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Vince, Trevor, Shaun and Ryan break down the 28-3 win over Miami (OH). It's time for Super Chats! Shop for Irish Breakdown gear at our online store: https://ibstore.irishbreakdown.com/  Join the Irish Breakdown premium message board: https://boards.irishbreakdown.com  Stay locked into Irish Breakdown for all the latest news and analysis about Notre Dame: https://www.irishbreakdown.com​ Subscribe to the Irish Breakdown podcast on iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/irish-breakdown/id1485286986 Like and follow Irish Breakdown on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/irishbreakdown Sign up for the FREE Irish Breakdown daily newsletter: https://www.subscribepage.com/irish-breakdown-newsletter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This staff is one in three this year preparing this team schematically, fundamentally and mentally Notre Dame just had more talent. >> Yeah, I mean, we talked about this a ton, John. So I don't wanna rehash the beginning of the podcast. You guys can go to the beginning if you wanna hear like my full thoughts. All I'll say is this and then we'll move on. I think with Marcus Freeman's pregame comments, I always come back to I think that there is a passive approach as a team. And that is defensively, we're gonna be aggressive. Offensively, we're gonna play to hopefully be in the end is kinda how I view it personally, right? And when you have that passive approach, when you're not the dictator, when you're not the guy that is prioritizing being aggressive, I do think that you're gonna be a volatile football team, right? Because you could say, take what the team's given to you and make the sound tackles and don't make a big place. But guys, that's not gonna work sometimes, right? Like it's not going to. And the way I think of it is quite simply, you can wait for things to come to you or you can go get it, right? And I think when you go get it, you force a lot more error on the opposition. And I think that that gives you a lot more opportunities to be successful. Ultimately, when you're the more talented football team. So I think the just thought process, the, I don't wanna call it the aura around Notre Dame. But like, I think their ideology of how to win football games, I think is a flawed one. Like, 'cause most of the time, it's gonna be successful. But then there's gonna be some games where we know that there's a lucky part of this game, right? It's how a ball bounces, it's how, you know, a step is, it happens. And how a, you know, a player trips or a game of inches, like all those types of cliches, right? But it's true. And there's gonna be sometimes where the ball doesn't roll your way, right? And when it doesn't roll your way, you're s out of luck, right? Ultimately. So I think until that happens, I do think this is gonna be up and down football team. Why is it a roller coaster? 'Cause I don't think that this team dictates success enough on both sides of the football. I think that they wait for too much to come to them. They need to be the aggressor more often. And I just don't think that they do that all the time. I agree. Call me a glass half full type of person, but... You're a glass half full person. I am. No, I am. At least I try, I try to be. I try to be. I'm trying to be like my man, Sean Davis. Okay, look, I, as crazy as this sounds, especially 'cause we did just get done watching a very frustrating football game today, at least Notre Dame can err on the side of they do just have more talent, because I think one thing that would be really hard to say is they prepared perfectly, schematically, fundamentally and mentally. They just aren't good. And I think I'm willing to put my trust into a coaching staff that has a Mike Denbrock and has an Al Golden, and a head coach who does have his ebbs and flows, but the highs are still really high. Yes, the lows are low and that needs to be corrected 100%. I am not here to say that that doesn't matter because it does. It's just the fact of the matter, but I'm willing to put the trust in a head coach going into year three, and again, like I've said before, not just year three at Notre Dame. Year three is a head coach ever. He has things that he has to work on. He needs to find better ways to get his team up for games like this. You have to be more focused. You have to get your team more focused by whatever means necessary, but I would rather the gap be the coaches need to go in and make an adjustment instead of them looking at their roster and saying, you know, it's not that good. So we're going to do what we can. Like I said, call it blind optimism, but it is nice to say that, you know, we're frustrated with Notre Dame winning by 25 points because they were just that much better than a Miami of Ohio team. I would like to put the faith in the coaching staff, more specifically the coordinators who have that experience to start to get things turned around, and that's where I look at it. Just to pose this regime to the previous coaching staff and the head man where they said the talent wasn't good enough. And that was the excuse, right? We have to shop down a different aisle. And that was the reason why they were passive aggressive. That was the reason why they played close to the best, right? And now you still have the same approach, but you have the talent now, you know? So it's like, what is it? It's like a dark cloud that's just hanging over the program as far as approach to winning games, regardless of who's at the helm. And, you know, double R and Trevor, you both touched on it. But moving forward, I just think there's going to have to be some type of change, man. And it has to start within, and it might have to start within at the top to say, you know what, I'm going to have to loosen up because if I'm going to go down, I might as well go down swinging, instead of trying to play it safe, you know? And that is something that I think you have to be willing to. The coolest thing I saw today in double R, you brought it up before we started the show. And I love this approach. They didn't win, but Miller-Moss threw that pick six. And Lincoln Riley tapped him in the helmet and said, "You're good. We're fine." I'm not afraid to make a mistake. No, it's like, dude, but as a head man, that's the countenance you have to have for your team. Right. In the midst of things. So when things get chaotic, you, they play to where they come to where you are as the leader, right? And that is something that Trevor pointed out, that's something that I need to see. That's something I need to see. And I think that could be part of the reason why the leadership is kind of melancholy in a sense. It's like, yo, hey, go ahead and be you. Be you. Come out of your shell. Be you. If that's you. But don't worry, man, forget who's watching. Be you. If you need the screen for three, four quarters, do it. Get in their faces, like, at least be you. Go down swinging, being who you are, instead of being passive aggressive and cautious. Oh, man, go play. You have the talent now. You have the talent to be aggressive. You have the talent. They showed you. Look. Yeah. We fought with the punt. We got your back. This defense, we got your back. We're going to get it right back. Mm hmm. Be aggressive. You make the mistake. We got you. We got you again. We got you again. Be aggressive. Go get it. That's the approach, especially with this schedule, man, like, why are we being passive in it? Yeah. It's frustrating. You're super, you're super aggressive on the defensive side of the ball, right? You love the blitz. You're going to play man coverage. And then offensively, I just feel like it's just like not the same. And a football, like that's my struggle. And especially teams wise, I don't even think it's that fully either. Like, I don't know, man, I agree, Sean. I think at the end of the day, you can, you can move past the inconsistencies if you know that everybody's playing blank to the wall all the time, right? And they're being put in a position to play fast. I just, I