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TADPOG: Tyler and Dave Play Old Games

Ep. 781 - Outlander (SNES)

Witness me, Blood Bag.

Broadcast on:
03 Sep 2024
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Witness me, Blood Bag.

You're about to listen to Tadpog, Tyler and Dave play old games. It's a comedy video game podcast. We would like to stress that the host are not experts and are really just very crass commentators. Seriously, this is an explicit podcast that happens to talk about video games sometimes. So please enjoy this pretty okay podcast with Tyler and Dave. Hello Internet, and welcome to what's fitting I had car trouble today of all episodes. I'm mother of all car trouble. And you're wearing your cop BDSM outfit too, it's like you weren't planning on doing that. I really didn't think the ass in a whole rag. I really didn't think the assless chaps were going to happen, but here we are. You see old chaps rashless mite. I was going to say someone crunted Miller on that one. Yeah. Well, the show you're right, I forgot about that. Yeah, he had a good reaction to that as I recall. Yeah. I mean, I hope it was an Australian person. I just did it because we got one of those. We got at least two, well, at least one, probably two, probably two. But today we're talking about the game outlander, but they say no funny. Say what? They say no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I just need to throw that out. No, no, no. You say no funny. I like it, but it's funny. They also, their, their accent adapts to a southern accent very well. Yeah. According to the actors on True Blood that are Australian and have perfect for their accents. Now, did they choose southern accents because it was easier for them? Like, whether it's for like, was True Blood supposed to be like set in Boston? And then they were like, no, no, mate, we can't do that. No. No, no, no, mate, we're going to go to Kroger's. [LAUGH] Today we're talking about outlander, which is actually the SNES movie game for the road warrior. So, but before we get to all the Mad Max talk and the game talk, what you guys been up to? Nothing. Really, played over watch a lot for what it's worth and then did watch an interesting movie called Long Legs. I don't know if you've heard of this. I have heard of that. Listen now, what did the theater to see long legs? Oh, did you really? We did. Some short legs. Got a refund. [LAUGH] I heard of it before and it came on and on a streaming platform of my choice. Yeah. Oh, okay. Cool. That's all that one. Yeah. That's good to know. And it was okay. It was weird. It was okay. It was weird. I enjoyed it a lot. I thought Nick was crazy. Nick Cage was good. He was crazy good. That weird like outfit, like makeup he was wearing. It's a playing Dracula again. Of a sort. [LAUGH] In a way. In a way. I just want him to be Dracula in every movie. But I liked it. I thought it was pretty good. Kind of a thriller/horror movie. It reminded me a lot of sort of a modern, maybe a modern take on, which is fucked up though, because I think it takes place in the 90s. It does. It takes place during the Clinton administration. It's really not modern, but it's sort of like silence of the land. It has a, it does look a little like Buffalo Bill, in a way. I mean, much paler. Crusting powder and Buffalo Bill. Oh wow. Yeah, yeah. That's a sales pitch right there. It really is accurate to say that. But I really enjoyed the movie. It was a lot of fun. It's supposed to saw a TikTok that said, "Go see this movie. Don't know anything about it, but go see it." So we just point blank knowing nothing about it went to go see it. Okay. Well, that's kind of how I went. I was going to get into it as well. But the woman that plays the lead in that, she's really good. She really nailed it as far as I'm concerned and very, very clearly starling vibe to her. I mean, it was just, you could just see a lot of the parallels. It was nothing like silence of the lambs, but it was a lot like silence of the lambs. It's kind of hard to explain. It reminded me a little bit of hereditary in that it seemed grounded and then there was like a sudden supernatural twist. Yeah, it did get like freaky supernatural all of a sudden there towards the middle, which to some people's dismay from what I've heard, that that was not the preferred direction that some people would like for it to have gone. It didn't bother me, but it would have been cool if they just stayed grounded in, you know, the now. But... Yeah, Nick Cage was plenty creepy on his own. Yeah, he did a good job. He really did. And it was a good story. I enjoyed the story a lot and I thought it was a lot of fun. I'm going to give that one three and a half stars was and say he says, "Check it out." Aside from that, I just been working on my cars and my car and my truck just doing stuff like that and being real busy at my job and just so tired that I come home at night and play Overwatch for a couple of hours and then go to bed. I'm still watching Bad Monkey that Vince Foncho on Apple TV Plus is still pretty good. I'm still watching Sunny, the A24 show on Apple TV Plus with Rashida Jones that I mentioned. It's pretty good too. I'm still like