Renegade Radio take over of The Buzz with Momma T. Franky Slawson and Screamin Sam stop by and talk about the origins of Renegade Radio.
The Buzz with Momma T
Episode 2.02 Renegade Radio Take Over
(music plays) (music plays) (music plays) (music plays) (music plays) (music plays) (music plays) (music plays) (music plays) (music plays) (music plays) - Everybody to the buzz of Mama T. Thank you for listening to our little ad there. And today we've got in, well, not in the studio, but you know what I'm saying. Oh, just kidding. I actually am. We do have a pre-recorded interview today. Welcome to season two, episode two of The Buzz with yours truly, Mama T. One of our guests was not able to make it at this on this day. So we pre-recorded the interview. This is our big invasion of Renegade radio because both my guests today happen to be my co-hosts on Renegade radio. They are the co-founders of Renegade radio. And the first, like I said, the first interview is pre-recorded. But before that, we're going to go ahead and give you a brief message from Grant For Express Source. I think. Today's episode is sponsored in part by Grant For Express Source. They're cutting edge local media broadcasting studio with captivating shows, on location, event coverage, and unparalleled advertising opportunities. Grant For Express Source has become a haven for podcasters like me seeking to bring their visions alive. If you're a podcaster looking for studio or platform or a local business seeking to advertise, go ahead and email Paul at local@gfbestsource.com. You can call him at 701-740-9337 or you can go to their website that's listed on your screen there, gfbestsource.com. Tell him, Mama T sent you. Buddy, to the buzz with Mama T. Thank you for listening to our little ad there. And today we've got, well, not in the studio, but you know what I mean? We've got Frankie Slausen. Hey. Who's the most, who's not a ghost? I'm the host of the most. He's the host of the most. You're the host of the most who's not a ghost. That's right. There we go. So, why don't you tell the audience, first of all, why you think you're on the show? Could be for various amount of reasons, I would think. It could either be because I co-host, Renegade Radio with you. Or it could be because you just find me very cool and you just, who is a cool person that you could have on the show. All right. The real reason is, a lot of Mama T is focused on local national and international musicians and music personalities, including people who are DJs and MCs. And producers and what have you. And now you get the answer I was looking for. Yeah, I know. I do that all along. You were just trying to be funny. I was just trying to see if I could make it last as all. It's all right. I know. I know the real reason why. And that said that we talked about that before. And because I did a little thing call or some AI music, but I, but I've also done some of the things that you talked about too, you know, because I used to DJ. I used to be in a radio announcer. I also was a master controller for Black Hills Fox TV in Rapid City. So if that doesn't count for anything, then I don't know what, you know. But then of course. Exactly. That's what I was trying to get out of here. There we go. Why don't you tell me about your family where you grew up? What was your upbringing like those people were people into media or broadcasting or anything like that? Well, I grew up. North, pretty much north of Minnesota, you know, northern Minnesota, a little town called Greenbush. I was born in Moorhead, but I was raised in Greenbush. And it's a long kind of story as far as how I got from Moorhead to Greenbush. But as far as like my family and everything goes. I mean, I grew up, you know, have mom and dad and, you know, well, I was, you know, adopted, you know, but I still have the same mother. Shouldn't it be worse? Oh, so you're, you're step that adopted you as you're okay. Yeah. Cause my real father, real father was kind of a jerk and he just kind of left my mom and be hanging when I was a baby. And, you know, it's just so much of a long story. But as far as my family in Greenbush goes, I have my step back. I have my step father, Larry, who I learned a lot about music from. Because while he was never a musician or a singer or anything like that or a radio announcer, he always loved music as far as like, you know, having collections of records and tapes and, you know, cassette tapes and CDs and he got me into it. Cause I was the only one in the family that really got into collecting. And I really liked what he was presenting. So he got me into that mom, Pam, she, she was different because of how she was raised. She, when it comes to collecting and whatever and hobbies and whatnot, she always found them exciting. But she was, you know, her passions were more just to help and take care of her family and raising my brother and my sister and myself. And, you know, just kind of had a normal childhood. I have a younger brother named Arthur. And I have a younger sister named Kayla. So I'm the oldest of the bunch and the best looking and then the, and the tool. Oh, that's for things. You know, you know, I got to give you some crap. Obviously not as much as I do on, on the Monday night show. But so you mentioned your, your dad got you into music. Was he in collections and stuff? Was he into any other media? Like, was he into like movies and TV shows and, and like cult classics as we do? Because we all know what you do is, is the podcast we do together. Ready to get radio is about pop culture. Yeah. My question, I guess, is, is how did you get into that? Yes, you were right about how I grew up. Like we were never like, we never went to conventions. We never went to, you know, we never met any celebrities or whatever, you know, things that people do now perform, you know, or some people anyway do. But my love for pop culture kind of came from, from my father. Because not only did he get me into music, but he also got me into like, you know, collecting and stuff and add, you know, a whole bunch of recorded VHS tapes. That's kind of how we kind of grew up. You know, we had like the three Stooges, you know, we'd watch the tape, that tape. We had the Buddy Holly story, the Bamba first movie. I ever knew as a kid that I got into was a movie called Walk Like a Man. From 1988. Oh, you got a cash, right? No. No. How