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Summer Sessions Ep.188: Lifetime Achievement Awards (FREE EPISODE)
the other one. What's going on Patreon subscribers welcome to another edition of summer sessions. In fact, this one I'm throwing this. Uh, up on the free feed as well for the next day. It's Nick has got hit us. Got to hit us. Anything to drive. Nick is to this podcast. It will be this conversation that we have today. This is episode one 88. Uh, it's your boy Scott. Merck bang and path. Uh, you can follow me on social media platforms and form check Scott. Follow bang engineer bang on all social media platforms. You can follow path and that path you will. You can follow Merck at Merck C's on Twitter and that Merck says on Instagram man get in tune with the Cabrini house project everything that got going on. Design us getting to man. It is 30 September 12. Now this tells you just how much we were trying to record this because usually we don't miss our date. Uh, you know, so you see miss our day because we just wait until next week. But we hear we got a lot of stuff to talk about today. But for those of you who are listening from the free feed because I would be posting this on the free feed for Saturday morning. So just for y'all want to see that as well. Um, you can subscribe to the Patreon. I don't know what put it down. But then we can be stopped. Subscribe to the Patreon. That is patreon.com backslash barber's chair network. So you can watch this podcast and listen to this podcast as much as possible, man. Uh, what's going on, y'all? Feeling good. I can't wait for this conversation. I'm chilling, man. What y'all made though Gee cuz I feel like I'm on some uh what's going on man. How y'all feeling about this Super Bowl shit? That's a ball shit man. Let's get to it man. Let's just get right to it. I'm gonna get right to it man I'm well, I got a lot to sell this and might take me ten minutes. I'm let everybody else go We're gonna go work. We're gonna go. I'm gonna pass my man and I let me let me go first cuz my ass gonna be quick I want to see the debate between y'all two. I'm gonna say what I got to say and I'm gonna go on mute. I Have no dog in the fight. I Think that little Wayne. I think it would be dope for Lil Wayne to perform in New Orleans. I also understand why Kendrick is the performer. I have seen Lil Wayne perform a couple of times I have walked away each time disappointed My man basically just do some type of gremlin jig smoke Does the song and then in the middle of it say I love my fans and some some weird ass around said I love my fans I don't think that little Wayne between in a in a 10 to 15 non-stop set. I Think he has the songs to do it. I don't know if he has the energy to do it That's why I've always said since this was announced that Wayne if Wayne wants to be on that stage He could be on that stage just like multiple people are normally on a Super Bowl stage. I think On the weekend may have been the only person in the last couple years that did it solo by himself And I don't think he's gonna do that. My issue is when people say all of the other niggas from New Orleans can can can perform We're not ever gonna get a Turk. I need a hot girl voice verse at the Super Bowl my niggas We're not gonna get back that ass up with a whole bunch of women twerking Let me finish Brad. Well, let me finish. Let me finish cuz I'm giving y'all the joint I don't think we after last year and with the FCC record. Well, not last year 2022 I don't think we're going to get a whole bunch of women around Twerking to back that ass up in front of white America Nobody wants to see a hot boys reunion at the Super Bowl Nobody wants to see master P at the motherfucker Super Bowl cuz all y'all niggas that went to the no limit concert Reunion concert all y'all niggas said that shit was trash. So a lot of fuck what y'all want master P Coming on any stage doing anything with that being said I'm cool with it still think Lil Wayne is gonna be a part of it because Kendrick is a Lil Wayne stand this has nothing to do with Drake, but I'm excited to hear this conversation. I'm going on mute watching y'all niggas. I Think at first of all, I have no problem. I can't do the Super Bowl. Obviously Kendrick is a great performer he's Top five hottest artists out right now, which I think matters like I don't think of little Wayne I don't think little Wayne can sell out a stadium right now on its own. I Do not think that I think Wayne can do maybe 5,000 night I don't think Wayne can sell a stadium right now on his own Which I think that does matter because if look at the artist that they put on a thing is use your artists who could Hold their own weight, right? And there's no way little way I don't there's no way if it wasn't in the world as we little Wayne wouldn't even be a thought process for the Super Bowl That being said having said that um, I Mean it would have been dope to see like I think Wayne could have put together good show Um, I also I've seen Wayne perform when he wasn't in for a dope theme mode So I've seen Wayne perform when in like 2010 think it was the I am I'm just saying I think when it was when it was the I am used to I think that if you gave him the Super Bowl He would take his seriously. He wouldn't just be looking like he was at WrestleMania and fucking jigging and smoking on stage I think he could he could take it seriously. Also, I do think you could do juvenile back to that So I think that back to that stuff is so in the lexicon of America right now that like it doesn't even matter Like everybody knows I think you could do you could bring juvenile out. You could maybe do stunt like my daddy or something like that You could maybe do like my daddy at the Super Bowl Maybe you could like go to it. I mean as your question. I I just want to ask your question Do you think you can do back that ass up without twerking at the Super? No, but you could like No, but you can do it in a tasteful way and also twerking I think it's so in like the lexicon You don't have to literally have women up there for real like going crazy Making a style you was twerking at the goddamn DMC You could you could you could do it in a in a tasteful way where it's not insane And also you probably wouldn't do the whole song you would probably bring him out He'd go to the hook and you know doing in tasteful way. You could have brought out Nikki. You could have brought out Drake You know that was like I think taste you not bringing out no limit path I just want to throw this cunt in context little Wayne said in the interview with Taylor Rooks That if he got the Super Bowl ain't nobody come on on that bitch with him. So I ain't no Drake and ain't no Nick Listen he got the records again. I do think it would have been cool I think you were tickets here to think it would have been a good show having said that I do not have a problem with Kenner doing I like I get it. He puts on great shows. He'll do some Kendrick shit. He'll bring some fucking I don't even know people on stage dressed up in Ninja Massage Mascas and doing whatever Kennedy will do So it'll be a good show But it would have been dope in New Orleans to see Wayne do it And I think people need to stop lying to themselves and rewriting the history of little Wayne Act like he don't have the songs to be able to do it which is goddamn disgraceful, but I'll leave it there Man, I've had a lot of thoughts about this one number one Congratulations to Kendrick. I think it's It's I hate that, you know, this is turned into anything outside of a Even for him like everybody involved is turned this to Like something that has this a heavy dose of like this and disregard for what it should be which is A celebration of an artist who then made his way through the trenches and you know to a point number one The Super Bowl is not the the Louvre or like it's not some like like high Sacred ground that needs to be respected. It's if we talking about the NFL We're talking about one of the most janky disrespectful companies in the fucking globe You know I'm saying so like this idea that those grounds need to be protected and from hip-hop and Everything that hip-hop represents like I think that's ridiculous Kendrick performing I do think that's a good idea. I hate that this turn into like a Wayne bash infest Wayne ain't did shit, but be from New Orleans and want you like to perform like any other rapper and drop I mean even this only only niggas only niggas would take its legends and and that the victory of somebody else Hanged the next nigga like why a nigga dick ain't did other but help niggas whenever he could I've been on this 2007 before can't What I'm saying is like this isn't a moment to turn around and shit on Wayne with like the fact that and niggas do it with such pride and like Sadicness to like man. This is our opportunity to finally put a fork in a little way. Like what the fuck is that about? That's awkward. Let me also add that With hope taking a job And when you know we take it back four or five years ago I'm forgot what was protesting for maybe we were screaming You know more have time performers Maybe it was that and maybe that's what we really wanted because that's all we got out of it now with this and taking on a job Yes, the Super Bowl the second place in New Orleans several times. I don't know. I've been checked out on the NFL which all y'all know but there is a Consensus thought that with Jay Z taking a job and they're being a more centralized focus We assumed rather and maybe we are wrong that hip-hop and respect to it into a degree You know what would be acknowledged and I would say that New Orleans and its contributions to hip-hop are Arguably like top five in America We think about hip-hop and the impact that those artists from that city have made now Previous to Jay Z taking a job and whatever second place in New Orleans, of course Niggas never thought about I never thought about like half time Anyway, we just took whatever they gave us without even thinking about it And so and since he's taken on a job there has been more thought around Who does it and you know why they do it and I think that? now is an opportune time for New Orleans and its impact to be acknowledged in a way um, I think that there's only a handful of cities that you know where that could be consideration I see the joke flying around about you know had the same energy for Petey Pablo like When it's in North Carolina, whatever