(upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Hey, everybody, how you doing? - Well, that's good. Welcome to PHLY Flyers. My name is Bill Matts. I'm your director of fun and games at our new non-game day time here four o'clock. Thank you all for joining us. Joining me today to my left, it is Philadelphia's number one hockey beat reporter, Charlie O'Connor. What's going on today Chuck? How was your weekend? - It wasn't bad. It's good to see you in a place that is in Allentown. - Last time I saw you, we were at a at Brew Daddy's. I gotta tell you, I know we've had a lot of fun, especially with the Colesov situation, making fun of Allentown. And it's not, I wouldn't say, the most happening metropolis. Like, is it Philadelphia? No. But I had a wonderful time. I had a great time. I thought Brew Daddy's was great. Shout out to everyone there. Chris, the bartender who's a regular listener and all of our fans and all the staff there who made it a great time. I thought PPL Center was fun. The games were a great time. Went over, saw Beetlejuice, had some time to kill after checkout on Saturday before the game. - Cool. Beetlejuice. - Yeah, Beetlejuice too. - Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. - I'm not doing that. - I will. (laughing) Like had a nice lunch over there. Saw a move like, I thought it was fine. It was, in terms of minor league towns, I don't see how you could do back as Hershey, at Green Park, but like a lot of chocolate. - Yeah. But like, I thought it was completely acceptable. - I don't know what Alexi Colesop's problem is quite honestly. - He got to ask him. Except he can't. - Yeah. - Because he's not here. - And he can't speak English. - Could speak English. - He's not here. - But the reason we were in Allentown and thanks to all of our diehards who won tickets who came out, that was a great time as well. The reason we were there was for the rookie series, Charlie. Flyers lose game one and a shootout for three. But headline is, Maffet Mishkov scores his first exhibition goal as a Philadelphia flyer. - Sure did. - And then without him. So trade him, I guess. On Saturday, they win three, two, and over time on a Tuamala's winner. She's over all impressions of the weekend and then we'll get into some guys specifically. - Well, you made the joke about they lost with Mishkov. To be clear, they played way, way better on Friday. - They didn't all Saturday. - Consider it way better. - Yes. - They played like crap for most of Saturday's game. My biggest takeaway, and Mishkov did some impressive things, but I don't know what my expectations were. I don't know how he could have, like, when you're up here, like to be blown away, like he'd actually have to, like, blow up the building. Like, I don't know. Like, it would have to be something insane for him to actually blow me away. It was on Saturday when I saw the almost exact same team without him that I was like, "Oh, right. Okay. He was clearly one of the best guys out there." He was one of the most poised guys. - Right. So I think we're definitely better on Friday. - I'm actually curious, because I don't know. I'm surprised. I was surprised when I read the outline that you came away disappointed, because I didn't, and maybe the discrepancy here is that I didn't come in with the expectation. We discussed this, like, way too much last week. I didn't come in with the expectation that he's already an elite NHL player. Maybe you did. That probably plays into why I came away being like, "Yeah, he was great." And you're like, "Yeah, he was all right. I guess." - No, no, no. It wasn't that he was just all right. It was like, I guess I probably just expected Mario. - Okay. - Like, first three shifts, three goals. - Okay. - And it was like, wasn't that. But, like, it sounds as if he didn't create chances. It's not as if when he was out there. It wasn't very clear. He was on the ice. Like, he did some stuff that was very, very impressive, some slick little things. I thought the thing that stood out most to me about him. Like, in the three-on-three, his first shift, I thought he was lost in space a lot. Maybe, you know, he just, it's chemistry. It's code. Like, they haven't done this together before. But I thought some of his coverage was weird. He just kind of looked lost. Every time he was in tight, especially with the puck, I was like, "Oh, wow. This guy's like, he's something." That was really my big deal. The big space game. Yeah, that's going to take some time, maybe. And he's going to be a highlight real player at some point in his career, and that'll really stand out. But some of the little things he was doing out there, I was like, "This dude is freaking good." And then on Saturday without him, I was like, "Oh, yeah. It's, it was a night and day performance for the Phantom. I thought between Friday and Saturday." And it was, they were not the same team. And there was a, there were a few differences. Like, Bjarniss had only played, it was just period. And then he came out to not play the second. Bjarniss didn't play the second. He's obviously one of their top prospects. But it was considerably different without him. He was very, very good. I thought the big, big discrepancy between the two games. And I truly do. Because 5 on 5, look, Mitch Gough got a lot of ice time. They double shipped him in the third period of Friday's game. But he's only on one of four lines. It's not like you can just say, "Well, he was the reason why they were good at 5 on 5 on the front Friday." And they were bad at 5 on 5 on Saturday. That was not the reason. There were other reasons. There were other lines, other guys that did not play as well on Saturday as they played on Friday. And they were guys who didn't play with Mitch Gough. So I'm not going to totally put that on the absence of Mitch Gough. What I will say is that the power play. Oh my God. The power play on Friday looked legitimately functional. It's just the first time I've seen a power play with players wearing fliers, logos, looked functional in like four years. And then on Saturday, it was right back to everything I watched last year. And to me, that was entirely because Friday they had Mitch Gough and Saturday they didn't. No, Saturday I was like, I was there with Ava Saturday. We were running on the glass. And it was much more of a relaxed. I'm not really going to tweet all that much sort of thing. Like Mitch Gough's not playing. The building has half as many people in it. Yeah. But it was, I think on maybe their second power play. I was just like, yeah, that's the fliers power play again. It's back because they hadn't the power play goal that Mitch Gough scored on Friday. It was a five on three. But yeah, I'm not even totally. Yeah, five on three. I guess last year's fires couldn't score them anyway. But five on three, you expect them to create and hopefully score. But even a five on four on Friday, even when they didn't score, they looked dangerous. They would create. They created some chances. Then they had the six on five goal. Like, yes, they did some things when they were in the offensive zone that you were like, well, this is very much what the fliers need. Yeah, like the guy who could do this and he's doing it. Listen, it's against the Rangers rookies too. It's not elite NHL talent, obviously. But again, we're looking for anything in terms of fixing this power play. We're looking for literally anything. What else stood out to you other than, I mean, the difference of with and without Mitch Gough, the difference of Friday versus Saturday, they were clearly much better even in the loss on Friday. And the game stuff that really stuck out. Well, let's start with Mitch Gough. Obviously. Let's just do Mitch Gough. That's why people are here. I think there's other things too. Like, I want to talk about Jet Luchenko. I want to talk about some of the other forwards, some of the defensemen. There's other. I want to talk about Carson Bjarnesen. It's either he was really good. But Mitch Gough