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The Go Radio Football Show 24th September
This is The Good Radio Football Show. Listen anytime, whatever you get, your podcasts. Call, wait, wait, it's 17, 17, 700. Let's go! Good evening, this is Paul Cooney for the next two hours. You know who's with me? John Hartson and Stephen McGinn. Stephen McGinn, who said a few weeks ago, folk cook, newly promoted, could win the championship. They could come up. His manager is former manager, John McGinn, wasn't too happy. But my goodness, what a performance by folk cook at the weekend. But John, your old team, 5-2, for Celtic against folk cook, but folk cook made a real fist of it. Yeah, they did, you know, I don't sound like they made eight changes, and you never expected it to go as comfortable, maybe at the start of the game, as what you expected. Really, you always knew folk cook were going to come and have a go, because they're a very good side. Especially under John McGinn, invincibles, obviously last season, won the league. But you did feel as well, Paul. I was watching it, and I thought, even a two-one down, I was still thinking in my head. Senator will come back here. Even with 20 minutes to go. Yeah, I never really thought they were in big danger. You know, I've watched Celtic for a long time, but they go to the very, very end. And with the quality, you know, that they have as well. But credit to folk cook, they came to Celtic Park, and they had a right go at the champions. Just in the end, they just fell short. Stephen, I heard you on the beeb there. So did you see your old teammates there? You were captain, of course, till just a few months ago. Yeah, it was good to see some of the guys, the manager, before the game, speak to them. And the message was pretty loud and clear. They were coming to not just enjoy it, but to have a go at Celtic. And I think they put on a really good show. It was a brilliant game to watch. So different to a lot of games. Domestically, it's Celtic Park. So refreshing to see an in a basketball game. I understand Celtic made a lot of changes, and that helps with folk cuts cause. I knew back four, probably back four. You could point to not really been a Celtic back four. And folk cook made it to the advantage and got at them. And it made for a really good game. And I think they showed the country, obviously they've beaten down the 90s and hearts already this season, that the games weren't a fluke, but they're a good side. A lot of good young Scottish players. And I think whoever finishes above folk cook will win the championship. Celtic, who go through to the semi-final against Aberdeen, and Rangers against multiple. Rangers winning three-nil against Dundee on the return to Iberk so the weekend a double for Deserts. That's what seven goals for him now. And it was Tavinia with a penalty, his first goal of the season. For Rangers, we heard John Gilligan yesterday. We'll hear a bit more tonight, the interim chairman. Speaking, Dave, come on. Pipe down a little bit and let's get on with it. He's referring to Dave King. Those are not the words he said. We heard from him last night. Rangers fans, what are you thinking then? Because Rangers will be on the plane tomorrow, heading for Malmo, Stephen. And I know you were across their game with Hacken at the weekend. That was a big win for Malmo. Yeah, you just-- you try and go in evidence of-- I mean, Scottish teams are playing these teams this time at Sweden a couple of years ago. I thought Hacken were a very good side. Gwen exciting side against Aberdeen. And really impressive victory. And what's a really impressive season again from Malmo 11 clear and domestically? Obviously took out PAOK and one of the qualifiers who we saw were such a good side against hats a couple of years ago. And good beat for now over the two legs against Sparta. So they're obviously not perfect, but I don't think they're any mugs. And I think it's going to be a really tough game for Rangers in Sweden. You're up a league, John. You know what, well, as the UEFA, you went all the way to the final with Celtic. And there's some great teams in there. Malmo, Rangers record over the years. They haven't beaten them, I think, in recent times. Saw the figures today. The reasons we were going there wanted to get a decent result. It's a format like the Champions League. It's the new league. Yeah, and not just on Thursday, now Thursday night, Thursday night, the game is year. They've got an awful lot of good, good fixtures in their group. And they Manchester United is one. Several other come up against a really big team. So that'll be great. That'll be good for the purse strings as well. And obviously if they can show that they can, you know, they've done it in the past. They've had good Europa League runs in the past. And they'll want to get off to a flyer against Malmo on Thursday night. There's no doubt about that. The one thing they don't want to do is go and get beat heavy. And then obviously that'll then continue in the next few games. But they go with a bit of confidence, great result at the weekend back at their home. So, you know, the spirits will be high in the camp. No doubt about it. Rangers fans, how are you feeling ahead of it? Are you going to the match? Give us a call. Oh, wait, oh, wait, 17, 17, 700 are joined the conversation at Go Football show, Paul Kinney, Stephen McGinn. And Big Bad John Hartson, who's all team Arsenal, accused of the dark arts. You see, that was some game job. We'll look into it in detail just now. But you'd be gutted with a 97th minute goal there for Man City. Is it the dark arts time wasting and all the rest? Well, yeah, well, why not? You know, I loved it. You know, you can't, with 10 men, you can't just go at you know, one of the best teams in the world. And because they're completed this round, they play around you. So get every behind the ball, make yourself difficult to concede, defend through the kitchen sink at it. And I thought Man City actually were a bit disappointed. They could open up Arsenal, they could open Arsenal up. And it took that last minute golden that John Stone sued to get the equaliser. But no, I've got nothing against it. As I said, what are you looking for a result? And you're down to 10 men. You're not exactly going to take them on. Now you, so they got a bit of criticism for it. But other teams would do it. No doubt about other teams would do that. Of course, and Arsenal with a big chance because Rodger now injured. We know the brine has been injured as well. Who knows what's going to happen down south? Who's going to win here in Scotland? Celtic out in front of the moment, along with Aberdeen. And that's some Cup semi-final, John, isn't it? It's the weekend of the second and the third. We gave you the dates last night. Celtic Aberdeen, tasty. Well, yeah, and everybody, naturally, people will be saying "Oh, the Rangers and Salty got a chance to meet in the final." And I tend to think that's ever so disrespectful, especially to Aberdeen. Oh, for me, I've been terrific. They made a really, really good start to the season. Surprised a lot of people. So that's going to be a tough one for Salty to get past Aberdeen. And obviously, the other semi-final as well will be just as tricky for Rangers. Salty will be Rangers against Monneville. Other big news that came out at the weekend, Stephen Naismith, second manager of the month, actually. It was Craig Levine the week before. It's now Stephen Naismith's gone. We heard about the Tony Bloom money coming in from Brighton. It's not confirmed yet. But does this mean there's going to be a twist, Stephen, and who it might be, rather than the contenders, who you might think from Scotland. I know they've said, "Derek McKinnis, you're all boss." What do you reckon? Yeah, well, there's lots of speculation going around at the minute in terms of Tony Bloom and who he might appoint. That deal needs to be completed first. I'm sure there's maybe lots to be tied up. Whether that eventually goes through. But what hacks need as a manager and they need them in quickly. 44 days after giving out new contracts to the manager. It's just getting hard on harder to be a manager. The club's just really aren't sticking. And it just seems that the fans start to go. They start to kind of chant against the manager. There's not many strong boards out there that are willing to put the next in the line and say, "No, he's our man and we're sticking with him." It's a real shame for somebody to go so soon, John, but you wonder why did they issue that contract at just 44 days before? I think it's strange. It's not as if the manager was about to go somewhere else. They probably didn't need to do it. - Well, Nick Smith. - Yeah, we'll call me on the back of when we finished last season, you know? So for me, every manager knows Paul. Every single manager in the game knows that it's a result business. And if you were losing eight consecutive games on the spin, you got me thinking to yourself, "By the way, my neck's on the chopping block here. "I'm looking over my shoulder, desperate for a win." And maybe a win keeps you in the job for a number of more weeks and you've got a chance to turn it around. But eight games, I'm sure with Stephen Eismann sitting himself, "Oh, do you know what?" I need to do a bit better than that, you know? - It wasn't good at all. And the record they've got against the number of managers who lose their job after a game of defeat to St. Maren. It's uncanny, Stephen, now that you're back at St. Maren. - Yeah, I think the St. Maren fans have a bit of fun with that. But the game itself, I mean, the game that loses his job, that's third in the league from last year against Fifth in the league, away from home, and itself, it's always going to be a difficult fixture. That's a game you can win if you play well, but you can also lose it. It was a game of really tight margins, the reset piece goals. - Olesania again, how many goals is that now? - Yeah, it's amazing to turn it into Olesania. You know, a couple of years ago, he went on Luntair Brofe and really looked, it just looked to be a bad sign in, from some one point of view. And he's, I think he's had that fright, but he's really looked like, where's my career going? And he's kept on, and yeah, he's been St. Maren's main man in six goals in 11 games, really impressive. - I think a lot as well for Naismith is that, they haven't really been really bad in all the games that they've been beat a bit. There's been a few decent performances in there. So when you haven't won for a while, and he's just desperate for winning, you're down there, things tend to go against you. You know, and obviously that's what's happened, because I would imagine, it hasn't all been poor, poor performances, just results. And sometimes I think the board and the hierarchy, look at the results, maybe more than the performances. - There were a Lambell's a few weeks ago against and deal. Remember they went four down and then Vars said, nope, it's okay, it was still three. Anyway, you're in the mood for course tonight, guys, just looking at you both, yep, and ready for course, John. - Are you ready Stephen? Oh wait, oh wait, 17, 17, 700. Paul is on the line, a big Rangers fan. Hi Paul, good evening. - Hi guys, thanks for looking on your show. - No problem, good to hear you. What are you thinking tonight, Paul? - And just before I make my main point, Paul, just so he's about a wee bit a joke, right? He has a favorite for you for the half's job, this name will probably pop up, make up you, pop up a hand down for that, because he's doing good for that job. - On Michael Bale, I mean, he helped Rangers to get the title in 2020. - Got me, that's my up, Paul, I don't think so. - Okay, I don't think he's one. - I don't think so, yeah. - 2020-21, wasn't it, John Colvin? All right, Michael Bale, yeah, at least- - Are you the school of the Saudi to be a terrorist assistant? - All right, well, you never know John, is that you're joking on that? - No, my mate, my mate, my wife's mate, Darren Davis is doing that job now. - Okay, yeah, you are kidding on that, John, aren't you, 'cause somebody will think that that's real. - Paul, right, serious business, Rangers, back in Europe, what are you thinking? - Yeah, I, at the main point, yeah, I don't want you guys to think about that. I've always talked with Tarv, and you know what they made, but I want us to do it, it's a genuine question. - For want Kim Oombe, and that's his part to be, he came out, he said, James Tarv, he had time, so he said, "I mean, this is him, I mean, you know, "and he'd be like, 50, 60, Kims." - Okay. - "Tell me, Dick, it's a good, molly good of being Kims." But he's still putting up the Kim, even against an elite cop, which is probably that you can tend to use, depending on, like, maybe lean curly, or make a few changes, that make a few changes, I guess, indeed. But Tarv didn't assume it was a special game, so it's a top-class mantra, I do have faith in the boys, but these are the types of things I do professionally, but when I should be able to get a break, because I've got stairlands, it's a big, big part, because I think some of these are deep, but they haven't been there, so I've been talking to a thousand various people about that, and you're still keeping work, 'cause it's hard when you've got this contract, it's to be so many games, I mean, just because I can't bother many of them. We haven't been to this, it's just that they've seen all the time, other than that, but then... - And what's your point, Paul? I'm not quite sure, what are you saying? You want to see it? - That's a point being that, well, it's hard when you run out here, and I'm too fast. This is what I want to say, we killed off now last year, and the drop points against all of Elle and Ross County, why do we process the great stuff here that we've seen? - All right, why does he always play him? What do you think, guys? 