we met Nell and Christopher Lloyd. Walk Like a Man. I'm sorry, I was thinking of something else. Can we delete that part? Yeah, no films here, right? So what actually got you, I mean, like you got, you love all this pop culture, the movies, the TV shows, the music itself. Cause that's a tracks vinyl. I mean, what, what made you decide that? Well, lack of a better term. I'll use one that I've used before. What made you believe you had a face radio? Well, I, I tell you what, you know, growing up once again with the love for music. My dad and I were loved. We lived listen to radio. You know, that was also our thing. And we listened to the local affiliates because that's just kind of, you know, what we, what was our entertainment, you know, but the biggest station that we always love to listen to was cool 100.3. And I was KSNR. And I was, you know, before the days of cat country and before they messed it up and, and turned into cat country. The day was an oldie station for the longest time. It was KSNR. It was 100.3 FM. We listened to Zippo in the morning. We listened to all the, the oldies. And, you know, growing up, you know, I, like when I started collecting music, that's when my, my broad or my horizons kind of changed as far as like what I liked and what that. But when we were listening to radio, we'd always listen to the same old hit songs, but it'd be like tough to fix the 60s. Yeah. And I, you know, growing up, I guess I wasn't really sick of that at that time. Because I was just, you know, it was just my dad was really the one in control of the music all the time. And, you know, I barely ever really touched his, his stereo or, or, you know, his equipment. You know, would that be like, would that be like touching the thermostat? Yeah, that actually be the thermostat joke there. Because, you know, I know that people get all kind of, you know, they talk about the thermostat. So, yeah, you, you have a good point about that. That's kind of what that would be. But see, my dad had a nice stereosis, like it, like, like the, what you would see. With all the little buttons. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But if you don't to have like the velcro door, you know, kind of, or the door that's like, it's like a plastic door, but then it's like velcro to shut open and shut that covering the covering the stereo, because he had a couple stereos. And the one that we don't know where from from two different generations doorways and then back in my day or beaded. Oh, okay. Well, most of the people that have stereo systems and even if they still have now, they used to make them so nice where, where you would get as fancy as you, you could and, and some would come with like a, like a nice door, like a, like a, I don't know, it's not like a friend stores like a, just like a lot of doors, you have to push on to let the magnets releasing. Yeah, and you've got everything. It just made it more fancier. And so I had a table on top. Yeah, a shelf underneath for your dual dual cassette deck, you know, and like you said, all the buttons and whatnot. And see, I love that. I love playing, you know, I mean, while I, as I got older, I started playing around with it, but as a little kid, you know, growing up, I always just never mess with his stuff because I just, you know, you didn't want to get your hand slapped. Yes, right. But dad, I always had a lot of music. Believe it or not, parents were actually allowed to do that back when we were kids. Yeah, beyond, beyond more than their control, I tell you. So what do you think the big, it's challenging. The young people, as far as getting the young people into media and broadcasting is. Well, because everybody wants to make money and nowadays they look at a radio announcer as a poor person, you know, because that's what all I've been told is like, oh, you make no money in this industry. Well, why not. You should. It's really fun. Well, yeah. I mean, the radio, all the radio, all the radio auditors, I know, have second chops. But back in the day, I don't think they needed second jobs. That's the problem with it today because all the stations that we know and love or, or did know or love are either gone, or they're all automated or automated most of the time when they're not being used. And back in the day, hell, even 20 years ago, you know, they were, I mean, what, I could go into the college at North and do a live show on a Friday night. And the college had no problem with the students being this do as long as they were doing what they needed to do at the station, at least for that part. We could be in there up until like 12 midnight, one o'clock in the morning, no problem, you know, to have to do a live show rather than do a prerecord. But now it's like they only lay, but do that no more. They're all like, I'm worried about security and stuff. And honestly, you know, I'm not going down, like what I was, if I was going to do it again. I'm not going down there to make terrorists and stuff and, and be a nuisance or whatever at this school. I'm there for a purpose to do my job as a volunteer or whatever, and, and present a good show. And it's just everything's changed. And I think nowadays, because you'll get people now, there's so many people out there that broadcast from their home that never had the training that I had, or never had it like Bob had or answering my next question. Okay, I was going to ask you how you think. So the last question I asked you, how do you think that all these different online platforms have affected the actual brick and mortar, live human being, call in shows and requests and all of that. I think the real thing about that is, is that you look at what people are doing now. And the one thing about it is that I like how a lot of people have took their own spin on how they, how they do their own media, and how they share how they share it with people, how they're able to do it. But I just, I just feel like, without that training, without that proper training that you should have, you know, like, I mean, I mean, now you can just learn from, from just watching other people, but I feel like you should still learn about it. Well, yeah, but I feel like you should still have that professional hands on experience. Yeah, the training, like, actually, actually go to college. Well, it's not your most college. I'm talking like just if you know somebody