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ABC News was biggest loser from debate, Trump says no to 2nd debate with Kamala
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In the news this morning, flags will fly at half staff in honor of Philadelphia police officer Jamie Roman. He died 80 days after being shot during what was supposed to be a routine traffic stop. So we're hearing more and more about officer Roman, his wife, his young children who he leaves behind 25th district officer. And he's described as somebody who would light up a room, the Philadelphia police officer. He's been on life support and many prayers and vigils for him. He was escorted as I said yesterday morning. His body escorted to a funeral home in the Northeast and we'll be learning more and talking more about those funeral arrangements, but flags will fly at half staff in honor of officer Roman. Yeah. I mean, it's sad that and this is no disrespect, but it's the tragedy that occurs. It's sad that I have to know the names of Stephanie Mack, Marissa Fitzgerald. And now the widow of this slain officer who, you know, fought for his life for almost three months after that coward did what he did. It's awful. Mayor Cheryl Parker speaking out saying it means we have to continue to work as hard as we possibly can to make sure the public health and safety of our city is our number one priority and I shall not be moved. The declaration from hers, they've all, they've ordered the flags to fly at half staff. A Pennsylvania man making national news accused of drugging and then sexually assaulting at least six female victims, including a teenager according to investigators. He's ID as 40 year old Andrew Gallo of Copper Beach Lane in Bristol Township facing a list of charges, but the bottom line here is that he was meeting these victims on various sites. He went by Druster for 20 and the website was sugar daddy meat and so a warning going out about these sites that advertise, you know, wealthy older men, men looking for legitimate respectful hookups with, you know, younger women looking for companionship. So the word is the victims ranging in age from 17 to 30, according to the Bucks County DA's office. He's accused of drugging these women. So putting in beverages and food apparently and heavily drugging them and then they were strangled to the point of being of going unconscious and horribly assaulted. Wow. That's just awful. Absolutely awful, soccer is always about the eye for an eye punishment. Why don't we drug this guy for some to watch a jets game with Phil and throw him in the can. That's your form of torture for him to watch a jets game. That's our torture. What are these sites you go on and soccer wants the actual web. You go to the site sugar daddy meat dot com sugar daddy meat dot com that's that's what I'll meet like me eat meat like a meat yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. This is why we need to go vegan just curious and just curious just terrible so like older men go on there looking for, you know, younger ladies and younger ladies like this is this will definitely be the key to me not having to work anymore. Yeah, the stock are making it about the female. Come on. I'm just I'm just saying that the sites are yeah because you never know which which individual on there is actually a sugar daddy there for said well yeah that too but you know sinister intentions and the psychos that strangle a woman most most quote unquote sugar daddy's are probably not on this website. There you go. That's true. They're in politics. Greg soccer your sugar daddy advice. Thank you baby. Yeah, also I mentioned Mayor Cheryl Parker. There was this huge turnout last night for the mayor's town hall that on this proposed 76ers arena meeting started late because hundreds of people showed up aligned to get inside wrapped around the building overflow rooms were available. So a lot of passion here as they're you know the mayor's argument and many who support this say hey most you know look at how many NBA teams have their arena right in the heart of their center city and that this would be good for the city however those many many members of China town say would destroy their culture and really destroy the town. So they're they're trying to you know come together on this the mayor pushing for this. Yeah, I'm kind of torn on it from the standpoint of I hate the entire complex in South Philadelphia. It just doesn't have any like I I've seen what Atlanta has done. I've seen what Nashville has done and there's so much more charm to it like I've always thought citizens bank park has more charm than the link. The link is just kind of like this metal canister. It's just there's nothing like you don't really feel attached to it like you did the old vet or you know obviously citizens bank park but like if you stick it downtown it's going to be a total nightmare but if you stick it in juror what was the the report is it Camden mm-hmm so in so that's the other piece of this that they have other they have a big offer you stick it out long you put it out like in Montgomery or Bucks County what that's what the Braves the Braves put their new stadium out what I don't know if this is Nick Kale not wanting to drive for that that's what this is yeah the Braves stuck their new stadium and I think it's in either Marietta or Kennesaw, Georgia and it's not in the the inner heart of like downtown Fulton County and people love it they really do that makes it harder if you live in the city to get out there but they kind of did that by design yeah I just think a traffic and parking how how are you gonna what are you gonna do I know well that's the thing it's just it's not realistic downtown it's just too condensed it is so we we have that going on for sure I'll just headline the story that you you mentioned about central box this is making major news that in central box they pass this new social media policy and this is