'Cause, yeah, what will you reckon? - In recent weeks, he's had an awful time, wasn't he, to have an, you know, he's... - Innovation at the weekend, or as you know, so it turned a little bit. - Yeah, but he's had a take, quite a lot of abuse, he's talking about leaving the club, he's talking about this, and the other. Everybody came, his manager backed him, and said he can deal with it, you know, he's been a great player this, that, and the other, but he did receive an awful lot of criticism. So maybe the manager's looking at it and thinking, well, I need to keep playing him, 'cause he needs to get his confidence back. So I'll keep playing. One of the things that you won't want to do is maybe take him out to the side, 'cause then people will start, you know, putting two and two together, coming up with five, and saying, well, he's leaving him out because he hasn't really been playing well. Obviously, the manager's a big fan of Tavernier, so I believe that could be a reason, he's trying to get him to bring his confidence back. - Here's what the manager said about him after the 3-0 win against Dundee. - No, it's normal, I think. It's normal, he played a good game, and he deserves that. And maybe after the Salty game, we have a few individuals who are crossing a certain line, what's not good, and I understand the frustration, but there are a lot of people who understand the value that Dev had and has for this quad, and that's also good for him to feel that. But that's the life of being a captain in a big club. You're the symbol in the good days, and then it's nice, like today. And in the difficult days, you're also the one everybody looks at, but that's life of being a captain or a manager in that kind of clubs. You need to embrace that also. And he did last couple of weeks. He worked hard, he wanted to dig in, to come back strong, and he helped all the young lads in their integration also, because he has an important job in that also. - Stephen again, what would you say on James Tavernier? - You know what I think I said a couple of weeks ago, my opinions have fluctuated by James Tavernier's situation over the, I thought in a summary, it should have went. I think it was time to go over and just pick on a goats and leave in as well, the way the season looked like they had the league in their hands, and the way it finished, I thought time was up. Then he stays, and after the Celtic game, there was then rumours again, what'd he go just before the transfer window, shot across Europe, and he stayed. Once he's still in the building, I would rotate him, but Paul's talking there about not playing a weekend. I think that's the types of games he has to play. I think he's a difference maker. I think, obviously, the first goal, he sets up with a shot slash cross, flashes at Dessus, get the final touch, and he scores a second goal for my penalty. The other games I would always play a man, it's maybe the games down the line, some of the games you come out, maybe some of the European games, and maybe come back against quick wingers. But that's where I would take him out. But for these games, I think he's a difference maker. My question to Paul would be, it's the other side of the pitch, I'd be worried about this week with Jeff, they've been suspended. Who are you going to play left back? Paul? And just at that, he goes out of range or something, you hear the phone disappear. Paul, see if he'll come back. Yeah, you're back, Paul. What about the left back? Who would you play this weekend? Thursday, suspended, Thursday. And Thursday, sorry. I'll see you for Momo. Yeah. All right, thinking time, that is a problem. Yeah. All right, we'll put you in the spot. Yeah. Yeah, so I think you do, Steve. I mean, you're looking at it and you're thinking, obviously, it's out in range as we go game to game, and it's almost like this problem, obviously, Red Vans enjoyed Barasic's left in the summer. Jeff Day, by all accounts, is doing really well, just fans are really impressed. But it is, I mean, do you put Stalin back in there? They don't even have maybe a Ben Davis, obviously, the left in the summer. It's been very interesting to see if there's a change of formation, what Philip Clemente does, and if Paul's getting the idea, what he thinks he might do. All right, Daniel, Paul. Thank you, too. Yeah, I'm probably going to take that back start, and change your formation, if it comes back to three, or, you know, Stalin can't do multiple successes, as you're always been a bit obsessed by, but I think it takes, I think, if you do that as well, we can think of that option. Stalin's been an interesting one, because he's covered a lot of positions, but he's never really held one of them as his own, and he's not quite got going this year, doesn't seem as if he'll come on. Trust him quite the same, so it takes him off again at halftime, so it's not really, and I think that can be a problem. There's some people that go through their career and they fill in different positions, and it seems to suit them. I think now for Stalin, he has to, they have to decide the position between him and the manager, maybe a conversation, and say, look, I just need one position here to focus on, because my performance levels are dropping, I've not quite kicked on the way I want to do. He had a really promising start, and yeah, I think that'd be having this show. - Is he on Jeff Day and losing it? Was it not a bit naive that they kept him on when he had a booking already in the qualifier? - Yeah, I mean, it's probably gone back. I thought that was a huge mistake on the night from film come on, when I'm sure he really regrets, and down the line, we are now down the line for this moment game. It's affecting him again with, obviously, Red Van Beninger, then it's not ideal. Get over there, as I say, I think it would be a really tricky game, not to have a left-back available. - He's what your manager said about Jeff Day, about transfer window in general, and the ending that loads have come in and have gone out? - Yeah, of course, and we wanted him already in January, and he wanted to come also, but at that moment it was stopped by his team, but we stayed in touch all these months, and he showed also a really desire to come, and to fight for that. So, yeah, of course, I said it so many times already. It was the end of a cycle. We had a lot of players in the squads who were over there, the best periods. We had seven players going out of the building for free, or could go out for free. There was some we wanted to keep, but they could earn much more money somewhere else, so they made that choice. So it was a hard way to start a rebuild, and it just started in that way. We could not do everything in one window, but it's good now that people start to see the young, talented players who came in that they have the quality now, or for the future, for sure, to become important to major players. And I understand that in the beginning there is skepticism about that, because players coming in who never played at this level, so fans want to see that. But if I learned one thing about this club is that the fans know really well what quality is, and they desire quality. So we've been looking for that with the pool, with the money we had, what was not much compared to other teams, to find really quality for the short term, but for sure for the longer term. - The other teams, obviously, compared to Celtic, it's different, but compared to the other teams in the league, then Rangers would be ahead. John, you've thought about Rangers at the back when there's no Jeff Day on Thursday? - Well, I think it might be three. I think Rangers have gone with three at the back in other European games, especially when they go away from home, which means serving them will go left wing back, and you can push Badger Army, furthered up the pitch and obviously tuning on the other side, where Tavernier will go right side center back. So that's an option. I've seen them play the three, especially in the first game away from home, not really expecting Rangers to really go at a mile more from, you know, they'll obviously be conservative, you know, sort of play themselves into the game. And then see how things pan out. But I think it might be three at the back with the injury to, you know, to Jeff Day. - Paul, thanks so much for your call. Oh, eight, oh, eight, 17, 700. Nicholas Kuhn, is he gonna be the steal of the century, three million pounds? He's played so well at the weekend. He's the manager. - Imagine 30 minutes, it's quite nice. And it's so, yeah, it was fantastic. When he came into the game, he's developing into a really, really good player. Being effective, which is what you want, with them without the ball, you know, his press as well for the third goal. When we scored the equalizer, and then he's there to win the ball off the full back, plays it forward, and then we get the third goal. So, and he's two finishes, different types coming in. Great finishing at the bottom corner, the other one really, 'cause he's got time to think, does he go around the keeper with his speed, or does he dink it, and he finished it really well. So it's what we want. You're attacking players, do you want them to create goals, score goals, and they did that. - John, it's not bad, isn't it? You come on, you get what happened now, whatever. And two goals. - Yeah, he was brilliant at the weekend. He was also very, very good against Bratislava in the Champions League last week. I like the way he's just so positive, Paul, he gets on the ball, doesn't really want to play it backwards, looks to go forward all the time. He's quick, he's very tricky with the ball at his feet. And I like the goal he set up for, for Kayoga last week as well, and he almost got to the by-line and just hit it across the goal line and Kayoga was in there, like all good strikers should be. Yeah, I think it's a terrific player, Paul, he's got pace. And I think the longer that he's at Celtic and the more games he plays, I think he's one of those that will only get better. - And he's a sis, Stephen, special. - Yeah, two goals to assess. He was announced his man and match in the stadium for his 30 minutes cameo. I mean, you can't ask much more to one down. In a cup tie, and I know John said he was pretty confident, but it was the first 50 minutes, the second half. I don't even think Celtic's threatened. Nicky Hogar's goal. Falkord were looking pretty comfortable. If he can ever be comfortable in that arena, as a way team. And himself, and I thought on the angles again, I mean, he looks like a bargain for a 11 million. He looks like a serious footballer. But I was one, when I watched Nicholas Koon close to last year, and I was really, I thought he was struggling. I thought the way he was playing, I thought, in quite a physical league, he was going to really struggle. He's adapted his game. He looks like he's had a brilliant pre-season. He looks like he's spent a lot of time running Rodgers, and he's been coached brilliantly. And I think he's gold, a run he makes. It's nearly impossible to mess that way for any team to stop. That run, at that speed, and the delivery of the pass from on the angles, I mean, to get your head up in that quick space, spot the run and play the pass. He doesn't have to break stride, and then the finish is just amazing. Brilliant turn around from Nicholas Koon. And as you say, it's been an issue since Glen and Rodgers come back in terms of the wingals. Now I think Nicholas Koon and Diesen Meide are playing right at the top of their games. Oh wait, oh wait, 17, 17, 700. John Hartson is here. So too, Stephen again. This is the gold radio football show. Listen anytime, whatever you get, your podcasts. Let's go! Let's go! Oh wait, oh wait, 17, 17, 700. European football this week's not the Champions League, it's the Europa League Rangers in for the first time this season. Up against Malmo, Thursday night, we'll be building up to that. And still looking back a little bit to the weekend, when Rangers at a 3-0 win over Dundee. Aberdeen 4-0 against Spartans. Frading out, what by the well. 2-1 against Dundee United. Louis Molt looked of, well he did equalize, seven minutes to go. The goal had come from Zach Robinson just before half time. And then it was the penalty. Lennon Miller, step top, 90 plus one. And