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So sorry for your luck on that one fellas, I'm sure that people were hoping that the great Steve Angeli was gonna throw another touchdown pass and get that spread taken care of for you. But he did not, and they did not. So again, final score 28 to 3, little anticlimactic there at the end. Both teams put their backups in, so with the game pretty much out of reach. But a lot to talk about in this one, boys, the beginning of this game. And I'll let you guys kind of give me your gut reactions. And that's kind of how we always do things around here in the post game show. But I'll tell you what, the game kind of started out very similarly as to the last home game that Notre Dame had against Northern Illinois just ended a little bit differently. So glad that Notre Dame got the W, but it feels like there is a bit of regression. In a lot of areas, frankly. So I'm gonna go, we'll go around the horn, Brady Bunch style, Trevor. Why don't you start us off and let us know what you thought. Your overall gut reaction to Notre Dame's 28 to 3 win over Miami, Ohio. >> Yeah, it was a weird game, man. It didn't feel like Notre Dame won 28 to 3. I think that's, it didn't, but it did, I guess if that makes sense. I mean, it was a weird, it was a weird game to watch. It was frustrating. At the end of the day, I am happy with a win. I'm never gonna be, you know, more upset about a win than a loss. But there are some, I guess you'd call it moral losses in this one. It's weird, right? Cuz, you know, if you would have told me if I didn't watch the game and you guys would have texted me and said, hey, Riley Leonard had almost 300 total yards of offense through a passing touchdown, three total yards of, or three total touchdowns. Defense held Miami of Ohio to no touchdowns and only three points allowed. It would have been great, but watching the game, you know, eight penalties for 66 yards. Muffed punt, bad snap on a field goal, all things that I know we're gonna dive into later. It was a very weird game. It was almost from drive to drive, it was one of those one step forward, two step back kind of thing. So lots to talk about, lot to dive into. My initial gut reaction, one, happy with the win, two good things happen when you push the ball down the field, which again, I know we'll dive more into later. But we will, we'll see what happens throughout this week. Cuz there's a lot that needs to be corrected, but overall a wins a win, I suppose. But Notre Dame can't have too many more of those, more of those types of wins. So Sean hit us. Trevor, I think you hit the nail right in the head. And I'll just go ahead and add this quickly so we can get to double R. I just really think that they did show, I asked last week or two weeks ago, can they show me that they can play bad and win? They play bad and win. But as quickly as I say that, I looked at Northern Illinois losing the Buffalo and Miami, Ohio is just really, they're not good, they're not good, right? They came in as the worst Russian team in all of CMB, and they ran the ball. They ran the ball, and that was disappointing. It is almost like this season is going to be, if Notre Dame is able to pull this together and somehow some way, getting to the playoffs, this is going to be one of the grittiest seasons in Notre Dame history. This is going to be a gutted out gritty season for them to get to the playoffs. And I think that's a far departure from my expectations to start the season. And I'm along here for the ride. I just don't see the juice. I see the juice from the sophomores, but like trying to find the juice from the captains and the seniors on this team, I don't know where it's at. But they're the ones that seem like they come out dead. I see Bovacar fired up, I saw a junior too. LaMakar coming off with his air on fire early in the game, right? Christian Gray making plays, Drake Bowen amped up like I see the youngsters. I see the fire in the youngsters. 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Well, I mean, I think I'll work off at that first part real quick, Sean, because I think it's a good lead in right is that I question the lack of leadership on this team right now. And that's not just from the players. And we'll talk about the six year seniors that we hoped would be dudes for the football team that just aren't playing like dudes, but I think it really starts from the top down. So I typically go, I'm going to blame the adult in the room, not the kid in the room, right ultimately. So I wanted to start us out Vince, because I know Trevor talked about a nice little blurb from Marcus Freeman before the pregame of Northern Illinois. I wanted to start us out here with the Miami, Ohio pregame where Marcus Freeman said, and this is, this is a little bit condensed because he had a long response to this, but basically he talked about the challenges that that Miami, Ohio played and his quote was, they should be confident coming here. They have a defense that forces you to be methodical. And you have to understand that we are going to do what they let us do. And my friends, you are the University of Notre Dame. You do not let Miami do what they do. You force them to be what you are, or what you want them to be. Why the passive approach, the minute I heard that, Sean, like the minute I heard that, I was like, because I got into this game, feeling very confident that Notre Dame was going to come out on fire because of what happened two weeks ago. The minute I heard that quote, I was like, oh man, it's going to be a struggle bus today, isn't it? Like it's going to be a struggle because this team played complacent. They played passive. Why did they do that? Because of what the head coach is putting into this program. I mean, like at the end of the day, I look back at that quote and I'm like, why did Notre Dame play the way that they did today? Because I think they were prepared that way. They were told all week to take the play that's there. No, man, you be the aggressor. You go take the play. You don't take what they give to you. I hated that quote, hated it. So for going to look at this performance, a 28 to three victory, it was one, and I think Trevor, you said it, it was a win. It felt like a win, but it didn't actually feel like a win. It didn't. It did not feel like progress, in my opinion, progress in the sense of you played poorly in one, but not progress in you played very well last week against Purdue. Now let's continue to play really well in a vacuum. You did not play well. And I think that