don't always feel like that with Notre Dame and because that is the most frustrating part is that like, there were some years with Notre Dame that they would kind of overachieve a little bit and then they would fall flat against like Clemson in 2018, right? Where I'm just like, guys, like, they just weren't better than that. Right? Like, they just worked. Like, where does athletic affect you? They were. 2020, it's Alabama. I'm just like, yeah, they could have played better, but also Alabama was just better than them. I mean, if we're being honest with ourselves, right? There are just some times where I'm just like, I think you play down the competition. I think someone said in the chat, I think you played to what the competition level is. You play up to the good, you play down to the down. It's just, it's very frustrating because I just think there's a lot more talent than what they always, they always let hang out. The crazy thing, we thought that was solved last year because they dominated the lesser teams last year, especially at home. They dominated them. And then they struggled in games where you felt like they were better against good teams like a Clemson on the road. Like, where'd that stinker come from? Oh, where did that movie deal stinker come from? Those are the games we were worried about. We thought we had gotten past this point of worrying about our performance against lesser teams. And now we just had to show that in big games against decent competition, we could rise to the occasion to be consistent. And it was pretty much the offense once again. Like, I think a lot of people, you know, defense used to win championships, right? 20 years ago in football. Now that way Jim Trussle won a championship against Miami, that not in 2024, you're not going to be able to do that. And I know a lot of people like the point to Michigan, that quarterback was the first round pick in the NFL draft. You can say what you want to say about him, he was the first round pick in the NFL draft that made timely plays in the past of the game when he needed to make them. Absolutely. There's still a need for offense and that Michigan offense put up 30 some points again. It wasn't like they were putting up 17, 15, 20 points a game. They found a way to be explosive. They were explosive today, but they were making explosive run plays. They were explosive. They just didn't have the passing yards. So I think that's what you're talking about. Even if you're going to be a run heavy team, be aggressive with your scheme, and you can do that. And I don't think they're doing that. I think we already see what it is, right? You know who the quarterback is, allow him to continue to evolve, but your best players are your two running backs at this point, along with both comments, all right? Feed those guys, those three guys, feed them, get them the ball, get your evidence, play God looks today. It seems like he's coming into form. Those are your four guys, get them the ball and allow this offense to continue to grow, right? And be aggressive with it. So in every now and then, get a deep shot in the Chris Mitchell, who's shown that he could be that guy. And it seems like the formula is there. Yeah. 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And I don't want to see Jeremiah Love touch the ball 20 times against Miami of Ohio. No, no, that's nailed it. Brendan Steyer. Thanks for the super chat. Appreciate it. Plunts were really good. Much improved. Right. They look like he improved a bit passing, mostly just staying in the pocket longer, but he's got to make those easy throws. Still needs to improve. I can't disagree with anything that was said there. You guys, I think if you're going to play them methodically driven offensive scheme, then you have to, you have to hit the easy ones. Right. Like when you're, if this is the style that Marcus Freeman wants to play, I don't fully agree with it. But if this is the offense he wants to play and you're methodical and you need long drives and you want to do short intermediate game, then Riley Leonard needs to be more consistent short than intermediate. I mean, just like flat out. He does. Right. So you need to make the layups. If that's the offense you're going to be. But if that's all that you're going to be, then Riley Leonard needs to be better short intermediate. There's no way around that. Yeah. Absolutely. That makes those passes more pressurized, in my opinion, like that's even more pressure on him to make those gimmes, those layups, right? If you go tempo, now that pretty much plays into his ability to either run or pass, right? And get teams off off kilter. So, yeah, he definitely needs to improve. No one is, no one is disputing that. Nope. Please don't think anyone is disputing that, right? We all see it. Charlie Weiss is the last belt loop. Thanks for the super chat. It is one dimensional. It is not sustainable. I truly don't see how every week we, how every week, just a quarterback running the ball is making the team better. We have wide receivers. It's, it's kind of a simplistic view though, because they did throw the ball. I mean, yes, it needs to be better. It did throw the ball. It threw the ball again, four times down the field, four good things happened. So we're, we're, we're again placing the blame on one football player when there's a bigger issue and that's all I'll say and we'll keep it moving. All right. I like your thought process. Tyler Evans, thanks for the super chat. Can we play all the games on the road, please? So bad that we're there, dude. So bad that we're there. Yeah. Yeah. What are we going to say, man? Like when I grew up, Vince, I'm sure you were the same way because you're not that much older than me, right? You were super like territorial in football. It's like no one's coming into our house, right? Like the stupid under armor commercial, right? Like click, click, no one's coming into our house or whatever. Like, but you didn't like nobody came to your field and dunked on you. Nobody came and punked you and Notre Dame again, like two weeks ago, I think came in your house that was an inferior opponent and punked you and they didn't, they didn't win the game today, but they also came and again, like I think Miami, Ohio came out with more energy and a better game plan early and Notre Dame had to outlast them and out talent them in the end. So yeah, man, they need to play better at home. They need to figure that out without question. Yeah. Yep. I agree with that. They need to do a much better job at home for sure. From a coaching standpoint, as you guys have coached the game, right, this and right from a coaching standpoint, is there more of an urgency when you know that travel day kind of takes away from prep opposed to your guys being in the hotel, get into the hotel that Friday night and kind of being more relaxed at home? I'm trying to figure out maybe like what difference is what's the difference and then of course going on the road, you always have a us against the world mentality naturally. Sure. But I just think the prep kind of gets crunched a little bit. Doesn't help. I mean, like natural, I don't know, man, like naturally on the, I think on the road, honestly, Sean, there's just less distractions, right? Like it is like a, you are, cause at home, when you're at your home stadium, everyone's around you still, right? Your family's coming into town, all your friends are here. And I do think that there's, cause I think people kind of paint it the other way of like, oh, there's more distractions when you go on the road, maybe like during the game a little bit. But I think from a preparation perspective, I always enjoyed road games more because I'm just going to someone else's field and I'm just kind of cool, calm and collected. Like, yeah, maybe my parents come, but like I'm not worried about like what party I'm going to after the game and like who I'm hanging out with before, like all those types of things. So I think that does relieve distractions from just like a weekly game planning perspective a little bit. So this might