something that you know really is a follow-up because we've talked about the anti-Semitism complaints we've talked about all the issues and lawsuits going on there but the post will be subjected to a student code a student code of conduct and this even means a student who violates the code of conduct they could be disciplined for anything that they do social media wise off campus that is correct so they're kind of and we'll delve into it but I believe the advisor to the club needs to be kind of in the loop as in nothing can be posted I think if I'm reading into it properly without the approval of the adult kind of signing off of on it as far as like a like an editor to a paper so to speak yeah what I don't get on this one because we've reported in the past the problem was actually a teacher that in the past oh yeah that's right remember that yeah you know so I believe that the teachers and faculty they'll also have their own you know code of conduct this goes to students and it stemmed from the post by a Muslim student group that was a club and so there there's that federal civil rights complaint I've done interviews that we've been talking about this for quite some time yeah let's go do a little bit on that in the second hour yeah so let me get to our sponsor real quick here budget blinds ready for fall budget blinds is your one stop shop blinds shades shutters custom drapery and motorization visit budget blinds dot com get a free and home consultation it's the only no questions asked warranty in the entire business when you schedule your consultation ask about their special radio offer Greg soccer Greg and stuff can tell you they have done up their house with budget blinds amazing beautiful job 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company and the big take this morning brought to you by indeed fight fight fight but what is the right approach for potential round two on Tuesday night the biggest loser was ABC News but ABC News will still be around after November 5th and continue to exist Donald Trump had a bad night and the difference between Trump and ABC is that Trump might not be around after November 5th Kamala Harris entered Tuesday nights debate with 31% of Americans not knowing who she is or what she is about and perhaps they emerged from the debate and believe she is tough and can handle stronger men or perhaps the undecided and those who know nothing about her remain mystified by who she is and what she stands for and maybe that was the Harris campaign goal if viewers watch the first 20 minutes they saw Trump at his best and Harris a little wobbly if you are stayed for 35 40 45 minutes they saw some of Kamala's improved moments if they stayed the entire night and they know anything about the truth they saw how much of a sham ABC News really is but make no mistake about it Americans saw it and Pennsylvania the prime example according to Nielsen the debate through an estimated 67 million viewers that was a 29% increase from the June 27th debate between Trump and Biden in Atlanta Georgia the debate through a 32 share but more importantly here in Pennsylvania Pittsburgh received a 44 share Philadelphia a 43 share which ranks as the top two markets who consumed the debate in the entire country so did Tuesday night have an impact on the results for November 5th it appears right now not so much the betting market in the last 36 hours has gone from Trump plus 7 to a statistical tie 49 49 to back in Trump's favor with Trump up two points 50 to 48 and keep in mind that gamblers especially the sharp ones they remove a motion and they bet with their brain not their heart also from a polling perspective the latest you go of economist poll shows a statistical tie 45 45 with Harris down to and Trump flat or even the polls conducted on September 8th September 9th which was the day of the debate and the day after yesterday September 10th it included over 1400 respondents and it is D+8 unweighted and D+4 weighted so that translates to solid news for Donald Trump but this really shouldn't surprise anybody think about everything we have seen in the political calendar and landscape this summer Biden gets knocked out in the debate Trump gets shot Joe drops out Kamala is installed Trump selects JD Kamala selects Tim walls RFK endorses Trump conventions are had honey moons are over polling has been relatively consistent and flat so while yes it was a bad night for Trump maybe just everybody out there was like already made up my mind I'm gonna watch it yes Pennsylvania Philly Pittsburgh we were invested but almost everybody has made up their mind at least that's what polling and the betting markets would show us but will Donald Trump engage for a rematch reportedly the Harris campaign wants it here's what 45 had to say yesterday afternoon listen and watch I like the analogy although I don't think it applies here because I think Trump had the worst night I would actually argue that Harris and her campaign are advocating for a second around because she feels relatively confident following her debut but if Trump agrees to a second debate I do hope it's on Fox News and I said this yesterday I'll say it again now I think he has every right to ask for Sean Hannity or Jesse Waters but I would gladly take Brett Bear and Martha McCallum even though he said yesterday on Fox and Friends in the morning that he doesn't want those two as moderators I'm not sure the Kamala Harris will do a Fox News debate unless the moderators are non prime time hosts if she agrees to Fox she is going to want the most quote neutral moderator possible but the truth is this Donald Trump has been in politics now for nine years his only option is to fight fight fight as he said emphatically when he was almost killed he has to debate her again the question however is what is the correct strategy because Tuesday night was not the correct approach it might not have been adequate preparation maybe he should rehire