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Don't Blame Trump. Blame Trump Voters. Time for Tough Love For Trump Voters

Chris Christie yesterday said Donald Trump is to blame for Mark Robinson. Bullshit. Trump isn't to blame. Republican voters are. They chose Robinson. Just like they chose Kari Lake. Just like they chose Trump. Respectfully, it's time for tough love for Trump voters.


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As a rule, I never, ever, ever personally attack Trump's supporters. Why? Because I used to be a Trump supporter. Why else? Because I think in the main, most of Donald Trump's supporters are good, decent, God-fearing Americans who've been lied to, deceived, demagogued, and inflamed for the past eight to nine years. I do not personally go after Trump's supporters. I know sometimes I fall off that wagon, but as a rule, I don't. But it's time, it's well past time, for some real tough love for Trump supporters. Trump supporters need to face the music. Trump supporters, Republican voters need to face the truth. This is on them. If Trump loses in November, it's on them. Mark Robinson, we talked about it last week. If he gets his butt handed to him in North Carolina, it's on them. It's on North Carolina Republican voters. Kerry Lake in Arizona. If Kerry Lake, as it looks like she will, if she gets her butt handed to her in November, that's on Arizona Republicans. Look, it's time for some tough love. I've been doing this for a while, privately, because I've been engaging with Trump's supporters, Trump's voters now for a long, long time. Again, because I come from that world, I was of that world. I still speak with, I still listen to, I still engage with, I still have conversations with every single day with Trump voters. Chris Christie was on the television yesterday. On TV yesterday, they were talking about a whole bunch of things, and Chris Christie was wrong again. Chris Christie is often wrong, because Chris Christie lacks the courage to say what really needs to be said. And Chris Christie was wrong yesterday when he said that it's Trump's fault. Donald Trump is to blame, Chris Christie said, for Mark Robinson in North Carolina. The, oh gosh, the scandal laden, porn-loving, Nazi-loving, Holocaust-denying, women-hating Mark Robinson, that guy, the Republican nominee for governor of North Carolina, is going to lose in November. Lose badly. Another scandal. More shit came out about him last week. I don't need to go into it again. You don't need to hear it again. Really bad, bad stuff. Really bad, bad stuff that damn near everybody on Mark Robinson's campaign resigned over the weekend. His campaign manager, his deputy campaign manager, his chief campaign advisor, his finance director, basically everybody left. It's Mark Robinson and maybe his best friend. That's about it. Running this campaign to be governor of a state, because of all the shit that came out again last week about Mark Robinson, I will just add here that all of these people knew what a bad, horrible, misogynistic, racist, bigoted, cruel, hateful guy Mark Robinson was before this past week. The finance director, the campaign manager, all of these people resigning over the weekend, they knew all this shit about Mark Robinson months ago. So no, no pat on the back for them, to them for leaving Robinson this weekend. But Chris Christie yesterday said that Donald Trump is to blame for this, for this situation, for what he called the Mark Robinson situation. Mark Robinson's going to lose badly in North Carolina. Chris Christie blames Trump. I guess because Trump endorsed Mark Robinson. That's bullshit. That's a bullshit take by. That's a week take by Chris Christie. Everybody endorsed Mark Robinson. Donald Trump endorsed Mark Robinson. Rhonda Santis endorsed Mark Robinson. Every major Republican member of Congress, Lindsey Graham endorsed Mark Robinson. Everybody did. Tom Cotton endorsed Mark Robinson. They all did. But they didn't all vote for Mark Robinson. They did not vote for. Donald Trump did not vote for Mark Robinson in the Republican primary in North Carolina. Republican primary voters did. They did that. Trump's not to blame for Mark Robinson. North Carolina Republican voters are. North Carolina Republican primary voters are. The Republican party base is to blame. They voted for him. Again, it's always this concept and I say this as a former Republican, still a proud Tea Party libertarian conservative. I say this. I've always believed in individual responsibility. The Republican party has always told me they believe in individual responsibility. It's clear, man. It's been crystal clear for the past six, seven, eight years that Republicans don't believe do not believe in individual responsibility when it comes to Donald Trump. Like Donald Trump is never, ever, ever responsible for anything he says or does. Republican voters have made clear that individual responsibility is a thing for everyone except Donald Trump. He's not responsible for his own actions. Trump voters have always said. He's a victim. He's a victim. That black kid on the south side of Chicago who grabbed a gun and shot people, oh man. Republican voters will say individual responsibility. He's responsible for what he did. When it comes to lower income, black and brown folk out there committing crimes, Trump voters are all over the notion of individual responsibility, Joe, but not Trump, not when it comes to Trump. But it's time to apply individual responsibility to Republican voters. It's time they chose Mark Robinson. If he loses and if he loses badly, that's on them. Republican voters chose Robinson. Republican voters chose Kerry Lake in Arizona. She's going to lose badly. Trump endorsed her. Everybody endorsed her. But only Arizona Republican voters voted for her. Only Arizona Republican voters chose her. It's time Republican voters to face this music. You chose Kerry Lake. You chose Mark Robinson. You chose to embrace the lies they told you. You chose to believe the lies. You chose to embrace the hate that they spewed, the bigotry that they spewed, the intolerance that they spewed. You ate it all up. You embraced it. You wanted it. Mark Robinson made clear during the Republican primary that he hated anybody in the LGBTQ community. He made that clear to Republican party voters and Republican primary voters voted for him. Mark Robinson made clear. We knew in that Republican primary that he was a Holocaust denier. Republican party voters in North Carolina chose a Holocaust denier to be their nominee. Mark Robinson in that primary, enough shit came out about him, about how he really felt about women. About how sexist and misogynistic he was. Republican primary voters in North Carolina chose that. They knew all that about him. They chose it. Donald Trump had nothing to do with that. Look, I'm here for Republican voters. I'm here for Trump's voters. And because I so care about Trump's voters, I'm not going to let him off the hook. I'm not going