like let's just be honest, you know and and like I get like niggas go ahead jokes, you know what I'm saying? but I think that New Orleans and and what it's done is It should be celebrated in the same vein as a you know, I even as a Chicago nigger I'm I would you know if Chicago had a fucking top 100 hip-hop niggas I think I'll be on it. I don't I don't know if Chicago itself is in a position to argue for a Chicago artist Like that could potentially like woven together something. I would celebrate our sale I think that New Orleans is ahead of the doc on us. So I decided with you. I think we could but the man is the same Right. Well, I mean man is in prison. Yeah Kanye can do it, but like one man is in our county can't even get actual food at the jail he's in right now So I think it's uh, you know for what is worth, you know what I'm saying? I I hope that You know the discourse like funnels itself into um Less about what it ain't you know what I'm saying? Um, yeah, you know Like wayne being like pushed around in this moment and and for what let me be clear Like I ain't the biggest wayne found myself, but uh like you know He's top top fucking ten on arguably any hip-hop fans list. So like I think that That that is, you know, he needs top ten on my list, but I put him now to respect you know, man So and I I personally think it's more about the city Um, you know Kendrick he doing this thing it did feel a little awkward seeing him standing in front of an american flag And I guess we got to own Kendrick as the great american, you know, that that was that was against it was the truth I get you know, but it's still what it is though history that 20 years from now We will look at a great american rapper and you know, that's that's and that ain't no, you know, no sliding that way but I um I just don't want to see this shit turning to like, you know Trying to put a fork in niggas who have done nothing but gave the game, you know I mean the entire life in the case of a wein or Even what new world is in this sound, you know what I mean? I think that um This was an opportunity that that that Should not be um Like discounted and and I would I would have uh liked to have seen, you know, then boys get their chance Real quick scott It's one thing that I want to I just for context to I think just as much as people are Shitting on wane people are shitting on Kendrick I've seen so many people say that they don't want to hit negro spirituals His stuff. So I just want to throw that out there back to you scott Okay, first of all, I respect our studio brothers opinion Uh, and I don't really disagree with much of what you guys are saying to them All right, I will say this one like I said congratulations to kendrick big thing Uh getting the suitable first rapper to fully uh perform with the suitable headline of super bowl Like dr. Dre's not a rapper and even any it was that it was promoted as dr. Dre and snoop and marriage obliged m&m Kendrick right there. We're all at the fucking press conference. So it's multiple things I'm gonna get the positive stuff out first first of all little wane isn't hip-hop legend He's not on any of my top 10 list. I think when it comes to mixed tapes Yes, the best mixed tape run I've ever seen I think his actual music ain't on shit That's just my personal opinion But I know that it means a lot to a lot of people and I'm not finna sit up here and deny the numbers the impact That little wane has it's not a situation where white people don't know who little wane is white people know who little wane is Little wane can perform everywhere little wane has been on anything like everywhere Like even if you look at nfl cow Shannon head coach of the niners He's a little wane stan. He named his son carter at the little wane So white people know who little wane is I don't think that little wane has the catalog for 15 minutes Of a set at the super bowl in line. Let me go. Let me go. Let me finish. Let me finish I don't think you know, it's not a lot. I don't think he has 15 minutes 13 to 15 minutes of an actual calo without bringing other niggas out He said he told taylor ricks. He would need to bring other he's not bringing nobody else So if you can't do the songs for everybody else out I don't think you can do that on top of the point that the niggas not reliable We've heard from many people that he don't even know how to show up for the stuff for the grammys and things like that People saying oh, I think he can be sober the nfl just don't plan stuff out the blue They've been picking who they're gonna pick for the super bowl full months So i'm pretty sure they went back talk to reliable people who have worked for Oh, if he was even considered I don't even know if he's considered number one. So I I can't even say I don't think this has anything to do with little wane. I don't I don't think he has nothing to do with them Is that the subo is not a place? Uh, where just cousin a home city the home artist has performed it. They happen one time with dr. Dre That happened had living one time ever And I think people also even be appreciative because it could have been tailored swift I actually thought last year was going to be the last hip-hop act we got It's definitely going to be the last hip-hop act we got now because I think this is jay's deals up after this subo Now we can sit up here And talk about what jay's deal means Whatever if you were the people who actually thought that this means that they were going to do social justice to begin with That's your fault. The nfl was just trying to clear the waters Post Kaepernick and jay's he wants to eventually be a nfl team owner So of course you're going to get in bed with the nfl to clear the way It's big business. This has all the now say all to do But I have to do a lot of people just don't like kid now There's some people that's kindred is to me right now. You got some people like me who love kindred He's on top of the game. He is the hottest rapper right now. Like you said pat He's like one top five hottest artist right now. So from that perspective, it's a good business move I don't think it's got nothing to do a little way. I just really feel like people are tired of kids We I've never heard somebody get tired of a number one record is quick as people have said on the internet Now, I also think this is just internet rage. I don't think people outside of the internet really care about this This is five months from now. And honestly, I think we're gonna give them that like us hook You're not letting that nigga do the song. There's no way you're gonna hear a minor Uh, you know Echoing throughout Mercedes been super dumb. It's just not gonna happen And also by that point, I think Kennedy's gonna have new music that's gonna be out for either If the album comes out before the subo or maybe the day after kind like how ushristane did Also, look at this is another angle people bring up jz when it comes to this I don't think this is the type of thing where jz has some beef with little way I don't know who has beef with a nigga that had that gave him 14 million dollars of clear taxes Like if that's the nigga you beefing with then I guess so I don't think there's nothing to do with it Now I might have something to do with Drake. I don't know. I don't know if these people relationships are You know outside of the actual music But I think just people are upset that Kendrick is having this year I believe if Drake got the subo and by the way, I don't buy that he turned it down Look up reasons do I think the Drake can do the subo 1 million percent Drake Drake can do three super bowls. He's got that many hits So he can do the subo. I don't buy he turned it down because we hear about every artist That turns down a subo that is usually front page news when an artist turns down subo So drake turned it down we heard it heard it and expects if he turned it down multiple times That's like when to me it sounds like when you try to get a girl seeing she's seeing getting no play You know play you like I want you no way. That's what kind of feels like with drake with me in this I think this should be applauded as long as to give Kendrick the year he's having now People also try to use it. It's like all he's only up there because of drake Does the beef have some do it 100% 100% I'm not gonna sit up and lie and act like it don't have something to do with the beef The beef was huge everywhere. This is something they talked about on ESPN when he got picked to be The uh the performer ESPN put up his last four tweaks on their social media People also have to stop back in like Kendrick is just some dude who gave you to south by south west last year He is a big artist. He is the second biggest rap artist of the last 15 So maybe third because Kanye was very very big towards the beginning of the 2010s too So at the worst third He he deserves a shot like this. So that's to me While I look at it people are being uh, not really real. That's nothing to do when they're using wane as a platform to get their drake I mean to get to get their wane hat off wane. Uh, no matter. I don't care what wane said. Oh, I would love to do it That's cool. I would love them pregnant riana. That ain't got nothing to do with what's actually going to happen And that to me what it's about when you look at these different things and you also kind of look at the angle where Let's just live in the fantasy land that jay's lead didn't snub little wane or drake. Let's just live in that fantasy world I also find it funny the same people that we sat up here a couple weeks ago Said it was a boss move when jay when when great block tv from form performing in canada But if somebody blocks him from something it's not a boss move jay as a sucker Kamen mace love kamen mace makes one of my favorite rappers when i was a kid y'all cameras in my top five I love camera. Y'all going up there y'all got this 20 million dollar platform and y'all going up there spreading nonsense Y'all already picked the side too. We know dame is y'all boy and we also know y'all love drake That's cool. We ain't got a full pit and and and safe and spit proper kanda about what's going on with this suitable And I think if you look at the song that dropped yesterday By the way, I hate how we digest music because you think that's a dis ons need your ears checked Is that subliminal? Yeah, but that was a subliminal and drakes. Uh, no face. That's never the joint These niggas gonna be said that subliminal