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We'll talk baseball with Jesse Rogers coming up at 750, but first, Captain, there's been so many opinions out there locally and nationally about the Chicago Bears. That happens when you have the number one pick in Caleb Williams and also you're on a platform like Sunday Night Football so everyone can get a chance to take a look at this new Look Chicago Bears team. And there's been a lot of different opinions out there from whether or not Caleb Williams is the guy and the offensive line stinks for the Bears and Ryan Polls is responsible for the loss or that yesterday as well as Eva Flus is over his head and Shane Waldron has no clue what to do with this group of offensive players. There's been a lot of opinions out there, but no stronger than Bill Belichick. Long time head coach in the National Football League, some say on the best coaches because of the amount of rings that you won with Tom Brady and that Patriots team, there's been a lot of strong opinions about this Bears team after one loss. - There's been a ton of opinion and you're right. You could go from what is Waldron doing? The plate calling's horrible to the offensive lines, the worst I've ever seen. As you said, I'll pair it all of it with you. The bottom line is that they had a chance to win against a quality Super Bowl contending type team on the road. That's a really good Houston team. Now you got a bunch of breaks. Houston's not gonna get 12 penalties for a hundred and whatever yards every week, they're not. But the defense in the second half was spectacular. They held them to three points. The ball is in your offensive hands. If you get a touchdown, a kick an extra point, you're gonna win and they didn't get it done. For whatever reason, sacks, pressures, misfires, inability to run the football. But this is a team I'm still buying stock in. Some of that stuff can get cleaned up, can get fixed. There is, as I said to you yesterday, there's no offensive line tree where you go, hey, I need a new center. Can you give me one? I don't know, about 290 pounds, real mobile and incredibly strong and angry. They're not out there. There might be a few guys on the fringes out there. David Bakhtiari still wants to play guys like that, but nobody else could have come in and give you an all-pro play. So we'll see. But I still believe in Caleb Williams, stronger than I ever have and I still believe this is a good football team. They just got some stuff they gotta clean up. A lot of this is something that has to happen in-house with the Chicago Bears. It's what Matti Reffloos told us yesterday. We get a chance to talk to Matti Reffloos after every Bears game here on cap and J-hood. He says a lot of this stuff has to happen in-house where you have to have the development in-house instead of always looking from the outside. He believes in the players that he has in-house hall, inside the locker room. Great. We also know this for a fact. Every general manager, whether it's a poor general manager or someone that has won multiple Super Bowl championships, whoever is a general manager in this league. In the off-season cap, you can't fill everything. You can't address everything. You can try, but you can't address everything. What is impressive to you and I about Ryan Polls is the amount of talent that he put on the roster in the off-season to try to get ready for a playoff push or definitely more than seven wins. In that way, if for Ryan Polls, for him to continue to try to improve the roster, you do worry about the offensive line. The secondary and the defensive line and the linebackers are exactly what many people can work with. This could be a top five defense, it could. The other side, you got your wide receivers. You got more than enough to be able to get down the field and score touchdowns from DJ Moore to a Dunes A to Kean Allen to Cole Committed tight end. You have enough there. But the weakest unit is the offensive line. But it seems like we've been talking about this for years, though. Don't tell me that the Chicago Bears will fall short of their goals because Ryan Polls cannot add the right ingredients to the offensive line. That would stink. You got everything else that you need, including, I believe, at some point, a potent running game. And your offensive line's this. You can't have the same storyline for the last five, six years and think that you could win a Super Bowl or playoff games with this. So is that not fair? You got really fair. You can do everything you can in the off season, but the offensive line, if you have no protection for Caleb Williams, you're not going anywhere, correct. But if you go back in history when the Bears were really, really dominant, I mean, really dominant in the '80s, the late Jim thinks, go back and look at his drafts, '76, '77, '78, '79. They weren't sexy. Chicago selects Dan Hampton, defensive lineman, Arkansas. Who? Chicago selects Dennis Lick, Ted Albrecht, Jimbo Cauvert, Mark Bortz, Tom Thayer, Keith Van Horn, Jay Hylgenberg. They just kept adding and adding and adding until you went, oh my god, look at that offensive, a defensive line. And then they won the Super Bowl, and we wonder why? Because they kept throwing resources at it. You cannot-- you ever been to Carmax? I have. OK? You can't walk into Carmax if they're an advertiser. I apologize. With $8,500 in your budget and go, yeah, I need a car. I got $8,500. Give you that one right there, that Buick Regal. That Oldsmobile Cutlass from 2015. There you go. And then think you're going to be at the valet, and everyone's a big. Wow. Who's coming out for that car? Wow, look at that. The blonde on your arm, and you get in the old cutlass? Yeah. That isn't what's going to happen. You can't get the old cutlass and then enter it in the $500 and go, wow, why are we getting left? That's what Coleman's shutting is. He's an old cutlass. He'll get you to the mall. You can get to the Aldi, get your groceries, or the Jewel. You want a Lamborghini, like Creed Humphrey, Jason Kelsey? I can keep going. Those cost $16 million a year, not one year for three. Creed Humphrey just got $70 million. So when you shop at Carmax with an $8,500 budget, that's what's going to happen. So we can scream about Coleman's Shelton the All We Want. I watched the tape last night again yesterday late afternoon. You go watch some of the plays where he's just getting driven back because he's not strong enough. Don't be mad at him. Be mad at the decision-making that put a mediocre player in that spot. So speaking of that, Bill Belichick was talking about Ryan Polls and his style of roster construction. We mentioned that we laid out cap just moments ago, a defensive line that's getting after the quarterback. We're talking about a secondary and linebackers that we really like. A wide receiver room, a good running back room. But what about the offensive line? Well, I think this is really an issue for Chicago just in terms of the overall team construction, the way they decided to do it. You look at a team like Detroit in their division. And Detroit's got three really good linemen with Sewell, Rag Now and Decker. And those guys give generally golf a lot of protection. The Bears have really put their resources into a lot of money, a lot of drive choices into receivers. But they've had problems on their offensive line. And it doesn't really look like that's gotten much better whether Demico brings it or doesn't bring it. They had trouble with a four-man rush, a five-man rush, and just single blocks up there have been a problem for them. So I like the receivers. I think the quarterback's got a chance, but it's tough. And I think it's going to get tougher. AJ, as you know, better than I, Chicago in November and December is that's a fun place to have to rely on throwing the ball. So a combination of, let's say, struggle, run a game, and then having to throw a lot and pass protect a lot. I don't think that's really playing into the strength of-- that's not a strength of the Bears team. So I'm not really sure how they're putting that together, but to chuck it 50 times in Chicago on a long-term basis, just being tough. Bill Belichick on with Pat McAfee and AJ Hawke. So what he's pretty much saying there in that sound bite on that McAfee show is that he questions Ryan Paul's roster construction. Of course, he would say that, Cap, because he would always go to the bottom shelf and find any wide receiver for Tom Ray to work with. He didn't value the wide receiver, like most teams do in the National Football League. Now, to Bill's credit, he always trying to get a good left guard and a left tackle. He was always good to try to build the defensive line, offensive line. He understood that. And then he said, OK, I got a great quarterback. So whoever you want to throw to football to is fine. Now, we think that that's wrong. But again, they got seven-- was six Super Bowl championships from it. Correct. OK, so he could say that. But what he's saying is that it's great that we have more in a Dunes A and Allen, but he did not-- not enough for the offensive line. You agree with that? I do. I do. But if you, in the draft, had left Roman Dunes A on the board and taken a tackle, people in this tower want to go nuts. What? Now, I understand the selection of O'Dunes. I like it. He's a hell of a football player. Because you're probably not going to re-sign Keenan Allen after this season. I would be-- unless he takes a team-friendly, shorter term deal, you're paying that dude what? 23 and 1/2 million this year? He's not coming back here for $2 million a year. He wants to get paid one more time. He's in his early 30s. So unless all of a sudden his heel gets better, and he becomes an all pro like, oh my god, we have to have him, he's probably not going to be here. So you needed to take a guy who could be another number one. So you have DJ Moore and Roma Dunes A. That's why you got to hit on the Tyler Scott pick. Or DeAndre Carter has to be better than we thought. Or you got to find a guy when you've got two number twos next year. But you have got to commit more resources next year to your offensive line, whether that's in free agency, or more likely, drafting a center and a guard. Like getting-- I'm talking top shelf talent. That's how you win Super Bowls. So to Belichick's point, and he gives you the old school, well, it's going to be December and January. You've got to be able to run the football. You can't put the ball in the air 50 times a game when it's cold temperatures. He's right. I mean, you can put the ball in the air, yes. But also, you have to have a line that can help you run the football. And by the way, many of us agrees with us because he was on our show yesterday talking about this, how it's paramount to run the football, how it's a must. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. The numbers that we're used to, we've had big numbers here, run the football. And it's important that this is the 2024 Bears. And this identity for us is going to be unique and different than the other teams. But we've got to make sure that we establish the run game. That's the paramount. And that's in any football team is going to say that. But we've got to get that done because you're exactly right. When you say that, that's going to be something that we can lean on as a football team to be able to run the ball. I've always said, hey, you run the ball to win the game. You pass the score points, but you've got to run the ball at some point early in the game. Dominate the front, right, and then late in the game to win it. Yeah, he was fired up. He was. You could hear the right in that answer cap. Yeah, he was like, you know that that was something in the meetings on Monday. You know it was because he goes like, yeah, you know, it's good that we could pass the football, but we've got to be able to establish the run. He said he said it right there. Like you could tell that that was something he talked to Shane Waldron about. Remember what Waldron came from? They ran a football sum in Seattle. But Gino was able to make his his hey by throwing the football in Seattle. I mean, it was a good offense that Waldron put together for for resurrecting the career of Gino Smith. But cap, there has to be a balance here. And the way I set up the question to Iberflus was to make the offensive line and the young quarterback comfortable to be able to run the football. Correct. Yeah. You have to be able to run the ball downhill in between the tackles a lot. And you've got to stay loyal to it. This thought of, now that we got Caleb, we can throw the ball 54 times a game. No, that is not accurate. That is not the way to win. Like if you go back to the 2022 Seattle Seahawks, they were a nine win football team. And I think that was Gino's first year there. Believe so. Maybe a second. And you go back their first game of the year, they beat the Denver Broncos, they threw 23 passes. The next week, they threw 24 passes. The next week, they threw 32, 23, 44, 30, 25, 31, 27. My point is they're not dropping back 48 times a game. No, they're running the football. So here's a tough question. Let's be the first to ask it. And shameless in the phone lines this morning, 3-1-2-3-2-E-S-P-N-3-2-3-7-7-6 is our phone number. As much as we think that the wide receiver room shines, based on the roster composition of having more Adunze Allen Tyler Scott DeAndre Carter in the same room, the question we have for you is with the benefit of hindsight, should Ryan Polls have drafted a lineman, an offensive lineman instead of Roma Deunze. Let's talk about that. You know, you already had Allen before even the draft cap, Allen's there, Moore's there, Tyler Scott's already in the system, DeAndre Carter wanted to find out who he is. But with the benefit of hindsight, should a Polls should have drafted an offensive lineman to help this offensive line and to help Caleb Williams instead of Roma Deunze? We're talking about it on the home of the Bears, ESPN-1000. It's a bad take. [MUSIC PLAYING] Captain Jay Hood on bat. Oh, Captain Jay Hood is a big fan, man. [MUSIC PLAYING] Bop, bop, bop, bop. Watch out, fellow. All Chicago's home for sports, ESPN-Chicago. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. You know, the numbers that we're used to, we've had big numbers here, run on the football. And it's important that, you know, this is the 2024 pairs. And this identity for us is going to be unique and different than the other teams. But we've got to make sure that we establish the run game. You know, that's the paramount. And that's in any football team is going to say that, but we've got to get that done. Because you're exactly right when you say that that's going to be something that we can lean on as a football team to be able to run the ball. I've always said, hey, you run the ball to win the game, right? You pass the scoring points, but you've got to run the ball at some point, right? Early in the game, dominate the front, right? And then late in the game to win it. That is exactly right. Matt Iber Flus with us after every Bears game right here on cap and J-hood. Hope that you're going to have a great Tuesday. Still to come, we'll talk baseball with Jesse Rogers at 750, Albert Breyer at 835. If you're just joining us, we're talking about the Bears as far as the comments from Bill Belichick on the Pat McAfee show talking about how he likes the quarterback. It's hard about Caleb Williams, how he likes the wide receivers, but thinks that the infrastructure in the offensive line is not good enough for the Chicago Bears. And he's right. Here's the thing, Cap. I like the development of Darnell Wright and Kevin Jenkins. And I think that Braxton Jones has been fine at left tackle. Ryan Paul is like Braxton Jones. I think we like him as well. Don't love him, but he's fine at left tackle. But as far as Nate Davis at Wright Guard and Coleman Shelton at center, it matters that they're able to protect and help out this offense. I mean, I know that that becomes somewhat nuts and bolts when it comes to football, because people are looking at the fly of the ball. People are looking at the running game, looking at the defense. But that matters. The protection of a young quarterback matters. Running the football on this team matters. I love the ball in the air like anybody else, but also the meat and potatoes matters for the Chicago Bears. Yes, your foundation. You have to have a strong foundation. You're talked about it a billion times. So is Waddle. If you can't protect your kid up there, like I was watching some Daniel Jeremiah stuff that he put out from NFL Network. And he said, I'm still all in on Caleb. And he showed a throw that was this close to being a completion deep down the field on the right sideline. He said, watch the center get pushed right into his lap. Literally, he's got his own center in his lap as he's trying to step into a throw. Just missed going down the field. There were seven offensive linemen taken after we took Roma Dunesay. Who are they? They were on the board because J.C. Latham went seven to Tennessee. Joe Alt went five to the Los Angeles Chargers. That's the guy the Bears loved. Now, if he had been there, would they have taken him? Probably, but they like the Dunesay a lot. And so do I. This is not anything about Rome. But if you look at the Bears at nine take O'Dunesay, Fashanu from Penn State, who's a high school teammate of Caleb Williams, he went 11 to the New York Jets. And then you've got Fuaga from Oregon State, offensive tackle to the Saints. Then you have Amarius Mims, your guy from Georgia. He went to the Bengals at 18. Troy Fattano out of Washington. He went to the Steelers at 20. There's a Steelers, keep adding to their O line. Keep throwing resources at it. Then Jordan Morgan to the Packers. They didn't go get a receiver for Jordan Love. They've got good receivers. They don't have top 10 picks at receiver. They went and added another offensive lineman kid out of Arizona. One pick later. Tampa Bay took the number one center in the draft. Graham Barton from Duke. Six, five, three, 14. Oh, by the way, he's starting for the Buccaneers. And he looks to be a really good player. And then you had Tyler Geithin, who the Bears hosted on a visit. The same weekend Caleb was here from Oklahoma, who's a monster, six, seven, three, whatever from Oklahoma. He went to the Cowboys. They just keep adding resources upfront. - When you're a general manager though, Cap, you have to pick your poison. - Yeah. - And here's the choices. Tell me if I'm wrong. Tell me if I'm wrong. You had to get Roma Dunes on this football team. Because if you're gonna have Kim Allen also on the team, you know that he's only gonna be here for a song. More than likely just for a year. - Oh, great. That's a replacement for Kim Allen long-term. - Agreed. - That's why you did that. But again, at the same time, you pick your poison. You feel like we need Kim Allen for seasoning in the locker room. Okay, great. Because also you know the Kim Allen is not gonna give you 17 games. He's just not. We already see he's already out. - Agreed. - Okay, so Dunes is the future of the football team, along with DJ Moore. All right, having done that, you still did not address the offensive line. - That's good. I don't mind them having a Dunes on the football team. If I'm answering the question, with the benefit of hindsight, should polls have drafted alignments at a Rome? Look, Rome of Dunes, they will pay dividends. I would think quicker than an offensive lineman that's learning on the job. I think that with an offensive lineman, unless that guy's all pro in year one, I don't expect him to just set the world on fire. He's one of five. A Dunes, they could be one of one. - Right. He could be a star. - Could be. - I get it. Great kid, they love him in the room. He's a really good player. He played through injury this week and played just about every snap. 100%. But that all said, we don't have enough assets on the offensive line. - Don't. - We can run through it again. Darnell, right? He hasn't proven it yet, but he was a top 10 pick. You threw assets there, okay? Nate Davis, that's a miss. $10 million a year, sounds like a lot of money. That is not one of the more highly paid guards in the league. That's middle money in the national football league for a guard. But he looks like he was a missive val so far. You're center, you get what you freakin' pay for. One year for 3 million, you're not getting a star there. I'm just, again, we can rage for enemies. I hate this cold and shelter. I said, what are you mad at him for? He's out there competing. He's trying. He just isn't that good. - Yeah, you have a problem. - You mad at Ryan Polls, that was his selection. - Be mad at the decision to put him there, not at the guy. The guy's trying. The guy saw a guy that wasn't playing hard or doesn't want to play like Nate Davis. That makes me more angry. Coleman Shelton's competing. He does not very good. Kevin Jenkins, he had a bad game, man. He did. He's talented. My payin' that dude all the money he wants, probably not. And my left tackle is a fifth round kid who, he's a little light in the ass. I've heard York talk about this. - Yeah. - He does not have enough heft to him to be able to handle Will Anderson or Jeffrey Simmons or whoever it is lining up over him to Neil Hunter. - So-- - He's an underachiever. - He is? - Or is he achieving at the level of fifth round pick is gonna achieve from Southern Utah? - I just think that he's starting as a fifth round pick because Paul's like the underachiever dogged him. That it's scrappy, but it's not, it's not all pro. - Yeah, I don't know if I would use the word underachiever, it's, he's underrated. He's a fifth round kid. I get your point. And that is not Penaisool on the right side who's the best right tacklein' football. Taylor Decker, Frank Ragna. That's what Detroit did. They left receivers on the board. The Bengals said we gotta have Jamar Chase. Why is our offensive line gettin' Joe Burl killed? Because you left Penaisool sittin' on the board when you could have had him. - All right, let's go to the phone lines to talk to you. 3-1-2-3-2-3-2-3-7-7-6 is our telephone number, Josh and Mantino on cap and J-hood. Josh, good morning. - Hey, good morning guys. Yeah, you know, I think Paul's made the right decision. I'm gonna at least trust it for now. He took who he thought was the best player. Maybe he felt like a guy like Rome wouldn't be there next year. And the line, you know, that he could address that in the future. I mean, they knew they couldn't address it all in one year. So I am gonna trust that he did the best that he felt he could do at the time and got him as close as they could. - Okay, we gotta let you go, man. The alarm is sounding off in your car. - Yes. - But, Josh. - That sounds good. - So he says he, so we understand your point. Preach your telephone calls. We go to Boston, Massachusetts. Listing on the ESPN Chicago app, here's Adam on cap and J-hood. Adam, good morning. - Good morning, guys. - What's up, buddy? - It feels like déjà vu all over again. Whether it's Mitch or it's Justin or it's Caleb, all with that offensive line. None of them had a good offensive line. And then the offensive line's terrible. The quarterback flipped that game. So, but they didn't do any RPO. They didn't do any play action. They didn't do any design roll out. And so now they're just gonna start drawing all that up for Caleb. Is that the answer? I mean, did you see a single RPO play against the Texans? - Did not. - So that was, like, why don't they just start doing that? 'Cause they can't get new offensive lines, 'cause the lines terrible. - Well, you're gonna have to do a lot. First of all, I gotta get the ball out quickly. There's going to have to be the ability for Caleb Williams to roam around the pocket so he doesn't get killed and to try to be able to go down the field to try to make plays. He's gonna have to get out of the pocket. Like, I know that there's a lot of times, Cap, we're watching him, he's in the pocket. He's trying to make plays. And he either runs with the football. We saw him throw it away a couple times, which I think is pretty smart for a young quarterback. But right now, it is true, Adam, that what we're seeing is a lot of bears Mondays that we've been through before. And that is a quarterback that's trying to make plays and he has no time to do it because the offensive line is a jailbreak. It's a jailbreak against him. - Yeah. - So last night, I watched the Monday night game. Well, is it dinner? Go back and put on, you can find it on YouTube or on Twitter or wherever. Chris Lindstrom, the center for the Atlanta Falcons. He beat the hell out of Jalen Carter. Jalen Carter is a stud. You know him better than anyone because you're a Georgia fan. - Yep. - He's a great, great football player. He had a couple pressures. You go watch Chris Lindstrom, win after win, after win, after win, neutralizing this mammoth man in the middle. And guess where he went? Chris Lindstrom was the 14th pick overall for a center. - Yeah. - So we were like, what are they doing? Taking a center that high? - Yeah. And now he drafted in 2019. He's in the prime of his career, 27 years old. And he's a stud. That's where those guys are. - More of your phone calls coming up. 3, 1, 2, 3, 3, 2, 3, 7, 7, 6 are our phone number. Did you hear what Kevin Jenkins had to say about the game on Sunday? - Uh-oh. - Wait till you hear this next. And what your phone calls is we talk about the Bears. On the home of the Bears, the ESPN 1,000. - And checkmate 1-6, land here, suppression on target. - That's why I see him in my shot. - Shot. - Or no shot. - With Captain Jeehood on ESPN 1,000 and ESPN Chicago app. - That's why I see him in my shot. - Good morning and welcome in to the Captain Jeehood Morning Show on ESPN 1,000. And we're streaming on the ESPN Chicago app with David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you. From any of you we have Albert Breyer scheduled to join us at 835, a special Tommy Tuesday. Tom Watto will be with us at 918. But first, shot of no shot, here. - Shay Norton, Shay. - Good morning boys on a Tuesday. How we feeling? - Awesome, good. Great to be with the three of you as always. Little radio family here. Yeah, good. - Yeah, feeling really good. The Monday night football game that I know that we will address definitely and around the NFL. That was interesting with the Eagles and Falcons. It's been compelling. We've been waiting for the NFL all this time and there's so many storylines around the league. - Yeah, we will address that game and around the NFL. - I cannot wait. I'm not trying to get past shot or no shot, but I can't wait to see here what you have cooking around the NFL coming up. - I'm gonna hit somebody with a sledgehammer in about 16 minutes. Somebody's taking a sledgehammer right off the dome. - Wow, Gallagher style. - I can't wait to hear this. No watermelon involved. Here's Shay Norlin. - All right, let's get started with shot or no shot. There's kind of a bizarre storyline coming out from the Sunday night game Bears and Texans at Chris Collinsworth on the broadcast questioning the body language of one