was the story of Friday. He played one of the two games. It was the first time he was in a formal game situation wearing a flier jersey. He's the reason why people came up. He's the reason why we gave up tickets, where we gave out tickets. To me, the most impressive part about Mitch Gough's game on Friday was the passing. When he had the puck, you just expect it. And it would be very quickly from the midpoint of the first period on. You would just expect he was going to make the right decision. And not just the right decision, the best decision. He was making moves with the puck. And I made this point about Chocolaturier before I made it a ton with Chocolaturier. Where when you watch games from up top, you can usually see what a player should do before he does it. And it's not because you are a hockey genius. It's because it's very obvious. It's very much easier to see it when you're watching from above. Everything looks slower. And it just, if you have a baseline level hockey knowledge, you can see like, oh, that guy's open. That guy's not. That guy's going to be open in about a half a second. He should do that play. What I love about the really smart players is that you see what play he should make, and he makes a better one. Yeah. He makes a play you didn't even see. And there were multiple times in this game where Michkop made a play with the puck that I would not have even thought was an option. And then it's like, it becomes a scoring chance because Michkop saw something that, even with the benefit of being up top, I didn't see. And that really impressed us. There was one out front to Luchenko that I still, maybe it didn't. I still don't know how he scored. There was like, I put me out. I could have had two or three assists. Oh, yeah. A hundred percent. Very easily. I was, it showed to me we, it was the show you weren't on. It's a Thursday, the first all night stay of work. You can't. And we showed the 2-1-1 spinarama pass he used. And you look at that, and as just an outside observer, you go, oh, he's just, that's him, man. He's a flashy guy. Same thing like he pulls the Michigan in stuff and it's really, he sees this more efficient way to get the puck, whether it's taking a shot or setting someone else up. He creates this play. Like he uses, it's not just to be flashy. It's very much a functional. Well, I'm behind the net and I can just pick it up and put it in. If I do this spin, suddenly I'll have an extra foot and a half to get this pass on the angle it needs to go. And it's not like he did that in the game, but the slickness with the puck movement for a guy who we've said, he's out there to score goals. Like his primary, I am going on the goal. Yeah, and we saw it like I am going to put this in the net. His primary focus is like I'm going to score. He was able to, whether it was taking shots himself and he could have had a couple himself or with some very slick passes, like you said, efficient, like seeing stuff that most guys don't see. He was a better playmaker than I expected. And that's, for a team that's, I knew it was going to be good because he's just a really good player. But I just kind of was wondering, especially in his first game, he knows why everyone's there. Maybe he wants to do more, he wants to be a little bit more, oh, and tip it where it's like, you know what I'm doing. But it wasn't. It was whatever's open, man. If the shot's there, I'm taking it. And if I think I could thread a pass, I'm actually, I'm absolutely going to try to get it over there. And he was very good at both of those things. Yeah, I was really excited how quickly the hockey IQ, the passing, how quickly that transit, it basically took him about seven minutes to figure out everything. And then from that point on, he looked every bit of what I expected him to look like in that game. And this is important to point out. This was against rookies and prospects and camp invites. The Rangers do not have a great prospect pool anyway. Some of their best prospects weren't even in this game. Like, Perot was not in this game because he's in college still. So this was not high end competition. But as we talked about last week, like, it would have been concerning if he didn't look this good because this isn't high end competition yet. And he did look that good. And that's just a box check. It's like, oh, yeah. Okay. So he can still do it against this group. Now in a week, we'll see him in his first preseason game against all guys who are a little bit more pro ready, if not pros. Yeah. Then further into preseason, we're going to see him against almost entirely protein NHL play in regular season. We're going to see him against regular season final rosters that we're going to see. But this was a box that he checked and he checked it in ways that seem sustainable. Like he played the things he was really good at in this game are things that I fully expect he will continue to be really good at even as the competition increases the vision, the anticipation, the willingness. This was big. I loved the willingness, not that he was throwing hits. But he was willing to battle. He was willing to shake off checkers on the goal. He knew he was getting bulldozed and it didn't matter. It was just not putting the puck in the net. And if I get knocked over after I put the puck in the net, it's worth it because I put the puck in the net and he gets up. He does the big celebration, but he had some really fantastic work behind the net with guys on top of him. You could see, you know, we talked about how he's beefy up in the upper body. He showed it and say what you will about the talent level on that Rangers roster. It might not have been the most talented team. It was a big team. They were, that was so Friday night, I'm in the sixth row. Saturday, I'm on the glass. Those dudes were freaking gigantic. Yeah. That Edstrom guy. It's quite large. But the Rangers have like, no, the Rangers have like five dudes who are like at least six, four, six, five. Yep. They have some monsters out there. And no, that's, and that's something I want to talk about with Emil Andre that was really impressive as well. But those are the guys that were leaning on him. Yeah. And like, no, they're not NHLers. But if you're six foot seven, it's going to be hard to play against them regardless, especially when you're in a small area where you can't use your speed and skill necessarily to just put the puck through his legs. Yeah. Those guys on top of him and he's still making plays and making passes to Jet Luchenko and setting up scoring chances. Those are the types of things where you're like, okay. And that's what he's still going to be able to do when it becomes October 15th rather than September 15th. And that's what, like when you said the, the sustainable, the things he excelled at looked sustainable. Yeah. It's not as if he was just abusing some seventh rounder who ain't going to, who's going to play in the ECHL out there. Like, oh yeah, he poked it through his legs, took it on a breakaway and scored twice that way. Like it wasn't that. Yeah. It was the thing that really stuck at the small area game fighting through contact, all those little things. Um, something else. I know we've joked like, oh, he's working on his English. And if he attacks it the way he attacks the netman, he'll be fluent in like December. He was really talkative out there. Directing traffic at face offs, just talking to his teammates. We've said, you know, hockey language, somewhat universal. Like you go stand over there. It means the same thing in every language. Yeah. Yeah, there. But he was definitely not a like social passenger. You know, he's not going to be. He's, he's take charge even though he doesn't know any of these guys for real. I mean, he's been on the ice with them some. More of the NHL guys, really. But he's been on the ice with some of these guys and they've had informal practices. They started on the ice on Thursday at rookie camp, but he doesn't know these dudes. And