Zioli maybe Chris Christie should step in they had him prepared eight years ago but here's the million dollar question do you take the fight to her and quote go balls to the wall and try to embarrass her and utilize what she did Tuesday night get under her skin or do you run it back the same way you did against Joe Biden policy policy and some more policy that was my advice entering Tuesday night but he lost focus along the way on the issues at hand he took her bait and ABC News and yes it was a three on one debate but somehow someway you have to stay disciplined I want to share this information from the New York Times I thought this is fascinating and it illustrates being on the offensive compared to back pedaling and playing defense if you're on YouTube you will see this graphic Kamala Harris had 37 minutes and 41 seconds of speaking time she spent 17 and a half of that on the attack that comes out to 46% of her airtime quote going after her opponent meanwhile Donald Trump had 43 minutes of total speaking time but spent only 12 minutes attacking his opponent that comes out to just about 30% translation he was on his heels and she was dictating the tempo as was ABC News she actually spent more time on the economy when she can't spell economy than Trump did six minutes and six seconds to 413 and Trump actually spent more time on abortion 408 compared to Harris at 340 this cannot happen again period Trump's biggest strength the economy Kamala talks more Trump's biggest weakness female reproductive rights he's talking more we need to flip that Republican pollster Frank once joined the peers Morgan show and said that Kamala Harris didn't win the election Tuesday night but Trump might have lost it listen and watch this do you think Kamala won and does that mean she may now win the election I think more accurately it said Donald Trump lost and this is not the worst debate performance I've seen in my career but it's very close to it the conversations about people eating dogs and cats calling the leader of Hungary one of the greatest world leaders repeatedly missing the opportunity to focus on inflation and affordability and the complete inability to present his point of view without completely tearing into her into into Joe Biden into whomever was in his sights it was a pretty negative performance pretty pessimistic cynical contemptuous and I think that this will cost him yes I'm trying to decide if I want to go on record and the answer is yes I think that that he loses because of this debate performance it is certainly possible I would say however right now it went from small advantage Trump to small advantage Harris but still within a margin of error and yes we're talking about three states 42,000 votes from four years ago but I want to conclude with the theory as I was thinking about this yesterday maybe it's too cynical maybe it's too diabolical but I think the audience will actually agree with this because with Democrats and the media you can ever rule anything out and think about everything that's gone on the last four years in this country I think you have a right to think this way here's what I think happened and how Trump may have been played is it possible that CNN stayed out of the way think about this we were praising us here on this show on this station CNN for doing a fair and adequate job on June 27th we never give CNN credit so why were we was CNN staying out of the way and letting Joe Biden crash and burn intentionally at the behest of the power brokers of the democrat party in order to get rid of him and in order to get a new candidate in then once Kamala Harris is installed the setup takes place where she had said I'm only going on ABC News a network in which as we know gives her 100% positive spin coverage and Trump 93% negative spin coverage in which also their top executive reportedly is a major ally and confident and close lifelong friend of Kamala Harris to make sure that Trump is buried you can't rule that out how could you after the last four years prosecutions assassination attempts be platforming this could be deemed the 2024 election interference which would be the new hunter Biden laptop suppression via big tech pertaining to the New York Post story of four years ago don't tell me it's not a possibility after everything they've thrown at Trump the media hates Trump the left hates Trump and they don't like you we know that here's Lawrence Jones from Fox and Friends in Washington PA yesterday morning speaking to a Trump supporter at a local diner who asked Trump a question live on television when it comes to the mainstream media listen and watch hello president Trump I'm just curious on how you're going to combat the all the fake news and break through some of the noise to get the undecided voters to vote for you this November well but what are you gonna do a great question because you really do it by doing a show like this with Lawrence and the group you have to get your word out and you don't have a fair media you have a very liberal bias media I have no idea why I actually have no idea think of it they don't want walls they don't want borders they don't want good economies they the things they want are destructive to our our country but I will tell you that it's very important if you're doing what I'm doing you have to do shows like this that's another thing Kamala doesn't do any shows she doesn't do interviews she doesn't talk to people she doesn't do anything like that and that's not fair to the public because they don't know what they're getting but they saw last night what they had they had a rigged show with somebody that maybe even had the answers I mean I'll be honest what I watched her talk and I said you know she seems awfully familiar with the questions and you get pretty good at that stuff after a while but when I saw how how totally rigged that was I take a look at it and I watch and I say you know you have to get out there and one