that's a DJ, or an outser that's even willing to spend some time to teach you to learn, even something like that would be fine. It's not just about going to but do it in school anymore. I'm just saying to learn it from a professional. Right. Hang out in the studio one day. Say what you think, give it a shot for a few minutes. Yes, give it a shot for a few minutes. I agree to an interview or a co host spot and see what you think of it because there's so many jobs now. There's like all these online platforms, they're getting paid. And I think they're getting paid more than the brick and mortar, mortar people. Absolutely. You are definitely right. And they're making way too much money and they're not showing the love up there. They're forgetting about the love of being a broadcaster. Like, the actual live music, the live people, or whatever they're doing, whatever format to do like, like, I'll give you an example, you know, for for how I've changed as a person when it comes to, like, just do it our podcast. You know, you know, okay, our podcast, you know, is starting to get noticed a little bit. And I'm happy about that, because the radio that plays every Monday night. Yes. I was trying to go for free. Sorry. I'm plugging. I'm plugging, I'm plugging and renegade radio on this one in a few minutes. So, okay, well, that's perfect. What I'm saying is that, you know, back in the day when I first started doing radio, my biggest goal was, you know, I want to be famous. I want to make money. And that's still my goal. And that's still my goal. But it's just that, you know, I don't have that big of an ego, where it's like, I've interviewed a lot of people. What we do stuff on renegade radio, I'm so happy that at least people are starting to know about it. Thanks to people sharing the videos and watch it when we're live, you know, for grand for express source for just, you know, believe it enough. And what we're doing, because we're all team, you know, that's what I believe why now they're, they're allowing you to have your show on there because they know that we got some talents and people around here. For for everybody who is just listening to the podcast on a platform, rather than watching a live version or replay. Renegade radio that we were talking about airs on Sundays at 7pm on grand for express source. That's not the live version. That is the replay. And then you'll get at 7pm on Tuesdays, you will get a replay of the buzz with Mama T from the previous Sunday. So, I do my show then Frankie does his show. And that night. Oh my God, here we go again. Oh, okay, I need some fact checkers. Fortunately, I have fact checkers and renegade radio Saturdays at 7pm. Yeah, I was going to say you said Sundays, I was just like, Oh, that sucks. That's not for the bad check and see, it's a great producer. Oh, of course he is. Thank you enough props. So, let's get to our next question. Okay. What are your favorite past signs and hobbies besides collecting music and watching movies. Oh, well, I mean, I'm being on the computer because I'm a computer nerd. You know, I, I don't know how to put computers together, but I know how to do software and that type of stuff because I, growing up, I would help my family when we got our first, you remember the old IBM computers back of the day. Oh, yeah. I think the generation previous to understand the whole concept of if you or me would come over the VCR would not be flashing 12 o'clock. But, but to answer your question about other hobbies, I mean, I like playing video games. I'm a big, I used to be a big PlayStation guy. I grew from that became an Xbox guy. You know, I know that's my sack of religious in the video game world, but hey, you know what, I just, I was curious for longest time and I was able to purchase a, one of the new Xbox is when they came out or a couple years after the pandemic and, and it just worked out. I liked it. And so I've had an Xbox ever since. And, you know, I like, I like all types of technical stuff. So that's why. So did you, did you ever go like the last little piggy and go, we, we, we, or just Xbox. Oh, never own a we, never own, never own the we are. Oh, yeah, I know what they are. I know what they are. I mean, I played them. And I play the Wii U and I've also done the switch and everything, but I've never owned that. It's not really a big Nintendo guy. I mean, I like my brothers and stuff, but like, you know, I don't know, I like games with good graphics because that's just that person. I'm not a perfectionist by any means, but sometimes little things bother me that should be where they should continuity issues. I like the whole reverse beer reversing, you know, I don't like that. Yeah. Yeah. So media, broadcasting, music, all that. You know, it's really hard to stay in that industry. And there's so many reasons why. Can you tell me about a time that you were ready to give up on podcasts or being in any kind of media job and how you are back now. Yeah, I can see. Yeah, I can answer that. I can give you a really good answer for that. And 2000 or 2021. I finally realized that my days at Pioneer 9 for one are just not how were they what they were anymore. And I don't think they ever were going to get any better. I was doing like I used to do shows for them, like late at night, or even earlier in the day, where people would listen and even late at night on a weekend when people were listening. Well, the way they do things now, because of the whole, you know, so and so take over or whatever or how they do things now and how they make it sound more like a, like we're at an old folks home and, you know, then, then new rage radio or whatever. So you were stuck on a plateau or you were plateaued out or you were stuck in a rut. Well, yeah, because the rut was that the person who was in charge of the state manager didn't have any faith in me. He hasn't had faith in me for a long time. The only reason why. And I know this for probably your fact anyway, I'm going to say it's a fact because it's how I always felt. He's one of those guys that he'll be nice to you know what he sees here or whatever but he really don't care about you. You know, if you really cared about me. I would have had as much attention as he gave Bob, if not more, you know, for when he popped his shows and all the appreciation and milking of Bob that he did, you know, he made Bob look like a star but it