing that. Did you get a little piece of the action when the number hit? Well, yes, one time she used to call me for like a week straight because one time playing a CYO basketball, I don't know if you guys know about CYO, the CYO League, Catholic youth organization, basketball game, and the scores were not very high. So I think we beat our opponent 37 to 19. So right before the lottery show comes on, I said, "Nana, I know what the number is going to be." So what? I said, "371." I just took our score, our score and the one from the other team, and it came up, and I'm telling you, she wouldn't leave me alone for like a week and a half. She thought you were a clairvoyant. She thought like, "Did you pull down and hit your head, and now you know all the numbers ahead of time?" So yeah, that's good. That's good. What are you thinking today? Yeah, that's good. How do you feel about this one? I don't know, Nana. That's excellent. Great stuff. All right, let's take a break. But we'll see whether or not Jim can get to 3-0, or whether or not John can avoid falling to 0-3. This Sunday, when we return, we're still waiting for a highly rated quarterback class collectively to do one thing that's next to your own PFT line. At Sling TV, we'd like to know, do you want to take your love of college football to the next level? Does a bulldog bark and a duck quack and a long horn, uh, move? 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You know, there's a segment of the fan base that wants to drag Caleb Williams for everything he does and wants to find the negative in everything he does and I've seen that clip and people are saying he wasn't interested in hearing from CJ Strauss. I mean, he's a guy who just lost a game. I don't, he didn't walk away from him. I mean, you know, just 'cause he's not sitting there wide, I'd like tell me more Mr. Wizard. That doesn't mean that he's showing disrespect to CJ Strauss. The guy just lost a game. And I just feel like there's a, if you notice this, it just feels like there's a group out there that wants to bash see Caleb Williams any chance they can get already. No question with him. I think it started, I think it started with him crying, honestly. That's where most of the criticism started with the, I cried after the game and goes up into the stands and he's sitting there, you know, crying with his mom and USC didn't perform the way people thought they would and his backup did better in the bowl game and he sat out the bowl game, his backup throws what five or six touchdown passes in that game. So I think there's just been a lot about Caleb Williams, the player, Caleb Williams, what he wanted before he even played in the NFL. But this shouldn't be, the struggles that he's had so far really shouldn't be surprising, especially on Sunday against the Texans. He's playing against, first of all, the Texans are a much better team than the Bears. I know we kind of have pushed the Bears to, you know, play off contention, but they had a losing record last year. They still have some holes on the team, defensively they're very good, offensively they're still working progress and you're playing against the Texans team that not only made the playoffs last year but won a playoff game. His struggles in that game in particular were pretty predictable. I think he's going to be good, but just like a lot of rookie quarterbacks, it's going to take a little bit for him to figure it out. Well, they got a block form, they got a block form and they have to have a running game when DeAndre Swift, their high priced free agent addition that they went straight after me, they already had that deal done. That was like 13 minutes into the negotiating window for free agency. They wanted the Andre Swift, they got the Andre Swift, the average 1.8 yards per carry the other night and the blocking isn't there in the run game or the passing game and that's going to make it harder for any rookie quarterback, no matter who you are, to hit your ceiling as quickly as possible. So of all of the rookie quarterbacks from this year's heralded class that saw six of them drafted in the first 12. Now, two of them aren't playing, one's on the bench in Atlanta and the other one is on injured reserve for the year in Minnesota, and Drake May hasn't played yet, but for the three who are playing, there is yet to be a touchdown pass yet. This segment, a new one, tell me why, tell me why, Michael Hawley, none of the rookie quarterbacks have thrown a touchdown pass yet. Supporting cast, supporting cast, Mike Florio, all right, we're talking about Caleb Williams, watching that Sunday night game, he wasn't managing the game, he was on the run. Most of the game, he was just scrambling, he was just trying to survive, he's so wondered that they only lost by six points, you know, they're really everything they got. It felt like, oh, he survived that play, oh, they're just barely, they're hanging on that entire game. So the supporting cast is not there yet, even though he does have DJ Moore, I'm going