to blame Trump. I'm going to blame them. I'm not going to be Chris Christie. Chris Christie, like somehow still thinks he's going to be relevant in the Republican party. So it's really easy to go after Trump. But if you want to be relevant in the Republican party, you can't go after Republican party voters. Well, bullshit. I have enough respect for Republican party voters that I can look them in the eyes and tell them the truth. This is your fault. You did this. You're to blame. You chose Robinson. You chose Kerry Lake. You over the last two to three election cycles have chosen all of these horrible election denying candidates who have gone down in flames in the general election. I'm not going to sugarcoat it for you. I'm not going to lie to you. This is on you. You did this. Now, what makes me sad is this Monday, I do know that a lot of these voters have become radicalized like they want the most dishonest, hateful, intolerant, truth ignoring facts, ignoring candidates they can get because they just want candidates who are going to go after their enemies. Just like Trump, by the way, Republican party voters, you've chosen Trump. If Trump loses in November, it's not his fault. Republican voters, it's yours. Republican voters have told us now election after election that they want. They don't give a damn how bad their candidates are, how dishonest their candidates are, how cruel their candidates are. They don't, how hateful their candidates are. Republican voters have told us they don't care about that as long as they get candidates who go after the people they want gone after. The media, Democrats, the socialist, the communist, whatever. Republican voters will vote for the most egregious sinners on the planet as long as they're going after CNN or they're going after Democrats. Republican voters have chosen this and this will not stop. We'll continue to get Mark Robinson's and Kerry Lakes and Donald Trump's and all the rest of them will continue to get candidates like this as long as Republican voters choose them, as long as Republican voters say that they want them. But Chris Christie is wrong. It's just too easy to blame Trump. You can't blame Trump for Trump. Republican voters, they made Trump their guy. They made Trump their cult leader. You blame them. It's time for that tough love. Don't, don't, man, treat Trump voters, treat Republican voters with the same respect you'd treat anyone else. You'd hold anyone else accountable for what they did and what they said. And look, I've acknowledged this. I've said this repeatedly over the years. Republican voters, the base of the party, has become radicalized. We need to unradicalize them because I believe they're still good people, but they've become radicalized. They've given up on democracy to give them back the America they want. They've embraced authoritarianism to give them back the America they want. And they've embraced hate and even been indifferent toward political violence to get the America back that they want. These voters are radicalized in this way, Republican party voters, because, yes, they've been lied to. They've been inflamed. They've been wound up. They've been deceived. They've had people spewing hate at them in right-wing media and Republican politicians day after day after day, right? They're eating cats and dogs. They're committing crimes on your street. Republican party voters have been fed this hateful demagogic crap day after day for years. It's not a surprise that most of them embrace the hate and believe the lies. But ultimately still, they're responsible for believing the lies and choosing these candidates. That's not an easy thing for me to say because I say that as someone who comes from right-wing media and who for years helped to radicalize these good folks way more than I'm proud of, for years I would help inflame these Republican voters. So I helped get them to the point where when Trump came along, came down that escalator and said, "I'm going to build a wall and I'm going to keep brown and black people out." And they all said, "Finally, amen." And they were gone. It wasn't just Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and all the rest who got them to that point. I did and a number of us did. A number of us right-wing media voices did. The point is they're radicalized now and the point is they're the ones choosing these candidates. They're responsible for this. And by the way, it's why I spend so much time every day continuing to engage with them to somehow try to help unradicalize, deradicalize them, to help pull them back into the world of decency and truth where we can disagree with Kamala Harris and her policies, but not hate and not lie about. I'm helping them get to a place where they can be upset about our broken immigration system and want something done about our broken immigration system, but not hate on and lie about the immigrants and the migrants who are in this country now because of that broken immigration system. I'm not asking Trump's voters and I'm not asking Republican voters to stop believing the things they believe in. I'm asking them and I'm engaging with tough love with them to demand that they stop believing the lies, to demand that they stop listening to hate-filled liars like Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump and Mark Robinson and you can go down the line when it comes to the loudest MAGA voices out there who lie to them still repeatedly every day. I am demanding and I'm going to respectfully and lovingly push these Republican voters to stop believing and voting for this dishonesty, this hate, and this intolerance. But it's on them. They chose Mark Robinson. Don't blame Trump, Chris Christie. By the way, another quick thought and we're going to have a conversation tomorrow on tomorrow's podcast, conversation with pollster, a prognosticator, Carl Allen, fascinating conversation. A word on the polling right now, this race is really close between Trump and Harris. And traditionally, the Donald Trump vote has always been under counted, meaning people in polls have generally been, there's been like this, this percentage that's been afraid to say they support Trump, they're going to vote for Trump to a pollster, embarrassed to say that to a pollster. And so in this happened in 16, it happened in 20, it happened in 22, the Trump vote has been under counted in the polls. And there are real concerns that it's being under counted again when you see polls that say Kamala Harris is up three to four points. Democratic pollsters and Democratic consultants have real concern right now that that's not accurate because of this Trump undercounting. Keep an eye on that. Trump supporters, Trump opposers, Harris voters, whoever you're voting for, when you listen to people talk about the polls right now and Harris supporters, when you hear and you get ahead of yourself and you hear Harris is up four to five points, be cautious about that. 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