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On this deal breakers Thursday went up and phone lines for you, 312-332-3776 is our telephone number and cap we inch closer and closer to the Bears and the Colts. But we were able to hear it from Eddie Rifluce, he got a chance to talk to the press yesterday. Of course you and I get a chance to talk to the coach after every Bears game right here on cap and Jay Hood on ESPN 1000. And then, you know, the theme of his press conference cap is, you know, the independent Mike Club was going to ask is about the offensive line. Seems like the theme was continuity. That was the key phrase yesterday. Yes, he wants to keep everything with continuity to the best of their ability because they're banged up. If you look at the injury report from yesterday, Kevin Jenkins got a thigh and Nate Davis shockingly was limited. So they're a little bit banged up on the offensive line, obviously they had their lunch money taken away from them by the Houston Texans the other day. But here's the thing I would say to you, if the guys that are backups can't beat out the guys we have already, then I guess continuity is the one thing that you can have going for you. And keep trying to fix it, maybe run more downhill rather than trying to stretch the defense, trying to go around the end where you're on a silent count that may be what they have to do again this week because of the noise in a domed building. So you better play play well you better be better. So the thoughts for Matty were flus here, the head coach for the Bears. First of all, let's talk to us here from him talking about offensive line continuity. Will there be changes? Well, Kevin's not out there today but that's not going to be a change so being there for him but as we all know but I would say that right now now. Yeah, I mean we're looking for continuity and consistency and communication and getting better. That's what we're focused on. So I just think I go back to my original comment, it's fundamentals, it's basics and it's important that we get that down as a group. And so we're going back to that, that's what we're in football game. How about your offensive identity, who are you? We're working. Yeah, we're working. So we're working and guys are working in fundamentals and we're figuring out what we do. Well, it's a second game in our offense so we're going to figure it out. I believe that we got better last week in terms of rhythm, timing, passing, distributing the ball to the skill. Okay, now we're working, run game, all the other things that come off of that and like I said, we're working progress. And I believe in the coaches and I believe in the players and the guys are working to get that done. He hasn't known the choice cap. I know that people listening to this recoil at what he just said for 30 seconds but when you look at your roster, this is who you are for now. Now, I trust that Ryan Polls looks at the same issues that we see and says if there's someone that's available, I will pick them up and I will do what it takes to be able to keep this team and the quarterback upright because that's important. The numbers are what they are, Cap. Instead of getting comfortable with the short passing game, Caleb Williams was trying to make too much happen and that's because the offensive line was rickety. He's just got four-point, he's got four yards per pass attempt. That's 59th out of 60 qualified passes in the NFL last year. That's what it would be last year. He would have been almost dead last with four yards per attempt. Only worse would be Dorian Thompson Robinson, if you remember him from last year, that had 3.9 yards per attempt. So again, the offensive line gets you there. That's why it looks the way it does. Right. And would you say 29 out of 30? Was that the number? It's 59th out of 60. That's what it would have been last year if you're doing four yards per play attempt. Correct. So let me give you a stat for those pouring their coffee or going to work, taking the kids to school. Oh, God, it's just the same old table versus the Houston Texans in a clean pocket where his offensive line held up. Caleb Williams, 76% of his pass is completed for 141 yards and no picks. Those are outstanding numbers. Well, how did he do when he was under duress? 33% of his pass is completed for 33 yards and two picks. Damn. Yes. Now, having said that, we all know we all watch the NFL. We all watch football. We know that there's going to be times where a quarterback is going to have to move out of the pocket. He's going to have to move around because the offensive line does not hold up. So it's never going to be perfect. But what you just laid out there is when the offensive line did hold up for three seconds or less, you saw Caleb Williams being able to flourish. That mean touchdowns, but again, the ball was getting down the field. Right. And he was six fastest in getting the ball out. Now, one of the big things that bears did not like about Justin Fields, he didn't get the ball out on time. How many times has Jay Moore played? Throw it. And we're going to have our guy Tom Thayer on today. That was the play that he got hurt on against Minnesota when he held the ball and held the ball. All of a sudden, he dislocates his thumb. If you get the ball out on time, you're still playing. Tyson Beijer wouldn't have seen the field. And it opened their eyes too. We can do better. They got the number one pick and better or they believe is Caleb Williams. You've got to keep the kid clean. You've got to keep him upright. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely. He's a rookie quarterback in a league full of grown ass men. With the evil intent when they come off the ball. That's a fact. It's not going to be the last pick he throws. They have got to establish the run. I scream that every, you know, I say that to you walking the elevator down in the parking garage every day. Gotta run the football. That will open up the ability to hit the deep ball. And then when you get one, Keenan Allen or DeAndre Carter or Romadunze or DJ Moore, you got to hit it. You got to hit him. I know people don't want to hear continuity, but just understand what the Bears have done. And again, it's more good than bad as far as how the rosters build cap. It's just that here we are again, this time during the NFL season talking about offensive line issues. If Justin Fields is the quarterback for the Chicago Bears, now he'd go through the same issues that Caleb's going through. Correct. But of course, Justin is a guy that holds a ball too long, but he does make those splash plays here or there. We've always seen that with Pittsburgh right now. We're keeping our eyes on Justin Fields obviously because we want that draft pick. We want that fourth round pick. Correct. And I think that he will get 51% of the snaps. What the point is that no matter who's back there, this is not trying to hold on to the the apron