was because of Bob being a star. That's why he gave him the stars treatment. Yeah, I was hoping you were going to, I was trying not to interrupt you and yell at you. I was hoping to that that's what's the point that you're kidding too. That's why I quit though that's why I quit all I gave up on pioneer because I just felt like my, they don't they don't appreciate who I am and what I could actually what I really could actually bring and do for that station I can make people I could make that station. It'd be great again will just say, you know, not that to be like Donald Trump, but I'm just saying though I mean what we're doing now for renegade radio. I mean, because of all the failures that I've had in life, and I don't look at renegade radio as a failure I look at renegade radio as like a new platform of a podcast because how many people around this area do you know that are doing the podcasts is where they're doing the way that we're doing it but then bring the twist of the celebrity guests, you know, there's a lot of many people doing that. And that's why, you know, I know we're getting, I haven't gotten the message yet but I know we're getting close to a commercial break. Stay tuned after our little renegade radio thing here that we're going to do for our little ad break. So come back and listen to Frankie sauce and tell you how he got back in his groove. This stuff from how we're starting to show you don't get this stuff from anything but renegade radio. Okay we're back. I just love, I don't love doing it this way this is this is actually pretty cool. Thanks for coming back everybody. What is what got you going again. What was that kick up the butt that made you say you know what they were wrong. I know what I'm doing. And it took a few years, you know, for me to finally get that motivation back, or get that creative juices or the creative juices flow on. I tell you it was more or less last year, or was it last year. Yeah, it was probably last year in June, when I got to, well, when I came down for a little bobby's, you know, first and you know we're going to lose festival, but I didn't stay because my folks didn't want to stay. I wanted to stay but they didn't want to say, and I was living in Greenbush at the time. So interviewing Larry Wigan, who I've known for a while. Awesome, I love him from Crow, and just doing that one on one interview and how nice he was to me and how you remember me from before, because I met him back in 2016 when they came to Denver South Dakota for, for their concerts for Denver Jam. And it was a great opportunity to, because my dad taught me to learn me about Crow and some of the Minnesota artists and stuff from back of the day. So I never said I'd ever be friends with anybody from that band but I'm friends with him and approach with David Wagner as well. Maybe eventually once things get better I think we'll probably try to get both of them on, maybe here before the end of the year, to do like a crowry, kind of like our crow. Yeah, with the two, you know, with him and Larry, and maybe some of the band members if they're willing to all show up, you know, but anyway, it was doing that interview, then I realized that you know what, I still got it. Something, what I have I don't know yet, but I have something screaming Sam is the guy when I asked him to be my co host, you know, for for renegade radio before I even do was going to be renegade radio. And he said yes, and once I knew that I got his okay for it, then we started rolling and that's what I decided you know what let's just see what happens. And didn't always there be a success story. I mean we're not done by by any means necessary but we're just getting we're just getting the ball rolling and the more people that tune in and see what we're all about will be amazed by what they see because there ain't nobody else so much fun there ain't no show out there like us. That's right, which makes me think about I know we only have like less than 10 minutes left and as much as I love your long wordy answers because they're very informative. And they're they're good time time pillars. Sure. Got a few that I'm going to fire at you and we're going to try and. Okay, except the next question the next question I want, I want a good answer on, but I've just got a couple random fire ones that's cool. Okay, first one. Who have who was your favorite guest to have on renegade radio or favorite guests. Oh, I'm going to say, part of my favorite was far. I'd be Dick Warlock, because he's Lance's son, or Lance's father. Lance Warlock's father. He was Michael Myers in Halloween to from 1981. He was one of the original. And he's a horror icon and son double of Richard about Kurt Russell. So he was one of my favorites. And then, I don't know I mean, Sam Morrison, you know, from the Sam Morrison band. And then probably Don Stroud, you know, for sure. My favorite radio, my favorites were probably. Definitely Kelly, Kelly Baker. That was a, that was a good show. So I'm gonna get radio surprise, surprise, my favorite guests were the, the one that to me had a rough start, but it was my guest, and it was also my boyfriend. And that show was just so moving. I went back and I watched it. We have interviewed Lady J. Oh yeah. And we had interviewed little Bobby and little Bobby was sitting next to me. And he was talking to Lady J. And for anybody that doesn't know she is the first radio personality that actually aired his music online. So they've had a very strong bond for many years. And she's done, she's emcee the, the women of the blues festival every year. It's been here. So that was, that was a really good episode like you. You guys are gonna have to go back in the archives, the renegade radio and find this video because you know, your eyes. And in like the feels, you know, that was a really good, that was, it was a good episode in regards to some of the content that was in that episode, you know, I mean, it just, we look back on that and that was literally the Bob's last time on the show. So, you know, maybe that's how it was supposed to happen. I don't know, you know, I mean, we can't predict those things, you know, but what's your favorite comfort food. I like pizza. That was a very, what do you like on your pizza. I'm a Supreme guy. Because I believe if you have supreme, that means you're, you're a very interesting person if you're just a plain