that was a huge goal for Young. Lennon Miller now getting a real panel of games under his belt, Stephen. Unbelievable, obviously. Because Paul being a captain there obviously, went to Malmo to win and you're listening to the radio and penalty to Malmo last kick of the ball. And you hear that Lennon Miller stepping up and thinking 18 years old. I mean, I'm feeling the pressure for him, just sitting in my car, just hoping to score the goal, score the penalty. It takes Malmo back to hand in what it means to the club, who've had a difficult year financially, a couple years financially. And he just goes and sends a goal in the wrong way. And he'll be a big player. I think he'll enjoy the stage. Semifinal, Phil House at Handing against Rangers. And they've obviously played the same fixture, obviously in league business at Handing. I think they gave Rangers a fright that day. I think they were well in the game. And I think it were a really close game. Yeah, for Motherwell, it's huge, isn't it? Let's do him again, watch. So I saw that John injured at the weekend. We hope that he's back. I saw it looked as though he'll be out for what we don't know yet. But we was doing all the very best. Be gutted because there's such huge games, not least, by in Munich. Yeah, I mean, the worst bit of an injury is when you start to look at the game. You might miss, obviously. There's huge Champions League games, huge premiership fixtures, and also a couple of internationals for Scotland. I don't know how much he loves going, meeting up with Scotland squad and playing for Scotland. So yeah, but he can only do his bit. He can only concentrate and get himself fit. And it's the worst that's a hamstring. So it's the worst thing he can do is rush back. So take your time, Bella, for a really strong start. It's season again. Good one at the weekend again. Yeah, yeah, really good, because it was local Darby. No, I mean, much that means 1-0 down at half time. And we've fallen the game by the score updates. And so it was great to see it come in 3-1 and a real strong start there having. Finally, we're getting up to it. What about you? You're the big weekend, two big games for under 18 St. Marin. Yeah, well, obviously, the youth cup, it stayed in last night. So yeah, go ahead and enjoy that score. It's not a 5-1, we won. You won 5-1 against. So it was good, I mean, those types of-- the youth cup's brilliant, and not least, because you go with intentional winning a bit. You get to play stadium. The manager comes. Some of the first team guys come. The chairman, et cetera, come. So it's a good platform for the boys and they put it on a good show. And you're the winner at the weekend, as well, a few days ago. So good start to the week. Join for you, as well. I know you'll be watching the Arsenal Game. You're all club Celtic winning, as well. And it's huge for Celtic. Now, the start-- haven't seen you since the Bratislava game. Let's see what the manager was saying about the weekend. And also, we want to talk to you about Dortmund, because Dortmund lost 5-1 to Stuttgart at the weekend. Now, I don't know how many changes they made, but that was a remarkable score line that came in. Here's what the manager said. First of all, what about the injuries? As to Johnson, who was rested at the weekend, and Cameron Carter-Vickers. Yeah, we'll see we come. He has been suffering a wee bit with these sort of metatarsal and below his big toe. We give a little bit of period earlier on a few weeks back. And he was OK, and he's got a little bit of sore. Obviously playing back-to-back games, which is why we've given him to the free. So we'll just assess that, see how that is later in the week. Ali, Ali, would be fine. He just, again, he's had a bit of an issue around his back, so he was having an injection. And of course, that meant he would miss the game. But he'll try and choose to Wednesday and be absolutely fine. So, John, it was almost a week ago since the game, so we won't go back over it all. But 5-1 in Europe is huge. They've got St. Johnson this weekend, Saturday night. Would you expect him to get back towards closer to the starting 11 that you saw against Brattas Lava, with a view to going to Dortmund for next Tuesday? I would. I think if there's going to be changes, I think it'll be one or two. You might see Forrest again for Coon. You know, Coon being playing so well, he might want him to go over to... So, Dortmund and play... And it might be one or two others, I think, maybe Engels. You know, he's played quite a lot, as in the end, but now I don't make him in. I think one or two of his main players he does might start, and maybe might rescue you. But also, you play St. Johnson away, managerless at the minute. You know, they're a dangerous animal, if you like. When they're wounded, you know, animals come out and defend themselves and all that. So, for me, I don't think he can afford to make too many changes. I think you have to go and try and win the game first, and then maybe make two or three substitutions. But, as I said, you know, they've started, you know, started brilliantly in the Scottish Premiership. But he'll have one eye, of course, against Dortmund as well, one eye on that game. So, my answer to your question is, Paul, I think he might make two or three changes, but he certainly won't make eight. You won't make the whole sale changes like he made against Four Cougar the weekend. I think there'll be a couple of changes for St. Johnson from the British Lava team. I'm a bit concerned about Cameron Carter-Vickers. He didn't seem to be, I mean, that was only negative in the night. The British Lava game, it just didn't look comfortable when he was moving. He looked a couple of times when they're always aware that he'll, to be almost like carrying his foot. I know he's getting on going this year that they're managing, and he's still brilliant, isn't he? Even when he's not fully fit. So, I'd be shocked if, I mean, if he has a chance of playing at the end stop now, I'm in no idea he's situation. If he's got a chance of Dortmund, I can't see any way he's going to be risked. It's in Johnson's Saturday night, I expect trusted to play beside Liam Scales. The other change from me would be, I think, Rio Atatis came under a little bit of heat in the Celtic fans, because, Paul Bernard has been, he's been brilliant. He's grown up a few levels, obviously an angle, signing and killing McGregor's always good, but I think Rio Atatis proved to have done that against Brad Slavy, he's a big game player. Yeah. I expect it to be the same midfield, I expect it to be McGregor with angles and Atati in Germany against Dortmund. But this weekend, I could see it maybe being Bernardo and angles in front of killing McGregor. I think Bernardo, I mean, he is battering at the door. I don't think, even in the weekend, the first half Celtic obviously losing in the first half, but I think he was a real bright spot for Celtic. - Lobby's goal. - Outstanding. I mean, real top technique. I think you just forget, sometimes because the way plays almost plays like an experienced player, you forget how young he is. I think even in that last international break and he sees captain for the under-21s, he's, what a bargain, as well, three million pound. - And to be captain of the Portuguese side, the under-21s, it tells you a lot. - Yeah, but also, I mean, he would have been disappointed, obviously, getting into the season might really leave anything. - This is my jersey now and he has not put a foot wrong. Sometimes it happens in football. We're going to sign a play for 11 million pound. He comes in and plays, he takes a jersey, but there's other jerseys available and he can only do what he's doing and I think that's banging the door there. - Join midfield is so important. And one that you know well, who often joins you here, Barry Ferguson said the other night, he reckons that Ernie Engels could prove to be even better and more valuable than Matt O'Reilly. - Yeah, well, that's a big statement from Barry, but you know, he would know, he was a fantastic man, played himself. Engels, yeah, he's come in. Ernie's really, really impressed with him. He's a physical presence in the middle of the park. I think it's exactly what Saldic needed when you've got the likes of McGregor in and around him and then whether it's going to be Bernardo or Hetati, I still think in a game with that sort of magnitude. Next week, I think Hetati starts. I think he's more of a gold threat. He likes to get forward a bit more. I actually, I really like Bernardo and I thought he was, he's been really, really good at the start of the season before Engels arrived, but I still think in the real big game, just going to take Hetati. I think Brendan will still go with Hetati for a while. And then eventually, if it's performance, don't perform, it says don't get to the level of what we expect from Hetati. I think you might well then see Bernardo come in. But seriously, I think against Dortmund, I think if Brendan's going to go with his strongest team, I think Hetati's in there. - Brian's been on the socials today. He's saying Engels, he's in Donegal, Engels a role choice of a player. Stephen, you were going to say? - Yeah, I was just going to say it. I mean, you look back, any good Celtic team over the years has good players that miss out in the starting 11, even back to John's time. I'm sure the big games where Paul Lambert would have been on the bench. You'll look in the last few years, it's not really a £25 million player. Couldn't get in the team for a noise for him. So any good Celtic team, I think this is a sign of a good Celtic team that we are having this conversation, that you're trying to pick three Matilda's from the four top Matilda's. So it's a big club, it's the way it should be at a big club where players are knocking the door down and fans are almost splitting their opinions and well, I want to play them all, but we can only pick three from four. - But you've got options, and that's what any manager wants. - You look at Vala coming at the weekend for Taylor. Broughson coming for Alissa Johnson. So for me, there was a couple of other changes as well, eight changes. And what other team can actually do that and win five two? There's not many, all right, Celtic left it late, but there's almost, I've always said it, all the managers at the top fighting on four fronts which Saturday got one two players for every position, and that's what Saturday have now. - Can I say just touching a vibe, Alex Vai? Greg Taylor is winning over the Celtic fans. I think he has, it's been a long time, that I think the majority of the Celtic fans are with him now. He made a big difference in Sunday. He, even when he was coming in from half time, he looks like a leader. He looks like when he does, he's almost backing at the players. The tempo needs to go. We need to get going here and right from the first, his first action in the game, he was forward again a good area, a good forward pass, and he left it along with the other two subs. It's important to recognise that he came on and really upped the quality and the standard of the Celtic performance. - Still looking out to hear about the new contract, aren't we? It's been mentioned, but I don't think it's been confirmed. The manager spoke about the changes. - That's the most changes I'll ever make. Normally I would make one change per line. You know, the bad line or a triangle in midfield, one change or a front line. So, if you look at my history as a coach field, you'll see that I wouldn't normally make so many. But that's the risk that you take. So, I was happy to take the risk. The players have worked really, really hard. They'll benefit from that, Alex, by you getting these first sort of minutes for an hour. Austin trusted getting 90 minutes. Stephen Wills getting game time, Tony coming in and playing. Louis Palmer getting some game time. The other guys as well. So, yeah, you always went up, but it worked out well for us in the end. Certainly did. Gregory's on asking. He wants to see Happy Birthday to Mardo McCloud. So, big day for Mardo, a Celtic great, and also Borussia Dortmund. So, congratulations, Mardo. What, with him for a while in the radio as well? And join you in seeing him around Celtic Park. - I love Mardo. Lovely family as well. A legend, what a wonderful player. And I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the trip. - Yeah. - Over to Dortmund. I'd love to see him go, you know, because he obviously enjoyed his time over there. So, maybe the team might take him on the plane with him. - He's having a... - Or a few screamers over the years, join a bit like your goal at Anfield. And, but that is amazing, isn't it? Gregory's also saying, should Celtic go for it now against Dortmund, given that they lost five-one to Stuttgart, at Stuttgart. - I think, I mean, going over to Germany, I think they're playing well. They'll go and they'll play their usual formation, usual style play. They'll have to defend well. - I don't think you think of the Bratzlava, gold, they give away, sloppy, slashing your food. Champions League level and no Bratzlava took a doing that. I think they're much better than people up here are giving them credit for you. It's impossible to come through the qualifiers, Champions League, into the group stage, without being a decent team. - Yeah, I think you said they can go to Dortmund after a great win. You know, people can see, as you said, Stephen said, people can see him by Bratzlava, but now you're on the board, you know, selling, I've got three points. They've made a great start to the group. But for me, it'll be a different proposition. Going away from home to play against Dortmund. If Celtic would to get anything, then you're almost looking at it like, well, Celtic are up there here now. I think they've been in terms of the recruitment and the plays they've brought in. They've brought in. So, for me, if Celtic can go and get anything, then I think they'd be seen as a team that could really, really push to get out to the group. If they go and take a thumping, then you know what's going to come. Everybody will be saying, well, anybody can beat Bratzlava, worst team in the group, blah, blah, blah. They've got to make sure that doesn't happen. As Stephen said, they've got to defend well. Stay in the game, because over the years, some games I've been doing, they've conceded very early in the game. Gives you opposition a really good lift early on, lifts the away crowd. So, for me, stay in the game, take your opportunities, and you have to defend all in sync altogether, and then hopefully they can pick up something. Happy birthday, Muddo, 66 today. And what a career. Not just Celtic and Brussia Dortmund, but also Dombartan where he started out. Hebs as well. He won the Cup with Hibsdon. He had played it in Barton, Partic Thistle, and also he was assistant to Wim Jansen. And, of course, Celtic won the League under Wim Jansen. And that one year that he was here in Glasgow. 