is each other for years. Who cares? It's not a dis song I think that was something he was getting off his chest and also getting this album rollout So I believe both sides. Yeah, there's some people who are being insincere by getting away and hate I did it because I love pissing off wavens It was I because people care about him so much and I did so much Also, I believe that you also know I believe I don't believe you genuinely believe he can't do 15 minutes I legitimately don't believe he can do 15 minutes. Okay. Okay. No, no, no, no. No, I said it Because I don't think he has any uh, super bowl type records I'm milli Amelia. I'm milli can he what is a super bowl record like you talk about the super bowl like it's a wedding or something I know work. You don't look at it like that, but the general public looking to settle on the however Fuck out a milli Okay lollipop. No, you can't do lollipop. That's the deal. What are we doing? Hey, tell them why you can't do lollipop in super. You can't do lollipop in the super bro. Yes, you can You can't do that song. That's super I get a fucking edited version of the damn song just do do do do do the edited version What's that? I feel you pep. I feel you, but they Crip walking those days That's different It's diff path you a path you know, that's different path. You know, that's different No, I don't know. It's different. You you work in music. You know, that's different But snoop is the most famous snoop is the is the most famous rapper in the world. He's going to be away with certain things Promoting being a crib again and it's serena And serena where you did the crip walk at the goddamn wimbledon. Yeah, we know that but we know there's certain things We know there's certain things that certain people can't get away with nigger. Come on Yeah, but also also the purple is also like when white people didn't know what's keep mean for a life. Let's take a life Yeah, the average white person don't know that's the game White people Lollipop Love me. Like lollipop. Okay path path pass. All right. Here's what I wasn't gonna say nothing. But here's where we got to stop He's not going to do that. He does not do well at that He barely even remembers his lyrics. So he's going to remember not the cuss I think that if you gave the man the super bowl He said I mean He said that I did not say that. I'm not going that out there. He said that Let me let me ask you. Let me finish. Let me ask this question. He said that he says he has the memory loss He said he can't do these things. So all I'm asking you. I'm not going to debate you or what it is Are you trusting that you tell wane five months from there? You're gonna do the super bowl and he's gonna remember that this is the shit that has to be done Yes, that's all I'm asked. I've seen way not be I've seen way before when he wasn't full dope theme mode Okay, not granted again. If you don't want to put him up to the question, but You just said you think he can do that, right? Okay, put yourself and not even Roger can do but the person who books to have time show Are you banking your job on the fact that you think he's gonna be so that's not my argument I understand why he's not up there one. He looks like a dope thing. You're not gonna send a fuck No, they don't look like him gee he like fucking dope thing like I understand why he's not up there That's not my beef My beef is you saying he ain't got the songs to do shit. That's what we lying That is my beef. You said his catalog Again Give me give me non feature wane songs that can clear up 13 minutes and a half time show So when a nigga says 15 minutes Humble DNA like that. He's gonna do the like that verse. He's going to do not like us. Huh. Oh, he's going to do That's a feature like that feature. That's a feature. No, I'm talking about some I'm talking about way because Wayne ain't got nothing but features Uh, he can do loyalty. He can do feature I don't care about the feature. I'm tomorrow Wayne nigga. Ginger can do that shit Uh the black half the song he can do the uh All the stars. He can't do no fucking all the stars Yes, he can Yes, he can it was on a Disney soundtrack. Yes. He can't do the soundtrack Miss officer. Yeah way can do this officer Way can't do got money No, I don't know if he can do got money Not I don't think I don't think people know got money like that people don't know got money g I don't think you know what I'm like bro. I don't think you got money like that. I don't think you got money like that Who right above it? Okay, he can do right above it It's a drake hook Nigga, your name Rihanna hook and I got a future song Okay, yeah, but the Kendrick's the main artist on it Drake also has a verse on it Drake also has a verse on it when you listen to the ballers of the t that's the ball of theme song when Drake first off They cut it off. I know It's the first one. They cut it off. It's the first verse of the song my point exactly Look, I think look and this is not me. I this is me. Y'all never gonna change my opinion I think that nigga is most over 80 hours in the last 25 years I think that he is big to hip-hop. I understand I think when it comes to most influential rappers He's top four most influential rapper ever But I just don't think he got the catalog like that outside of the actual mixtape stuff That's just me. And it's it's a moot point because it don't matter the nigga could he perform with the essence fest He was saying my my match. You know you doing all that at the essence fest So if you can't even perform correctly at untie festival, make me gonna perform with the symbol I know it's other people on song but he can't do forever. I'm bureau. A lot of people think that's an Eminem song I that's not don't that average person thinks that's the Eminem song gm We don't got the very last verse the average person. Oh the fuck they go. That's an Eminem song They do not think that's an Eminem song. That's the average That's an Eminem. Yes. If you need any day if anything Hold on. Hold on. It's a Drake song though, right? I haven't heard that song It's a Drake song is a Drake record. It's a well. No. No. No action. No, it's Drake's featuring them niggas No the original song the original mixtape record before all the niggas got on it. It's just Drake and Wayne I'm tomorrow the one that came out on that LeBron soundtrack It's that is Drake featuring no niggas So fucking what you just named goddamn like that. Which is future feature. Okay. He didn't have to do like that Take like that off. He still got other songs. He can do my name. He can do Um, uh, what if it's don't kill my vibe. He can do he can't do kid. Don't kill my vibe No, he can't it's not a big enough record. It's not a big enough record. It's not a big enough record Yes, he does. He can do any dreams of the Super Bowl. He can't do no fucking money. Oh, no No, he can't throw. Yes. No, he can't. No, he can't. Yes. He can't do nothing. No, that goddamn album besides He will be doing a lot of stuff on that album No, he's gonna do damn and he gonna do the not like us shit and he would do some feature shit No, he's not. Do y'all believe? Is the biggest music genre on the planet? Yes. Yeah. Um, yes and no I just wanted to know like I'll explain my yes or no. I explain my yes. No, because I think it's I think we talk a good game I do. I think we talk a good game. But merc to your point. Here's why I agree with you merc Kendrick Lamar gets named to the Super Bowl and niggas having the debate about Kendrick Lamar Performing at the Super Bowl They don't do this at other genres like that Right, let's let's let let me say it like No, that's not just if they don't map, but it don't matter That's the that's actually the point of it Instead of just celebrating the nigga for being on the Super Bowl Niggas want to debate about why somebody else Should be there. I even put it like this if the Super Bowl Which is my prediction is Santa Clara next year the suit and san francisco my prediction that soup bowl is gonna be an order ball Jelly roll, sibuzzi. It may be mille size. It's gonna be four of those people One of those people gonna be named and that would be a fire Super Bowl Am I playing that? I listened to some of those should it be a fire Super Bowl But you think country music is gonna sit up there have a full-ass argument About how why jelly roll is up there why morgan walling is up there niggas that have an argument because niggas will be like Why the hell is morgan walling up there after he said the end word Little dirk will probably be on there or money bag y'all because both of them have hit songs With morgan walling they're probably making appearance on that shit But but they're not gonna be like oh man. Uh-huh and this is this is This is actually more geared towards the little Wayne fans and the Nicki Minaj folks Nicki Minaj who just crashed out and all that shit Why kid like the reason why to me is the caveat of if we are that is because anytime somebody in hip-hop gets something Hip-hop is the one that's complaining And that to me is the main reason why yeah Financially money wise. Yeah, you can get that But we still immature when it comes to the things when it comes to this culture can't you glama? I got it. Okay. Cool. Let's celebrate it We could have it could have been a situation and it still could be a situation where little Wayne performs with this nigga But no, it's got to be a whole full-ass debate about why Kendrick Lamar got to be on here And why Jay-Z didn't do this and why Jay-Z didn't do that. So that's my caveat. Yeah from a financial standpoint Yeah, we the biggest be the biggest genre of all time But for everything else, this is immature as fuck celebrate the nigga who got that shit Show love uplift that motherfucker and then when February knife come five months from now You don't know who gonna be that that motherfucker could surprise you and jenna jaxon Be on there to get her get back for the whole damn Justin Timberlake from the fiasco they could go up there do poetic justice And he give her her time that she didn't get and we could be like yo, thank god, man He gave jenna jaxon the flowers because they killed her and cbs for all of that shit But now we sitting here having not us but just saying people are on social media having a full-on argument Shit, no Kendrick Lamar and shit. No little way and by proxy shitting on Drake That's why to me financially. Yeah writing share But we still got a ways to go when it comes