cheese person you're probably pretty boring life. Apparently, they need a bit more protein or you're just protein hungry and that's right girls out there. I feel like. Next. What do you think people would be surprised to know about you? Well, they probably would be surprised to know that I've actually interviewed almost 600 people or 600 different entertainers over the since 2006. That's something that I always let people know. So, so, do people know what your age is? No, well, I mean, I mean, so does that know me, do you. Welcome back to the renegade radio takeover of the buzz, but yours truly. Joining us now is screaming Sam, the co-founder of renegade radio. How you doing tonight? Hi, I'm a tea. Oh, you know, I think we messaged a little bit earlier, so I think you know how I'm doing way more than the audience does right now. I'll tell you what that interview I just watched a view and Sean, or Frankie, where everyone at call him. That was a great interview. That was a fantastic interview. I mean, he is a sharp guy does. I mean, not good looking. He's sharp, I mean. Very interesting to listen to. He really is. He's very interesting to listen to. I mean, the people he interviewed and the ideas that come in his kid's head and he's just he's a great guy. That's why, you know, he interviewed me me a few times and when he asked me to be on his show because he had a vision for this show, I said, "Yeah, right away." You know, because I was getting my show together screaming Sam, so I'm starting. I wanted to put that show together and we're in the middle of doing stuff about it. But I'll be honest with you, I'm happy with renegade radio. I'm happy what, you know, what we have. I think we have all good people on there and it's just a great deal, man. And I think Frankie's a great guy. I mean, me too. I mean, okay, so you literally, and I had a list of questions. I've been preparing screaming Sam, so you're a founding member of renegade radio. How did you decide to become a part of it? And you kind of already answered that question. But what made you look at this guy and the stuff he's done and decide, you know what? I do want my name attached to that. Our conversations, our conversation, we had about it. And it wasn't even like, let me think about it. I'll call you back. You know what I mean? I love doing this. I mean, I have my own internet TV show, my own internet radio show. I'm used to being the head guy, but it's nice to sit back sometimes and let someone else have the head guy's job. And I'm, you know, it's a tough job. I mean, I heard you guys talking before here with the school for years and years for that. And, you know, you get these kids coming on and making, making money. Never done this before. I never went to school, but I've been doing this for a long, long time, you know what I mean? And I, I love doing this. I love doing this. I mean, I'll be honest with you, and you're going to be like thinking, I'm nervous doing this right now. One on one deal, you know what I'm saying? You know what I always am? But when Sean started, when Sean started, it was just me, him and I, I was a little nervous before we got the crew on her. And I think we were 100% right about no Bobby, but one of the best guests we had on the thing. And I'll be honest with you. I didn't know Bobby personally, but through you and through him being on a show and talking, you know, texting a few times and whatever on Facebook and. I was saddened by his death. I really, really was. I mean, honestly, that, that episode right there. Before even before Bobby even passed away, it was hard for me to watch because the beginning I was like. You know what? I'm not even going to get into that. I just hadn't watched the episode for a long time, and then I was scrolling through through YouTube and came across the episode again and. Remember that lady Jay was on there and I remembered how Bobby was on that episode and how he interacted with her and like. He just, he felt so much. Yes. And you could, you could see it. You could feel it yourself like when Bobby was happy and laugh, you wanted to laugh when he, when he was sad and feeling shit. You wanted to feel it too. Oh, I just cost on, on the show. I don't. That's fine. You're talking to me. I forgot, I forgot what show I was on for a second. Sorry. I thought it was tomorrow night show. All right, let's. Let's get my head together a little bit and. Why don't you tell me where you're from and tell me about your family and how you got into this, this whole, the whole media deal. Actually, I want to hear about the stuff you did before that first, because that's really. Well, I grew up in Pittsburgh, Mount Washington Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I drove tow trucks and did boy work, like almost my whole life, you know, I mean, and. I'll tell you how it all served with the screams and my family, they, they really don't support me with the screaming sand thing I mean because they didn't like the comedy thing they don't like. How rotten I was on stage and it wasn't me. I'm doing my tribute act, but I did add to it, you know, I'm saying. And like my mom would tell me, get a real job or something. I mean, I own companies. I own a tow truck business. I had John Lewis stoney. I had John Lewis auto boy. I had John Lewis auto sales. I owned a mechanic shop. I had a pizza shop. I had a, I own a bar right now. I have for 30 years. I owned a restaurant. I mean, I had like 10 business that I ran and she tells me to get a real job because I'm doing this. And then you do something for fun on the side. Yeah, it started out that way. So back in 1998. We would, I had long hair beard and we were going to Florida and I shaved because it was going to be hot down Florida. And I, when we walked into Disney, they were selling half. I said, oh, I never had a brave for I'm going to put the prey on. And I weren't the one show member, my first break I bought. And I put it on and we're just walking. I mean, I just didn't have no clue about the Sam Kinnes thing at the time, but I'm walking through it. People start screaming at me and they're going, are you the guy on the Howard Star Show, which is great gas that he does Sam's voice fantastically. And I'm going, no, I mean, I don't know what they're talking about. So my brother, brother law and I go in the bathroom. I'm looking at America. Dude, I probably