Kap & J. Hood
9/17 8 AM: Albert Breer
[Music] Good morning and welcome in to the Captain J. Hood Morning Show on ESPN 1000. And we're streaming on the ESPN Chicago app with David Kaplan Jonathan Hood with you. From any of you we have Albert Breyer scheduled to join us at 835. A special Tommy Tuesday, Tom Waddell will be good, is at 918. But first, Shala Noshad, here. Shay Norman, Shay. Good morning boys on a Tuesday. How we feeling? Awesome. Good. Great to be with the three of you as always. Little radio family here. Yeah, good. Yeah, feeling really good. A Monday night football game that I know that we will address definitely around the NFL. That was interesting with the Eagles and Falcons. It's been compelling. We've been waiting for the NFL all this time and there's so many storylines around the league. Yeah, we will address that game and around the NFL because I cannot wait. I'm not trying to get past Shala Noshad, but I can't wait to see, hear what you have cooking around the NFL coming up. I'm going to hit somebody with a sledgehammer in about 16 minutes. Somebody's taking a sledgehammer right off the dome. Wow, Gallagher style. I can't wait to hear this. No watermelon involved. Here's a normal. All right, let's get started with Shala Noshad. There's kind of a bizarre storyline coming out from the Sunday night game. Bears and Texans Chris Collins worth on the broadcast questioning the body language of one DJ more. And since then yesterday, I saw on social media bears, Twitter people everywhere grabbing screenshots of Keenan Allen trying to be a leader, coach up Caleb Williams on the sideline. Well, DJ Moore looks like he's pouting or maybe uninvolved in those conversations, just staring off into space. Shala Noshad, the DJ Moore body language conversation is totally overblown. And I know what DJ Moore is thinking. He goes, look, man, I squeeze that quarter to the middle of field. I left you five yards on the boundary out there. There was a lot of room for that back shoulder, just not enough time on task. Yeah, between those two, that was an opportunity. Damn. It's way overblown. DJ Moore and a Caleb are super tight. They have a great relationship. This is more play design blocking scheme, the O line under achieving. Let's get back to work, man. That's it. Yeah, I don't know if it's overblown. It's blown. I don't know if it's overblown. And here's why. DJ Moore is no different than a lot of high level wide receivers that feel like they should always get the ball and really pay dividends for the team. There's frustration there, of course. Not necessarily from the Tennessee game, but in that scenario, he's thinking, man, I had an opportunity to really help the team there, and I didn't get the football. So does that mean a rift? No between DJ Moore and Caleb Williams, but just like anybody else that plays with a ruthless aggression cap, you want to be able to make plays. You want to be able to help in that scenario, Caleb couldn't get in the ball. So of course he's pissed off about it, of course, because that's what a warrior does. It's not just DJ Moore. It's a lot of guys at his position do the same thing like, man, I'm here, man. Just give me the ball. Let me help you. Let me help you help the football team. That's all. Doesn't mean that that's angry or rift is this like, oh, missed opportunity. Correct. It's not like they're having these major issues, but I can tell you that the players want more from Shane Waldron. They do. Shay. All right. Kevin Jenkins was asked about the breakdowns and protection this season so far on the offensive line. He answered in a kind of vague and concerning way. Listen to this. We get the call, we hear a call in the front and we execute to where we coach to do, I mean, a lot of things happen, but like pressures and stuff. So we going to control so much. There's Kevin Jenkins. We execute on what we're being coached to do. Shot or no shot. Kevin Jenkins is blaming Shane Waldron. That's a shot in a certain way that's a shot. And by the way, as we just went through the exercise last half hour cap, I'm not mentioning even mentioning Shane Waldron or my offensive line coach, it's on me. It's on me to be able to help the young quarterback. That's all. Even if you know that Shane Waldron and the offensive line coach are not putting us in the best positions to win, if that's how you feel, it would never come to the press. I wouldn't do it. It's not worth it. Yeah. We talked about it in the last half hour, how he should have answered that and he didn't. So you could take it however you want. I think they're feeling it from all sides. And so that way, man, we're running up calls, they're telling us to execute. He should have handled it in a more mature way. That's what I'll say. You're like this in six weeks and you're still five blocks of silly putty and can't seem to help the quarterback get the ball out as quickly as possible. If you're not opening up holes for the running game, that's on you. You say it's on coaching, but to me, cap, it's everything. It's everything. It's by the execution. It's also about the coaching staff from even flew to standpoint yesterday, what do you talk to? He said about the execution. He's talking about the players. Okay. It's a push and pull on all of it. When you lose, when