to this shit Because I don't see no of the genres killing the person that actually get this big ass opportunity You're right, but it also goes further into black people. That's not just I think it goes into what hip-hop comes from hip-hop comes from, you know The streets and I think just hip-hop is more competitive than those genres in general Like I don't think I could be wrong But I don't think people in like for instance, and that's the way we've marketed hip-hop I don't think like remember the MTV top 10 rapper thing when it was a thing Like nobody does it like the MTV top 10 country artists and ranked them Like that's not a thing as like hip-hop is a more competitive genre than other genres I think Because of where it comes from and because of what it comes from Hey, man, I agree with you and that's still and that's making even my point We are designed in the culture that we created we are designed to compete with each other in a way that we got to denigrate the other nigga that got it We're designed to do that and not And in some cases we can do the debate. I'm with you in some cases But in a case like this Celebrate the nigga. Get some of my fucking some goddamn ideas. Let's let's do some. Let's do this now if February night come It's eight o'clock The voice of God come on and this is the Super Bowl halftime show sponsored by Apple music Starting Kendrick Lamar after the Chiefs up 14 that time Yeah, and then you sit through 15 minutes and you don't see southern university University john backtease Lil Wayne Maybe harry conic jr. For some white people and shit Like you don't see a motherfucker doing the second line dance and shit not like us in all that shit If you see if there happens and you don't see that then get on so But bang, I think what you're saying is back to my main original point. Well, I don't think that's something to do a little way I just think some people just don't win. This is not all But some people just don't want to give Kendrick for the year. Yeah, that's what I think is the core of this Nobody was talking about little Wayne that morning when that when that when that when the announcement got made This wasn't something for weeks people like man Where's the what's super announce a hope Wayne gets it? It came out of nowhere I don't think people were thinking about the super bowl being in New Orleans But then when they realized it was in New Orleans. I think people just would have assumed That's my point And the way people are framing it like it's a lifetime achievement. If we want to do lifetime achievement work cool That's other people other rappers who should be on it before him Why not the LL out there? If we do a lifetime achievement of works. He got out mount right now He really hates way He really really Can do that like come on. Hey, I'm saying to be treating this as a lifetime achievement award It's not like Wayne got an album out right now or anything That's why you got nothing to do a little way It's the fact we even see you say it put in your cool J up there, bro I Scott. It's got to get you back. No, I'll just send it. I got your back. I'm just saying I got your back I agree with you if we do a lifetime achievement awards Let's not do like how y'all try to do me with George Garvin nigga LL Gujane is regarded as one of the greatest niggas of all time in this shit and ambassador culture and his nigga been on tv for damn their 20 years Oh, oh, so white people know this nigga you go Oh slot. I I I agree you could bring the nigga out in a celebration of 50 years of hip-hop If we do a lifetime know what Scott saying is if we're doing lifetime achievement awards, then yes Yeah, I don't think I don't think that we do a lifetime achievement awards You know I feel like and this is not like Wayne has nothing out right now Like he has something out and you're like, okay, if you want to take the Wayne got this Huh? He ain't gonna get him ain't ain't gonna got them album out Not like So that's my point. It's still top 10 on billboard. He's had something out Uh way has way has nothing out that is hitting the masses is what I'm saying I'm not talking about whatever verse he did on some random niggas song He doesn't have an actual song. See even last year with usher Usher had been performing vegas the last two years and on top of on top Yeah, but he had an album coming out is my point. He has something Well, actually actually Scott. Let me clean it up. The nigga had an album coming out He found out they worked out the super ball The album that the album got pushed back We didn't even get the album that I heard when I first heard that nigga album Which I'm still pissed off that because the album is Because you told me it was gonna be cold. I heard yes. What is this? We still me and mark me and my home. He's still mad about that shit I'm I'm gonna close it with this because we got other stuff. I want I want to get into I'm gonna close it like this Is that's why I said it was something with Wayne has something out Now it's hitting the masses and he's getting ready to put out an album and he would say okay Wayne been in the game For almost 30 years at this point and send the world as he got a project coming out Let's give it to him about it. I just want to say if they announced no way as a foreword I wasn't gonna complain about it It makes sense to have him in the super bowl. Just for me. I just don't think well I don't understand what we're tearing Kendrick down And yeah, there are people tearing Wayne down. I'm one of them But I do that because I get chills and giggles out of it And also I just don't think that niggas that good, but that's just my personal opinion I understand what his impact is. So the game. I don't like Nas I don't like Nas. Oh, I'm not finna sit up here and say not a legend I understand what he's done to you. I understand what ill-matic is done in niggas You can not like somebody even they credit. I've been hating on LeBron for 21 years I still think you the second best player ever think of basketball. You can give credit instead. Oh, uh, babe What it might say? Overrated. You don't mean what? Yeah, we got a shirt for that friend overrated don't mean what? I love my beautiful darksuits and fans I think it's a good album best album in the last 30 years like people saying no But I think it's a really really good album. I think it's a classic but that's all I got to say on that particular subject It don't really matter because February 9th One the super halftime show no matter who it is. It's like number two on what I care about that day It's an actual game to the point where I don't even like going to super own parties where most niggas are just there for the other stuff I want to watch the actual game. That's just me But uh, I would kind of want to piggyback all of the question that murk asked until like a bigger topic Well, you said it's hip-hop the biggest genre. I want to know what's the state of The industry more specifically hip-hop when none of these niggas is doing Jonas anymore. Like I felt like the standard now then there's like 40 50,000 Like I think there's only maybe four rappers who can come out here and do at least a hundred k and four might be a stretch It might only be okay. No, it's full. I think it's Drake Kendrick future and Cole. I think those are all he wants And if you try to say doing a hundred k bro, you're fucking you have lost your fucking mind What is last album do and I'm not thinking mixtape did By the way, I'm not buying the days for rodeo And they got always that nigga that nigga lately they've been doing two to three What was the last actual album first real quick before we even go into the numbers of it all y'all like I think we do ourselves a huge disservice similar to the last topic to make uh, uh, uh Conversations centered around hip-hop and his impact did too. It did 500 first week By the way, find it out 500 first week. It didn't have like the biggest drop in hip-hop in music history but like a 89 drop of some shit, but the the point is To make this shit about like the numbers Is it's to the disadvantage of the impact? You know what I'm saying like because the the impact can't be measured by the numbers And I know people say that but I think people roll past that way too quickly You know what I'm saying? Because like this shit is like albums are like sees that get planted and songs are like sees that get And it takes time for these things to like have an impact on life and in culture And like the way people move and their decision making so much of that shit is rooted off of hip-hop songs Like a lot of people's days are designed by hip-hop And To to narrow that down to say hey that did x first week. It's like that's that's a huge district There's almost like saying a nigga code or week by the amount of times he dribble us some shit Like what the fuck that has to do with the price of tea in china? Like it really don't matter so like And that this it almost feels like those conversations were like paul george to gold and all that shit was like wait a minute What are we talking about like the things that really matter And what the role that hip-hop plays in music and in people's lives and individuals lives and all of our lives like it's way too intimate to categorize that by like a stream, you know what i'm saying? So like I think we do ourselves a huge disadvantage by saying what something is and what something isn't by the by the amount of streams it gets because Oh, you only got to hear a song once for it to change your life So to say that I listened to it 30 more times doesn't necessarily prove that it had less of more impact on my life And on any person's life, you know what i mean? I also think that there's maybe only a few artists in general who can do a hundred thousand It's not even just rap like for instance, right? I'm looking at burner boys last shit burner boys last shit did 30,000 first week actually I think it was 20,000 first week I think there's like very few artists in general with how you count streams and how music is streaming like I don't think music streaming is going up. I think it's kind of plateau to a certain Um, you know measures. So I don't think there's many very many artists in general who can do a hundred thousand two hundred Thousand three hundred thousand first week. I just think that Again back we're hip-hop because it's so competitive I think that we look at rap album first week sales like it's everything And I don't