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You need to see how he can haven't handled that position. And as far as I know, they haven't done that with him. But I would, with his athleticism, length, power, I would strongly consider that. Yes, absolutely. Because it's like, oh, you know, you don't wanna worry about getting your quarterback hurt, or you mean like when your left tackle gets launched into your quarterback's chest, when you're about to throw a touchdown pass? Like, yeah, that's a problem. That's a problem. Now, the other thing I consider is moving a meal over there and Kirby slides in a right tackle. They could decide to give someone a aperture shot there. I mean, there's a lot of things they could do. I don't know that Joe Rudolph is gonna do that, but I would look, I would certainly consider. And I also would consider, hey, let's give Anthony to the next couple of games to see how he's gonna improve, 'cause he's still just a true freshman playing his third game. And hopefully he improves, hopefully improves. Wyatt Kerwin, let's say hypothetically, another name can only play guys with sophomore or younger eligibility. What are your 22 starters, offense and defense, considering the starters and backups? How good could they be? Wait. So I can only play starters sophomores. Oh man, quarterback, I'd go with Kenny or CJ. You're running back the same. Well, here's the thing about this. Your offense doesn't change a whole lot. So on offense, you'd have this, like, okay, let's say, if we're gonna do this hypothetical, then let's say that there aren't injuries. So Billy Schrauth and Ashton Craig aren't injured. Your starting line-up doesn't, your starting offensive line doesn't change. They were literally all freshman or sophomore eligibility. At tight end, Reardon and Flanagan both have freshmen, sophomore, your tight end room doesn't change a whole lot. Your wide receivers, you still have Great House, you still have Jordan Faison, you still have KK Smith, Cam Williams, Mikey. I mean, you have everybody except for the transfers and Jaden Thomas. So your receiving corps would be, who the boundary would be? Mikey Gilbert maybe, you'd have Jaden Great House, Jordan Faison out there, you'd have KK Smith, you'd have Mike Gilbert, you'd have Cam Williams, you'd be still be pretty good there. You're running back room, you literally only lose Devin Ford, that's it. And defensively, you'd have Buba Carr starting, you'd have Josh Burnham starting, you'd have Junior and Bryce Young as your backups at Viper, Logan Thomas there. Defensive tackle is where it would get a little interesting because you'd have Donovan Hynish, but you'd lose all your other rotation guys for right now. You'd lose Onyay, Mills and Cross. You'd have Armomukum there, you'd have Brendan Vernon, Devin Houston. So that'd be the question mark right now. You'd be very young there. Your line backing room, you'd just take Jack Kaiser out and you're good to go, everybody else is there. You'd lose Benjamin Moore in the corner, I'd start Leonard Moore, still be pretty good there, not nearly as good as with Benjamin, but you'd still be pretty good there. At safety, you'd take a hit, you'd lose Xavier Watts, that's a big hit. And then you'd go with Kennedy earlacker, Luke Talich and Ben Minick as sort of that next group in. So that's still a pretty good squad. That's still a pretty good squad. I'd be concerned about who's your boundary receiver? Is Mike Gilbert ready for that? I'd be concerned about the detackle position and then I'd be concerned about my safety's opposite, opposite of Don and who's gonna play nickel. So those would be my question marks, but that'd still be a pretty good team, which is partly why there's so much excitement, right? I mean, that's kind of part of the reason you're so fired up about the future of this team because you're seeing a lot of those freshmen and sophomore eligible guys playing. 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I don't know that they're there right now. Joseph Barrett, Brian, if you were Florida's AD, would you dismiss Billy Napier right now, then who would be your choice as the next head coach? Like look, I'm not a big fan. I don't, I'm not a big fan of calling for people's jobs. You know, if you're asking me my decision, it's one thing to say that I think Florida's gonna move on from him, it's another thing to say, would I fire him? I don't feel comfortable doing that. I'm a former football coach, I got fired. It's not a pleasant thing. It's part of the reason I don't call for coaches to get fired. I also, in theory, I'm not a big fan of firing coaches in the middle of the season, unless they are doing things to create problems within your program, they're breaking rules. They're not doing their, like, they're not doing their jobs. Let's say Billy Napier is just like eff it. I know I'm gonna get fired at the end of the year, so I'm not coming in, I'm not doing meetings, I'm not working hard. Okay, he's giving you cause at that point in time, but I don't know that that's what's going on. I still think he's doing a very good job. So I'm not a huge fan of firing coaches in the middle of the season, so I'm not super. I know some people have no problem talking about firing people, and I don't care if he's a wife and kids. I don't screw that, I don't care, it needs to be fired. I am someone who, as a football coach, had to go home and tell my wife, "Hey babe, sorry." You know, I don't have my job anymore. And so it's not just a podcast fun topic for me. Joseph, there's