strings of Justin Fields. What we're saying is is that whoever's back there cap, if you don't have time, it's not going to work. That means your running game doesn't work. That means your quarterback can't get it down the field. And so it's the same issue. My whole point is is that when Iber Flus says continuity, he says that because they have no choices right now. I think moving forward throughout the season, there will be choices. That also tells me that when he says he believes in continuity, it sounds like that Nate Davis is going to start against the Colts. If he says continuity, unless they look at it and evaluate it more and say, "Hey, Matt Pryor, are you ready?" He says continuity. That means I think that Davis is going to play on Sunday. It sounds like it. Yeah. It sounds like he wants him out there. He's certainly their most gifted right tackle, a right guard. Certainly their most gifted. Matt Pryor is a backup for a reason. Who's the other kid? Bill Murray? Yep. He's a better actor than an offensive lineman, obviously. So this is an opportunity against a Colts team that's given up over 200 yards a game on the ground. But you've got to stay wedded to that attack. And then when they are loading up the box, okay Caleb, we're going downtown. When we take shots, you've got to make those plays when you get those opportunities. That's how Green Bay won last week. We're going to run the ball. We're going to run it right down your throat. We'll make a few plays in the passing game. We just got to get on the plane with a victory. That's it. I don't care if you win three to nothing to be honest with you. I'd like to see more. You've got to be two in one. It's a winnable football game. Let's pull the curtain back. You want to pull the curtain back? Let's do it. Can I always do that on this show? I slept at the curtains open last night because my wife has been out of town on business. This is true. This is true. I hate being alone in the house. During the day, I come home. I got the dogs and I eat my whatever. I finish my workout. When my wife's gone, I can't sleep. Two o'clock in the morning, I'm sending text to you guys. I'll probably run on this show. I can't sleep. I hate it. So the curtains were wide open. I need the moonlight to shine in because I hate the dark. The moonlight, you said. I did. You prefer the moonlight shining in. I want the cars going by. I can hear them. I can let the headlights shining in. I hate being alone. I don't like it. At night. I don't like it. I think somebody's going to come get you. It's not bad. I got the alarm on. It's not bad. The alarm will stop. Okay. All right. I just, I can't sleep. Being in bed by myself, not a fan. No one's going to get you. You've got three dogs and you've got an alarm, but you don't like being alone. No. Just coming back today. You would think that the dogs would give you enough attention. You could give them an audience, but that's... They're sleeping right there in bed with me. I know. They can't respond back to your nonsense. No. Yeah. I know. That's got to be tough. First world problems. What I was going to say is pulling the curtain back when it comes to offensive geniuses. You've been around them in basketball, whether as a broadcaster or as a coach and self on the other side. You know the offensive genius loves to show you stuff. They love to show you these plays, Captain. They love this. Hey, you see this? You can't stop this, cab. You see this, right? Put this play. This play, you can't stop it. And the offensive genius is, you know, like Matt Nagy will have this voluminous book of different plays and tricks and all this other stuff. That's the reason why he flourished in his first view with the Bears. Same thing with the shaking hands of Shane Waldron. Have you seen the videos in the game? Like, he's so intense. He makes a cup of coffee nervous. His hands is shaking. You see, it's like, you know, it's no wonder Caleb can't get through this guy's hands shaking. Right. Pull up the videos. They're all social media. He's right, man. Calm down. What? What? He's such a genius. He's just like, you can breathe in? Alright, Caleb, here we go. I was with one of the players at an event the other day. And I said, how about your OC with shaking his hand? He's like, what do you mean? Like, did you not see the play sheet shaking? He's like, dude, I'm in the middle of the game. No. I'm just saying. Hang on a minute. I pulled it up on social media. He's like, oh, I'm going to drill in the trash. Man, listen, I know the intensity is there. Like, I mean, the adrenaline is flowing. He's going to get carpal tunnel just because how hard he holds the play sheet. Calm down. Geez. Can I see the trainer? My wrist is killing me. What are you doing? Don't wonder you can't get plays off. Stop shaking the sheet for God's sake. But you make a very, very lucid point. Oh, well, well, my point, the whole point of that, besides the bit of him, it's actually not in a bit. Just watch him and just handshake it. The point is, is that you say and I say they should run the football more. But that takes away from the genius. That's what your lucid point is. I knew where you were going. Yes. Because we've discussed this. What did Matt Nagy say when he first got here? I'm not here to run the I formation. Correct. The T formation. And my response to him once was, dude, you're here to win football games. I have a way I want to win those games. Well, that didn't work out. So you're the back of the OC and KC. The whole thing is, like Kyle Shanahan, who I think waddle, like that's his bromance. Sure. Sure. Kyle Shanahan showed me something when they beat the Packers in Green Bay and the, was it the NFC title game or the first round, saying around the playoffs? And they ran the football effectively. Yes. And then they went to the NFC title game and they threw seven passes. Seven. Yes. And after the game, somebody said, you're an offensive wizard. You threw seven passes. And he said, you know what I've learned? The runs working. Why not stick with it? Of course. But you're right. Shane Waldron and Matt Nagy and all these other guys. They got to show you how cute they are. Did you see that play we ran? No, I would rather you hand the ball off to Rocha Johnson and pick up the three yards. Yeah. What happened with the sticks? What happened when Santa's sleigh didn't work? He got fired. You know, look at this razzle dazzle. How about that? Hitting people in the ribs with his elbow. Like, ah, look at that. Huh? Pretty good. Okay. So for guys like Shane Waldron, and again, you give him all the credit in the world. He turned around Gino Smith's career. He worked with Russell Wilson. Did he not a little bit in Seattle? Point is those that a I know that you have this voluminous book and you have all these different plays. But again, for the first time you're working with a rookie quarterback, ease him in. Don't give him the advanced