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That's not the first bad moment of the game the week before was not the offense. The first time the offense had the ball, they went right down the field and scored. The first time the special teams, the second time, the first time the special teams, the kickoff team was on the field, they pinned Northern Illinois at the two, correct? The game changed when the defense gave up an 83-yard touchdown pass. Okay. Yeah, but they only gave up a couple field goals, rest of the way, it was 13-7, well then the offense gives you a second half score. Now the offense did jack the rest of the game, but after the offense through the terrible pick, that's a hundred percent of the offense, they're not even in midfield. They've got to get at least two first downs to be in field goal territory. You don't stop them. They take five minutes, almost five minutes off the clock and just the whole game, the defense was just, I mean Benjamin Morrison's giving up completions, your D tackles aren't doing anything. Jack Kaiser's playing passive, like outside of Xavier Watts and a couple sophomores, Jaden Osbury, Christian Gray. I don't know, you know, well, I say, but to a whole Burnham, there was a minute, there's a handful of guys that played well, but as a whole, the defense wasn't its typical self. How are you going to respond to that? Well, they came out against Purdue Vince and we'll get into the start, but just overall, I thought they responded really well. Agreed. I did. And, you know, look, Purdue, yeah, the offense scoring helped the defense out, but Purdue crossed midfield once the entire game. And that was with the backups in the game. For Kennedy Herlacher, I went back and watched from the all 22, also layers. He looked like he was trying to tackle Jayden, man. Yes. All right. He was hilarious. He leaned into it. Come out. Yes. Oh, no, he was thinking now you live with it because he was really good after that, right? You know what I mean? But you're like, I can't even explain what this kid's thinking right now. That's all I would say. I was like, no, in my way to get to my guy, and you had to go, you know, what are you thinking, dude? Um, but he was so good after that that you, you laugh at it. But now because of how good he was afterwards and because you won by 59, you know, but that's part of the lessons learned right now, Vince, is from these young guys. But you know, that was the only time a blown play is the only reason you got past midfield. And there was a couple of drives in the first half where they got the ball in pretty good field position because your name has major punting problems right now, and they couldn't do anything with it. Three and out, three and out. They crossed. Think about this. In the field once, the entire game was on a blown play against your second team defense. Well, and, and to your, to your point, they started on the minus 43 on their second drive. Okay. Because the pump was not good, right? So the minus 43, that's really good field position. You're seven yards away from being on the side of the field that you want to be on. But then they held on the first play, you know, a throwaway because they got pressure from Kaiser, a pass breakup at the line of scrimmage by Schuler, and then they have to punt, right? So two series later defensively, they get the ball on the minus 38 yard line, get all the way up to the minus 44, and then they get sacked, right? So, you know, your, your point is, is right on the money. I mean, they were giving Purdue great field position, which is why I mentioned the fact that if they can't figure out this whole punting situation, giving other teams the ball at that point on the field is going to bite them in the rear at some point, right? But Purdue had no answers against Notre Dame's defense in this particular game. So it didn't hurt them, right? Because the defense was just so good. I mean, they were just, it didn't matter where Purdue got the ball on the field. It didn't matter, they were, they dominated. I mean, the three and outs were just like consecutive for this defense. So because, you know, yeah, there wasn't anything from this game that's relooking, say, oh, the defense made this adjustment schematic clear that edge. I mean, they always have wrinkles that are geared towards stopping the specifics of the opponent, but it was the same basic game plan they've had in the past. Yeah. Not, not, not, no, that's wrong. It was a, the philosophy, the structure of who they are from week to week didn't change. They didn't do anything dramatically overreactive from a scheme saying we struggled to stop the run. And this regard, no, what they did was we struggled to stop the run. Let's play better. Right. You know, let's be more forceful on the edge. Let's compete more up the middle and early on, you know, the, the tackles were playing great. They buckled down. You had Jason Onyay playing a phenomenal game. They did some adjustments with Kurt Heynish. I've, or Donovan Heynish in this game where they let him attack more, but overall it was still a very similar. This is who they are on defense. It's just, it was, it was executed better. So kudos to the coach for working out some of the mistakes from the previous week. Great job there. But I thought the players came out and played with a little bit of pride in the game. Yeah. You know what I mean? We're like, hey, they were, they were mad at themselves from what they did the week before. So come out and execute and play at a high level and take it out on Purdue and prize picks is America's number one daily fantasy sports app with over 5 million active members. Prize picks is the easiest and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. Unlike other apps on prize picks, it's just you against the numbers. 