nothing wrong with your question, man. It's a very fair question. I'm just hoping you understand why I'm not comfortable answering it, to be honest with you. So I just wanna make sure that you understand, it's not a shot at you, it's the other. Somebody says, "Would you have a problem firing BBG or BK?" No, same thing. I mean, look, I didn't like Brian Kelly. I couldn't stand Brian Kelly. I couldn't stand Brian Van Gorder. I never once called for them to be fired publicly, because it's just not my place to do so. It's my job to evaluate who's there. It's my job to say, "They're not doing a good enough job." And then it's up to the AD and the other people to decide what to do with that. It's just not something that I feel. I just think we're way too flimpered in our society, calling for people to have their livelihoods affected. And look, I get it, they make a lot of money. But you think that six-year-old kid of that head coach understands, "Well, you know, "Daddy makes a lot of money, and this is part of the job." No, he's like, "Okay, so now I can't be "around my friends anymore." Like, no, I'm not gonna just do that on a podcast, 'cause people like it or it's gonna get me clicks. And I'm not saying you're doing that, Joseph. I'm just saying, like, that's kind of the same type of thing. So I just, it's just not my place. I can say, "Hey, look, I think this is "what Ford's gonna do." But to say, if it was up to me, what I do it, no, it's not up to me. And so it really is just not something that I feel super great about. Yeah, just not something I feel great about. But, I mean, if Florida's gonna make a move, I still think if you're gonna fire a coach in season, this is just in general, Joseph. If you're gonna fire a coach in season, I still believe that doing it during a buy is the smartest time for that football team. It's the best time for that football team. And it gives you some time to kind of make the move, make the transition, get the proper piece of people in place. You know, players are gonna have a bit of an emotional reaction to that. Gives them a little bit more time to do that. And that's kind of where I'm at on that. So, Joseph, I wanna make sure you hear me on this one. It's a fair question. It's part of the business. And I don't even have, I'm not even telling, I'm not even saying that people that talk about coaching and fire are wrong. If they view that as important to their job, then that's their business. I'm telling you, for me, this is my opinion. It's not something I'm comfortable with. And honestly, it has no bearing on what's going to happen. And my job as an analyst is to evaluate the reality. The reality is Billy Napier's doing a poor job. Does that mean you should get fired? That's somebody else's job to decide, not mine. I'm just gonna tell you, as long as he's the head coach, this is the job he's doing. And I don't mind telling you after the fact what I would have done, like honestly. Like I've been very open about, if I was in Notre Dame shoes, I would have fired Brian Van Gorder after the 2014 season. But at the time, because it's, the deed is done. It's been done, it's not impacting anybody. This is what I would have done. 'Cause I do understand that firing people is a necessity in business. Sometimes you've got to fire people. You're paying them to do a job. They're not doing the job. And they're responsible for the livelihoods of a lot of other people. Understand all that. It's not that I'm, oh, it shouldn't fire people. It's just, it's not something I'm flippling to do. I hope people understand that. I do. And then I understand if you're frustrated that I don't answer it, totally get it, Joseph. 'Cause like I said, it's a very fair question. It's just not something that I'm super comfortable doing. 'Cause I just, like in the press conference, everybody else calls coach Freeman Marcus. I don't. Because to me, as a former coach, it's a signal of respect to say coach Freeman or coach Denmark or coach Gold. I would never call them in a public setting Mike or Al or Marcus. Does that mean when Tim Prester or Tim O'Malley or John Bryce or anybody else calls him Marcus that they're wrong? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Because it's different for them. It's, it's their backgrounds different. They're journalists. They're not former coaches. And that's not better or worse. It's just different. You have to do what you're comfortable with. And for me, I just look at things different because I come from that life. Because I played coach football because I coach coach football. I've gone through those experiences. I don't mind criticizing a coach because you don't do your job. You deserve criticism. There's just certain lines that I just am not comfortable with because I feel like, okay, you wouldn't have liked that when you were, like when I was a coach, I had no problem with people criticizing the job my guys did, none. You start talking about firing me and stuff like that. Like now you're making it personal. You know what I mean? Like criticizing me for the job I did, saying I'm not doing a good enough job. I'm not doing that. That's fair game. People can criticize me for the job I'm doing now. You start saying, dude, you don't, you don't have any business doing this. You should be fired. You should be this. Okay, now it's personal. And that's just kind of where I'm at. I hope that makes sense. And it's not judging people who do it differently. Like I said, I don't judge those guys for that. It's not, they're not viewing it as a sign of disrespect