08, 08, 17, 17, 700, huge weekend of football coming up, and European football for Rangers, they'll set out heading for Sweden tomorrow. - This is the Go Radio Football Show. Listen anytime, whatever you get, your podcasts. - Let's go, let's go. - This time tomorrow night, we'll be here with Barry Ferguson and Peter Grant. Last night was Andy Walker and Craig Moore, who won top four. So too, this big John tonight and Stephen, as well as Stephen again, John Hartson. And we're looking back and looking forward to what's coming up during the week. Going to behave, Dave. That was the headline today in one of the papers. That was John Gilligan, the interim chairman of Rangers. Speaking about Dave King, saying, Dave, you're not bringing. In fact, this is what he said about Dave King's comments. - Well, Dave's our major. He's our shareholder, and we can say, whatever they want you to say, my view is that it's a bit unrealistic because, I mean, Dave's our real business mind, and also shareholders and what? And he's a 15% shareholder. Our directors are 10, 12, 13% shareholders. It's unrealistic, you know? Well, again, it's a bit unrealistic because EGM's are invariably called by people who wish to change something. So the current board don't wish to change. So why would we call an EGM? There is fresh investment coming into the club, but in fairness, Dave's talking about fresh investment, but he doesn't want to invest. So I'm not quite sure where the investment's going to come from. - Yeah, no GGM extraordinary general meeting, but will there be new investment? And John Gilligan said that there will be, but they're not looking for any one owner to come in. He was asked about the manager. What does he feel about Phillip Tlamal? - I'm very impressed with the manager. I've met him to be a bit socially, but not properly. We had quite a long talk. Myself and George Latham. And very impressive. The long and short of it is, I don't talk about it football itself, much as I want to. The manager's in charge. We're here to operate the business. The manager's supported to operate the training academy with the football club. So either things, we'll never interfere in that. The one thing about it, you guys, as the manager's been kind of put forward to the spokesperson for the club, which is being wound up, kind of undue pressure at times, 'cause it's an area the business that it's known as. And hopefully I'll pick up some of that with someone else, but the manager is a manager, very impressive. - John undoubtedly, that was a big win for Rangers. We can't do that winning the league as well. They needed it big time. And tomorrow, some Rangers fans think they should concentrate on the league and not worry too much about Europe. But I guess when you play for the big two, it's every game, isn't it? - That's ridiculous, Paul. You've got to concentrate on both. You know, you're going away from home. You play in the eyebrows. The record eyebrows is very, very good in the Europa League. And you can't just concentrate on one competition. You know, he's, if the player's a fit and he's got great games like "Manny Nighted" and "Malmore" things like this coming up. You're obviously going to want your strongest team out there naturally. So, no, I don't agree with that. Concentrate on one trophy. Rangers are a big club. The fans want them to try and be as competitive as they can. And all the competitions there. So I just don't agree with the fact that you can only concentrate on the league. - John Gilligan spoke about the gap with Celtic, which Graham Sunnis, Rangers legend said, he didn't think there was that much in it. We all heard the clip a few weeks ago after the Celtic game. John Gilligan, and some chairman was asked about the golf between the two. - And history tells you that happens sometimes. We're ahead, sometimes, Celtic are ahead in a moment. We're chasing. There are no argument there. Why would I? I'm not stupid enough to say. Otherwise, we keep chasing. We'll be there. Well, player trading is the biggest success and qualification for the Champions League. It's going to count 22. You know, player trading gets you income, Champions League gets you income, and you're filled to get it. It's difficult because it's got these footballs level that support TV points or chip executives. You just can't compare it to England. So, it's always a challenge, of course it is, but it's all about squad and bringing in players and winning their matches and moving forward. - And he was asked the key question about CEO. So, there's no permanent chairman at the moment, John Bennett, off through illness, and we wish John all the best. What qualities are they looking for in the new chief executive? Of course, James Bizgrove left what now, four months ago. It's an important position. - They need to have a strong business, acumen, knowledge, experience. They need to have run businesses for their pressure and they need to deliver. It can't really be a comfortable business because the stress and the pressure have been CEO of the football club's payback. They need to have a great communication. They need to be a good communicator and get into people. They need to have a tremendous work ethic because it goes without saying that it's unbelievable, difficult, it really has. And last, they need to be a good person. Some of the decent people are like decent people. - John, you need a strong CEO? - Yeah, of course you do. You need a strong chief executive. You know, 'cause the chief executive role at the club is to be watertight with the chairman, watertight with the manager and the rest of the board. So he just said that he needs to be a nice person. He needs to be somebody that, you know, that's good in the role, knows exactly what his job is. And it might just take Rangers a little bit of time to find the right person because it's a very, very important role. The one that Rangers can't no longer get these type of big decisions wrong. - He or she, of course, Karen Brady famously came in, did a great job at Birmingham City under the goals and solvents and then went to West Ham for a long, long time where I think she's chair of the board. As a player, Stephen, I don't suppose you take too much notice of what's going on in the boardroom. - Not really, but he always, I think he always want one man that's running, I mean, almost like a big boss. I always think, obviously the manager's first and foremost that a player's boss, but he quite like as a club, there's someone at the top really driving the whole thing along. Rangers the last few years, there's always been, it feels like, almost they're all in the same level and they'll do really takes charge of it. So, I mean, I know if time is, you get the right man, if times when it takes to get the right man of women, as you say, then take the time, but I think they can't be wasting too many more approaching January and I know it's not gonna do them. Lots of business in January, but they need to start getting these transfer windows, right? - I just think he has to ask you that about the chairman of the club, your grandfather, Jack, of course, was a chairman at Celtic. What about the manager himself, back at Ibrokes? And he said, yeah, they missed it being at their home. - You cannot describe that. Yeah, I said it this week, it felt like 10 years and it's, that feeling I had. So, we've been playing like two, three months, only away games. So, that's really, really difficult as a team. So, we were super happy to be back and I'm happy also that the players could give this performance also, because we wanted to give the fans something special. But, of course, we should have scored maybe six or seven today and to be more clinical in that way. Yeah, we need to keep on working on that. We just founds what you're thinking ahead of the game, which is Thursday night against Malmo. Brendan Rodgers spoke after the Celtic, went 5-2 against Volker. Can he say, hey, this was a really tough game? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I said that to John. Afterwards, and I'll tell him again, I think that you can see the confidence that they have from last season, getting promoted and coming into this season, where they've won 5 out of 5 and playing well, so they trust their ability and they've got some players with a good profile and key areas, the good wingers that are fast, they get technicians in the midfield that can take the ball, the goalkeeper wants to build the game, so they come through the phases as well. Under two goals, the first goal, normally our line would be up and we'd be connected, but just fraction deeper allowed this striker to get his shot and it was a really good finish. And even the second goal, just before half time, young guy finishes it well, we best off in the far corner and they end up crossing the ball then and young guy finishes it really well. So, and so I said, half time, we got work to do. We got work to do, but I've got a real confidence in this group of players that they have that mentality and resilience that when they are suffering in a game, they can pull themselves through and by the end, we were very good. - John, the toughest game they've had so far this season? - Yeah, possibly, especially going down at home in a big quarter final cup competition, but you have to give credit the four quick and that's exactly what Brendan Rodgers has done there. If he comes out and says, "We were great, we were that." There would have been a few worried supporters, some three minutes gone still too and I wasn't worried 'cause like Brendan, I always believe that certainly scored late goals. You know, they've always scored late goals in both halves. The amount of times we scored in the 45th, 46, 91st, you know, just literally go to the end, this never-say-die attitude, you know, just keep plowing on the pressure on the opposition. So I was very confident that Salik would come back in the game, but credit to Falkirk sometimes, you know, when a team in a league beneath you comes and plays well, you know, give them all the credit in the world 'cause Salik Park isn't an easy place to come, you know, to four teams, especially teams like Falkirk, or not at that level every single week. - They were third-tier just last year. What do you think, Steven? The Salik fans are loving it 'cause we're saying he said toughest games so far and obviously they've played in Champions League and they played Rangers three and a half weeks ago. - Yeah, I mean, in this city, you make that sort of comment, it's immediately, oh, they've played Rangers, it's a dig at Rangers. I didn't really take it like that. I mean, Salik haven't been behind this season. They went behind twice and it's Sunday. It's a competition they went out early in last year. I think they had to suffer as a team, as a club, watching teams compete for a trophy they've dominated over the last decade. And there was pressure. I mean, I know John said he wasn't worried. There was a VAR check for the second goal and you could tear the relief amongst the celebration at the second goal. And once they get the second goal, I mean, they go after the call from the kickoff and say what it was absolutely, it was like when the Champions League goals went in and the third one went in. - What day for