know if you do that the same way even fucking do a loop I don't know what do a loopa did first week like um the the last couple albums or the one where she had levitating and fucking physical Own it, but that shit is fire and I think it lasted through time. So like I just think that Um, there's not many artists in general that could do a hundred thousand first week and I think we need to stop quantifying Like merc said the impact something had based off of the first week like that's insane Based off of the first week numbers even like thinking right the Travis Scott song feeling is it even on the charts? But you're not gonna tell me this shit don't have a huge impact like a huge impact I've been to the concert and see people just literally screaming for fiend in the whole time. They can't even speak English They just stand there's a commercial Facts so like I even like the Kanye's own praise god. They had a gay ray commercial. Did it even chart? I don't think it even charted So like I don't think we need to quantify things like that Basically just strictly off that but again, I think there's very few artists fuck a rap Very few artists in general these days with the way music is streaming that can do a hundred thousand two hundred thousand three hundred thousand four A thousand streams in a week. Well albums out in a week I agree with that, but I also think that speaks to whether industries that if no artists Outside of a couple can do more than a hundred thousand you will write Travis the input 500,000 even though he even he dropped it still dropped 147. I apologize. I put Travis in that five uh, but I still think that's an issue with music today if you're an artist I personally feel like it's a terrible time to be artists and monetary wise because you have to do So many other things outside of music to get attention on your music And I think that's personally a problem if I was just an artist now if I'm an artist who plans on being a brand I think that can help you and it doesn't really matter But if I'm just an artist and all I want to do is make music that will piss me off So I feel like that's a problem with the music industry and then we keep seeing all these people When these record labels getting laid off and laid off and laid off. That's not even really staffs anymore So maybe I need to reframe my question on where does the industry go from here? If we got somebody like big Sean who was a relatively big hip-hop artist Is only going out there doing 30,000 in his first week To be fair big Sean album cam. I know where he didn't have a single and usy big Sean albums are accompanied with pretty big singles Okay, and it didn't have one to be fair. I just want to say that to be fair. Okay. I don't know I was like Sean is like a perfect example of like, you know somebody Forging ahead together drives Colorado's pioneering spirit at chevron We donate funding and volunteer thousands of hours in support of the communities we call home We also employ our neighbors to deliver the energy needed as the state's largest oil and natural gas producer All to help improve lives in our shared backyard That's energy in progress visit colorado.chefron.com Going from being like you got you got rappers and then you got like celebrity rappers And I think that he is now, you know become a rapper And he's no more he's no longer a celebrity rapper And I think that the metrics in which you judge a celebrity boss should be different than a metrics you judge anybody else by you know what I mean? So like He he I think he's won a good job of like adjusting to being a rapper I seen him out at summer smash him and his team That's shaking hands kissing babies He's staying like diligent on it And he may never do the numbers that he once did as a celebrity because you know what he ain't a fuck a celebrity no more And he's he's he's finding himself Gaining a footing of what the next 15 years of his rap career may be like And some people they get to live their entire careers as a celebrity artist Some of them we come up as rappers have become celebrities and we get stuck there We stay there some people get a glimpse at our celebrity and then they adjust to be in a rapper after being a celebrity Which is tougher for most people and I think that he's doing a great job of adjusting to no longer being a celebrity And like other cases may be say if we looked at this Eight ten years ago in walleye walleye was a celebrity for a brief moment or like say Like jco does a great job of carrying himself as a rapper, although he's a celebrity You know the same goes for kendrick. I think that he you know, that's why he celebrated as such He he kind of like hides underground for his entire career But like you have a lot of artists that have a hard time The baby that's another example somebody who is a rapper became a celebrity rapper And then like now trying to find a footing of being a rapper again and it's like That that that sweet nectar of celebrity, you know what i'm saying may never be there again And how do I normalize what my my audience is going to look like? Me pan attention and personally me not having, you know what i'm saying the assistance of the platforms Because it's all about the stages and we talking about Like stages that got the own priority youtube has his own priority of shit to get to so this spotify So does apple, you know title etc etc those all are are looking think of them shits as venues that got that got You know priorities that they That that you are not on the list of You know what i'm saying and those priorities can range from you know, first of all rap itself is way down a list You know what i'm saying? There's other things that it movies fucking actors, you know drama tv shows We compete you know all on the same stage. So like i think it's it's Understanding us as fans and is like enthusiasts of the art form I think the the onus is really on the audience learning how to support art in a more Organic way. So that's why when we say is rap The biggest john when the world that's also why i say hold up not so fast Because our artists have a shelf life You get a country music artists who can make music for years. You can see these people age You see armbi artists back in the day Um and even a little bit now because when we think about when we think about some of the artists that we love right now They've been around You say what I have a question once you've done bang good. You you see them you grow with them And with rap we grow with these rappers and we make them big but then Once they get a bit older we the the crowd now leaves them. They still have like their demo But the crowd now leaves them. So that's why also when I look at it from the grand scheme of things. It's like Not so fast because it's only a hand full of those people That could keep that going like Nicki Minaj this did a tour and sold out them joints Right, but are we but are people really flocking to to grab a Nicki Minaj album Not necessary or or stream it Not not in the way that they should compare it to her selling out those tools Like sometimes sometimes some of those things that happen outside of the booth Don't match what actually happens inside of the booth where when you look at when that's why parents like yeah, you're right. It's like And this is a great example Megan is enough. Right. Megan is a case study man Megan is an example of that. The fact she can go on tour and do a whole Whatever the fuck is insane and and and that's why the goal post has changed a little bit because Back in the in the late 90s early 2000s. No, that shit was gonna match So now you have a lot of people that used to the old way that's looking at this new way and then coming down on a lot of artists Because they're doing this but this ain't happening when they like look They might not be streaming my shit like that heavy, but they just sold out this venue And when you think about it, that's kind of like short-term thinking the long-term thinking is is the art And the art being able to move on and on and on and on and on. So that's another reason why i get it, but i don't know Also think that to the agent part i think that that's not somebody posed this question I think we need a adult contemporary genre of hip-hop as like it needs to be labeled like Yeah, i'm missing that shit. We need some shit labeled as adult contemporary genre. I probably wouldn't I probably wouldn't call it adult contemporary Shit, just just but it needs to be that because little baby shouldn't be on the same chart as elo kujao No, like that's not the same like it's like ye should be on the same chart as elo kujat Like I know both of them are hip-hop music, but the two are a little bit different And I think that defining it differently. I think would help You know I agree with you Because Rest of peace tony bennett But tony bennett as tony if tony bennett was alive right now Tony bennett to drop an album and then to be on a whole another different thing. What you guys got? Pab, do you know who tony bennett is? Yeah, the nigga who was singing. Oh, yeah, shit The fact that you know that's tony. Uh, that's not tony bennett, nigga Oh, oh, oh, damn. Oh, yeah, I don't even it I mean What do you tony bennett? Nick much, you know who tony bennett white-ass is when you see it. He looked like the boxer and now it's a nigga, right? He do it like that You've heard the song New York state of my own path. Yeah, you fly me to the moon nigger. You heard that You feel the hotel in new york you heard that Oh That nigga been singing all his goddamn life that nigga was 90 years old doing the album with lady gaga Paffy has a picture of our album of uh, sonatra Hey, no, I definitely gay that nigga, uh, tony bennett I gave sonatra Flowers for tony bennett's joint. I thought new york state of mine was a very hard of it. Yeah He got a Chicago song too Yeah, I heard that shit before he really just going around claiming nigger sets, you know, so Hey, and and Price anasha price an awesome look down from niggas from getting scooped up Yeah He booked out and races wanted and wanted to kill sammy dang this he's like, uh, uh, I don't think so that's my nigga Mother niggas Mother niggas I don't know, but that nigga, you know, i'm sorry Definitely snatcher came up there like no, no, just him just him Sammy trying to weigh mother niggas in You think it's good. I'm niggas will be back. Can we move on to shattershark? Yeah, I have a theory about this first let's