we've said they don't have anyone who speaks Russian. Um, he seemed to get along like he seemed to be able to communicate with them just fine. I will say number one, it was a great time. And I did an interview. This is actually on all PHLY.com. Definitely check it out. I did a feature primarily on Igor Zumul about his growing friendship with mop by Mitch cop. I'm really proud of the piece. Highly recommend you check it out. It's for diehards only. So it's just another reason for you to become a diehard. Great sell. But, but one thing that Zumul did say is that hockey is the universal language. I'm not concerned about that. He's going to find ways to talk to his line mates in a way that everyone can understand because it's hockey. It'll be fine. However, I am fascinated to see how this is all going to play out in NHL games because here's the thing in rookie camp. And I'm not saying everybody was like this. Emil Andre, for example, and I like this about Emil Andre. When we interviewed him, we asked him about Mitch cough and he basically said that super competitive and I love that. I'm super competitive too. He didn't seem starstruck around Mitch cough. It's just like, oh yeah, another guy who I think I'm an NHL player. He's an NHL cow player. Cool. We've talked to guys and they seem legitimately starstruck about this guy where it's like, yeah, he's he's going to be a star and I'm I'm just trying to make it as a pro. Holy crap. This is so cool. Those are the kind of guys where if he tells, you know, one of them to go in that spot, they're going to do it. If he tries to do that game to in the NHL, I'm not saying that players are going to have a problem with it. I'm just going to see what the reaction is going to be. If he tells Sean Victoria to go there, you know, and that may be where it's like, you might need more communication. So after the game, they can say, well, I was seeing this. Yeah. So I wanted you to go there. Yeah. He's like, well, I saw something else, but then being like Sean Victoria, perfect example. We have no idea where he is like health skill wise, you know, what he's going to be able to actually execute out there. But he didn't have a traumatic brain injury. You know, he still thinks the game at a very high level. I'm thinking, like we've said, maybe he plays. Maybe Mischkov plays with Frost and you have that playmaker with the goal score and they can kind of, like, that'll sit. Okay. And then we'll be able to see what Frost really has because we'll have a line mate who's better than all that stuff. But especially for this time, maybe Sean Victoria is the best possible line mate because they can kind of speak the same language, not Russian, but hockey. Yeah. I'm just saying that it's good because I very much noticed that. I noticed that Mischkov was directing traffic. He was before the face off telling people where to go. And part of this too is that they didn't really practice the power play much. It's not like they have systems. So he was more or less creating a system on the fly because what else were they going to do? They did a little bit of practicing of the power play at morning skate on Friday, but nothing serious. Whereas in the NHL, they're going to have a power play system. They apparently have a power play coach in Rocky Thompson. So they're going to have things they are told to do. So he's not going to be drawing up a play like you're playing football on the beach in the same. But I am interested to see what is going to happen when Mischkov sees something and he probably will actually see it. It won't be him BSing. It's, hey, I'm a hockey genius and I saw this. And he tells Joel Faraby or he tells Tyson Forrester. He tells Garnet Hathaway what to do. Like these are guys that have been in the league for a while. And they have, I mean, and I don't think they're bad guys. I don't know any of them are, but you're a professional hockey player. You got an ego. You know, you think you're the shit. You have to think that if you're an NHL player, you have to believe that you are good at what you do. And if Mischkov is going to come in and tell them, no, you should do this because I say so, even though I'm 19 and have played three NHL games, I'm just curious. See how it's going to be received by his teammates. And it's like in the position he was in, especially on Friday, like, it's a bunch of guys who he's better than. And obviously, and like on the power play, especially, he's the point guard, right? He should be directing track. He is setting the thing up. He is telling everyone what's going to work for him. And he and Loperi are straight up said before the game. Mischkov is going to run the power. Well, who else? But apparently there was a moment. I missed this, but I think someone in the stadium put this in our discord. There was apparently a moment where he got caught yelling at Solku of basically like barking at him back at the bench. Kind of like, you know, who knows if he was saying it in the little English he knows or Russian, but it was clear he was frustrated that Solku was largely playing the net front spot on that power play didn't do what he wanted him to do or what he saw. And again, fine, but also it'll be interesting when that guy is Travis connected. It will. 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And sometimes you just can't take the preventative steps like staying inside. You know, you go to Rite Aid reward. You sign up for Rite Aid's rewards emails at Rite Aid dot com slash rewards. They tell you, man, pollen alerts. It's going to be high. Maybe, maybe stay inside. It's like, well, pretty nice day. Want to go have some brunch? Well, you got to stop by your local Rite Aid trip. Check out some of their over the counter options. Like a nasal wrench to help flush out your nasal passages. And when symptoms are flaring or when you know that pollen counts are high, try any histamines like, uh, clariton or Rite Aid brand clariton. Same thing, a little bit cheaper or the Zertech or Rite Aid brand as well. Uh, sometimes you want to save a little money. You can do that with the Rite Aid brands and one to two weeks before pollen allergies are expected to be high. You can always try nasal corticose steroids. Like fluenase or nasal cort. Also both available in Rite Aid brands. Still not enough relief. You still have questions. Ask a Rite Aid pharmacist if a different type of allergy medication like a decongestant might be necessary. And you can always ask your Rite Aid pharmacist for recommendations on ways to get relief during allergy season. All right, Chuck. Um, did Mitch come off? You said they were double shifting him in the third. Yeah. So perhaps just tired. Looked a little uncomfortable. I was a little scared. So you tweeted that out. I heard the hell out of everyone. I didn't notice anything. He went into the boards at one point and was kind of favoring his shoulder a little bit. Okay. And then after that, he was just bent over a couple of times, but that could just be tired. What I can tell you is that he practiced on Sunday. He practiced on Monday. So if he got banged up a little bit, he's fine. Listen, it's a contact sport. It's fine. Getting hit hurts. Yeah. That hurt my shoulder. I did see you tweet that during the game. I didn't notice it. I guess everyone is just a little on edge. I mean, he's the only guy I'm watching. Like I'm not looking at the game. He's on the ice. I saw him going to the boards and I saw him come back to the bench a little uncomfortable. And then as he's out there, I'm like, just doesn't. And in fairness, you had a better view of the bench than me. I was on the side of the bench. Yeah. So you can only basically see the nameplates and their back of their heads. You were actually looking at the place. He was right here for me. Yeah. And I was like, Oh, okay. And I'm like watching the game at that point. Oh, is he okay? Yeah. Then you were. And I think he was. It was just like looked a little uncomfortable. But we're going