Ross McKeever and Finn Yates? And I see Finn Yates is saying, John Maglin, we have to handcuff him to keep him there. Could he maybe go? I mean, I don't know. Hearts has been mentioned. What was it, St. Johnson? - You know, when I left in the summer, I remember speaking to a few of the guys we went away at the end of the season. And then you said love John Maglin before he retires. I mean, he's I think he's 62 now. He's not going to do it for the last 20 years, but before I'd love him to have a team in the Premier League to bring that brand of football to the Premier League. I think it'd be a really exciting thing for the league. And I hope it's with Volkuk. I mean, I'm not sure about the rules that whether the financial is a club can afford to change from a stuff to grass, which would make it unlikely to get a Volkuk. Obviously, we've still got a chance to win in the league, but yeah, I'd love to see him. I think he's a really top coach and I think he can do it in the Premier League. - Okay, news is coming next. Then we're back with John Hartson, Stephen again. This is the Go Radio Football Show. Listen live weeknights from five on goal. - Let's go. - Listen anytime, whatever you get, your podcasts. Call, oh wait, oh wait, 17, 17, 700. - Let's go, go, go, go. - We'll get the top two, John Hartson. He's just throwing some shade. I nearly said that. No, good, better banter. During the news there and Stephen again as well. Listen, there's a bit of a chat going on about Arsenal. You know, a few people have been on. Listen, we care mainly about Scottish Football, but Michel Arteta, as we know, former Rangers player. And he was off against Pep Guardiola, his old mentor, but a lot of people got on about the dark arts, John, but what do you feel? Are they going to win the title now? - Well, they'll be in the mix one. They're still in things city. - I think so, yeah. - Very, very strong, yeah. I remember that was with Oak de Bruyne the other night, they didn't play Ford and from the start. So you tell me, your Sam Aladeis would have done that, if people would have been raving about him. Couldn't be because Arsenal, they were down to 10 men, right? They're two one up, and they've put a back four and five in front, and they've limited Manchester to, you know, to hardly any shots in the second half. And so you get, if Arsenal would have pulled that off, it would be a totally different perception of them. It would have been brilliant defending, brilliant win. They just held the league winners last season, because he's got a goal back. Everybody's two now, and Arsenal, but for me, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. You can't go to a tack city with 10 men, you've got to be five. - Okay, Jimmy started it there, so we'll finish it at that point. I'm Liverpool anyway, I like Liverpool. And Martin Sixmouth, brother-in-law, birthday today, Martin, of course, great journalist, writer, author, and it's his birthday. So happy birthday, Martin, listening in Cheshire, and Gillian, who is her birthday today as well. Congratulations, so I did Simon Jordan as well today. - Yeah, I know we're mainly Scottish football, but I know everyone watches English football up here. What I do think is, all of a sudden, we get a real rivalry between Man City and Arsenal. It's always felt a bit soft with a tetan, god-dweller being friends, and it always felt like the Man City, Liverpool, thing was still bubbling away in the background, but some good scenes in the end of the game, obviously, Halland, throwing a ball off cabaret, it was not something you see, yeah. - It was kind of funny, wasn't it, in a way, or? - It's not, I don't think it's great, but it's brilliant to watch. - Yeah, exactly, but from a football point of view, it's unsporting. - Yeah, you've got to put in the best. - I think we have to lose it for the split second. That's passion, that's anger, that's wanting to win. - This weekend, they all went to win. I'll tell you what's happening, Saturday, Dundee against Aberdeen, Hartz against Ross County, Comarnock against Undeunated, really good game there at Rugby Park. Motherball against St. Marin, again, a Western Scotland derby, and St. Johnson Celtic at 5.45, that must be on Premier Sports. Don't start me on them, trying to get the subscription renewed, not easy, I've been trying, but anyway. And on Sunday, Rangers against Hips, that's the big Sky game at 12 Nunes, that's a huge game there as well. What you're thinking, Motherball fans, you must be happy with the way things are going. St. Marin fans as well, the last couple of weeks, Stephen Robinson. Could he be in the frame? Names that have been mentioned, a few people have been on, saying who do we think is going to get the Hartz job, and maybe St. Johnson as well, but Hartz, yeah, the name of Stephen Robinson has come up, Derek McKinnis as well. Would Derek McKinnis go from Comarnock to Hartz? I wonder, I'm not sure. - I couldn't see him leaving Comarnock, obviously he's got, he's got Broadway owners at Comarnock, they've let him build something pretty special. I know they've not started the league season, like they want to, I know the league losing the cup game, following the European game wasn't ideal for them, in terms of how competitive they want to be in the cups, but he's in full control of matters that come on, I think they're a good side, and I think they'll be back in the top six season. - Scott Brown is his name coming into the frame for St. Johnson and John. For you, what do you think? Where do you go from here? Joint top of the table, but I know they've got two games, four games in hand. Scott Brown's made a good start though, hasn't he? Could he head to Perth? - Well, I don't know, you know, it's for me to answer that question. Listen, obviously A United Championship, St. Johnson and in the premiership, it would be a step up for Scott. Well, when you got to remember as well, Scott was out of a job at Fleetwood, and then obviously gave him the opportunity to get his back in the game. Yeah, A, getting a good manager, good character, and then Scott's taking the job. So for me, Scott might very well feel he's got a job to do at A, and he wants to really, really push on. The top of the league, or they got pegged back on Saturday, they still drew, but the top of the league, I'm a really good season, and all of a sudden he might think, well, I'm happy here, I'm enjoying my job, I'm enjoying working with these players, I've got a great chairman, and he might think like that. On the other hand, he might just think, well, do you know what? It's a bigger challenge to manage in the premiership, St. Johnson and I'm really started, well, I'll do that. So I'm just some eyes in the two ways he could go, really. I think Scott Bremer takes in Johnson's job. Do you think he would? Yeah, I do. I think he's, I think he's had a massive blow over the weekend with losing hands on doubts when one of his main strikers took a ligament injury, really sad for him, sad for A United, it was a big part of why I thought he'd be contenders in terms of that partnership up front with George Oakley. And I think he wants to manage his highs, I think he's really ambitious, I like the way he's going about it, going out to Fleetwood, go interior United, I think if that job comes up to managing a prem alleviate, then I think he'll take on the challenge. Alex has been on, who's a folk at fans, says I don't want our manager to go, full praise to him, but why is he not mentioned for more jobs in the top league? Steven, you know him so well, Yuri's camped. I can only think it's perception. I think the way he is is an older man, but this is a manager that reinvented himself, working with Brendan Rogers. I mean, the job, he's done it. From playing against ref, I signed for folk at the big things from playing against his ref team. They played that style of football, they showed at Southie Park for a ref, all the time, such a hard game, there was so much going on, it was, even when we watched the game Sunday, it was like a European game, almost at times, obviously, this play isn't that folk, he's got playing well above that. Station playing a lot of confidence, have got a lot on the momentum, but I just feel sometimes, I mean, if Joe McGlynn had came over from Spain and he got the right ref job, he did as well as he did at ref, he got the folk at job, and obviously went an invincible season, he's carried on at the league above, five one some five, beaten two Premier League clubs, taking out it to the wire. If he was Spanish and he'd worked at Real Madrid under 12s and he's history, he'd be linked with all sorts of jobs. It's just the perception problem I've got in this country. Plan McGlynn, change it. It's funny, John, isn't it in football? Sometimes, you know, perception, maybe not just in football, in business, maybe in life. - Well, John is well, the brilliant season, obviously, last year. And it all depends as well, where he feels he can go, the shoe and the championship with Falkook. If he feels that he can do it again, and I think he will come up for certain jobs, it's just where he feels, he can't take Falkook any further, in terms of all well, he went last season, and then he might just, if he gets the opportunity, he might just think that way. Again, though, if you're working with a really good chairman, and financially, you're getting back, and you're working with a really, really good group of players, that bond and that camaraderie that you had with them last season, and really, really winning the league comfortably, then sometimes, managers will stay. It's not all going and chasing the money and chasing the big leagues all the time. You know, John McGlynn looks as if he's really enjoying his job at Falkook, as well, and sometimes, you've got to look at it that way. And could go back-to-back promotions? Yeah, that is, I think he loves it, he loves the players, I know he, the players love working with them, but there is financial restraints at Falkook, it is real, I mean, they don't fully own the stadium. That's right, it's a good unity, isn't it? It's a fan-owned club, I mean, they've really asked the fans to go to the well all the time, even in the last season, everyone, but anyone that did a speech thank the fans, because financially, they absolutely, they're deep for that football club, but they probably need that and investors to come in, to take the club to the next level. A few other things in the go today, Philip Clemong, his name's been mentioned for the vacant ander-like job, because of his modern attacking football at Rangers. That's on the wires, just now, there's nothing concrete. Behind it, of course, he's won three titles in Belgium. Janice Hadji, there's somebody we haven't mentioned for a couple of weeks, he scored two gold Rangers, we're playing the beat team against Huddersfield. He scored as Rangers, came back from behind to win. Join Janice Hadji, we just haven't seen him for such a long time, we know that apparently his wages go up if he plays another game, but when Rangers got into Europe just now, and every point means quite a lot of money, not the same as the Champions League, but Janice Hadji, do you think, we'll see him back in the blue the first day? Don't look like this, because he's one of Rangers best players. If you look at the group they've got now, then he would come under one of the best players if he was playing. Clearly, there's an issue, I don't even know whether it's an issue between the manager and the player. You might be right in terms of if he plays more games, then you have to pay more money for him, but I don't know how that deal was sanctioned in terms of payments and the other. But for the life of me, he's a really, really good player, and I think Rangers need him now. But obviously, I think it's an off the field thing. It's a horrendous situation. It's one, I mean, I went through, I've watched friends go through it, I'm sure Joan has, it's stopped something that happens in football. It's not in this Hadji's fault that Rangers gave him this deal within that incentive, the incentive I'm sure was. During good faith that we play a certain amount of games for Rangers do well and be rewarded with a new contract. Rangers are paying Rangers who are watching their money closely, I had her paying a fortune to guy to play in the B team, so nobody is gaining from it and you hope it's resolved one way or the other and he can kick on with his career in January. - Go Radio Football Show back on the lines, O8, O8, 17, 17, 700. Remember, if you missed any of the program, any of them, go to where you got your podcasts. So subscribe or follow us more and more people are doing. Here's Dave on the line of Celtic Fan in the North in Tharzo. Good evening, Dave. - Even at both, Stephen. - Hi, Dave. - Good thanks, yeah, loving the dream with these two. So what about you? - Oh, yeah. Yeah, fine, fine, sorry. So there's a lot of sunshine in there. - Excellent. - I want to go ahead and talk to some TV times there, but if you don't mind, just before we do that, try to see what I'm thinking with this. That's Mon City Arsenal