because they come from a different background. I do, I view it as a sign of disrespect if I did it because I do come from that background. Now, I don't think they would view it as disrespectful, but I do because of that background. I mean, I still, and some coaches that I talked to at Notre Dame used to be at Notre Dame, they still call me coach. And they know I'm not a coach anymore. And it's not, it's simply because it's like, it's kind of like when you're in that life, you're always kind of part of that life. And there's certain lines you don't cross, in my opinion, when you're doing that. And for me, calling, publicly calling for another coach to be fired for anything other than unethical behavior in my opinion, it's just not something I'm comfortable with. But if other people want to do it, respect that. You got to do what you feel is best for you. So I hope that that answers your question. And I hope that you don't take me, my unwillingness to answer your question, Joseph, is any kind of disrespect towards you? It's not at all. 'Cause I think it's a fair question. All right. Okay, let's go to Beezer 12, Washing Beard. You're an AD for a college program. As coach Freeman showed enough so far for you to hand him the keys, hand the keys to him, are you? I'm not sure what you're referring to at this point in time. Are you mean, are you referring to? I'm not sure what you're talking about there. They're talking about like giving him an extension. I mean, I think Mark is Freeman, I'll just say this. I think Mark is Freeman as a football coach has shown a lot of promise. There's a lot of things he does very well. He's a great representative of the institution. He's very well respected. He treats people from everything I've ever heard, from alums, from students, from parents. Everyone's gonna have, there's always gonna be some people that don't like the job you do. I understand that, but by and large, it's been, hey, he's genuine dude, he's good, he's this, he's that, that's important to me, especially in a place like Notre Dame, because even though in a lot of ways, Notre Dame's Catholic connection is like, it stops at certain places like, yeah, okay, we're Catholic, but we still do this and we still do that. Okay, so you're only Catholic when it matters most. You know, matters in certain situations, in my opinion. But you're still a Catholic institution, meaning your head football coach should be at least a decent human being. I think it's kind of important. And Mark is Freeman is from everything I know of him. I don't know him very well. I mean, we've never hung out socially. We've never talked really outside of the capacity of our jobs. Like, I don't know him like that, but I know a lot of people who know him, a lot of people that run into him. And I mean, I've even had people like running to his wife. I had a guy one time said his wife was there and he went up to her and said hi, and she was super polite and gracious and all that type of stuff. And you like hearing that, right? And he's a decent person. He's obviously a strong recruiter. There's a lot of things he does well. There's just some things that right now he needs to do better in order to be a championship caliber coach. And until he does that, I'm not ready to say, hey, let's talk extension just yet. That's my thing. Now, would I be willing to have a conversation in the math of the season about something that's kind of like, okay, we're gonna sign you to an extension because perception-wise, we've got to do this and that, there's some things that I would do in that regard to kind of say, 'cause there does have to be this level of perception of we support the coach, but it wouldn't necessarily be like, hey, let's give him a big old pay raise and keys to the kingdom type of thing. It wouldn't be that at this point in time. - Light it. - Hey Irish Breakdown listeners, it's Urban Meyer. This fall the game changes. Join me, Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram and broadcaster Rob Stone as we bring you a new perspective on football and culture every week. We will be joined by the biggest name in sports and talk about everything inside and outside of the lines. Let us guide you through a new era of college football. 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And look, here's the deal, until he does it, we don't know that he will. And people say, well, you know, Mike Dembrech has full autonomy, not really, because anytime the head coach says to do something, you're supposed to do it. So it's a great question. I mean, will he ever, I hope so? So all I can say is, I hope so. You hope that eventually, enough things happen to where it's kind of like, okay man, I gotta turn you loose, you know, and let you go do what you're comfortable with. And that doesn't mean throwing 80 bombs. That's not who Mike Dembrech is. That's not who Jared Parker was. It's not who Tommy Reese was. You know, like look, I gotta be one to let you do what you do, even if I think that that may lead to a mistake, because you gotta do what you're comfortable with. And if I don't think that that's good enough, then I need to go fire, hire somebody else to do it. Insured by big. So hey, I'm curious what your thoughts are about what I said about LSU earlier, and see kind of what your thoughts are about how LSU's been so far this season. I'm very curious what a fair objective US LSU fans thinks. And I think you are definitely that. So I'd be very curious kind of what you think of, of how they've looked so far this season. Here's a question. With