episode to episode on all of these things, so I can't really speak to the entire season, but so far I'm enjoying both of those and it's like I'm trying to talk myself out of buying this new Star Wars outlaws game that's coming out. Man, I've seen a commercial for that on YouTube. I mean, the commercial made it look really good, it made it look really fun. It looks fun. I've seen a lot of trailers and gameplay trailers. So to scroll the gun? So to scroll the gun like school, I'm tempted to try that too. Yeah, Michael made post it in Discord that I got a notification that it was out on Steam and then he posted that it was more of a collectathon than he thought it was going to be and I was like, "Ah, well, I was excited about this, but I think I'll wait until it goes on sale and I'll just play Final Fantasy XIV." That's kind of where I'm at with both of those. I know that Star Wars outlaws, it looks really good, it's an open world Star Wars adventure. It looks good. It looks really like the graphics visually, it looks fucking great and I'm excited to give that one a shot, but I am not spending $70 and that's for the base version. If you buy the ultimate edition, apparently it's going to have a season pass, which kind of frustrates me like a battle pass kind of thing I guess. Do you know what kind of game it is? It's an open world, it's like Red Dead Redemption and GTA and all that. That's what I would have preferred Squirrel with a gun to be. Honestly, I was hoping it was going to be like a sandbox kind of like, "You're a squirrel and you haven't gotten it." It's my understanding that that's how Star Wars outlaws works, only on like a galactic scale. I mean you can go to multiple planets and explore and do the things you want to do and pick up different quests depending on where you're at. It looks like a great game and it looks like a lot of work and effort went into it. I'm excited to give it a shot, but you got to Ubisoft Plus though, right? You can get things, get playing that. It's not on there. It's in the commercial I saw, I had the logo on it. Oh, did it? Yeah. Well, I don't know. I was joking because I don't know anybody who has that. Well, I don't have it, I don't think, and I just don't have the money right now to drop $70 on a video game. I know that's the going rate, but I'm going to give it some time to come down. It's on if you own the game now, you can pre-order it. It's like not supposed to release, of course by the time this airs, it will have released. I think it's supposed to release this Friday, but if you pre-order it, you get some bonus stuff and you get early access and all kinds of stuff like that, but the FOMO is real, but I don't want to spend the money right now. I'm not in a position to buy a video game at the moment. Yeah, 70 bucks is a lot, man. You can get a lot of games for $70. You know what I mean? You really can. And you're right. I mean, if this were like, I would probably feel differently if this game were like a world of Warcraft multiplayer, like a massively multiplayer type of deal. I'd probably feel differently about it because I wouldn't want to jump in in six months when everybody has already finished it, leveled up to the fucking max, and it wouldn't be any fun, but it's not so I'm going to wait for it to go on sale. Hopefully it gets down into $30 range in the next year or so. Yeah, about a year. I don't know how Ubisoft games typically do, but I mean, it's wild how like, I can't remember what game it was. There's a game, a new game, and I got a notification about it. Oh, it's remnant to I remember remnant to I wanted to play it. My sister and my brother-in-law, they were playing it. I was like, Oh, damn, it looks sweet and it was on Xbox Game Pass or there was some situation where it's like, fuck, I don't want to play that with a controller. And it wasn't like on either wasn't on PC Game Pass or there was some, there was a fucking thing. Right. And so it's like, well, I guess I could buy it. It's like, yeah, that's fucking, games are fucking expensive. And then they were talking about that at Christmas, I remember, and it's like, I got a email saying it was on sale for like 30 bucks. And it's like, shit, all right, man, nine months. Time it takes for a, you, a baby, a human to be conceived a game's $40 less. That's all right. Nice. That's all I've got today, kind of light on the, on the personal side this, this evening. Oh, well, I did, I did go and have my meeting about my colonoscopy. Does that go well? It hasn't happened. The meeting went well. I haven't had the colonoscopy yet. I don't have that till like late October. What are they talking? What are you doing in the meeting? They talk about like, the big game. They just tell you like what kind of prep I have to do and give me instructions and get me scheduled. So October, late October is what I'm supposed to have it done. Right on. So I'll see. I'll keep everyone posted on that fun outing. That gives you time to mentally prepare, I guess, or just worry about it. Honestly, I was hoping they'd just be like, let's just do it. Let's just get you done. Fuck it. Do it now. Give you a big ol' anima. I got eight minutes. Let's do it. Yeah. We'll give you a