game. - Yeah. - There's nothing in the rules of football. See, you must play all of it, it's actually a football. - Yeah. - The idea of the game is to beat the open system. You know, I think it's a bit so great. It's the Mon City to be honest. - Okay, and joiners beaming and agrees, Stephen. I mean, yeah, we don't want to say too much of it, but you're right. So it's not against the rules. What's over? Agreed. What are you thinking about your team? - Well, yeah, you were talking about TV times. - Yeah. - We're in a game in the next few weeks. So I think we're going to go against Labs. And it's kicking off at quarter to seven and eight. I mean, you're just getting to that. You're listening to TV times now. - Yeah, it's not good for the fans. Is this at Easter Road? - I'm not, if you want to be honest, Paul. - Right, okay. Well, we'll check it here so we know what we're saying. Look, Telly pays the money. It's nothing like the money in England. It's just no comparison. I know it's such a shame. - Is that honest? - Is that honest? - We'll have to check and see. He's not sure, but we will. - No, is that honest? - No, is that honest? Saturday. Must be honest. - Yeah, that is going to be good. - Okay. Right, we'll check it and then make sure. It's a point though, the fans, Stephen, were at the mercy of the TV times. And if we didn't have the TV money, then the game would be that bit, well, quite a bit poorer. - Yeah, I mean, as a player, I mean, I can only speak, some of these guys call McGregor that don't have days off. They just play every three days. Some people prefer playing at night, but yeah, I mean, you have to strike the balance, right? To keep the TV companies happy because they finance the game, but also appreciate that it's fans travel from Dave. I'm sure you're traveling from Thuzzo to games. The travel's not as easy as for the fans coming from Glasgow. So it's not an easy situation for the clubs to manage and you can only try and there's SLOs. There's good SLOs at clubs now that they can try and communicate and-- - That the liaison officers-- - And keep out of all the parties. Yeah, happy. - It's really difficult. - Yeah. - I'd like to speak against the slumber, that slumber. So they get two million for running. - Yep. - I think it's either quarter mile, 300,000 per goal, but it's not up to three and a half million. That's before they get their gate money in the post-fertility and all that stuff as well. - That's what we get for running the league on the 36th of the games. - Yeah, they get 1.75 million pounds. Is it two million euros, you're right. And that's it. I don't think it's per goal game. - Yeah, not for goal, no, not just for winning the game. - Which is huge money. I mean, that's almost a prize money for winning the league. So, obviously, that was a big winful for them and so important for the club to take advantage of the financial incentives on offer. - I'll tell you, Celtic or Rangers can't afford not to be in the Champions League. It does show you, John, the difference. - Well, John Gilligan touched on it, didn't he? - Yeah. - Speaking about to run the businesses, he's talking about his own club. You have to sell players and you have to get into the Champions League. Obviously, the two horse race last year, they were so tight and one of the big things was getting the Champions League money. So, to get over the line, they then go into sell players like Matt O'Reilly. And I think that's what John Gilligan's touching on. - Oh, the playoffs won't it? That's really causing Rangers this season, isn't it? It's just, you know, they get a second bite at it and then they can't deliver, you know, in the Champions League playoffs. So, listen, it is what it is. I think Rangers are going to still make, you know, a lot of money with these, with these eight games. They've got, you know, the league might not be as much, but they have to, you know, you know, work with the purse strings. You know, we've got Haggie's issue. They've let a lot of good players go on big money out of contract, you know, things like this. So, they have to go with what they've got now and use, give, come on, the money that they've got. They can't do anything more than that. - Dave, we want to ask you about your team's sell team. Before that, let's see what the manager said after the win at the weekend. - Yeah, yeah, that's a full perk, we're excellent. I was expecting it to be fair, which is why we try to freshen the team up because they get good energy and move the ball well, so they work you. So, yeah, but it was a little bit disconnected for the first 60 minutes. And that's on me, it's not on the players. When you make eight changes like that, then I wanted to get some players in, and playing in the stadium, and getting the first sort of minutes of this season, playing in with the team. In some moments, we looked good, and in other moments, just that little bit of hesitancy, and that comes from just not playing so much. But we knew we always had the bench to pull on, if we needed it, especially in that last 30 minutes, where Volcro puts so much into the game, and then the energy can maybe just start to get sucked up. But we can then put some speed and tempo and rhythm into the game, and by the end, we were very good. So, but not a huge credit to John, his players and his staff, because I had a real joy analysing them, and seeing how they play, and seeing how they commit to attacking football. And, yeah, I really wish, and hope that they can go on and get promoted, because they play a fantastic style. Dave at Cameron Carter-Vickers, injured, didn't play at the weekend. How worried are you about him, and are you happy? Would it be trusty for you who'd play at the weekend, and maybe endormant? - Yeah, I think if you asked it in any place, I'm going in my carbon and carbon record, obviously, but that's the thing. I mean, Greg, it ain't a goal ever if anyone is in the summer. Maybe it's one or two players in my state, or nobody don't know about it, but he certainly said that we had been needed to do it, and I'll be honest, Paul, I'm a bit like Joy. I don't really worry if we go behind in that game, and this season, we're going to have to pick up and go on. But, I'm interested to see how that'll be. The game goes to percite and play there, because obviously they're players. - Yeah, how are you feeling about the Cup semi-final? It's a while away, beginning of November, but that's a really good game, isn't it? - Yeah, but I have a signal of drop points, but I do, I mean, drop points, which you've got to do. - Well, it was an epic semi-final in the Scottish Cup last year. - Absolute roller coaster, I think everyone looked exhausted by the end, and I think both teams haven't proved since then, so if we have anything, any semi-final like that one, then we're in for a treat. - James Force changed it for Celtic, didn't he? Maybe kept him in the Cup, would that be fair? - I think it's always a reminder of how tough it is to win cups. Even at the weekend, Celtic had to dig deep, two on down with half an hour to go. I don't care who you're playing against, how confident anyone was. You're only one deflected go away from being three one down, in a cup tie, so they had to dig deep, they had to dig deep last year against Aberdeen, and it's why obviously Adam I dig, it's his last when it goes, where it's about winning cups. - Dave, thanks for your call. I think you're maybe thinking about, it's 545 this weekend with St. Johnson, so that's maybe the game we've checked. The Hibbs game December the 7th is 3pm. Cheers, Dave, thanks very much for your call, 08, 08, 17, 17, 700, we're moving forward, looking forward to the weekend, quite a few fans and a lot of fans coming on saying, how well can they do their season? Can they take Rangers in the Cup semi-final? That'll be a tough game, they'll both be. And you mentioned there the Aberdeen Celtic game, that was a game that Celtic were winning, and then just right at the end of 90 minutes, then the same at the end of the 120 minutes, and that was almost going, well, all the way, wasn't it, to their penalties. - Cup football, John, you know better than anyone. - Yeah, yeah, you got to see it out, Paul. You can't just go in front and then look to hold on, it's very difficult seeing games out, because when you go in front, there's a tendency to drop, I think, and all of a sudden, rely on the lead that you've got, rather than maybe going for an extra goal and killing the game off. But it's a tendency, a lot of teams do it, and then all of a sudden, then you get, you get sucker punched right there, the lead of the game, like we saw last season in the semi-final against Aberdeen. - Lame's been on, saying John, Adamidah, saying in the papers today, his rivalry with Thorahashi, with Kayogo up front, it's bringing out the best and the pair of them. So, what would you say? - I totally agree with that. You know, I totally agree with that. Adamidah, can't just come up to Celtic for nine million and say, well, I'm going to sit back, and I'm going to watch my teammate, Kayogo, get all applaud it, score all the goals, be number one striker. He's saying the exact things that I would be saying. I want your place. I want to be number one striker. And to do that, he has to produce in training. He's got two goals of the weekend. Most of the time when he comes on or when he starts, he has to impress the manager. I believe Kayogo is in a different class personally, but Adamidah is being bought for goals on a well he did last season in the last 20 games. And he's at selling the two or three year contract, whatever he's got, he will get time. But for me, he is saying that, I'm not going to sit and watch this, this Kayogo, you know, play every single week. I want to play. And that's exactly the same as I'd be thinking. Stephen, what do you make of the two of them going for the striking position? Yeah, well, I mean, Kay will play. I think in all the big games, what, has a luxury of Adamidah's he'll play. Even if he's not playing, he'll play 30 minutes, 25, 30 minutes. Every game he'll come on for for Kayogo. The one I mean, think Kayogo's looked really sharp. The one that he's missing is probably the goals. Only two is so far this season. Adamid obviously gets two at the weekend. Adamidah's, Adamidah's an interesting one, because he's still wearing, he's still such a young lad, obviously a lot of money. He's still got a lot of work to do between him. I think Brendan Rogers will coach him. I think he'll improve his game. He looked a bit off the pace first half. There's a couple of times where there's good balls in behind, and he almost was running wide, and then he gets his goal, brilliant play out to the box, really clever. I mean, that's Celtic's goal, isn't it? The one they flash across. He's in a really good position. He taps it and he gets two, two. And then he's second goal. I mean, it's unplayable. It's like the strength, the power, the really good first touch, and then a really clever finish in between Nikki Hogar's legs. So, yeah, I mean, there's so much potential there, but also a lot of work still to do for him. And I think, as well, he has to be ready when he's called upon, because he can't be getting too disgruntled, because there could be injuries. Remember, last season, Kriyoga took a knock, and he came in on the back end of the season. He was terrific. He played his part in selling when in the championship, and also the Scottish Cup, when he scored the goal, 1-0. He scored a goal at Ibrox. He scored other big, big goals. His header at Motherworld was majestic, wasn't it? Either. So, he has to be ready, because he will definitely get opportunities to play. Jazz has been on saying, Stephen, John, what did you think of Mida so far this season? He loved what he did against Brattas Lava. It's the unbelievable. Real top level, I thought he was outstanding on the day again, and strangers, which he normally is. Brattas Lava, I mean, I think he could sense in the stadium how delighted everyone was for him. It got his goal, he puts so much in for the... I mean, there's occasions that night against Brattas. Lava where he's chasing back, and he's winning balls, and he's getting all right to go. And it's just a pace again to go. I mean, he goes again and he gets fed and goes right on the attack. I think he has... He's not absolutely perfect as a top player, but in every other sense, he's a top player. I think he's a top teammate. I think he's an unbelievable athlete, like nothing I've ever seen before, in terms of his recovery. Runs and then to go again and attacking sense. I think he's only 26. He's still got a lot of development improvement to make. I think he's a top top player. Yeah, and he's a manager's dream, isn't he? You know, he works his socks off. Besides that, I do think he's got better. I think his quality has got better. I think his feet are a lot better than what they were when he first came. He's always had pace, he can always run past people, and I think he's final ball as well as got better. He's adding goals to his game, so I think Brendan Rodgers spoke about him a few weeks ago, he's