to say offensive line for Caleb Williams, and as you pointed out, running game. For Jayden Daniels, I'm going to put it more on him, that he is more comfortable running. He is already, he's an elite runner, we've seen that through two games. He really knows what he really knows how to get where he wants to go. I don't think he is either refined as a passer yet, or doesn't trust what he's seeing with his supporting cast, and with Bowniks, just not enough, it's just not enough, the team's not good. Team's not good enough, and he's not good enough to overcome some of the problems that he's saddled with. You know, when I framed this question of tell me why, I thought of Bowniks's very literal answer to why he threw an interception in the end zone, he said, drop back through a pass, went to the other team. I mean, why haven't any of them thrown a touchdown? Because none of them have delivered a pass that was caught by a player who was either in the end zone, or made it to the end zone after catching the pass. With Nick, can it be as simple as he's possibly faced the best two defenses he's going to face all year in Seattle and Pittsburgh? Could it be that simple? We don't know how great those defenses are going to be. It's possible, it's possible, he's never going to see for the balance of the year defenses that good. Yeah, Mike, but if you look at the Broncos, okay, tell me a difference maker on offense that anybody really has to be concerned about. Courtland's side, I think every so often. Every so often, I just look at their team, they've got issues, some of the issues came from Russell Wilson, we were talking about him earlier, just the cap, the cap issues that they have, the dead money on the cap, some of the decisions that they've had to make, some of the talent is not what Sean Payton wants it to be, probably needs another round of drafting and free agency to get what he wants, so you kind of have a mishmash of some players that are Payton players, Sean Payton, not the GM, and some players who aren't. I think it's really tough for Nick, so I don't really, just to be honest, I'm not a huge bow-nicks fan, I know Sims is, I'm not a huge bow-nicks fan anyway, so I don't think he has enough to lift what's around him, and what's around him is not special. It's been tough for the Broncos, it's a work in progress, at some point they have to show some progress, or there may be some big changes there, we'll see how that plays out. Okay, tell me why there have been so few 300-plus yard passing performances and so many 100-plus yard rushing performances through the first two weeks of the season. Because it's early, that's why it's early. Everybody hasn't figured this thing out yet, and you have some new situations, you have some new coaches and young quarterbacks, new head coaches, new offensive coordinators who have tried to make things work in the passing game, and so I think it is, this is one of those defense ahead of the offense kind of situations, and Mike with new coaches, a lot of new coaches, especially if they're younger, now in the case of Jim Harbaugh doesn't really count because he's a guy who's had a system for a long time, but a lot of new coaches, they'll come in and they want to, they're a little more conservative, they want to establish the running game, think about McDonald in Seattle, you want Gerard Mayo in New England, new young, these young guys, defensive oriented guys who are not really trying to focus on the passing game, and I think injuries factor into it as well. You look at Malik Willis here, yeah, you got no Jordan Love, you know, the floor has to adjust to do something a little different because your game plan has changed because you have injuries, Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco, same thing, game plan has changed, you got to do something different. Jason Garrett made a great point the other night in the podcast that we do during the Sunday night game. Good offenses get studied by everyone, they get studied by all the other defenses, they get studied by all the other offenses and things get picked apart and it does take time for offenses to get up to speed for offensive line play to truly gel. That first month, the regular season is in many respects and extension of the pre-season, the Patriots dealt with that under Bill Belichick. Once the 2011 CBA dramatically reduced the off-season prep time, the end-season practice intensity, there were so many fundamental things that you weren't able to really shore up, Michael, until you got to the games that counted it into that weekend and week out flow of practice and playing and you just hoped you could win the games that you played before your team was really ready to go. Now, we still haven't seen the numbers skewed the way they are, but you're right, it's just two weeks, it's a limited sample size, it will change in time. You know, Mike, if you went to every NFL city, I'll bet you every coach and general manager would all say the same thing, everybody is looking for another