could do Sam Kinneson. So, do the scream real quick. Oh, sorry. Thank you. So I go home and I start watching all the Sam Kinneson show. I was even like, I was a fan, but not like. I got it like the Jesus jokes up, but now I understand Jesus jokes. I do do them. But so we go home. I go home and I start studying all these tapes that. So the first time I go on stage, I figure, you know what, I make people, I'm like Sam, I make people laugh at work all the time. Maybe I could do this. So I get on stage and I brought a bunch of people. So therefore, the laughter was there. And made me feel good. And then the second time I went on stage, the same place, nobody showed up that I didn't invite nobody. I'm going to try it on my own. I ran out of there. Up through the steps because that community is set up on a balcony ran through the community is done. You haven't signed that. I said, I'll never do this again. So, but then I start someone kept doing. Dude, you look like him. I think you could do it. You know what I'm saying? You never want to see. Oh, this is the scream of Sam show. How are you doing, everybody? Take it over. Mama T show. I'm here. And there she is. Okay, good shape. I know, but I get messages and I try to swipe them away and every once in a while. That's fine. I took over the show for a minute. That's fine. But anyway, um, so I started coming up. What's that? Did you finish your answer? Yeah. I can't hear you. Did you finish your answer yet? I think I did. Yeah. Okay. Well, we've got an ad break coming up here from Grand For Express source. Okay. They are awesome and they are I know they are a video podcast company. They are non corporate. They are privately owned news source. And if you need to advertise your business or you have a podcast that you want. Um, played and do it from your own place or you want to rent studio time. This is a place to go. Go for a jammy. Yes. So today's episode is sponsored in part by Grand For Express source. They're cutting edge local media broadcasting studio with captivating shows on location event coverage and unparalleled advertising opportunities. Grand For Express source has become a haven for podcasters like me seeking to bring their visions alive. If you're a podcaster looking for studio or platform or a local business seeking to advertise, go ahead and email Paul at local@gfbestsource.com. You can call him at 701-740-9337 or you can go to their website that's listed on your screen there. gfbestsource.com. Tell them momma tea sent you. I'm not sure, but it almost sounded like it cut off the end there. Tell them momma tea sent you. Anyway, um, so John as a broadcaster. And I know you you brought up a couple of them already. I want people to know how to find you in case they're turning and tuning in halfway through the show. We're probably going to do this again at the very end. But what platforms have you been known on and since you started? Well, Facebook was big for me. I got my own website, screaminsam.com. But I got updated and everything. Facebook, I do a lot of stuff on Facebook and TikToks like a personal thing. So it's not even about same kind of stuff. But Facebook, I got Screamin' Sam show, I got Screamin' Sam Productions, I got Screamin' Sam. I got my personal, I don't care. I got a Sam Lutz and I got a John Lutz account. And Sam Lutz is more of my Sam stuff and John Lutz is like my personal, but I do put some some some Sam stuff on her. But yeah, I love I love Facebook. I think more I'm probably talking more about the past stuff like this here. And I don't know if you heard that. We can't really get into detail on this one because this one is probably not g-rated. It's probably not a clean version. So we can't probably get into details on it. But I do want you to go into detail on stuff like this because you are an awesome human being. And you sent me and Bobby a little package here with the signed autograph and you look exactly like him. And CDs and DVD is from all the stuff you've done. Can you talk about that for me? Well, I met the how I got the Florida was I met a guy named Tony Blake and he says he wanted to be my manager and he's going to get me done Florida do all kinds of stuff. So we went on we went to Florida and it wasn't successful everywhere I went they didn't want to see him can is the thing. So I met this other guy Vince and while me and Vince he was on my show. I met him at a comedy club and he was all by himself in the back didn't want to bother anybody. So that's kind of person I like to deal with. I mean, I love the people are like that don't want to talk. You know, I mean, so I got to know Vince and he ends up being very interesting. So we start going around the bars the biker bars the strip clubs, and we're doing our gig I bought a stage up on a PA system if I didn't have it. So we were doing these shows and we were becoming a pretty big hit. So then we got a little group together I met this guy Adam and we had water boy and everybody so we started our own little show. It was called the scream and see him show. Sam Kennedy style support about it can is a family which I'm very close friends with them. What was the what was the media for that was that like a this just audio video podcast. It was we had a audio radio show to the Internet radio show which the feudal cup screaming Sam podcast you can still find the radio shows. And we had the screaming Sam the TV show the Internet TV show and the best part of it I got called I got interviewed by the local newspaper about my podcast. And Fox News saw it. So they took it and they wanted to do an interview about the podcast and I told about the Internet TV show. They they jumped on that. So we did an interview on that. You got to find that link and put it in the comments for this. Okay, I will. I actually watched that and that was that that blew my mind. Somebody that had their own show on cable TV like. It boosted me up. That's for sure in Florida. That's for sure. That Florida was pretty popular. I'll be honest with you. I moved to Ohio. They don't know who the hell I am. They don't know what they think. But. But I had so much fun doing that stuff. So when after the Fox News we started doing like a couple interviews like I had, you know, Colombo. After Colombo. Yep. His granddaughter was on my show. She was a singer. I had this other singer on my show. Then all of a sudden we start