absolutely delighted with him. Yeah, he said the best presser, maybe in the world. He's maybe one of the only players in south accessory in probably in future. They'll cross the ball out the park and nobody cares. I think they just love him that much, so he's just straight OK, but he'll deliver for the next one. He's just a... they just love him. John, I love it. Enjoy. I'd have a problem if he's putting up behind the goals, all the way. Pat's on asking, "John, what was it like "that when you've got you and Sutton and Larsen?" So, I'm saying the surnames because you are held in such great affection. What's it like personally between the three of you? And I know that the manager, Martin Hill, accommodated you, usually you and Henry Larsen up front, Chris Sutton, a bit deeper. But what's it like? I don't mean them pairs just in general, because at the end of the day, you want to see Hartson on the team team? Yeah, well, you know, there was a lot of quality there. And what you find is with quality. If you make a run, you know they're going to play it and they're going to play it with, in front of you. It was almost perfect, you know. You could trust Henry to play you in with the right weight. And it happened more times than it happened anywhere else for other teams. You knew that Chris was going to win his headers. You knew that it's trust, you know, and it's trust in quality play as Paul as well. That's why we were so successful. But when you got Lenny rolling the ball in, she would stand petrove, making runs in behind. And, you know, Aaron Thompson rolled it up and down the left-hand side and the gap the other side. You felt strong at the back with the defenders that we had. So, listen, it was a real, it was a really fantastic time for me playing in that team. And of course, Henry and Chris, the three of us we all got on ever so well. And obviously, that's the biggest one for me, playing with real quality players. If you played it into them, you knew we'd get it back. You know, that's what happened more often than not. - Diplomatic answer, isn't it? - Wasn't it? Yeah. It was a birthday card the other day for Henry. He was 53, wasn't he? Just a few days ago or so. - I didn't even know. It was my birthday in April, I might get one of him. - And here's April, isn't it? - Yeah. - We've got time to get the whip round four. For John Harson, he's here. If you want to call him, good time to call. 08, 08, 17, 17, 700, or the Invincible. Stephen McGinn. - This is the good radio football show. Listen anytime, whatever you get, your podcasts. - Let's go, let's go home. - Well, a few of you coming on, giving suggestions for who's going to be the new manager of hearts. Neil Lennon's been mentioned. That's not going to happen as a former Hibs manager. But Neil Lennon, of course, came back from Romania just some weeks ago. He did well in the commentary the other night, on TNT. But your old teammate, Neil Lennon. - Yeah, I don't think that would bother him too much. - No. - No, not Neil, no. I think he's quite thick skinned. I think he's, if he felt he could do a good job. I know he did really well at the Hibs. He got them promoted, didn't he? From the championship, into the premiership. So, listen, I don't know if the Hibs fans would like it. But at the end of the day, if Neil was to be off of that job, I don't think his excuse would be because they manage hips. I think he would see it. If you don't know what exactly the way you would think. But I think he would see it as an opportunity to get back in the game in Scotland with a really good club. You know, and I don't think it would put him off. I've got to be honest with you. - That was Derek who was on asking about that, Stephen? Can you see it? - Yeah, no, no. I don't think he's anything to do with manager or ability. I think it's the fact he's managed, his safety can hubs, actually. - Can you mill her, did it? You played for Saltygan? - Yes, of course, yeah. Jim Duffy managed Hibs and he was assistant at Hartz as well, wasn't he? So, yeah, it can happen, but it doesn't happen too often. Of course it happened Liverpool and Everton, didn't it? With the Spaniard, yeah. - But he does. - But he does, yeah. - Yeah, he did. - But he's Chelsea. - But he doesn't like Chelsea. - But he doesn't like Chelsea, not much level loss Chelsea, Liverpool either. - Yeah. Barry's been on again saying, is Lewis Palmer in danger of becoming Celtic's version of Tod Cantwell? So, this must be to do with social media, Stephen. There's something cryptic. I'm not quite sure. - Yeah, I think, I mean, Lewis Palmer, it was a bad day for Lewis Palmer on Sunday. - Why? - He didn't play well. I think, I mean, there's a long time, there's been a worry that he can only go one way, he can only come back on that right foot. He might be at a yard, he had to pay short to play at the level of how it felt to play at. And as pecking odd as at football clubs, especially the big clubs, there is three main wingers, and then there is the next ones, your Palmas, your yangs. He felt as if from the game on Sunday that visibly yang, who made a decent impact when he came on, went ahead of Palma in the pecking order for the fourth choice, when can it say all day? - He doesn't make things happen enough for me. I think when he gets the ball, when the fallback is sort of coming towards him, a good winger for me, Paul, either gets a crossing, you've got to get a crossing, right? That's the least you've got to do, is for your strikers to go to attack the cross, or be more positive, and either get to the bike lane and smash it across the goal, or cut inside, which we've seen him doing regular, and scoring goals with that right foot if he starts on the left. For me, I'm watching him play and then go, go, go on, make something, I'm going to do it, and it just comes to nothing. So for me, as a winger, Palma, he doesn't do enough, he's just too wasteful when I watch him play. - There was an occasion in the first half, I think it was, and one of the great things about covering football, watching football and the big stadiums is almost a noise and anticipation, there was an occasion, Palma takes it, and he gets out his feet, and it's like the clouds just wanted me to shoot. Instead of shooting, he takes that extra touch, and it feels a bit like that, with his self-takes career, he's always just that yard to slow that extra touch, and yeah, I mean, there's a lot of problems in it. The game is a lot of negative noise about the game in this country, but one thing the coaches can do is they can work out another team, they can work out faults and teams, and one of the big messages when you play against Lewis Palma is just show him what he's left foot, show him down the line, because he would just try and get him back on his right foot, and I think fullbacks in this country have started the negates impact. - They get to know how you play. - Second season, and the self-takes transfer window has been so strong that-- - And so team inches are on the telly every couple of days, I mean, you almost know that the players as much as your own team. - Well, it's up to the player then. It's up to the player, if defenders try and figure out Lewis Palma, he's got to find a different way to make an impact in the team. You can't just say, well, defenders are figuring him out. Defenders could figure center fours up, and Rosa and the center four, do you try and do something different to go on top of the center back? So that's down to Lewis Palma to try something different. - Article today in the Courier, the Dundee Courier, saying that Tyran Lynch, who's guided Lauren in Northern Ireland to back, to back premiership titles over there, is a potential candidate for the St. Johnston job, along with Scott Brown, whom we mentioned earlier, and Peter Leavin, who did a really good job at Aberdeen as caretaker. So don't know much about him or anything. Stephen, have you come up against Tyran Lynch? - I've come up against Lauren. Tom Eray, who's a manager to come on, that we had to build first, to play at Lauren. They've obviously had heavy investment there. Lauren, I think they've got to dig into the group stages of the conference league. I think they've got group stage football, European. So obviously, with the investment, they've also been managed well. And with the success of Tom Eray, it's at Johnson. Obviously, I think he's a most famous manager when the Scottish Cup, obviously he's a name that even pretends to Tom Eray, maybe still speaks to directors. He's maybe someone that's been asked for a rhythmic recommendation, that one might come through Tom Eray. - Yep, Harry's on as well, saying he's a Rangers fan at Malmo. He's worried about them. And he's saying, look, their total spend is only half of the Rangers squad. Their biggest fee was for the former Celtic player, side hacks, a ban of it, who is out injured. So sometimes, because Philippe Climmall mentioned there, the size of the transfer pot that he has, he was talking about Scottish football. Well, it's the second biggest. It's only Celtic that's bigger. But joining European football, this isn't just Rangers. In some ways, in British football or Scottish football, we sometimes should do better. I mean, hearts have got good transfer budgets in general. The other team don't do that well when they get to Europe. No, they don't. And that can only be down to quality. You know, a lot of these foreign teams, they've got good technicians. I don't know whether it's a confidence thing. I don't know whether they can turn it on and be the same player when they go away or when they're at home. And it could be a number of things, Paul. And I think you're right. I think sometimes that you go up against an opposition and, you know, they've not spent as much money as you or this, that or the other. But it could be a number of things, Paul. And for me, it's hard to replicate the same performance at home. That's when you go away, I felt, 'cause of the crowd. And I always felt underdogs, maybe when you went away from home, you got a frustrate more than anything else. And as I said, you know, that we have in recent years and we, the likes of hearts, Kalmanic this season, a couple of good results. We're not quite enough to take them through. - Not enough. And then the following for, look at heart, for example, Kelly at a tough time in the league, as well as things turning for them. Harry was on earlier, so too, it was true. I'm just looking at all the socials coming in here, saying for Rangers, it's like a restart now back at iBrucks. People don't know enough yet about who could do it. Igammani, everyone was talking about him last week. The Rangers fans would love him to become a favorite the way Morales was four or five years ago. Stephen Igammani, looking forward to seeing more of him. - Yeah, I think, I mean, I think the Rangers fixture list over the next couple of months. I think this is going to be a true test of a lot of positive reviews, but Igammani, Connor Barren, Jeff Day. Very interesting to watch the progress. Pro-par is he going to step up over these next few games, because absolutely the Rangers fixtures get harder than coming up. Some of the teams come to iBrucks, obviously, and Sweden this week, but within the next seven days, hips come to iBrucks, and then Leon come to iBrucks. So the standard of the team, the players getting harder, and I think the early negativity that they've done the job the last couple of weeks, they've got wins back in the board, but it's the step up in quality. Can they produce it and can they go and keep winning games? - Connor Barren has been a find. Well, we knew about him at Aberdeen, John, but he said a really good start to his Rangers, because you're still pretty young. Yeah, still pretty young, and he's probably more not sure if he expected to come from Aberdeen and play the games that he's played. He might have been sort of slowly sort of nurtured his way in, but he's obviously, when he ever is played, he's not really let anybody down, and he looks a real good player, doesn't he? Probably still, I think he said prospect then, but how old is he? - 22, just last one. - 22, yeah. You want to be in the first team or 22? Yeah, I've got no time to be in reserves. You're not playing 22 at his average. You've got to get games under your belt. - How good is he going to be, Stephen? You've played up against him, what do you reckon? Connor Barren. - Yeah, well, I think it's been hard for him. I think he's done well, but I think he's come into midfield that's probably as weak as it's been in Rangers in a few years. I think ideally he's a type of sign-in they wanted to make off the back of the season. They got to the UFR Europa League final. We were adding the young players so that when the older players go out, then Connor Barren's been in the building and maybe played 20, 25 games a season as a Rangers player. I think he's came in at a time where he's probably going to have to play 50 or 60 games because they don't have like for like quality. But for a player to him, it's a big step up and he's handled it well. - Bishrami still the early days, a lot