just make sense. Fair enough. We've got a couple here from Iden Benami says, why us? How is this real life all the season for this? I would remind you that Notre Dame did win the game. Another one from Iden, we are so close to closing the gap, not so much right now. Well, I think that was more recruiting. Give it a second, I guess. I don't know. I, do you guys have a response to this that we're so close to closing the gap? Yeah, I think that's kind of a panic response, right, because once again, if you're honest about this team, the energy and the impact is coming from the sophomore class, and you're playing true freshman alone, the offensive line, you'll have a red shore, sophomore is just starting left tackle coming back, you have three, but he's coming in and the freshman class on the offensive line, you got a mirror wagner coming back a right tackle, he's going to have Gerby Lambert behind him, you're going to have Ashton Craig and Billy Shroud back in the year. Dude, offensive line next year is going to be a totally different journey, a totally different journey for this team, which means Jeremiah Love and Jadarian, Jadarian Price should run like crazy next year, the entire running back room, right? So now it's like, you got to get that quarterback right, like who's going to be that person that steps up, that's the develop, that's the leader, that's the energy, who is it? Who earns that, right? So, and I don't want this quarterback battle going into the fall, no, who's the guy? Who is it? Coming out of spring, who is it? Let's get them ready, let's rock and roll, let the players know this is your leader and let's roll and then a defense, I'm like, once again, I'm happy with what's coming back on the defensive line. A hundred percent. I'm totally happy, right? The defensive line's going to be nasty next year, dude, I know we're not trying to do the next year thing because I think that's what you know, like, so that's, yeah, that whole, well, we were close, no, you're still closing the gap from a talent standpoint, that wise you're getting there, you're getting there. So, yeah, I mean, let me ask you something, let me do this the best way you can, Trevor, do you think that Notre Dame isn't close talent wise to some of the best teams in college football? I think that they could play with just about anybody, I just don't think that they are close to gap from a whole scope perspective, like, I think there's something missing here, man, but I don't think it's talents, I really don't. No, I don't think it's talent at all, I mean, you go put somebody like Jeremiah Love on Alabama and see how much attention he's getting, right? I think the hardest thing with college football is it's so hard not to look at it from a week to week basis because, like, that's the only sample size that we get as fans and people that watch the game, but I mean, look at Georgia, they looked unbeatable when they played Clemson. Everybody was talking about, man, who wants to play them, not us, and then look what they did against Kentucky last week, you know, that's why I say it's so hard not to live that week to week just because Notre Dame looks really good against a Purdue team and then they are just this, the entire game. Because I'm not going to sit here and say that Notre Dame played a bad game for 60 minutes. They didn't, they won 28 to three. There's a lot to improve on. Let me say that loud and clear for everybody. There's a lot to be improved on and Notre Dame, by any means, is not a finished product. But it's really hard to not look at, well, Notre Dame was played really well last week and now we've taken 15 steps back. There are areas that did regress this week, but it's hard not to say don't look at it from a week to week basis because we watch it on a week to week basis. But no, I don't think Notre Dame went from being like this close to now, they didn't beat Miami of Ohio by 60 and now they're this far away, right? That's just me. But Ryan, I agree. From a talent perspective, Notre Dame's right there. It's like having Steph Curry and Clay Thompson and running the Bulls Triangle offense. It's like, what are we doing? They're the greatest, two greatest shooters of all time. From pick and roll, spread the court, shoot the three. We're not trying to shoot tools, shoot the three and make layups and that's it. And I'll score everybody. So what if Steph is a defensive liability? We'll find a way to cover that up. He's going to make up with that by making six to eight threes a game. We're just going to blow teams out because they can't stop us and we're going to run them off the court. That's the talent you have now. You have enough talent to literally run teams off the field. You just come out and just run Miami off the field. Just go up tempo, play to the same tempo and speed that you allow your defense to play to and trust your players and still confidence in your guys and still trusting them and let them go play. That's it. Let them go play and let's see what happens. I think it would turn out great. Yep. But talent's definitely not the problem. Vince, I have been doing a great job. We're more than two hours of this show without responding to anything in the chat. But I'm going to do it one time, one time, just a single time. My man says, fancy, bigger picture Riley Leonard can't throw consistently. So you're telling me the biggest picture, the big picture is one facet of the football team, one single player on the football team. All right. Cause got it. Thank you so much. Appreciate you. Not not. There's no other bigger issue there. You're right. You're right. Right. Yeah. That's literally the opposite definition of what a big picture I just don't understand how that's a big picture. I'm talking about like an ideology I'm talking about from the top down. But the biggest issue, the bigger issue is one player on a football team out of 85 scholarships and then plus how many other players they happen to just blows my mind that that is a take. It would be like, it would be like Al goes and playing Tampa too every now with the defensive backs he has. It's like, wait, I have covered corners. No, let me sit back in zone and we sit back in zone and be passive and not come after the quarterback. That would be, it just wouldn't make sense with the talent. It doesn't line up with the talent. And so that makes the fan base feel like that the gap hasn't been closed. Like, we must not have the talent. No, you have the talent. Maybe there's something bigger than that as you talked about double art that's kind of limiting the talent in a way or limiting the output of the town. And just fool for thought. All right, let's move on to and I'm not, I'm not a bears fan. I just understand how pie graphs work and what a whole part of a whole is, I almost said something mean, but I'm going to stop there. Like a pie graph. Look a part of a whole and then we can move on from there. Thank you. That's it. Well, he's the only, he's the only one out there playing offense. Right? It's just one guy. So it's all good. Ryan Elliott. Hey, thanks for the super sticker. Really appreciate you man. Thank you very, very much. Michael S. Thanks for the super chat. Did you see Stanford? Their D line was exceptional made McCord look bad Notre Dame will get a very hard game. Well, of course they're going to get a hard game because everybody considered Stanford arrival because they have a stupid trophy. So of course, they're going to get a hard game from everybody that they play. That's not exactly going out on a limb. But yes, Stanford, look, Stanford is better than they were last year. That's not saying much. That's like saying I ran a faster 42 years ago than I do now. Like that's not, that's not saying a whole lot, right? They had, they had, they could only get better. I'll just say that. They could only get better. So yeah, Stanford's getting better. I think they have a good coach. I think I don't think they're ever going to be an elite team, but they had a good coach and they'll give Notre Dame a run for their money because that's, okay, cool, Stanford. But