to do this because he is quite important to this whole thing. He's the whole thing. He's the whole thing. He's the whole thing. And we're going to overreact to every single problem. But it seems as if everything was okay. I may have been a little alarmist. I'm sorry. Flyers Twitter. If I scared everyone out there, but it's what I saw. I think you might have given people a couple, a couple hard. One thing I do couple hard attacks. One thing I want to mention though about Mitch golf because this probably was my biggest pleasant surprise about Mitch golf in this game because the passing, you know, I've seen it. I've seen his his vision, his anticipation, his hockey IQ, the nose for the net. I've seen it. The physicality. I think he's a bit stronger now, but he's always played with that, that edge, that dog in a bone kind of mentality. So none of that was surprising to me. What did jump out at me? Honestly, he looks more than a half step quicker than he did last year. He like, no, he was not as good of a skater as Jet Luchenko who is a bullet. The name jet, it is extremely appropriate. Everyone saw that. But Mitch golf looked quick and I've always thought the skating knock was overblown on him, but you watched him in the KHL last year and there were absolutely times where he looked sluggish. It very much seems like that was a product of the pneumonia because he looked much quicker in this game than he looked through large portions of cage. No, like obviously. And and Jet Luchenko is going to beat him in a race. You know what he is? That is his thing. It's why he got drafted where he got drafted. It is his speed. That said, there were plenty of times like, oh, he's stride for stride with him. There were plenty of times. Mitch golf was the first one in the zone. He went into the corner. Like he was winning races. I was definitely. That was something I noticed. Like, oh, yeah, like when Chancos faster because that's if he wasn't, he wouldn't be here, but he wasn't so much faster. I was like, Oh my God, Mitch Cob is slow. I never thought Mitch cob looks slow. Not not even a single time. I went into this game thinking at least to start his career and maybe, you know, as he gets on an HL weight plan, everything like that, maybe he will get a little bit quicker. But my assumption going into this game was he'll probably start on his NHL career and he'll be about an NHL average skater. His edges will be better than average. His quickness. The first step might be good, but overall NHL average. I came into this game thinking, you know, he might be day one and above average NHL skater. And that was more than I expected to see going into this game. He impressed me. The skating ability to me was the only surprise based on what I saw from him last year. And again, in retrospect, that was probably driven a lot by the fact that he wasn't 100% because he had pneumonia. He couldn't breathe. Yeah, exactly. When you have pneumonia, like walking from your bedroom to the bathroom is really, really difficult. I can't imagine playing professional hockey. And also, I guess, I mean, I'm sure that played into it also. We all saw the clips and videos and images on Instagram this summer. He worked out a lot. He's working, man. So maybe he's worked. He has just gotten quicker because he's lower body is stronger. He's done exercises. He's worked on that. And maybe this is just, you know, 18 and 19 year old Mafé Mitch golf just got half step quicker by working his tail off. Absolutely possible. We've always said, like, one of the reasons we think him and Torrella aren't going to clash the way some people do is they're going to see the competitor. He's going to see the work ethic. And like he rewards those things. And he just happens to also have incredible skill. So it's like, yeah, he works like Ryan Poehling. And then scores. That sounds like something he's going to like. But yeah, that really stood out to me. But it's, I've always liked, like, I'm glad you pointed out the edge work because his ability to fight through contact. And like I said, the small area game and just bounce. I guess bounce is what I'm trying to, like, that's always been fine. It's literally like just the speed, the jump. Yeah. And if he has a little bit of that, then he is a very good, if not very good, at least fine skating. Yeah. Yeah. There was one sequence. I think it was in the first period. It was pretty early in the game that really jumped out of me. And this isn't even just skating. This is, again, the hockey IQ element. He took a pass in the neutral zone in a spot where most players would have stopped and just surveyed and decided what they were going to do. He took the, he took the pass in motion, kept moving, maneuvered a little bit, and then in motion, sent a pass down the ice, which sent to his teammates. And I believe on a two on one. And it was, it was just very fluid. And number one, it showed his hockey IQ because it allowed him to create separation from the checker to give him more space to make the pass, and to give his line mates a chance to get down the ice so he could lead them. But it also showed the skating ability because he had the ability to separate with the skating ability, with the edge work, with the lateral movement. It was a very impressive play that didn't create, you know, didn't create a goal. Wasn't going to get him an assist, but jumped out at me as a hockey play. That's my famous golf. I'll tell you what I'm really looking forward to this season. Everyone knows. I really love Charlie's work. I think your exes and owes video stuff is some of the best stuff in all of hockey. And I think we're going to have some help on that this year from Petey from from the former Phoenix Coyotes, Arizona Coyotes outstanding. He's going to do some help on that front. So hopefully we'll have a little bit more of that this year. Just because we actually have a guy who it's, this is going to be fun. Yeah. Like the videos are good. I can't wait. Oh, yeah. Like, listen, the Shonkatori, like that, I learned so much about hockey reading your early Shonkatori stuff. Like, look at what he did, the neutral zone here. Just open things up. This is going to be like, and then he put, he put the puck in the net. It's going to be so much freaking fun. But I think that it will mostly do it for Mitch Cobb today. Yeah. We've got a lot of other players to talk about. I've played in these two games up in Allentown on Friday and Saturday. And a lot of them look quite good. They did. I was impressed by more for someone who's down overall on the quality of prospects, impressed by what I saw especially Friday. Yeah. I do want to get, at the end, I want to get to an interesting comment we got from Brent Flair on Sunday about the negatives. And I want to theorize this with you since you saw both games as well. You were there. But before we get to the negatives, let's talk about the good. Guys, there was a lot of good aside from Mitch Cobb. This part of the outline is titled Guys I Like. Guys, I Like. That's literally, and I really would have started with someone I didn't expect to be starting with Carson Bjarnison. Really? Yeah, he had a really good game. I was too really good. I just poised and a rebound vacuum. Yeah. He was just in the right spot and very much like if it was in the glove, he squeezed it. If it was in front of him, he got on top of it. He seemed to just eat up rebounds and didn't, never looked panicked, never looked out of position. I was just very, very happy. Considering we've talked about Carson Bjarnison and he's one of these prospects that they're like, trust us. We see something. Yeah. And it's like, well, his numbers are bad. We see something. And it's, I see it too. And it's hard for people to do that when you're dealing with an organization that has been mediocre to bad for, it's been bad for the last few years. Yeah. It's been mediocre for like over a decade. Yeah. It's hard for people to just take it on faith that no, you know, we're right