politics and cultural sensitivities evolving, Notre Dame might one day change its mascot. If that happens, what new mascot would you choose that honors the university values? I would never change the mascot. If you ever give in to that, if someone is that sensitive, their opinion should not matter to you about this type of topic, I'm sorry. And I can say that because I'm Irish. And so I get told I'm not allowed to have an opinion about this because I'm not that. I'm not allowed to think about this because I'm not, I'm Irish. I have zero problem with that. You're the fighting Irish. I don't, oh my God, you think we all, shut up. I think that in these type of institutions, when people are that sensitive, it's our job as a society to make them not as sensitive. Hey, you gotta learn to put your big girl pants on and put your big boy pants on and stop catering to the most sensitive, weak people in our society. There are certain things that are, that's not appropriate. That's not, there's always lines, but something like the fighting Irish is not something that anyone that if you don't, if you don't have, if you have a problem with that, that's a you thing. I'm sorry, you don't. And since I am Irish, I can speak on that. And if they change the name to fighting Irish, I'll be pissed. I'll be super pissed. Have you guys seen how Ireland treats Notre Dame when they go over there? They freaking love Notre Dame. So if they're not mad about it, then you should shut up and not be mad about it. And so yeah, that would, that would really bother me, really bother me. And I will not entertain any notion of Notre Dame changing their mascot. And if they do change their mascot, because they're as soft as the people that do complain about it, then I will have some very harsh things to say about Notre Dame. Yeah, very harsh things. So as an Irish person, this is one that I am allowed to talk about. And I would say that I would be super pissed. And part of the reason that I liked Notre Dame is because it gave a shout out to what my family said our heritage is. I don't really get into that kind of stuff. I'm an American. I don't really care where people I've never met came from. But in this instance, I'm going to use it to my advantage because it's one of the few times I'm actually supposedly allowed to speak on a subject. So yeah, I am no problem with it. No problem with it at all, at all. So yeah, go Irish. That's what I'll keep saying. And won't entertain any other thoughts otherwise. So I don't know how, if anybody else agrees with me on that or not, but honestly, I don't care because it's something that I'm definitely, definitely, definitely passionate about. So our insured by big is Notre Dame, the college football version of the Dallas Cowboys, national team with big fan base, but it's been a while since the head coach. Yeah. I mean, Dallas is one of the titles before Notre Dame has. Certainly. So, I mean, I know that you're asking that sort of a pejorative, but it's also true. I don't think Notre Dame gets the hype every year that Dallas does, only to be super disappointing. If you look at Notre Dame's pre-season rankings compared to what they end up every year, they're usually ranked pretty fairly from where they start and where they finish, whereas Dallas gets hype as a Super Bowl team and then they end up being eight and eight or whatever so. But as far as like not, hasn't won in a while, but still considered like America's team? Certainly, there's always a tie to the Cowboys and Notre Dame in that regard. Absolutely. Steven B, any thoughts at all on Aeneas Williams? I was mesmerized by his high school tape. Could he get more chances in the passing game as the season goes on? I mean, he already gets Steven. I mean, you're already seeing him more and more and we saw him on Saturday against Purdue when the game was still in doubt. I think it was their second touchdown drive. They're in a third and eight and they run a quick draw and they run that draw to him. I'm like, I'd much rather see him get the ball there than Devin Ford with all due respect to Devin Ford 'cause I think Aeneas is a playmaker and he made a great run. Just got behind his line, made that cut and then carried the guy to the first down marker. They were in two down territory. So that's why they were comfortable running that play. But Aeneas wasn't made to play. I was pumped about that. Like I could certainly see him getting more third down touches. And I don't know about like past game stuff, a ton, but in some of those third down looks, yeah. - Yeah, absolutely. Visa says his earlier question, you can hire anybody, would you hire Marcus? I mean, it's hard to answer that question because he's not a free agent. He already is the coach. I mean, if I could hire anybody as the head coach in their name, I'd hire myself because I would love that salary. That salary would be awesome. I don't think I'd, you know, do a very good job but I'd love that salary in the buyout for a couple years. I mean, that'd be pretty nice. But in all seriousness, it's not that I'm unwilling to do a hypothetical. It's just, it's kind of unnecessary at that point in time because it's like, well, he is the coach and I don't know that he's done anything to make another school say, boy, we gotta break the bank to get Marcus Freeman here. I don't know that that's the case. But, and that's what I was kind of saying earlier is like if I were to do a quote-unquote extension with Marcus Freeman, it wouldn't be a giant pay raise. It would be more about, okay, but we're