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First drive. Okay, first drive made to fourth and fourth. They actually ran a pretty decent concept where they, where they ran, they, I think it was two and three both worked out and they brought number one underneath of them. In Jordan Clark planted and drove and split two Purdue receivers and didn't get touched and drove on that route. That was actually a good call. It required perfection from a read and drive on the ball standpoint and Jordan Clark did it. And as soon as the guy caught the ball, he takes him down. No chance. Right. And I was like, okay, this defense came to play. Yes. They ran a good scheme, Notre Dame read it perfectly, drove on it, made the stop, boom, the pressure got there. Okay, this team came to play. Started off a little rough, finished really well and, and that's, that's you needed to see that. No doubt about it. Let's, let's talk about some of our key moments defensively because I mean, our, our takeaways are pretty obvious for defense, for defense. So let's talk about some of our key moments in this game. Let's start with the first drive when we were just talking about, so it's a great transition. They answered Notre Dame's offensive score because it, again, this kind of mirrored last week, right? Offense goes down in scores. Defense gets an opportunity. They give up a big play. They allow the other team to score. This time around offense goes down in scores. Defense gets an opportunity. They give up a big play on second down. And what are you thinking? Big win. I'm Benjamin Morrison got beat on that slant route and he looked bad. Like that was, he got beat bad. I mean, he just, he overplayed the outside move, guys shoved him, not shoved him, but I mean, how you teach it, you know, 100% and then it looked like a lot like the, the rock bow Collins did on him last year against Clemson. Yeah. Absolutely. And 18 yard game. And what was your, what, what went with your head, Vince? I was like, yeah, we go again, second downs, you know, second downs. Here we go. And then they went three and out after that. And so they, they answered emphatically, Notre Dame, exactly Notre Dame after that, 100%. They emphatically shut them down from that point forward. Yeah. You had the next big play for me, Vince, was the, the start of the next drive. I would actually argue it was a two plays later that they started to shut them down. Second play of the next drive, they run a, a, a mesh, the tight end climbs and there's a miscommunication between Kaiser and Kingston. Kaiser stops and thinks that he's passing off to Kingston. Kingston keeps running and, and Kaiser, like, I don't know who was it, who was wrong, but basically Kingston gets confused stops and then keeps running and the guy beats him across the field for a big game and they look back and they're like, what the heck? Like if they were going to pass off, Jack needed to see the guy come in the other way and peel. He didn't do it. And so I think kind of think both tight ends kind of were open on it, but there was that and they completed it for a first down, but it comes back from a hold. Why did it come back? So you're thinking like, dude, that's not a big, yeah, it was a big moment because it got called for a holding because Jordan Pitoho came off the line like a crazy person, like just a man in his nest, splits a double team. I mean, you could just see him fighting like his life depended on it. And when he splits that double team, the guard panics and reaches out and holds them. And then the quarterback kind of does a half scramble, throws the ball over the top, hits the guy. If he doesn't play that hard with that kind of motor on that play, Purdue now has first down at what would that have been? That have, that have been first down. They started at the 43. They're all 43 events that would have got him in Notre Dame territory. 100%. Yes. And it's seven nothing for the first time in the game. Yes. Well, it's only their second drive. True. True. You know what I mean? And so it's like, but that high motor play puts him in first and 10, first and 20. And at that point in time, they were done on that drive and they never threatened Notre Dame again when the game was in doubt. Yep. I thought that showed me something because like you need your D line to step up and make plays and some, it's not always sacks that are those big plays. It's set in the edge. It's doing things like this where I'm fighting so hard to beat this double team, because that's my job on this play that I forced this guy to hold me or he, you know, because if he didn't hold him, he would have got the quarterback, you know what I mean? Right. Exactly. And that type of motor play, he could have just like, oh, they're double teaming me. I'll just contain, make sure the quarterback doesn't scramble. No, he's like, I'm getting into the quarterback and the hold results in that play being first 20. And I felt like now Purdue was toast, right? Because that's the time Notre Dame needed that. They make that drive stalls, right? So it's set verse and 20. They do a little quick five yard run for five yards, then it's incomplete pass. Kaiser would a really nice pressure. And then I think the next play of Don Schuler comes down when he scrambles out and breaks the pass up. They punt Notre Dame goes down the field in that long drive. We just broke down and goes up 14 nothing at that point time. And for all intents and purposes, it was game over because you gave that Notre Dame defense a two touchdown lead and they could just pin their ears back and Purdue was done at that point in time. Right. And so I thought that's the stuff you need, that high effort, high motor play can sometimes result in something that could potentially be bad turned into something really good. I thought that was a really big moment of the game. Right. Completely agree. Okay, last little moment we want to talk about is the big moment really for the defense. And that was Buba card Treyori's pick six. So let's break this thing down, Brian, and what you saw on film and how this thing transpired and all that. I've got to pull it up. I'm actually watching it