test. Give him the intermediate test. Correct. Meaning that if you run the football 30 times, no one's going to say that guy's terrible as an offensive coordinator. They'll say, hey, you know, what's smart game plans, especially if you win. Don't feel like you just got to, well, we got to be able to put these plays in. And of course, it all has to work in concert cap. But I'm saying is, as you well know, and we know this from the basketball standpoint, the quote unquote offensive coordinator for a basketball team is going to show you how to be able to get that open three. Let me show you how we did it. Look at the up and under we able to do and look for the open man. Let me show you how we did it. Just get the basket. Don't worry about the razzled out. Just show me how you can get to the game. Can I get two points? Can I get three points? Well, do we need to run those four double screens and we ran right down to the shot clock? Yes. I just threw it into 54. He's a big guy and he laid it in. Yes. That's the way he's your play. That's what I would say to Shane Waldron. That sometimes you can have a book and he's like, man, we got all these great plays. Well, you know what? Sometimes you have to take that book and just give him just a little bit. Right. And just for it. Just give him a little bit more. That's all. It just I don't you don't have to outsmart the room. Just win games. That's it. That's my point. That's it. Just win the football game. That's all I care about. 3 1 2 3 3 2 ESPN, 3 3 2 3 7 7 6 our phone number you heard from. You heard from Maddie Reflow's talk about continuity with the offensive line. That means that it's going to be the same going into the Colts game based on what we heard yesterday. Do you think that the Bears can beat the Colts without changes to the offensive line? Let's get your thoughts in. Also still to come from thoughts from DJ Moore. Did you have to apologize to Caleb? You'll hear from DJ Moore next on the cap and Jhood Morning Show. [MUSIC] Cap and Jhood are back. Oh, cap. Jhood is a big fan, man. Copy it on me. Bop, bop, bop, bop. Watch out, fellas. All Chicago's home for sports. ESPN Chicago. [MUSIC] Here's hoping that you're going to have a great Thursday. It's a deal breakers Thursday here on the cap and Jhood Morning Show. Deal breakers at 835. The great Tom Thayer will join us at 9 o'clock in talk bears and Colts. A 3 1 2 3 3 2 ESPN, 3 3 2 3 7 7 6 is our telephone number. Still to come, we'll talk about the Chicago Cubs, the Chicago and Ashley Ball Club. We've got some, Cap and I are going to have a heart to heart about the Cubs at 735 here on ESPN 1000. You better make sure that they turn the radios off at 1060 West Addison. That would be the address to Wrigley. I understand. Because you want the truth? [MUSIC] Brother. I have not been this ticked off with a team. Okay, the bears have been going through a rebuild. It is what it is. Don't tell me, and I said to you guys, the audio of Tom Rick, it's addressing the team. I texted at 2 o'clock in the morning where he said, we can win the division and we got to work hard and blah, blah, blah. Like what? Of course, more of that comes your way at 735 here on cap and Jhood. Get me going. We turned out to be Mount Cap. Yes, well, so I know. All right. No, I just want to just let people know that it's coming. So that's important. People here to compete. My ass. Okay. Well, again, 735. Okay. Talk about the Cubs. It will be at 735. That's common. Thank you, Dan Hurley. We turn now to DJ Moore. DJ Moore, wide receiver of the Chicago Bears. This is the most ridiculous controversy we've had in some months around here. Well, it's really ridiculous cap. So, of course, over the last, I would say decade, we're looking at sideline demeanor now. Because now we have to look at body language, which is the most weird thing. Body language and sideline demeanor. And, of course, the slow-mo is trying to read the lips of players. That's what we do now, cap. Instead of just watching the games and hearing the sound bites, we have to look at sideline demeanor. So we saw DJ Moore clearly frustrate it. And I think we got aggregated. I think @ESP and 1000 on Twitter about this, right? About our thoughts about DJ Moore, whether or not it's overblown. Correct. You know, he doesn't get the football. He goes to the sideline. He says something to Tyson Beijing. Just like how he's just disappointed in the offense or disappointing in him that he can't do more for the team. So he had to address this yesterday. He was frustrated, yes. Yeah. Yes, he was frustrated, yeah. I shouldn't have shown as much, but it's the part of the game. You know, like I said, we was one player away from the game changing. And we just couldn't connect like nobody on offense could connect with the one player or get the one player started to get us on track to go up. So, I mean, I mean, the football everybody's going to have their ups and downs in frustration. It's like that playing that game of cards, cap. You're just a card away. You're almost winning. And that's what it felt like, even though the scoreboard was, what, seven points, six points away, you just couldn't punch it in again for a touchdown. So, of course, he's frustrated. Correct. And then he had the back shoulder throw. He ran a good route and Caleb's under duress and can't get the football to him. Looking at it, like, I didn't think it was. But until you look at the TV and then it's like blown up and like, and I'm like, all right, that's enough. And, you know, you can do some self-evaluation. I would say that I say that it was too much. That's going to scare you away now. No, it's not. No, it's not. It's not. I just didn't know that it was like every chance the camera got, they caught that angle. Like, I usually sit on a bench like that anyway, so I don't know what that's about. But isn't that because you know, like, I started, how great this offense can be? Yeah. And like I said, we were chasing that one play and we just couldn't get it. So I was like, bro, all right now, like, we really need somebody, anybody get it going in and we just couldn't. So that was the real frustration. That's the whole thing, Cap. I've seen this here and there on social media, like, DJ Moore hates Caleb Williams. They're super tight. Caleb came to his camp for him. These guys hang out together. They do not hate each other. That's just stupid. Was he frustrated? Yeah. He's an approval caliber, number one wide receiver who wants to win. He hasn't won in his career. He played for the freaking Panthers and then came to the Bears and won seven games. Got to keep it phony now when the camera's watching. And you shouldn't have to, Jay Moore. That's the whole thing. It's just something that you could just pick at. You look at television, it's like, oh, Caleb Williams and DJ Moore's on the same page. No, the frustration is, is that they know how good they can be. They just couldn't get that