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BIG TAKE: ONE & DONE IN THE CITY OF BROTHERLY LOVE Follow up on Debate discussion Callers Music History Hr 2 Dawn news Trump had a bad night 23rd anniversary of 9/11 Taylor Swift endorsed Harris Break Swift endorsement Christopher called in Lou from Hammonton called in Charlie in Philly called in Cut Sheet Kamala on the economy Trump's answer on the economy Project 2025 Bounce back jobs KH - what Trump will do / abortion KH - invite to attend to Trump's rallys Trump talks about illegals eating animals Trump being fed social KH would not stop fracking KH wants a 2nd debate Tony Bruno Hr 4 Tony Bruno continues Mystery Movie Frank from South Philly called in on 9/11 Dave from Southampton - on Tyreek Hill Cut Sheet Part Deux CNN had a undecided voter group CBS focus group on debate What Trump said on Fox & Friends this morning / re 2nd debate JD Vance on CNN regarding debate Music History

Broadcast on:: 11 Sep 2024
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I'm Sally Holm with the podcast History This Week. In each episode, we serve as your eyes and ears into history's biggest events, major elections, world wars, scientific breakthroughs, but we also bring you into the smaller behind-the-scenes stories, the unsung heroes, secret meetings, even personal grudges that changed the course of history. Listen to and follow History This Week and Odyssey Podcast in partnership with the History Channel, available now for free on the Odyssey app and wherever you get your podcasts. - Caitlin Company, weekday morning, 6 till 10. - A Philadelphia police officer who has been hospitalized ever since he was shot during a traffic stop back in June has died. Officer Jamie Roman, who served in the 25th district, died yesterday, Commissioner Kevin Bethel said that Officer Roman was surrounded by his family and had bravely fought since the shooting fought to survive. The suspect in this case, 36-year-old Ramon Rodriguez Vasquez is still being held on $12.5 million bail, and Officer Jamie Roman was one of two officers who pulled over Vasquez at that time. He had no license, the car was not registered, and officers, if you recall the story, had called a parking authority tow truck, allowed Vasquez and three friends who arrived at the scene in another vehicle after the traffic stop to retrieve some items from the vehicle. And that's when officers saw Holster confronted Vasquez who then ran off, but fired three times toward police, hitting Officer Roman in the neck. His partner was able to return fire, but Vasquez was not hit. And then went on to allegedly, I have to say allegedly, allegedly, carjacked the driver of a minivan that entered two homes. Remember this, home owner hostage. It was a, you know, SWAT officers had to surround the home, and ultimately Vasquez fired at police. And then we had learned that, in fact, his criminal records had shown that this suspect fired on officers in Puerto Rico after an alleged carjacking. - Yep, this is precisely yesterday why I said I believe officers have every right and should be able to use a lot of resources and tools at the scene of a crime to get the scene under control. So they are safe, secure, and protected, and tragedies do not happen like this. - And Americans, you know, Americans across the nation commemorating the 23rd commemoration of September 11th, 2001, including our area, it particularly hard in Lower Bucks County. People will gather, coming together to honor the victims of the terrorist attacks with several commemorative events scheduled throughout the area. I believe the day's observances begin 8.30 this morning at the Garden of Reflection. They're in Lower Makeville Township, and it's right there on Woodside Road. This memorial hosting a morning ceremony that adheres to the chronicological timeline of the 9/11 attacks. And it'll feature readings, the tolling of bells, moments of silence at those specific times when each plane crashed on September 11th, 2001. We'll have faith-based leaders there and expect, usually we have great crowd. - Phil, if you're on YouTube, Phil has the timestamps up of when each tower was struck. It's a great work out of Phil. North Tower 846, South Tower 903, Pentagon 937, 959, the South Tower collapses. Flight 93 crashes in Pennsylvania at 1003. North Tower collapses at 1028. - Good work, Phil. - Don't you feel the farther we get removed from this, the more people kind of forget? I know that's how life usually works. - Right, and after the debate last night, most people won't even think about it today. - Well, that's the other thing too, is I feel like it's being, you know, because of the debate last night. Maybe we shouldn't have done it on the 10th, you know what I mean, for the analysis on the 11th. Maybe we should have waited a couple of days just to, you know, give 9/11 the proper respect. I mean, we're gonna be guilty of it too, 'cause that's what we're gonna talk about all day here today too. But it's what I believe our audience wants, so that's what we're gonna do. But I just like, are they doing something in schools today? - Yes, they are. - I would hope so. - That's good. - I would certainly hope so. I had back to school night last night with my daughters, with parents and teachers, and we were there for about an hour and a half, but yeah, I would like to think so. I would hope so. - Yeah, all the schools, private and public, they, I know my kids' schools, everybody's doing that. And does it every year too. - Yep, as they should. - We had, you know, obviously from our area, we were particularly, yeah, hard hit, and including there, I had mentioned lower Bucks County because just in lower make field, you had 18 victims. So you think of that community in particular, and we've reported live from the fire company there. By the way, the Edgley Fire Company in Bristol Township is asking us to put this out. They're offering a quiet space. Fire Company, September 11th Memorial, located on the side of the station. They're on Edgley Road, open to the public for those who wish to pay their respects individually. Or as well, stop by, you know, to Greg's point, maybe bring by your children, younger family members who weren't even born at that time to make sure that they know what happened and the sacrifice. The events remember an honor, nearly 3,000 lives lost on that tragic day in 2001 and then to reflect on its impacts because obviously we have first responders we still talk about who went in bravely, courageously, and were killed or still suffering from the medical, you know, from going in and breathing all of that. - I can't imagine what it's like to have to deal with that 23 years later with lung issues and neurological issues, just awful. - And so, you know, I'll pause here because Nick has a great big take and that big endorsement that's coming up that we want to talk about as well. - Like it just, it pains me, it pains, honest to God, I'm gonna say something controversial, 6-11. It pains me that on a day like today, we had to spend time talking about politicians and Taylor Swift because they are the, you know, what's the opposite of good potential wars? Yeah, so like I just, you know, on days like today, I just, you know, I feel like we need to remember, you know, what happened on September 5th. - I remember vividly where I was, I've said this story before, I was in the guidance counselor's office first period, 846, I worked for the guidance counselor to hand deliver tasks to different teachers and go get kids that were in trouble, they had principal one of the C in the whole bit and they had little old CNN on this little brown wooden TV that was barely color in 2001. And I'm sitting there and I'm watching the first plane hit and I'm like, that hell is happening here. Like, you know, and then we ended up having a football game on Friday night, it wasn't canceled. And it was, there wasn't a dry eye in the house, yeah. - So we are sponsored this morning by Indeed, need to hire, you need Indeed. 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I gotta tell you, if I ever got hit by a 96 mile an hour fastball, I'd be out of work for a month. - I love that he said it. - He fetched his jog down the first place. - I love that he hates stings like the Dickens. - You look like you're a queen of 97 years old. - I cleaned up on the fly, yeah. - No dump needed, sir. - But we're victorious, 640 again tonight and another beautiful night for baseball. - The Mets lost, by the way, I'm sorry, Don. The Mets lost, by the way, so I think the Phillies are within striking distance of clenching, at least. - Yeah, I think it's either six or seven or seven or eight with, I forget how many games are left, but almost a mathematical impossibility, yeah. - So that's, we got that going for us, which is nice. All right, so we are, so the forecast, I mean, mid 80s, beautiful weather. I mean, throughout the entire week, just, I think this is one of the most beautiful weather weeks we've had all year, quite frankly, and then into the weekend, it's summer, it is still summer, officially. So 86 degrees for your Saturday, 87 for your Sunday, but keeping that humidity down, beautiful bright sunny days, take us through the week. Best work industries for the blinds, e-commerce store, helping businesses succeed in all work environments, bestworksupplycenter.com, offering traditional office products, cleaning supplies, furniture, technology, and more, with free shipping, next day delivery, shop now, save at bestworkssupplycenter.com, killing company news live. - All right, Don, thank you very much, 6.15 on a Wednesday. Let's get to a mid-week big take. - The big take on killing company. - And the big take is brought to you by the Piazza Auto Group, one and done in the city of brotherly love. Well, it's a wrap, the first and likely only debate to become the 47th president of the United States of America is in the books and it was quite an interesting event as Donald Trump and Kamala Harris squared off at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia last night. Prior to 9 p.m., a handful of tidbits were revealed to the American public throughout the day, ranging from the stage and the setup of the debate, the podiums, how Pennsylvania suburban voters were handling the big day and further investigations into just how radical Kamala Harris is and likely will be if elected potus on November 5th. But here is the bottom line. In life, there are two ways to give your opinion to someone or some entity. You can tell them what they want to hear or you can tell them what they need to hear, whether it's discussing your favorite politician or political party, whether it's your favorite football team, whether it's your own children and your own flesh and blood. I choose to say the latter and it might not be what you want to hear but it's what you need to hear. Donald Trump did not have a great night last night. Kamala Harris didn't have a bad night. ABC News had an atrocious night. Those I think are the three facts of the evening last night. Donald Trump wasn't great but it doesn't mean he will lose the election. Kamala Harris was better than advertised and better than expected, considering the bar is incredibly low after Joe Biden on June 27th. Not only though, do I think she cleared that bar, I think she cleared a lot of expectations that the American public had for her from a optics standpoint but it doesn't mean that she will win the election. And when it pertains the last night's debate and what unfolded, it will come down to three things on how you view the outcome and who won last night's festivities. What was your opinion and who were you rooting for going into last night? That's number one. What media outlet or outlets or sources do you consume on the daily for headlines and takeaways? That's number two. And are you politically astute like our hardcore listeners or are you a casual oblivious outsider who checks in for news and politics every five days for nine minutes? That's the reaction and the way people will position things today based on their own lens and their own vantage point. But when it pertains to Kamala Harris, it was style versus substance. I actually think her style resonated with the casual political observer. Style wise, she proved that she could stand up to Donald Trump. Substance wise, she lied repeatedly and offered very little policy explanation and very little answers to the moderator's questions, including the first one on the economy. Again, style versus substance and who the viewer is consuming and what the viewer is consuming. Her words matter. Donald Trump had the zingers. Trump had to be his own fact checker last night because ABC News is so in the tank for Kamala Harris, I almost vomited out of my ears. Trump was good on the economy. I thought Trump, even though I think the abortion issue is a loser, I think he stated his position on abortion quite well, bringing it back to the states. No matter whether you agree with that or not, I thought he framed that well. But Trump also went into the border and immigration too often, unprompted, especially when it wasn't the topic at hand. And where Trump shot himself in the foot is when he brought up the dog story about illegal immigrants allegedly, reportedly, unverifiably, eating pets. And only made it worse when fact checked by saying, well, I saw it on TV, dude. That's like saying, well, it has to be true. I saw it on Twitter. ABC News, what a disgraceful outlet they are. But expected, if you listened to this show yesterday, we told you they had a 100% positive spin score on Kamala Harris since July 21st. And they had a 93% negative spin score on Trump. And David Moore is a total hack. What that was last night wasn't even in the ballpark for journalism, fair moderation, and impartiality. I also thought Kamala Harris got off to a bad and nervous start. Did you pick up on her breathing pattern on that loud, sensitive, hot microphone? It was obvious that her heart was beating a mile a minute, the first 10 minutes of the debate. She wasn't breathing when she was talking. She also had a scripted answer on the opening question, which was a layup, and she didn't even answer it. That was, of course, the economy under her and Joe Biden's watch. But I also thought it was a bad look for her to be smiling and giggling during the allegations of weaponized government against Trump. That's not gonna stick well with people. It confirms my belief that this is a weaponized persecution of Donald Trump. But I also believe she really settled in and calmed down after the opening jitters. And I give Trump, again, lots of credit for once again, stepping into a three-on-one handicap match because that's what it was, no question about it. Anybody objectively could sit back and say ABC News was super biased for Kamala Harris. And that's a polite way of putting it due to FCC regulations. If you heard my microphone, and if I was mic'd up in my living room, we would probably get kicked off the air. It's something he's not afraid to do. It's also something Kamala can't and won't. He will step into the lion's den. And with the big finish, the truth is this. Going into last night, I believed that Kamala Harris had a wider range on scoring for the debate. She could crash and burn. She might have been able to win the election. Trump had a more narrow range as polling has indicated. He's been steadily between 45 and 48%. So he might go up a point or two, down a point or two. But Kamala could be more like the gauge on your dashboard for the gas tank. I mean, she could have gone from empty to full to half full. And we portrayed and laid out for you what the mainstream media is telling you today. And I don't think they are wrong. But now let's get to the tape. I thought Trump landed a solid mic drop moment when he mocked Kamala Harris with a run spot run zinger when it pertains to Kamala copying and pasting Biden's economic policy. Listen and watch this. She copied Biden's plan. And it's like four sentences, like run spot run. Four sentences that are just, oh, we'll try and lower taxes. She doesn't have a plan. I don't think she has a plan. I think he's absolutely right. I laughed that loud when he said that. And I'm assuming social media did as well. And he's talking about her website, which finally yesterday, the day of the debate, she finally posted four little sections of policy on her official campaign website. She is a complete fraud on policy. But this election is not about policy and issues. We know that. But when it pertains to immigration and the border, I thought Trump could have dished out the statistics of illegals. And I'm saying beyond what he said, because he mentioned 15 million. He thinks it's more like 21 million. I thought he could have went deeper than that. And he could have mentioned the name, Lakein Riley. To my knowledge, up until about 10 15, he didn't say that name, wasted opportunity. Instead, he goes down the rabbit hole of an unverifiable dog slash pet eating story of illegals and offered a terrible reason why he even brought it up. Listen and watch this. - I've seen people on television. - Let me just say here, this is the-- - The people on television said my dog was taken and used for food. So maybe he said that. And maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager. - I'm not taking this from television. - But the people on television say my dog was eaten by the people that went there. - Lakein Riley happened. This dog story has not been proven to be true. It made you look weird. Kamala Harris proved she can be a lying, dishonest, stone cold, disinformation, and misinformation queen. Here was Harris spewing debunked claims multiple times from a variety of fact checkers ranging from very fine people to bloodbath. Listen and watch. - But this is not an isolated situation. Let's remember Charlottesville where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches spewing anti-Semitic hate. And what did the president then at the time say? There were fine people on each side. Let's remember that when it came to the Proud Boys, a militia, the president said, the former president said stand back and stand by. So for everyone watching who remembers what January 6th was, I say, we don't have to go back. Let's not go back. We're not going back. It's time to turn the page. And if that was a bridge too far for you, well, there is a place in our campaign for you to stand for country, to stand for our democracy, to stand for rule of law, and to end the chaos, and to end the approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy 'cause you don't like the outcome and be clear. On that point, Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election, there will be a bloodbath. If this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking. Let's turn the page on this. Let's not go back. Let's chart a course for the future. And not go backwards to the past. - It is 100% unacceptable that those two stooges at the desk, the moderators I'm talking about, didn't fact check her on that. And of course, the bloodbath thing is about the automobile industry with the US and United States relationship with Mexico. Fireable offense if the bosses were being objective, which we know they are not. But then Trump had another moment where I thought he beat Harris to the punch. Excuse me, I'm talking. Listen and watch. - Minnesota, she went out, wait a minute, I'm talking now. Do you know mine, please? Does that sound familiar? - That was awesome. And it was like watching a professional wrestler steal the other wrestler's catchphrase when cutting a promo. I thought it was brilliant. It was brilliant timing. I think we all knew that those words were going to be uttered. We just didn't know by who and when it would happen. Trump gets the point there with the zinger in the short attention span crowd that loves social media clips. And that matters. But lastly, where I thought Harris took the fight to Trump was on the global stage. Not policy wise, because Trump had peace. He had prosperity. We didn't have Russia, Ukraine. We didn't have the Middle East. But this is a sticking spot and a landing moment for the left