doing. The strippers and they want to get the point and make the show more interesting, right? And I didn't want to say this story. But it's a truth on your show. But it's a truth and we start getting too much into that stuff. And that's when I had a step right myself. From them. Like we had a porn site. That was a very triple X rated DVD. It was definitely not. Something that you would play on family game night. I. If they want one, I give one away for free if you want it. They give me your address. Yeah. They can get a hold of me or you and reach for that. But like I said, we are a clean show. So we're not going to talk about it. And reach for that. But like I said, we are a clean show. So we're not going to talk about how triple X rated that actually was. Okay. Yeah. We're not going to get into that. As much fun as it was. Trust me. Anybody has ever seen me on renegade radio. You know how potty mouth I can get. You know, you know how dirty minded I am. You let loose actually only able to get halfway through this DVD. Just. That's all I got to say about that. That's awesome. I'm glad to hear it. I was at the point where like somebody needed to come into your studio with with with a carpet champ or. Okay, we will talk about that. Anyway, that's how that's how a scream and sand became famous. So I have to submit, but it got a little too hard for me. So I backed away from the crew. Well, yeah, you got a spouse. You got somebody. You got somebody at home. You got to be respectful to them. And I was respectful. Yeah, I noticed that. I noticed that. I was the guy that told everybody get the hell out of my studio. I got a beautiful wife at home. And I'm going home to my wife. Yep. Well, I was I was professional. I didn't do nothing. You never see me touching anybody or I was always like that. Absolutely. They used to make fun of me about that because I had a lot of opportunities. To get lucky and I wouldn't do it. You know, I try to keep myself family entertainment folks family entertainment. Yep. Yep. As as rude and vulgar as Sam kinison actually was. He was still real. Yes. And he was still he he still had respect for who he was. He wasn't a sellout. He still had respect for the people he loved and wasn't going going to disrespect them in any way. And that's why I believe you are truly the best Sam Kinison tribute artist out there because you're, you might not just do his jokes. You throw your own stuff in there too, but you're still sticking to his values. Thank you. I also. Okay. Getting back to your program. I did sing in bands. A lot of bands. Like we'll get into the band thing now. I sang with a lot of bands. I've been a sturgist. And I met a band is sturgist, Josie Antenna. And you look him up Josie Antenna. He is fantastic. They're bands fantastic. They saw me in the audience in this little bar. And they invite, they, they seen Bill Kinison. They seen me. And they're like, now, I know that's Bill Kinison's I've seen him on TV, but I know Sam's dead. And he's sitting right next to Bill. So they invited me up on stage to sing Wild Thing and I did it. And they put they said the next night come to come the next night. We're going to put you on a big stage with us. So I had, I had an opportunity, Wild Thing on a big stage. Bill Kinison was supposed to be filming it the whole time. He's, he's going like, yes, my camera's pointing at a grind. So he missed it. So we were leaving the venue and I and people are walking up and going, and Bill's with me. They're going, Oh, my God, we're your biggest fans. We have your autograph. Can we have your autograph? And I'm trying to explain to people. I'm not Roy him. And Bill Kinison says, listen, how big of a fan can these people be if they don't know the guys that he goes, just tell them you're him and sign the autographs. And I did that. Yeah. Then I went a little farther, grabbed Bill, go, you want to take a picture of my brother and I? So what do you think are some of the biggest, biggest challenges of staying in this business, just being in physical media? Like being on podcasts, being on local TV, like access shows and a lot of TV. Florida. I did morning shows. I did. And that's a, that's tough, but there's something about me when I see cameras and I, I, like, like Thursday nights, I go to a Pittsburgh for a band. You know how bad I'm going to jump on a stage. When I see a stage, I see a microphone, especially with a band. I would love to go on a stage with these guys, but I don't, but it's, it's, you have to be prepared sometimes for the big stop. You know I'm saying, like I was on a morning show. And when they saw my custom van and a lot, they asked me if I could drive into the studio with the van. Then half when they did a commercial, they turned the van, we turned the van around and they all jumped in my conversion van with flames, that fancy wheels and we drove out the studio. And I've been on a lot of shows. I mean, here's the thing. I have my producer on a Scream of Sam show. I guess it's mad at me or something we took everything I had off of YouTube. I have nothing on YouTube. If you used to be able to Google Scream of Sam, see me, see all my interviews, see the shows I did. And he controlled it, which that's why I hate people control my thought stuff. And it took everything off the internet. Now, I'm going to put some new stuff on. I'm looking for someone. You know what you need to do. You need to contact my producer. Because he's amazing. And look what he's done for me. I mean, this, this is so brand new. What we're doing right now is so brand new. And our first season, you know, was with Little Bobby, like supported by Little Bobby and, and we were promoting him and the bar and everything and coming into season two, I was like, so now there has to be a change, you know. And he was right in there. He came down here. He scooped me up and we went out and we did a bunch of shoots video shoots and now you see what the opening the intro is now right. Even I think you're a professional and it's fantastic. Right. So tell you what, I think your whole setup. I'm going to tell you right now. This guy's expensive. And he's worth every frickin sent. Anybody wants a look like this. Anybody wants a look. Anyway, they want it. You got a hundred percent. Why don't you put your, why don't you put your info up on the screen there real quick. Since I'm talking to you. I