touchdown. They could not connect. Correct. That's the whole thing. And, you know, DJ Moore, the way I looked at it was, tell them, Tysa Page, man, come on. We're so close and we just can't, we can't seem to be on the same page. We can win this game and we can't. But the one thing I would say to you and he addressed it, in today's time with social media and 78 different cameras and drones over the stadium so they can get all these different shots, even he said, okay, it was too much. And he's not talking about what people's reaction, his reaction. You could beat Vent, be upset, get angry, I get it. And that's cool. There's a line. There's just a line. Okay. But, I mean, you cannot beat the competitor out of the competitor cap. Agreed. If it's on your sleeve, it's on your sleeve, man. So now what Jay Moore just laid out is, keep it phony, meaning that, you know, if you are going through struggles, just trot back to the huddle and have a chuckle on the sideline. But isn't there a happy medium? Like, let's say we did a segment and then you read a commercial and you stumbled over it like I do every day. Well, let me tell you about Falco. Spit it out. Falco. Yeah. And then we go to break. Go back to Jay Moore. He's playing whatever else. Yep. And you took your headset and you whipped it across the studio and you started screaming. And you threw it all over the top. Now, if I said hoodie, please don't throw your headset this way. You're going to hit me one time and I'm not going to be happy with you. Does it mean you're going to be phony the next time? There's a happy medium. It is. Let's see if that was on Twitch. It takes a life of his own. Exactly. And then he'd be like, okay, it's a little bit much. I got to dial it down. I look like an idiot throwing my headset against the window here because I screwed up. I've produced that before. I know what that looks like. I've been around that. No, exactly. What that looks like. Personality. Would that have been brother? Let me tell you something. That'd be our guy Danny Mack. No. That'd be not McNeil. No. He wouldn't do that. Huge. No. No. No. I was hosting when Simonson was here. His channelis is mild mannered. He would never have done that. Yeah. That's okay. Shout out to Murph listening as we turn now to DJ Moore. He apologizes the killer. Depends on which one you're talking about. I mean, everybody just was making some, I mean, people just at you and it don't even be really, really nothing. And none of the frustration was that anybody. Like I said, it was that like chasing the plate. So, I mean, I'm sorry to Caleb nationally. I don't know. I mean, shouldn't have to apologize to Caleb Williams. Shouldn't have to do it. It's just completely overblown. Hey man, there's two types of players. There's a guy that's going to wear it on his sleeve and the other one is going to just, you know, take it all in and be quiet. It's hard to have the, I mean, once you are underachieving or if there's something that's happening in the play, man, you're a competitor. You don't think about your, you don't think about your sideline demeanor cap. You just don't. I mean, look at you as a coach. You're out of your mind. If you think about your sideline demeanor, you're on sports channel Chicago. People could see what you were doing. And until I got reprimanded by the league. Yeah. For chasing an official off the floor. About your days. Those games are televised. You're out of your mind. And Jim Lessig, the old commissioner, I don't know. He's still alive. Said, you're going to go to the locker room. The next game you have Tom Clark, the official. Tom Clark to the final four. Yeah, but to be out of Northern game. You're going to walk into the locker room and you're going to apologize to him. And you will never do that again. We lost 93 to 56. Yeah. And I chased him off the floor. Yeah. Like it was his fault. Exactly right. That's true. Yeah. I walked in and he said, I knew you were coming to see me. I lost, maybe I blew a call. You lost my three. Sorry. I missed that one. You lost by almost 40. Yeah. And it was his fault. Yes. Of course. Because I was an idiot. All the controversy, if there is a controversy, is how's the offensive line get better? How does Kayla get better? This is not a controversy. DJ Moore and him talking to Tyler to Tyson Beigeant is not a controversy. It is not. But again, people slow mode. If I'm not mistaken, Jay Moore, didn't Collinsworth say something to? I believe that you had that cut from Monday. Yeah, I got you. Put it up. Yeah. So, I mean, it starts there. Right? Chris Collinsworth. It starts right there, Cap. Yeah. He was, he said something to the fact that DJ Moore doesn't look happy. Yeah. I mean, of course he's not happy. They're blowing their opportunity to drive it down and win. Jeez. 312332 ESPN is our phone number. Justin and Dallas, Texas, listening on the ESPN Chicago app. Hey, Justin. Good morning. Good morning, Cap. I hope all is well. I'm disgusted right now. Why is DJ Moore apologizing for anything? He looks soft right now. No, he doesn't. Why? What do you apologize for? Yeah. You look frustrated. We are all frustrated. And then he didn't even say anything. He just looked frustrated within the clip. So what do you apologize for? Because he, as he said, when you watch it, okay, it's a little, it's enough. Okay. You're frustrated. We get it. You can't look like you're showing up a teammate. You can't. Cap. How is he? How can you not express your feelings? He was upset. What do you apologize for? That's the wrong way to follow with this team. You've got to hold it accountable. I apologize. You've got to leave right now. I don't disagree. You hold people accountable. But again, you've got to go to work with the guy every day and you've got to develop the relationship. It was a little over the top. Justin, it's starting with Chris Collinsworth on Sunday Night Football. Once again, the text is great pressure. Well done. It's a positive back shoulder for Moore in complete. We're going to force down and bring out the field goal unit. And I know what DJ Moore is thinking. He goes, "Look, man, I squeezed that quarter to the middle of field. I left you five yards on the boundary out there. There was a lot of room for that back shoulder, just not enough time on task yet between those two. That was an opportunity." He's calling the slow-mo there the replay. Correct. And then he sees the frustration from Moore as like, "Man, we've got a chance to get that ball." And there's nothing wrong with it. Yeah. You agree. Yes. There's nothing wrong with showing the emotion. Did he go over the top? Maybe a little bit. And that's what he said. Which to video, I went a little over the top. It's so ridiculous, man. The Cubs and the Brewers. You know, they are laughing at the Cubs in Milwaukee this morning. And we're going to talk about it coming up next. Why are they laughing? You'll find out next on Captain Jayhood. Checkmate 1-6. He has suppression on target. That's why I see him in my shot. Shot or no shot with Captain Jayhood on ESPN 1000. ESPN Chicago app. That's why I see him in my shot. Good morning and welcome in to the Captain Jayhood Morning Show on ESPN 1000. And we're streaming on ESPN Chicago app with David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you. I'd remind you we got deal breakers coming away at 8.35. Can I have to say one more thing, please? Charlie Adonis is 29. He just turned it last week, two weeks ago. Swanson will be 31 before opening day. William Adonis to 248. 