about this guy. The numbers, I know you haven't watched it that much. Trust me, he'll be good. It's hard to take them on faith, especially when, and this is something I said to you off air. If anything, and I, at Development Camp, I do my big stories on Dev Camp. I do. I do the stories because I really enjoy it. It's the first time you get to see a lot of these guys really up close because I'm covering the team. I'm not following prospects around. I'm not watching tape like the real prospect crazy people are. I just don't have the time. I'm covering a hockey team. So I get to see people up close in the development camp. I do my analyses, but generally speaking, if a guy looks really bad at Dev Camp, I usually don't bury him for it because my thing is number one, they're just kids. Number two, they might have been working on something the entirety of Dev Camp. I don't want to say this guy stinks because he wasn't good. Even if it turns out that the entire time actually he was working on one specific skill and that he hasn't mastered. And actually the flyers were perfectly happy with the fact that he struggled because they know what the point of that camp was for him. So I try to avoid being mean to guys at development camp. Carson Bjardsson was really bad at development camp. And I think most of the people who went to development camp came away, especially from the scrimmage thinking, oh God, this guy looks like a bust. He stunk. He was bad. And I came away from that development camp thinking, oh boy, like they might have blown this pick. He went to the World Junior Showcase for Team Canada in Plymouth in August. I did not watch basically any of it. I saw some clips, but I did not watch it. Everyone I talked to that did watch it said he was very good. And he was one of the better goals. It was like interesting because a couple weeks before that he was looked like a guy with an ECHL goalie ceiling. He looked terrible. I can see why he looked good in Plymouth. Because so far at this camp, he has been one of the four or five most impressive players in this rookie camp. And in the games, I think you could make the case not over Mitch Koff, probably not over Luchenko. You can make a strong case. He was the third most impressive flyer in these two rookie games over the, uh, over the weekend. He was surprisingly good just because, listen, it's, it's a goalie that they drafted a year ago. I have no idea. Second round pick. Second round pick that like you see his numbers and brand didn't you know? Yeah. And Brandon is a bad team. They're bad. Exactly. You don't give him a lot of help. But everything I heard and then it was cemented by what I saw in the development camp was that it wasn't just the team. He was very inconsistent. He would have a good period and then a terrible period. He would give up really weak goals that, yeah, there's, there's a base athleticism and talent level there. But he is nowhere near putting it all together. And I think the flyers know he's nowhere near putting it all together, but it's been really cool over these last couple of days. And I'm even including the practice. I'm including the camp days Thursday, Friday, Sunday today. He looks good. He's up to six foot four now. I guess he gained an inch over the summer. Yes. You're so he's tall. He's got the athleticism. I totally agree with you that the rebound control was strong. There were very few times he gave up a bad rebound. Yeah. He was swallowing pucks. And from what I taught, from what I heard from Brent Flair when I talked to him in early September, that's a lot of what they told him was just you have all this natural ability. You have the size. You have the athleticism. Play your strength. Stop putting yourself. Don't try to be something you're not. And it seems like he may. It may be clicking for him. That's exciting. I was, we, we both agree. They played much better Friday, but you said like, oh, yeah, it took like Michkop seven minutes maybe to figure it all out. The first six, seven, ten minutes of the first period on Friday was spent primarily in the fliers. It sure was. And this game could have been three nothing. Sure could have been. And he played really well to keep it able to eventually get to overtime. And he, and he did the same thing on, on the first period. On Saturday in the first period, because the fliers were terrible in the first period. And what they did, I think they didn't give up a goal. They didn't give up their first goal in the second. He shot them out in the first period. And they spent probably 70% of that period in the fly or so. All right. And Bjarnsson was great. Had a great game at two, two great games, four great periods. Four periods. Well, five if you count overtime and overtime. Yeah, overtime. Let's go to J.E.T.T. jet jet jet jet jet. Luchenko speed as advertised. He's not small. He's a big guy. He's about average, average, average, average, average, average. But he's strong. Yes. Very, the way he held up in battles and stuff. Yeah. Like for a dude who is basically, you know, would be starting his senior year of high school. Yeah. He just turned 18. He turned 18 in August. Yeah. Like pretty impressive stuff for him, I thought. Not maybe Mitch Cobb, but we never, you know, Mitch Cobb's a pro already. There were times. They were not right with him. Insignificant amount of people in my mentions, especially on Friday, probably through the first two periods. The third period was when Mitch Cobb really became Mitch Cobb. Yes. He would every single shift. He was doing crazy stuff. And I think that chatter died down a bit after the third. Through the first two periods, I had a lot of people I mentioned saying Luchenko looks better than Mitch Cobb. I don't, I think Mitch Cobb was the best player of the weekend. But Luchenko pops, and he's, he's, look, he's always going to pop because of the skates. Yes. And if you are someone, we talked about this last week, if you are someone who is purely going by the eye test of like, who made me jump out of my seat the most, the guy who's the fastest skater is going to do that exponentially more than pretty much everybody else because fast skating is very noticeable. Yeah. You see it like, oh, he just, that guy's behind him now. Yeah. It's very obvious, but like for people who have been dying for this team, like going back to freaking Alexander Dagg when we were children, Charlie, like, can we please just get faster? Oh, we are as mockers and grinders. We're trying to forward check. Can we just win a race? All six foot four centers that can't escape. Like, you know what? Jen is going to do? Win a lot of races. Oh, yes. He is going to be a, um, we compared him a little bit, I think to, to, uh, for a check, like a week ago. Did you? No, I will. I feel like he doesn't have the size. Just the ability to create zone entries. I feel like we talked about. I think he could be a zone entry machine if he develops his instincts a little bit more because sometimes he takes bad routes and you saw that occasionally. Sometimes he fumbled the puck away and got knocked away for him. There, there were moments. The reason why I very much contend that you can't argue that Michael was better than Mitch Kopp is because Mitch Kopp probably, if he, if he had 50 puck touches, he did the right thing on 45. Whereas Luchenko did the right thing on 30. There was, oh, yeah. He doesn't. He at this point, clearly nowhere near the offensive or just puck decision instincts. Yeah. Matt Bay, Mitch Kopp. But like, that's why people think Matt Bay, Mitch Kopp was going to call there was closer to one than he was to three, you know, in terms of guys who should have been drafted if you were just going on pure talent in his draft year. Yeah. I was impressed, though, by I was happy that the, the hands thing like, all right, he's, he doesn't have stone hands. No, he definitely doesn't. Okay. No. It was just one of those things that came out of dev camp. Like, oh, man, he loses the puck a lot. And like