gonna give ourselves some protection and create a bigger buyout from an outside entity and maybe lower our buyout if we wanna move on or something like that. But, you know, I'm glad I'm, even as fresh as I am from two weeks, I'm still glad Marcus Freeman's head coach another day because I wanna see what he can do. I've not given up the, oh, you know what, this game, I'm done with him and I have some friends that are that way. I'm done with him. I'm not there. I'm not at that point in time. I still wanna see what he can do. I still wanna see what he can do. And, you know, the clock's always ticking, right? But, yeah, yeah. I mean, seriously, Brian, it's, or Steven, yeah, I mean, hire me as a coach for a year. I get that salary for a year and then you fire me and I get a $50 million buyout. Okay, cool, that's the only reason I would hire myself. But that's kind of where I'm at. I'm just, I'm glad he's the head coach another day. I'm really, I'm still excited to see what he can do and hopefully he can learn from some of those mistakes. Some of those mistakes. All right, let's get down to here. A few more before we get out of here. James Rhodes is another name. Try to roll the pocket to help Riley get the ball down the field. Would cut field in half for him and allow him not to worry as much about online blocking. You know, Jared, it's a little harder to hit deep shots on rollouts. If you're gonna do like a half roll, maybe, but half roll, you still have to worry about the offensive line. And I never loved half rolls as a quarterback because when you're rolling out and then stopping, you're kind of doing that sync protection backside and if you miss one of those, man, I got earholed on one of those in college and it's not pleasant. I've never liked that protection very much. But I mean, the only time I remember, I can only really remember a quarterback. Pardon me, a quarterback taking a deep shot in a rollout. You guys remember in 2010, Dane Christ did that against Michigan. They ran a flood concept play side and it was a go route to TJ Jones, you had an out cut and then a slide cut. And he threw the deep, he threw the go. And normally on floods, teams don't, the go is just a clear, but Dane threw the go and hit it for a touchdown against Michigan in 2010. You don't often see that type of deep shot get hit on a rollout. I would say something like play action where you simplify his reads there, maybe some half field reads, a little half boot, something along those lines would be a little bit more preferable for me than a sprint out. Now, I do think that some sprint out stuff is there. Like I do like roll in the pocket, Jared. In theory, I like the idea we saw it last week, but I am more of that's chain moving stuff, that's getting guys in space type of stuff. There's certainly opportunities to do that. I just don't know that that necessarily helps you with the deep game a whole lot. Now, one instance would be is if you're gonna do something like that with like a throwback. So if you remember, I believe he booted, it was 2018 against Stanford. I believe it was a bootleg. I'm actually gonna look that up, but Ian booked, booted right, and then threw back side to Alize Mac. Give me a second, I'm gonna look that play up. I believe it was like a half roll bootleg that he threw back side, something like that, but I don't know that that necessarily, like that could help you with, 'cause like there's two things like, okay, that could make you, that could get you a big play, right? And you could get a big play for that. But does that necessarily get you to a point where comfortable throwing the deep ball because you hit that throw? I don't know that it does that. Like it doesn't fix anything. It just gives you a chance to hit a big play, but you can't go back to the well on that too many times. So there might be some things like that where you can maybe pop a big play in certain instances and create some of those opportunities. But overall, he's gonna have to do a better job of in the pocket, reading defenses, whether it be pure dropbacks or whether it be play actions or things like that. It's just something he's gonna have to do a better job of. So I'm looking at that play. Yeah, Ian did a sort of like a roll out to the right, planted through backside to Alizay Mack. It was only about a 12 yard throw downfield now as they went for touchdown. So like, so that wasn't a deep shot. So he did bootleg, but it wasn't a deep shot. It was a far throw, but it was all the way backside. So yeah. All right. Got Andrew Gilmore. If Chip Kelly had gone to Florida instead of UCLA, would Florida and Kelly be in a better position right now? I don't, I don't think so. Chip Kelly needs to be at the right place. Chip Kelly needs to be at a place where he doesn't have to do as much hand shaking and, you know, alumni, you know, kiss the ring moments and not alumni, booster kiss the ring moments and getting out and seeing a bunch of people. He's a football coach, man. He needs to be somewhere that he can just go coach football and do the occasional thing. And he's not a great recruiter. I thought UCLA was a pretty decent gig for him. You know, I just, I don't know that Florida'd be a whole lot better to be honest with you. I don't, and I think, I think, I mean, I'd have to go back, I almost say, 'cause I'd have to go back and look, but I wonder if Chip kind of knew that, that he's not a fit there. Ico5, are you nervous about the lack of receiver production over the last few weeks, which hurt in recruiting, moving forward? I mean, it