that there is a fundamental issue and we're going to talk about the Inconsys is a quarterback. We're going to talk about offensive line regression. We're going to talk about a run defense that lit up 75 yards in the first down and let a five yards per carry to a team that was averaging 1.4 yards a carry coming to this football game. We're going to talk about all that guys, but I've come back to this multiple times over the last couple of weeks. There is a fundamental issue here that we are choosing to ignore and instead of talking about the actual issue, the bigger issue, the full landscape issue, we're focusing on one player. We're focusing on two players, maybe three players, we're passing blame on single entities. When there is the only single entity in Notre Dame is Notre Dame and there is an issue at the University of Notre Dame right now. When you say we, are you talking about fans or are you talking about us because we talked about the fundamental issue like all week after the NIU game? I think it's a collective a little bit. Now, I'm not talking about us in particular. I think that we have been very fair in the blame. I'm saying as a collective, there are far too many people. I shouldn't have made it an absolute Vince. My apologies. Like there is, there is far too many people that are choosing to blame one player or even two players or three players when in words, in my opinion, there is a much larger issue here. Yeah, we can talk about, let's see this one player more, let's see these two players more. And maybe that will be a small band A, but I don't think that that outlasts the overall bigger issue. And I think that that issue was shown to me before the game even started. When I heard that pregame speech, I'm like, that's a problem, man. That's a problem. When did Notre Dame become the passive reactive program? When did they stop being the aggressor? When did they stop being the dictator? When did they stop against Miami, Ohio? We weren't playing Ohio State today. We weren't playing Georgia today. We were playing Alabama today. We were playing a team that you should have treated like you were going to beat their, you know what in like, that's how you should have treated this football team and you treated them as equals and you treated them reactionary. And I dislike the whole process here. Night. Hey, Irish breakdown listeners. It's Urban Meyer. This fall, the game changes, join me, Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram and broadcaster Rob Stone as we bring you a new perspective on football and culture every week. We will be joined by the biggest name in sports and talk about everything inside and outside of the lines. Let us guide you through a new era of college football. Watch triple option on YouTube or listen on Apple podcast, Spotify, or wherever you can get podcasts. Hey Irish breakdown listeners. It's Matt liner. I've got a podcast called throwbacks with actor J. Ferare. We'll be talking all things sports, but also so much more. We'll give you the behind the scenes stories from my days as the quarterback on an iconic podcast, Spotify or wherever you get podcasts. And then I just want to jump in because I've been looking at the chat and double art. I couldn't be more disappointed because of what you said. It goes right into what I'm seeing in the chat. We have been put into a place or settled into a place, even as a fan base. It will say it was three points to yards don't matter. See that's what Notre Dame is right now. They're not chasing excellence. They're chasing the team they're facing. They don't have a Notre Dame standard. We just need to beat the team in front of us. Well, if you have a standard of excellence, it doesn't matter who you're facing because we're playing to our standard and no matter who the opponent is, we're going to kick their tail. We're going to physically mall them, we're going to dominate defensively, we're going to run the ball and we're going to make big plays down the field in the passing game. That's our standard. That should be the speech from market streamer every week, a race to schedule off the boards in the locker room. It doesn't matter who we're playing because our intention is going to be the exact same every week. This is the standard. That's where it is at Georgia. That's where it was on the Nick Saban in Alabama. You want to talk, you're talking about winning the national championship, buddy, that's where you have to get to as a program. It's up and down based upon the schedule and the opponent, that's unacceptable. And it brings the fan base to a point V8, Willie gave up three points. To the worst rushing offense in college football, what is the standard? You're two all pros at defensive tackle. Where are you? How are you giving them five yards? That's unacceptable. I don't care. Do we all knew I predicted Miami, Ohio wasn't going to go double digits and points. They're bad. But we have settled enough into a place to accept things that are not at the level of championship football. That's not championship football, man. That's not. That's not getting it done and it's the third year of this regime. We have to start seeing some hints of championship caliber football. That's the expectation. That was the expectation. I didn't care who the quarterback was this year. I needed to see this program playing at a level of championship caliber football. Period. We could get a chunk. Chunk it away. One thing real quick, and then I know this, we don't want this to be this type of show, right? So we're going to move on to the positives to the negatives and we're going to break it all down. Vince, I apologize. I know you're steering the ship, but we're taking it off the rails a little bit. You guys are good. I was going to bring it back. Don't worry. Yeah. Is that I kind of hope, and this is sounds crazy for me, right? I kind of hope Notre Dame makes a quarterback change at this point. I wish they would make a quarterback change because we are going to see a different looking product, but that major issue is still going to be the same. It's still going to be there, man. We can pretend like it's not going to be, but that doesn't. That isn't the reason that Notre Dame comes out awful. No energy for a football game, man. We can pretend like it is, but I kind of hope that Notre Dame just goes to Steve Angeli at some points and we can see what it looks like because I think, man, I think Vince, I think eventually we can have a real conversation here because then when it's passing games better, but run game stalls out a little