of the things I did is I said let's do this show it like what time is it 6 30 in the morning and it's an honor to do it but you have to go out and you have to do the shows you have to go out and do media you are correct and we don't have an honest media but Trump needs to take his own advice and implement it better much better if we get a second round speak to the American public I'm almost of the belief now that he needs to ignore Kamala Harris completely ignore the moderators completely pretend you're in your bathroom rehearsing your speech you've ever had that like big job interview and you're sitting there and you're putting on your tire your makeup and you're going through your spiel in the mirror that is what he needs to do it's just you staring into that camera speaking to the American public if he can do that and almost put blinders on and ear muffs on it will only give him a better chance of cracking through the lopsided field that unfortunately he's had to play on for the last nine years and that's the big take the big take on killing company big take this morning brought to you by indeed if you need to hire you need indeed their end-to-end solution helps you attract the interview and hire candidates all year round schedule and conduct virtual interviews right from your indeed dashboard learn more by visiting indeed.com/credit we'll come back get people's thoughts and reactions to some of the tidbits we gave you in that big take as well as the stock market not the polls the greatest indicator of what lies ahead as we continue killing company but first a word from the Piazza auto group and we are talking about Mazda this morning specifically the CX-30 what a vehicle it has an extensive crossover and SUV lineup Mazda has you covered from head to toe between 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excuse me Kamala didn't win it but Trump might have lost it and maybe he did but I don't think you can come away with any decisive viewpoint as far as what the election will hold on November 5th or what voting will hold starting you know right now in some states and certainly in Pennsylvania on September 16th but we do have information and I mentioned it in the big take 67 million people and I'm not surprised that there was an increase from the viewership of June 27th versus September 10th right because we said people check out for the summer listeners and viewing habits they change people are on vacation they're taking trips they're going to the shore but after Labor Day everybody gets back into their groove and it's full throttle you know straight through the fall holiday season but you had a 28 percent increase you had 67 million viewers and let's let's almost for now on honestly and forget national polls I'm almost saying let's forget swing states let's focus exclusively right here on Pennsylvania because of every single city that could have consumed that debate two nights ago Pittsburgh draws a 44 share and Philadelphia a 43 share so those 19 votes in the electoral college those undecideds those independents right here in the Keystone state they were locked in how long they were locked in for I don't know that's up to you know Nielsen and these TV brand managers that do the stalker analysis but if they saw the first 20 minutes they probably were like yeah Trump he's got the economy he looks good if they stayed for 45 minutes done they saw Trump maybe come unraveled I do think it'll be interesting to see what Pennsylvanians think and thought watching that because their eyeballs were glued to the television yeah I think I think it's back to school so I know for a lot of kids they were told hey if you can watch at least the first 15 minutes at least the first half hour you know I know for my sons that was part of it they had like school assignment work as far as watching us just watch it you know and so and class discussions and moron did they discuss policy and that's something that I think if you really look at it because remember you know younger viewers first-time voters okay or college age or even you know people people between 18 and let's say 32 are very savvy they're savvy to the media they're savvy to not getting played and more cynical because of what they've been through especially think of you know first-time voters they were you know what in middle school when the pandemic shutdowns happen depending on where you were well that's I think that's more cynical the way you frame it there because it's first-time voters because we know that young people typically don't vote but if you're a first and I would say first-time voter yes obviously technically the first time you can vote 18 but you might not vote in your life for the first time until you're 24 or 28 or 32 years old whatever it might be you might be my age and you might this might be the first time you've ever vote because you thought out voting is a waste of time elections blah blah blah they don't mean anything my life doesn't change significantly one way or the other but I would I would counter and punch back by saying oh no your vote matters and I know there's a certainly a segment of this audience that feels disenfranchised after what they believe happened four years ago but you this is why you have to believe your vote matters and you have to vote and you have to take advantage of all the tools that are out there including early voting and mail-in ballots think about I mean just I was thinking about these numbers last night we live in a nation of over what 340 million people roughly 155 million voted and as big as this country is as many people as there are this thing came down to 42 000 votes in three states I mean that is such a minuscule number when you look at the mass population and the total number of people that could potentially vote so to say that your vote won't matter no it really could matter smaller than the size of Springfield Ohio well there you go and I'm just thinking