if they were wondering, does Kamala have the backbone to call out a man? World leaders, disgrace. I believe this landed. You might disagree. Listen and watch this. - And I'm gonna tell you that I have traveled the world as Vice President of the United States. And world leaders are laughing at Donald Trump. I have talked with military leaders, some of whom worked with you. And they say you're a disgrace. - Could be a complete lie, but it just might have landed with the oblivious. And again, it's kind of like hearsay. We have no idea behind closed doors. If any world leaders called Trump a disgrace to Biden and Harris, but for the casual observer last night, they sit there and they say, hmm, okay. I really believe Americans, especially females who don't follow this stuff, saw and heard that, nodded their head and said, okay. But did anything really change or reminds made up entering last night? We know that this is election with a very, very small sliver of undecideds. Prior to the debate, the New York Post spoke with suburban voters in Pennsylvania right here in our listening audience. And they found out the following quote, "The 2024 presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump is must see TV Tuesday night. But crucial voters in Pennsylvania say, even though they are tuning in, their minds are made up about 2024. Michael Riddell from Chester County is a decided voter, but he will be watching. Quote, I hope to get some direction for the country more than for myself, he said, he will be voting for Kamala Harris. Quote, I think right now, our democracy is top of mind for me. He said, he is a registered Democrat, but was once an independent and hopes to go back to it someday. Quote, I agree with her policies and I don't think Trump should be president," Riddell said. On the other side of the ledger, interestingly, in Delaware County, Kayla Quinn, female, said she will likely vote for Trump because she's frustrated about where her tax dollars are going, but she will still watch the debate. Quote, I'm looking for real arguments. Not just petty back and forth, she said. I just want to see some real arguments and some real solutions brought up, end quote. So who was the winner? I think Kamala Harris was relatively good on how she projected to the people. Let me say that again. Projected to the people, not policy, not truthfulness, not track record, not success, but the optics and the projections to the political newcomers who don't consume this on a daily basis or didn't know her before. And how will the media portray it? Well, we told you what CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, the Washington Post and the Philadelphia Inquirer said about 15, 20 minutes ago. And the bar, incredibly low post Biden and the fact that we've seen in her Trump six or seven times before. And Trump's had a bad debate before in the past. So it's hardly curtains for him. And then ultimately what impact did last night's debate have on the election? I think Trump stays about the same. I could see Harris close to the same, maybe a mild bump or two, a point or two. If you look at probabilities like Polymarket or the 538 with Nate Silver, Trump might drop a percentage or so. Harris might move up two or three points, but swing state polling is what matters the most. And swing state polling, I think will probably remain about the same, but in Pennsylvania, which is where it all comes down to, things could have changed last night. And if this election does come down to Pennsylvania, which it likely will, I could see PA voters and females certainly now back in Kamala Harris. I really could, wouldn't shock me, shouldn't shock you. But I think bottom line, status quo, 98% of people, 99%, they already made up their mind. And you either suffer from Trump derangement syndrome or you want to make America great again, despite all the moments last night good, bad and ugly. And that's the big take. - The big take on killing company. - All right, brought to you by Piazza Auto Group. If you are looking for exceptional offers on a new Hyundai, well, then you should visit Piazza Hyundai of Potstown or Westchester to get 1.9% financing for 60 months on the 2024 Tucson, Tucson Hybrid and Alantra Shop Online at PiazzaHonda.com today, 855-839-1210. We will take your calls all morning, read your social media posts at 1210-WPHT at all of your comments in the YouTube chat. We'll get Dawn and Greg's reaction as well as we break it down all morning long, debate night in America in the books, cut sheet at 745 Bruno at 830 and we're back after this. - I'm Sally Helm with the podcast History This Week. In each episode, we serve as your eyes and ears into history's biggest events, major elections, world wars, scientific breakthroughs. But we also bring you into the smaller behind-the-scenes stories, the unsung heroes, secret meetings, even personal grudges that changed the course of history. Listen to and follow History This Week and Odyssey Podcast in partnership with the History Channel, available now for free on the Odyssey app and wherever you get your podcasts. - It's a killing company on demand from talk radio 1210-WPHT and the free Odyssey app. - I'm Sally Helm with the podcast History This Week. In each episode, we serve as your eyes and ears into history's biggest events, major elections, world wars, scientific breakthroughs. But we also bring you into the smaller behind-the-scenes stories, the unsung heroes, secret meetings, even personal grudges that changed the course of history. Listen to and follow History This Week and Odyssey Podcast in partnership with the History Channel, available now for free on the Odyssey app and wherever you get your podcasts. - I think that the best performance yesterday was Melania Trump, she released a video and talking for the first time about her husband's attempted assassination. And the way that she spoke was it captured you and it was captivating. So I think to me, she won the day. As far as the debate, I agree with all of the criticism of so many people who said, oh, it was three to one. And I said to Larry Baer, he says, stop calling me Larry Baer. I'm in the wah-wah and somebody goes, hey, Larry Baer. But I said to him, this is a Saturday Night Live skit from the point of the moderators, you know, dressed and especially the Lindsey who we don't really know was well David Mirror, obviously, is their main anchor. But, you know, to me, it was a bit, the dark lighting, the weird, there were no, you didn't know the time frame, usually in a debate they say each of you have this many minutes, I don't know, it just, it was differently formatted and this dark set and then each individual is lit. And so there were, you know, I think even from the set, just from just to give us a media analysis or television analysis, they did everything to equalize the two candidates to put them level. And then the moderators, I mean, it was like, there are no dead dogs, no dead babies. I mean, I really, I thought it was a bit that you could really make fun of those moderators, that wispery, weird delivery they had, but I did feel it was biased. And, you know, when, I think it was David Mirror started asking the J6 question. I'm like, oh, you know, just every quite abortion, she went on and on. I just think that, so it was teed up against her, against him, but with all of that said, he still should have knocked it out of the park. And he really needed to have more moments where he just stuck to what he was going to say. And wasn't that an old Ronald Reagan soundbite that everybody quotes where Reagan had said, just say what you prepared to say. And don't take the bait, essentially. He took the bait. And, you know, when she said people start leaving your rallies, I was like, oh, don't even do not even respond. She did that just to bait him. And it worked. It worked. Because that was where all started with him going down the rabbit hole of social media nonsense. - And also getting into, well, people don't leave your debates because, well, they don't show up to your debates and we don't have to bust people in. And again, looking at those, you know, viral social media clips from 13 conservative paid influencers on X. Like, I don't know that that landed. I thought, overall, she started off nervous. But I thought he took the bait. And remember, we heard a lot of the, hey, Kamala is being prepped by this person and Hillary Clinton and that person and Trump can be rattled. And you can actually, now maybe it's because I observed Trump on almost a daily basis. But, and he does have the orange complexion. There were a few moments where I felt like his blood pressure spiked and you could see it in his face. And when he kind of went off of whatever script he had or whatever he had memorized, you could sense that it was like the, I'm getting emotional. And I think there's something with men. When you get emotional, you shut off sort of the logical component of your brain and she ended up getting under his skin there. - She had, she had his number from this second. She walked on stage, walked over to him and shook his hand. - Did you notice that? - Kamala Harris. And that was on purpose, she did that for a reason. It, it, it completely took him off guard 'cause he wasn't, he wasn't ready to do that. And I believe that that's, that was all by design. And it, it really went downhill from there. Now that being said, her opening statement. - What's the truth? - Was atrocious. - And it was, she was, she was, the, the, the. - He looked in your hand. - Yeah. - And he looked confused. Like why are you coming over here to shake my hand? - But she settled in and once she settled in, she was, she was laser focused on, on him and rattling him. Her point was not to, her point was not to put forward her agenda. That was not her point 'cause she had no agenda. - Right. - So her point was not to put for, her point was to rattle Trump and show the American people, you know, the undecideds, the three people who were undecided. - Yeah. - How unhinged he is in her opinion. - Was she? - He tried to cut off. - Sorry. - No, no, go ahead. - She, her only goal was to not look like the lightweight. - Yep. - Right? - And then she did that. - And so she, she accomplished that. And so the bar was so low for her, you know what I mean? That, that was his to lose in that respect. Politico's headlines, Trump wins the debate for Harris. The other one is how Harris beat Trump at his own game. Those are two Politico headlines. I will say this. - That is the common theme from the headlines today. - Yeah. - Yep. - I will say this. You know, this, the, the one debate that was, that was a disaster for the, for the upcoming 2020 was when Trump and Biden just, just were two guys yelling at each other. - Yep. - Calling each other a clown. - Yeah, her appeal, man. - That was, it was like, yeah, it was like two grumpy old men, your right, Greg. And that's, this was not that. - Yeah. - This is not a KO, by any nature. It's just that, you know, she did better than expected. I think it was three to one, but that shouldn't have even mattered. - Yeah. - And by the way, like I, he's been in those situations before with bias moderators, he has. And he's always been good. His, he's, he's lost, he's lost some steam on his fastball. I'm telling you, I'm telling you that last night he would have, he, if this was 2016, maybe even 2020, he would have thrown it right back at the moderators. He would have insulted the moderators. He would have said, this is, like, I don't even know why I'm here. It should just be you three. You know, there are so many lines. - Who was he, now that he loses fastball or has he been advised to be more presidential? - No, he's been on the road. Like the Phillies when they're exhausted after West Coast trip or whatever, and they have, you know, that. - Yeah, she's not exhausted. - I think some of it was coaching from the standpoint of, hey, don't, don't, don't go after her because you're gonna be labeled a bully. Don't make it about the fake news. Like I said yesterday, his strategy should be, just run it back. - Say, take the same approach you did in Atlanta. - Say. - And he didn't. - Say what you will about Chris Christie, and I know everybody has, has opinions on him, but when he was Trump's debate coach and Rich Dioli was Trump's debate coach, he was way more prepared. - Okay, wait. - And he was with Laura Loomer and Tulsi Gabbard. - So, and I'm a Tulsi Gabbard fan. - Failing on Tulsi in your part. - But just the social media rabbit holes he went down in last night where 99% of the audience had no idea what he was talking about, the fact that he was even bringing that stuff up, that was coaching and guidance by people like Laura Loomer and Tulsi Gabbard. And they did him a huge disservice by that because you know he doesn't know these stories. So it's people feeding him then. - Two things. I'll point out, here are my two things. Number one, it was Chris Christie, and he wrote this in his book, Chris Christie and Rich Dioli, but remember Chris Christie was the lead advisor prior to the clown grumpy old men debate. So I would, I'll give it with Yolie all the credit for the good one. And number two, remember that was Virginia Democrat, Governor Ralph Nothrom, remember him? And that's what Trump was talking about. I sent you guys the radio interview where he said, he did say the mother, you know, as far as the baby is born. And if they need to recess, it's a quote. - I know it is, we're talking about stuff that happened. Seven years ago, the American people don't give a crap about it. - Trump was legit, but to fact check him, the ABC News woman, Lindsey, who said there are no, whatever she said, there are no baby. - That was like her one little moment. - The truth is that if you fact check it, and we can air it, the radio W-T-O-P, you have former Democrat governor, Ralph Nothrom, and he did say it, and he's a doctor, by the way. And he was ripped for that. So you can air it, but he did say it. Trump was not wrong when he quoted the former Virginia governor. - From a fallout perspective, the betting markets of polymarket have gone seven points in favor of Harris. Going into last night, Trump held a eight-point lead. He was up 53 to 45%. Now it is 49 to 49, so we've gone from mild Trump lead in the gambling markets to a coin flip. Trump down three, Harris goes up three or four points. I'm also getting the tweets of people that didn't like the big take. And this was from our buddy, Ed Nasta, who just copies me in on Jason Miller, oh, by the way, works with the Trump campaign, an official survey for Daily Express US, conducted by the Democracy Institute, found 45% of respondents believe Trump won the debate while 34% handed the victory to Kamala Harris. If you wanna believe that from that one specific source, I'm telling you that's not the way the American public is looking at it today, but you can live and believe whatever you wanna believe, whatever makes you feel better and helps you go to sleep tonight with a warm glass of milk. Also, the CNN poll, Ed sends me this. Well, Trump did pick up points post debate on the economy, yes, and he should, because her answer was scripted and she didn't answer it, and it was atrocious before the debate, who would handle the economy better? Kamala Harris, 37%, Trump 53, that went up to Trump 55 and Harris down from 37 to 35. But that's one specific issue with a few different policies, mostly Trump policies, versus Harris's copy and paste job of Biden and Trump and Vance. But guys, yes, it's about the economy, stupid, but this election is not about issues. This election is not about proven track record versus incompetence. How many times do we have to tell you that? It's about Trump derangements syndrome, it's about facts versus feelings. - 'Cause that's all they have. - That's all they have, it's a bores, and now, here's an additional thing they do have, and I'm being fair and objective when I say this, Kamala Harris showed the American public, and by the way, the American public for the most part does not include this audience. This audience is a hardcore listening base to this station. I'm talking about the casual Tom Dick and Jane out there. They're sitting back as they're eating their popcorn, drinking their diet, Pepsi and saying, "Kamala Harris got a little bit of balls on her, doesn't she?" That's what they're saying. If you don't accept that, if you can't believe that, then leave me alone, 'cause I live in reality. I'm not sitting here this morning with my MAGA hat on. I'm telling you what happened last night. If you don't like that, I don't care. We'll talk about it, you can, I'll give you my phone number, and I'll also explain to you the way the tooth fairy works. So you can live in that bubble, that's fine. But I try not to, even though I'm rooting my ass off for Trump, and I want her to go down in flames, that was not a great night for Trump, and that was not a bad night for Harris. The only thing I think objectively we all can say, ABC News should cease to exist. They have no credibility. That was a disgrace, and here's what's gonna happen. Here's what you're gonna get today, okay? From all the people that you follow on Twitter, like the Johnny Maggas and these guys that spend their day tweeting about one man who's 78 years old, they're gonna, all they're gonna do is grab about ABC, because there's not a lot of moments where you can sit there and say Trump was on his A-game. But I'm giving it to you from all three vantage points. The good, the bad, the ugly of Kamala, Trump, and ABC News. And by the way, there's no, there's no good with ABC. It was all bad and ugly. So if that bothers you, that's fine. - I don't think Trump had a quote unquote, bad night. - I don't. I just think it was a, it was a, as my kids say, mid. It was mid. And so I think that it was, it's good that they're gonna do a second debate now. That's a good thing. - They are, are they? - Yeah, they, that was the back and forth. - Oh wow, okay, I did not know that. - Yeah, so that was the latest one on there that they said that they would do a second debate. - Actually, can we, - Yeah, let's can tell, Phil, can you, wait, we're, I mean, - Are we over? - We'll wait, the clock today is gonna be a mess. Phil, can you, can you pull up Cut 26? You have Cut 26. This is Trump talking about whether he'll face Harris again 'cause yes, the Harris campaign wanted another debate. Do you have Cut 26, Phil? And if you do, just roll it. - Maybe we don't have it. - That's fine. - All right, we'll get to it. - Yes. - We'll take a quick break, we'll come back, we'll get that clip. And then let's get into what the second, apparently a second debate, what that means and if that's good for either of these candidates. And where will the second debate be? 