offensive lineman. It's like, you know, I wish we could, if we had one more lineman, we'd be in good shape. So these offenses, we focus on the skilled people and focus on the quarterback, a lot of these offenses are struggling or not reaching their potential because the offensive line, every team feels like, you know, if we just had a little bit more on the offensive line, we'd be in good shape. So that prime positions and football, it's not just quarterbacks, not just wide receiver. A teacher, a teacher, kids to be offensive lineman and they can have long careers in football. Great point and you're right, they're always not enough and the ones that, this is a point that Sims makes and I think it's one of the reasons why they look the other way on holding at times, they look the other way on the guy leaving a little bit early before the snap. The defensive lineman is so much better. The offensive lineman are overpowered and it makes it hard to make an offense operator for your offensive line is unable to do its job. Last one, tell me why turning from Bryce Young to Andy Dalton is the right move for the Carolina Panthers. I don't think anyone can do that. I don't think anyone can tell you that that is the right move. Mike, if you play fantasy football and a lot of people do, you always come across that guy, that fantasy football manager who you want to kick out of the league. The owner you want to kick out of the league and David Tepper is a fantasy football guy, we don't all say what exactly are you doing? This is not about Bryce Young. I refuse to say Bryce Young can't play until I see him somewhere else. Either David Tepper is no longer the owner and I know that's not going to happen. So I need to see Bryce Young go to, like you're Vikings, I like to see him do what Sam Darnell is doing right now. Go to a good offensive coordinator or stable situation and then see what he can do. Maybe he can't play, I don't know, but just a year ago, this was a valuable prospect, a rising prospect with a lot of potential, good head on his shoulders, all the things that people said about him and now all of a sudden after 18 games, he's a bust to the point where Andy Dalton, 37 year old Andy Dalton is coming in to replace him and going to do something better. No, I don't think that is the best situation for Carolina. I think it's just unfortunately for Bryce Young, he found Carolina the worst, with the worst ownership group in my opinion in football right now. I'm glad you said that Michael, because I'm going to run by you a theory that I've articulated on social media, we talked about it yesterday and I wrote something about it this morning. You can't fire the owner, Jed York, the 49ers CEO said that seven years ago when his team was mired in dysfunction and you can't, you're stuck with the owner. I feel bad for every fan base with a bad owner because I think the dysfunction that we see on the football field starts at the top and works its way down. You look at the teams that have ruined quarterbacks, the Jets have a long list of quarterbacks they've ruined. The Panthers are now the quarterback whimperers, not the quarterback whisperers in ruining Bryce Young. I would not want to go there if I'm a quarterback coming into the draft out of college with my NIL money in the bank. I long for the day that the top quarterbacks and I've suggested that they all come together this year, whoever they are, that loose group of five or six with a first round possibility, they all come together and collectively say, hey, Panthers, don't draft any of us because none of us are coming there. Whoever you pick will sit out the whole year and live off of his NIL money, maybe make a little more NIL money along the way and reenter the draft in 2026. I would love to see that happen. That's the only way to send a message to a guy who can't be fired. Yeah, and I agree with you, I think Carolina is that team to avoid now. I mean, David Tepper has made it obvious, it's almost comical. You can't make up some of the stuff that he's done in a short amount of time. Giving Matt Rule, Matt Rule was the object of his desire. He gave Matt Rule a great contract and then that wasn't good enough and he goes to Steve Wilkes as an interim and he actually got success from Steve Wilkes. They were competitive, they were 500 under Wilkes and then he, remember, he didn't go to his last game. He didn't go to the last game of the year and moves on from Wilkes. Then Frank Reich was his guy until he wasn't. He just continues to bounce around with personnel. I just think he is that guy, like some owners have the humility and security to say, hey, it's my team. I know everything that happens here, nothing is going to happen without my knowledge. I'm good with it. I'll hire good people. I'll let them do their thing. He's got to be involved and it's a shock mic that he came from Pittsburgh. It's almost like he did the opposite of what the Rooney's have done for years. He's like the anti- Rooney. He's like, no, I don't want to