go when y'all put this in a group chat bank I was about to click on it. I was living in the middle of the bear's locker. I'm not clicking on this I was about to click on it and I saw First of all, I didn't see the camera although. I just got to be something nasty I was like, I'm not clicking on this and look at me some moaning sounds coming from my phone so I had show to describe it And then Mikey and Donte were like describing it without telling me that they're like, oh, you're off use that pill I was like, what are they talking about? Well, so I didn't I didn't wait I didn't wait when I was getting ready to leave and I played in the car I was like, what is going on? Here's my theory. Okay, go ahead First of all He didn't on purpose He said that he threw the phone On the bed And went on live. I want you to take your iPhone right now Throw it on whatever is near you multiple times and see if that bitch cut on on IG live Do that for me and see if that's good. They're going live. You gotta open your phone Go to the app Click on your app. Click on going live And then even when you go on live, you gotta click it like four times before you actually go on live So I believe he did this and this is my theory work Because he doesn't like being called yet and also when he said, oh, yeah Cat Williams called me and said you not gay today like Kim said who asked you And if you were okay, whatever It's 2024. That shouldn't be shocked value anymore I think that he did this on purpose and also knows he has ranked with ESPN and knows nothing's gonna happen to him ESPN came out. They said We have we're not gonna be punishing because he won the three niggas on that network Who ain't gonna get suspended? It's him, Stephen. They didn't of course, but math would be fat Mac but he'd get away with murder That's why I think he did it to prove to people That he's not gay because I just don't believe even the oldest of old niggas That you just going live like that and then the way he was talking about him. Oh, so he said, yeah, no I'm telling you I was doing it. I got the counters right here Like it just it just didn't feel Believable to me now it worked Because we're talking about him You want to go from the media standpoint? This has been the year of Shannon Sharp Shannon Sharp when he got for him getting fired from F. S. What was the best thing to happen to him? He went to another level From first take him being on there with Stephen. They You can argue his platform is bigger than Stephen. I did not Every interview he does is two million. You got an interview of maul and wands This is not to respect the maul and wands. Maul wins one of my favorite I'm not my favorite But I like maul and wands content. I believe the wands family it needs to be a documentary It's good like a five-part documentary on the wands family. Well, if you got an interview of maul and wands doing two or three million You really got the juice And then I watched night night cap last night. It was like 600,000 people watching that live stream Just hear what he's gonna say. So I think it was a fluency stunt A well-executed fluency stunt, but that's what I think it is. There's no way it just came on naturally When I was used to throw parties there was a like and some people still do it to the day Two day rather um an old promoter trick where You would save yo Like your birthday for slo much and right now is considered like a slow season because Like it's it's right before the holidays. You know you go to your thing for thanksgiving for christmas You know the summer is going to be the summer You know what i'm saying? And like you you you need you know, you can make your thing happen around valentine's day, etc And right around now is considered that window of where Um, it's the perfect time to have a birthday and if your birthday ain't then I know a bunch of promoters who birthdays in april of july who had just saved that shit to You know september, you know, I'm saying somewhere around there Frankly because there's nothing else happening and when I seen the shannon sharp shit Like that's the first thing that came to mind I think that he like you say he came out the gate this year But you know a phenomenal year from cat Williams and every since then you know Um, he he'd been able to you know do interviews that that do crazy numbers, but the thing is so much of his shit is Strongly contingent on guests, you know what i'm saying? So I think you know he he nobody of desk that sure is making a mistake at this point You know what i mean? So a mistake that i magnitude rather especially if his platform is about social media Like social media is his thing it ain't like, you know, he'd do some other shit and social media on the side You know what i'm saying? So like it's it's I think it's him, you know september in the direction of of getting you know his name out in front of something You know solely for him, you know, and maybe The sexuality does play a role, you know what i mean? It's it's content that he becomes the center of attention of without like Apparently he had to be you know have some girl over there makers No, I don't think in it it should is real, you know what i'm saying? But um, I do think that You know, it's it's some strategic shit that you know Can't hold him around like can he keep his name in front of stuff make him the center of attention Maybe he can do some shows by his self at some point You know, but I mean that shouldn't I mean that's your week. Oh, that's just like stupid to say actually I don't even know why i even have two minutes on that y'all go ahead. Hey, man Scott, what you say? Everything has a rollout Everything has a rollout everything and i'm just waiting on what the rollout of whatever's common is common um yeah For him saying what he said about The instagram like you got a you got to take three steps Before you even get to the live You have to log on matter fact more than that you have to log on instagram You have to press the button to get To the area where you can go live And then Two minutes just to find the foot Shains where it is like that should 30 years younger than this again. It took me two minutes. Hey, what? Hey, siri go instagram online. You can't even do that shit so He lined his ass up He was better off saying he better off keeping it to i got hacked and maybe so espn The truth and espn was like, yo, you you If this was the Dallas Cowboys my nigga, you you you mike work You mike her like steve and a is in miss smith You mike work that man and pat mackafee is Maybe that's the case But you ain't got a lot of kick it mai ji and i watched that live too and when he said That cat wings called me and was like, well, you ain't gay First of all, I was like, that's bullshit because there's a lot of niggas who eat cat and still like niggas like Make okay, maybe you not gay. Maybe you're by such no, did you see ochos reaction? It's like it was an actual relief that he wasn't gay Right, he was like, oh, damn mind. Oh, so said. Oh, so said. I am so so glad it was a michelle and not a micro I was like, what do you mean? Like really thought he was Like, I don't know if y'all be watching them could have been record shits On the mythus episode and niggas was like, uh, uh, what the niggas said his braise is teeny tiny I'm a real sweet nigga. I'm a real sweet nigga That's right. I'm a real sweet nigga It is funny me because it's just like there's no point of it Like it's not like he needed a moment I it was no it was literally no point in what happened whatsoever Snow point you got the new deal from ESPN Club shay shay still doing numbers Everybody that's under the shay shay media joint is doing numbers your youtube is still doing numbers unless I mean, I don't want to Question another man sexuality or reasons why you have to do something to Not that there's anything wrong with it. No, there's nothing wrong with that These fruits got y'all niggas spooked Jumping out the way Say Black jesus or something. He was like, don't laugh too hard. They'll take me to Yeah I don't know what it is, but Everything that happened Did not need to happen He did not need to go on live and like yo niggas about to hit me eating pussy Because the fact of the matter is we heard it. We ain't see shit He was better if if this was the prove you ain't then nigga, you should have just been in the camera Like veing rames and baby boy and called to the night But you wasn't we heard audio my nigga Yo ass could have been eating the goddamn watermelon with machella's And then you've been like yo just born do some shit About the just watermelon. We gonna make it sound like it not saying I want to see Shannon sharpen anything I'm just saying If this was if if cat Williams called you and said that maybe cat Williams saw something we see But all I saw was a door Man the fact that you like, I mean, there's a lot wrong with that You know the whole cat william shit the whole like I don't even understand man. That's just a real sweet nigga shit Because you can define it as like anything about this It ain't no shot at nobody like you say they sexuality is what it is but I mean, that's what news is today. I guess, you know what I mean? I was watching this one show with my girl Love at the lockup And um as i've seen now watching the shit like Every premise was centered around like every cup that I hit the screen was talking about like how they just had sex And I was just like what what what's in the producer notes? Which shit today? Well, like every conversation. Yeah, it's like yeah, so we had sex last night I'm like like did the next one. Yeah, so I just came home and we had sex or they won't have sex Like what the fuck is going on? Like I know i'm older than watch but god. Yeah, I think I just feel like the whole world is over horny right now I don't have no opinion on that shit. Yeah, I mean, I just kind of want to do, you know get your opinion, but I'm gonna be standing I was getting old show. I was getting old show I was actively well some niggas do or like who actively like talks they owe me a vote Yeah A lot of niggas But when niggas do that it's like you trying to like what you trying to prove bro I don't I just think a lot of niggas do that bro Like especially especially athlete niggas. They that's it's like locker room talk I feel like what you're trying to prove though, bro And I don't think about none of the prove just niggas just be wild I don't want to know what you did with a little bit