about that I would love to know what the population of Blue Bell is let's just say for the sake of conversation here Blue Bell has 42 000 people that would be like you like I'm going to come in an airlift everybody out of their home in Blue Bell put them in a massive chopper we're going to dump you into Citizens Bank Park in South Philadelphia and say everybody in this building right here right here's the difference in a win or a loss so I'm blown away by a lot of this I was thinking about it from many different angles last night and I also think and this is not to say because I'm not one of these guys I've said this on the air I'm not one of these guys that complains about the referees do a better job if you blame it on the refs you've already lost and yes I get it trust me ABC News and we talked about it they to me were the biggest disgrace of all on Tuesday night but I wouldn't rule it out I mean seriously if you think about this what did we did you ever think you were going to sit back after June 27th on that next day the next morning we were on June 28th and say I'll tell you what man down to bash and Jake Tapper they did a bang up job I got a lot of respect for them they did it so you start thinking about the wheels and putting the wheels in motion and we've said this in the past you know democrats are a lot of things they're not stupid right and I just look at all of this and it's like this was the way to get Biden a because we've never seen that before a debate for an election for the presidency of the United States in June unheard of and then we get ABC News and David Ware who's like labeled I've seen the ad by the way when I watched sports on ABC the most trusted and watched name and evening news he was totally in the tank for Kamala yeah so we went on to percent by the way if you had to gas Nick Hale yes what would you see what would be your guess for the population of blue belt in Pennsylvania 6400 don't do this to him well you know you know my numbers are way off so if 42,000 is what I said then it's either got to be like 200,000 or Don just said 6000 I was looking for so Norristown has nearly 36,000 okay think of Norristown maybe that's closer to your okay yeah I mean so that's what we're talking about here we're talking about like Norristown deciding the election from a not from a sheer number stamp getting ready to set Nick up and I know don't do that it's not nice what was it 6400? 6,500 yeah that's it oh so you okay I thought you were just no 6,500 is the is the is the population of blue belt as of 2022 kyw's got more employees oh yeah I never would have thought 6,000 man I live in a real small town okay well there you go so I think that's important but I want to give some good news because I know a lot of people down in the dumps if they objectively looked at Tuesday and they said their guy didn't do a great job maybe it doesn't matter and maybe polls really don't matter and certainly over the last four years you can argue that the polls have been atrocious but soccer found this story I thought it's interesting from fortune and they lay out a couple of things regarding the stock market and you don't have to be some financial wizard to understand what I'm about to share with you according to the New York Times Kamala Harris now is ahead of Donald Trump by two points 49 47 when you look at some of the projections like Nate Silver's 538 it is a 47 44 lead for Kamala Harris so that's three points so let's just say two or three points in favor of Kamala then the betting market has what according to this article is 49 49 I saw last night Trump's backup too but let's call it a coin flip as well it's actually the S&P 500's performance that is a true indicator or the most accurate source for predicting elections and they write the following and I want to read this for you and give you something to feel good about here on this Thursday while these election polls will get most of the headlines it turns out Americans might be better off watching the stock market if they want to know who will be in Washington next year election polls historical accuracy has been spotty at best in a 2023 examination of hundreds of us election polls dating back to 1998 so going back 25 years 538 senior elections analyst Nathaniel Rackich found that pollsters accurately predict the winner 78% of the time and in 2022 that dipped to just 72% of the races on the other hand the S&P 500's performance between August and October that three-month stretch August September and October has accurately predicted the winner of every election since 1984 so for the last 40 years my entire lifespan what the S&P 500 is showing you in that quarter August September October is 100% absolute on determining the winner they go on to say Comerica Bank's chief investment officer John Lynch and senior analyst Matthew Anderson offered a simple explanation between stock prices and election outcomes in a Tuesday email to their clients equity performance reflects broader economic sentiment when voters are satisfied with the economy's direction they tend to support the status quo and when they are dissatisfied they are more inclined to vote for change hello Trump lynch and Anderson lynch and Anderson noted with a strong stock market performance for the full year before an election it has also been heavily correlated with success for the incumbent party it hasn't always been a guarantee the S&P rose 14% and 13% in 76 and in 1980 okay but that was again pre-1984 since 84 it's been accurate but the incumbent party lost the election during both of those inflation heavy years hello Trump again there are two big indicators right there that I just gave you on top of that last note the third one to this magical mystery right here the misery index the misery index I like that combines the seasonally adjusted unemployment rate with the annual inflation rate into a single measure in an attempt to gauge the economic pain that