32 bombs. 109 driven in with a 795 OPS. Our dude, two years older. 237. 15. 63. And a 687. That's a horrible OPS. And we got, oh, I don't know, 25.2 million per season. They got him for 12.2 for a one year deal. Shout out to Jed Hoyer and his coffee this morning. Well done. Good guy. I like Jed. He's good to us. That is an awful, awful way you spent your money. 77 and 75. Here's Jack McGrath. Good morning, guys. How's it going? Have you listened to the first hour? I've listened to the first hour. What are your thoughts on the Cubs? You've heard our time. I mean, it's this hardening. Well, hold on a second, AI. Do you think that the parallel of the Packers and the Brewers and the Bears and the Cubs is sound? I think it is sound because in Milwaukee, you're seeing sustained success when you thought they were out. And multiple times we have thought the Packers have been done and out. We saw it once Brett Favre left. We saw it once Aaron Rodgers left. And we thought finally now it's our turn. And it still hasn't been the Cubs turn. It's been the Brewers for the past decade. Plus, I mean, look at it, Jack. From side to side, look at the Brewers roster and look at the Cubs roster. I mean, look at it. I mean, all the stuff, all the tumult that the Brewers have gone through too now. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. It looks as if they were able to just steamroll through the NL Central. And by the way, since May they have since May they have steamroll. They've actually led wire to wire. Did you hear Pat Murphy? What in the clubhouse with the champagne? Wire to wire. Okay. Wow. I think the Cubs were, you know, there in April. Hold on a second now. For like, yeah. For three weeks. The Cubs had something to say in April now. He got a second. Hey, Dan's B. Is it still June? Oh. I'm sure he's a wonderful husband. His wife's a great soccer player. He is a mediocre baseball player. Good defender. Good defender. Guess what? I can find those guys. I can find defenders. This dude can't hit. For 25.2 million for seven years. Sweet mother of God. Mickey Morendini, if you're listening in Indiana, you missed out on the big money. Yes, he did. That could have been your money. Dandy, little glove man. Give you good base hits there now and then. That was his money. Down Kessinger came back. Shot and no shot. Here's Jake McGrath. All right. So the Patriots are playing in prime time tonight against the Jets. It's not going to be Drake May at quarterback who was their top pick in this year's draft. It's instead going to be Jacobi Brissette. And the reason for that hasn't exactly been explained, but it's kind of been assumed is because they don't want him getting crushed behind a bad offensive line. Shot or no shot, the Patriots are doing it the right way by sitting Drake May. And the Bears are doing it the wrong way by putting Caleb Williams in the fire behind a bad offensive line. No shot. Drake May is a poor man next to Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams is a way better football player. Maybe five years from now that will reverse. Caleb Williams was ready to play. No, you're not starting Tyson Beijing right now. No. It's a no shot, Jack, because of this simply because the Bears are built to be able to be in the playoffs based on his roster composition. Think about what the Patriots don't have. They don't have the same secondary or defensive line as the Chicago Bears. They don't have the wide receivers as Chicago Bears. So the reason why that you play Caleb instead of Tyson Beijing or someone else is because of how polls will build this thing. Again, three wins and seven wins. And you hope is that the playoffs are next. But from the Patriots standpoint, Post Bill, it's supposed to look bad. And if there's, if it's any good, would, would per set, that's a good thing. But I think it's smart for them to protect Drake May because the Patriots won't be ready to win the next couple of years. They have to kind of rebuild this thing, Post Bill Belichick. Correct. We imagine this thing. So I think that the Bears plan is the right plan because of the infrastructure around Caleb. Jack? I would agree with that. If the Bears want to reach the peak, reach the pinnacle, and make a Super Bowl, then yeah, I would agree. They need, they need Caleb Williams to hit his ceiling. Oh, we changed the segment. What do you mean? I thought you're supposed to be the humble narrator. Oh, okay. Sorry. I'll return to the role. Jay Moore, this is, this is your fault. You're supposed to program him different now. All right. Shay's job. Oh, is that his chance? Oh, man. He'd be glad to tell you that. Yes. Sure. All right, Jack. What else do we have? Panthers coach Dave Kanellis says the Panthers will not trade Bryce Young. Well, shot or no shot. Bryce Young is the starting quarterback for the Carolina Panthers at the start of next year. That's a no shot. That'll be all. Wow. That's a no shot. It's a great question. But that'll be all. But here's the thing. It's not his fault cap. It's not. This is the same situation that you get all the time with the rookie quarterback. You put him in there in the fire when the team's that ready to win. What you just laid out earlier, Jack was saying, is it right for Drake May, you know, to sit and have percent be the starter? Yeah, because the Patriots aren't ready to win. Was Carolina ready to win week one with Bryce Young last year? They were not. They were not. So he will not be the quarterback next year. No, it's not his fault though. Look at the team. Look at the organization. Where are they going anytime soon? But if you're not going to trade him, now he could say that. But if you don't move him either at the deadline or in the off season, he can't come back as the backup. That's right. He won't be a Panther. I don't know if he's going to. Here's the thing. Which team would want Bryce Young at this point in time? Someone would want to do it because I thought it was an impossibility for Trey Lance to be traded. But he was. He was. I've been thinking about the New York Giants. They have Daniel Jones under contract, but they can cut that money. They might not have a top pick going into next year. The Dolphins may need them more though. If I was the 49ers, I would take a shot. 100% to hold up the bench. He'd be just training under Kyle Shanahan, the guru. And