was expected. What was over 3 million pounds right at the end of the transfer window to what's say 25, 26 years old came from Siswolo. So it's still so early, I mean proper including that. I've not been impressed with proper. Bishrami, as I said to you, the tests are coming. I think there's a lot of big games coming up after the international break. They have Rugby Park, they have Pitodre in the month of October. So I think that they are the true tests of being a Rangers player. So off the back of European games to go to these places and dig out victories and performances. - And it's all going to be about wins and showing your quality and showing that you can go and play at this level. That's the only time that you, you know, you're going to be properly tested, you know, against the big, big sides. And I'm not just saying, in Europe, I'm talking when you play Aberdeen, you know, when you play Mother Well, all these sides, you're going to have to show their quality. They've trusted the recruitment, they've trusted the manager with obviously reducing the wage bill and letting some, you know, experienced players go. Now it's time to deliver, that's the players and the manager. And he's asking, is proper, better than Ben Davies? Well, we don't know yet, but we haven't seen anything more than we did from the former Liverpool, press North Endman, haven't we? - I mean, as I said, still early in his Rangers career, he was the captain of his club. His previous club at a good level, he's a streaming Philip Clement, knows I'm well and he's going to improve. But what I would say is I don't think he's as good as kind of going to. He's from what I've seen so far is not an improvement on last year's team, but as it's still so early in his Rangers career. - You don't know what you've got until it's gone. That happens sometimes. And maybe that would have been the case when James Evans had to cut the budget as well. It's not just, they had to reduce the wage bill, corner goal teams are a huge earner. That's not it, I'm not saying that they should have kept the holder corner goal team. Just saying year by year you judge self-ticking Rangers and are they a better side? I don't think they're a better side than they were last year. - This is the Go Radio football show. Listen anytime, whatever you get, your podcasts. - Let's go, let's go. - Tuesday night, Barry, we'll be here tomorrow night along with Peter, Barry Ferguson, Peter Grant. Who are the young Peter Grants coming through? John Hartson, Stephen McGinns, Barry Fergusons, not enough people. Another Alec is on, it's a different Alec saying, "What's happened to Bailey Rice at Rangers?" And Stephen, he was a player who had such great promise and still does, but what do you know about Bailey Rice? - Yeah, I mean what my point always is, is he much, as I mean, is there an absolute gap between him and a corner baron? Or I mean, is there an opportunity and you can put him in and he'll really step up and you don't have to go out and recruit a day or Monday? Or so, I mean, I think it's not just one club problem. I think it's a domestic game problem. The league is so competitive, I mean, I don't really judge managers and not taking chances because young players make mistakes. They make more mistakes than what you experience players. And it's such a league of fine, fine margins. I think the league, the authorities need to bring in a role that gives these young players a chance, gives them a light, something to aim for to try and get into the first teams. - And that was there before, wasn't it? But they scrapped it. - Yeah, I mean, it was the under-21 row. I know managers hated it, senior players hated it. I was a benefactor of it, I mean, it was, my challenge wasn't to be better than players that had played top level in England who were in the St. Mary's squad. My challenge was to be one of the best three young players. And that got me onto the bench. And then once you're on the bench, you're training me the first team, you're getting the odds of appearances and you get an opportunity. So, I'm a big fan probably because it benefited me, but even some sort of ruling where, even if there has to be a certain amount of young Scots on the bench and it doesn't need to just be under-21s, maybe under-23s. - Well, also, you were good enough. - Yeah. - Gonna be good enough. - Sure. - You can't just make these rules up and say, well, I think these have got to go in and they've got to give them chances, well, no, not really. - But if you're better than the players that are in now. - But, John, I wasn't better than getting, like, the senior midfielders missed out in the bench that were better than me at that point. So the, the same, like, if the manager's done an absolute free rein, he would have brought in the senior midfielder. Instead of me, the times I got my opportunity. So that's what made the rule, gave me that chance that almost I just had to be one of the best young players. And then once you get into the first-time environment, then you had to show your quality and get to their level. - Yeah. You've got to be the best of the younger ones. You're not going to be necessarily better than the midfielder who's maybe towards the end of his career. - I mean, I remember that the season that I made my debut, the manager had made signings in the summer, he'd brought in midfield. I remember brought in a guy called Richard Britton, who went on to do really well for Ross County, brought him in from Livingston, and I remember the amount of times that he would miss out in the bench, and I would be the midfielder, going in, if any injuries I would get on. But at that point, he was ahead of me in quality. And over time, you get to these guys level and stuff like that, but it definitely opened the door for me. - I always remember Syferi saying with us when he was on the show with Barry saying, when he was at Siltip John, he was one of the younger players. So he could be on the bench some days. And he said, you know, the Larsons, Harpsons, Sutton's came on, and Sutton went off. Goodness sake, not you and the squad. But it gave him a chance. - Well, he could play for Mother Well, I think Johnson every other week, but he went good enough to knock a lamb battle and out of the team. - Oh, sure. But young Scots players, if there's no route to getting into the first team. - Kieran Tianni's a brilliant example. Kieran Tianni wasn't one of the ones. Anybody talked about, he got into the reserve, I think Ronnie Dowell, you just put him in. And he absolutely kept going and was on to be sold for 25 million. So we create young players with talent, with attributes that can be coached and can be improved. We just have to find a way of getting them into teams. - 'Cause what's gonna happen? You know, if young people lose interest in football, there's no way through, then if it's all populated by people listening to us. - It's a national team suffering. - Of course, yeah. - So you gotta get these young players through and give them first team opportunities. - What were you saying? - Well, young players, yeah. Otherwise, there has to be something, John, 'cause there's no incentive for the clubs just now. - 'Cause they've got to be really good young players. - This is a financial player. - They're gonna be good. - Of course, I agree. - Yeah, I think we're all in agreement, but what we're saying is financially, I mean, the wages for Scottish clubs to compete with the National League in England is becoming very difficult. So there's only two ways of kind of matching that finance and it's either European qualification. - Bringing through your own players. - Or selling players, selling young players. So it's probably unsustainable at the minute to keep trying to compete with these players. Can we try and get more players in there and sell them on? Like, I mean, Lionel Miller's a special talent, but mother will root the rewards for giving them that chance that they've gave young Wilson as well, he's been great for them this season. So as many as we can just to get into the league for to help the clubs financially and the National team. - Sandy's on asking both of you. You first, Stephen, as a Scott, what about the goalkeeping position? Because I mean, at hearts, for example, Craig Gordon's having a tough time, but Zander Clark isn't featuring everyone. - It's a really strange situation. That's when you think of the two guys being mainstays in Scotland squads over the last five to 10 years and Craig Gordon's got the gloves at the minute. Be very interested to see what happens with the managerial change, who the new manager goes with. - Craig's Craig Gordon, I mean, still looks really fit, but he is a fair edge. So very interested to see who the manager's going to be and what he does with that team. One thing I do, I know it's a Glasgow show, but then you take a launch out on the close out of the goal. - Yeah, of course. - He was almost playing the midfield role. It's out of the park a couple of weeks ago, and I think that's a boost for any team in your playing against hearts. If he's far away as to go with that. - Two things there, John. On the striking one, launch out. - It was an interesting poll for me. Whether the team are delivering for him. A guy that's got 31 goals last season, or he isn't quite up the scratch as what he was last season. Maybe the fact that he hasn't got his move, maybe mentally struggling with that. And also, he's got to show the same desire and the same commitment when he's playing. There's what he showed last year. That's why he got all the goals. You can't just go out on the football pitches, go goals. You've got to do the same. You've got to make the same runs. You've got to peel off and pull away from defenders' shoulders, make runs in behind because he used to do that. So he needs to get back to what he did well last season. - We spoke hell in the show about Chris Sutton maybe dropping back. He's dropping back because he's accommodating John Hartston and Hint Larson. And there's not an absolute demand that Chris Sutton must get goals. Hartston really struggling for goals. Almost all the goals last year were either scored by Lon Shankland or created by Lon Shankland. Yeah, he's having a bit of a dry spell, but you don't push him further away from the goal, especially, I mean, he is doing that to accommodate Vargas. Who is this baby? He's very quick, but he doesn't look like he can score goals in a final third. - And did the goal keep in position? Is anyone coming through that can challenge? - No, I mean, it was a problem. We were aware of, going into it, the guys of a certain age, McGregor, Craig Gordon, David Marshall were all coming to the end of the careers. No, Craig Gordon's still going, but there wasn't really any of the else playing. So good guys like Robyn McCrory have made the decision to go out and play. Obviously, Liam Kelly swapped position from playing to getting into Rangers, so Robyn McCrory's taking that opportunity at command, can find himself in the squad. - Just two minutes remaining, guys. So the next big game is only 48 hours away. Mammo against Rangers in the Europa League. I turned him into just over two years ago. Rangers got all the way to the final. So John, what would you be looking for for what does success look like for Thursday night? - Well, whenever I go against Rangers, they seem to play really well and get the results, you know? So I'm going to say it'll be a difficult game. They'll have to play well, defend well. But I just think that if they do that, they might nick a point. - Because the record is remarkable, isn't it? - Yeah. - They defy the odds often. - Yeah, they do, and I've often come on year and said, well, and rightly so, that's just been my opinion. But I just think on Thursday, they might surprise the few people. Malmo might not be as good as what people are saying they are. And listen, you know, irrespective of the result, really, but if I was going to stick my neck out, I would say Rangers might get a point over there. - Stephen, as you pointed out last week, Rangers lost the last time to them, two won at home to Malmo. And it was Morellas who scored in 18 minutes. And the two goals for Malmo. Can you remember who it was? - Cholac. - Cholac indeed. So remember, and he was the top scorer. - I think Rangers run a better place at that point. I think they were better on side than they are now. I think they're going to have a really difficult night. And Thursday, I don't think they're playing that well still. I think they're digging out results, but I'm still not playing that. So I think I draw a better major. Successful Rangers, I think. - Will you be going to draw you? - Yep, okay. - No, I think Malmo won. - You think they're really going to win? Okay, guys, I hope you're wrong. Thank you so much. See you next week. Thank you, John. Thank you, Stephen. And to everyone who was on this evening, and tomorrow night we're back with Barry and Peter. Thanks so much. Thanks, everyone, coming up next to the news. And then it's Zoe tonight. - This is the Go Radio Football Show. Listen live weeknights from five on go. - Let's go.