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It made me so boil and mad last night the way they ganged up one Trump, three against one. It was ridiculous, in my opinion. And let me tell you, they fact checked him but they sure didn't fact check her at all. And they let her evade questions. - Yep, I agree. And the fact that she was able to spew fine people on both sides and bloodbath and that went unchallenged, just showed you how in the tank ABC was for her. 855-839-1210, Mike in East Norton. Mike, you're next, you go ahead. - Hi, good morning. Can you hear me? Gotcha, pal, got right ahead. - I watched the debate last night. I agree, I didn't think it was fair on the moderator's fact checking. But the thing I took away from it was, you can see it appeared to me that the campaign trail, Donald looked a little tired. But right till his cell, he's been out in the public so much. She did look well rested. She had that smile on her face that was trying to get him to take the bait, which I do think he did. Unfortunately, I think that the country is heading in the wrong direction. And I do hope that most people got a takeaway from it that he has the right plan for us and we need to turn the page, but turn the page in the right way, not turn the page in the wrong. - Mike, more importantly, were you at a local Wawa in the last day or two? - I did want to tell Dawn that I am the guy in Wawa. You spotted your husband a couple of months back. He came into the store and recognized him. And I said, "Hey, Larry." And he turned around and I said, "Just told Dawn I try to listen as much as I can in the morning. And I like the affectionate name that she calls you, "Lair Bear." (laughing) And he kind of, when he comes into the store, I don't call him "Lair Bear." (laughing) And I do say hello to him when I do the store. I'm the guy, I'm Mike in Fort Washington. - Got you, there he is. - Mike in, yep, Mike Fort Washington, Mike East Norton, all the same, "Lair Bear." I like that, there you go. 855-839-1210, the phone number, we will come back. Second debate, does it help Trump, does it hurt him? Same thing with Harris. And what is the impact of a major endorsement from America's biggest star? We'll get to that as we continue. The cut sheet at 745, the news up first, when we come back, stay right there. - Start your day with Kaylin Company, week three morning, six till 10. I'm Tark Radio 1210-W-P-H-T and the free Odyssey app. - Let's get to the news, round number two at 705, the great Dawn Stensland. And good morning, we are sponsored by Indeed in Kaylin Company News Live. The body of Philadelphia police officer Jamie Roman was led by his fellow officers to a funeral home early this morning, he is the Philadelphia police officer who's been hospitalized ever since he was shot. Gun down during a traffic stop, this happened back in June and we received word actually last night from the police commissioner Bethel that in fact, officer Jamie Roman had lost his battle to survive after that shooting. He served in the 25th district and he, you know, he was were told surrounded by family, had bravely fought since that shooting. This is the case of 36 year old Raymond Rodriguez Vasquez being held right down $12.5 million bail in the situation. And I had detailed it during the six o'clock news as to what happened here. But the bottom line is this was a police officer who should have been able to do a routine traffic stop, gun down by this suspect who we later learned. In fact, back in 2011 had fired on officers in Puerto Rico after alleged carjacking. And so many questions still surround the situation. Why did Vasquez, why was he able to flee Puerto Rico come here and now essentially do the same thing? So we have that going on this morning. Just so at the FOP lodge five and a lot of love and prayers and say a prayer for the Roman family, he's a wife and children. So and it's a reminder for, you know, families who back, you know, behind the badge and that's something that, you know, you've, you've been very involved with Nick and Greg and fundraising, Greg Stalker sucks, which he does not suck, but Gregstalker sucks.com. - According to the chat today, I do, sir. Depends on which sources you'll look at, but thank you. - Who's saying, so saying stuff about you in the chat? - Yeah, just, you know, people are just like where we are. - You know what, Greg, you do it to yourself, pal. - We are. - Do it to yourself. - The debate wasn't as bad as we're saying and I think magma, magma, man thinks that I know everything and I portray like I know everything. I'm like, okay, you guys can believe what you want. - No offense, you've been doing this for 20 years, but just as far as Trump winning, I don't know if this means anything, but I'm a little surprised. I just got a text from an anonymous texter. I mean, Greg, you probably know who it is. C-Spans, Twitter poll from last night, over 170,000 votes, who won the debate? 75% say Trump. - Wow. - I didn't expect that coming from a C-Span Twitter feed, but whatever. - Tell, tell, Harry, thanks. (laughing) And to, I will say this, that we needed last night for Trump, the one thing I disagree with Greg about is that Trump did not lose his fastball, but what he learned is, you know, the night before the Super Bowl, you don't wanna be playing a game out on the West Coast and then travel. - I just said he didn't have it last night. - He didn't have it last night, yeah. So just had a, so didn't have, so here's the thing that Trump, you know, my God, look at the last, even, not even two months of his life, but since the time he was shot, went right into the RNs, it's been a whirlwind since July 13th for him. And so you think about that eight weeks of his life at any age, at any age, if you're 20 years old, you'd be exhausted. - It's been a whirlwind eight weeks from me since my family moved back up here, I'm shot too. - Yeah, see? So think about, you know, but think about that. So think about what he's been through. He has never slowed down, and this is an opportunity now. Mr. President, we hear that sometimes you watch or listen, so take a breath, you know, take a breath for yourself, take a moment, and during the next debate, you know, just slow down on the rallies and focus in on it. That's my, that's seriously, and don't listen to anybody else, don't let anybody else get into your head, 'cause he has great instincts. - Yes. - We'll stop listening to, don't listen to what I said to social media people. - Yeah, don't listen to social media. And unfortunately, you know, I think Fox was among the news sites that were reporting that dogs were being eaten in Springfield, Ohio or whatever. - And I always stop sending me the article of things. This person did, and this person says this. - Lee, it's, it's stop, it's just stop. - Me? - No, no, no, no, not you, I'm talking to listeners. - Look, would you see this? Would you see this? - The social media lies to you. Let me say that again, social media lies to you. - Thank you. - Meanwhile. - I don't get my news from social media. You know, and for those of you criticizing Greg, do you know, 'cause my buddy, our buddy boy died. Do you know Greg and Stephanie Stalker, here's Greg. They said, I get this beautiful box, this beautiful package. I was like all teary. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You just, and your dog died? - Didn't I tell you? - No. - Not a horrible person. - Buddy boy, the dog that you live with, buddy boy. - Buddy boy. - The one we talk about on the show. - Yeah. - When did this happen? - I thought I told you. - No. - I'm so sorry. - Well, when did this happen? - It happened. It happened right around Labor Day over the long weekend. - Oh, I'm sorry to hear that, Don. I did not know that. I'm a big dog finder, a fan, as you know. - Yeah, I know you are. - Yeah. - Aw. - I'm so sorry I didn't tell you. - Yeah. - And so Greg and staff's on this beautiful box with, you know, like food and comfort food and chocolate cookies. - You don't have to do this. - I know I don't have to, but people are saying stuff about you. - He's saying his heart real image. - I know. He's, yeah. He probably doesn't want to, but you know, we kind of cried in the, you know, I'm out of a clint moment in the hallway. And so that's Greg. Greg has so much heart. And so. - Thank you. I knew the book, wow. He used to, I just, I know he was. - He's still the news, right? You didn't have to. - Okay, sorry. - Well, it's news to me that buddy. - I'm sorry. - I enjoy, I enjoy taking, I enjoy taking bullets. You know what I mean? - He likes looking like the, he likes looking like a tough guy, but he's got a soft heart. I'm just gonna say. But in any event, we also, we have so much going on locally, nationally. And as we think as a nation, 830 this morning, that is when commemorations really begin across the country. And of course, in our region, for example, in Lower Bucks County, the community coming together to honor the 23rd anniversary of the September 11th, 2001 terrorist attacks with many commemorative events scheduled across the region. So here in Philadelphia, Bucks County particularly, was hit very hard with 18 people alone in Bucks. And so we think of those families and whether or not you were born at that time, there are so many commemorations, including the Garden of Reflection, which is so beautiful. So I guess they did not hold their candlelight evening ceremony this year. So I guess they're not doing that. They're gonna do it for the 25th anniversary in 2026. But certainly we're holding them in our prayers and making sure that we honor the dead and as well those first responders still battling the health problems after bravely running in and trying to help recover after that horrific terrorist attack. So we also have in Philadelphia work underway right now to break down the security perimeter around the National Constitution Center after the presidential debate last night. So crews are still removing the last of the fencing and the barriers to reopen, fully reopen that area around the site and it's expected to take still a couple more hours. I will say I just had seen an update that PennDOT is doing these rolling closures around that area. So just a heads up if you're communing, if you're coming in that they had within the past half hour closed, for example, the I-676 eastbound ramp to the Ben Franklin Bridge. That was shut down again this morning. So they're doing these rolling closures. So just pay attention to that heads up on that one. And as far as debate reaction, I know we'll get to more on the debate reaction. Tulsi Gabbard, she had X-ed out and not tweeted out, but this debate is three versus one. But Chris Christie had put out the word that those moderators should be fired. So just some reaction as we look at him. - Chris Christie did it. - Oh. - Chris Christie. - And that's ABC's his employer, his former employer. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He was saying, excuse me, did I say the moderators? - Yeah. - I apologize, I misspoke. - Okay. - He said the Trump's prep people. - Oh, wow. - Pardon me, thank you for catching me. - I was gonna say, man. - David, we're fired, that's a take. - No, I don't agree with Chris Christie on much, but he is correct on that. His debate moderators, or debate coaches should be fired. - Coaches, yeah. - Well, that's what you were saying earlier with Tulsi Gabbard and Laura Loomer. - Yep. - Yep. - So we have all of that going on. And Tay Tay, who's expected to sweep up in the VMA rewards this evening, issued minutes after last night's high stakes, presidential debates, the pop star Taylor Swift, has shared a lengthy Instagram post. I'm sure that everybody, you know, saw it saying that she'll be voting for the Veeep Kamala Harris and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz. - So many were saying that this is, you know, she can now kiss her Republican Trump supporting fans. Goodbye. Do you think she has a lot of that? - I'm not sure that she does, but whatever ones that she does, I think they're, you talk about Colts, now I'm gonna get ripped for this, the Swifties are a cult. - It's true, oh, 100%. - So this is why-- - Which is why-- - I know every time I ripped Taylor Swift on Twitter, my mentions explode. - Everybody can poo poo this, but like, you know, what mass of Taylor wants, she gets. - We'll talk, yeah, we're gonna break that down as well as the second debate after the news for sure. - She signed her post, Taylor Swift, childless cat lady. - Mm-hmm. - So that was the way that she-- - Boy, I'm gonna bite my tongue until the next segment. - Okay, sir. (laughs) A lot going on. - How's that pic of JD Vance looking? - I know. (laughing) - Should have listened to Dawn. Done, had Sarah Hochler's standards, yeah. I don't think she would have said that. - Nope. And we do have some important economic news. If you're wondering why the, you know, you look at the futures, they were down today. There's more economic news to be released today, so we'll be watching the markets and as well the latest economic news. That'll be huge when it comes out. But we're sponsored by Indeed. Need to hire? You need Indeed. They're all in one platform, helps you attract interview and hire candidates all from one place and Indeed's interview tool, lets you schedule and then conduct virtual interviews right from their website, visit indeed.com/credit. - By the way, speaking of the Taylor Swift endorsement, Elon Musk, bro, it's not being creepy. Did you see what he tweeted about this? - No, I didn't. - Like he offered to give Taylor Swift a child. - Well, I mean, I wouldn't want to offer a child, but you know, what happens before the child's created? I don't know, I don't know. You see her at that Chiefs game last week, bro? There's boots. (laughing) - How many kids did this? - She neuters men, though. Did you have, have you seen Travis Callisie with his dumb hair now? - Yeah, and his mustache. - And his mustache. - Oh, get his mustache. He's singing along with her and like, eh. - Maybe, maybe, yeah, maybe for November 6th, if we get the results and regardless of the results of the election, maybe I'll come in one day and I'll just have nothing but a mustache for a show. I'll do the Travis Callisie mustache on YouTube. - My answer to Taylor Swift, though, is that, you know, if she and Travis have a baby or whatever, you know, she can afford to have her baby. You know, she can afford to have her baby. A lot of families, after relations are doing plan B, because in this economy, they're saying, you know what, we can't risk getting pregnant right now because of this economy, we just can't afford it. - Yeah, I can't afford to have my kids either. By the way, my kids are for sale. (laughing) - Stop it. - Wendy said no one is voting for Harris because of Swift. - Okay. - Okay. - I'm gonna save my take for after the news. - Okay, okay. - Wendy, I hope you're right. - Oh, yeah, okay. - I'm gonna have a little coffee here. - Okay, but it's not, the thing about it is, it's not a surprise. - Now, of course not. - No, we all figured. - We all knew she wanted to. - Yeah, but by the way, was she waiting for Harris to not suck? - I think that she, yes. 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This is Killing Company News Live. - All right, Don, thank you very much. 855-839-1210, the official endorsement, the words of Taylor Swift. We will give you those. And more importantly, and I want to stress, more importantly, what should happen and should debate number two happen. And when will we get it? We'll get to that next year on Killing Company. - So you've heard me talk about Chapman Windows doors and siding. I just, I love the work that the Chapman family team has done in my home. And soon they'll be back to for some new improvements. This is the time of year, right? When you think about heading into the holiday season, entertaining, and so whether you need some windows door, they really do it all and they do an incredible job. But if you're thinking about updating your front entry door right now is the perfect time for the entire month of September. Chapman is offering free hardware on a brand new front entry door up to the value of $500. 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But I do think the Taylor Swift endorsement matters. I posted a poll question on X. Will Taylor Swift's endorsement of Kamala Harris have an impact on the election? 67% say no, 33% say yes. I actually think that's an accurate sample. I think it's probably two to one that it won't. But the fact that one third of people believe that, I actually believe they are actually on the right side because I don't think her endorsement matters exponentially. But in a razor thin, let me think about this. Georgia decided by 10,000 votes, easily flippable for Trump. But you factor in a swift endorsement? Maybe that works against them. Same thing, Arizona, 11,000 votes. Pretty easy to flip that. Pennsylvania is gonna be more difficult. 154,000 vote difference from four years ago. But still, I think Taylor Swift will have an impact. Now let me rip her for this ridiculous post. Quote, she said this on her Instagram. I need to be very transparent about my actual plans for this election as a voter. The simplest way to combat misinformation is with the truth. To which I just wanted to provide a little editorial here and be like, you know what? Let's not talk about misinformation last night, Swifties. All right, because Kamala was spewing debunk lie, after debunk lie, Charlottesville. So it's a bloodbath on and on and on and on. And you could be transparent, Taylor, but we all know you were going to endorse Kamala as long as she didn't crash and burn. She says, I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walls in the 2024 election. I'm voting for Kamala Harris because she fights for the rights and causes, I believe, need a warrior to champion them. I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader. And I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos. I was so heartened and impressed by her selection of running mate Tim Walls, who has been standing up for, get ready for it. LGBTQ+ rights, IVF and a woman's right for her own body for decades. Now here's another thing where I have an issue with. She says, I've done my research and I've made my choice. I don't think Taylor Swift was spending hours upon hours doing research. Your research is all yours to do. And the choice is yours to make. I also want to say, especially to the first time voters, remember that in order to vote, you have to be registered. I also find it's much easier to vote early. I'll link where to register and find early voting dates and info in my story. Guys, and look, I get there's like a double edged sword here. It's like a double whammy. You hate Taylor Swift, I got that. You hate early voting, I got that. But when Taylor Swift is sitting out here advocating for mail-in ballots, I'm just gonna remind you, election date is not starting November 5th. It starts September 16th. So you can cry and kick and scream like a five year old being drug out of the mall. Or you can start voting on September 16th. Taylor Swift is going to increase the early lead for Democrats if you sit on your computer from September 16th through November 5th, tweeting about how you hate mail-in ballots. You want to start 400,000 votes in the hole? Knock yourself out. But I'm telling you, Democrats are gonna have the lead if you don't embrace what Donald and Laura Trump have been telling you to do. The system sucks, but it is what it is. Embrace it and utilize it like the Democrats do or lose. That's up to you. So do you guys think that the Swift endorsement matters? Because I would say yes, and they can rip me all they want. I believe the Swifties are a cult. And if you're a parent or a father of daughters, you can verify what I'm about to say. Last October, when that Taylor Swift era's tour concert that was put in movie theaters was out at the theaters, I saw women in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s. I don't know that I saw them in the 60s or 70s, but certainly 20 through 50 dress, it was just like the Barbie movie in the summer. They were dressed up like 16 year old girls on prom night. - Somebody said, somebody said, "Well, Taylor Swift has like the 15 year old endorsement." That's not, Taylor Swift has been around a long time. She does not have-- - In the realm of 20 years. - She does not have the 15, yes. - Millennial moms. - Yes, correct. There are a lot of people, women of voting age, that by and all are nonsense and all are crap. - Yes. - And we'll, you know, she's reaching the like low information uninformed. - Correct. - And if you think that there's not a sliver, maybe more than a sliver that are gonna do it just because she says it, you're fooling yourself. And by the way, these elections come down to a sliver of people. - Trump is already fighting an uphill battle against single, childless, career-oriented, suburban females. You don't think Taylor Swift just made it more difficult for him? You're outside of your ever-loving mind. - The, right now on the, 'cause Phil just put up the same poll on YouTube, 'cause Taylor Swift's endorsement matter right now. Let me see where we are here, 54% say no. - Okay, well, it's almost a coin flip. - Yeah, and again, it only has to be 46%. It only has to be 33%. If it's 10%, I mean, I remember about a year ago, roughly, don't quote me on the date, but she had some other sort of post where she was encouraging people to register to vote or maybe it was even registered to be a Democrat, but she got like 30,000 new registered Democrats, 35. I mean, think about that, 35 right there. That includes Arizona, that could flip Arizona in Georgia. If Arizona, Georgia was gonna go Trump by like 3,000 votes, well, that just gave it right back to Kamala Harris. - 45,000 people, let me repeat that, 45,000 people in a couple of swing states decided the last election. 