look, I'm just, what I'm saying to you, Jack is, is that Carolina is not just from an infrastructure standpoint, he shouldn't be with the football team. He should be a backup to learn. He's thrown into the fire and we talk about getting the ball out quickly. He still think he can be out trying to out athletic teams. And you saw how that works. He's been killed behind that offensive line. So I would say that he will not start with Carolina Panthers next year or start at all next year. I mean, you see them, Jack. No, he's not good, not at all. Not ready, Cap. Not ready. Someday he might be, but right now he's not. Now close your eyes unless you're driving and imagine him in a Bears uniform. The fact that Andy Dalton's still a better option than him speaks volumes. That's fair. Imagine in a Bears uniform, Cap. Oh, God, seriously, if you had kept the pick, you would have no Darno Wright work in progress, no DJ Moore, no Tyreek Stevenson, no Tory Taylor, no Kayla Williams, no second pick, next second round pick next year from the Panthers and you'd have Bryce Young in a quarterback. That'll be all. Yes. He just needs to sit behind the court of Panthers. He has to learn. That's all. It's just too much too soon. Jack. So with Jordan loves injury and assuming he's still out this weekend, I was looking at the quarterbacks in the NFC North and it occurred to me, the NFC North might have the worst group of quarterbacks currently out of all divisions in the NFL shot or no shot. The NFC North has the worst group of quarterbacks in the NFL currently. Jared Goff, Sam Darnold, Kayla Williams, Malik Willis. If Jordan Love was in there, would you say the same thing? Would you ask the same question? I think it would be a lot closer, but I still think they're near the bottom. Yes. What? Well, let's take a look at it, Cap. Let's take a look. OK. Let's say Sterling Love is the top 10 quarterback. OK. 10. Sure. Jared Goff is the top 10 quarterback. Nine. OK. Mm-hmm. Kayla is at the bottom right now. I hasn't worked his way up yet. Sam Darnold is, you know, pedestrian. Mm-hmm. Now, again, he says what he's talking about. He says the North is the worst. AFC East, Josh Allen, the former Tua, when Tua was there, Josh Bursett-- Jacobi Bursett. --and the Jets, but Aaron Rodgers. That one's way worse, is it? Aaron Rodgers, Josh Allen. Skyler Thompson and-- --and Bursett. Jacobi Bursett, stop yourself, AI Jack. Get reprogrammed. OK. AFC South. Damn. You like C.J. Stroud? Yep. Lawrence and the Titans with Will Levis. Yeah. Is that good? Oh, I mean, what you're saying has improving anything, yet he missed most of the last year with his shoulder injury. Is that better than the North, I guess? That's the question. No. OK. Um, NFC South with the Atlanta. Kirk Cousins. And Carolina, we just talked about. Yep. And with Big Red in there, with the Red Rifle. Baker Mayfield. There's Baker Mayfield in the Saints with-- Derek Carr. Yeah. That's not any better. It's only not. It's not. OK. AI. What do you think? I'm good with that. I think Malik Willis is not a top 64 quarterback in the league. So that significantly drops the North for me. I think with tour and love in there, yes. The NFC North is fine. They're right in the middle of that. Malik Willis is not a top 64 quarterback. Yes. I think I'm willing to say that based on what I've seen. Well, I know anything-- they don't throw the ball last week. With the Titans, I really don't trust the Packers being able to run the ball. I don't think it's going to look pretty for him. I would love to know in your program, AI, who's second worst? I'm looking at the divisions now. What second world? We laid out a few. NFC West, you've got Geno Smith, you've got Brock Purdy, you've got Matthew Stafford, and you've got Tyler Murray. Tyler Murray. Pretty good. Pretty good. I would say probably the NFC South. NFC South is second worst. NFC South is second worst. But Derek Carr's the wild card there. Derek Carr looks like right now a top 10 quarterback in the league the way he's playing, but I don't think he sustains that. First two games so far, he's looked really good. Put that on the pole at ESPN 1000 is the NFC North-- does the NFC North have the worst quarterbacks in football? It's the worst quarterback division in football. Seattle goes back. Correct. And when you say you're in a conversation, Jason Goff, I mean who? Who's it? Who's it? Man. Jordan Love and Jared Goff. Sorry. Man. Yeah. Quarterback man. Man. Man. That Jared Goff. Bull's lose again by his money, Kendall, what's your thoughts? Man. Is that what is this? Is that what you're talking about? No. All right. Jared Goff. Leave Jason Goff alone. All right. Do you know how-- I mean you should get royalties every time someone screws that up. Jason I'm talking about. You should get royalties every time-- every time someone mistakens Jason Goff with Jared Goff vice versa, he should get royalties. Can you squeeze in one more, Jack? Yeah. One more here. So Malik, neighbors, is fourth in the league in receiving yards right now. Marvin Harrison went off last week at a huge game. Jaden Daniels doesn't look terrible, shot or no shot, Caleb Williams' window for Rookie of the Year is already closing. I'm going home. Well, don't leave. What do you mean? Come on, Jack. He's dropped from first on the odds board all the way down to third already. He's going-- if he plays like he has the past two games, he's going to continue to drop. They've played two games, Jack. Two! Shame-- what doesn't want the nickname anymore. I'm giving it to you. First take, Jack. I mean, come on, man. What are we doing? How many more games can he still win? His window is already close. How many more games can he play like he already has and still win Rookie of the Year? Four more? Five? Look, if that-- Joe Flacco was on his couch at Thanksgiving and he won Come Back Player of the Year. Stop! Please, I'm begging you. Well, that's why he won Come Back Player of the Year. Just let it play out, man. My God. His window is already closing. Okay, stop. Please. Any time you hear that music, you're getting AEI, Jack. He's getting revved up. Hear him. He's getting mad now. I'm sorry, Jack. Don't get him upset because when he gets upset, the music starts. Oh. See this? See his back right there? See, Jack's back? It's lit up. Oh, man. Look at the button. System overload. System overload. Jay Moore, please help him. Oh, God. He's getting-- see, you pissed him off, man. Now you pissed Jack off for party expression. We turn to around the NFL. What we need to see from surprise teams, AI, Jack, is going to take a break because-- Oh, don't get upset, Jack. Oh, I'll piss him off. Jesus. This lights everywhere. The studio is upset. Around the NFL is next right here on Captain Jay Hood. Follow Chicago's home for sports on Twitter at ESPN1000. Cap and Jay Hood are back on ESPN Chicago, Chicago's home for sports. Nick Bull sucks. He sucks. I'm just a fan. I'm