could, I'm not nervous about it. It's something that's gonna have to get better. And if it doesn't improve quickly, it could become an even bigger problem, but I'm not necessarily concerned about it from a hurting recruiting standpoint, 'cause it is still kind of early. But if this continues all season, it's just gonna be like, okay, third quarter in a row and the receiver production is not there. It's gonna impact recruiting. I'd be lying to you if I said it wasn't. I'm just not weak. There's not a lot that I'm concerned about in week three outside of, okay, you've now had three injuries in that position. It's like, okay, it's time to, you know, it's time to figure some things out. So, yeah. All right, Steven B, who do you think is starting at quarterback next year? I think it'll be CJ Carr, Kenny Menchie. That's who I think. You know, there's a lot, there's a lot that's gotta happen between now and then, but to me, it would be one of those two type of guys. It would be one of them. And let me find that out. I didn't banamis, two part question. I know we lost NIU, I know, but dear Lord, there is not one person in media who thinks we're good at all. Maybe we're not, but I still think the team we thought before the season and after A&M, I mean, I will take the easy points as a lock. Well, I mean, I'm technically in the media and I think we're good. And Ryan Roberts is in the media and he thinks nothing's pretty good. And, you know, I mean, it's not that I think people are good. I think people look at that and say, well, they don't know what their name's gonna be. But I've told you guys this before, I didn't. And I try to help you guys. I say these things not to troll or to get points or anything like that, but I say these things to try to help you guys understand so your reactions are, you know, you don't get, you don't have the emotional reactions. 'Cause like I used to be that way. No longer I've been in this business, you start to see things in a certain way. And it's why I've called, like I told you guys, hey, if no name beats A&M, here's the, here's where, here's what they're gonna do. They're gonna react this way. And the nature of media is no longer to just report the news and provide honest analysis. It's now, because it's all driven by, hey, I could give you the best analysis in the world, but if we're not making money, then I'm gonna be fired, right? So I've gotta do things to, you know, drive revenue. So, you know, you hire a guy that curses and drinks beer on TV that wears a tank top and try to spend that off as an analysis, right? Or, you know, it's like, okay, well, some people like that, some people don't, it is what it is. But why does he have a, it doesn't have a job because of the analysis he provides. He has a job because he sells. And I respect that. I respect the fact that it sells. It's just not, for me, it's not my taste. It's not something I enjoy to watch. So I don't, for people to do, good for you. I mean, you know, it's good. I think there should be different types of things. But, you know, it's not about good analysis anymore. It's about story lines. It's about narratives and the media creates narratives so that they have things to talk about all year. I mean, that's the only way a 24 hour, 365 news cycle can work is if you're creating theirs. We see this in politics and stuff. It's like, well, it's a 24 hour news cycle now. It didn't used to be that way, you know? So you gotta create narratives 'cause otherwise, if you don't, you don't have anything to talk about. And with Notre Dame, they're gonna love on Notre Dame when Notre Dame's good, but the first time Notre Dame gives them a chance to bang on 'em, they're gonna bang on 'em. It's not even because they necessarily hate Notre Dame's 'cause that's what sells. And then if Notre Dame goes on a roll and wins a bunch of games, they're gonna love on Notre Dame again until they lose a game and they're gonna hate on Notre Dame again. I told you guys this about Dion. I said, look, they're gonna build Dion up until the moment he starts to fail and then they're gonna be the first ones tearing him down. Why? 'Cause that sells. That's what sells. And Dion is a hot topic. Whether if he's good, he's a hot topic, he's bad, he's a hot topic. And so, just, and then you all just have this sort of group thing that goes on. And so, you know, look, I just, I look at it this way, man, and I say, there's plenty of people that I've heard that have still sang good things about Notre Dame now. I don't know that, I don't know who you listen to, but in passing or talking to people or reading people, I know people in the sports media that still thinks Notre Dame's a very good football team. Bill Bender, who works, who's the main college football writer for Sporting News. He still thinks Notre Dame's a good football team, which is why the Northern Illinois game was so frickin' frustrating, 'cause this is a good football team. And Notre Dame deserves to get hammered for that. They deserve to get hammered for losing their Northern Illinois. And I don't have a problem with anyone saying that was a bad loss and crushing Notre Dame for that. You deserve that. Look, sometimes your favorite team deserves to get hammered. This is the fact. And when you're a top five team and you're the number five team in the country and you lose it home to a team that you were a four touchdown favor over, guess what? You deserve to get hammered. And, you know, that's why I think most of this is, but the reality is, is you have to understand the nature of what