45,000 people, she registered to 35,000. - Right. - So just remember that. - I will say, when Marsha, Senator Marsha Blackburn was up for re-election, Taylor Swift had endorsed her opponent who lost. So she, in her home state of Tennessee-- - Yep, I know Marsha. - She did not, Taylor Swift did not sway that election. I mean, obviously Marsha Blackburn is very popular there, but is Taylor Swift on a national level? So she did not impact a local election or a statewide election. So now, what does that mean on the national stage for presidential election? I don't really know, I mean, to Greg's point, these elections are so tight, but I really, honestly, you think of spring steam here in Philadelphia before the spring-- - Oh, I agree with that, yeah. - You know what I mean? - Yeah, it's different though. It's different though. - Yeah. - It's different. People are not waiting on their hands, their hands and knees waiting to hear who Bruce Springsteen endorses, you know what I mean? - Here's a thing with Trump last night. He talked about Virginia. I think it would behoove him to use the line that Glenn Youngkin has talked about, the pain threshold, that that's something that if Trump says that, that, you know, we have to think about the pain threshold. In Minnesota, Governor Tim Walz signed into law and repealed a baby's born alive act. What that means is that and estimated at least five babies in Minnesota, the last time they kept the stats, which was 2021, five babies who were during an abortion were born alive and they quote unquote died. So, you know, Trump was not wrong and with the ABC moderator, Lindsey, when she said, no babies in America are killed or executed after the abortion, well, the truth is that because of the repeal of the Born Alive Act in Minnesota, Trump was correct. You can please do your own homework. Don't take my word for it. Do your own research. That is a real deal. And Tim Walz actually repealed that Born Alive Act, such that abortions can be performed if the fetus is born alive. They actually have on record the fact that they, you know, can do what they do. - 855-839-1210. Christopher in South Jersey can feel my pain. Christopher, your own talk radio, 1210. - Good morning. You just have dogs talking about homework. I'm the father of three daughters. Last night, one of my daughters had homework to watch the debate within the first minute when they were asking Kamala if the economy was better and she went off on that tangent, my little daughter, my 14-year-old goes, look, she's deflecting. And I left my head off and I said, all we have to do is be good parents. Our kids are gonna pick up on that. And I'm listening to you guys this morning. I love everything I hear. Teach your children, man. It doesn't matter if they're Swippies. My kid went to the Harris tour up in Glassboro, at the sanitarium thing. They are independent minded, but we as good parents, we can still make it different. I just wanna say all the parents out there, check plugging away from 2024, we got it. - All right, Christopher, thank you for the call. Let's go, we'll stay in New Jersey. Lou is in Hamilton. He's up next, Lou, go right ahead. - All right, guys, how you doing? - Doing well. - Great show, great show as always. Listen, she won on performance. She got under Donald Trump's skin and that's all she did. She had no substance whatsoever. - Right. - Donald Trump had the facts. If there's gonna be a second debate, Donald Trump should absolutely agree to having notes because he has the facts on his side. As far as Taylor Swift goes, let me just say this, I'm on my way into work today at a manufacturing facility and people are gonna be laid off today because of the economy. - I'm sorry. - It's all about the economy. Those people will not be sending their daughters and their wives to an Aris concert 'cause they're not gonna be able to afford it. - Yep, yep. - Great, great show, keep up the work. Love you guys. - All right, Lou, thank you very much and sorry to hear about some of your coworkers and colleagues. - Thanks. - Well, we'll wrap here with Charlie in Philadelphia. Charlie, you're next up. You go right ahead, Charles. - Yeah, I think personally that Trump scored a victory and just control himself 'cause I thought he was gonna get a few minutes in there and like explode. I mean, everything she says is just a lie. I mean, she wants to redo the border now and the anatomy of it. She hasn't done nothing in four years. What's the change now? And I mean, what's she who've had for four years under the bed with Biden? I mean, and I thought he was, I'm sure his handlers told him, you gotta control yourself. That's the main thing 'cause if you snap out, you're gonna look like a caveman and you're gonna look like a wife feeder or something. You know what I mean? And all the women will be looking against you and he did that and he also looked very haggard to me and my wife, she even said it. She said, boy, he doesn't look good. I said, well, you know, he got shot in a year and got right back on a horse and started clogging again. You know what I mean? You gotta give the guy a lot of credit for his age and what he's been through, which it's amazing. - Sure. - Sure, especially with it being a three on one. I mean, Trump had to be his own fact checker last night, which maybe did, and if I'm being objective about it, even though I didn't think he had a good night, I mean, Kamala's got two moderators doing her fact checking. Trump's probably trying to think, as he's listening to her, okay, I'm gonna fact check her on this. I have to remember what my original point was. Then I have to have my rebuttal. I mean, you know, at 78 years old, you got a lot going through your mind in that setting. You know, that certainly does have an impact. We'll kick around the second debate concept and what we think of that as we continue during the cut sheet, we'll weave that in, and the cut sheet is coming up next. 855-839-1210, we'll continue to mix in your calls throughout the cut sheet, and then we've got Tony Bruno at 830. 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Tell Don St. You. - This is the Kaling Company podcast from talk radio 1210, W-P-H-D, and on the free Odyssey app. - Enough of us, let's hear the actual combatants and also the talking heads in the post-game fallout. Time for a Wednesday edition of What's On The Cuchy. - What's on the Cuchy? - What's on the Cuchy on this? A Wednesday sponsored by Cherry Hill Volvo. Enjoy back-to-school savings on a 36-month lease of a C40 for $369 per month. Down payment taxes and registration fees do at inception, except no taxes on the C40 in New Jersey. Imagine that, no taxes in New Jersey. Visit Cherry Hill Volvo today. All right, let's just go in order here. The first question that came out from the debate last night was on the economy. It's funny to see Kamala Harris talk about how like, you know, during my administration, I'm like, you've been in office for three and a half years. - Three years and 10 months. He controlled this. I feel cut eight Kamala Harris's response to the economy, cut it go. - Years ago, and your opponent on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters, are you better off than you were four years ago? When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago? - So I was raised as a middle-class kid. And I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America. I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, the dreams of the American people. And that is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy. 'Cause here's the thing. We know that we have a shortage of homes and housing. And the cost of housing is too expensive for far too many people. We know that young families need support to raise their children and I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of $6,000, which is the largest child tax credit that we have given in a long time. So that those young families can afford to buy a crib, buy a car seat, buy clothes for their children. My passion, one of them, is small businesses. I was actually, my mother raised my sister and me, but there was-- - No, she doesn't answer the question. - Of course not. - I'd be better off than you were. - No. - Four years ago. - And you noticed the nerves and the anxiety that I picked up on right away because those microphones are so sensitive. You could, it was almost like she was talking, but she forgot to breathe as she was speaking, which is imperative as a public speaker. But she started that debate off by reciting a scripted answer to a ordinary entry level routine question that, first of all, you know it has to be the top thing right off the bat, right? They're not gonna start on abortion. They're not gonna start on immigration. They're gonna start on economy. And I thought she totally botched that one. - Yeah. - People don't notice and it goes viral and it's clipped and it's not, and by the way, the moderators say, could you please, you know, the follow-up is, could you please answer the question? - Yeah, and then they stopped being moderators and went right in the tank for her because they know on that example, that issue, that topic, there's no way that the moderators can spin the economy against Trump and in favor of Kamala. - What was Trump's answer on that? Cut nine, Phil, this was Trump's answer on the economy. Cut nine, go. - She knows that we're doing tariffs on other countries. Other countries are gonna finally, after 75 years pay us back for all that we've done for the world and the tariff will be substantial in some cases. I took in billions and billions of dollars, as you know, from China. In fact, they never took the tariff off because there was so much money they can't. It would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do. They're taken in billions of dollars from China and other places they've left the tariffs on. When I had it, I had tariffs and yet I had no inflation. Look, we've had a terrible economy because inflation has, which is really known as a country buster, it breaks up countries. We have inflation like very few people have ever seen before. Probably the worst in our nation's history. We were at 21% but that's being generous because many things are 50, 60, 70 and 80% higher than they were just a few years ago. This has been a disaster for people, for the middle class but for every class. On top of that, we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane as silums and they're coming in and they're taking jobs that are occupied right now by African-Americans and Hispanics and also unions. Unions are gonna be affected very soon and you see what's happening. You see what's happening with towns throughout the United States. You look at Springfield, Ohio. You look at Aurora in Colorado. They are taking over the towns. They're taking over buildings. They're going in violently. These are the people that she and Biden led into our country and they're destroying our country. They're dangerous. They're at the highest level of criminality and we have to get them out. We have to get them out fast. I created one of the greatest economies in the history of our country. I'll do it again and even better. - See right there, did you notice the cool, calm, calculated demeanor of Trump? That was his best policy, laser focused tunnel vision moment of the night. And if I were to sit down with Donald Trump in a film room right now, you ever been in a film room or football team? It's dark. You get the projector back to this. You got the projector up and you're going through the game footage. I would play that clip. - I would play that clip for him and I would say do you can get laid. I would play that clip for you. And I'd say dude, it's Biden. Just keep doing that and you will walk out with the public saying, you had a great night. - Except when he says they kept the tariffs, we know what he's talking about. He needed to accentuate that and say the Biden-Harris administration, which has been in power for nearly four years now, they decided to leave in place my policy of holding these tariffs because even they, even Harris, the vice president, I would have said Biden-Harris because you have to accentuate, they've been in office. This is her administration and her administration even left my policy in place because it hauls in so much money for the country. - Yeah, you know what I would do? And let's just say, I'm just throwing a date out here. Let's say if they have a second debate, it's October 10th. From October 5th to October 9th, I take Trump's phone away, I take his laptop away, I take social media away, no rallies, no TV appearances, no nothing. And I stick him-- - I can't do that. - I stick him in the basement and I get him so prepared. - It's not, it's not. - And he comes, he's never gonna do that. - It's not gonna happen, but I'm just saying-- - I know, I'll just tell you what I would do to make sure he comes out looking great. He would be like Matt Foley in the SNL skid down in the basement chugging coffee and come out like a cannon. - He would, if he just took it easy for two to three days because he is such, he has such an incredible work ethic and the guy has more energy than, I mean, most people we know, so-- - Including me? - I would say, yeah, just take a couple of days. By the way, the vice president of the United States was not working apparently as the vice president of the United States for the past five days. She was here in Pennsylvania, made no appearances and apparently we're paying her. She's on the payroll, but she took it easy for five days to memorize those answers and that's the best she could do and to start out nervously like that. You have to remember that. So all he has to do is he does, I think he does need to take at least two days before the next debate, rest up. - Yeah, I agree, that's why I'm saying. - But I'd be fresh. - She brought up Project 2025, tying him to that right out of the gate, cut 10 fill go. - And dangerous plan called Project 2025, that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected to again. I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together. No, we have so much more in common than what separates us and I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans. - President Trump will give you a minute to respond. - Number one, I have nothing to do. As you know, and as she knows better than anyone, I have nothing to do with Project 2025. That's out there. I haven't read it. I don't want to read it purposely. I'm not going to read it. This was a group of people that got together. They came up with some ideas. I guess some good, some bad. But it makes no difference. I have nothing to do. Everybody knows I'm an open book. Everybody knows what I'm going to do. Cut taxes very substantially and create a great economy, like I did before. We had the greatest economy. We got hit with a pandemic. And the pandemic was not since 1917, where 100 million people died. Has there been anything like it? We did a phenomenal job with the pandemic. We handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than it was before the pandemic came in. Nobody's ever seen anything like it. We made ventilators for the entire world. We got gowns. We got masks. We did things that nobody thought possible. And people give me credit for rebuilding the military. They give me credit for a lot of things, but not enough credit for the great job we did with the pandemic. But the only jobs they got were bounce-back jobs. These were jobs bounce-back. And it bounced back and it went to their benefit. But I was the one that created them. They know it, and so does everybody else. Bye for now. Again, I thought very good rebuttal from Trump. I don't know how many times publicly he has to say that he in no way is going to implement Project 2025. He's given his 20-point bullet-point agenda for 2024 and beyond. And he's talked about it. It's been posted on websites, social media. That was the first of many lies from Kamala Harris. That being said, it still doesn't mean that it won't land with some voters. And some voters might say, what's this Project 2025? And they look at it and they go, oh my god, I can't. No, but yes. I mean, he has distanced himself from that. And now, the only criticism I would give is, you can't say nothing about it, and you've never read it. And then say, some of the ideas are good and some are bad. Well, how would you know that if you didn't read it, dude? I mean, like, come on, man, like, don't be as a BS, or I'm sure you've looked at it. And you could say that, that's fine. You've owned it, you've said you're not going to use it, you're not utilizing it, you're not affiliated directly with it, and that's good. And I believe it because we, at the end of the day, you know what's happened? We've lived his first administration. So all this, you know, threat to democracy and radical stuff, I mean, my god. Trump's like us, and Trump's a centrist, if you listen to Bill Clinton from 1995, you would think he's a Democrat. It's funny, J.M.R. on the YouTube chat says, he sounds better to me on the cut sheet. Do you guys feel that from watching it last night? Oh no, I mean, as opposed to the clips that I'm playing, do you feel like he? No, he sounds better? No, because I thought he sounded good in those two clips regardless. Okay, I do. I thought last night, economy and project 25, he was good. I do, but, you know, and we're hearing this from more and more people who are big Trump supporters, he did look, he did not look fresh. He did, he looked either, either, whether he was aggravated, and let's just face it, it is aggravating. It's aggravating, the moderators were aggravating, the fact that they, you know, let some things go and didn't, the fact that even Snopes we talked about came out and debunked that claim that he was saying, remember Charlottesville? Blind people. Right, and the fact that they let that go, and then the fact that they said, you know, after he's talked about Tim Walz, repealing the Born Alive Act, which is correct, he was fact-check, so I don't know whether he was aggravated with the monitors or what really was going on, but he did seem like he wasn't that fresh, quick, you know, Trump that we see at rallies and so on. Yeah, well, here's the thing. I think rally Trump versus debate, Trump is different. I also feel like the first two answers last night was almost carbon copy from June 27th, where he was almost low energy, but in a good way. And then he did get antagonized and agitated, but he also, and this is where he, I actually give him credit in one setting where I actually think he shoots himself in the foot in another setting. At times when he gets a little too loosey goosey at the rally, it kind of works against him from the standpoint of the media taking something out of context, but usually he's really buttoned up from the standpoint of being able to walk in the lion's den. And look, CNN was the lion's den, right? Jake Tapper, Dana Bash, they're no friends to Trump. We know that, but last night something was different as we got about 20, 25 minutes in. It's like Kamala's nervousness wore off and Trump's composure evaporated. So I'm gonna lift the curtain here a little bit. Here on the radio, we do segments and stuff by what we call quarter hours. And it's 15 minutes of an hour. So like last night, nine to nine 15, and then nine 15 to nine 30. If you, the majority of people, I'm gonna say this again, the majority of people did not watch the entire debate last night. I think the majority of people probably watched the first 30 minutes, 35 minutes. - I think that's fair. - So in that 30 minutes, what do you see? You see the economy, which I do think Trump was good on and Kamala Harris was nervous. The second