do this. It hasn't worked here. I want to do something different and I want to meddle. It's all on him. I'm with you 100 percent. If I were an agent, I would advise my client to at least a threat, a threat. If I got the number one pick and they have it, I'm going to tell you, hey, maybe I'll go back to school. If that's an option for me, I want to be traded. You have to make that happen because the results speak for themselves. If you go there, you're not going to get a fair shake to show who you really are. We've seen the meddling. We've seen the drink throwing. We saw the hat removal because God forbid there was a restaurant that had a sign out front that had something on it that the delicate billionaire didn't like. So he stopped the car and went in to talk to the manager and the ultimate sign of disrespect. You mentioned Frank Reich, I'll never forget this deliberately mispronouncing the guy's last name. Nobody had ever called Frank Reich who's been around football for 40 freaking years. Nobody ever called him Reich until David Tepper, the day he was announcing the decision to fire him. And I think he used it more than once. It's just, look, and I feel bad for Panthers fans, they're stuck. There's nothing they can do until he either changes or sells. That's it. And maybe you force him to change. If all the great quarterbacks coming into these years draft will come together and say, we're not going to Carolina. All right. We have to take a break. When we return, we'll look back at some of the best catches from week two and the best one might be from someone who doesn't play offense. That's next. I'll be up the line. Power Yankees time presented by our friends at Toyota. This is a very scientific process, Michael Hawley. I must tell you, there are many inputs and variables and analytics go into this formula, which is highly effective when the time comes to decide which team will beat another neutral site or no, no, I just, I go with my gut feeling in the aftermath of the Sunday games. I usually do this in the first half of the Monday night game. I try to make it fit. There is no rhyme or reason to it. People love them. People hate them. People love to hate them. This is this week's and the problem is some of the best teams lost. So the bills get bumped up. The bucks get bumped up. The bucks can't hide anymore. The bucks beat the lions. The bucks are undefeated. The bucks look pretty good. They made it the final eight last year and they brought everybody back. How do you feel about the Buccaneers at number three? I like it. I like it. The Falcons. A lot of people have the Falcons just winning the South and not even with any regard for the Bucks. I'm proud of you though, Mike, because I know the Bucks are your team. You are. You picked them to beat the lions that came out to be a great prediction for you. The Bucks at number three, that's probably the highest anybody would have Tampa at number three. So this scientific poll, I can see your fingerprints all over it. The science of, oh, well, I like the Bucks and I see your Vikings over there just a whisper away from the top 10 going up 13 spots. I kept them very low. I wasn't a believer in the Vikings going into the season. On paper, they're the worst team in the division. On paper, the Steelers are the worst team in their division and they're the two teams in those divisions that are two and oh, the Steelers are number seven and people are like, oh, they've hardly scored any points. They've hardly allowed any points. They've hardly allowed any points. It's all about winning games and the Steelers have won and they may be able to keep it going. So nine unbeaten teams, I try not to have like all the unbeaten teams at the top. Like there are some teams with a loss that have made it into the top 10 or stayed in the top 10, but you know, there's no denying this, Michael, the Chiefs are the best team and everybody else is just like competing for the privilege of losing to the Chiefs in the playoffs or the Super Bowl. That's right. You got the, you got the right number one team curious though about number eight. I know we'll probably talk about it another time. Number eight Philadelphia, I don't know, is that that loss the other night seemed very familiar, should have had it and you wind up with the loss, not a good sign for the Eagles. Oh, I agree with you. They may be eight on their way to 18 the way that they look the other night because the same issues from last year still kind of lingering and Devin McCordy and I spent first hour of the program yesterday, now we tried to focus on the positives of the Falcons first, but we eventually got to the negatives and there were plenty with the Eagles that they got to get fixed because they go to New Orleans this week and Tampa next week. They got their hands full and I think they had their buy after that. So they've got a lot of work to do the next two weeks. We need to take a break. We got some more work to do before we wrap things up. We'll be back with more PFP live right after this. Stop being Dr. Doom. Okay, Dr. Doom? No, I'm not being Dr. Doom. We don't know how much time we have and hey Michael, you don't know me well enough to know my story from six weeks ago when I woke up in the middle of night and thought I was dying. I had a horrible vertigo incident where I had, and we all have calcium crystals in our inner ear that can trickle out and your whole world violently spins and twists and shakes and I just thought, hey, this is what happens when you die. Here we go. I hope I see the light and not the alternative. Now probably be freaked out by you maybe after today. Hey, Michael, they do that to me any time they can. He's Dr. Doom. I'm Dr. Real. We had a reality check to start the program. All right, reality check for the two and O teams. There are nine of them. Which ones do we trust the most? That's today's draft. Michael, Holly, you're up. Well, I would like to draft it, okay, I can draft in at first pick. And you got the first pick. Can I go the two and O team? Can I go the obvious first pick? You can take whatever one you want. Sorry, Mike, I got to take the Kansas City Chiefs. I got to take the Kansas City Chiefs. Number one, they're the number one team and the PFT power rankings. Two games arguably that they should have lost. This is the chief story now. This is like they're calling card. Hey, right when you think you have us down, you think you have the event. The advantage over us, we find a way to pull it out. And so they beat the Ravens. They beat the Bengals at the end of the game. If I'm talking about trust, I trust the Chiefs to be on the right side of things at the end. So that's my number one pick. I trust the Buffalo Bills because they managed to win a game they should have lost week one at home. That would have been a stunner if the Cardinals had beaten them. But then they went down to Miami and before the two injury happened, the Bills just were making easy work of their top division rival. And I think the Bills will only get better as the season rolls along and some of these younger receivers and newer pieces get more comfortable. So I trust the Bills to continue what they've done. I'm going to take a draft pick from you. But you know, if you want to trade up and give me additional compensation, we can discuss this. I'm going to take the Bucks two and oh, they are familiar with the top of the division. And you know, you look at, you look at the Panthers, they can always, you know, feast on them, saints and Falcons, they're not afraid of them. I'm going with the Bucks comfortable there. I, I'm going to anger some fan bases here, but I'm going to go with the Chargers because this is one of my preseason narratives. Jim Harbaugh has shown he can come in and turn a team around immediately to the 49ers from six and 10 to the brink of the Super Bowl. He's already imprinted his psyche on the Chargers. They're running the ball. They've got a great quarterback. When they need to throw it, they can. The defense is better. They, they, I trust will find a way to work through some of these issues that always pop up, somebody gets injured, rash of injuries here, whatever. I just feel like Harbaugh's energy is exactly what this team needed. And I think that they're not going to knock off the Chiefs, but they're going to be in the mix for one of the playoff spots. Let's take a break. We got one more round before we wrap up the show. Round three of the two and oh teams, we trust the most next here on PFT. Two and oh teams, we trust the most. There are our selections so far. Chiefs, Bill's, Bucks, Chargers, Round three is upon us. Michael Hawley, you are up. What do teams say when they get a draft pick? Oh, we can't believe he was still there for us. Mike, I can't believe I have the Houston Texans available. They're loaded. It's hard to find a weakness on this team and you look at their division, everybody else is windless. So the Texans might be able to play themselves because of their weak division. They might be able to play and we might be talking about the number one seed for them just because of what's around them. That's a great point. Coming into the season, it's like, hey, this division looks pretty loaded and not so much. I go with the Vikings primarily because the defense is so unpredictable, gave the 49ers fits. You coupled with that offense, maybe the most balanced team right now in the NFL. I think they can keep it going. We'll see. Thanks for some of your time today. Great job, Mike. We'll see everybody on Thursday. At Sling TV, we'd like to know, do you want to take your level college football to the next level? Does a Bulldog bark and a duck quack and a long horn, a moo? With Sling, you get access to hundreds of games on the biggest networks all for the best price. Go with the obvious choice, streaming the games you love and saving on them too. That's taking your fandom to the next level. Visit Sling.com and start watching live. The college football you love, the live TV you love, Sling. [MUSIC PLAYING]