like I don't need to like I don't care about your proud of my nigga Love my nigga like do your name my nigga My friends intimate details with women. I don't know how they way to tell you that they smacked some Yeah, well that I didn't need to say that like niggas go out. They way to tell you like They go out. They way to tell you stuff. They usually one but but anyway, I want to move one too We lost a couple of legends this week. Well, not just you know, I don't want to uh leave rich on me quan out of it Either rp rich on me quan. I know that sounded crazy. That's how I didn't mean it like that The legends and rich on me quan I'm be real with you rich homie me more than all them people to me besides freaky Beverly That's fine. I didn't even know who James Earl was. I'm gonna keep it. You had never Was broken coming to America. I had no idea. I'd never seen that man before That's dark beta From lion king had no idea Had no idea But yeah, I didn't mean to disrespect Rich on these the only one I was three gentlemen. I've actually met so let me let me put some respect on rich on me But it started rich on me quan passing Uh, a lot of love he got from the football community this week I'm like that was a big end zone. I feel like the rich homie. She was kind of fucked up man because like Even with people showing bro love it's like Y'all wasn't fucking with bro He wasn't he didn't have a hit record. Let's be real about that. No Well, we gotta be good. No, no, but we got to be real as to why because the whole shit with him and thug Is the way hold on What are you got to put me on game? I don't know. I don't know. Okay. So the reason why I wanted okay so Okay, so a lot of the thug Rico it's because of the shit he did to people who are rich homie quan homies Oh, okay. I know that. Yeah, like the yeah, yeah, you're like dude. Nothing who got killed I think was rich homie quan's manager or some shit Oh, wow It's gotta be quan daddy barbershop like a lot of it is like yeah, like a lot of the shit is that Like that's why rich homie fell back and like a lot of these like a lot of people in like Atlanta The thug is thug and thug was popping they went with thugs. So everybody was like, oh my god rich homie It's like nigga y'all niggas not saying y'all y'all like the more I hear about young thugs charm like he should probably be in jail He should probably be in jail. He's me. He might not go but he should actually probably really be in jail I'm sorry off the stuff. He'll tell me. It's just No, no, no nigga the nigga woody said yeah So he said yeah, so anything I say can't be using him like that's right Yeah, so we started rich homie quan daddy barbershop like the nigga said it ended like like that is a lot of the thing So when everybody was like, oh my god rich homie I'm so sad. It's like not to say you made the nigga do drugs I'm sure the nigga was doing drugs regardless But like y'all might have been some of the reason why this nigga was maybe depressed and like you know It might have been y'all I mean a lot of that too though if you look at that um You can say that with with a lot of stars that die like I've been on the hill that i'll be on here I'll be I don't care none of y'all niggas like coby. I'm I'm a kid You don't want to see anybody die But it's outpouring of love I saw him coby to me and still some of the figure should i've ever seen in my life And I love nimsey I don't I I I love listening mibsy outside of me and a couple other niggas I didn't know too many niggas like shot might my brother might miking him had a shirt and said damn I text him like if you don't know the nimsey song like what are we doing like like so to me I think that's with anybody who like some people just want to get in On the the you know the I guess like not the bug Well, you guys they want to be a part of some now me and pal. I've made that me Happens you call yourself the uh the reason ambassador for the type of way we we listen to Oh nigga. Oh nigga. No, no nig. I still was the very first nigga to come back to chicago And type away nigga. I still want my royalties for that song So I fucked with rich homie I fucked with rich homie. Yeah back in the day. I super fucked with rich homie But yeah a lot of this and rich can't take held us down on first month of l.x I played that shit all the way to l.a. When I first moved l.a. I was that what was that terrible alcohol used to drink in thomas crew? We first got president the president president that they nigga The president The shit was a $11 bottle of whiskey boy. That was some of the And let's say we didn't get out nigga. We was in del taco del taco. Yeah Yeah But yeah, but yeah, but yeah, no a lot of the rich a lot of the young third cases tied up with rich homie Like that's a lot of it is tied up with that I didn't know that I learned something a lot of it is tied up with that You're probably right about that. I didn't know I mean rich homie definitely rest in peace man. Uh, I don't know the details You just gave me a little insight as well But um, you know from frank either, you know, I'm saying this is arguably You know frankie Beverly amaze man. I I think that that was like a The songs that he was responsible for Man, I don't I'll believe them songs that ever die man. You know, you know, you know, black national atoms, man You know, I don't even know when before I let you go. You even got made I don't even know I knew those songs before I knew frankie. Yeah, like I didn't even know who bro like I didn't even yeah It's just like that was a record that everybody. I don't even know how it became like hot Like who was the nigga decided like yo, this is the this is the shit That's a good look this up. I'm looking it up now before I let go Oh, well golden time of day that came that's my joint too. That's 1981 Um, let me see Yep 81 came out on an album fair. That was yeah, that was a single came out of 81 You mark. Have you seen them? Did you see them live? Um, I mean I didn't I would argue that frankie Beverly really broke the dad hat Mmm, you know, I'm saying Like I what I seen them from a distance do on these cruises and then he's you know his circuit Like I reckon niggas ain't really rocked the dad hat like that You know, I'm sad before frankie Beverly. That's a boy. I never even I never even Talked about it. Yeah Was it again? I said I believe frankie Beverly is like who broke the dad hat like I don't I can't I don't know So first of all shouts out to calve on stage Um and whoever tweeted this dad asked on twitter. Who is the most black famous person In the world and calve on stage was like that's frankie Beverly Don't know why people know who frankie Beverly is. And he is all niggas. He's like a snoop dog of black people Yes, he's the snoop dog We can't let that quote go on the snoop dog of black people. Yes Frankie Beverly I will go on the same. I think it says snoop belong to them now Niggas belong to the globe. Oh, he could look like Talk of black people That's funny. So I believe that I believe that That frankie Beverly especially at her age group is the most famous black person and entertainment to a certain group I Like everybody we talked about on the show man. We talked about the airy crown shit Like he's the king of that shit. So When time journey retired, he did this one more time tour and When he did that tour frankie was one of the people and on the first leg of the tour in dc frankie performed And I started seeing people come in with the white dad hat Some people had the white tank top some of them just had the white long sleeve with the white lended pants and the white boat shoes and i'm sitting around like Okay I think we're about to get something And I His voice was was was going But the crowd didn't care my nigga They didn't care they were a frankie. We got you And they had them. I've never seen a show Like what I saw That night for somebody whose voice wasn't the best I was like I see what these old heads feel So I saw frankie where I was leaving the mgm national harber. I saw And him and his group I was like, I fuck this. I don't know if i'm gonna ever get a chance to do this again. I walked up to him was like, look I'm a younger I didn't know I totally understand why people flock to your shelves Congratulations And good luck, man. Thank you. He was like him. My brother. Thank you. And we hugged it out and he From there that was it That's that's an amazing story right there. Did y'all see the video of a frankie bubbly and uh ron ozzly Yeah, yeah, I saw that too Yeah, the backstage joint is always good to see old heads Embrace each other like that boy. I think you know, like you said his moves gonna live on forever like Like that's songs that when it I know now obviously but the time I didn't know what's his because they're just so um iconic, man I'm trying to think Anything else. I know I had something else on the rundown, but Oh, you know presidential debate was the funniest Like bro that nigga g that g the nigga I'm still stuck on the niggas sitting abdulla picture g that nigga spent abdu t the niggas in go wake biting out the bed at opm g I laughed about that that nigga is so mad Is one of the funniest niggas I think in the history of humanity, bro Yeah, if he wasn't trying to one if he didn't have the nuclear colds and two if he wasn't trying to get the nuclear colds again Yes, I could appreciate his humor more because a nigga is hilarious That nigga said well, let me tell you something right now. Let's talk about shina India She's not black. Uh, I think you know, she wants to be black. That's good. It's a lot of a lot of good ones She said she said they leave your rallies early. He said they'll really go to yours I was born the fucking floor I was like, yo, this nigga. It's a rally statement hit him in the hit him in the chest You know, that's one of this one of the funniest niggas of all time, bro He's like all time dog. The funniest thing about this Whole thing is like I'm not a big Kamala fan either. I really don't even fucking show you like that but I'm choosing between the two then it's it's something where like I think somebody said if Kamala was really the person that Trump was describing. This would be a landslide Like she's a Democrat to my she owned guns and she kept trying to say oh, yeah Fuck national Some things concern me. I packed that thing too What gee I watched I've never watched the full presidential debate. I watched every single second of that That literally might have