DJ more. And since then yesterday, I saw on social media, Bears Twitter people everywhere grabbing screenshots of Keenan Allen trying to be a leader, coach up Caleb Williams on the sideline. Well, DJ Moore looks like he's pouting or maybe uninvolved in those conversations just staring off into space. Shot or no shot. The DJ Moore body language conversation is totally overblown. - It's again, it takes a great pressure. Well done. Monday, Beth Schunder for Moore in complete. (dramatic music) We're gonna force down, bring out the field goal unit. And I know what DJ Moore is thinking. He goes, look, I squeeze that quarter to the middle of the field. I left you five yards on the boundary out there. There was a lot of room for that back shoulder, just not enough time on task yet between those two. That was an opportunity. - Damn. It's way overblown. DJ Moore and a Caleb are super tight. They have a great relationship. This is more play design, blocking scheme, the O line under achieving. Let's get back to work, man. That's it. - Yeah, I don't know if it's overblown. It's blown. I don't know if it's overblown. And here's why. DJ Moore is no different than a lot of high level wide receivers that feel like they should always get the ball and really pay dividends for the team. There's frustration there, of course. Not necessarily from the Tennessee game, but in that scenario, he's thinking, man, I had an opportunity to really help the team there and I didn't get the football. So does that mean a rift? No, between DJ Moore and Caleb Williams, but just like anybody else that is, plays with a ruthless aggression cap, you want to be able to make plays. You want to be able to help. In that scenario, Caleb couldn't get in the ball. So of course, he's pissed off about it. Of course, because that's what a warrior does. It's not just DJ Moore. It's a lot of guys at his position do the same thing like, man, I'm here, man. Just give me the ball. Let me help you. Let me help you help the football team. That's all. Doesn't mean that that's angry or rift. Is this like, oh, missed opportunity. Correct. It's not like they're having these major issues, but I can tell you that the players want more from Shane Waldron. They do. Shay? All right, Kevin Jenkins was asked about the breakdowns and protection this season so far on the offensive line. He answered in a kind of vague and concerning way. Listen to this. To my knowledge, I know a job. I mean, we get the call. We hear a call at the front and we execute to where we're getting coached to do. I mean, a lot of things happen, but like pressures and stuff. So we don't control so much. Here's Kevin Jenkins. We execute on what we're being coached to do. Shot or no shot, Kevin Jenkins is blaming Shane Waldron. That's a shot. In a certain way, that's a shot. And by the way, as we just went through the exercise last half hour cap, I'm not mentioning, even mentioning Shane Waldron or my offensive line coach, it's on me. It's on me to be able to help the young quarterback. That's all. Even if you know that Shane Waldron and the offensive line coach are not putting us in the best positions to win. If that's how you feel, it would never come to the press. I wouldn't do it. It's not worth it. Yeah, we talked about it in the last half hour, how he should have answered that, and he didn't. So you could take it however you want. I think they're feeling it from all sides. And so that way, man, we're running at calls. They're telling us to execute. He should have handled it in a more mature way. That's what I'll say. You're like this in six weeks, and you're still five blocks of silly putty and can't seem to help the quarterback get the ball out of as quickly as possible. If you're not opening up holes for the running game, that's on you. You say it's on coaching, but to me, cap it's everything. It's everything. It's by the execution. It's also about the coaching staff. From a defensive standpoint yesterday, what do you talk to? He said about the execution. He's talking about the players. OK. It's a push and pull on all of it. When you lose, when you underachieve, it's all of it. It's not the coaches. Those players, we laid out a plan and they didn't execute. OK, well, now this is where adjustments come in also of saying, OK, if this didn't work, let's do this. But whatever it is, we got to get the positive results of all of it. They're going to have to get this fixed and quickly. Now, they may get a break. The Forrest Buckner is not expected to be able to play on Sunday with his ankle issue. They may be without the kid Latu from UCLA. I mean, if they don't have those two defensive linemen, that is a massive advantage for the Chicago Bears. That is like the football gods once again going. As what did Wattle say? It's like a rich kid getting gifts on Christmas. There's a lot of them. Here you go. We're going to take two of their best defensive players out on the D line. Shane Orley. Well, actually, I want to ask about that, because as bad as things feel right now with the Bears' offense looking inept, we should keep in mind they played against two elite defensive fronts to start the season and are getting the benefit of a little lucky timing, the next two games, with the Colts likely down to Forrest Buckner and potentially down by Attula to his cap, just told you this Sunday, the following game against the Rams, they will not have Pukonakua or Cooper Cup. Both players expected to miss significant time. Both players IR candidates per Sean McVeigh, also that entire offensive line is in flux. So the Bears are getting the Colts and the Rams potentially at the best possible time to get them all year. Shot or no shot. The Bears will be three in one in two weeks. That's a shot. That's a shot. They are getting two teams that are banged up, and that's a desperate Colts team. They're 0 and 2. We know the percentages of teams at 0 and 2 are slim that make the playoffs. Yes. 0 and 3, it's unheard of how slim it is. And the Rams are going to come in here. They had to sign three offensive linemen last week. Like they're, we think our old lines in trouble, they just lost 41 to 10 of the Cardinals. They're getting destroyed. But cap, what are we going to do about it? That, I mean, their storyline is what their storyline is, but what are we going to do about it? Correct. By defensively, I think that you and I are on the same page, for sure. The defense will get turnovers. They'll get pressures. Hopefully, they'll get home and get sacks. But what about the flip side? See, yes, we talked a lot about the offensive line because that is a big storyline. Seems like every year with the Bears. But then what is Caleb Williams going to do about it? Between the flashy plays, what else is going to do about it? Or is he going to overshoot receivers moving