question though, about abortion. And I don't think he was strong on that answer. I don't think she was particularly strong either, but I just think that it was, and then the question after that is when he started going into migrating people's pets. - Right. That's the first 30 minutes. - Yep. This will be the one time where I guess I'm going to, I don't even know if I can give them credit 'cause it's so obvious. Like why praise somebody for doing the obvious, but they started with the economy, which should be the number one issue. I think is the number one issue, which is clearly advantage Trump. But then I think they gave it back to her and put the ball in her court with abortion, which is clearly the Democrat's strong suit, right? - Let's go to that next question on abortion and the overturning of Roe v. Wade. This is cut 11 Harris on what Trump will do nationally for abortion, cut 11, Phil Gough. - Back in place, the protections of Roe v. Wade as president of the United States, I will proudly sign it into law. But understand, if Donald Trump were to be reelected, he will sign a national abortion ban. Understand in his project 2025, there would be a national abortion, a monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages. I think the American people believe that certain freedoms, in particular, the freedom to make decisions about one's own body. So there's one takeaway that I had during that. And again, I have said many times on this show that I think Roe v. Wade, June 2022, can be the death knell to the Republican party. But I actually liked the way Trump handled it and I know we didn't play Trump yet and that was Kamala. But as far as the national ban, I'm in favor of what Trump ultimately goes on to say, what you'll hear here is that he doesn't have to. And he said, he's already said he will not. Although I think last night he did not answer that question directly when the moderators asked him would he sign a national ban? Because look, he doesn't have to say it nor does he likely implement it because it's back to the States. And I think his whole objective was to get this out of the federal court system and make this a state by state issue. So in Trump's defense, regardless of where you stand on female reproductive rights or pro-life pro-choice, however you wanna frame the subject, again, it's already resolved, at least in his eyes. It's back to the States. Tennessee is different than Pennsylvania. Ohio is different than California. So I don't think that that was terrible from him. But I also don't think Kamala, if that's her wheelhouse, I don't know that she would knock it out of the park either, which is kind of one of my criticisms of her today. Well, now the bar has risen for her. - Oh sure. - Because she was not horrible. She did not have a major gap and the moderators made sure of that. And if you think about what Greg said and that's significant, I think part of what very well may have knocked Trump off a little bit was when the one Lindsey, the one ABC moderator, contradicted him and said no babies are executed after birth in America. Well, he was talking about Minnesota in particular and he was correct, look it up for yourself. I think that in part did knock him off a little bit. - Well, I'm gonna play his answer, Phil, let me play this one. I'm gonna play the answer that he gave on abortion here. - I wanna turn to the issue of abortion. President Trump, you've often touted that you were able to kill Roe v. Wade last year. You said that you were proud to be the most pro-life president in American history. Then last month, you said that your administration would be great for women and their reproductive rights. In your home state of Florida, you surprised many with regard to your six-week abortion ban because you initially had said-- - By the way, this is why people hate these news moderators. Could Lindsey, what's or not, and Muir be any more stiff? - I know. - And like-- - Okay, Johnny, back to you. - Yes. - Like no personality. - Nobody talks like you. - No, never in a smile or reading it, just robots. - Yes. - And it's why the first thing when they came on it, look, welcome tonight. It's just like, oh God, can you give me personality? - David is such a zombie, it's nauseating. - Just have all these facts in their heads, like Rain Man, and they're just like, I mean, I just-- - Yeah, sorry. - Yeah, they're savants. - They're-- - No, they're not savants. They're reading from a script or reading from a prompter. They're not savants, and they were off. And, you know what, they're getting panned this morning. They're widely panned. - Good, all right, a little bit. - And they deserve it. - Good, a little bit more. - That it was too short, and you said, quote, I'm gonna be voting that we need more than six weeks, but then the very next day, your reverse course, and said you would vote to support the six-week ban. Vice President Harris says that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of abortion, because you've changed your position so many times. Therefore, why should they trust you? - Well, the reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is, as you know, the vote is, they have abortion in the ninth month. They even have, and you can look at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia, not the current governor, is doing an excellent job. But the governor before, he said, the baby will be born, and we will decide what to do with the baby. In other words, we'll execute the baby. And that's why I did that, because that predominates, because they're radical. The Democrats are radical in that. And her vice presidential pick, which I think is a horrible pick, by the way, for our country, because he is really out of it. But her vice presidential pick says, abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also says, execution after birth. It's an execution, no longer abortion, because the baby is born, is okay. And that's not okay with me, hence the vote. But what I did is something for 52 years, they've been trying to get Roe v. Wade into the states. And through the genius and heart and strength of six Supreme Court justices, we were able to do that. Now, I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother. I believe strongly, and Ronald Reagan did also, 85% of Republicans do exceptions. Very important. But we were able to get it, and now states are voting on it. And for the first time, you're going to see. Look, this is an issue that's torn our country apart for 52 years. Every legal scholar, every Democrat, every Republican, liberal, conservative, they all wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote. And that's what happened. Happened. Now, Ohio, the vote was somewhat liberal. Kansas, the vote was somewhat liberal, much more liberal than people would have thought. But each individual state is voting. It's the vote of the people now. It's not tied up in the federal government. I did a great service in doing it. It took courage to do it. And the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it. And I give tremendous credit to those six justices. There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born. It's a lie. Madam Vice President, I want to get your response. That is a lie. Yeah, I don't. That is a lie. Look it up. The Born Alive Act in Minnesota, and you just please, look it up for yourself, because this was widely reported by all media. But this was-- Tim Walz repealed this in 2023 last year. And so he repealed a law that said, if a baby was-- if an abortion, let's say, was botched. And the baby was born alive. You were supposed to consider that baby viable and not do-- there was against the law in Minnesota to do anything to harm the child you were supposed to treat the baby, et cetera. Tim Walz repealed that. And so at this point in Minnesota, and there are some states, like-- and also DC, where there are really no limits. And you can look it up for yourself. I'm not saying anything that's crazier, right way, or anything of that nature. But that was wrong for Lindsey to say that. Yeah, well, that was in her real house as a female. And I was honestly not surprised that she did it. I was expecting that to be the subject where she pipes in. And look, there's two things here. One, I think Trump handled that well as far as explaining what his goal was, what he did, as far as getting it back to the states. He also cited statistics that almost 8 and 1/2 out of every 10 Republican that is pro-life also does believe in the exceptions, as far as rape, incest, preserving the life of the mother. But here's the reality of the situation, regardless of statistics, or facts, or common sense, or whatever you might be. No matter where you stand on the issue, you can't run from the fact that since Roe v. Wade occurred in the summer of 2022, and Trump kind of alluded to it there. And you heard Greg's comment as well, 9 and 0, Kansas, Ohio, maybe more liberal than people expected in those states. Certainly, Ohio being a red state, Republicans, when abortion has been on the ballot in the last two years and four months have lost every single election. So you can be pro-life all you want, but here's the thing. I've always said, if Trump doesn't undo Roe v. Wade, I still think every Trump supporter is with him. I don't think you're bailing on Trump if he didn't get that accomplished and appeased you. But I will say this, if left untouched, I truly believe this. And there's two things I truly believe as far as election results. Number one in 2020, if not for COVID, and if not for George Floyd, Trump is still president. And number two, I do believe that this is the bugaboo for Republicans, in a world where there's more females, and more females that are younger or skewing further and further left, and they are single, and they are childless, and they are career-oriented, and they hear people like Kamala talking about female reproductive rights, that gets them emotional. And I truly believe, even those that are not polled, that's a silent group of females out there that might not have a Harris Wall sign in their yard, they're coming for your boy on November 5th. I'm telling you that, I'm telling you that. - This is the moment at 9/27, last night, 9/28, when the debate went off the rails. Kamala Harris went after Trump insulting him on his rallies, and that's when they had the eating pets answer. - I'm gonna start, Phil, I'm gonna play this one. This is how it started when Kamala Harris intentionally got under Trump's skin. - And I'll tell you something, he's gonna talk about immigration a lot tonight, even when it's not the subject that is being raised. And I'm gonna actually do something really unusual, and I'm gonna invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies, 'cause it's a really interesting thing to watch. You will see during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter. He will talk about windmills caused cancer. And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. And I will tell you, the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you. You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams, and your desires. - Talking right here. - And I'll tell you, I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first, and I pledge to you that I will. - Vice President Harris, thank you. President Trump, on that point, I wanna get your response. - Well, I would like to respond. - Let me just ask though, why did you try to kill that bill and successfully so that would have put thousands of additional agents and officers on the board? - President, may respond as to the rallies. - So then he responds to the rallies. So that's the first part where she knew how to get under his skin. - Yes. - And then-- - But again, this is where I mentioned in the big take, style versus substance, stylistically, that landed, substance-wise, completely false. I mean-- - Yeah, you needed to say-- - Right. - Are you kidding me? - Right. - After letting, you know, after letting at least 15 million people into this country-- - I was thinking specifically on the rally stuff, but no, you're right as well in integration. - No, he shouldn't, boom, David. Are you kidding me? You're asking me about this proposal that she's talking about? - No, and it's all good. - After she's in, she is in this administration right now. - Yes. - To let all of these people in. - Right. - And by the way, that proposed legislation came three and a half years into her administration. - Yeah. - They let all of these tons of people come in, and it was bad legislation. - Yeah, yeah. - That's what he needed to say. - Oh, yeah. - Well, and I've said too, you know, from a bottom line standpoint of, you know, the politics of this, wait a minute, it's like, for three and a half years, you didn't want to fix the border, and now you want me to give you the get out of jail for free card down the stretch run in an election, and maybe this is sinister to say, but this is, and maybe it's diabolical, but this is politics, I'm sorry. You guys were responsible for a lot of deaths and rapes and assaults. I'm not letting you off the hook here and shoring things up for you. I was like, well, it's a, it's in a, Trump would rather run on the problem than fix the issue. You know what? In June of 2024, you're damn right, I'm going to run on that. I'm not helping you out now, no way. - So I'm going to play a little bit more of this, and then I'm, and then Phil, I'm going to go to cut 13 on QU when I, when I get there, but this is when he gets distracted about the, about the, the rally sizes. You know, he, he took her bait. - She said people started leaving, people don't go to her rallies, there's no reason to go. And the people that do go, she's busting them in and paying them to be there. And then showing them in a different light. So she can't talk about that, people don't leave my rallies. We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in the history of politics. That's because people want to take their country back, our country is being lost. - There you go, so, so. - But see, you know what? Here's where I push back on the Harris stuff, if he doesn't make it about the people. His whole platform is about the people. I mean, from the economy to crime and wars and our border. I mean, I mean, we lived it. I mean, I don't know about you, but when I was paying 213 for a gallon of gas, I felt like, you know what? Yeah, it's, it's helping me. I'm part of the people. I mean, the people have been decimated under the Biden-Harris administration. But to me, at the end of the day, this is, you know, the rallies mean the world to him. And his rallies are kick-ass. They're very cool. Like, I've never seen anything like it. But as I've said on social media, like on a Saturday in the summer when there's a rally in Wisconsin and all the, all the grifters are all, look at the site. Dude, the rally, so first of all, some of these people go to every single one. They travel the country in Winnebago's. That's number one. But again, it's just like the same thing with social media. What, I see, you know what the new thing is now? Oh, so-and-so got ratioed. Oh, he got ratioed. Dude, ratios don't mean a damn thing in elections. We got to stop worrying about the petty stuff of like rallies and speech sizes. It does not mean somebody's going to win or lose an election because of it. For her to say anything about his rallies, you know that she's just trying to get on her skin because-- Oh, I know. It is, it, nobody has ever seen anything like his rallies in politics. Nobody's ever, like it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the most, love Trump, hate Trump, whatever. You can't, you can't take away the passion that people have for him. And these rallies are right there to-- No doubt, prove it. But I do agree with you that it's not, it's not indicative of, of, you know, winning an election or not. Just like, lawn signs aren't either. I've never seen Trump's odds and polls and problems. You've never seen his probability or his polling numbers move based on a rally size. Yeah. Trump's answer to that should have been this. The only time people left one of my rallies was July 13. Well, I got shot. After a gunman shot, Cory Kapitor, uh, uh, a comparator and killed him, injured others, and tried to assassinate me. That's the only time anybody, including me, left one of my rallies early. And I vow right now to head back to Pennsylvania to Butler PA, where we will honor Cory and his life. Yep. That should have been what Trump said. Boom. But instead-- But instead, he talked about, uh, about migrants eating pets. Uh-huh. Cut 13. Cut 13. They'll go. People to come into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States. And a lot of towns don't want to talk. It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield. A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in, they're eating the cats. They're eating-- they're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's happening in our country. And it's a shame. As far as rallies are concerned, as far as the reason they go is they like what I say. They want to bring our country back. They want to make America great against. Very simple phrase. Make America great again. She's destroying this country. And her reaction to that, where she was kind of laughing at him and making him look foolish. That's being played all morning long. It makes him look crazy. Now, do you have the part where he says I saw it on TV? That's a little bit later in that clip on that subject matter. I don't think I do. I think it was when weird jumps in. It was in my big take. I'm sorry. I think I just heard Don say that. Yeah. It was one of the clips in the big take. And as soon as he said, well, I saw it on TV. I immediately thought of this. Can we stop getting our news from Twitter? Because, look, I didn't know about whether the story's fake or not. But the point being, I didn't know this story existed until yesterday when Don, you brought it up and then you and Greg were arguing over it. I still, I mean, other than paying attention in the last 24 hours to what he's claiming has happened, I was oblivious to this whole thing. Well, I think the story, the story should be, the story should be, this town in Springfield, Ohio is, they have an immigration problem there. Yep. And 20,000 people have descended on a community of 55,000. Okay. And what's, and what's, what's data says again? You said Springfield. Ohio. Springfield, Ohio. Okay. I would say it descended, but in 2014, there was an article by the, in, in, in one of the premier papers in that town, basically saying, our population here is dying off. We need, we need an immigrant influx to breathe some life into this town again. So it looked like they, they wanted, they wanted this, or at least the, the politicians there, wanted this. So it's not just like they were dropped off in the middle of the night. Let me ask this question. This has been a 10 year thing where these people are coming in. For context, I think this is an important question. Is Springfield, Ohio a red town, or is it blue? Oh, I'm sure it's red. Okay. I'm sure it's red. Yeah. And Republican, Ohio Governor Mike DeWine released a statement yesterday and says he, he does not oppose that temporary protected status program that they have. Yep. And he's a Republican. So what he is saying and what they're saying in that town to your point, maybe they wanted some people to come in the problem is maybe legally. Not like that's the thing like Republicans of this label. We don't want any. No, we just want you to come here the proper way and oh by the way, not be the bad ones that are rapists and murderers and assault artists. That's all we're talking about here. But this whole debate should be about immigration and that's a fine debate to have. The problem is that social media grifters turn this into Haitians eating cats. And it all started on some private Facebook chat. So all I'm saying is that it's a legitimate issue. PBS NewsHour did a 10 minute segment on it. The New York Times wrote a story on it 10 days ago. Like there is a real issue in this town about immigration and how it's affecting