been one of the funniest things I've ever Politician could have trapped Kamala that nigga just so stupid that he fell for the bait every time Nah, that's the thing though. I think he's had it so sweet up into this point Yo, like because I think Trump like up into this point He he really hasn't had to be a politician. I think this is first time like Really feeling the need to be a politician. He's been able to be a you know it pretty much like a fucking Grammar school football coach, you know, I'm saying like just try to motivate his troops on one side Like not real motivation, but just a few key words here and there And then you know, just be funny the rest of the way He know that's what's gonna go viral or shit but like up until this point like He'd been able to get away with it because the competition was fucking Like essentially evaporating the nigga biting was just such a bad Like candidate that it made trump look like a feasible candidate You know what i'm saying? I also think people I think we underestimate How much people actually hated Hillary Clinton? Like I think we really underestimate how much people hated her. Well, she had a lot of blood on her hands You know what i'm saying? She didn't understand I mean that ain't got nothing to do with it. I'm even Yeah, that too, but also I think that like that also goes into it It's like yo, you can't even like stop your husband from getting hit in the over office. You're gonna need the country I mean, no bitch can really stop No, but like we all know about stop when the nigga is crazy Like we all know So yeah, you know he can choose not to the fact that he chose to is quite embarrassed in the over office Yeah, we all know about him and that was your husband But yeah, nigga trump man. He he definitely if this wasn't for presidency I think he would arguably beat anybody the fact that he may lose Is like that keeps like a glimmer of hope in my eyes about just our society because like It like he he makes a fair argument. I see I haven't seen people more aesthetic about Like representing a particular candidate for who they are individually Not even obama had the support like obama We loved obama because he was black like black people love trump because he is trump You know what i'm saying? So like it's it's a different type of love and adoration that he gets from all of his supporters Where it's extremely personal with him and it make it like extremely anti-other person So like, you know, I I think is almost kind of like important for that negative lose Because like yeah, you know what i'm saying? I mean for several reasons But like one in particular it's just in a way that we view a politician and like um Like the route to victory is so it should remind me of some like everybody hates christmas. I'm whereas like Is this nigga for real? You know what i'm saying? No, he dead ass and his fans and supporters are like, no, we dead ass Like, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's what makes it crazy because I said if If we weren't such a divided country, you would watch that Debate in all this is gonna be a landslide, but it's not I think Kamala's gonna win But I think it's gonna be very close I personally don't think it's gonna get decided that same night. I want to be wrong But I just I don't have any faith in americans Was like I think mala's gonna win, but we're not shocking me if you want to get but I personally think I don't even think he wants to keep running to be honest. I think that they're playing back How many times has he read This is the third time that he's running Actually, it might be the fourth because he tried to come before yeah, he tried to run before he just did That's when we have regular republicans Uh So he didn't make it through the ranks You know what i'm saying like and this is not that these are good cosines because they're terrible people too But if you got like you haven't seen one former republican president Back him up the nigga tried to kill his vice president I don't think we we talk about he tried to hang my pants like the insurrection is one of the stuff that I saw happened I still can't believe happened. They legitimately tried to hang my pants Like we don't speak about that enough. They said nigga. Do you got a plan buddy? I said I have a concept of a plan I have a concept of a plan You know, you started the job in a couple of like Big deal said I have a concept of a plan For years You know that nigga said i'm not president yet What you want me to do It was hilarious. It was hilarious was sad at the same time like I just came wait I want to get back to regular elections so I can stop but that but but also that's why the people who love and love them Because no other politician would actively say that Yeah, no, I get being entertained by it. I don't know but like that's why that's why the People who love him love him because no other politician like a lot of motherfuckers don't be having plans But they would lie. He wouldn't say I have a concept of a plan Just the issue to me when I'm not even gonna get into why black people are Trump That's a whole muck muddy another hour episode, but let's just say his uh white trash Hillbilly type fans, right? He don't even like y'all Like y'all still have some hell bit against obama kid that helps y'all out You know that right like y'all niggas ain't got no money either Like with several like bringing him home. Okay, uh white rich woman from texas supporting trump Oh big stock it up. I'll give our people with money like that nigga I don't get the people who don't got no money like you should be doing against everything because they That that that that they relates because it like I said like he how do they relate to trump though? Because he's rich or not no because he's the first like merc said he's never had to be a politician Right. He's just been like himself So they look at him as like the anti-politician whereas again like most like I said even that one answer, right? Most politicians would give you a whole bunch of ramble, but actually say nothing and don't have a plan He will actually say like no, I don't have one yet, but i'm not because i'm not president That wouldn't make Somebody who's in those situations who isn't and then again he doesn't use very many big words Like he's a he's a good speaker for who he's talking to he doesn't use very many big words It sounds hilarious. He knows the key words to say so if you're somebody who has I don't know a fucking 10th grade education, which probably a lot of the country does especially in like his like in when fucking west virginia On the farm and you don't know what I don't know. Let's say diabolical means I don't know but I said you don't know what those words mean But you know what but you know what every four letter word means that he uses like he speaks to you As opposed to some other candidate like I don't know like, you know, obama seem like yeah gracing class and you might not even know Excuse me. What the fuck he was saying half the time because he was such a good speaker because he wasn't I don't want to say the man is stupid But like he was because he was more intelligent I feel than what trump is it with with with how he speaks you can relate to that so I can understand how somebody um How his fans? Especially the ones who aren't as educated as maybe some other americans could look at him and be like, yo He's my guy. I get it Yeah, I mean, I think that shit is fucked up because like he get a lot of credit for quote unquote keeping it real But like he remind me He not only do he be lying like that nigga Part was the funnest part of the bed and they could be so strong and wrong. Yeah, like like And and I think his Like supporters like and I said this a while ago Like the allure of being a trump supporter is it's kind of fizzled out like You know a lot of niggas are antagonists that you wouldn't be like, yeah, I fuck with big t He that nigga, man. He go cut us $1,200. Whatever the fuck like it's like all right cool Let me get you $1,200 then for your motherfucking sanity and yo You're so big about $1,200. He didn't even want me to come out. He held him up to put his name on the chair He didn't have nothing to do with him. Yeah, that was a different plan Right. So like but that that ain't even like that even half the like like have we're just saying he would go People like him because he'll say I I ain't got a plan but like That that takes a certain level of transparency and honesty, but that's also not good enough money You shouldn't say that What are you doing? You shouldn't have a fucking plan That is also two of people I just wish you would be real about it I just say I don't want to vote for a little bit because it's funny when people say what's come out as policies What's this nigga's policies? But and like I said, I'm not even like I don't really mess would come out like that to be completely honest Right at all. I don't think she gonna do half the stuff She says she gonna do but if that means getting this nigga not in office again I I do what I gotta do. I'll just wouldn't I just won't regular public is back You know saying what I'm just worried about raising taxes. I won't like better politicians for Country and general, but the problem is we are No, we are the generation that's supposed to be getting into politics and we want to make tiktoks and be We are the generation Niggas don't know what nato is niggas really don't know what nato is. I actually know I know everything about fucking nato I know why motherfucker leave cuz goddamn we the only niggas who spend money on fucking defense every other country in the goddamn world Don't even spend two percent a budget on defense, but that's a whole nother I know And my food is coming up pulling up round of blocks. So we're gonna wrap this up Okay, I'm getting into Thursday night football mode Great conversation looking forward to talk with y'all again next week if you listen to this on a free fee I'll be live in europe next week. You'll be live from europe next week. So are you going from Houston to europe? Yeah, I'm going for Houston to answer them Okay, Houston to answer them. He's gonna be back out there in London again next month. Well, yeah London and Paris London and Paris. I'll be in London next month too nigga. We out here We out here. Oh all the gang gonna be gonna be out there in London. Don't be a fun time So we are we up out of here man. Well, let's y'all [BLANK_AUDIO]