bit and we're still kind of limited and we still don't play well in the biggest moments, then we can finally have the conversation of like, Oh, maybe it's not just a quarterback. Maybe there's an actual issue here that we're just using anybody that knows how to watch football knows that's not the answer. We don't have to put him on the field to have that conversation. We know that that's exactly what would happen. You know what I mean? Anybody that knows anything about football knows that that would be the outcome if they did that. So I don't need to see it. I don't need to see it, right? I don't need to see that my kids are going to be upset if my wife and I get a divorce. We don't need to do it just to see how it happens. Like that. I'm sorry. It's not about the quarterback. We might come into the season. This season was never about the quarterback. We know the more dynamic quarterback on the roster is, we don't even have to have that debate. That's not the point. There's bigger issues and every week there are holes popping in the damn. We think we plug one and another one pops open over here and then we have to use our leg to get this one over here and then we're having to use our other foot to plug this one over here. In the season, we're not going to have enough limbs to be able to cover everything. That is the direction this is going. If the things that Trevor and Ryan pointed out don't get fixed at the core of the issue, at the core of the issue and we look, it is, it's bigger than just the players. It goes to, it goes up the tree. It flows up, usually things slow down because of gravity. Well, in Notre Dame's position, things definitely are going up if you want to figure out what's really wrong right now. But I am, I need to see them win a game that they played bad. I need to see that. Fair enough to see that. As Marcus Freeman after the game said, look, we faced that first to be in this game. He's right. Some of it, most of it was self-inflicted though. Most of it was self-inflicted. Agreed. Because I don't think Miami, Ohio, they never had anything that could really threaten Notre Dame. They did. So the adversity was self-inflicted. They overcame it and they were able to win the game. That's, for me, that's something that I needed to see and I think it bodes well going into this next matchup where I don't, this is a crazy thing. I don't think they're going to have a problem finding energy next week. I don't. He gets a lot of the big games. I don't. You get the opponent. We know this. This is not new. Yeah. It's, we talked about this, right? It's the roller coaster and you can't be a consistently good football team if that is how you are going to approach each game in a roller coaster of emotion. Like you can't, you can't do it. This team came out flat. They came out as flat as you could possibly come out against a team that's really not that good. Right? They're not that good. They're 0 and 3 now. Like they're not that good. You guys have said it. You can't run the ball, but they did against Notre Dame. Okay. Bottom line. They did. They ran the ball when they needed to. There were now the difference, I guess, in this game as opposed to Northern Illinois is that in big moments, Notre Dame kind of stepped up and stopped them from running. Right? They stopped them on what? It was a fourth down, I want to say, and got to turn over on downs. They weren't doing that against Northern Illinois. So okay, I guess we, little everybody check mark there as progress. But the problem is, and I love your analogy, Sean, about plugging the holes in the dam and then more holes keep appearing. That's accurate, in my opinion. Like I was never, as I was watching this game and I kind of watched it on fast forward. I was just literally watching the plays and then hitting fast forward and watching another play and hitting fast forward while driving. So that was fun. But it never felt to me that Notre Dame was going to lose this game. I never, I never got that, I never felt that, right? And frankly, I never had that feeling in the Northern Illinois game until the final drive to be perfectly honest with you, okay? But I never had that feeling today because Notre Dame was doing enough to score, right? The fourth drive that Notre Dame had offensively, it was a good drive. You know, you can say, okay, they can obviously do it, and then they did it a few more times. But the fundamental problem, and I agree with all of you on that, the fundamental problem is bigger than any one position, Ryan. I completely agree with you on that. So the fact that anybody is even having a conversation about who you need to bench and who you need to bring in, that's not the issue here, okay? That's not the issue. But we'll get into the quarterback and we'll get into all of those things when we start talking about the offense, right? But gut reaction is we have seen this team play down to lesser opponents way too many times under Marcus Freeman. It is a major, major problem. You wouldn't think that after what happened two weeks ago that you would have to go to any extreme measures to get this team up for this game. You wouldn't think so, right? It almost feels like he went into the room and he's like, guys, I know you're excited about this game, but I want you to tone it down a little bit. That's what it felt like. I know you're excited to play at home in front of your friends and family, but let's bring it down a notch. It's almost like he's forcing these kids to not be excited to play the game of football. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what it feels like. I don't even know how you can come out in this game and not be fired up to just show people that two weeks ago, you know, it was an anomaly or whatever, whatever the motivation, the internal motivation that you need, right? It felt like it was sucked out of them for some reason, and they just didn't do it. I just, I don't understand it. It makes no sense to me. And I also agree with you guys next week against Louisville, they're going to come out fired up. And look, there's a good chance that they blow the doors off of Louisville. There's a, there's a decent chance of that happens because I just don't know who this team is. They play great against good teams. They play awful against bad teams. So at this point, they may lose to army and they may lose to navy, but they'll beat USC and Louisville. Like it just make, I just don't understand. I just don't understand this team guys. I just don't. 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