you underachieve, it's all of it. It's not this. It's not the coaches. Those players, we laid out a plan and they didn't execute. Okay. Well, now this is where adjustments come in also of saying, okay, if this didn't work, let's do this. But whatever it is, we got to get the positive results of all of it. They're going to have to get this fixed and quickly. Now, they may get a break. The Forrest Buckner is not expected to be able to play on Sunday with his ankle issue. They may be without the kid Latu from UCLA. I mean, if they don't have those two defensive linemen, that is a massive advantage for the Chicago Bears. That is like the football gods once again going. As what did wattle say? It's like a rich kid getting gifts on Christmas. There's a lot of them. Yeah. Here you go. We're going to take two of their best defensive players out on the D line. Shane Orley. Well, actually, I want to ask about that because as bad as things feel right now with the Bears offense looking inept, we should keep in mind they played against two elite defensive fronts to start the season and are getting the benefit of a little lucky timing. The next two games with the Colts likely down to Forrest Buckner and potentially down by A to latu, as Cap just told you this Sunday, the following game against the Rams. They will not have Pukanakur or Cooper Cup. Both players expected to miss significant time. Both players are candidates per Sean McVay. Also that entire offensive line is in flux. So the Bears are getting the Colts and the Rams potentially at the best possible time to get them all year shot or no shot. The Bears will be three in one in two weeks. That's a shot. That's a shot. They are getting two teams that are banged up and that's a desperate Colts team. They're 0 and 2. We know the percentages of teams at 0 and 2 are slim that make the playoffs. Yes. 0 and 3. It's unheard of how slim it is. And the Rams are going to come in here. They had to sign three offensive linemen last week. Like they're, we think our old lines in trouble, they just lost 41 to 10 of the Cardinals. They're getting destroyed. But Cap, what are we going to do about it? I mean, their storyline is what their storyline is, but what are we going to do about it? Correct. By defensively, I think that you and I are on the same page for sure. The defense will get turnovers. They'll get pressures. They'll get home and get sacks. But what about the flip side? See, yes, we talked a lot about the offensive line because that is a big storyline. Seems like every year with the Bears. But then what is Caleb Williams going to do about it? Between the flashy plays, what else is going to do about it? Well, is he going to overshoot receivers moving forward? Because that's expected. It's what we talked about in June. A rookie quarterback is not going to be perfect. A rookie quarterback is going to make his share of mistakes and turnovers. You're correct. That he threw interceptions on Sunday because I know that he said that's not him. It is you in the National Football League because the timing, the clock in your head goes off very quickly in the NFL versus college. So it is a given. Cold tab problems on the offensive line. They're owing to, they're desperate to have a victory at home. Yeah, their D line is the one that should be an advantage for Chicago. But I guess, again, the question still stands like with the Colts and the Rams are just laid out, Shay, what are the Bears going to do about it offensively? My hope is that starting on Sunday, then everything clicks offensively, even with the offensive line problems, that they can be able to score and not have so many problems scoring the freaking football. If Buckner and Latoo don't go on Sunday and you can't run the ball, we've got big problems. The Colts, even with Buckner and Latoo, can't defend the run. So if they're not on the field and you can't run on them, next Monday is not going to be fun. That said, if you do run the ball and you win the game, then you get the Rams and I'm going to say something, hoodie. If the Rams don't have cup in the Kua and they won't, both guys going to miss significant time per the head coach Sean McVay. If their offensive line is in flux and they're struggling to run the football and you've got giveaway prone Matthew Stafford as the quarterback with no help, Bears could pitch a shot out in that game. They could, but they're one of the Bears going to do on the other side. Well, zero, zero is a tie, but you know what I'm saying, right? The old Dominic McNab said they're like, I don't know how to feel after a tie. But that's the big question. Yeah. So the Colts and the Rams have their issues. Well, some of the Bears, offensively, correct, so what are you going to do about it? Those games are winnable. You want to win those games? What? Six, three? Nine, three? You better figure offensive issues out. So, Shea, I think, I think it's a shot, by the way, to answer your question. I think it's a shot that they go three and one. I just want you to know what the offense is going to do. I know the defense will do their job. What's the offense going to do? But I'll, I'll ride with you that those are winnable games because I think that that's what I had to start the season. We did our win loss predictions cap. I think I had