they're going to need more than just an exceptional D line performance to be Notre Dame. Yeah. Clarence Lewis is on Syracuse. He's not on Notre Dame. He did an interception this week, I think. Oh, really? He did. He also got burned a couple of times, especially towards the end of the game. But I mean, I'm just saying, I'm going to lead my opinion so myself on that one. Yeah, fair. All right. My fairness, that why, hey, Miss Big A, he's a second, first, second round kicking NFL. Oh yeah. That's a pretty darn good receiver. Fair. We'll worry about Stanford during Stanford week. Notre Dame's got their hands full with Louisville this week. So I'll just say that. Alec Aomenor, fantastic name. Alec Aomenor. Such a good name. Aomenor. Aomenor. Aomenor. It's unfortunate. It's here. Right. Yeah. D.A. Anderson fitness. That's a great name. Everybody should go to Kirk D.A. Anderson fitness. I like it. It seems, thank you for the super chat, by the way, it seems that most quarterbacks rarely get better late or in their career when it comes to accuracy. What say you? I don't think what is. I think certain guys plateau and max out their talent and then there are certain guys that finally grow into their talent, right, and it takes a little bit of time. I think, honestly, as much as I've thrown shade in his direction, I've actually enjoyed watching Kate come with the last two weeks. It's against subpar competition, but just watching his mechanics and how he plays the position. Definitely progressing, going through his progressions totally different than he used to. But they made a schematic change, right? They got rid of their bigger receivers and they went to a lot of more explosive receivers. They probably fit his style. Antonio Williams is a good player, man. He's a good player. Yeah. Randall and Williams. Yeah. So. And they got TJ Moore, dude. He's a taller guy. He's going to be good. Yeah. So, I mean, it's a lot that goes into that. Of course, the coaching and the system, but more than likely, you have guys that are instant impact guys. I mean, you aren't man and was a kid that you knew more than like he's going to be a good quarterback. Yeah. We'll see how it turns out. But his floor is pretty is higher than most guys, right? Riley Leonard has all the talent in the world. If you develop him right and build around him, he can eventually become a three thousand dollar passer. I'm not saying that jokingly, I like, no, I think he can, right? And right now, I think his biggest issue is confidence. That's his biggest issue, confidence and with confidence everything. I watched a true freshman walk into Clemson and look as poised and confident as a true freshman can be, right? And North Carolina State might have something on their hands, but that's a kid that's extremely talented. He's just extremely talented. So at the quarterback position is so nuanced, it's so layered, you can take a kid like Miller Moss, who looks, doesn't look like much, but because of Lincoln Riley, you trust that Lincoln Riley is going to put him in the best position to maximize his talents. You already know that because he's already done it. You saw him do it with Jalen Hurts. So yeah, it does a lot that goes into the quarterback position. I agree. I think it's, it's tough to look at. I mean, what do you define as late in their career? You know, I mean, Riley Leonard's 21. I mean, I, a quarterback that I go back to a lot just because I really enjoy watching him play was, was Joe Barrow in college. And I mean, it took Joe Barrow until he was 23 years old to become who he was. So it's tough to say late in your career, especially when you take a deeper dive into where Riley Leonard came from. I mean, he, he had a really good season in 2022 and played all 13 games. And then last year, unfortunately, he got caught with the injury bug and, and he wasn't able to play a full season. And you know, this year, it's, you know, it's, it's really, they said it on the live broadcast when Riley Leonard threw his touchdown pass to Bo Collins today. They were like, this was his first touchdown pass in September of last year. And it's like, and then he didn't play past September of last year. So like it's, you know, it's, it's looking at it with a little bit of context. So I mean, if you're looking at like strictly accuracy, there's so much that goes into it with mechanics and timing and the scheme that you're in. And I don't think that Riley Leonard is inaccurate. I think he's inconsistent. And I think that he has issues with his confidence to, to Sean Davis's point. I mean, it's just I look, the, the short throws are bad. Like I'm, I'm not going to try to sit here and say the short throw misses aren't, aren't that bad. Like that is an issue and it needs fixed, but I, but then you also have, I mean, he couldn't have walked that ball at the Bo Collins, any better than that. I mean, honestly, and you know, you look at some of the deep in routes that he's had to Mitchell Evans on third down the last couple of games and what he did to Chris Mitchell today. So I can't say like overall, he's just in an accurate quarterback and he's just too old to become an accurate passer. I just think he has some other issues that he has to work through. And I think confidence is a big one. Hey, Irish Breakdown listeners, it's Urban Meyer this fall, the game changes. Join me. Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram and broadcaster Rob Stone as we bring you a new perspective on football and culture every week. We will be joined by the biggest name in sports and talk about everything inside and outside of the lines. Let us guide you through a new era of college football. Watch triple option on YouTube or listen on Apple podcast, Spotify or wherever you get podcasts. Hey, Irish Breakdown listeners, it's Matt Liner. I've got a podcast called Throwbacks with actor Jay Farrar, where we'll be talking all things sports, but also so much more. We'll give you the behind the scenes stories from my days as the quarterback on an iconic college football team to Jerry's days as a star on an iconic TV series. So subscribe to throwbacks on YouTube, Apple podcast, Spotify or wherever you get podcasts. All right, let's move on to the next one, fellas, Carson Jackson. Thank you for the super chat. Run D needs to get better ASAP, especially before Louisville, three quarter games. It had three out of the four games. It has been subpar to bad. In my opinion, what are you all seeing as to why? I think the run defense wise, I agree with you, Carson, that stopping the run against Louisville is going to be big, right? Because I think when you hear like offensive mind of Jeff Brom, you're a thoughts media go to quarterback and obviously he is a quarterback guy, but ultimately they want to run the football. I mean, that's what beat Notre Dame last year wasn't Jack Plummer slinging the rock. It was those running backs running the ball down their throat. I mean, that was the difference between that game defensively last year is that they just fell apart because they couldn't stop the run overall. I would say what's the problem? I think one, you're a little small, naturally inside, right? But I think when you're small, naturally inside, you need to be able to create mayhem. Like you need to be able to one gap and create negatives. And I don't think that they're doing that right now. So when you're not creating negatives, you're not doing anything because you also are not taking up a ton of space, ultimately. And then I think just on the second level, great Bowen is going to be a really good player of Notre Dame during the course of his career. I think Kingston is as well. Jay Knaw has various had a lot of flashes. Jalen's need has some flashes at times, but ultimately, all those guys are very inexperienced and young. And linebacker is a spot that we don't talk about enough. You need reps, man. Like you just do. I discipline to find the second level that you can throw an athlete on the second level like a Jalen's need, for instance. But if he's going in the wrong direction or not triggering fast enough, it doesn't matter. He's not going to get to the spot ultimately, right? That is a very proactive position. It's not a reactive position. I fight back against that all the time. You're not reacting to things. You're being proactive with understanding where tendencies go to ultimately and I discipline. So I think the second level needs to get more consistent based upon playing reps. And I think the defensive line wise, you need to get bigger if you're not going to get more impactful ultimately, right? Like that's the issue. Luckily, Gabriel Rubio's coming. Hopefully sometimes soon. Probably not for this next game, but like hopefully sometimes soon he's bigger. You'll be able to help in the inside with size if you're not going to be an impactful tackle for loss type of team. And then I think Jason Onye is the other guy for me. Like I need 47 to play more. I just do. I need him to play more. He is your best interior defensive lineman right now for two straight weeks. He just is flat out your best interior defensive lineman 47 needs to play more. I completely agree with that. All right. Next one from Michael S. How do you expect this whole line to perform at all at a competent level for the running game against Louisville? In other words, I guess, can they do it against Louisville? Yeah, they can do it. We've seen look, we've seen them be very, very confident in the run game. That's not my issue. I don't. I personally do not have an issue with Notre Dame's offensive line in the run game. I don't. They as a as a whole, specifically the left side, they need to be better in the past game. But in the run game, yeah, there were some misfits and some things like that today, but they still ran for 270 yards. You got to give some credit to the offensive line when that does occur. And they're actually pretty darn good at run blocking. And now that Rocco Spindler is in, he's a really good run blocker, right? And you know, Pat Coogan doesn't have to take guys on one on one anymore. He's going to be doubling every single time. So Pat Coogan's going to be fine too, to be perfectly honest with you. So this offensive line will be fine pass block, I mean, excuse me, run blocking against Louisville. My question is, can they pass block against Louisville well enough to win the game? That's the question to me. Sure. A lot of it too. It's a, it's a consistency question for me. It's not a skill question. They absolutely have the ability to perform against Louisville's defensive line. So I showed that they did it against Texas A&M's defensive line, who is a pretty good D line, pretty big too. So yeah, I, it goes back to what we were talking about before. It's not a skill question. It's a level of consistency question. And that's what I would be more concerned about. So if that is what your super chat is geared towards, and then I agree with you, I'm hoping that the consistency level starts to remain a little bit more constant, but it, it's not a skill question for me. They absolutely have the skill to do. Yes. And we've seen it. It's not something that we just think or something that we analyze from high school film or whatever. Like we've seen these five guys dominate in the run game, like we've seen it, they just need to do it with more consistency to Trevor's point. So great super chat, Michael, I appreciate you very much. John Massey. Thanks for the super chat. 24 stats equals close to senior Eric Crouch. Well, Eric Crouch won the Heisman Trophy. So we don't, we don't talk about Eric Crouch from this podcast. I'm a Rams fan. The Rams drafted him in the third round and they never played because he refused to move the wide receiver. We don't talk Eric Crouch from this podcast. This is true. This is true. Were you a Rams fan when, when they were in St. Louis? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm going to rest in my entire life. And I remember them. I still remember them drifting in the third round to play wide receiver. And then after the draft, he said he's not playing receiver. I'm just like, so we just wasted a third round pick. Awesome. Great. Fantastic. Dude, how old were you when Eric Crouch got drafted? Like eight? I was going to say single digits, right? Yeah. That's hilarious. Yeah. You were still. That's what you keep for being a Rams fan. I've seen two Super Bowls of my lifetime. That's more championship than I see you being a Notre Dame fan. So what are we talking about here? It's more championships than I've seen as a Bears fan. So there you go. Tell them about it, Vince. It's all to us about hibernation when it comes to championships. They won their last championship when I was four. So there you go. Wide receiver, too. Someone said in the chat, they wanted him to play wide receiver. He probably would have been a good safety, too. That was a great athlete. Yeah. It was wide. I actually remember that. It was wide receiver. And he's like, no, I'm not doing it. He won't get the play quarterback, man. I'm just like, well, he's got something in the NFL that if you want to play quarterback. Yeah. He got some bad advice. Let's just let's just leave it at that. He got some bad advice from somebody. Sure do. All right. Carson Jackson. Thank you so much for the super chat. What's lettered seeing on anything more than RPO or one guy reads or receivers not open or is he just not pulling the trigger? Trigger seems better today when he knew what he wanted pre-snapped for sure. He went through his reads today, like second and third quarter. I thought he went through his reads pretty well and he was snapping the ball off with confidence and accuracy first quarter. It was rough. It was rough. There's a lot of rough things for Notre Dame in the first quarter. One of his best throws was a dig to Chris Mitchell, where I don't think that was his first read. I'm pretty sure that was the backside big. So like he had to go to the front side to get to the backside. So I think it's just very simplistic to say he's not going through his reads. I don't think that's true. Do I think that he's late on a lot of things? Yeah. 100% I think he's late, but that doesn't mean you're not going through your reads. It just means you're late. Correct. Well, and historically with Leonard so far this season, his issue wasn't going through his reads. It was going through them too quickly. Yeah, exactly. Right. So for me, I would err specifically for this super jet. I would err more on the side of not pulling the trigger. And it's for all the reasons that we talked about it being afraid to make a mistake. And that gets pounded into your head from somewhere. And I'm sure we all know where that comes from. But I don't think that you can evaluate Riley Leonard looking him, being afraid to pull the trigger is not getting through his reads because if you just watch the game, he's not just locked into one guy and then only not throwing into that one guy. So I think sometimes when he gets hurried and pushed out of the pocket, he runs through his read progression too quickly. We've seen that a lot in previous games where if he waited that additional second, he has guys come open. I don't even want to say late, but he has guys come open late down the field. So I think it's just a trigger thing. It's a confidence piece. Sean hit the nail right on the head with that one. He's just afraid to make a mistake. All right. Next super chat from Michael S is Mills just waiting to go pro and not get hurt. It can't be his mindset, Michael. It can't be. Riley Mills had mid to late draftable grades in this preseason and some priority for agent grades. Like this guy wasn't a bonafide going top hundred player, right? Like that he came back to improve his draft stock. Like he came back for that reason. He could have went to the NFL and probably been a late round draftable guy after this past season. If anything, he's been hurting himself. So no, I don't think it's like coasting because you don't think he's playing well. I mean, like, I don't know how else to put it. Like I just don't, I don't think it's a lack of effort with Riley Mills. I just don't think Riley Mills is playing well. And, and let's be honest double R. It's a big picture ideology thing to cause we're expecting things from these guys and they've maxed out if we're being honest, they maxed out. You accidentally put on 40 to 50 pounds when they get here. Once again, it's ideology, like you're going out and getting kids that are 230 to 40 in high school and you're putting a ton of weight on them. You're asking them to play inside instead of just going and getting guys that you have to add 20 pounds of muscle and they're used to playing inside with strength is, it, you know, it's a lot. And then when they reach their peak, it's like you expect, what else do you expect me? He's kids. I'm not bad at Robbie Mills. He's maxed out at another day. He's maxed out. How it crossed? We didn't even expect this from how it crossed. He's over achieved. And I thought at best he was a role player in order to aim when he was young. Absolutely. When he pretty much forced Jacob Lacey to make a decision because he started taking reps, it's like it was kind of an eye opener to everyone. And so, you know, you tipped your cap. You know what I mean? We're upset because we feel like we would love for them to show up, but when you really take a step back and look at their journey, you tipped your cap and say, hey, these kids go, they got the bed, they're squeezing out just about everything they have based upon what Notre Dame is asking them to do, schematically. And that's a lot. So I mean, maybe, you know, this is something that needs to be moving forward, needs to be answered from a recruiting standpoint. But you know, I think it points to our expectations that we have of these guys. If you expected Robbie Miller to come in and give you eight to 10 sacks, you, yeah, you probably don't know. You're going to be disappointed. How about that? Absolutely. Bottom line, right? You're going to be disappointed. So we got another one here from Irish MP 78. Thank you very much for the super chat bottom line up front is today's performance. Good enough to beat Louisville, Georgia Tech, and USC. In the vacuum? No, this is not good enough to beat either one of those teams. But again, it's, it's a problem, I think. But ultimately, I do think Notre Dame's going to come to play next week because they lost to Louisville last year and they're away from their stadium this and for whatever reason that matters a lot this year, right? So Notre Dame tends to play up to the level of competition and play down to the level of competition. So I'm actually not worried about Notre Dame playing a good game against Louisville. We could talk about like sustainability and whether that's going to be good for the long term or even good in that game against Louisville. But I actually think that they're going to come to play against Louisville and might be so good of me. But like, I think that the track record of the last couple of years does say that that's probably going to happen more than likely at this point. The only problem with the Louisville game is it's a home game, at least Georgia Tech and USC are on the road. So fairly confident about those two being a little sarcastic, but not really, I guess is the best way to put that. But you're right, you know, in a vacuum, it's not good enough, right? But I just don't think they're going to play like this against those teams. They may play like this against Army and Navy and we might be having this same conversation where people are getting ready to jump off of a ledge after they won by 25 points. But it's not good enough. I mean, we talked about it, right? The run game defensively is not good enough. The past game overall, probably not good enough, you know, they have to be better. They have to be better, right? They have to be better. So we'll see. Look, the only thing we can all do guys is wait seven days and find out. That's the best medicine I can tell you. I can't predict what's going to happen. I've been trying to predict what Notre Dame is going to do for how long now. It's impossible. I'll just say that it's impossible to predict what Notre Dame is going to do. So we're all going to wait together seven days and we're going to find out. Yeah, I mean, the transit of property doesn't work like that in college football, like it just doesn't because you could also flip it on its head and say, well, based on the way Georgia Tech and USC played today, is it going to be good enough to beat Notre Dame? USC couldn't stop Michigan on the ground to save their lives. Michigan passed for 37 yards today. You know what I mean? You can look at it both ways. Look, to Ryan's point, if you take exactly how the game went today and insert Louisville's defense in instead of Miami of Ohio's, probably not, you know, but who knows how either team is going to show up. Georgia Tech, their marquee win was against a team that is now 0 and 3 and beating. I think they're playing, I think they're playing Cal today. I think they're beating Cal seven to six going into the third quarter. I don't know, man. Like, it's so tough to say like, if Notre Dame played the exact same way today with the exact same play calls and the exact same penalties, and I don't know, probably not for Louisville. But it's just so hard to say because you just don't know. And I think that's a great point, Trevor, because I think Notre Dame played awful against Louisville. And it was a one possession game and a second half and Marcus Freeman kind of panics and he goes forward and fourth down in his own territory, and then he opens up to it. So as bad as they played, they were right there against Louisville. So if you're just using that, and I think that Louisville team last year is a better team than the team they're going to be facing next week. So you know, football is stylistic in so many ways. It just is. The stylistic in so many ways, so styles may fight. We don't know how this matchup is going to look if you expect it to be similar to, you know, what Georgia Tech and Louisville gave you today. You know, if you expect it to be similar to, you know, the output, the output today could have been to for a note of that, if Riley Leonard doesn't fumble, Jordan, I mean, Jordan Faison doesn't fumble, I mean, look, Dorothy, if Notre Dame doesn't give away possessions and still plays lackluster, they could have put up 42 points today, right? So I mean, you just never know, right, Ryan talked about it. You never know which way the ball is going to bounce. Like Notre Dame could literally have two defensive touchdowns early in the game next week and just coast because it puts Louisville in the position to not be patient with the run game. And that's how to throw against what we already talked about, right? Absolutely. So in the offense could still struggle, but I mean, like I said, they're up 14 zip because of the defense. So you just, you never know how these things, these games are going to go agreed. Completely agree. Josh Phillips, sloppy start, but I thought they finished strong. Yeah, I don't, I don't disagree with that. It was a very sloppy start. I mean, I would have liked them to finish maybe a little bit stronger, but it was a very, very sloppy start. I mean, those first three offensive possessions were awful and they were awful, right? And we already talked about what the defense gave up, you know, on the ground in the first half. I mean, it's not okay, right? So that that's my biggest issue, I guess, is they need to do a better job of starting off fast or starting off strong. You can't, you can't give up 75 rush yards in the first half to a team that had like what, 60 or something coming into the game total in two games, 64, you can't do that, right? Trevor, you can't, you can't do that and expect for everybody to be excited about the way you're playing. You can't, you can't start off like that. And if they start off like that against a good opponent like Louisville next week, it's probably not going to be a three to nothing game. It's probably going to be something a little bit different. Iden Benami. Thanks for the super chat. Hey, Dan Brock, where are you at? I do listen to my boss and maybe it's just me, but if I'm going down or we're bad, I'm going down my way slash swinging. I felt like he went, he did it his way last week. The problem was I don't feel like they built off of it this week. That's my, that's my biggest issue. We saw pieces of it. We saw pieces and parts of what they did last week. I just don't think that they built off of what they did last week. That's the bigger, the bigger issue for me. I think that plays into what Trevor said about, no, I think Ryan and Trevor both touched doing it with Marcus Freeman's approach in the free game. Why are we doing, why are you talking about Miami? Talk about how we're going to execute what we want to do and then go take the ball off. Why, who cares what Miami bring us to the game? They can't stop you. You're more talented. Do what you want. Work on what you feel like you need to work on and execute to evolve this offense. That is troubling. That's troubling. Well, I think we saw a little bit of it today to this point. I mean, you have your head coach who in the free game is talking about how every drive has to be methodical and Miami is coming in here and they're a good defense that you have to put long methodical drives on. I mean, from really midway through the second quarter until the end of the third quarter, I saw Notre Dame take more deep shots in that span of time than they did the entire season so far. I think there was a little bit of Mike Denbrock maybe and this is pure speculation. I don't know this to be true, but I think there was a little bit of, you know, Mike Denbrock putting his foot down saying, "Hey, we're pushing the ball down the field. Have to." Because I mean, if you want to talk about something that's not in Marcus Freeman's identity, it's that. I mean, heck, the dude even said it in the Northern Illinois game. We don't need to be pushing the ball down the field. Play with it our offense, you know, and then you have this game. I do think Mike Denbrock a little bit kind of came over the top and said, "We just need to do this to give our guys a chance," and to Vince's point earlier, like we talked about, four deep shots, one was a touchdown, you got three DPI's and a little bit came into it. You know what's funny? Just thinking about that before the NIE game, you know, he says, "Just play within the offense." And then at the biggest moment, they take the shot and throw it in the section, right? And then today he says, "We need to be methodical, but then this is the game you throw down the field more than any." It's like, it's not even lying at all, but what you're saying? Like you're saying this and then the plant, so maybe there is a disconnect, right? Maybe Denbrock needs to be a little bit more vocal about, you know, this is what we have to do, right? Because I think he knows early on he has to get Riley comfortable in the past. Yeah. And to find, he knows that. I agree. I think the frustrating thing, and you hit on it earlier, is the inconsistency at quarterback, because last week they did a really good job of getting Riley in a rhythm. You know, the first play was a little touch pass to Jayden Harrison. You know, and the next pass play was a little motion play action. You roll Riley out, you had Bo Collins out there in the flat and he hit both of those throws. I mean, I would assume he would hit a jet pass for completion, but you know, and then this game, it was the exact opposite. You know, all throws under 10 yards, it was, especially in the first quarter, was very, I guess we'll see what happens. And then everything beyond the marker, I mean, everything passed. What felt like 10, 12 yards was pretty accurate for the most part, missed a couple. But I don't remember the last time I saw a quarterback with a statline 30 for 30, unless I'm just not watching the right football. But you know, I don't know, man, I think that consistency is the overall issue here, because as an offensive coordinator and as a play caller, you go into a game with a game plan to get him comfortable and in a rhythm. And when you're not doing that and when the players aren't executing on that game plan, you kind of have to scramble a little bit. I think that's where the disconnect is and stuff. And that does, to Marcus Freeman's point, comes down to that execution button that he's absolutely hammering, because there is truth to that. I mean, if you have a game plan where you are needing to have your quarterback in order for him to get into a rhythm, you need him to hit these five, six yard out routes, and he's not. That throws a wrench in everything. All right, Idon Benami with another super chat, maybe throw a 1v1. I agree. J love needs more rock. There were multiple 1v1s thrown today, just FYI. But yeah, we wanted to see that. No doubt. Michael asked with another super chat. Are they conservative because of a weak offensive line? I think they're conservative because of the inconsistency. They don't know what they're going to get weak to weak. Unfortunately, I think that's what it is. Again, like I'm going to stay very consistent with this point. This is not a skill issue. Notre Dame does not have a skill issue. They have a consistency issue. And that's just, that's where I leave with this. Like I, I think it's conservative. I think their offense is conservative because it's easy. It's a lot harder to take risks when like you don't know what you're going to get weak to weak. So I think the consistency button needs fixed. Like that's the issue that needs fixed. It's not a, I just don't think our guys are that good. Idon, how do you ask to freshman to be consistent, freshman or inconsistent? Yeah, exactly. That's what you're going to get. And that is the difficulty for Mike Dembrock to try to cultivate these game plans, right? And like you said, Trevor, you start out with a beautiful set of passes for your quarterback to get comfortable. And then it's like, you got Cooper Flanagan just slamming his helmet on the sideline like dude. Yeah, it's frustrated. Frustration. Right. And that zaps the energy of the offense, just that like, yo, you can't complete these passes. Now you have guys frustrating on the sidelines. So yes, in every area, the most complete room is probably the running backs. Now, you know what you're going to get every week. You know the level of execution that you're going to get every week. And so yeah, for Mike Dembrock right now, it is a, he's going to be in the film room a lot this week, he's probably in there right now. Right. No celebration. Like that's figured this out for next week. Let's see here, DK, just a super chat because of Ryan and Sean's good looks, Trevor's knowledge and Vince's love friend, Jelly, you got to pay for me to say craziness like that DK. So I appreciate you though. Thank you for the super chat, but everything else except for the last part is absolutely accurate, absolutely accurate, Tyler Evans, thanks for the super chat. Who knew Mac teams can take 10 years off your life and Mr. Davis, a nice win yesterday over Nebraska. I predicted it and everybody laughed at me. I told him, I said, we're coming. We're coming. I see a line. I look good, man. He won't be baby. My home's after the game. I told everybody. It would be a one possession game, but we would have to make a stop late. That's exactly what we did. That's what we did. But once again, we can tie this in another day. Look, man, Brett Beelam is going to be him. You don't do you know what Brett Beelam and teams are going to do. They're going to play defense and they're going to run the rock and play action you to death. That's it. Running backs, full backs into the flat, tight ends, banana routes. Nothing's changed since Wisconsin. He went to Arkansas. Same thing. That's what we're looking for from know to name, like get the identity and execute it. Agreed. Agreed, but it's a big win for the Align Eye. There's no doubt about that. That's a big win as a big win to go in there and do what they did. So yeah, completely agree with