the community. But it's being overtaken by this stupid conversation that, you know, might be true, might not be true, who knows. But like you're not seeing the actual problem in this town. And what Trump should have said, just say the facts, say on Monday, the Attorney General in Ohio has announced that he's directing his office to look into filing a lawsuit and to stopping the federal government from sending quote an unlimited number of migrants to Ohio communities. So Trump could have said that that even communities that welcomed a legit asylum seekers like Springfield, Ohio, the problem is all of a sudden, you know, they, yes, they were welcoming. But now they're sending an unlimited and on vetted number of individuals. That would have been appropriate for Trump to say and it's creating a humanitarian crisis. As I said in the six o'clock hour, instead of cats and dogs, you could have said two other words, "Laken Riley." I mean, if when we talk about the police brutality stuff, right, I said when the Laken Riley tragedy in Georgia on the campus of Athens happened, I said, Republicans, this needs to be your George Floyd moment. And they have totally forgotten about Laken Riley. Again, this is messaging. Democrats for four years have been giving us George Floyd, George Floyd. I mean, Tyree killed in the news, George Floyd, George Floyd, a black man in America, the whole bit. Laken Riley, immigration is your winner. Greg has said it. This election could be immigration versus abortion. Your ace up the sleeve next to the economy is immigration in the border, and you got caught up in cats and dogs. That's where this is where a disciplined debate coach, like a Rich Dioli, or, you know, I said, Chris Christie, would have prepped him on the facts, but instead you have Laura Loomer and Tulsi Gabbard, who lived their entire lives on social media, telling him about these filling his head with his crap, because you know he didn't see this stuff. He's not on social media. He's not. Oh, Trump? Yes. He's not on social media. He definitely is. He only does his post on truth social. He posts, but he doesn't. Oh, you mean following accounts and things? But, you know, in those moments to mention, so he was, I think he also conflated, and this goes to better debate prep, where he conflated, you know, multiple stories about immigrants and migrants. He could have, so for Governor Mike DeWine, their daughter, Becky, died in a car accident years ago, and I believe his father, Tom Hagen, who was, you know, obviously a Catholic priest, who they knew, has schools in Haiti named them after their daughter. And that's the Haiti connection with Republican Ohio. So they've invited people who are in a place that we know is torn by gangs, but the problem is, and that's what Trump could have focused, should focus on, and we all should focus on, that even when they're welcoming legit asylum seekers, now because of the Biden-Harris policy, you have people who are, you know, not like the other Haitians who are a very hardworking family, people who want to escape, you know, a horrible situation in their home country who have legit asylum, you know, paperwork going through. So you have, in fact, people praying, people coming here illegally, illegally, because of Biden-Harris's policies, they're praying on those very Haitian migrants who've come here as legit asylum seekers. Do you see what I'm saying? So those are the kinds of things that Trump could have said where, because a lot of those Haitians are Trump voters. You don't want to broad brush and say they're all bad, they're not. I agree with one thing, Stocker said, disagree with the other. I agree on, I disagree on Tulsi Gabbard. I don't think Tulsi Gabbard is feeding Trump social media conspiracies. I do agree that a lot of that comes from people like Laura Loomer, and this is not to knock any of these people, but this is the truth, and I'm just going to rattle off a few Twitter feeds. I'm just telling you right now, all they do is give you one side. If you think ABC is biased towards Kamala, these people, that probably some of you, if not many of you, follow on Twitter, they're not giving you the clear, true story and the picture from the Laura Loomers. Look, and some of them, they get it right sometimes, but they're cataclysmically wrong on a lot of other issues. I know everybody likes to tweet and follow that cat turd guy. That guy's a loser. Don't follow that guy, okay, because he's only telling you what feeds your brain and your ego. And there's a bunch of them out there, and some of them follow me. I get along with most of them. I've had private conversations with them, but I'm telling you, like the Jack Passobics of the world, they're Charlie Kirk. They're not your buddy. They're in it to make up to ride the Trump train to profit. Stop listening to the 22 people that you follow that just feeds you the minutiae. Please. It's not the real world. On Harris banning fracking. She was called out by the ABC moderators. She said she would not ban fracking. Cut 15, Phil. Go. My values have not changed, and I'm going to discuss every one of it. At least I stopped her for a second. I'm sorry. And then he'll start it over. The way they worded it, I forgot about this. The way they worded this, they're like, so you flip flop of this, this, this. Now we know your values haven't changed, but your policies. Leaving questions. Thank you. Let her say her values are not changed. Don't give her. Don't hand her rope. 100%. That's why she, because that then gave her the opportunity to come in and say, no, my values have not changed. And then lift, and then list her values. It was such a layup for her. Phil, can you start that cut over, please? My values have not changed, and I'm going to discuss every one of it, at least every point that you've made. But in particular, let's talk about fracking, because we're here in Pennsylvania. I made that very clear in 2020. I will not ban fracking. I have not banned fracking as Vice President of the United States. And in fact, I was the tie-breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act, which opened new leases for fracking. My position is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy, so we reduce our reliance on foreign oil. We have had the largest increase in domestic oil production in history because of an approach that recognizes that we cannot over rely on foreign oil. As it relates to my values, let me tell you, I grew up a middle-class kid raised by a hard-working mother who worked and saved and was able to buy our first home when I was a teenager. The values I bring to the importance of homeownership, knowing not everybody. All right, so there you go. To me, this is very simple, and you can tie energy to the economy. If you're a Pennsylvania resident, as 80% of this audience probably is, a factor in South Jersey, Delaware, maybe some people that stream around the country, most of our audience, Pennsylvania, I would assume. If you care about the economy and a cheaper cost of living in Pennsylvania, you have to vote for Donald Trump. I know our audience is going to vote for Trump for the most part, but it's clear as day. And the economy has been impacted by energy. Why is your grocery prices up? Because it costs more to create those products and then ship them in. That's why we have the inflation. She can sit here and say we're creating more energy and more oil and blah, blah, blah, blah. Here's what I know. Okay, here's what I know. I'm paying 338 a gallon. My energy for air conditioning and soon to be for the winter with heating is astronomical. It wasn't under Donald Trump. I mean, I think we all realize this. So, but it's just so disgraceful. And it just, because I'm angry with the way Trump dealt with some things last night. I'm a little agitated by Kamala's lies, but honestly, and I'm not making it more. It's one third of the pie. ABC is just so disgusting. I mean, and we knew, and I shouldn't be triggered. I mean, I'm the one who gave the stats yesterday. It's 100% positive for Kamala. It's 93% negative for Trump. But if we could, to your point, and we don't have to play this, but I'm just saying, go back and listen to the way they framed the abortion flip flop claim questioning and the line of questioning to Trump. And then listen to how they just teed her up for the economy on. We know your values haven't changed. Right there is the bias that Don talks about all the time in the media. You know what that was? Trump's question about the abortion issue was like Nick Castellanos getting hit by a 96 mile an hour fastball. And Kamala Harris getting propped up for that question on the economy with values not changing was like my little nephew, five year old nephews landed at tee ball where the coach literally placed the ball on the tee and said, Okay, go right ahead swing. But hold on. Let me get away. So you don't hit my finger. So aggravating. One more. And then we have to break for Tony Bruno, who's us who's chomping at the bit. Oh, he's doing he's doing to will there be should there be another debate? Oh, Trump on all with Sean Hannity last night after the debate. This is cut 26, Phil. Go. Paying is saying tonight, Washington Post is reporting that she wants a second debate. What's your answer? She lost. She wants it because she lost. Do you have an answer? Well, I don't have to think about it. But if you won the debate, I sort of think maybe I shouldn't do it. Why should I do another debate? She immediately said we want to know that that's you know what happens when you're a prize fighter and you lose. You immediately want a new fight. You want to rematch the guy that won is sort of happy and thinking about it. Would you be inclined to say yes or maybe if it was on a fair network. I would do that. But I think let Hannity moderate it. Yeah, no, I think I did Newsome and and Ronda said this would be fair. You would be fair. Actually, you want to know the truth. I'll let you both talk. I'll let you go at each other. I thought they would be fair. They weren't. But I felt very comfortable. We have the best policy. She has no policy. I'm not a Hannity fan. As many people know, but I do think he was fair with Newsome and DeSantis in that debate. Look, when I think about second debates and I just jotted these down before the cut sheet. When it comes to the Trump perspective, I think he's damned. If he does, damned. If he doesn't, if he doesn't do it, it's viewed as him ducking her. If he does do it, keep in mind now she has the experience of one under her belt. And I think it's only natural to assume her confidence grows. But Harris also from her perspective, she could rest on just the one good night. Take the mainstream media praise. We gave you all the headlines at six of four this morning and she could just ride right to November 5th. Now or she could on the other side. She could come out. And she could just ride right to November 5th. She could on the other side. She could come out and risk the equity she has built up and it could completely evaporate like her honeymoon phase over the last 10 days or or she could build off of that and even have a better showing. So I think there's many ways to look at this. I do think Trump should demand it to be on Fox. And I don't think you need to have Hannity. Just just put Brett Bear and Martha McCallum out there. They're very good at what they do. They're pretty down the middle. I think sure they skew right. Obviously the network they work on, but I don't think Harris would agree to a Fox debate. And if for some reason she did, it will not be with any other primetime people. I think it would be with a bear and Martha McCallum. Or maybe even a Dana Perrino, maybe a Harris Faulkner. Then there's no way she's sitting down with Sean Hannity zero chance. Yeah, I think it would probably be NBC because CBS is another home game for her. Well, because it's ABC last night. The vice presidential debate goes October 1st with CBS. So would it be NBC then NBC Lester Holt? I think he's, I think he would be good. Certainly better than last night. Oh, well, nobody could be worse than that. Nobody could be worse than that. I got after last night, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash look like MAGA fans. By the way, I'm going to put this out there. There will be no other debates predicting it right now. OK, I think there's a chance. 836. All right, for me wrong. You know what? Honestly, we always talk about trying to come up with new ideas. And I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but I know it'll never happen. Why not take one? Do it. It's simulcast that anyway, right? So it was, yeah, technically it was ABC's production, but Fox carried it. Why not get a moderator from Fox or just bottom line, get a moderator that's conservative, get a moderator that's liberal and make it a 50 50. You want to take Kristen Welker and the dude down in Florida. Does the National syndicated show? That sounds like he's ready to die and then find by me. Just get, just give me some balance here. I'm not greedy. I don't need it to necessarily be Fox people. You want to give me Brett Baer and Kristen Welker? OK, let's do that. You want to talk about fair balance in partiality? Let's do that. OK, I'm going to say something about just appearances. Trump with his hair color went a little darker. I noticed that. And I think he looks better as a blonde. I like the blonde. I would do blonde highlights. That's the analysis that we are all. That's my brilliant. I like that. I like that. You know, the issues. Let's talk about that. Let's go. Greg. Thank you, baby. So according to Lori on Fox and Friends this morning, Trump said he would not do it with Brett and Martha. I did see that on social media. I didn't know that was true or not. But if you say that is, and it was on TV, well, according to Trump, it's on TV. It's true. So, but I came out of his mouth then. OK. Early voting has started Pennsylvania starts voting Monday. There will be no more debates. Thank you. OK. Coming up next, Tony Bruno live from Florida. We'll get him for a good half hour in here. We've got a big three to get to the morning mystery movie clip a lot to hit on before we get up on out of here. But we ship it on down to Southwest Florida next here on Kaling Company. Summer is still here. 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I mean, everybody knows what happened. The biggest loser last night, ABC Disney. David Muir. Here's the thing that really gets me about David Muir. According to the ads, David Muir is the number one news anchor in all of television. What does that tell you when people sit down and watch a guy who looks like a robot? The guy has no emotion, no juice, no nothing. And the fact that that debate last night that Kamala Harris and everybody loves fact chapters, 21 unchecked lies. They allowed her to go on with. And again, Trump wasn't on his A game. Obviously, he took the bait, especially with the stupid comment that she made about the rallies. She baited him because she's been working for a week. While she's not at Penzy's spice store in Pittsburgh doing staged events, you know, she's getting, she's being told what to say. The thing about the debate format, I don't like guys, is that they're not allowed to question each other. And that's the thing. You can't, you see how they could say, well, we're going to ask you that. We're not going to shut your mic off. All this other stuff. The debate should not be moderators who have the questions and then decide what the topics are. The abortion lies that she told fact check she lied. There are multiple states that allow abortion up until birth. And so when the lies go unchecked, and we all know a lot of people aren't into politics now. Here we are in September 11. By the way, 23 years ago, today, we all know where we were, and never forget. So that's the most important thing on this day, which I remember every single year and everybody else should. But, you know, ABC was a big loser. And everybody knew it. I mean, there were stats that David Muir gave 100% positive commentary on Kamala Harris. And 90% negative on Trump. So everybody knew going in, ABC was a joke. I don't even know who the chick was. Who was that Lindsey chick? Does anybody know? No, nobody knows. I think the last name is Davis, but I'm still okay. I'm still not even certain who she is. And by the way, why Pennsylvania is such a big state? Why not take Tamala Edwards, who does the political Sunday show for six ABC, most powerful ABC affiliate. I would have rather, I would have rather seen a local mom like Tam do that if they were going to have, they want, they clearly wanted a woman and a person of color. But I would say Tamala Edwards, she would have been more fair and she would have brought it home in a more like mom common sense kind of way. So what do you think, Tony? Do we, you know, assuming in a perfect world for the debate, unmuted mics, notes, and then a moderator from both political spectrums? I think there should just be the two candidates and a referee. Judge Mills Lane is no longer available. Maybe judge Joe Brown. We get somebody in the middle and then let the candidates yell at each other for an hour and a half with no commercial breaks. And then let's get, let's have a peer six brawl. Let's have a WWE style debate. Let's see Kamala Harris without a week of cramming somewhere in Pittsburgh, try to come up, because let's be honest, her closing statement was basically the same stuff we hear at every one of her rallies. And here's the other tell to me is that after the debate trumps back out on the floor, talking to all the media, and she's in a back room somewhere with her husband on a stage, you know, right in front of all of her sick offense. So she didn't go out and take one question after a debate that people say she won and probably did. But my question is if people who had not paid attention to politics all year and now we're sitting at home on a Tuesday night, the school year is underway, and watch that. Did Kamala Harris impress more people, or did she come off as smug, and then she did the thing with the hand underneath her chin. I think a lot of people who had never saw her before probably said, man, she's smug. She's laughing at talks about tragedy, and she was so well rehearsed, and she had a week to prepare for that. And she did a good job, but she was lying and nobody fact checker. That's the biggest take from this, the fact that she got away with 21 irrefutably false statements and not wants to David Muir or that Lindsey chick ever correct her. Yep. Is this the biggest embarrassment of the night? In regards to a second debate, one of our great listeners Marcus Aurelius tweeted us and he said, there will be a second debate, but it will be in late October after all the mail in an early vote tonight. Exactly. So it'll have no impact. Is there a cutoff point if you're Trump, if you want to do a second one where you say, okay, we have to do this, but we have to do it by September 27th. Who knows? I mean, obviously Trump doesn't make the rules. ABC got the debate. They made the rules, and obviously they brought in two really biased moderators. And it's amazing that CNN actually has more credibility as a debate moderator than ABC News. Once one of the greatest news organizations on earth, now the laughingstock, we can all agree, and it's not, you know, me, I'm a media guy, but the media to me has been the biggest enemy of democracy in this country, the last 10 years. We have the most corrupt media on earth and proud to right now that the people who run prob there and those Russian channels, they're grimacing at just how inept and corrupt our media is. They're the very bad guys here. You know, the politicians are going to be politicians and watching all those people walking around that convention floor. Is there a worst group of media people than smarmy media people who go to political events? Many of them eating. I saw Andrea Mitchell eating Chinese food in the room. I mean, these people are just professional grifters and there are no journalists in there. They're all people who want to be important, and they all want to have