those the next two games as wins in this nine eight season. I think the Bears are going to have, I hope you're right. Well, if they are three and one, guess who they get the following week? The Carolina Panthers, Bryce Young yesterday, benched just two games into his second season. The Panthers have elected to go with quarterback Andy Dalton after Bryce put out his two worst performances of his young career despite having a top five graded offensive line. Week two, Bryce Young was the least pressured quarterback in all of football and he was terrible. His career might be over. Just two games into his second season. You hear this right, Cap? I am. Shot or no shot. Have I said anything wrong, Cap? Go ahead. Finish it. Shot or no shot. Insane thoughts. If Caleb Williams is even serviceable as a quarterback, this is the most lopsided trade in NFL history. No shot because the Herschel Walker trade led to two Super Bowl championships. That's correct. We can. And again, let me be clear. I love that Ryan Polls is our GM. I think if you add up all his moves, he's done so much good to get the culture fixed up there, the roster, all of it. But he isn't perfect either. No GM is. And until we win, I mean, we mean in Bears Nation, until they win and win big, can't call this the best trade in NFL history. Are you out of your mind? The Herschel Walker trade they won two Super Bowls was the foundation of a bunch of Hall of Famers. You can tell me all you want, what we got from Carolina. We haven't done anything with it yet. Nothing. It's all on paper. Gotta execute. Polls says everything except the offensive line and the winning. Otherwise, it's fine. I mean, it's just just the fact if two years from now, we're still going, I don't know about this. Caleb Williams guy. We got to figure this thing out. And is it really that great a trade? Darnell Wright has to hit. It's got to be a promo right tackle, he went tenth. So Shane, just as we get right for around the NFL, just lay it out again for those listening. The first overall pick, Bryce Young goes to Panthers and the Bears get DJ Moore, ninth overall pick in 2023, traded to the Eagles and the Bears. And you've got Darnell right out of that 2023 second round pick, traded to become Tyreke Stevenson, 2024 first round pick, became Caleb Williams, and again, the 2025 second round pick. And the pick that you traded, number nine, you got Darnell Wright at 10, you also got a fourth round pick that turned into Tori Taylor, I believe. I believe that's the end result of getting Tori Taylor. You got a ton back. But, Shane, if you don't win, then the trade is overrated. You got to win. Even when Bryce Young struggles and I'm never going to give up on young talent, I'm just saying, like, once again, you started Bryce Young, you didn't have to do that, you could have tanked again and started, was Andy Dalton with the team last year as a backup? Yes. Also, okay, so that's what you would have went to it. And you would have been okay, but I would have got a high draft pick out of it because I know with Andy Dalton, you're going to win four or five games, maybe Max. And here's the other thing. Who was, see if you remember this, Shane don't answer this hoodie by partner, who was the quarterback in Carolina two years ago to finish the season. And they let him go. It was probably the middle of the season. Sorry. Well, you were not supposed to. I know you said don't answer, but sorry, but I had to is my guy hit just jumped out of my throat. I couldn't stop it. Baker Mayfield was there and they let him go and he ended up finishing the season with the Rams. And all of a sudden Tampa signed him and people laughed. Go back and read the articles. What a joke. That has Baker Mayfield. Oh, they beat the Eagles in a playoffs. They re-signed him for a bunch of money and he looks really good and he just wanted Detroit. Yeah. Yeah. So do you remember the story last year? I think we talked about our last off season. David Tepper walked into the restaurant, took the hosts hat off, was a costing him because there was a sell the team sign. Yeah, I remember that. Yesterday, there was a sign at that same restaurant said Mayfield two and oh, uh, Donald two and oh, Bryce, oh, and two man around the NFL is coming up next. It's going to be a banger. Don't forget Alberbrier as well. Coming up in our next half hour, Captain Jay Hood on ESPN 1000 and also on our YouTube channel, follow Chicago's home for sports on Twitch at ESPN 1000 Chicago. Captain Jay Hood are back on Chicago's home for sports, ESPN Chicago. It both sucks. He sucks. I'm just a fan. I'm not a football about here. I love the Green Bay Packers. The guy is front, but there he goes. This is not Detroit man. This is the Super Bowl. I love winter. He starts the comedy. This is a really thickly built guy with the answer you look at for all these things here. It's time to go around the NFL right here on cap and Jay Hood. Alberbrier with us at 835 around the NFL here is Shane or like Shane. All right. It's Tuesday. So today is the don't be surprised if addition of around the NFL. Uh oh. This is going to be good. We're going to start with Monday night football. So don't be surprised if Nick Sirianni doesn't make it Thanksgiving last season ended in utter disaster. Everyone knows I don't need