not a football evaluator. I love the Green Bay Packers. The guy is from, but there he goes. This is not Detroit, man. This is the Super Bowl. I love it. He starts to come at any moment. This is a really thickly built guy. I mean, what's the answer you're looking for on these things here? I'm now to go around the NFL right here on Captain Jay Hood. It's a deal breakers Thursday. We got deal breakers coming your way at 835 Tom Fair with the latest in the Bears and a matchup against the Colts. Around the NFL, here's Jack McGrath. All right. Today's theme around the NFL is what do we need to see from each surprise team to believe that they are a real contender and then we're also going to hit on the two surprise teams that are 0 and 2 and what do we need to see them do to bounce back. So I'll start off in the NFC North. The Minnesota Vikings right now, they opened the season at +750 odds to win the division. They're up to second best at +275 on most sites now. I need to see Sam Darnold keep on playing like he is because so far he's looking like a Geno Smith like resurgence. He's playing like the third overall pick that he once was. It's taken a little bit of time. I'm buying it on that defense, which is ranked very highly in DVOA. Brian Flores has it all figured out. I think the Vikings could win this division. The Vikings could win the division. Can I just tell you that if the Vikings will win the division, then I will tell you Jack that the bears are in trouble. It's all related. I already believe in the Lions to win the division. You never doubt the Packers. You just never doubt them because they just been that good. And then from there, the Vikings who we thought would take a step back, especially without Kirk Cousins, that means that if they're going to win the division or even be a playoff team as you say, Jack, then that puts a lot of stock into O'Connell as well as head coach. That means that system is working because this is a whole renaissance for Sam Darnold, a guy that was done. But sometimes as we know, Cap, you go to a different address, all of a sudden things change. O'Connell is, by all accounts, an outstanding football coach. Yesterday, do you remember when Mike Tanamam was the GM of the Jets and they were on hard knocks? Yeah. They showed on social media yesterday, him, they would like to have the camera right there and he was, I don't know if I'd say heartless, but he was pretty direct. Yeah, we're going to have to let you go. So let's all have your paperwork. He was cutting Kevin O'Connell. That was who was in the office. Yeah, we had hoped for you to be the backup here and it didn't work out. Yeah. Put your paperwork outside. We're going to let you go. Good luck. Kick them out. And now look. It was Kevin O'Connell. Now look at it. We hired Kevin O'Connell. Guys, a stunt. Didn't you wouldn't have Hebrew flus? So some thoughts now from not a shot at Hebrew flus. It's like Kevin O'Connell talking about developing a young quarterback. Do you agree with Jack though? Jack hasn't went into division. I said I think they could. I still have the lions, but the Vikings are in play now. I didn't think that before the season. First take, Jack. Vikings are not winning the division. Hold on to that for your air check there, Jack. That's a good snippet to have right there, especially the Vikings win. They're not doing that. They're not winning the division. I don't think they will, but I think there's a chance. If things fall the right way for them, the defense looks really, really good. And they're doing this without Jordan Addison too. He's been hurt the past couple of weeks. That's the thing that frightened us before the season, because Albert Breer laid out this case about the Vikings, and we took like two steps back like, wait a minute. This holds me the Bears time. Right. Brother, if the Vikings are any good, look, everybody cannot be over 500. If the Vikings win the division, and Jordan Love isn't out for the year, like if he's back, we're talking about it, he could possibly play Sunday. The Bears are finishing dead last. Yeah. Yeah. That would suck. Yeah. So there's that. All right, Jack. What's next? Let's jump to the Steelers to an also farthest season. They have an 18 to 10 win versus Atlanta, a 13 to 6 win versus Denver. It's the same story with Justin Fields that we saw here. I need to see them win throwing the ball to believe in them under 160 passing yards in the past two games. You do know that Pittsburgh or Chicago is almost the same city. Feels like football wise, right? Feels like it. Because my kids lived there, so we spent a lot of time in Pittsburgh and I've done a ton of basketball games there. Pittsburgh's like a mini Chicago, but football wise, you're correct. Differences they make the playoffs every year. We could say better organization and better head coach too. They've got the leg up on it on the Chicago. He's the best. Yeah. If I've told you every single coach in the NFL was a free agent at the end of the year, you could have any of them. Who would you take? You'd be first. Tomlin. He'd be right there in the list. Andy Reid is like amazing. Maybe it'd be Andy Reid, it'd be Tomlin. Yeah. I mean, he'd come right through the door and tell you it all sucks and we'd do something about it. He would. That's right. Yeah. So he asked two and oh, no surprise this veteran observer of the Steelers scene. It's Mike Tomlin, after all. He's scaring them into victories. Scaring. He is cap. He doesn't mess around. You can't be surprised. Like, I know that every year we're here for the downfall of Mike Tomlin and not saying that they're going, look, he's looking for the playoffs. He's like a college football coach is looking for just needs six wins to get into the bowl game. So that's what he needs. He needs six. I was, I meant to tell you this. I was told a great story. I will not say who told me, but he said I could tell the story. Ronnie. Yeah. He said, I got to know Tomlin. I went to training camp just three or four years ago. He said, Tomlin goes, what are you doing tonight? And I'll be at the hotel. He's like, when I'm told my meetings, let's go to dinner and grab a few drinks. Okay. He said, we grab an Uber, we get to get to dinner, we walk across the street. There's a bar. Let's have a couple cocktails, let's talk. Some guys popping off in the bar at Tomlin and Tomlin's like that said I'm going to go beat his ass. The guy said, you're Mike Tomlin, it'll be all over the news. I don't care. He's not going to disrespect me like that. He's like, dude, I had to hold him back. Oh God. He said, Tomlin does not care. He will set his market and force it. So he is. So he is. Jack, give us another New Orleans Saints. They are two and all. And that surprised me. You probably have that one in the Super Bowl. No. I need to see their offense find a way to succeed that isn't through Alvin Camara. Camara has over a third of their yards. He's an