he did lose the puck. He didn't have some bubbles. But he also did a lot of things with the puck too. He also, like, it wasn't just that. And I think that's the, that's the conundrum with Jaluchenko. And this is something I noticed dating back to my draft research before the fliers took it, is that it's not that he can't make plays with the puck. He does sometimes is that he doesn't do it consistently. And the fliers in him see a guy who will start doing it consistently, give him a couple more years, and he's going to, instead of making the correct pass, the really good pass, three times out of 10, he's going to make it seven times out of 10. And then suddenly he's a top six, if not top line caliber center. Yeah. That's what they think. Other people watch him and they're like, yeah, speed's great. Strength. He's got the instincts. He plays a smart game. But the puck skills are spotty. And in this game, they were spotty. But when he does the right thing, he really does the right thing. And that's because of that inconsistency. Like you watch him play. And I think this is a conversation that you've had. And we'll have it plenty as main camp begins. And we see a little bit more Jet Luchenko. I think he could hold his own in the NHL. Like not. I top six play. I don't disagree with the actual. I think he could hold his own as a bottom of the line up guy. But I've said a lot of times with guys like Luke Shen. I think there was more there. And they told him, just do that thing you're good at. And he did that thing he was good at and never did anything else. Now it eventually worked out for Shawn Katoria. I think it probably took longer than it would have otherwise. Because Shawn, it was like, man, just check. Just check. And you'll be all right, Shawn. And it took him till he was like 25. Yeah. Like 25. And he started it like two months before he turned 19. You know? And it was, I think that's the conundrum with like, yeah, maybe it would be fun if he made the team got the nine game trap. But for his overall development as much as, yeah, man, I want, I want the new shiny toy. And I want him to make the team because we got to do, you know, 82 plus, plus preseason post games, probably like, I want to do this stuff. But I think it might actually make sense for him to do that, dominate your level thing. Yeah. That's where I'm at. I think that he could, if you wanted him to, he could hold his own as a third line. Checking center who does, because he was great. I thought five on five, he was mostly good, made some mistakes, did a lot of good things. I thought on the penalty kill, he was a criminal. Yes. Like he could be a really good penalty killer in the NHL right now, I think. I think the speed, the physicality, the willingness to mix it up, the ins, the defensive instincts, he'd be a good penalty killer in the NHL right now. And if you were, if the Flyers were a Stanley Cup contending team right now, I would be like, get him on this team. He's going to be Ryan McLeod for you and let him be, let him get 12 minutes a night, play a role and over time, hopefully he'll grow into being a more, a bigger offensive threat. Flyers are nowhere near a Stanley Cup team. And because of that, I would rather him go down to the go down to the OHL where there's way more space and he can foster the creative parts of his game because I don't want him to just top out as Ryan McLeod as a good third line center. I want him to top out as a really good top six center. And if best case scenario, he ends up being a one C, that's the dream. I don't know if he has that ceiling, but I want to give him every opportunity to try to foster his creativity and his puck skills to get to that point. And if he doesn't, I don't want to think six years down the road that man, if they wouldn't have rushed him to the NHL, who knows what Jett Luchenko would have become. I don't think there is any incentive really to rush him to the NHL. And I thought Brent Flair on Sunday put a lot of cold water on that idea. I straight up asked him and I went into that press conference. That was one of the reasons why I wanted to get Brent Flair on Sunday. I wanted to ask him about this Jett Luchenko thing. Is there a chance he gets the nine game trial? He basically said, look, can't rule anything out. I want him to be pushing for it because I want him to be motivated this camp, but it's a big stretch to think he's making this team this year. I can't see a scenario where he makes his team, even for the nine game audition. I just don't see it. I know that was chatter on Twitter and I get it. Yeah. He's an exciting player and he looked good, especially on Friday, especially with Mitch coffee look good. But I don't think this is his time yet. 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Samuel to Amala. Samuel to Amala. I don't know if he was like consistently awesome, but he did some real fun stuff out there. He is creative. He's smart. He's skilled. It might be. Yeah, man. It might be a whole nother year, but there's something there. He is very, very skilled. There is absolutely something there. One thing that I found fascinating was that I came away from Friday's game, feeling really good about Samuel to him. I thought he was one of the better players in the ice. Ian LaPairier was nowhere near as impressed. Ian LaPairier basically said, yeah, he did some good things. He did some things I really didn't like though. He said that before Saturday's game. So I watched him closer in Saturday's game because I'm like, hey, I watched the guy on Friday. He's off to a really good start to this camp Saturday, you watch him closer. Yeah, there's there's things he needs to clean up. One thing that that Lappy said today, because we didn't get him on Sunday back in Voorhees. We talked to Fred Flair. Today, we got Lappy. Lappy said something interesting, and I do think that to Amala has improved in this area relative to where he was right after being drafted, the early viewings I had of him. But apparently they still think he needs to improve more. He said, one of the big contrast between Mitchkoff and to Amala, and they're not, Mitchkoff is definitely more built in the upper body, but they're not totally dissimilar in terms of body type. They're smallish guys. They're not huge. So the big difference between the two is that when Mitchkoff goes below the goal line in the corners, he goes in with purpose. He goes in, I'm getting that puck. And if he doesn't get that puck, I'm going to helm the guy right, I'm going to helm the guy who does have the puck, and I'm just going to keep pushing and keep trying to get that puck. And he wants that puck, whereas to Amala goes into the corner, he's like, well, if I get the puck, that's great, if not no big deal. They don't like that about it. They want him to play with more consistent compete and more consistent intensity. And I think it's because I don't know if I see a guy into Amala who has the skill to be a top six forward. I think if he makes it, it's going to be probably is like a third line. And if you're playing on the third line, it's a bottom six roll. Yeah, you might see some, some games online too. If you're hot, you're scoring, yeah, then move you up. But if at the end of the year, you're probably, you know, ninth or 10th on the forward minutes per game chart, you're going to have to play with some jam. And I think they want to see him play with some more jam. I thought in, on Saturday's game, like a lot of players in Saturday's game, like a lot of players, his game took a dip. I thought he turned the puck over more. I didn't think he was as strong on the puck as he was on Friday. He didn't have as many flash plays. He had a couple of plays on Friday or he was dangling through the defense and you stood up and you were just like, man, this kid's got some skill. Saturday didn't see that as much. And then unfortunately, and this is something I'm going to be talking about, I talked about in my post practice notes video yesterday, a