that. Last one at the moment, gentlemen, Lou Holtz, thunder and bolts. I'm starting to wonder if Coach Marcus Freeman knows how to build a program team building, perhaps program building. The inconsistency has me very concerned. I think it has all of us concerned. We talk about the roller coaster, right? It's the inconsistency. It has. Yeah, but you know, everything's different, man, and I know right now I do. I'm sorry, man. He wins 10 games this year. On one hand, I'm going to say, yo, that was a gritty grind at this season out, especially with the injuries, the key injuries in the inconsistencies on offense. He had to coach. They had to coach and grind this out. And then on the other hand, you know, big picture, you're going to have to look at some of the things that we have been exhausted about tonight and talking about. So it's like, it's a lot of different ways you can look at it, and you can use an example like Dabo. It's like there was a time where the fan base thought was saying the same thing about him and as soon as he got the quarterback position right, wait a minute, see, here's the similarity. As soon as Dabo got the quarterback position right, look what happened. All of a sudden, they're in championship games to get two titles. They have a rival to Alabama. So that we, ladies and gentlemen, we all see it. We know what it is. Next week, if it is the beginning of Riley Leonard becoming consistent at the quarterback position, know the name is going to be a problem. Yep. They're going to be a problem. Agreed. And as simple as that. Yep. Like Trevor said, multiple times. It's not a talent issue. It's not a talent issue. We all know the things that need to take that next step. We know. So it's just now we'll see if they can do it. Yep. Need to see it week to week. And anybody, you know, people in the chat were talking about, is this a playoff team? Not even going down that road, man. I just want them to win the rest of the games in September. How about that? How about that? You know, literally it's one step at a time, one game at a time, one step at a time. So that's, that's where we're at right now. So we'll see how everybody reacts next week, if Notre Dame gets the win, what it looks like, you know, if they, if they win, it's, that's a win and it's okay to be happy and we'll analyze and we'll talk about the game and all of those different things, you can be happy when your team wins the game. All right. I just, I just want to say that as like one of my last things, it's okay to be happy. You don't have to live in negativity to be happy. Okay. It's okay to be happy. Your, your team, I assume people who are in this chat, Notre Dame is your team. Your team won the game today. Take a breath. It's okay. Life is okay. So gentlemen, any final words? The last thing that I'm going to say, and it kind of goes back to what we were talking about, like identity of a football team and playing aggressive and whatnot. This is very minor, but it's also really big at the same time for the culture of the program. This was the second game where I've seen and this goes to whoever your quarterback is. So this is not a Riley Leonard thing. Okay. Let me, let me say this loud and clear. It could be Leonard and jelly, minchy, car, whoever. This is the second time I've watched a Notre Dame quarterback get questionably hit late. The first time in the Texas A&M game, the guy was ejected for targeting. This time, yeah, sure, his white cleat was barely touching the white chalk, whatever. But both times I saw, you know, the O line is supposed to have the quarterbacks back at all times. And sometimes you see it just from a cultural standpoint of like, you get in somebody's face a little bit. I'm not talking about swinging on anybody. I'm not talking about starting a bench clearing sideline brawl, but like, I think you want to talk about like something that helps build any quarterbacks confidence is knowing that the guys that are supposed to protect you between the whistle will also go out and protect you outside of the whistle too. And like that's it. That's a very minor thing for me. And I don't want to sit down and nitpick that. But also at the same time, the way that I look at that is like you hear announcers talk about it all the time when, you know, they see their quarterback hit late, three linemen immediately are in the face of the guy who does it. And so far it's happened to Riley Leonard so far twice this year and they just kind of mosey on over and help up Riley and drop back to the huddle to make sure that nobody gets in trouble. I think at some point you have to kind of take a stand. And I think that like little snippet of that is kind of true to how Notre Dame has played so far this year. It's just like, we're just going to like try to do it right, but not be too aggressive with anything. Like I said, I'm not asking anybody to go out and start a fistfight. But I think that's something that I noticed and I don't know why it just, it's been sticking with me today. And I didn't really have a good enough time to bring it up until now. So, but that's, I like it. It's my two cents. I'll be petty Trevor. The old line ran in and jelly when he got the personal file late in the game. Go watch. Fair enough. I mean, the fact that you just brought that up and I vividly remember when they finally panned and jelly getting up, it was like three offensive linemen around when he got that lead hit call. So if that's what you've seen in those two instances this season, it's hard, man. Like, you know, the seat on your chest for decoration is one thing. The respect is not about what's on your chest. Mate, as Trevor points out, like dude, it doesn't, you're the guy. This is what we do as an operation, right? But your, your dogs are injured. The ones that would probably do it, Billy Schruff would probably be that dude. Ashton Craig would probably be that guy. You know, Charles Jagasso would probably be one of those guys and you know, you're expecting the freshmen and the freshmen, they need to follow the other guys. They need to see the other guys doing it and then they'll do it. So it's just, it's a lot going on, man. It's a lot. Oh, yeah. It's a lot going on. I'm glad you brought that up though. I'm glad you brought that up. You know, it's seen more natural because I guess they spent more time with Steve. So maybe it's seen more natural in the situation and it will. Yeah. And that was the second group too, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. It's a different group of guys. But yeah, your point still stands. I mean, no doubt about it. So fellas, that's going to do it for our little post game show talking about Notre Dame's 28 to three win over Miami, Ohio. We will be back tomorrow. Brian and I will be back with a pawn further review at seven o'clock and then following that show on Monday, there will be all kinds of film breakdowns posted over on the boards. So you're going to want to get on the boards, boards on Irish Breakdown, excuse me.com. And of course, like, subscribe, hit that notification bell, share with your family and friends, all of those different things. And then we will be back Monday night, Ivy Nation Sports Talk, six o'clock, or excuse me, five o'clock, Sean and I will be talking about, you know, Marcus Freeman's press conference. And then, you know, that'll be Sean's first opportunity to talk about the game. And so we'll do that. And then we'll be turning the page Louisville, because that is the next game on the schedule. So gentlemen, thanks for hanging with me tonight. Thanks, chat for hanging with us and just a friendly reminder to everyone out there in Notre Dame land. They did win today. It's okay to be happy. We're all happy. All right. So for Trevor, for Sean, for Ryan, I'm Vince and we will talk to you next time on the Irish Breakdown podcast. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] What's next at Moss Adams that question inspires us to help people and their businesses strategically define and claim their future. 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