eight-year running bag. He has an injury history. I've heard the Derek Carr for MVP early in the season narrative way too many times. He falls off every single time he starts hot. I need to see him continue it and I need to see them be able to find success with some of their other weapons. Jack, in the next three games, where will the Saints be? Because it's against the Eagles, at the Falcons, at the Chiefs. I'll go one and two in the next three, so I think they'll be three and two. It's way, way. The Saints are, they destroyed Dallas. They did. Give them credit, man. They were awesome. Who are their next three? Against the Eagles, home at the Falcons, at the Chiefs. They could lose all three of those. I think they pull one out against either the Eagles or the Falcons. I only throw that out because as you laid out, you want to see more than Alvin Camara, right? Well, this will tell a story. I think they'll still run the football against the Eagles. I think they're going to try and against that strong defensive front. They're going to try because that's been the formula so far. You want to see whether that Carr, by his arm, can he win a game? Is that what you're looking for? You want to see Carr be able to make plays? I want to see Carr be able to make the plan. I want to see Chris Olave more involved as well. They haven't been getting him the ball. Okay. This will tell a story. Two and oh, based on how many points that they've scored against the Panthers and the Cowboys, 47 and 44 respectively, is amazing in this NFL. But it is fair. Let's take a look at the... I just look at it as sample size and I beat the Chiefs narrow head, okay? That's not happening. But the other two games, the Eagles and Falcons, they'll tell a story. That will tell a great story about who they are. That will. Very early, but late, we won't be talking much about them. No. All right. What's next, Jack? Other two and oh team that surprised me was the Seahawks, but they've played Denver and New England so far, so I don't really know how much credit to give that. Those are two games they should win. They're next three games, the quarterbacks they're facing, Skyler Thompson in Miami, Jared Goff, so tough competition in Detroit, and then Daniel Jones. So they could very easily walk out of those games either five and oh and four and one. So I think the Seahawks have a good chance. But I want to get to the oh and two teams before we head out of this segment. The Ravens right now are a little bit concerning on the defensive side of the football. They're 19th in DVOA. Remember, they lost their defensive coordinator last year. They have Zack or new guy in charge of the defense. This season, they're allowing the third most yards per pass attempt in the NFL. Last year, they led the league in yards per pass attempt on defense. Something's going on with that defensive scheme. It'll be fine because they take on the Cowboys in Dallas. Yeah, Dallas better fill up. It they'll turn it around, but Baltimore, if you lose at Dallas, that'll be all because now you're looking at Owen three. Oh boy. So and then by the way, easy pickings to get the bills next after that at where that's going to be in Baltimore. And you know, that's just going to be a slug fest. Jay Moore will tell you, God, Josh Allen on the road, big spot. The Raven open, Owen four. It's tough. It's tough and he's NFL streets, you know. I do like that coach too, Harvoff. I mean, it's I'll tell a great story as is all the acclaim for the Raven saying, can they brush through, Jack, like, there's one thing that you know about the the Ravens and that you love Lamar Jackson because individually, he's a great talent, but you wonder about the rest of it in big spots in big games. I take nothing away from from the Chiefs game cap, because that's going to happen. It's the Chiefs, but that Raider loss, that sucks. That's a tough one. That is. That's a bad one. Any other Owen two teams? Yes. The Cincinnati Bengals, Owen two, the Bengals right now have less rushing yards per game than the Bears. Their running game has been terrible. I'm afraid that window is closing. Jamar Chase wants a contract to Higgins on his franchise tag. I'm concerned this might be the last we see of the contending Bengals for a little bit. With Burl, I think anything's possible, but for a little bit, I'm a little bit concerned. I'm telling you that the Bengals have had some locker room issues. They didn't get the Jamar Chase deal done. They haven't got Trey Hendricks and done, but that's one issue. And the other team you had mentioned earlier, the Falcons, they can beat the Chiefs. They got a lot of weapons, man. Jay Moore, let's play Hood's greatest hits. Let's go with number seven. Thank you very much on the top 10 of Hood's greatest hits. Cap, I don't think that the Bengals have the infrastructure to help out Joe Burl. I think that Joe Burl's great. I don't think the Bengals' organization's great. They're not going in the right direction. Well, I've said that for every week now, but I'm talking about the stuff in the locker room. I'm not talking about the infrastructure. I'm talking about that this guy's pissed off in there. Captain is part of the infrastructure. It's crumbling. Yeah. That's fair. It is fair. That's all I'm saying. When I say infrastructure, I'm talking about the organization, like I believe in Joe Burl. I believe in him. But the rest of it? I mean, we can always chalk it up to, well, the Bengals are always off to a slow start. I mean, it's not good when your star wide receiver buys a $50 million insurance policy and says I was misled by the organization. And then your deep lineman, who had what, 17 sacks last year? Yeah, I didn't get my extension done either. There was a time, Jack, I would have exclaimed, don't worry, they got the commanders coming up. And I would say now that's not an easy game, they just lost to the Patriots at home. That's the thing. That's what I would say is that that's not an easy game, but they do have the Panthers after that one and three, possibly about that, Jack. No turning it around and Cincinnati or Baltimore. Who has a better chance to turn it around? Baltimore, right? Baltimore, I would say. If I, if between the two, I'd say it bolts more. I would agree. I think that defense gets right. And then the Bengals are on the fire and Zack Taylor, who's a good coach, and a blame it on him. And he'll be out and they'll be right back to, as Sylvie calls it, the cycle of, what is he called, the circle of suck? Circle of suck. Hey, man, everybody can't have a Marver Lewis contract. Wow. Can't be in there for 20, 27 years and do nothing. That brother was on the sideline over the Raiders. Did you see him over the weekend? No. I could have a special assistant coach. Very good. I think it was the Raiders. I saw him over on, on the Red Zone. I think I saw him there. All right. You know what's coming up next? I do. Deal. Breakers. Love it.