to revisit how last season ended for the Eagles yesterday. I thought he made multiple fireable decisions that directly led to a loss to the Falcons in prime time and it started everybody's talking about throwing the ball to say quan Barkley which was dumb you should run the clock but it started for me in the first quarter when Nick Sirianni apparently embraced analytics which he refused to do for the remainder of the game and went for it on fourth down in a zero zero game at the goal line early then compounds that by kicking a field goal on fourth down in the final drive to go up six news flash to Sirianni if you take your three points early in the game the field goal you kick at the end ends the game but because you didn't take it you only have a six point lead and Kirk Cousins walks your bad defense down the field and ends it. I mean cap is a shame I have different ways of how the Eagles should have won that game obviously the Barkley inability to catch the football stood out a lot but at the end of the game if I'm the Eagles I'm kneeling on the football several times if the Falcons have a that time out then it takes I don't know 30 seconds for the Falcons to be able to go down the field and score but I'm taking the air out of the football like no if you want to beat me you got to throw like two Hail Mary's a 40 and a 30 to get a field goal position I'm kneeling on the football in that spot at the end in the fourth quarter but and I don't disagree with you but give me your opinion on this you pay 27 million I think it was for Saquon Barkley maybe more he was the most coveted running back on the market he's a hell of a talent you hit him in the hands he catches the football the games over yeah he's gonna make the play I understand imagine him being a bear bears we're in there now you understand like imagine if that's a bear at that spot and he misses the ball oh man he's got more drops over the last last season in the start of this than any running back in the game 16 drops yet so do me a favor put the ball directly in his hands via a hand off hand off yes it makes no sense to throw in the ball there and that said like I bring up the first quarter and going for it I'm fourth down in a nothing nothing game for whatever reason I still understand I would have taken the three points if you're gonna go for it there you should go for it I'm fourth down at the end of the game and end the game because you didn't take three early I don't think you can take three late you're not going up a full touchdown and you've lost the game because of it Siriani makes baffling decisions that do not work together that do not compliment each other that don't make sense analytically I didn't get anything he did last night I'm down on the Eagles this year that defense looks bad and like we can say the Falcons offensive line was great they managed a good pass rush yeah Jalen Carter late in games doesn't have enough stamina just doesn't he's playing 50% of the snaps as is and he can't move at the end of the game Kirk Cousins is totally immobile you can't stress him at all you got problems now people are listening to this and saying well the Bears are one-on-one and you're telling people to pump the brakes what about the Eagles the reason why that we're talking about this game in particular is because the Eagles should be a perennial playoff team perennial deep playoff team based on its roster composition that team should be one of the top teams the NFC that's the only reason why we're talking about it in in that way bears still trying to figure out who they are we believe that they're going to be a playoff team this year but the Eagles that team should be way better than how they played on the last calendar year no question about it and they got trucked in the playoffs by where they lose last year Tampa yeah and they quit on the field it was something I've just honestly I don't say that lightly that it's the only time I've set it on this show that Eagles team quit on the field in Tampa and honestly Siriani shouldn't be the coach anymore I said in the off season they should have fired him you've got Vic Vangio and you've got Kellam Moore elevate one of them this guy's a loser wow loser see a loser cap I've never met Nick I don't know if I'm talking about him personally I'm sure he's a wonderful father husband whatever right on the football field as a head coach loser years ago he had him in the Super Bowl here Shane Norley don't be surprised if hoodie Nick Siriani isn't the only one I think we're gonna see man second you know that if Shay was a booster had it you know billions of dollars yeah of his dad's money uh-huh he Shay would be that squeaky wheel in the athletic department you'd be like now here he comes again we got to tolerate him because he gives us a lot of money but Jesus he's gonna want us to fire the lacrosse coach because of a decision lacrosse I don't care about lacrosse at all you would be one of the worst meddling boosters you would pay a hundred million to land that coaching any year ago out yeah I believe I put these seeds in the ground and it's not ready for dinner if I got the money to correct bad decisions also it's not like this Siriani thing is coming out of the blue cap they quit on the field at Tampa they started ten and one the