Americans are feeling a higher number signals consumers are struggling with rising prices and finding jobs leading to more economic misery the three-month average of the misery index between August and October has accurately predicted every presidential election since 1980 going back 44 years so what does it mean now the latest misery index came in for August at 6.7 percent that's down from a Biden administration peak of 12 and a half in July of 22 but it's up from this June's 6.5 percent if this rule holds this election Kamala Harris's chances are in serious jeopardy and I want you to think about this Don mentions the economy Don talks about the Fed a lot once a month on her show we've had job reports that have showed corrections and revisions aka over inflated lies and inflation is still two and at 2.8 percent which by the way is about still two times as high as what it was under Trump if you're looking for good news if you're looking for reliable indicators I just gave it to you this is very good for Donald Trump and what was his highlight of the night on Tuesday night on the economy the first 15 minutes if these numbers hold true it's a positive for the Trumpster and a negative for Harris the quote is equity performance reflects broader economic sentiment equity this is equity used in the proper way as opposed to the EI right but I think you know what I think that Trump supporters it's weird uh Trump supporters in my opinion were more like disappointed because you know what Trump can do because you study him you watch him you love him you know you know so you wanted him to come out and do a KO but he was solid and it's interesting to me that independent voters or people who might not be as you know hardcore let's say actually thought Trump did a good job and thought that Kamala Harris did not answer the questions that she clearly memorized things and really didn't give the answer and that's what I'm seeing more so I think it's it's that you know it's fascinating to me to watch this and hear people say oh you know man I thought he you know whatever he was lower energy or he wasn't himself but I think he actually was steady in his performance and gave more substance and policy so it's it's this is fascinating to watch that that the fact that he did not come out punching or bold played well with I think more independent type voters well I I'm hoping that's what resonated because the CNN flash poll post debate said 63% believe Kamala Harris won but that's not necessarily the worst thing in the world first of all it's a CNN poll so I'm assuming it's CNN viewers and consumers and when we talk about a small sliver that's going to determine this election how many of those 37% that won are the independents and truly if you are undecided if you are an independent if your vote really hangs in the balance and you're a no-nonsense oh I'm not a social media guy I'm not interested in Trump's zingers I'm not interested in Kamala acting like she's tough all I care is about bottom line results then maybe you do believe Trump gave you more substance and more policy and I do agree with Frank once where I thought Trump dropped the ball when he could have gone further on you know inflation and certain policies and specifics however even though Trump didn't have a great night by any measure he still gave more substance and policy than Harris and maybe that was by design maybe the Harris campaign just wanted to come in here because we we and I have to believe the Trump kid and this is why I was so disappointed with the Trump team we talked about the report of Hillary Clinton prepping Kamala saying he can be rattled you can get under his skin so it was out there for the public to know that it's a distinct possibility that Kamala is going to come in there and try to ruffle some feathers and the fact that he allowed her to do that and he took the bait was so disappointing for me but hopefully the independents say you know what like we heard that lady yesterday stalker played that lady from somewhere and I think eerie pa on the cut sheet all she cares about is the economy so she's not taking any of the bait on any of the stuff that we chop up on a daily basis six hours a day but she just looks at the bottom line and that's what I I project to people and I hope that because as I've said it's like you're going into the grocery store and you've purchased both products before or maybe you didn't purchase them because you didn't vote for Biden but you've lived through it and you can sit there and compare candidate A to candidate B and which one made your life better and I I'd like to think that's what the election comes down to but sadly I don't think that's where we are and the weirdest thing is with my kids you know they they talked about the economy they talked about taxes all of that but then they talked about the cats and dogs comment too that was that that was blowing up yesterday that's all I heard yesterday yep and in school in high school that was the discussion and which I would expect for for 16 17 and 18 year old I don't expect them to be talking about the S&P 500 right well I don't know but then they were doing their research and they found they said all right there was one lady who ate a cat in Ohio and I'm like what this is a bizarre conversation you guys but that was what it devolved to it was did somebody eat a dog or a cat or what have you mm-hmm a five five eight three nine twelve ten the 25 lies that Kamala Harris told there's a couple I want to get into that are beyond the entry level surface stuff we'll do that on the other side and then also a moment of camaraderie between the two combatants we will play you the footage on the other side dawns news to kick off the seven o'clock hour as we continue plus actually I just saw this my call screen are just 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ABC News was biggest loser from debate, Trump says no to 2nd debate with Kamala