right now. So it was interesting. So it's obviously what there's, I'm trying to see how much, what was the clock? There was 155 less than two minutes on the clock. We're at the 39 yard line. So Purdue's out in a two by two alignment tight ends into the boundary. Buba car is coming off the edge. He is going to rush the quarterback. However, he has dual responsibilities. You are rushing unless, unless you see that running back free release, then you got appeal. So Buba car recognizes the empty, the free release by the back and he steps outside and he stays on that guy, takes away that potential swing. He had a really good pressure from, I'm trying to see who this was that, was that, was that Kaiser that brought? Yeah, it was Kaiser comes from a long pressure, Riley Mills has, and Howard Cross have one of their best snaps of the game. Howard gets out to the big gap, Riley comes out right behind him, Howard forces the guy out of the pocket and Buba cars right there, Riley Mills. I don't, looking back at the play vents, I want to, I don't think he threw the ball. No, it was weird, he switched the ball from his right to his left hand. But then he just didn't, I think, rip it well enough, I wonder why Riley Mills was coming from behind him. And I think as Riley hit him, the ball comes out of his hand. It didn't look like he was straight. Like if you go back and look at it from the tight, it doesn't look like he goes like this. Right. It looks like he's running and the ball gets knocked out of his hand and Buba cars there to pick up. He moved it from his right to his left hand because because of the pressure, right, and he didn't want it to get knocked out of his hand. The problem was he got hit with such force by Mill, because it looked like he was going like this, right, and then Riley hit him, and the ball comes out, Buba cars right there. So Buba car reading for great pressure by Riley Mills and Howard Cross, one of the few good plays they did all games. That was good to see. You have a really nice pressure, Jack Kaiser comes screaming in on a delay, a delay blitz, but Buba car recognizing, hey, I've got, I've got appeal if that guy free releases, puts him in position to make that play. And then also, yeah, Jaden Alsberry also recognizing that play. He sees a snag route. He undercuts the snag route as that guy goes. And so Jaden also took away a potential route and was right there too. So just an incredibly well executed play, Vince, where the two big moments for me that I talked about were both high effort plays. And we, when this defense plays with high effort, it's really hard to beat. And that's what I want to see more of from Mills and Cross. They need to be doing stuff like that all the time, not just flashing here and there. And I thought that was a really, a really, I mean, it just, it wasn't, Oh, what a great play design. Oh, how golden had them confused? It was, we're going to cover all your guys. And then our front four is going to get to the quarterback. And that was the other thing too is this, the first time all season, we've seen the front four start to put pressure and record back with just the front without any extra. Yeah. Right. That was huge. Yeah. No doubt about it. And it wasn't necessarily a turning point in the game. You know, like we're going to be doing in different times throughout the season. Right. It wasn't a turning point. It was already 28 to nothing. It made it 35 to nothing. The game was for all intents and purposes, the game was over as far as who's going to win who's going to lose. And back off exact bingo. And that, that is the point that I was going to make. I mean, that it is, this is why I got to mute myself more. Because like, you're feeling your thunder. We are on the same page, Brian, because this, this, it showed the defense wasn't quitting. Right. The defense was still going to come after they were still going to play their game. They were still going to do what they do. And it resulted in a pick six, essentially, or fumble six or however you want to say it, right? That's an interception because it never hit the ground, but I mean, that's how you do it. Everybody did their job and they were in position to make a play. And I mean, when the defense plays the way they did on Saturday, there's not many teams in this country that are going to be able to do anything to them. No. So, and I don't want to speak in absolutes. And there's still a lot they can clean up from Saturday. Of course. Yes. I think one of my takeaways from the game is, is my wife just texted me says, geez, stop taking away, talking over Vince and interrupting because I told her she needs the hat. I sold her. It's like you're being mean to Vince. So she's got your back there on that one. The thing for me to Vince is I felt like the linebackers are still a work in progress. Sure. Kingston still a work in progress. There were several plays. Like again, people focus on the flashy plays. There's a couple of plays. I'm like, yeah, you got to be in better position there. Drake was solid, not special, not just, just solid, you know, crashing down and doing this thing. Jaden was solid. None of the linebackers are great. I thought and what I saw in this game was you're starting to see them figure it out. This was the best game Jack Keiser's had so far. He played way faster and way harder than, than he has in the first two games. Because in reality, yes, Jack Keiser is a six year senior, but we talked about a preseason. He's also a six year senior who has not played this position really. Right. He's in a new position. You know, when he started the last two years, when he started somewhere other than Rover, it was at Mike, not Will, he's still figuring it out. Well, some of the, and there's some of the delayed blitzes came to later turn too far. And there's still a lot of things to clean up, but you're starting to see this line backing core as a whole, starting to figure it out a little bit and get better and better and better. And that, that was the takeaway for me too. And that play was, you know, sort of an example of that, but it's just, you're starting to see this, but when the D line starts being more aggressive and more forceful, like you said earlier, that's when you're going to see this line backing core really take off. But you can see, you can see it, they're starting to even Drake had, again, didn't make a ton of plays, but he was playing a little bit more forced, crashing down and taking on blocks. You know, there was a play where he gets blocked down. But if you go back and look at the play, he's forcing that guy to block him and turn his shoulders because he knows he's got somebody else fitting out right behind him. So somebody looking, oh, he got blocked down. Yeah. Exactly. He wanted to get that guy to turn in. He's got that gap and if they bounce that sucker out, he's got that safety filling right behind him. You're starting to see more of that from this line backing core. Right. But when the D line can occupy blockers in this group, get downhill, it's like there was one play where one of the D linemen got a pressure, but it's because he was engaged and Jalen, Jaden Osberg came down and didn't have a hole to get through on a blitz. So he just runs into that offensive lineman and smashes them, which causes that guy to lose the defensive lineman and the guy loops around and pressures the quarterback. You're just like, he was like, I'm hitting somebody. Yeah. Right. Like somebody's getting hit on this play. Like, I mean, it was great. Vince. So that was, that was, that was obviously a big part part of it as well. So just seeing the defense get back on track. Yep. We do that. I know we're, we do have a couple of super chats, but, but that, that, I mean, right end of the day, the key takeaway from the defense, they look like they're supposed to look. Correct. They looked that way last week. They didn't look at it. Look, it, this is a good enough team where one side of the ball cannot be really up to par and they should still win games. The problem was last week, both sides were not up to par. Right. Oh, it was, it was just a three. Yeah. All three. Thank you. It was just a confluence of nobody picked anybody else up. Nobody played well enough to win on the last, right? Absolutely. And they deserve to lose 16 points. Should have been a good enough to beat Northern. It is, but you shouldn't have given up 16 points Northern Illinois. Exactly. Right. You shouldn't only score 14. You're part of your team factored into that one. Right. Completely agree. Do you want to finish up with some super chats, Vince? Let's hit them. Michael asks, thanks for the super chat objectively, where is Purdue as a competitive measuring stick? You know, Andrew Gilmore asked this earlier in the chat and it's like, it's a good question because I don't know. Right. I thought they, I thought Purdue finished the year last year pretty well. You know, talk to soft season. I really like some of the transfers they got in and you know, I watched this team kind of win two of their last three, beat Minnesota, beat Indiana, only lost by eight at Northwestern, who was a eight-win team last year, you come out in your opener against Indiana State. Yeah, they're not very good, but you dominated Indiana State and I'm like, they're, there's some players I like. There's some good, some good football partners in this football team and Notre Dame comes out and just runs them off the field. I mean, just completely runs them off the field and you're just like, they made that team look awful. They may not win another game and I'm like, that's how bad Notre Dame beat them. But it also makes it hard to know who they are. They beat a bad FCS team, 49 to nothing and then get, and I think about this, they've played two games. One of their games, they won by 49 and they're minus 10 in scoring on the season. That's how bad Notre Dame beat them, you know what I mean. So it's, it's honestly, I don't know, I don't know what this win means for Notre Dame because I don't know as far as like from the structure of how good is Purdue. I don't know. But here's what I'll say to you. I don't care what power five team you're playing. I don't care if you're playing Vanderbilt. If you're playing the worst power five thing, when you beat a team 66 to seven on their field and they're a power five opponent, you were excellent. There's nobody that bad where you don't play really, really well. Now if you play this well against Louisville, are you going to win by 59? No. Louisville's a much better team, but is it going to be competitive? Probably not. And that's the point. So in that regard, that's what we always say, Vince. It's not about the opponent. It's about Notre Dame, correct. And when they play their game, it doesn't matter who they play for the next nine games. It literally doesn't matter who they play. If they play their game, they'll win. Now some games may be, they may play their game in B USC and it's close and competitive, of course, same with Louisville. But if they play their game, like they on both sides of the ball, like they don't on Saturday, I don't know that anyone eats them. The question is, can they do that week to week? Right. That's what they haven't proven. Yeah. At Notre Dame, right? I literally agree. It sounds all sunshine and rainbows, but it's comma but. Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. We've seen this, not to this. I mean, we haven't seen them play like this before, like I don't know that any of the blowouts last year look like they were like this, right? I mean, this was just, it could have been, they could have hung 80 on them if they wanted to. Absolutely. It was even, this was even more embarrassing than the pit game. Cause like pit actually picked them off a couple of times in the first half and you need to tie a Reese punt return to get going. Like this wasn't an annihilation from start to finish. And I don't care who the opponent is. That's impressive. Right. Light it. Hey, Irish breakdown listeners, it's Urban Meyer. This fall, the game changes. Join me. Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram and broadcaster Rob Stone as we bring you a new perspective on football and culture every week. You'll be joined by the biggest name in sports and talk about everything inside and outside of the lines. Let us guide you through a new era of college football. Watch triple option on YouTube or listen on Apple podcast, Spotify or wherever you get podcasts. Hey, Irish breakdown listeners. It's Matt liner. I've got a podcast called throwbacks with actor J for R. Well, we'll be talking all things sports, but also so much more. We'll give you the behind the scenes stories from my days as the quarterback on an iconic college football team to Jerry's days as a star on an iconic TV series. So subscribe to throwbacks on YouTube, Apple podcast, Spotify or wherever you get podcasts. Michael S. Thanks to the super chat. Where's Colsy? He played on Saturday. Actually had a nice win on a go route. They just didn't look at him. But like he's just not ahead of other guys right now. Your two boundary guys are both Collins and Jay Thomas. They're both playing pretty well. Right. So you just got passed up Michael S. Thanks for another super chat every year. We expect senior D line, AKA Adamiolas, Foske to outperform prior year and are disappointed. Is that continuing with mills and cross? So far. Yeah, it's early. But yeah, but so far, that's fair. I mean, Foske was not as good as he needed to be, but he still had 14 tackles for loss 11 sacks. I'll take that kind of disappointing season from Howard Cross and Riley Mills. But yes, that so far. But flip side, we were getting a much better senior year from Jordan Patejo before. Yeah, we're getting a great senior year from Jason Onye. And they'll be getting Gabriel back at some point time over the next month or two. So that's obviously important. Another one from Michael S. It's Michael who has a tougher time with success than playing players or coaches, both games like last week happened. It's not on the coaches. It's not on the players. It's exactly. I mean, I even blame the nutritionist, like it's the whole part. It's the whole, it's the whole program. Like that was a problem, you know, it was the whole deal. Everybody's got a piece of the blame, no doubt. Michael S, thanks for another super chat is Riley Leonard's running sustainable for a whole season. Yeah, I mean, he had eight design carries on Saturday. I mean, there's going to be games where you, I mean, I hope that they don't need him to run that much against Miami, Ohio, sure, against, you know, some of the other teams in the schedule. But I mean, that's what you brought him in for. I mean, he's had games with 20 carries at Duke. I mean, this is how you get the offense going. There's always the risk of a guy like that being injured. It is. I'm concerned about, can he with the, you know, depending on what the severity of his shoulder, we still don't know. We know what reports are. Notre Dame didn't tell us a thing. Right. Was dropping his shoulder and getting hit right now, cortisone shots are a beautiful thing, right? But eventually even the cortisone shot can't keep that pain away. I mean, I was talking to my dad about this, like my mom had double knee replacement surgery and the cortisone shots helped her, but over time, like your body builds up a little bit of a tolerance for it. You know what I mean? And, and it doesn't quite work the same. So we'll see. I don't know. You never know when the guys runs that much, but I mean, that's what he's done. I mean, he ran for 699 yards at, you know, at Duke and his first year to start a piece of winning. He got hurt last year. He got hurt last year on a pass play. Right. Yeah. I rolled up on a pass play. It wasn't a run play. So what I mean, again, I again, and you can't coach like you're afraid of getting somebody right. I thought he made some good, go down, get out of bounds, decisions on Saturday, agreed. But you know, look, I, I don't know. I mean, he, he, he, it was sustainable for him in 2022. He wasn't able to stay healthy in 2023. How banged up is he now? We really don't know. So I don't know. I hope that eventually, but here's the thing. This is why the past game does need to get going because, you know, if he can improve a little bit as a, as an overall thrower, then maybe some of the stuff he won't need to do as much, or he'll have bigger windows to run if teams are playing, you know, off the box more. William Chesney. Thanks for the super chat. BD. I was one of the negative nancies on Saturday in the post game show. I just wanted to apologize for that. I can't believe I was frustrated with a 60 point win because of nitpicking the passing attack. I do get it, William. I do. We're emotional. Bad last week's game was it is. And I mean, I, I had these conversations were friends of mine who were not negative people like, it just pissed me off even more to watch them do that a week after, like I think I said the, I was talking to one of the guys in the press box and I was like, we've literally seen three different Notre Dame teams in these three games. Like, we saw a pretty good top 10 team against, against Texas and a top 10 to 15 team against A&M. We saw a, I don't even know if they're top 50 team last week against Northern Illinois. And Saturday we saw a team that can kind of play with anybody. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, what's the real Notre Dame? I don't know. I know what I hope it is. Yeah. You know, I hope it's somewhere you're always going to be between A&M and, and Purdue. You're never going to always be what you are against Purdue. It's not possible, even LSU in 2019 wasn't always it. They beat Auburn one week, scoring 23 points, you know what I mean? Like, it's just part of the deal. The team that probably came closest to beating them, that year was a Texas team, the one like, what, seven or eight games. Remember that great duel being in the year with Sam Ehrlinger and, and Joe Burrow. So, you know, I, I get, I do get it. And, and my whole thing is, and this is what some people, I'm not saying it's not okay that you don't have some questions about, okay, yeah, this was pretty good, but Purdue's not, George, that's a, that's a fine conversation to have. But when you come into a chat and it's just only focusing on the negative and only, oh, like, here's my, like, I was having a conversation with somebody earlier today. And it's like, you're literally in the same conversation criticizing Riley Leonard for missing throws and telling me, Steve Angeli should start, when I could literally show you two snaps on Saturday where Steve Angeli missed that same throw worse once he didn't throw it. And the other time he threw it, and it wasn't even close. Can I request that breakdown on the board? Yeah, it's the, it's the go ball that he threw to KK Smith, yeah, where KK's got the guy beat by two steps and he decides to throw a back shoulder pass for some reason. And it's, I've been close. And then the other one was, oh, he, you know, he misses Jadarion Price on that little check down. Did you not see Steve miss the check down to Jeremiah Love? Like, it happens. I'm not saying Steve sucks because that's part of playing football. But when you are going to ignore this guy's mistakes to hammer this guy and try to tell me to take away from how well Riley Leonard played, well, he didn't throw any passing touchdowns as if like three rushing touchdowns and one half of footballs, not enough. Think about this. The kid was on, on pace for 424 yards of offense and six touchdowns. And I got people telling me he shouldn't have been co-player of the game with Jeremiah Love because you're still mad about last week, like you can still be mad about last week. His performance Saturday is not the end all be on. It doesn't erase last weekend, but you can still look at it and say, Hey, but I like what he's doing now. Yes, he needs to get better, but I like what he's doing now. Now let's see if it's sustainable. There's a conversation to be had about how Riley's got to play better and Riley's got to improve here and improve there. And everyone will tell you that, including Riley Leonard, but it doesn't mean you still say, Oh, he sucked. He's no good. He needs to be benched and not give him praise for what he did on Saturday, right? Like he was the, he, him and Love were the two best players on the offense on Saturday. It's no question. That doesn't mean he's going to be the best player next week or was the best player last weekend. It just means on Saturday played really well. Can he play better? Yeah, he needs to and he can, but that, that was my frustration, William was, was that we can have a, and this is what we do at Irish Breakdown. We talk about the good and the bad, but when you just come in, this guy sucks and needs to be benched. He's terrible. And, and this guy's great, even though this guy made the same mistakes that guy did, but this guy can't avoid his sack to save his life. It's not perfect. Right? Like now you've put us in a situation where we got to tear down Steve to, to, to, because you've got this, this, like here's the, like this, well, you guys have this, this view of Riley Leonard that no, I know exactly who Riley Leonard is. You don't think you don't actually know who Steve Angeli is. Like that's the problem. It's the typical backup quarters quarterback syndrome. We can point to and have the good and the bad of Riley Leonard. But when you're going to ignore the bad of another guy, cause you're upset about this and say this guy sucks and needs to be benched, despite the fact he dominated the team he's about to play. Well, his runs weren't even that impressive. Okay. Now I know you're not being serious. I'm going to say William said that, but I literally heard it was the runs weren't even that impressive. Okay. Now I know you're not being serious at this point in time. Like if you know, so that little 34 yard touchdown run wasn't impressive. Well, okay. Now I just know you're, that you're still being emotional and just a hater. But I do William understand the, the dichotomy of how we felt on set, cause we all, I felt it, Vince felt it. Sean Davis felt it. Trevor felt it. Ryan felt we all felt like, man, where was some of this last week? You know what I mean? Like I get it, but it still doesn't take away from what we saw on Saturday. And that's my whole point is we, we can talk about both the problem is some people were just jumping in and not only, not in one to talk about it, but kind of be hateful about it. And, and, and not even be willing to see that they're, you know, he wasn't great. He wasn't like, Oh my God, Heisman Trophy caliber performance. Nobody said it was, but he also wasn't what you're saying he was. You're acting like he was trash. Didn't even do anything special. Oh, okay. I thought I think 100 yards rushing in the first half is three touchdowns pre darn good. And rushing yards and rushing touchdowns count the exact same as passing yards and passing touchdowns. Right. That was my frustration, touchdown's responsible for, you know, and, and somebody said it's Chris Mitchell hurt. Chris Mitchell played quite a bit on Saturday. Right. Tyler Evans. Thanks for the super chat. I guarantee Christian Gray will have a pick six almost have three already. Yeah. Exactly. I'm going to have to Texas mom be like, who taught your son how to catch? Joking because we actually saw him play receiver in high school. He actually can catch pretty well. It's just, it's just, he, he breaks in the ball so well. Yeah. That you think he's in better position to catch the ball than he actually is. Right. You know, he's really good. Their corners are really like Benjamin got beat on that early throw, but I decided that he was pretty good. Rest of the way. No, I mean, even that first play of the game, it was Benjamin that forced that. What was the knock on him? Why is not good against a run? He's the guy that came up and kind of blew that play up inside and stuffed the run. He outside of that one play, I thought Benjamin was pretty good in that game, Vince. I don't know, you know, kind of how you felt about it, but, but yeah, I mean, he gave up that one catch early, but he was pretty darn sticking coverage after that, man. He really was. He really was Han Solo. Thanks for the super chat. Appreciate it. Shout out to Freeman for not taking his foot off the gas. He coached like a Bowden where if you can't stop my backups, we're going to keep scoring. Yeah. Bobby Bowden, you can hammer it for this all the time running a score up. He's like, look, I put my backups in the game. What are you going to be just like, and here's thing for me like that first series, they had the backups and Purdue had 11 in the box. Don't get mad at me. You left your starters in the whole game, like almost I mean, there's a couple they took out here and there, but a lot of their starters played like almost the whole, Hudson card played the whole game, I believe. So you got your starters in, you're going to put 11 in the box. Then what am I going to do? Have my guys just run into a crowded box? No, I'm going to put Steve Angeli in the game and let him run the offense. We weren't running reverses. That's why I would say, you know, we're not running reverses. We're not running, you know, we're not doing trick plays. You know, like look, we're running our offense. Your job to stop it. I can't stand in coaches that, you know, like Tennessee going for an onside kick up 35 nothing in the first step. Come on guys. Right. You know what I mean? Like no, they didn't do that. They kept running their offense and you couldn't stop it. They put their third quarterback in the game, ran their offense. You couldn't stop it. And if they would have let CJ Carr run a couple more plays instead of taking a knee, they're about to score on that drive too. You know, so, and I'll bet you if they had to put Andy and Anthony Reece back in the game, he probably would have ripped off a couple runs. That's an athletic kit. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not. That's not a shot at it. I'm just being serious, you know, it's Nebraska's eighth player of the year last year. So you didn't stop anything and you kept your starters in the game. So I was very happy to see it. Very happy to see coach Freeman still getting it. I mean, again, not running trick plays. They kicked the field. I thought he was going to go for it because a lot of teams have that meant that we're at 49 to nothing. We're not going to kick a field going, run it up. We're just going to keep running our offense. I thought that's what he was going to do, which I think that's kind of running up the score. I mean, like you wouldn't normally like just do what you normally would do in a normally in this forte down. We'd kick a field. That's what he did. Yeah. And it's your job to stop us. I was very happy that Marcus Freeman kept his foot on the gas because again, what did we always say, Han, about why we had an issue with that with Kelly, because it's a mentality. Once you get a lead, back off and how many times we see their name get up 14, 17 points and then blow it and let that team back in the game saw it against Northwestern saw against Florida State in 2021. Remember, they went up 38 24 and took their foot off the gas and Florida State came back and tied the ball game. It's a mentality to say when we're out here, we're competing for 60 minutes and it was especially important after last week. Absolutely. This is from the president mints, 410 JP just saying hello. Go Irish. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, I do now. Yeah. What's up, press? Appreciate you. Thanks for your leadership. Yeah. I do. I know exactly. He's still waiting on that jersey. Yeah. That's right. I really want to be a fan. Always great to see you in the chat. Always great to see you in the chat. That's fantastic. Dennis Stockton. Thanks for the super chat. I appreciate you very much. Kennedy earlacker made a textbook tackle with the hat on the ball. He was he made several like teaching tape hits on Saturday, like the one play I think they ran like a swing pass and he just invents if you go, you saw he was not that he was not that close line of scrimmage. He was actually pretty far back and I'm like, Oh my gosh. Who is that kid? Luke Taloch had a couple of plays like they're just like, dude, this is their third string safeties and they are flying to the ball against Purdue starters and blowing them up resort games in or no, no gains like, that was fun to watch. That was really fun to watch. Chris Allen. Thanks for the super chat. Coach D needs a BS whistle. LOL. Like and subscribe. Thank you, Chris. It'd be really funny. It would get super annoying really fast and would it would be fun to do it. We have a silent BS whistle. It's called the timeout button. Yes. Yes. Yes. Very just like a dog whistle. Can't hear it, but you can see the reaction. Andy Milton fan. Thanks for the super chat. Did we get a ventures end game version of Thor? That's messed up. Do you get that? Yes, I get it. Look, I don't know what's going on. Vince never saw him and Sean Davis and I are watching this kid and fall camp in the first day of praying. He's booming the heck out of the ball. Just catching it. And then since he's been here in games, they're having him do that rugby crap. I know you had a couple of normal ones, but it's like once you start doing that all the time, like that's clearly not something he's comfortable with, right, as a regular punt. Like I get it when you're like, you know, may your own 45 and you're, but they're doing it like deep. I don't understand, man. It really doesn't make no sense. I don't get what they're doing. I've seen this kid, Vince, I told you that like four and a half plus second hang. Now maybe he's just not good in games, but like you're not letting him use the technique that we saw him use to kick those balls. You're doing this rugby stuff. And I don't get it. It's no sense to me. I mean, maybe he's not a gamer, but we, in my opinion, we don't know that until he's allowed to at least do what he did to get recruited by Notre Dame with, you know, do what he did to get you to fly over to Australia, watch him, boom, some puns and then offer him a scholarship. I mean, you can literally have anyone on your roster do the stuff you're asking him to. You didn't need it. You didn't need that. I'm talking walk-ons. Yes. You didn't need to go put, give a scholarship to a kid from Australia who can boom the heck out of the mall to have him do this. So I am, I am, I am upset at this point because they brought in a guy that they're just asking him to kick 35 yard puns. Like that's, that's not what you bring a guy in for. You know what I mean? He's not good at it. Come on. Yeah. Last one, Vince. Anymore. Let's get Driscoll a coach's hat, go Irish. I'm good. Yeah. I'm good. I, I got back in coaching in 12 and 13 and quickly remembered why I got out of coaching. It's a lot of stuff. I just like, oh, you know what? I love game day. I love the relationships, the players. Yeah. Yeah. I don't love being gone for three months and not seeing my wife because I'm on the road recruiting. Yeah. I don't miss the, you move up in the, in the, you moving up and coaching as a combination of your talent. Plus you've got to kiss a major booty. That was not my style. And it just, it was like, you know, I loved what I was doing. If I, you know, covering the team and stuff like that and it was just like, you know, and my wife was, Angela was a great coach's wife, but it was a sacrifice that she didn't sign up for. It's like, you know, like when you and your wife met, she, you, she always kind of knew you wanted to, you know, get into coaching. You guys met young and that was always your, your, your dream. And when you get married, when you get, when you meet as young as you guys did, you always kind of know there's going to be some changes when we get older and, you know, but like my wife didn't think she was marrying a coach. And she was great at it, but it just, it was hard. And I'll be honest with you completely also, I was not a very good husband as a coach because I was so focused on that career that I wasn't, I didn't prioritize being a husband above being a coach. And I don't know that I have it in me to do that. And so it was time to say, Hey, you know, God challenged me to say, Hey, look, what's more important to you being a husband or being a coach. All right. And it was being a husband, because some people can do both. Some people can do with I sure I can. And so, but I appreciate you. Well, yeah, and to your point, the reason I never got into big time coaching is because of my family. I didn't want to have to uproot them every however many years and, and all that I made a family decision. You know, I would love to be like a player personnel or a coach or so like that would be so much fun. But it's just and I worked for a guy that's at Muleenburg College, Mike Dolly, he's passed away since then, but he was DC at Columbia when Marcellus Y was there. He decided to come be a division three head coach because he wanted to be able to go to his kids' plays and, you know, be a dad and he could do it. I couldn't do it. Even at that level, I couldn't do that. I was, I was, you know, locked in. Yeah. And not locked in because he was too. It was more obsessed. But yeah, no, I get it. I couldn't prioritize it. I know you're explaining it to other people. And so I was single most of my coaching career. But when I got back in later, I was then married and just realized I was not. Yeah. Not able to manage both effectively. And I wasn't able to not bring home work. You know, we'd be sitting there having dinner and I'd have a recruit text or call and I'd step away from the dinner table to talk to the recruit. Yeah. Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So we did have one more pop-up Vince. Oh, we did. Little guy 131. Thanks for the super chat. Sorry for the late post and other special teams news. That our name was so close to blocking three puns in the first half. They definitely saw something. They were. Yeah. Because they got it from both sides. They're going to get one. Yeah. Logan Thomas almost had one. Yeah. And they've got some super athletic dudes trying to lock puns, man. Like, they do. They're going to get one or more, you know, at some point. There's no doubt about it. So, yeah. That was fun to see. That was absolutely fun to see. All right. Well, that is going to do it for this edition of a pawn further review. Thanks for hanging out with us. Everybody really appreciate it. Make sure you hit that like button, that subscribe button, that notification bell. Share with your family and friends. Leave us a five star review if you want on the podcast side. That'd be cool. They'll also make sure you jump on the boards, boards.hoursbreakdown.com right there along the bottom. There's going to be some film breakdowns tomorrow on the boards. That's what Brian is going to spend his time doing. The next time that we have a podcast slash YouTube live will be tomorrow at five o'clock. I'm on Steyers and myself will be coming right at you with Ivy Nation Sports Talk and we'll be breaking down Marcus Freeman's press conference and I'm sure there's going to be news given to us at that point that we can talk about. We'll put that injury stuff on the board now. But if you are a member of the board, you're going to get some insight earlier on than the people that aren't. So make sure you go and check that out. So for Brian, I'm Vince and we will talk to you next time on a pawn further review. And the Irish Breakdown Podcast, have a wonderful Sunday everybody. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
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