defense gave up they quit on the field in a playoff game I've never seen anything like it okay what else do we have here on 97 five the fanatic yeah exactly don't be surprised if Siriani's not the only one hoodie I really think we might see multiple coaches get bounced mid-season bill Belichick is looming everybody's talking about a potential head coach sweepstakes you've got Mike McCarthy getting pantsed at home week two of a lame duck season as a big favorite to the Saints you've got Zack Taylor on another 0-2 start you've got Brian Dable completely lost in New York how about this Graham Ganno is on the injury report all week they have a kicker on their practice squad they don't elevate the kicker Graham Ganno gets hurt on the opening kickoff and for the first time in NFL history you lose a game where you scored three more touchdowns than your opponent why because you couldn't kick field goals or extra points because you're a moron and didn't elevate your practice squad kicker that's correct no kicker that's not a table call that's a Joe Shane call the GM and both of them are gonna get fired both of them are getting don't tell me Dave Bull can't go to Joe Shane and go dude I don't have a kicker we need a guy on the pride we need this guy elevated the GM makes those decisions shame are they not working in concert come on did you know one of them are working can I get through the rest of this place Dave Bull and they're 0-2 cap who cares Jesus and the following the final yes Doug Peterson 0-2 has lost seven of eight games and Trevor Lawrence looks awful all of these guys are candidates to get bombed out mid-season I'm going to finish any thoughts cap none none okay Doug Peterson is in trouble in Tampa and so is Trevor Lawrence if they can't turn this around he's always looked the parts we just knew it's almost like I can throw out the urban Meyer year because urban Meyer clearly was not concentrated on coaching no he was a horrific hire it was not football he was concentrating on here and again on the surface good hire like urban Meyer sure urban Meyer next level you know he puts a lot of people in the NFL and then of course he's put his finger words wasn't supposed to be in the bar so I would just say that the Jaguars are in trouble that's for sure we've always known that Giants are in trouble that is for sure hard nots was the expose on the business of the New York Giants football business horrible horrible so what's the next thing that we shouldn't be surprised if don't be surprised if I just I want to make cap happy Joe Shane and Brian Dave Bull both morons good okay let's move on don't be surprised if to attack a silo it doesn't play again this season I know he said he has no plans to retire listen I don't think either the dolphins or the NFL can sustain the PR hit if to a get on a field and potentially sustaining another concussion this year I don't want to see him again as a fan it's gotten scary I don't need to see him again this season cap how can you handle that internally you have your doctors they do all the tests and we've seen to a pass a test before to get back on the field how do you do that how do you tell the young man hey are we done your tests you haven't passed to me I mean we how do you do that I mean look I said to you if that was one of my care for sons if that was one of my sons I would have been on a plane I'd probably be at his game anyway because I went to every one of my kids games but let's assume I wasn't there I would have been on a plane to Miami and with him we have to have a long talk you need to retire I don't want you to get to age 52 and have a little kid and you're drooling in you can't play with your kids because you have no brain function because you're a vegetable I don't want that for you but looking at from this standpoint guys Jay Moore as you will know son that played football no matter how much money that you're making for all of us it's like look at the generational wealth that you have you have money in the bank you don't have to work again for the rest of your life but for to uh there's something that's in his body the endomorphic gene or the willing to play football whatever it is cap that tells him I want to succeed like I've got money but I haven't won yet I want to play football I want to prove that I can get it done even though I've had concussions what do you say it's up to the NFL to say no for a lot of teams say no you've had to make concussions but what about the young man then he he feels like he can still play again it's he's an adult it's his decision I would tell him if he was my son and the neurologist are saying you can do this but it's risky son let's find a good therapist one you vibe with you'll have to work through the mental hurdle that's why therapy if you need it is a beautiful thing yeah mental health matters what do you say that won't we say all the time so if that's the case and he needs counseling to get through it but if the doctors advise him at all they said it's a hundred percent you're good to go you have no greater risk okay I guess you can listen to that but I don't think a doctor's gonna tell him that the number of concussions is hard to come to terms with something you've been doing for so long that's why I say get therapy yeah and it just over a period