new post practice notes video on today's practices will be up probably around six ish, I would say. So keep an eye out on our YouTube channel. Hell yeah. It's coming. But some bad news for Tomala, he's been out the last two days. So he scored the game winning goal in overtime of Saturday's game. That was cool. Good job. Well done. Okay. We interviewed him. Seemed fine. Sunday was banged up. They said he was day to day. Today still wasn't out there. So now you're looking at a guy who I thought came into this camp with the possibility of taking a run of the job was okay, but apparently did not impress in the perrier that much in the two games. And this is a guy who coached them last week. He knows. And it's very high. It was very high on him. And then he missed two days practice. He's probably not hitting main camp with a lot of momentum. And I think he needed to hit main camp with a lot of momentum to have real shot. I liked what I saw on him, especially Friday, but it's worth pointing out. I don't think the fliers liked it as much as I did. Someone is speaking and playing with jam. Emile entree. I, you guys with jam. The offensive instincts hit the first pass, like all that stuff is apparent. And you see it and it's like, okay, I get why John Twitter rel last year was like, well, he does something none of our defensemen do. So I need him even though he's not ready. But I got to tell you, there was one shift specifically where he was just battling with a 23 year old. So about 16 months older than him, six foot seven, 240 pound Rangers product prospect Adam and strum. And he was holding his own. He was going toe to toe with this behemoth. He wasn't getting rag to hold. He's giving up 10 inches. Like he was going at him and doing a pretty damn good job at it. And I was like, that's it. Andre is 16 months younger, five, nine, one, eighty nine, 50 pounds and 10 inches. He looked fine in a battle against this guy. Like I was very impressed with the meal, Andre again, obviously the offensive stuff. That's what is going to be his calling card. But you need more than that. Like we saw it with Shane Dosto spare coaches turn on you. If you're just getting ragged all in front of the net. And I don't know if that's ever going to be a male Andre doing what 100 McDonald does. But like his willingness to at least go toe to toe with this giant man who's like, I'm six rows up and he's as tall as I am, like was really, really impressive. Yeah. Andre, I thought was, I wouldn't quite say very good on Friday. But I thought he was, I think he, I think he would have gotten a solid B plus for me on Friday. I thought he had a legitimately good game on Friday. He did a lot of good things with the puck, the compete level was there. He looked good on the power play. I liked his game on Friday, Saturday's game was fascinating because I thought the first two periods, he was trash. I thought he was bad and he ends the second period. And basically he has a really, really weak play on the boards. It's a, it's a, it's a five minute major power play. He pinches down and he just tosses the puck to no one. It goes to a Ranger who then sends another Ranger going down the ice. They score a short end goal. That was on Andre. That was a, that was a lazy play. And I hated that. And I was, I was typing up that intermission. I was typing up a, a scathing article, not, not an article, but like the section on him was like, man, he just didn't have it. And on Saturday it was in it, not embarrassing, but it was, it was a bad showing for him. That third period, he came back and he had one of his best periods of the weekend, especially defensively on Saturday. He made a ton of defensive stops. The compete level was back up. He was deflecting passes. He was breaking up entries. He was everywhere. And then he has a fantastic pass to set up sandwich all my goals goal and overtime for the game winner. He can't have the two periods he had on Saturday if he wants to make the scene. And, and Ian LaPareira said that, he's like, look, he's going to make mistakes. We get that. He can't make as many mistakes if he wants to be an NHL player. But I love the ability to turn the page. I love the fact that whatever he said to himself or whatever the coach has said to him at that second intermission, he was able to reset on the fly and come out and have a great third period. That told me a lot about him mentally, that this kid's got some mental toughness. And I like that. I'd rather him have a great 60 minute game and not have to utilize that. That's a tough this. But I like the fact that he turned it around in, in, rather than just turn two bad periods into three bad periods. And then I write that scathing rip of him in my article. I had to change my entire view of that game and change my entire paragraph of that article to say their period, though. Milandre showed up. I like that. Um, I just want to mention, I know I got, I got, he's going to make your list guys. I liked. Uh, so your Bolton was, I mentioned him in my post practice video yesterday. He had a play in yesterday's practice where he deaped Alexis Gendron out of his skate. So that's a gendron fell down and then Bolton rips one top shelf and the entire bench and team starts going nuts. Everybody's banging their sticks along the boards. He's having a good camp. He really is fun to watch. He's having a good camp. He's definitely a guy that I can see like, yeah, the boys love him. Yeah. He's throwing his body around out there. He contributed a little offensively, which was nice to see. Squirt a goal. Yeah. Great pass of his ab wisdom on Saturday. He set him up. Both guys definitely need a little boost, but I was, I, for someone who I think it was on Friday's show, we were like, listen, Sawyer, Bolton is going to be, you know, I guess people are tweeting you about him and you're like, yeah, whatever, he's going to do stuff. Yeah. He does stuff, right? He's absolutely really fun out there. Well, the thing, I think the reason why number one, he's a physical guy. He fights. He drops the gloves. He hits his father's Eric Bolton, who was an NHL enforcer, so he's got NHL pedigree. Well, you got to remember, though, what's your fault in this? Number one, he doesn't have an NHL contract. He's on an NHL only deal. So for him to even have a chance to make the NHL, he's got to earn an NHL contract. So that's a big thing that he still has to check before we can even talk about him as a potential flyer. Number two, and this is like, look, I know I'm a stack guy, but when a guy had five points in 40 games in his final year in the NHL, like those guys, he's a forward. He's not even a defenseman. Those guys don't have my hand out. They might be basically ever. They might be goalies who ask me. So I just thought he was fun. No, he was he was he was noticeable. He had a good game, especially on Saturday, and he's looked pretty good in for practices. I am not denying that. I'm just saying I'm very skeptical that he has an NHL future, but I will absolutely give him credit. He's noticable. And I thought he played well, especially on Saturday squirt a goal. He's had a good camp. Before you saw her, good job. Before we wrap up today's show, I just want to thank all of our diehards. We could not do what we do here at PHLY without our subscribers. Thank you all so much. Let's do some some quick hits for a couple of players because I think we got a few super chats. Spencer Gill, I just see what you said. I see why you said they see what you see. Like I feel what you feel he might it might be a boat like might be about. I don't know what it was, but I enjoyed watching him. He he did some good things. He had that great play at the end of regulation on Friday to save the empty net goal. That where he goes across it was a two on one with no goalie and he stopped both guys. Yeah, that was a play that was memorable. I thought Gil on the whole had a really good rookie game, but I thought he was solid. Hunter McDonald was whatever. But I