this business is now. It is not about gonna give, you know, like for me, it is. And there's certain individuals that do that, right? I don't want to sit there and say nobody at ESPN or whatever is an honest individual. Not saying that at all. I'm saying just by nature, it's more entertainment than it is. We're just providing good analysis, right? And it's just, that's the nature. But I know there's plenty of people that cover Notre Dame that still think they're a good team, but they're like me. They were frustrated by the loss. And you wonder like, okay, great. You bounce back for one week, but one week bounce back doesn't mean you're not gonna have another game like this down the road. And, you know, if I am being honest, then you have to think about that. So, that's where it's at. So anyway, that's kind of my thoughts on that. Raymond Harten, what do you think about Mel Kuiper's taking the NFL, should stop allowing two high safeties because it's stopping the quarterbacks from being able to throw the ball down the field, deep down the field. Number one, you can still throw the ball deep down the field against cover two. I just, that's just nonsense. Cover two is not some new thing. Cover two's been around forever. I mean, cover two's been around. I mean, Miami back in 2000 was a pure two man team from what I can remember. So, I would say a couple things. Number one, find different ways to run, to throw against those. Find different ways to attack those type of routes. I mean, I tell a story about how we threw an ADR touchdown pass against cover two back when I was coaching back in '03. And, you know, like, here's the thing. I thought Mark Schlareth had the best answer to this. He said, "Run the football more. "Run the football more and teams are gonna get out "of playing cover two." You know, teams aren't gonna run a whole lot of cover two against the 2000 or 1997 Denver Broncos, 1998 Denver Broncos. It's gonna run it on you all day. You got no chance to stop it. Teams aren't gonna play a whole lot of cover two when they're playing Alabama 2011 or 2012. They're just not. Alabama 2015, they're just not. You gotta get an extra guy in the box. So here's the thought. If you want to team stop playing as much cover two, run the ball better. Run the ball more effectively. You know, find different ways to get back to certain concepts that you can be effective out of that. Find different ways to motion and shift and get them out of that kind of stuff. So, you know, like, something's not, and the thing he said, and I saw the clip today, I saw a little bit of it yesterday and then saw it more again today. And it's just one of those things where if you don't like something, don't outlaw the thing that's making it hard on offensive coaches, demand that offensive coaches, find better answers. And you've got all these offensive coaches that come from a similar tree and similar thought process. And they're going out there and they all kind of do the same thing. And then, you know, this tree of coaching is popular. So let's hire 87,000 disciples of Sean McVay and Nandy Reed. And then it's like, okay, then everyone's running kind of similar offenses. And there's kind of a way to beat that 'cause a lot of people are doing it. We'll go back and run the football better, be more effective with this, find this matchup, use this motion and shift to attack it. The dink and dunk is not happening because teams are playing cover too. I would argue that teams are playing a lot of cover too because teams were dinking and dunking. And this is a way to stop the dinking and dunking. I don't think teams did cover too because, you know, they want to stop all the deep balls that were happening. And if I don't remember the NFL throwing a ton of deep balls a lot recently outside of what three or four quarterbacks. So, you know, if defenses are doing something that give you problems and adjust and adapt and evolve and don't make rules to stop it, right? Like, like rules should be made. Like when you, when you, there was a period of time in the NFL where they were basically letting corners get away with murder. I mean, I just shouldn't say that. They were, they were man-hailing receivers. Like, that's not football. At least not, that's not modern football anyway, right? In a modern pass game. Like you're getting into, you're breaking rules by getting vams. Emphasize calling that more. That's different. But to say, well, you can't have two safeties deep because we're bored watching football, okay? Then maybe your team should hire coaches that know how to go at that better and aren't stuck in their little dink and dunk world. And OG, they're doing this to stop us. Let's change the rules instead of being innovative and finding ways to beat it. So that's kind of where I'm at. So yeah, get better. Get better offensive coaches, right? Do a fine schemes at work. Go back and watch some films in the 1980s. They knew how to throw against cover too. Maybe do that. Here's a thought. And when you're watching 1980s football, maybe you're going to see like, "Hey, wow, they run the football. They have actually running backs." Here's this thing. They actually have running backs whose primary job was to run the football, not pass block, not catch passes, and then catch, but to actually, it's crazy for you. They would actually turn around, they'd get under center, they'd get a snap under center. They'd turn around and hand the ball off to the running back. And they'd do that like 20 times a game. Swear to you, true story, true story. If you're