of time I think they will understand or he'll understand his reality if the doctors say hey man you got to hang it up but if they don't and they say hey you can continue or it's risky it's all on him so I just leave it up to him if the doctors don't say he can't do it and I'm just an idiot lunatic NFL fan I don't have the right to tell to what he should do with his life I don't I'm just from my perspective as a fan when I sit down to watch the games on Sunday it's no longer fun watching to a play football it's scary I would like to personally I would like to not see him the rest of the season he's gonna make whatever decision he wants to make yeah I agree it's just how I feel I do not want to see him in the fencing position again agree and I think the way that happens is that he does not play I agree so it's sad really is but he may need some mental health counseling to try and get through this glad we know more about it now but you and I saw it in real time Steve Young's career deteriorate mm-hmm the amount of concussions that he had the amount of concussions that Troy Aikman had a lot of weight knocked him out of the game yeah he has his success and he was like yep this what I gotta keep you know rattled out there Steve Young same thing scary alright Albert Breyer scheduled to join it so we talk about the Bears in the NFL with the man from Amazon Prime and SI.com that's next on Captain J. Hood welcome back to Captain J. Hood you're officially locked in on Chicago's on for sports ESPN Chicago football on ESPN 1000 hello Bird Albert Breyer a bird senior NFL writer for SI.com joins Captain J. Hood Bird said what you're at Bird on ESPN 1000 what do you mean I'm good we see that's the game I just tag you and you're in until you tag somebody else Albert Breyer no no I'm not playing a game I'm reading and I'm not okay on Chicago's home for sports what bird is it Albert Breyer from SI.com and Amazon Prime joins the star here on the Captain J. Hood morning show and he's on the hotline current star and I don't have a good morning Albert how are you good how you guys doing we're doing great awesome awesome how did it feel man right there on the sidelines they go to you just like old school man just like old man McDonough just like you have a very disappointed no schoolboy cap on the top of your head yeah I should I definitely should have gone with a scalloped guy yeah I'm not I'm not quite Irish enough for that I do have Irish blood I do have you know on my dad's side I'd say I'm about a quarter Irish I don't know what the genealogy is exactly there but but yeah I know I maybe maybe at some point once I once I hear my strikes there I'll break up the scalloped cap I don't know if I can I don't know how well I'd wear it again I might not be quite Irish enough for it so Albert let's talk about our bears because the offensive line had a rough rough first two weeks the interior of the Tennessee line was a problem with the Vondre sweat at 366 this week it was the edges in the Neil Hunter and Will Anderson so David Bakhtiari's out there there's a hand mason coal there's a handful of guys out there how does this get fixed yeah I mean I think part of it is like do you like when you're assessing I think what you've got is good for Braxton Jones good enough that left tackle you paid for Nate Davis so you assume he's gonna stay there at guard you know Darnell Wright the expectation is he keeps getting better he was obviously a very eye draft pick but yeah I mean I think thought the hope would be that this keeps get that this continues to get better that week one was a flip and that week two is a result of playing you know one of the better defensive fronts in all football one of the better pairs of that drutchers in all football so you know it's not ideal the center position I think is definitely one you can look at you know I think Mason Cole as you mentioned is somebody that that that that has the versatility to play all over the place including at center you know but I I think it's the reality of it is that you didn't invest quite as much in those positions as you did the skill positions and so you're leaning a little bit more you know especially left tackle on player player development you know and right tackle also you know guys a higher pack and there you hope over the course the year it gets better so overall looking at the bears I'm saying that football against Houston I think the expectation was the bears are going to fall short but is anything it stood out most about the bears to you yeah I mean I you know I think hoodie I like the sensibly based on what they were up against I don't think it was bad you know I think it was a pretty good effort overall you know I that that offense is going to scorn everybody and I think you guys got a good look at how good CJ really is they were able to get to him a little bit you know which is good you know obviously Nico made his plays but they were able to kind of get a handle on Steph Diggs and and tank Dell so I think defensively there were some silver linings there you know I just think right now like it looks like that's the way that he's going to have to win games right like is you know they're going to have to play a certain style as cable gets more comfortable and I do think you saw strides from Caleb