really appreciated that anybody who hit one of Hunter McDonald's line mates then had some sort of physical retribution taken out on him. And it did not matter if it was you're gonna get called for interference here. I don't care. Yeah. It was that's under McDonald's. I think my thoughts on Hunter McDonald was he wasn't as good defensively as I thought he was going to be. He showed me more offensively than I thought he would his passing. I thought was better than expected. He was good on the short passes. He had some longer passes. He had one play. I believe it was on Friday where he went end to end and looked pretty good doing it offensively. He showed me more than I expected defensively, you know, physically he's strong, he's physical. He got burned a couple of times a couple more times than I thought I was hoping to see him get burned, and he's got to clean that up because that's going to be his calling card if he makes it. But offensively he showed me more than I expected. No, if your thing is you kill please, when you hit the dude, he needs to be stable to the boards and the puck is there and your teammate comes up behind you and takes the puck the other way. He got to kill all the players. He didn't kill all the players. He did not. What else? You had some, was there anyone else who stood out to you? Do you want to do the negatives or just skip right to the suit? Negative's real quick. Okay. Because I just want to have a little conversation about this. So on Sunday, Brent Flair dropped an interesting little tidbit, which was there were some guys I'm not happy with and we're going to talk to them. This was post rookie games. Who do you think they could be? Because he made it clear. It's like it's not Mitch cough. It's not Luchenko. He liked what he saw from Gill. He straight up said that. I think he liked what he saw from Andre overall. I have a theory as to one guy I think he could have been talking about. He was to him all because to him all lap, he did say, you know, wasn't good enough. I'm curious who you think he could have been talking because it wasn't the Sawyer bowls. It was guys who they have expected. Guys, who they think are going to be somebody. Yes. Um, was it Oliver Mach? I don't think so because I think they love him too much. Okay. They were. Here's my theory, even though he scored a big goal on Friday, I wouldn't be surprised if they were expecting more from Rosa. I also was hoping to put Massimo Rizzo's name on the guys I liked list and he's not here. Um, and he scored the game time goal. Yeah, he did. There was just, I feel like he had a few turnovers in his own end. Yeah. There was just for a guy who we were like, listen, he's a man. Yeah. He's physically ready. If someone's going to make this team as a surprise, it could be him. Uh, he his preseason is going to have to be a whole lot different than that. What that was. I thought in particular with him, I thought that when he was playing the role of center down low in the defensive zone, he did not look good. And I came away from Friday's game, especially thinking, yeah, this guy ain't a pro center. Maybe he's a pro. Wait. I don't think he looked like a pro center. And what do we need? Hey, could you use some sec, especially some skill centers? All right. Let's hit the super chats. Oh, wow. Four of them today. Okay. There were quite a few. Let's get to Gary B. Sometimes the practice yesterday, Charlie was hoping to meet you, but oh, there we go. Was hoping to meet you, but only media was allowed upstairs. Yeah. It looked solid. Yeah. You got to, uh, you got to get a, um, fresh pass. You got to just, they got, they got the little line that goes across the stairs. Yeah. Kind of make a counterfeit laminate to meet Charlie. Because you can see me on the, yeah, on the purse sometimes though, I'm watching wave to not the, not the important perch, but one with torts and all those guys, but the media perch. The one far off to the side. All right. Corey's super chat says, do we think, uh, Mitch outscores, Bedard's rookie season? I know. Bedard missed some time with a broken jaw to get like 61 and 68, something like that. I'm looking up what, cause I don't remember what his point totals were. I believe 61 and 68, 22 goals. So I mean, it'd be if that's about if Mitch golf stays healthy. That's about what I'm expecting his, I know it was juiced a little to the over, but like that. Vegas usually gets this stuff right and it was like 47 and a half. Now for us as Flyers fans, we want more, but like, but Dard's rookie year seems about, if it's more than that, let's go baby. I mean, cause this, this number is 61 and 68. That's close to point per game. If Mitch golf is close to point per game, we're throwing a party here. We are ecstatic for that to be his rookie year at age 19 going into 20. If he plays a two games though, could I see him getting around 60? Yeah, I think that's, that's like a reasonable, reasonably optimistic projection. Say reasonable optimism is like the 60, 65 range. All right. Let's go to for my Stuart Miller, any shop Bjornison makes team Canada for world juniors now. I think it's a very good chance. I think Brent Flair mentioned it in your interview with them. Like it's an outside chance we're hoping like we're hoping it goes that way. Like let me put it this way. And I know Brandon is not a good team. Yeah. If he plays the way he played in those rookie games in Brandon, even if the numbers aren't that good, he's making that team because this Carson Bjornison looks like a stud. Now again, he's inconsistent. Maybe he's having a hot streak at the right time and maybe, but if this is the new normal for him, if he's figured something out, yeah, I think he'll make the team. I think he's in the next. He obviously was at the showcase in Plymouth in August. So he's under consideration, but there are other good goalies under consideration. So he's not a lot. That was. That's the thing. But yeah. Any shot? Absolutely has a shot. It's very much in there. We're talking about team Canada. While every other position, it's like, oh yeah, they have all the best players in the world. Like they've had summits recently, but it's like, why aren't we making goalies anymore? It's very important. So it's not as if there's 12 superstars ahead of him. Yeah. So Carrie Price. Exactly. Let's go to JH says, thanks for hosting a great meetup. I know I was really late, LFG flyers and much among the FETs. There we go. Yeah. We hate the Mets. The new Briera of Orange is here. Yeah. Again, shout out to Bru Daddy's. It was a ton of fun. And thanks for coming out. JH. Thanks for everyone who came out this weekend. It was a great time getting to meet everybody. And finally from Adam S. Besides the meat of his Montreal's prospect pool over rated. Look, I'm not saying I'm an expert on Montreal's prospect pool. I have no idea. Yeah. They have some good prospects. I think Lane Hudson's going to be cool. It sounds like he's really good. Dave Reimacher. I think he was overdrafted at five, but I think he's going to be a rock solid top board defenseman. I don't get the sense people are viewing them as this, you know, the best prospect pool in the league. They think it's a good prospect pool. And I think it is a good prospect pool. I think people's maybe excitement or optimism about it. It's like, and they have good young players in Suzuki and Caulfield too. True. They usually graduated from like prospect rankings, but it's not as if they're 27. True. Yeah. They have a good young guys. They have Logan Maloo who they took in the first rounds, you know, in weird circumstances. My guy, Jack. Oh, Jack. Yeah. He's youngish. They have, they have guys. I don't know where they're ranked. I gather that flyers fans now, especially the ones on Twitter very much do because they're in an open war with Montreal fans. I have not spent that much time getting to know Montreal's prospect system. But I think it's a good prospect. 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