forward? Because that's expected. It's what we talked about in June. A rookie quarterback is not going to be perfect. A rookie quarterback is going to make his share of mistakes and turnovers. You're correct. I sucked that he threw interceptions on Sunday. Because I know that that's not him. It is you in the National Football League because the timing of the clock in your head goes off very quickly in the NFL versus college. So it is a given. Cold tap problems on the offensive line. They're on to, they're desperate to have a victory at home. Yeah, their D line is the one that should be an advantage for Chicago. OK. But I guess, again, the question still stands like, with the Colts and the Rams are just laid out, Shay, what are the Bears going to do about it offensively? My hope is, is that starting on Sunday, then everything clicks offensively, even with the offensive line problems, that they can be able to score and not have so many problems scoring the freaking football. If Buckner and Latoo don't go on Sunday and you can't run the ball, we've got big problems. The Colts, even with Buckner and Latoo, can't defend the run. So if they're not on the field and you can't run on them, and next Monday is not going to be fun. All said, if you do run the ball and you win the game, then you get the Rams, and I'm going to say something, hoodie. If the Rams don't have Cup and Nakua and they won't, both guys going to miss significant time per the head coach Sean McVay. If their offensive line is in flux and they're struggling to run the football, and you've got giveaway-prone Matthew Stafford as the quarterback with no help, Bears could pitch a shot out in that game. They could, but one of the Bears is going to do on the other side. Well, zero, zero is a tie. Well, you know what I'm saying, right? The old Dominic McNabb said they're like, I don't know how to feel after a tie. But that's the big question. Yeah, so the Colts and the Rams have their issues. Well, some of the Bears offensively. Correct. So what are you going to do about it? You can win those games are winnable. You can win those games, what, six, three? Nine, three, like-- You better figure offensive issues out. So, Shea, I think it's a shot, by the way, to answer your question. I think it's a shot that they go three and one. I just want you to know what the offense is going to do. I know the defense will do their job. What's the offense going to do? But I'll ride with you that those are winnable games. Because I think that that's what I had to start the season. When we did our win loss predictions cap, I think I had the next two games as wins. In this 9/8 season, I think the Bears are going to have. I hope you're right. Shea. Well, if they are three and one, guess who they get the following week? The Carolina Panthers. Bryce Young yesterday benched just two games into his second season. The Panthers have elected to go with quarterback Andy Dalton after Bryce put out his two worst performances of his young career despite having a top five graded offensive line. Week two, Bryce Young was the least pressured quarterback in all of football, and he was terrible. His career might be over. Just two games into his second season. You're in his right cap. I am. Shot or no shot? Have I said anything wrong, cap? Go ahead, finish it. Shot or no shot. Insane thoughts. If Caleb Williams is even serviceable as a quarterback, this is the most lopsided trade in NFL history. No shot because the Herschel Walker trade led to two Super Bowl championships. That's correct. We can-- and again, let me be clear. I love that Ryan Polls is our GM. I think if you add up all his moves, he's done so much good to get the culture fixed up there, the roster, all of it. But he isn't perfect either. No GM is. And until we win-- I mean, we mean in Bears Nation-- until they win and win big. Can't call this the best trade in NFL history. Are you out of your mind? The Herschel Walker trade they won two Super Bowls was the foundation of a bunch of Hall of Famers. You can tell me all you want, what we got from Carolina. We haven't done anything with it yet. Nothing. It's all on paper. Got to execute. Polls says everything is at the offensive line in the winning. Otherwise, it's fine. I mean, it's just-- it's a fact. If two years from now, we're still going-- I don't know about this-- Caleb Williams guy. We got to figure this thing out. Then is it really that great a trade? Darnell Wright has to hit. It's got to be a Pro Bowl right tackle, he went 10th. So Shane, just as we get right for around the NFL, just lay it out again for those listening. The first overall pick, Bryce Young goes to the Panthers, and the Bears get DJ Moore, ninth overall pick in 2023, traded to the Eagles and the Bears. And you got Darnell right out of that. 2023 second round pick, traded to become Tyreke Stevenson. 2024 first round pick became Caleb Williams. And again, the 2025 second round pick. And the pick that you traded, number nine, you got Darnell Wright at 10. You also got a fourth round pick that turned into Tori Taylor, I believe. I believe that's the end result of getting Tori Taylor, yeah. So you got a ton back. But, Shane, if you don't win, then the trade is overrated. You got to win. Even when Bryce Young struggles, and I'm never going to give up on Young Talent, I'm just saying, like, once again, you started Bryce Young, you didn't have to do that, you could have tanked again and started with any Dalton with the team last year as a backup. Yes. Also, OK, so that's what you would have went to it. And you would have been OK. But I would have got a high draft pick out of it, because I know with any Dalton, you're going to win four or five games, maybe Max. And here's the other thing. Who was-- see if you remember this. Shane, don't answer this. Hoodie, my partner. Who was the quarterback in Carolina two years ago to finish the season? And they let him go. It was probably the middle of the season. Sorry. You were not supposed to answer. I know you said don't answer, but sorry. Hoodie, I answered. I had to, as my guy, he just jumped out of my throat. I couldn't stop it. Baker Mayfield was there, and they let him go. And he ended up finishing the season with the Rams. And all of a sudden, Tampa signed him, and people laughed. Go back and read the articles. What a joke. Tampa has Baker Mayfield. Oh, they beat the Eagles in the playoffs? They re-signed him for a bunch of money, and he looks really good. And he just won it Detroit? Yeah. So do you remember the story last year? I think we talked about our last offseason. David Tepper walked into the restaurant, took the host's hat off, was a costing, and because there was a sell-to-team sign? Yeah, I remember that. Yesterday, there was a sign at that same restaurant. Said Mayfield, 2-0. Darnold, 2-0, Bryce 0-2. Man. Around the NFL is coming up next. It's going to be a banger. Don't forget Albert Breer as well. Coming up in our next half hour. Captain Jay Hood on ESPN 1000, and also on our YouTube channel. [MUSIC PLAYING] Follow Chicago's home for sports on Twitch at ESPN 1000 Chicago. Captain Jay Hood are back on Chicago's home for sports. ESPN Chicago. It both sucks. These sucks. I'm just a fan. I'm not a football about here. I love the Green Bay Packers. The guy is front, but there he goes. This is not Detroit, man. This is the Super Bowl. I love winners. He starts to come at any moment. This is a really thickly built guy. I mean, what's the answer you're looking for on these things here? [MUSIC PLAYING] It's time to go around the NFL right here on Captain Jay Hood. Albert Breer with us at 8.35, around the NFL. Here's Shane Warley, Shane. All right, it's Tuesday. So today is the Don't Be Surprised If edition of Around the NFL. Uh-oh, this is going to be good. We're going to start with Monday Night Football. So don't be surprised if-- Nick Sirianni doesn't make it to Thanksgiving. Last season ended in utter disaster, everyone knows, I don't need to revisit how last season ended for the Eagles. Yesterday, I thought he made multiple fireable decisions that directly led to a loss to the Falcons in prime time. And it started-- everybody's talking about throwing the ball to say Quam Barclay, which was dumb. You should run the clock. But it started for me in the first quarter when Nick Sirianni apparently embraced analytics, which he refused to do for the remainder of the game, and went for it on fourth down in a 0-0 game at the goal line early. Then compounds that by kicking a field goal on fourth down in the final drive to go up 6. Newsflash to Sirianni. If you take your three points early in the game, the field goal you kick at the end ends the game. But because you didn't take it, you only have a 6-point lead, and Kirk Cousins walks your bad defense down the field and ends it. I mean, Quam. Che and I have different ways of how the Eagles should have won that game. Obviously, the Barkley inability to catch the football stood out a lot. But at the end of the game, if I'm the Eagles, I'm kneeling on the football several times. If the Falcons have a time out, then it takes, I don't know, 30 seconds for the Falcons to be able to go down the field and score. But I'm taking the air out of the football. Like, no, if you're going to beat me, you've got to throw like two Hail Marys, a 40 and a 30 to get in a field goal position. I'm kneeling on the football in that spot at the end in the fourth quarter. But-- and I don't disagree with you, but-- give me your opinion on this. You'd pay 27 million, I think it was, for Saequan Barkley. Maybe more. He was the most coveted running back on the market. He's a hell of a talent. You hit him in the hands. He catches the football, the game's over. Yeah, he's going to make the play. I understand. Imagine him being a bear. Bears were in there. Now, you understand, like, imagine if that's a bear, that spot, and he misses the ball. Oh, man. He's got more drops over the last season in the start of this than any running back in the game. 16 drops. Yeah, so do me a favor. Put the ball directly in his hands via a handoff. A handoff? It makes no sense to throw him the ball there. And that said, like, I bring up the first quarter and going for it, I'm fourth down in a nothing-nothing game. For whatever reason, I still don't understand. I would have taken the three points. If you're going to go for it there, you should go for it, I'm fourth down at the end of the game. And end the game, because you didn't take three early, I don't think you can take three late. You're not going up a full touchdown, and you lost the game because of it. Siriani makes baffling decisions that do not work together, that do not compliment each other, that don't make sense analytically. I didn't get anything he did last night. I'm down on the Eagles this year. That defense looks bad. And like we can say, the Falcons offensive line was great. They managed a good pass rush. Jalen Carter, late in games, doesn't have enough stamina, just doesn't. He's playing 50% of the snaps as is, and he can't move at the end of the game. Kirk Cousins is totally immobile. You can't stress him at all, you got problems. Now, people are listening to this and saying, well, the Bears are one-on-one, and you're telling people to pump the brakes. What about the Eagles? The reason why we're talking about this game in particular is because the Eagles should be a perennial playoff team, perennial deep playoff team based on its roster composition. That team should be one of the top teams, the NFC. That's the only reason why we're talking about it in that way. Bears still trying to figure out who they are. We believe that they're going to be a playoff team this year. But the Eagles, that team should be way better than how they played in the last calendar year. No question about it. And they got trucked in the playoffs by-- Where'd they lose last year? Tampa? Yeah. And they quit on the field. It was something I've knew just-- honestly, I don't say that lightly, that it's the only time I've set it on this show. That Eagles team quit on the field in Tampa. And honestly, Sirianni shouldn't be the coach anymore. I said in the off season, they should have fired him. You've got Vic Vangio, and you've got Kellamor elevate, one of them. This guy's a loser. Wow, loser. See a loser cap? I've never met Nick. I don't know if he's a loser. I'm not talking about him personally. I'm sure he's a wonderful father, husband, whatever. On the football field as a head coach, loser. Two years ago, he had him in the Super Bowl. Here's Shay Norley. Don't be surprised if, hoodie, Nick Sirianni, isn't the only one. I think we're going to see more than a second. You know that if Shay was a booster, had billions of dollars of his dad's money? Shay would be that squeaky wheel in the athletic department. You'd be like, here he comes again. We've got to tolerate him because he gives us a lot of money. But Jesus, he's got to want us to fire the lacrosse coach because of a decision. Lacrosse, I don't care about lacrosse at all. Football coaches certainly. You would be one of the worst meddling boosters. You would pay $100 million to land that coach in any year go out. Yeah. If I can't believe I put these seeds in the ground and it's not ready for dinner. If I got the money to correct bad decisions, also it's not like this Sirianni thing is coming out of the blue cap. They quit on the field at Tampa. They started 10 and 1. The defense gave up. They quit on the field in a playoff game. I've never seen anything like it. OK. What else do we have here on 97-5, the Fnatic? Yeah, exactly. Don't