listening to be a podcast platform, I'm being very sarcastic. I think the people watching me can tell that I'm being very sarcastic. But that's what I love about sports. It's you get good at something and it's up to the other side of the ball to adapt. And then when they adapt, you have to adapt to their adaptations. And that's the fun of it. But to just come out here and say, change the rules is pretty lame. And I would hope that there aren't coaches saying that. So get better on offense. Run the ball, find different ways to attack cover too. And then they'll stop doing it as much. Pretty simple. So anyway, that's my two cents on that. Last one, Archer 4.5.2. This past weekend had some of the worst efficient I've ever seen, especially in regards to targeting, roughing the past in 15 years. How much physicality do you think is removed from the game? Oh, it's gonna get worse and worse and worse, man. Worse and worse and worse. 'Cause like here's the thing, as players start in college, start making more money, it's gonna go the NFL route where, hey, I'm paying this guy X amount of dollars. I need him protected more. I can't afford to have my $50 million quarterback injured because we treat him like a football player. Imagine that. So that's just the reality of it. And it's gonna get worse, Archer. It's gonna get worse in college. It's just a lot of things that are happening in the NFL right now, you know. It's like, I've shared the story before, but somebody put a clip a few years ago, Sean Taylor, Miami, just laying people out. My response was targeting, targeting, targeting, targeting, targeting. Sean Taylor would never have finished a game in college. And he would have played half the season. 'Cause he would have got kicked out of either the first half of every game, or if he made it to the second half, he'd have got kicked out of the second half and then wouldn't be able to play the first half of the next game. He'd have got kicked out almost every game. Steve Atwater would have had to move the linebacker or he would have got kicked out of every game. Like when I was a kid at Bronco's had two safeties, Dennis Smith and Steve Atwater, they literally would have got, I mean, not literally, I'm being hyperbolic here. They would have got kicked out of almost every game. And there's some of the things that like, I watched some games from like the '60s and '70s. Like, oh my God, they were trying to hurt each other. Like, that's not okay. But, you know, big hits should still be part of the game, but it's not because players are commodities, right? And if I'm giving this commodity $20 million, I don't want there to be things that can get this guy hurt and protect him as much as possible. And that's where the business side of it kind of ruins the sport of it, to be honest with you. And it's coming to college football. And that's just brace yourself for it, man. Brace yourself for it and just accept the fact that that's kind of how it's going to be. All right, so yeah, don't disagree, don't disagree. But let's be honest, even now, if there are things you can do even now on a football field, that if you did it at a restaurant, you'd get arrested. Go up to a guy and, you know, line up in a three technique, you know, line up in a two-point stance and come out and drive him off the ball like you would a defensive tackle. You can get arrested, you know what I mean? So there's a lot of things like that. But I think what your joke is like, those things are, you'd get arrested for what you did on the field now. Like, you know, it's Jack Tatum, Jack Lambert. Who was the guy for the Raiders? They had a safety, George Atkinson, who I've actually met a couple of times, good dude. Like there'd be cops waiting on for him in the locker room. Like, okay, the receiver for the other team press charges against you. We're going to have to arrest you. It would get crazy if they played the game today like they did back then. So, yeah, but anyway, hey guys, I enjoyed today. I hope you all enjoyed today. A lot of great questions today. I really appreciate all of you guys very much and dealing with my rants and sticking through it. I always get excited when we have more people in the show watching at the end than we had at the beginning. I feel like that means that we had a good show. And today's show is dominated by you guys. And so I really appreciate you guys being here today and apologize that I wasn't here last week, but I'm glad to be back. And that's fun. DJ Holman, that's a great comment. DJ, teams don't adapt anymore. They just hire what's working. DJ, that is such a great point. Such a such a great point. You are absolutely right. That's working. Let's go hire that guy. You're 100% such a good point. It's a great way to end it, man. So everyone have an awesome rest of your day. Ivy Nation will have the countdown to kick off, publish later tonight. And then of course, we'll have our post game show tomorrow. Ryan and Vince and Sean and Trevor, we'll all be back tomorrow for the post game show. I know they're going to have a do a great job. We've got our predictions at Irishbreakdown.com for Notre Dame and in Miami. We also did predictions for Tennessee, Oklahoma, USC, Michigan, Utah, Oklahoma State. You can check that out. Have about three recruiting articles coming up later today, two from Sean Davis, one from Nick Kramer that I'll have up later today. So of some guys visiting this weekend and who knows, there may be some recruiting news this weekend. We'll see. 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