now I couldn't go over the top as Collinsworth did I love Chris but you seem more excited about like you know like slants underneath tonight than I've ever seen anybody but yes but but yeah but but I but I do think that the larger point that Chris was trying to make there is that you know Caleb is learning to play on time and I do think that there's a process for him and and I think you're seeing this play out in real time of like learning what he can get away with and what he can't get away with right and that's a that's that's a big picture thing that I think is going to take some time to get through and he's working his way through that now and it might be frustrating at times to watch it as it happens but you know I do think he'll get there in time and look we didn't get to see my homes as a rookie right like you got to do some of this stuff behind the scenes so the fact that you're playing him right away as part of it you know is that you're you're getting to see that process play out right in front of your eyes instead of it happening during any sort of registry year so the cults look like they're going to be without the forest buckner this week he's got an ankle injury a lot to their top you know pick in the first round looks like he may miss the game their defense of lineman so the bears may get a couple of breaks there what is going on with this cults team that's owing to they lost the Malik Willis they were a favorite at Green Bay and Green Bay said we're going to run the ball down your throat and you can't do anything about it 265 yards later they didn't I would be really concerned about the cults defense right now and is the scheme working for them you know I just I mean that's an up field scheme everybody knows it's the old Seattle scheme is probably the one of them that's out there it's like maybe the most unchanged from what it was in Seattle all those years ago and it really you know it's pretty keen on getting guys up field and creating havoc in the back field and you know the fact that you had a packer scene that I mean like what but I could I look like I'm not exactly you know I'm not exactly buddy Ryan over here and I could tell you what the what the Packers were going to do to the cults you know what I mean like the Packers were based on their situation and where they were at with Jordan what about going to line up and try to run the ball right at the right at the the cult and in that first quarter I believe I'm gonna look it up again but I think it was like 20 carries for hold on I've got it here so it's just the first quarter right so this is when like you know you're you're you're in your game plan stuff and when you're probably you know like you should be most ready for whatever's coming so in the first quarter the Packers ran the ball 20 times for a hundred and sixty forty yards Malik roll us through it just twice think about that run pass ratio I mean like that's the sort of run pass ratio we had run annoying key in high school you know what I mean like so and they still couldn't stop it so I think you know like that's what it is we're gonna want to come at the the cult this week is get the Andre Swift met run game going early I think it gives them a chance to get the offensive line speed underneath them and you know ultimately it'll give them a better chance to protect Caleb and get put Caleb playing on time more often so you know if fuck is out you know which it looks like he will be if lots use out that you know also will hamper the cult ability to rush the pastor because those are probably the two best past pressures you know but you know really you know on space at the at the at the at the beginning of the game it looks like you would want to test the cults the same way the Packers did and the way the Packers had a lot of success with them in Atlanta on Sunday Albert Breer from SI dot com and Amazon Prime is with us we'll talk more with Albert as we go around the NFL with Albert Breer on Cap and Jay Hood right welcome back to Captain Jay Hood on Chicago's on for sports ESPN Chicago Albert Breer with us every Tuesday on the Cap and Jay Hood morning show on ESPN 1000 and streaming of the ESPN Chicago app saw the news from Dave Canalas the Panthers coach is gonna make a switch is Andy Dalton big red will be in instead of Bryce Young will young get an opportunity to start again this season Albert I think it depends on how Dalton plays how the team plays it's an unconventional move I do think after after digging into it a little bit more I think this had to do with whether or not you can sell Bryce Young to the team anymore and you know as a first year head coach Dave Canalas means to you know set a standard and hold everybody that standard and you know I know having talked to some chargers people about what they saw on Sunday they saw a kid who I guess he really having trouble seeing which is where the height thing comes into play right really having trouble seeing the field and has issues right now looking at the rush and his eyes are dropping and that's I mean sort of the kiss of death for a quarter for a young quarterback right like once you start looking at the rush and protecting yourself against head getting hit you know now like you're undermining the entire offense and part of it's not his fault like