was telling that. If I yelled out the screaming Sam show yada yada YouTube dot com, whatever that would go up on the screen right now. Good. He is. But he's so there we go. See. Good. He is good. You see. Um, he could, he probably he's got a pretty heavy workload. Yes, I will mention that. But if you the more he gets paid, the more attention he pays. And guess what? This is pristine. And I can tell you that I am not paying him what he deserves. Right. Contact him. You need a producer. You need somebody in charge of your stuff that you're, you can trust. This is the guy for you. Okay. So I'll keep that in mind. Now I'm going to stop plugging my producer because I do it every show. Jeremy, love you. Let's go on to show Jeremy. Yeah, right. Um, so tell me about a time. Where are you got to the? Oh, you know what? You never actually told me about what you did before you got into the media. Because I was talking about some other things I had that could fit in here. Only I wanted a bigger container. Yeah, talking about that time in your life. The time before I did Sam. Um, like I said, I was, I was working, I worked. You know, with the bar and all my businesses. I worked, I started seven o'clock in the morning. First thing to do is go to a restaurant. All my crew would be there. I'd buy everybody breakfast. Then I'd work all day down at garage. Then I'd go up the bar and do stuff up the restaurant. And I actually worked every day from seven o'clock in the morning to like three in the morning because I would close the bar. And I just, I was a hustler. I worked my ass off and that's how I got successful in businesses. I was an entrepreneur that I did everything. Were you and your brother into some kind of burial stuff or something? My brother is in a burial business. Mad dog. Good kid. And he, he took his job serious too, man. He, he, he called me up crying about little kids. Huh? You did that with him for a while. No, I never did it. That was, that was actually that Keith or that. The guy was yours. Oh my God. My memory just left left. That's okay. It's okay because you know what? I got a really special question somewhere here because we only got three minutes left the show. I don't know how they. Heck, I managed to. You're a good talker. I had a question here. I was going to ask you. Oh, tell me again about the different shows you had. Tell me, I want, I want to know about your favorite guests and why they were your favorite guests and how that. On my screen museum show. Any of them. Anytime you had a guess. I'll be honest with you. You know, three, three minutes, but you know the one real good. Yeah, and it has to be. That's my number one guess. Plus, he was a part of our show for a while. The second guess I thought was pretty cool was Richard Pryor, Jr. Really? You know, Waterboy, you know, Waterboy was on our show. He claimed they could do Richard Pryor's voice and it was absolutely terrible. While I invited Richard Pryor, Jr. to be a judge and Bill Kennison and it turned out to be a disaster. And then Richard Pryor, son goes, my dad's rolling over in his grave. It was a fantastic show. And he made it great. And then I had another person who passed away, God for God bless her. And he did a, he did his female act, his female act. And it was just Bertha Bangers. That was the, I'm sorry, there's more, but that guy was on a higher start show, speech impediment man. He was always a great guest. He joined us all the time. So we had some, we had some good people on our, I mean, through Bill Kennison, Paulie Shore was on our everybody. You had Paulie Shore? I did it. I did a show. Matter of fact, I don't know three years ago, if you look it up on YouTube. Oh my gosh, she did a podcast with Paulie Shore. Oh my God. I did a poll. I did a podcast with Paulie Shore. It was great. It was great. I mean, you have to look it up. So if you had to do a 20 second ad for Renegade radio, what would you say? Listen, folks, you don't know who you're missing. If you're not watching, you're listening to Renegade radio or watching it. Because it's the best out there right now. Next to mama T's. They're both the same. Not both the same. Come on. This not both the same. Well, not the same, but levels of awesomeness. Yes, of course. But you have a mama T think about this. When we first started Renegade radio, Sean was a little shy about edginess. Now he's right up for with us. He's right up, which I love because you need to be edgy sometimes. Yep. Yep. If I did a show with the screaming Sam guys, it would be, we probably get thrown out everywhere. And I love that stuff. Well, you know, I think we're coming to the end here. Thanks for filling in last minute. I knew I knew one of you guys would. I mean, this was the Renegade radio takeover show. Right. And I love all my guests on this show. We love you. We love you. And some of them are crossovers. Some of them that watch this show because of Renegade radio. Some of them like Renegade radio because they've seen this one. And some of the people that watch either show only have seen it now because of Grand Forks best source. Thank you, Grand Forks best shorts. Thank you. I don't look at that. Oh, yes. Oh, our next Renegade radio show. I almost forgot. We are going to be interviewing Tracy J Morgan. And she is an awesome author from the UK and she wrote a book about John Candy. And I know we have another guest on that show that night too. I can't, I can't put my finger on who it was, but you guys got to tune in tomorrow night. Surprise. It'll be amazing. So, Sam, you want to take it away for Renegade radio for tomorrow night. Yeah, what's Renegade radio tomorrow at, I get the time to mess up. It's by 30. Your time, 630 my time. Watch it tomorrow because it's going to be a blast. And of course Mama T will be there. And so well screaming Sam and my first guest Frankie Slausen. And I love Frankie. I love everybody on the show. I love them all. Thank you all for tuning in tonight. Thanks for coming back for another show or if your first time you viewer. Thanks for watching to the end. Fantastic. Watch Renegade radio. You've got to watch the buzz of Mama T and you got to tune in to Grand Forks Festors. What's up, Kelbee? Yeah, I want that girl. Yeah, I want that girl. Yeah, it's in my pain. It's in my pain. Yeah, it's in my pain. Yeah, it's in my pain. Yeah, it's in my pain. Yeah, it's in my pain.