be surprised if Sirianni's not the only one, hoodie. I really think we might see multiple coaches get bounced mid-season. Bill Belichick is looming. Everybody's talking about a potential head coach sweepstakes. You've got Mike McCarthy getting pantsed at home week two of a lame duck season as a big favorite to the Saints. You've got Zach Taylor on another 0-2 start. You've got Brian Dable completely lost in New York. How about this? Graham Ganno is on the injury report all week. They have a kicker on their practice squad. They don't elevate the kicker. Graham Ganno gets hurt on the opening kickoff. And for the first time in NFL history, you lose a game where you scored three more touchdowns than your opponent. Why? Because you couldn't kick field goals or extra points because you're a moron and didn't elevate your practice squad kicker. That's correct. That's horrible. That's not a Dable call. That's a Joe Shane call a GM. And both of them are going to get fired. Both of them are getting fired. Don't tell me Dable can't go to Joe Shane and go, dude, I don't have a kicker. We need a guy on the-- we need this guy elevated. The GM makes those decisions, Shay. Are they not working in concert? Come on. Maybe, but in the end, if two of them are working in-- can I get through the rest of this, please? Dable, and they're 0 and 2, Cap. Who cares? Jesus. And the following, the final. Yes? Doug Peterson, 0 and 2, has lost seven of eight games. And Trevor Lawrence looks awful. All of these guys are candidates to get bombed out mid-season. I'm going to let you finish. Any thoughts, Cap? None. None? OK. Doug Peterson is in trouble in Tampa. And so is Trevor Lawrence. If they can't turn this around, he's always looked the parts. It's almost like, Cap, I can throw out the Urban Meyer year because Urban Meyer clearly was not concentrated on coaching. No, he was a horrific hire. It was not football. He was concentrating on. And again, on the surface, good hire. Urban Meyer, sure. Urban Meyer, next level, he puts a lot of people in the NFL. And then, of course, he's put his finger where he wasn't supposed to be in the bar. So I would just say that the Jaguars are in trouble, that's for sure. We've always known that giants are in trouble. That is for sure. Hard Knocks was the expose on the business of the New York Giants football business. Horrible, horrible. So what's the next thing that we shouldn't be surprised if? Don't be surprised if-- I just want to make Cap happy. Joe Shane and Brian Dable both morons. Good? OK, let's move on. Don't be surprised if two Ataga Viola doesn't play again this season. I know he said he has no plans to retire. Listen, I don't think either the Dolphins or the NFL can sustain the PR hit of two at getting on the field and potentially sustaining another concussion this year. I don't want to see him again. As a fan, it's gotten scary. I don't need to see him again this season. Cap, how can you handle that internally? You have your doctors, and they do all the tests. And we've seen two of passive tests before to get back on the field. How do you do that? How do you tell the young man, hey, we've done your tests. You haven't passed them yet. I mean, how do you do that? I mean, look, I said to you, if that was one of my four sons, if that was one of my sons, I would have been on a plane. I'd probably be at his game anyway, because I went to every one of my kids games. But let's assume I wasn't there. I would have been on a plane to Miami. And with him, we have to have a long talk. You need to retire. I don't want you to get to age 52 and have a little kid, and you're drooling, and you can't play with your kids, 'cause you have no brain function, 'cause you're a vegetable. I don't want that for you. - But looking at this standpoint, guys, Jay Moore, as you well know, son that played football, no matter how much money that you're making, for all of us, it's like look at the generational wealth that you have. You have money in the bank. You don't have to work again for the rest of your life. But for Tuah, there's something that's in his body. The endomorphic gene or the willing to play football, whatever it is, Cap, that tells him I want to succeed. Like I've got money, but I haven't won yet. I want to play football. I want to prove that I can get it done, even though I've had concussions. What do you say? It's up to the NFL to say no. A lot of teams will say no, you've had to make concussions. But what about the young man? - Then he feels like he could still play. - Again, he's an adult, it's his decision. I would tell him if he was my son and the neurologist are saying you could do this, but it's risky. Son, let's find a good therapist, one you vibe with. You'll have to work through the mental hurdle. That's why therapy, if you need it, is a beautiful thing. Mental health matters. What do you say? Isn't that what we say? - All the time. - So if that's the case and he needs counseling to get through it, but if the doctors advise him at all, they said it's 100% you're good to go, you have no greater risk. Okay, I guess you can listen to that, but I don't think a doctor's gonna tell him that. - Jim, sometimes this is hard to come to terms with something you've been doing for so long. - That's why I say get therapy. - Yeah, and it just, over a period of time, I think they will understand or he'll understand his reality if the doctors say, "Hey man, you gotta hang it up." But if they don't and they say, "Hey, you can continue "or it's risky, it's all on him." So I just leave it up to him. If the doctors don't say, he can't do it. - And I'm just an idiot lunatic NFL fan. I don't have the right to tell Toa what he should do with his life, I don't. I'm just from my perspective as a fan when I sit down to watch the games on Sunday. It's no longer fun watching Toa play football, it's scary. I would like to personally, I would like to not see him the rest of the season. - He's gonna make whatever decision he wants to make. - Yeah, I agree. - It's just how I feel. - I do not want to see him in the fencing position again. - Agreed. - And I think the way that happens is that he does not play. - I agree, so. - It's sad, it really is. But he may need some mental health counseling to try and get through this. - I'm glad we know more about it now, but you and I saw it in real time. Steve Young's career, deteriorate. The amount of concussions that he had, the amount of concussions that Troy Eichmann had, a lot of ways knocked him out of the game. - Yeah. - He has his success, and he was like, "Eff this, I'm not gonna keep getting rattled out there." Steve Young, same thing. - Scary. - All right, Albert Breyer scheduled to join us as we talk about the Bears in the NFL with the man from Amazon Prime, NSI.com. That's next on, Captain J. Hood.