part of that's the result of getting hit that much you know but one way or the other right now it's not giving the Panthers the best chance and so if you're gonna sell him to receivers to running backs to the offensive lineman who are worried about your three-year plan at quarterback who are more worried about like what's gonna put me in the best position to win right now to perform individually right now and ultimately get paid you know like then you know you have to be on the level with those guys and if there's a guy in their quarterback who is not doing that then you know like you know you have to really consider making a change and that's sort of where they are it's a really really tough place for a franchise to be in yeah I don't know what the road out of this becomes with Bryce Young but certainly if Andy Dalton plays well it's gonna become more difficult to get right young back in there if you were a really really good franchise that knew how to develop quarterbacks Green Bay for example would you call Carolina and go I'll give you a third-round pick right now cut your losses I'll take him and see if you could save him a good question um yeah maybe I mean I think I would be something I would consider if I liked him coming out a three might be rich you know generally teams like the really value those top 100 picks yep but I might I might have the conversation I don't think the channel and the Panthers would do it at this point I think there's so messy there right now cap you know what I mean like I just I don't know where you know like where if you're them you could justify like letting go of him after all you gave up to move up to trade with the Bears to go and get him you know it's just a really tricky situation you know so I think like at this point the values you'd have to do another team doesn't match up with what you'd have to give the Panthers to get them to give up on him completely you know um so and look like I mean I think we can all point back to Tua as the situation is you know where where someone was able to come in and dig him out of a pretty people right like so um you know like if you want to go back like you know Tua's first two years weren't much better than this you know with Brian Flores and then in year three incomes Mike McDaniel and everything changes right like so um I wouldn't say completely lost because I would say like it's just it'd be hard to match up that value where you know a team was you could match up what a team was willing to give up to go and get him as like a futures sort of prospect um with you know what it would take the pan well what it would take for the Panthers to get to detach from the investment they've made them you saw it Albert up close and personal what happened with Tua in Miami yeah so so what is what is the likelihood that Tua plays again this season if he's cleared I'm not ruling it out I mean I I can't find very many people around him who are saying no he's not playing this year you know um and I think this is a difficult thing because I think all of us are sensibilities say you know I mean I've covered the league 20 years I've only seen the fencing posture twice and it was both times it was with this guy my understanding of that is that it's a you know a sign of a very serious brain injury it's involuntary an involuntary reaction from the brain to a serious concussion and so like I think all about sensibility say like you know like I wouldn't want my brother my son you know going out there again and I mean you heard Tony Gonzalez said in our post game shows like that was my son I would tell him to hang it up you know um now like that's one side of it that's our sensibility the other side of it is like the psychology of a pro athlete and it was so hard about guys I mean I he hasn't been around enough to these guys to know like it's just I mean can you imagine being so good at something like that it became your identity when you're a kid when you're a teenager and then when you go to college and then you become a millionaire because of it knowing so many people in the world that can do what you do and you are this elite at it that they're only like X amount of people that have the job that you have and like then at some point in your late 20s early 30s mid 30s someone taps you on the shoulder and tells you you never do that again and that's for a guy who's healthy right like that's a guy that's for a guy who has a normal career is that eventually that cap comes in your shoulder where it's like now I got so much more of my life to live and my identity has been stripped from me now imagine it happens this way you know I mean a lot of us just think like oh yeah this is an easy decision if you're too I take your money and go the psychology of a pro athlete is much different than that you know I think Teddy Bruce he did a great job of articulating it on Sunday you know why he came back from a stroke it's just you know again like our sensibilities would say like the smart thing to do is to walk away from football so for these guys it's just not that easy Albert have an awesome week can't wait to see you on Thursday night football we'll talk to you in a week you're the best alright thanks guys appreciate it there is the great 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