their opinions. And that's fine. Have your opinions. Listen to them who you ever want, but the bottom line, there is no other than media people at the Super Bowl. You know, but those media people in Super Bowl where they're having a good time, the media people who go to conventions and go to political events, they're all angry, ignorant, low life, crumbums. If I could be nice. I want to fight them. And I'm wearing my Jim Kenny, the worst mayor in Philadelphia history preview chair today. I see the celebrate. The self to celebrate. They think the constitution that they know and yours. They didn't show last night. They didn't show the constitution. They're in the Constitution Center YouTube show it YouTube.com slash at 12 10 W Ph D. If you want to see Tony's Jim Kenny shirt blue with a with a clown's nose on it. It's amazing. Last week we'll continue the conversation in the nine o'clock hour because we're going to keep you around for a little bit longer for sure. Taylor Swift comes out and I gives she gives her endorsement last night on social media. And I think Don and I are both on the same page when we said that there's no doubt that she was going to vote for Harris, but she wanted the way to see if in fact she held her own and didn't crash and burn. And she didn't crash and burn last night for sure. But do you think the swift endorsement carries any weight whatsoever? I don't know who knows, you know, young girls like her. But her comments about how she's even handed and all this other stuff. She's vapid. Let's be honest. Is it vapid or vapid? That's one of those words at vapid. I like vapid better but vapid. I don't fake. And I don't smoke anymore. And I don't even inhale. And I don't even chew. I don't even put a pinch in between my cheek and gum like we used to back in the day. You know what I'm saying? Go pinch. Little red man. Yeah. Little pinch. Did you ever do the pinch between your lip and your gum? Yeah, yeah. I did in high school. No, I never did chewing tobacco. I never did the little bullets. I never did any. I mean, you know, I remember back in baseball back in the '93 season when Lenny Dijkstra and a lot of NBA and NFL players were involved in the big, you know, chewing tobacco controversy. People were their faces. Their faces had to be cut off because of the chewing tobacco. So chewing tobacco in the '90s was bad, but they're still doing it in some places. But that's to me. I never got that. It's nicotine, obviously, and you're addicted to it. But I don't get people putting the big wads in their mouth. I mean, what pleasure does that give you? I used to love it. By the way, you know what the other big loser was mean last night. Why? Why? I was not at the Murphy gas station in Love Land, Sugar Land, Texas at a Murphy gas station where one person won $800 million in the mega millions last night. Wow. One person, $800 million. If you want to take it in lump sums, you'll be collecting $20 a year for the rest of your life. If you take the cash amount, this shows you how corrupt the government is. $800 million, one person won it. If you want to take the cash payout, $404 million. $404 half of the money is going to the government. Is that an unrealized capital gain? How do you tax the fact that you won $404 million out of an $800 million jackpot and the government takes half of it? Tell me how that's good. Here's the million dollar question or maybe the $800 million question, Tony Bruno. Had you have won that last night? Would you be reporting for work this morning, sir? Oh, no. I would be down there. I'd go right back to my house and keep doing work and it's going up nicely. But I'm coming up short. I'm going to have to do a go fund me soon. I may have to ask people to send a don't send any more money to Taylor Swift or Kamala Harris or Donald Trump or any of these politicians send your money to dear old Captain Tony because it'll do good. And I'll even I'll even give you a week in my house. Wow. Look at that. We can do Bruno. Nice. That's like a movie. We can't prove us. We can't prove us. By the way, we're streaming live on YouTube, YouTube.com/1210WPHE. Everybody watching right now, please hit the like button, the thumbs up button. It's free. And please hit the subscribe button. Everybody that's watching everybody. Please hit the subscribe button. It's all free, but it helps us out tremendously. It costs you nothing. Yes. Sorry coming up. Don't forget to follow me and Tony Bruno show on X. Yes. I'm being throttled again. Well, no, sounds like a personal problem. Not not banned. Not banned throttled. Yeah. Yeah. I gotcha. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Put that stuff away. See where we're going here. All right. All the other viewers shutting. David, you're shutting me down. It's gonna be a wild nine o'clock hour. This is a man. We still have to get Bruno's thoughts on the Tyreke Hill arrest and also the Philadelphia Eagles Packers game from last Wednesday and more thoughts on the election and the debate and what looms ahead here in the final 54 days or so. Nine o'clock hour, Bruno sticks around and we are back after this. Start your day with Caitlin company weekday morning, six till 10. I'll talk radio 1210 WPHT and the free Odyssey app Trump JD Vance Kamala Harris Chuck Schumer and others. I don't think I've ever seen those four or five people together that close. Maybe ever. As we know Trump and Harris face to face for the first time last night. Tony Bruno. I know today is a lot about the fallout from the debate, the impact of the election where we get a second debate. But again, we can't lose sight of what happened 23 years ago today. We've all kind of shared our flashbacks to that day where we were. Could you share that with our audience where you were on September 11, 2001. Well, I was actually in LA when I had moved Los Angeles to start Fox Sports Radio. So I got there in 2020. And so fast forward first year on the air that morning of September 11 in 2021 to 2001 I was on the air with Andrew Ceciliano. And we were doing a sports show and we were goofing off about Michael Jordan back in that day. And then all of a sudden we had a bank of TVs in our studios in Los Angeles. And I see the first glimpse of the building being hit and smoke was coming out. We didn't know it was an airplane. We didn't know it was going on. And so at that moment, once we finally realized that it was a terrorist attack, we dropped sports and Andrew and I both with news backgrounds immediately went into news mode. We went into journalism mode because, you know, sports talk is irrelevant when you have the greatest story. When I say greatest, the most impactful story. Many people in their lives had ever seen. We stayed on the air for nine hours because I didn't want to leave the studio. We were stunned. We were getting phone calls Larry King called into the show. I had friends panel Brian was supposed to be on that train on the plane from Boston. And nobody could hear from them. So it was we were getting news breaking every 10 seconds back then. And everybody was glued to the radio. So it was one of the proud moments of my career because you can't run away from the story of that magnitude. When your audience is listening and every year on this date, I get emails from all over the country of people saying that they remember where they were that day and they were listening to me on national radio. So again, a proud moment for me, but also I was living through just like everybody else, the shock and the disbelief of what we were witnessing on that day. Tony Bruno with us from Florida. So a couple of other stories that we have to get your thoughts on outside of 9/11 and obviously the debate last night. The Tyreek Hill body cam footage and the arrest or the detainment that occurred on Sunday during the pregame shows probably around 11 o'clock before a one o'clock kickoff has certainly been one of, if not the top two or three stories for the last couple of days in the news cycle. And my big takeaway was that, look, you know, we're the officers like, you know, a little sarcastic. Were they a little combative and test the yes. But again, he broke the law. He didn't adhere. He didn't comply. He was dealt with. And my big takeaway was, I'm tired of living in this world post George Floyd for the last four years where it's suddenly optional for you to comply with officers. If you just do what they ask, you will be well on your way. And this would have been a big nothing burger. I still think largely it is a big nothing burger because you compare it to the Scotty Scheffler situation. He was actually put in a prison in a jail holding cell, but your thoughts on Tyreek Hill and the way this whole thing went down. First of all, you could say I have my cat here and my cat has been marked safe from Haitian immigrants. So this cat will not be eaten anywhere today because she's a beautiful rag doll. Miss Lily. All right, let me get around. Yeah, I mean, listen, I saw the video and then I saw I'm watching the Monday night pregame show and Ian Rappaport on NFL Network was calling it shocking, shocking story. And he basically was going and again, if cops do bad stuff, I will call out the cops. But here's the thing, he was going very fast. If you've seen the video and the cops were Hispanic. So it wasn't a race thing. And let's let's put yourself in this place. What would happen to you if you had a $700,000 car. I have two of you had a or two of those. And you're going 100 miles an hour or really way above the speed limit. And that's the lane that goes into the parking lot where the dolphins play at hard rock field in Miami. So you saw there were cones, it was going down to one lane and he wasn't late for the game because this was way before the game. So it wasn't like he was trying to get there and he was late and wasn't going to play. He got to the game on time. But put anybody else in that situation, you know, in a lot of states, you can't have tinted windows. So just on the violations of Florida law, he had like five violations. The fact that he wouldn't lower his window when he finally stopped is one of the biggest concerns that police have. You know, you don't know who's in the car. You think they know, does it matter if it's to retiree kill? No, it mattered because he got away with it. But if it's somebody else in a car, it doesn't have to be a $700,000 McLaren. But if it's a regular car and it's got tinted windows and you're speeding and you get pulled over and you refuse to lower the window. And then when you do, you don't have your seat belts on, right? Then you close the window again. You don't show the cop your hands. I don't care what color you are where you live. There were at least five law violations in that one incident. And forget about the attitude and the cop bringing him out. He didn't comply. And they didn't know what was going on with the cops a little overzealous. They didn't hurt him. No. And then play as Campbell shows up in his $700,000 SUV. And he gets involved. To me, any other person. If it's, you know, what would happen if it wasn't tirey kill? If it wasn't tirey kill any person in that situation would have been arrested put in a put in jail, taken in a squad car, and his car would have been impounded. That's what would have happened to anybody else who violated that many state laws in that dangerous situation. What happened if he hit somebody going that fast, going to the game? What happens if people walked in the middle of the street and he hit them? You know, would that have been, would that have been okay? So he got away with a lot. And the fact that they're turning this into an anti-police thing. And then he goes on CNN with his lawyer the same night and now is blaming the cops. You know, and then the Miami Dolphin team puts out this ridiculous statement where they say, you know, we're disgusted by the conduct of the Miami Day cops. And in the meantime, we still love working with the police, though. We want them to protect us. And we want them to make sure they're outside the stadium in case there's a brawl between the Jets fans and Miami Dolphin fans. You can't have it both ways. Listen, I'm not, I'm back to blue and I will call out any cop that does something wrong. But the just could say that the cops acted stupidly as Obama once said about the cops that went to that guy's house up in Boston when Obama started this whole race baiting thing back in his early in his first term is a joke. He broke the laws and he got away with it. And he should be grateful that he wasn't put in jail and he wasn't facing major, major fines. Now he's the victim. Yeah. And that's the nonsense that really pisses people off. Well, and I'm so glad you brought up the, the officers ethnicity because you're right, they are Hispanic. And he, those officers, both of them specifically one I know for sure said, don't try playing the race card with me. We're color of people too. So don't you're not going to work that nonsense in because they've had to deal with all this crap for the last four years. And you know, I mean, Sunday, I'm a Stephen A. Smith is tweeting about it. Jamel Hill is writing about it. So all the race baiters that are the defund the police segment of sports media immediately wanted to make this a major police, major racial thing. And I'm looking at it from the perspective of specifically Jamel Hill, who then comes out and says that Steven, Steven Ross, the owner of the dolphins, who's a big Trump supporter. She blames him because she says, well, under Trump, there's going to be no prosecution and police will be able to operate with impunity. And I'm thinking, wait a minute. So you really think Steven Ross wants to see or have his star receiver that he's paying a hundred plus million dollars to get arrested for a traffic violation. But when you live in this little prism Tony of only seeing thrings through the racial prism and racial lens, it totally clouds your objection, your objectivity and your ability to view what happened here. He broke the law. He didn't comply on top of it. And yeah, the cops, you know, were a little bit over the top with them. But if I'm assessing blame, it's like 90% Tyree kill 10% the police at best. Exactly. I mean, if I got, and I've gotten stopped many times driving and didn't break the law and didn't know what happened, I pull over. I put my hands up. I don't do the hands up. Don't shoot because that was debunked as a lie too. I put my hands and I say, you know, when the cops as well, you know, drivers license and registration, I take it out. I give it to them. And then I say, sir, why am I being stopped? And then we'll tell me why. And then everything's good. And if I didn't break the law, I didn't break the law. If I did, I get my ticket and I move on. But the people defending this and trying to make it about Trump is just an absolute joke. It's an absolute joke. How many cops have been shot in the last year doing their jobs, responding to, you know, domestic violence incidents and cops are getting killed every single night by criminals. Yeah. And who wants to be a policeman anymore? That's why people don't want to become cops. We just had the story. Don gave the update this morning of the officer that was on life support since June after that situation in Kensington. And he passed away. So, yes. Yeah, they just saw, you know, the officers just transported his body this morning. It's awful to a funeral home. So, you know, this whole anti-cop thing and, you know, Trump's a racist and all these tired, tired lies is just ridiculous. Just ridiculous. I mean, anybody who can't see through this really doesn't doesn't pay attention. But it is Biden, Harris, Trump, JD Vance and Mike Bloomberg, all at the 9/11 ceremony in New York this morning. And that's the way it should be. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Partisan look for sure. No doubt about it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Bipartisan. Let's wrap here in about the final three or four minutes. We had the Eagles game last Friday. Feels like an eternity ago. They're getting ready for the home opener Monday night against the Falcons long 10 day stretch between games. I heard a lot of people, you know, upset that the Eagles didn't look good. And I agree, they didn't look good. But this to me was not like last year where they were 10 and one and they were winning, but they were struggling and then the bottom fell out. I mean, this was, if I remember, the spread was two points. And they were able to win by five against the good team. So I don't think that this is a bad win. I feel pretty good considering it was pretty sloppy. I agree. I mean, it was sloppy for both teams. The field was a joke. Nobody could get their footing. You know, take one on his first run slips in fall. So both teams had a play on a bad field. And they had to keep changing their spikes. But then the Eagles, you know, the Eagles play poorly. And then, you know, Jalen hurts. They were able to keep him contained so he couldn't run around the edge where he was successful. So good coaching, you know, by the Green Bay Packers, a good team. But the Eagles, when, when crunch time came and they were able to get back into the game and settle down and they had their big time performers, Saquon, you know, AJ Brown. The star players rose up and then Jalen hurts rose up in that final drive when he had to get him down there, run the clock down to where the, you know, where the green Bay Packers didn't have enough time to go down and score touchdown to win the game. So it's a win. Was it pretty? No, but with a new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator and things now back in back in shape, trying to get things and none of these guys played in preseason. That's the other big thing. But when you look at the two first games, the Thursday night game and the Eagles game on Friday night, both high scoring games. And so teams on offense is still going to dominate in the NFL because all the rules benefit the offense and the defense can't get near anybody. And that's the bottom line. So a big win on the road. People are still mad that the Eagles had to give up a home game in Brazil. But the good thing is nothing bad happened. Everybody seemed to have a good time despite the playing conditions. And the fact that their quarterback got hurt. And nobody wanted to see that. But that was a hard fought game. And the Eagles, that's a big, big win to start the season with a whole new coaching staff for the most part. Yeah, I would agree. Lastly, let's get to the Phil's 87 and 58. They are now up eight on both the Mets and the Braves. By my math, they're up eight with 17 to go. Is it time to thank the Mets and Braves for participating in divisional title races? Well, obviously the Phillies are doing what they have to do. Every time they lose, everybody goes crazy and fairly, right? But they're the best team in baseball. Nine to four, they win last night. There was a bench clearing incident where they threw at Nick Castellanos in the ninth inning of the bottom of the eighth of a nine four game. The bench is empty. So they're still fighting this team. They just got to make sure guys get healthy. Swarber, by the way, Kyle Swarber knew Major League record, his 14th lead off home run, the most in baseball history. And, you know, I know Ricky Henderson was a better lead off hitter and there are a lot of better lead off hitters statistically. But there's never been a guy who looks like Kyle Swarber, who hits for a low average, who has been as dominant as a lead off guy where he's hit. What, 35 home runs and 14 of them in the lead off spot. An amazing, amazing statistic. Indeed. Tony Bruno. Great stuff, brother. We'll talk to you next week. All right, I got to go fact check myself and see how many times I lied. And I'm called David Muir and see if he's awake and see if he even bothers to show up at ABC today after that embarrassment. He should be suspended for a week without pay. I agree. After that performance. He should be assigned. He should be assigned a desk to a desk duty Tony. He should be sent to Rochester at the ABC station up there and try to get his act together. Exactly. Send him back to the minors. Great stuff, brother. Thank you. All right, guys. Have a great one. There he is. Tony Bruno live from Florida. This is the Kaling Company podcast from Dark Radio 1210 WPHD and on the free Odyssey app. Let me, we got a lot of 9/11 stuff that's a nice refresher to break from some of the Trump stuff. Obviously a commemoration of the tragic days of 23 years ago. Let me go to line two. I've got Frank in South Philadelphia remembering 9/11. Frank, you go right ahead, sir. Good morning. During the rest of the people that are on the station today. I'm standing in my South Philadelphia veterans memorial. It's called awful one that I built. And I'm I got the flag, the American flag at half mass for all the people that died at 2900 plus at 9/11 23 years ago and he first responders. And also, I'm I got it up here. The flag at half mass for this 18 people that died in the middle of Middle East, which. Sleepy Joe or Joe. It doesn't know and and left in Hainina, Harris. That didn't show no respect to the 13 gold stars. Never went to the cemetery for four miles away from the cemetery. And she didn't have the respect or the honor to turn around and go see the goal saw people there to honor the men and women that died over there, the 13 and Afghanistan. Yeah, to to in to in Jordan. I'm I'm sorry to in on the on the on the two navy seals and also the the three in Jordan. They got killed over there. It's it's it's sad that they don't this administration showed no respect for the soldiers or show 40 9/11 people that died over there on the attack on terrorists. And I guess I guess they made it with the terrorist people, the country that are terrorists. Well, Frank, she did post on social media, you know, a few days ago or maybe two weeks ago, three or four sentences with a screenshot of her official letterhead, but you're right. It's a it's a look. We know who's far more pro patriotic when it comes to the country when you look at Republican versus Democrat for sure. Dave is in Atco, New Jersey. He's got some comments. Dave, you go right ahead. Okay, on this summer day, the perfect movie. You picked World Trade Center. Yes. Yes. Congratulations. Oh, Dave, you're the movie winner. Yes. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I thought you wanted to talk about 9/11 in the World Trade Center, but yes, you're right. That is the movie clip. Congratulations. You get the Jeff Lynch. Thank you very much. You got it, Dave. Thank you very much. And lastly, let me get to another Dave in Southampton. Dave, your own talk radio 12/10. Yeah, how you doing? Listen to talk about Tyree Kill. Yeah. You know, the guy obviously broke the law and then he acts like a thug when the police get there. But bottom line, like, you know, he didn't go to jail, like another high part profile athlete, Scottie Scheffler, a few months ago. Correct. I mean, all these race hustlers talk about white privilege. You know, white privilege led to Scheffler getting an orange jumpsuit, a mugshot. Yep. No, you're exactly right. And again, look, and I've brought this up in the past. I mean, I've had, you know, times where I've been pulled over for speeding. I can admit that. I've been probably pulled over in my lifetime four or five times. And in 20, I started driving in 16, 24 years, I've probably been pulled over five or six times. And I told you when I was 16, I got into an accident. And the only negative altercation I ever had with a police officer, because I believe 99% of cops are good cops and good people. And you're always going to have one or two bad apples for sure. And the cop, when I got into the accident, because I almost hit a bike cop, when I was in a different locale, 20 minutes earlier. And he heard it on the radio that six miles later, I got into an accident and I t-boned somebody because I went through an intersection. And that bike cop came up as my mom was there, you know, because I'm 16 at the time. And the cop said, and I've told this story on the radio before. You're lucky you didn't hit me because I'm about to rip off your head and bleep down your throat. And look, I deserved that verbal butt chewing. I really did. Was it over the top? Yes. Was he going to do that? No, I can separate fact from reality. But, you know, there are times when a cop is unprofessional. And I do think that those two cops probably didn't do the best job of de-escalating. But as I said with Bruno and I said yesterday, this is 90% on Tyree Kill. And the fact that the media and those with an agenda, which is why I waited till the body camp footage came out. The body camp footage is the concrete evidence, not some guy on social media that records 48 seconds and then shares it and everybody jumps to conclusions. We got to stop looking at like this snippet society we live in of 12 seconds out of 23 minutes and making these generic sweeping dispersions on somebody, which is why again, I think the body camp footage shows. Now, it doesn't mean these cops aren't going to get disciplined. It doesn't mean they're not going to get fired because in today's absurd climate of demoralizing and demonizing police, it's possible. But I don't think that those officers deserve to be fired at all. Maybe anything, just even though it was funny as hell, like the Jeff surgery on your ears made me crack up, but it probably doesn't deescalate the situation. This segment brought to you by Budget Blinds, ready for fall? 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Oh, that's right, you're playing the same thing. This is Cut 28, Phil. What did you see that brought you to a conclusion? I think it's important to remember that we are voting for the leader of our country and not who we like the most or who we want in our wedding party. But who is actually going to make our country better? And we're in an incredibly unique situation where we've had both of the candidates in office before and we've gotten to see what they would do. And when facts come to facts, my life was better when Trump was in office. The economy was higher, inflation was lower, things were better overall, and now with Kamala's administration, things haven't been so fantastic. And she's saying she can fix the problems that her administration has caused, but I just don't know if I can afford to take that risk. Well, and she's had three years and 10 months as the number two in command to make those adjustments, and she has failed to do so. I agree with everything she said. Unfortunately, I don't think this election is about results and bargain shopping and comparing product A to product B, which is the unique element of this, right? You can compare Trump's years versus her years. It should be if you're doing the blind taste test, it should be a no-brainer. But that's not the way it works, unfortunately. By the way, 23 years ago, exactly, and now the Pentagon was struck at 9.38 AM. I want to weave this stuff in. I do think it's important to make sure we remember this and never forget it. We started off, actually, we started off the show this morning at 6.05 talking about this. If you've just tuned in now and be like, "Oh, where was it?" We started off news. CBS is post-debate focus group on Harris. I am actually going to play this one, Phil. This was what their takeaways were. She just basically repeated everything that Biden has said in the past. What were your thoughts? Donald Trump made a strong closing statement by saying, "Why didn't they do all the things that she's proposing during the three-and-a-half years that they've been in office?" Biden did this entire moderate stance back in 2020, and she's trying to do it again in 2024, but she didn't talk about her policy changes between 2020 and 2024. Her whole centrist, moderate stance is just facade. Look, I totally agree with that as well, and when we're talking about the policies, it took up until the eve before the day of the debate. It was Monday night into Tuesday morning where there was no policy on her website, and she really didn't go into policy specifics again last night. And what's on the website is a copy and paste job of a lot of Biden's economic policies and the few that she has verbalized incoherently to the American public in the last three weeks. And some of it also plagiarized from Trump and Vance's platform. We discussed this earlier, Trump called into Fox and Friends this morning on the -- because we've been going back and forth about it -- if there's going to be a second debate, my stance is a firm. Absolutely not. There will not be a second debate. Nick, would you like to give your? Yes, I do not think right now we will see a second debate largely because twofold. One, Kamala Harris is probably -- if you're looking at Kamala Harris from a stock perspective, after that debate in the mainstream media eyes, she's probably never going to have the arrow pointing up further than it is right now. Yes, you could argue that confidence is a big thing. She now has the experience. Maybe she would do better a second time around again, which is why I think her campaign is saying, hey, that wasn't so bad after. It's like, you know, when you go on the roller coaster and you get off of it and you're like, that wasn't as bad as I thought. She's probably like, let's get back in line. Let's go again. But here's the -- if you're Trump, I think Trump would benefit if he says, let's do it again. Yes, I'd like to do it on Fox News. No, I don't want Brett Baer, Martha McCallum, even though I think those will be absolutely fine by my vantage point. But I would actually argue if you're Trump, you want open mics this time. And, you know what, let her have notes. You have notes as well because you're not going to have fact checkers on your side. So if you can have some of that stuff in front of you, it makes it easier for you to stay on task with what you want to say while looking down to be able to fact check and point her. And if he's prepped properly, like you said by Zioli and knock on the wood, Chris Christie back in the day, he can have the proper facts to say, well, no, no, that's a lie. And here's why I'm going to tell you, and here's the source. So, but I don't -- The Harris campaign put out after the debate that they wanted a second debate. Of course they do. We haven't, you know, Trump is talking about how ABC, they should be fired, it was rigged. So it's the Trump campaign that may not want a second debate as of this morning. Well, he said, do you think there's going to be a second debate, Don? I do. Okay. This is what Donald Trump said on Fox and Friends this morning. Mr. President, I know when we started the interview, you said that you felt that you won the debate last night, your best ever. I think before the debate happened last night, the Kamala Harris people said that they would actually like to do another debate in October. And I know that last night, Fox News offered sent letters to your campaign and her campaign offering three dates of debates moderated by Martha and Brett. One is October 9th in Arizona. Well, I wouldn't want to have Martha and Brett. I'd love to have somebody else other than Martha and Brett. I'd love to have Frankly Sean or Jesse or Laura, you know, somebody else. Let's give other people a shot. But I didn't think Martha and Brett were a good last night. Jesse was fantastic last night. What he said, Jesse really got it. Jesse said Trump won that debate. We won that debate by a lot. Now I wouldn't want Martha involved. Okay. Mr. President, I would take some others. So two things. One, I would be totally fine with Martha and Brett. But people are, and look, yes, I don't think Kamala would ever agree to anybody from 7 p.m. to 11 p.m. on Fox News moderating it. That's Shannon Bream. That would be solid. But, you know, let me defend Trump for a second. The guy has walked into the lion's den on everybody else's own terms. Everybody else's own conditions. I want it on CNN. I want it on ABC. Give me Tapper. Give me Muir. Why is it? Why is it wrong? Muir, what a bozo from ABC. Why is it so bad for Trump to ask for somebody that we know is a partisan hack? Why can't Trump get that for once? And yeah, I called Jesse Waters and all the partisan hacks. Yes, they are. And they would make it tough on Kamala. But they've made it tough for Trump every time. Here's Faulkner would be good. What about Harris? I'd be fine with any of them. But Trump shouldn't be ridiculed. I mean, my God, Kamala Harris knew it was rigged in her favor with somebody that gives 100%. How can you? Let me ask you this. Let's look at this objectively. How can you be the lowest rated vice president of all time? And the alleged, most watched, trusted source in news media on network television in evening hours of 6 and 7 p.m. Has a 100% positive spin score for the worst vice president of all time. But my friends is called the fix. So if Trump wants to live in that moment as well, he's entitled to say that. I have no problem with him saying it. He's not going to get it, but there's nothing wrong with him saying that. What's more important than the moderators, I don't care who moderates it, what's more important is to be allowed to have a crowd, to have an audience. And I would suggest take questions from the audience. Yes. Real people, yes, and not, and not pre-approved questions from the audience either, where some, some low level function airs up there, screening them in advance. I want real off, I want talk radio. I mean, there's nothing scripted about this show. When there's a person on line four, I have no, half the time we don't even have the right description on the call screen or anyway. I want, or I want, or authentic, organic conversations because I do think that's where Trump will thrive and excel. I want to play this before we hand the reins over to Don. So JD Vance was on with Caitlin Collins after the debate and she brought up the, the migrant eating pets situation. And I wanted to play this. This is cut 22, Phil Go. I just want to see if he can properly. I think there may be some women voters who would like for him, would have liked for him to answer that question. The other thing that he brought up, which I was kind of surprised by, I guess I would say, is he brought up this misleading false claim that you yourself have talked about in recent days about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, abducting people's pets and eating them, which officials there have said is not true. You yourself acknowledged it may be false on Twitter. You still told people to keep spreading it, but Trump just amplified it to tens of millions of people who were watching. Why push something that's not true? Well, first of all, city officials have not said it's not true. They said they don't have all the evidence. They said they have no evidence. We've heard from a number of constituents on the ground, Caitlin, who both first hand and second hand reports saying this stuff is happening. So they very clearly, meaning the people on the ground dealing with this think that it is happening. And I think that it's important for journalists to actually get on the ground and uncover this stuff for themselves when you have a lot of people saying, my pets are being abducted or geese at the city pond are being abducted and slaughtered right in front of us. This is crazy stuff and again, whether those exact rumors turn out to be mostly true, somewhat true, whatever the case may be, Caitlin, this town has been ravaged by 20,000 migrants coming in, health care costs are up, housing costs are up, communicable diseases like HIV and TB have skyrocketed in this small Ohio town. This is what Kamala Harris's border policies have done. You know, all of that can be true and valid and certainly the diseases and the numbers, I think, are all true. But if you're kind of hitching your wagon to this, well, I mean, for lack of a better phrase, like that moment in Dumb and Dumber, where they ripped the head of the bird off, it killed my bird, Petey, like if you think that's what's going to win you the election, it's such a distraction. Yeah, it's just I there's so many bigger fish to fry. I wouldn't I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket. As I said yesterday, it's about people, not pets. It was what escalated this whole thing. It started about a year ago and you you have this this growing number of 20,000 people descending on a small town. And many of them are welcome and hard working. Unfortunately, though, one year ago, there was a 36 year old Haitian immigrant who's now in jail and he he actually caused a fatal accident into a school bus. He went the wrong way, crashed into a school bus, injuring dozens of children, killing an 11 year old little boy named Aiden. That's what started this whole thing. Talk about Aiden. Talk about the humanitarian crisis. Don't talk about these these other stories that he's acknowledging may be true, but they're not verified. So why why talk about pets? Talk about people. All right. We have to get to today's music history. It is sponsored this morning by Budget Blinds that care. Today, September 11th and I am back. We celebrate the birthday of our last craft from the verve who's 53, Moby, who's 59, Tommy Shaw of Styx, who's 71, and Mickey Hart, the Grateful Dead, who's now 81. We also lost Peter Tosh to the whalers on this day in 87, single include double vision by 400 and 78, repentless by Slayer in 2015, and 550 by the who in 1979, Abzakud the wild, the innocent, the East Street shuffle by Springsteen in 73. We are KS by Marilyn Manson four years ago, and cherry pie by warrant, firehouses debut, and AIC's debut all released on this day in 1990. Also in 77, David Bowie joined Bing Crosby to record him the merry old Christmas special and 65, the Beatles help album hits number one in 87. Peter Gabriel was a big winner of the MTV Awards and an 82 Chicago was atop the singles chart. But lastly, on this day, 23 years ago, yes, on 9/11, 2001, Gerard Way was walking to work and actually witnessed the attacks in New York. Well the day's events inspired him to start a band, which became my chemical romance. Poor came company, I fell off with. Ready for fall budget blinds is your one stop shop for blind shade, shutters, custom drapery and motorization, visit budgetblinds.com for a free in-home consultation and the only no questions asked warranty in the biz. When you schedule your consultation, ask about their special radio offer. Don't show in about nine minutes and we find out what she has scheduled for the top of the hour. Yeah, so coming up at 10.30, I will tell you that we have a woman who we're going to talk to who is going to tell us more about her testimony yesterday before the House Judiciary Panel, just heart wrenching testimony from immigration advocates and especially talking about relatives of women and children slain, murdered by migrants. And so you'll hear from, it's an incredible story, you'll hear a story coming up at 10.30. At 10, I haven't shared where I was 23 years ago today. So we'll talk about what's happening locally with September 11th as we of course remember what happened 23 years ago today, but I'll have my inside story where I was in a local newsroom and the panic that ensued here locally, some insights on that as well. Just a jam pack show, Kathy Barnett is going to be a long, just a, we'll have somebody from the Trump campaign as well. So we'll talk all things Trump really got it all. Yeah. All right. Very good. Looking forward to you. Got a lot squeezed into two hours should be a good show. Don't show coming up from 10 to noon. All right. Everybody have a great rest of your Wednesday. We will continue the fallout from the debate, what the future looks like in these next 50 plus days tomorrow and Friday and we're back tomorrow morning at six o'clock. Good night, everybody, start your day with Kaylin company weekday morning, six till 10. I'm talk radio 12, 10, WPHT and the free Odyssey app. I'm Sally home with the podcast history this week. In each episode, we serve as your eyes and ears into history's biggest events and the lesser told stories. Ones you might not even know happened. Find history this week on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts.