Rabbi Joey Soffer Shiurim
Bava Batra daf 89
And guys how are you? Today is September 22nd and we are on the "pei tete" We stopped yesterday on "pei heit" "I moved back" like four lines from the bottom page uh five lines, first word line is "la hato" "The amaribile vi boar ei" that's where we are okay "pei heit I moved back on the bottom" Last word line is "kemi dot" there's a period at least in my book "the amaribile vi boar ei" "shilok" "mei date kodos baarukumidab ba sabadam" "come and see that Hashem's ways are not like the ways of men" "Hakados baaruku berech i sail baest iim vishtain" "Uklaan bishmona" "Berechan bishtain mein mein mein behukotai" "ad komimiyut" "the keilan bishmona mein mein behukotai" "teem asu" "ad eit hukotai galaan afsham" so he says "when Hashem cursed bnei sail in behukotai" and he saw yesterday he talked about yesterday the curse is in two places in Torah we have behukotai and we have "kitavo" so behukotai Hashem used the words "behukotai" from the letter "bet" "ad komimiyut" sorry he said when he started with "embehukotai" "ad komimiyut" "keil alan bishmona" how he says because it says i skip my play so i lost the play sorry one more time "a kalaan bahr fubirach ei sail bishtain" "keilan bishmona" "he blessed us with 22 letters and cursed us with only eight" okay so he says "behukotai" "behukotai" "behukotai" "ad komimiyut" okay which is all the letters of the afhula basically starting with "bet" to the taf "Uklaan bishmona" "alweez" right because if you start with the "em" "embehukotai" is the "alweez" and at the end of the "bet" "ahkot" the last word is "komimiyut" so "alweez" it starts with the "alwe" it ends with the taf "teil" "bet" "ahkot" or the full alphabet span even though it doubles and triples of course the letters but used all the letters the first letters "alweez" is the taf "klaan" when he started with the curses it says "meem" "embehukotai" "tim asu" "ad kokotai" "galan" "galan" "fsham" it ends with a lot of "em" which is only eight letters from "alweez" to "mem" it's eight letters so he says "barah 22" and the curse is eight "the illo moshirabinu" when we comes to now "barah shaikitavo" which is "moshir" talking so the curses start with the "vav" and with the "hay" so it goes all the way through the span of the alphabet around to the back all 22 as opposed to the "barah shaikit" which went only from "vavtameem" fine that's the way that "asbam" explains it okay and "korayal" "amakoshir" so we said yesterday about this measuring the sticks you know the measuring the scales you know in the "mishnad" said if you use the the fat one you can use the skinny one you're the skinny one the fat one right in my home "managamakom" was back and the "mishnad" was on yesterday yeah here is the back of yesterday's page all right the bottom starts at the bottom "gassam" "amakom shaikitavo" so did "a shaikitavo" how we got there i think it's just the same "barah" i might have to be the "v" yeah because we have before i might have to be the "kashayo" and "shaikitavo" and "shaikitavo" and "shaikitavo" right right here's the one for measurements it's the same "barah" right there's well all right so once you talked about the curses over there for cursing people because they were doing things in problem business so he gave his other "dana shaikitavo" also but otherwise it's really not connected to what we're doing for other than that okay so here we go "makom shaikitavo" we have the "managamak" to measure with the fat one you can't measure with the skinny one "tarabana" "minachin" "makom shaikitavo" "makom shaikitavo" "minachin" "makom shaikitavo" "makom shaikitavo" when you go to the store to buy a dry measurement right there's two ways you can buy it you can buy it flat at the top of the level of the measure measuring cup or you can buy it "heaping" right so "gadush" is heaping and "makok" is the flat one so when it says "how do i know" "makom shaikitavo" "makom shaikitavo" and "makom shaikitavo" "makokinavo" "makokinavo" "makom shaikitavo" now you can't you can't sell flat levels in a place where the "minachinavo" is the cell heaping and you stick the dry let's it flower you put your measuring cup you get a nice heaping spoon right if the "makom" is to sell it that way and you're selling the measuring cup with the heap on top you have to sell it that way you can't go level it out and sell it without "anafuq" if it's my place it's a place to be "makokinavo" you can't be "gaudesh" "tamu lomar" "e fa shile ma" okay "e fa shile ma" "reel the pasuq" "pasuq" "pasuq" is like this "evan shile ma vasedek yelach" "e fa shile ma vasedek yelach" now "inafuq is a fixed measurement" so "inafuq" we know what it is you tell me "shile ma" well that what do you mean "ho" that depends on where you are because sometimes "afuq" can be bigger than "inafuq" how when they sell it "gadush" right the cup is "inafuq" size and then "shile" of course "shile" no no how do i mean that the thing i'm going to sell you "inafuq" with only half cup full right let's don't understand it so we say "shile" what does it mean? no that means "the gadush" right on top okay "omina'in chibamar halei mukhek bamakoshigochin" "billif haute lomina' dameem" "badde gaudesh bamakoshin mukhoshin mukhahkiin below siflaw dameem" "sha'en chibin lo" and how do we know what do i tell the guy out right listen in my store i sell gadush even though it's "makom" is "mahok" but i'm going to charge you a little extra i'm going to charge you the extra price right so mine is a little more expensive because you're getting more "or hafuk" i'm going to sell a little cheaper because i sell mine i know everyone sells it "beeping" i'm going to sell mine flat and i'm going to sell it i'm going to tell the guy you're going to get discount because i'm selling it for how do i know with "insham" in lo that the seller can tell i'm sorry i want the "mahikamakom" "tamulomat" "ifashig" "imavasedek" "yelif" uh finish okay so it was "ifavasedek" right of course "tamulomat" "ifashig" "imavasedek" "gadush bam" "let tafuyaa ta ta" "edon" "if it's "sedek" "mikomakom" it has to be be righteous no matter what. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) No, we have to be absolutely upright. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) So how do I know if it's the place in this neighborhood, is the menag to sell it with the scales unbalanced, you're giving more to the buyer, how do I know I'm not allowed to sell level? Or the inverse, how do I know if this place is the place where we sell it unbalanced? That I'm not allowed to sell it balanced. (speaks in foreign language) You have to have a complete size, the oven is the stone, but there's a weight, okay? (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Same as before, how do I know it's a place where we sell level, but I'm gonna sell it unleveled and charged more. Or it's a place where we sell unleveled and I'm gonna sell leveled and charged less, right? (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) You're not allowed to have in your house, the pursuit says, (speaks in foreign language) You don't have two different sizes that are called the same thing, I think that's the pursuit, if I remember correctly. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) There's multiple pieces, there's only (speaks in foreign language) This says other things also, (speaks in foreign language) There's a whole bunch of them over there. But anyway, so how do I know I'm not allowed to have multiple your utensils that are different sizes, right? The guy walks in and wants to (speaks in foreign language) I pulled out the one that's a little bit smaller. How do you know you're not allowed to have them? (speaks in foreign language) So he says (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Okay, 'cause (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Oh, this is very nice (speaks in foreign language) Okay, this is what he's saying. Okay, (speaks in foreign language) I'm gonna read it two ways, very nice. I like this (speaks in foreign language) Let's do this, (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Shouldn't have in your house two different size measuring cups, a big one and a small one. Now, if you read it this way, (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Your house is not gonna have any blessing. (speaks in foreign language) You know why? (speaks in foreign language) 'Cause you had two different measuring cups. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) All right, that's what you say. (speaks in foreign language) And then the other person says (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Shouldn't have in your pocket two different size measuring stones, weight stones, a big one and a small one. You can read the same way. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) You know why your pocket's gonna be empty. (speaks in foreign language) 'Cause you had two size measuring cups. (speaks in foreign language) All right? Yeah, very nice. Okay, so he says (clears throat) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) If you keep reading, (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) So you read it the same way, right? (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Beautiful, beautiful. Yeah, you were not, (speaks in foreign language) I have to tell you this story. - Yes, please. - It was a fantastic story, and it needs to be blown up and the whole world is the other story. Ezra Catan told us when he started working by his, in the office, by his grandfather, (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) They used to sell, they sell fabric, they were fabric sellers, they were nice fabrics, the importers, whatever it was, and they used to buy the fabric in meters and sell it in yards. So Ezra's job, when he first started working, was to remark the rules from meters to yards. So he said he told the guy in the worker, he told the worker when they started, just add 10%, because there's a very small difference between meters and yards. They're both approximately about within each other, three feet is what you would say, but the meters are a dot smaller than yards. The difference was something like 2.963 feet per meter, right? And the yard is three feet, right? So it's off by 0.3, whatever the number, a very small number. So Ezra told the guy, just round it off, it's all the workers, mock the rules. One day his grandfather walks in, he sees the guy, he says, "What are you doing?" He looks at him, he says, "What are you doing?" And Ezra told me that he got so angry at Ezra, wouldn't talk to him the whole day. The whole day he wouldn't talk to him. The next day he picked them up in the car to the office, wouldn't say where to. Called him into his office and started screaming at him. You're cheating the customer? He's telling me, "Grab her, it's 0.6." He says, "They're going to get to Shamani after 120, they're going to ask me if I was honest in business." And because of you, now I have to start screaming at him. By 0.66, whatever the number was, some nonsense little number. No, no. This is what he's talking about. If I... Do you want to have... Evan? Evan, for Evan? Right? Then you're going to have Barakah. Do you have two different ones? No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. It's also the problem. He said it affected so many people. Yeah, he says, "I don't know. You can't get it back." He says, "I don't know when... How long are you doing this for? The tradition of the area of this place you were at." Yeah, but it's, I don't know. They're converting meters into yards. This is a fixed number. Right, right. It's a fixed number. It's a fixed number, everybody knows the meters of yards. Do the math. Right? Unbelievable story. Anyway, fine. The old time is, you know? No. Charlo, we should all be like that. So he says, "Loya, lecha, mila, mein, shema, mein, agar, agar de mon, le me doth." When he says, "Tora, you're not allowed to have." He says, "You know what that means? We appoint police. To come spot check people's measuring cups. To make sure that nobody's cheating anybody. The in-ma, mein, agar de mein, la charin. Okay? Pricing, we're not so concerned about. That's what he says. We don't have police for the price. We don't have, you know, but we do have for the cups. De ban de si ao quimu agar de mein, bein, le me doth? Bein la charin. Okay? So the house that I see set up, you know, what do you call it? The better business bureau. Better business bureau. They were checking the prices and the, and the cups. Okay? (speaks in foreign language) Go out and tell them, they're doing wrong. But I thought it says, "We only put people to check the weights and measures. We don't put people to check the prices." Okay? So kind of went out. What did he do? (speaks in foreign language) So he made an announcement. (speaks in foreign language) We do appoint police both for the price of the prices and the cups. That's what went crazy. 'Cause he told them to tell them the opposite, okay? (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Okay? (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) He told him he should have a horn. (speaks in foreign language) His name, his name is a horn. (speaks in foreign language) He should have a horn in your eye. When I says a horn, a horn grew in his eye. (speaks in foreign language) A horn, it could be like a, what do you call it? It's a cataract or some kind of growth or whatever happened. But he got cursed from Shua. It's fine. (speaks in foreign language) Who's he holding like? If Shua was telling him, right, with this dollar car, Shmoocana has to have some kind of backup. Where's he coming from? He says (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Why? (speaks in foreign language) The statement, the name of the name of the name of the hammer, that we do appoint police both for the measures and the pricing, why? Because we're concerned about the, you know, people that are unscrupulous. Fine. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Okay, imagine this (speaks in foreign language) says his follows. (speaks in foreign language) Give him a pound. (speaks in foreign language) Give him a pound. Give him a pound. (speaks in foreign language) Give him a quarter pound. (speaks in foreign language) No? (speaks in foreign language) Thank you very much. (speaks in foreign language) Tell me what you're trying to teach me exactly? Give the guy what he is. (speaks in foreign language) What he's saying, right? (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) The (speaks in foreign language) The (speaks in foreign language) The (speaks in foreign language) is teaching you that that's the smallest measurement, a quarter of a pound. We don't have to make weights less than that size. So if the guy can't buy less, that's the minimum number. That's what he's telling you. Okay. (speaks in foreign language) Whatever that is. (speaks in foreign language) The (speaks in foreign language) It's a little bit less than a pound. (speaks in foreign language) What in our language would be a pound? (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) What if he asked for three quarters of a pound? (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) A hot. A hot. (speaks in foreign language) I can't ask him (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Guy walks to the butcher shop, one three quarters of a pound. (speaks in foreign language) So now there is no three quarter weight. (speaks in foreign language) We just said there's a pound. (speaks in foreign language) I have, and a quarter. (speaks in foreign language) So the customer can't tell the butcher, (speaks in foreign language) weigh me three quarters, one, two, three. Rather, what does he do? He puts a one pound weight on one side and meet with a quarter pound weight on the other side. So that now, he puts the weight on both sides. A pound on one side, a quarter on the other side, and then the meat. And therefore he's got three quarters of a pound, because the other quarter that's going to make it balanced is the weight itself, okay? Which basically, it's beneficial to the salesman, to the store, keeper. Every minute I got to weigh you a quarter, quarter quarter, you want three quarters? I have customers waiting. I can do it in one shot, as opposed to in three shots. Fine. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) I said (speaks in foreign language) I want ten literas, ten pounds. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Right? (speaks in foreign language) Right? Don't, I don't have to go now, right? Remember that we're supposed to also add a little extra onto the weight, right? So, I need ten pounds, but I want you to weigh them one one, so I get the extra on each one of the tens. Right? (speaks in foreign language) No, no, we don't do that. Right? (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) So I guess they had multiple one pound weights. They could put ten of them on one side, put the ten of the weight on the other side, but only one little extra, right? That's fine. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Okay? (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Pause. So he says, "This is the scale now." Okay? We're talking about the balance scale, and there's two types of balance scales. There's one that hangs for the ceiling, and there's a standing one, right? You're not going to hang in the air, where the scales are on the bottom, and the weight, the string is in the middle, or the inverse, where the base is on the bottom, right? And the strings are hanging down, and we're going to balance it for the top, right? Okay. Fine. So, look at the dajbaam over here, so he explains this the language of which part of which part is which to scale, so he says like this. (speaks in foreign language) See it? (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) That's what we would call the fulcrum, right? That's the middle piece. That holds the balance, right? (speaks in foreign language) Okay, you're fair. Yeah, yeah. It's a balance scale. So, the nephish is the middle lock, the little, that's holding the bars, the balances, right? So, that is our nephish. Okay. So, he's going to tell you now. What's the size of the scale? This way, this way, right? It makes apparently a difference in measure, it's a longer to scale. The more accurate, you'll see now how it works, exactly. We're going to get a little, what do you call it? A little lesson in... (speaks in foreign language) No, yeah, a lesson in... What's the science? It's called the physics. Thank you. That's the word I was looking for. It's a physics lesson. Thank you. Thank you, Joe. Okay. So, like this. (speaks in foreign language) If it's hanging up in the air, (speaks in foreign language) that's to be three tachim from the ceiling. The (speaks in foreign language) it also needs to be at least three tachim off the ground. Okay. (speaks in foreign language) That's the center piece. (speaks in foreign language) That's the rope. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Okay. So, 12, 12 tachim for the ball. Right? And the strings, 12 tachim. (speaks in foreign language) If you're selling wool, (speaks in foreign language) that's the glass, guys. (speaks in foreign language) That's the glass, guys. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) That's, again, the ball, the center and the strings. (speaks in foreign language) Okay. (speaks in foreign language) If it's the regular grocer, this is the modern scale that everyone uses, let's call it, right? The common one. (speaks in foreign language) If it's hanging in the air, it has to be at least a tefak for the ceiling. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Okay. And the middle and the string, six tachim. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) I think that's the guy that sells like, what do you call it? Like a metal or weight. (speaks in foreign language) This is small scales. (speaks in foreign language) Let's see. (speaks in foreign language) Okay, yeah, that has to be. So it's a tefak. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Any idea? I don't know how long it's supposed to be. Okay. (speaks in foreign language) So that's his statement so far. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Look at the, yeah. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) Right? The guy's way expensive things. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Good. (speaks in foreign language) All right. (speaks in foreign language) So back to where we are. He says, "I don't know about the size of the ropes and the size of the center pole for these gold and silver skills." Okay. (speaks in foreign language) If you notice, when we started out, but I started out with the description of a scale that was in this three (speaks in foreign language) from the top, right, and whatever it was, 12 (speaks in foreign language) Right? For the rope and thing. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah. 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