big ol' anima and we'll just jump right in. But I, I'm the kind of guy who will obsess and think over it for the whole time. That sucks. And I just want it, I'd rather it just go, you know, just sit down and think about the procedure or the results or all of it. All of it. Yeah. I mean, but mostly just the procedure. Yeah. I've had countless people now, including several people on the Discord and family members and friends that have said, yeah, my mom had the same thing. She took the color guard test and came back abnormal and she got a colonoscopy and she was fine. My dad said the same thing and it was just all, it's, I'm not, at the moment, there's no point in eating. So it's a gastro scam is what you're saying. Yeah. I think so. It does sound like. The moment there's no point in eating. If they'll shoot in a box and mail it to us, they'll pay for a vote and go and ask it be. Let's just see if it works. Well, that's, that's exactly what it is. That's brilliant. That they deserve the money. Honestly. Yeah, that's brilliant. Man, I'm gonna be backing up into that colonoscopy. I'm not gonna shit in a box. I'm gonna scare my doctor. Just throwing it back. Yeah. Into the machine. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's a machine. It's a camera. I thought the doctor wore like a codpiece or something. Yeah. Nevermind. Only the most hung doctors can be. No, I mean, look, that's, I don't know, I feel like that's prejudiced. That's all I got. What about you, Dave? Man, I've been watching this, uh, this anime called Free or in, uh, uh, what now? Free. It's a F-R-I-E-R-E-N. That's the name of the elf main character. She's kind of like, she's, she's the main character of the series, but like, she's not the main character of the world. The setup's really cool, man, cause it's like, she was an elf in a, uh, she was the only elf in a party and elves in this world, like most fantasy worlds are, um, borderline immortal. They haven't like, I don't know if they've straight up said she's immortal or not, but, you know, Tolkien asks where it's like, they live a long time, you know? So, um, 10 years ago, not 10 years ago, what the fuck? A long time ago, she was in a, uh, she was in a party with like two humans and a dwarf and, um, the story doesn't actually begin until like, spoilers on the first episode, but like, the hero of that party dies, cause he's an old man. So, um, that's what kicks the whole thing off. Like, he's the main character of the world, like, everything, like, all the history of the world, since they, as a party, took down the shadow king. He's their anchor. He is their anchor. Yeah. So, like, you know how we have like, it's the year of our lord, 2024, uh, I mean, it's like the hero, it's like, their timeline starts, their calendar starts when, uh, he dies. Um, so it's neat, man. It's like, um, it is a super fucking like, thoughtful, heartfelt, uh, anime, like that surprised me, um, I watch, I watch a lot of fantasy stuff cause I like the genre, but like, this is different, like, this is, this is for real different, this is a good, this is a good or really good show, this is like an exceptional outstanding show, um, I recommend it to, to anyone, um, it's great. I think Madhouse is the, uh, studio, um, I read the first volume of the manga, I don't know how faithful it is beyond that, but I mean, yeah, it's great dude. I, I think it's awesome, um, big recommend, big recommend, uh, they're like, it feels really, I've watched a lot of like superficial stuff, uh, recently, like, bastard and like, I mean, that's fun, but this is, this is, this is weird, bastard's weird. Yeah. I got about two thirds of the way through the first season of bastard and I just kind of stopped. I couldn't keep it in, I couldn't keep it up. Yeah, you got a, that's like, um, that's like an anime that really plays into like the early 90s. Yeah. And nostalgia. Oh yeah. For sure. Like, you got to be like, in the mood to watch. Yeah. Bastard. Specific thing. Three exclamation marks. Yeah. It's important. Um, yeah, man, it's good. Free her in. Check it out. It's on, uh, I don't know, a crunchy roll, I think, I think that's where we're watching it. Um, but Hulu has a lot of the same stuff. Crunchy roll does. It might be on Hulu. I don't know. Yeah. Cause like, Ken and I watched Naruto dubbed on Hulu and it's not on crunchy roll. Oh, that's a shame. Mm hmm. Yeah. That's weird. Yeah. I don't know, man. Yeah. Big recommend. Uh, and then, I mean, I've played, I've been playing this guy, uh, it's like a strategy RPG for the PlayStation two. Hell yeah. Have you played it? Yeah. Oh man. But yeah, I own like several and I've only played a little bit of one. The first one or? It's an early one. It's a remake of an early one. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. Uh, was it on DS or like, cause I think there was a remake of one on DS and I think it was Vita was the one that I started with. Oh, yeah. I don't know which one's on Vita. I'm playing the first one. It was on Steam like for like, I don't like two dollars. I've always heard amazing things about them. So yeah, dude, I like it a lot. It's a fucking time melter for sure. Like, I've been playing on the Steam deck, hooked up to the TV in the bedroom, been playing it in bed, Nikki's chilling beside me. She'll watch and like, I don't help me figure shit out. Between that and like she's, you know, she likes to play word games like on her phone. So like she'll, she'll be doing that too. And it's like, man, the other night she was, she's like, I can't believe it's only eight and 30. I'm like, yeah, it feels like it should be later than that. And then 10 minutes later, it's like, holy shit, it's 11.45. What the fuck? So it's one of those, it's one of those games. Yeah, for sure. It's, you know, since you know about it, you know, it's like tactics, style, over tactics, Final Fantasy tactics, but it's got like a real fucking, I don't know how the later games are, but it's better. That's all I was attracted to. Because I was like, Oh, Shining Force slash tactics. Yeah. Yeah, man. And it's got this like humor been to it, which is why I was curious if, because I was, as I was playing it, it was one of those where it's like, man, I don't know if Tyler would love this or hate it because it's not as like Final Fantasy tactics is, I feel like is a great game. I like it. But I feel like it's pretty self serious. And this guy, at least this one, I can't speak for all of them, but this guy a one is like the opposite of that. The one I'm playing is like in hell and like a bat is trying to coach me out. Okay. Yeah, this one takes place in the nether world as well, but it's probably a different one because there's no, there's no, I don't have a bat or nothing. I got a succubus and then like this angel gets sent from Celestia, well, I assume she's an angel. It's not explicitly said, but she's sent down to assassinate the Prince and you're playing as the Prince Laharl. So yeah, it's, it's goofy. It's goofy, but it's like, I love, I love the special abilities in it and I love, I love that honestly, like I love that grind. The grind is a lot of fun and it's like, I like the system of, you can recruit more team members, right? You can recruit soldiers to your army, tactics style, Final Fantasy tactics style. But like their abilities, like their, their growth potential is maxed out essentially by your, your standing, how much standing you have. So it becomes this game where it's like, all right. So I hired this fighter and his, I have to, I have to hire him as a good for nothing. Like that's a rank and like genius is like the highest. And so you kind of play this game where it's like, well, I don't have enough money. I don't have enough standing to hire a good one. So I'll hire a bunch of bad ones, level them up and then like merge them together so that they like increase the rank that way. There's a, I was surprised man by the, by the amount of like systems in this game. And there's like this mechanic where like there's this like fiendish, uh, Senate essentially and you can try to extort them for money. And like for like there was this one thing where it's like, Oh, fuck it, I'll try it. See what happens. Where it's like, you can try to get money from them, raise war funds. And so they're all going to vote on whether or not they're going to give you this money. And you can bribe them. Like that's part of the, that's part of the game. And like you go through your item list and they're like, Oh yeah, I like that. Or they're like, so you bribe them and then they vote and the vote doesn't go in your favor. You'd be like, fuck it. I'm going to kill you all or try to. And if you, and if then you can try to, then if you fight and if you kill the Senate, then you get whatever you came for. But like I tried that and those motherfuckers are like, I mean, they like one shot two of my like party members, like, like the big one, like the, like the two main characters. They were just like, newt them from orbit. It's fun, man. It's got a bunch of, it's like, it's crazy how much like how many systems and mechanics are in that game. It's kind of overwhelming, honestly. Like I can't imagine coming from it, having not played any other strategy games. Like I feel like it's not, it's too much, man. It's too big of a tactics cock to take if you haven't played like Final Fantasy tactics or Ogre, you know, tactics or something like that. I don't know. And then it's got that thing where you can level up items by going inside of the item and every item is a dungeon. That's what Sheikh was telling me about. Like he would go in potions and level them up to where elk licksers and shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty wild. I mean, it's, it is wild. It's wild. It's fun. Yeah. It's fun. It is different. That's pretty much it, man. That and Final Fantasy, you know, doing the regular stuff. Still level and reaper, although it's like almost, I say almost 200, but you know, it's like I think 93 right now. So. It's pretty fun, dude, though. Yeah, man. It's a fun, it's a fun job and it's kind of, I haven't leveled all of the melee DPS to 100. I mean, so far it seems like pretty straightforward compared to like Samurai. When I was making the show notes last week and brought up links about Dark Knight, like all the YouTube videos, like universally agree. It's fucking dumb that Dark Knight's a tank class and it shouldn't be. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. It's silly, dude. It really is. Yeah. Yeah. It's silly, but it is what it is. Dark Knight's in a weird play. I talked about this a little bit last week. Dark Knight's kind of in a weird place because yeah, people like me and apparently these YouTubers that you saw that's like, yeah, it's weird that it's a tank class. And then you- I've gotten on a very good one either. Like you're probably shooting audience. I know. It's this raid tier. It's been like, I'm not like a savage raid or anything, but like the word on the street is that like three out of four fights in this raid tier, Dark Knight's like the weakest tank. Yeah. Yeah. So. As it should be. Fuck it. Yeah. Look, man. I don't know. It is what it is. Yeah, it is what it is. Is it fixing it? I made a new class. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. And it's weird to me because like we were talking about, you know, Reaper and Dark Knight last week. And it didn't even dawn on me to say that like to me, like a scythe is more of a Dark Knight weapon to me than a great sword, but that's like against the grain of like all other like final fantasies. It's just because of Final Fantasy 11. Oh. Well. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I feel like that aesthetic makes sense too. It does. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Although what? Dark Knight-ish thing and what's the DS one that we loved? The DS Final Fantasy. We're going to defend. And get extra. Oh, bravely default. Bravely default. Yeah. They had sides. Yeah, they did. Yeah. You're right. All right. Fuck, man. I remember when black mages used sides and Final Fantasy 11. Yeah. I mean, they were bad at with them, but you're actually-- Yeah. I had one. Yeah. It was bad ass, right? Yeah. So I mean, that's pretty much it. It's, you know, outside of watching Mad Max 2 for, I thought, was not going to be the first time, but was the first time and then, you know, playing Outlander. That's kind of it, man. Cool. What about you? Um, Lewis and I are about halfway through Mitchell. Mitchell. And it's D3K. Nice. He's on my action hero draft, I think, if you recall. It's so fucking weird. Like, I'm watching this, like, dude, this is the most awful written character and I have no idea where it's going, what's happening, the guy, the drug lord hates him and then he's like, come in and have some soup. Yeah. And in the weirdest sex scene I've ever seen in a movie where Mitchell's like this just gross, disgusting person who fucks this girl a lot of feet rubbing, lots of feet rubbing, and any busting for weed. It sounds like my kind of hero. But other than that, it's just been a lot of work. But by special request, I do have a blind draft of legendary cars, man, and I'm excited. I got a new sheet of paper from, uh, this is Conklin Metal Industries. Don't know where this came from, but it was sitting in Conklin Metal Industries. They have possibly could have come from Ostell, Georgia, Birmingham, Alabama, Charlotte, North Carolina, Greenville, South Carolina, not Kentucky. They're everywhere. Greenbow, Alabama, Mobile, Alabama is on here. Wonder how far Mobile is from Greenbow. It's a good question. I'm not sure. I like this idea for the car draft. I wish I had thought of it, 10 spot, 10 spot, number one, 97 carry mythical, unique cars across media. Okay. Is the car that Homer designed on here? It is not. Okay. That's important information to know. Next one, the Ghostbusters car. Oh, I can go one. I can go one. Thank you. It was Ecto something. All right. The Ecto one. The Ecto one got so much love and Ghostbusters afterlife. Yeah. Because you know, they didn't really spend a lot of time on the car in the original movies. Like you saw it. You heard the, you know, the siren and it was a, it was a key part of the. Movie. But you didn't really get to see it like they didn't shoot it the way that like they did in afterlife, which is like car chase style and of course she had that gunner seat that pops out. That's a cool scene. I like that. It's one of my favorite scenes in the movie. And it really, the car really just kicks ass. Yeah. You know, you forget that that car is a, is like a 73 Cadillac V eight, you know, it's a big motor. Yeah. The bodies is carrying. Yeah. Because it was a horse. Yeah. Yeah. The coffins are heavy. Especially the coffee. The coffins do be heavy though. You got to have like what? Six people of the carrier. With a body in it. If I'm involved, you need seven. Are you in the coffin? No. If I'm a bearer of the call of the call, yeah, man. And they were like, that was the whole teaser trailer for the Ghostbusters. They're like, finding it in the barn with the cloth over it. You remember that? Right. The shroud of turns. Yeah. Right. Did it right? You know, he, he made it. Well, it's a tangible thing. They can still be there 30 years later. Yeah. Did it right? Man. Right. Man. It's high on my list. Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. Which bus do you put? Echo one is I'm going to leave some spots open because once again, I just can't commit. I get it. Echo one is going to be in number three for me. Love, don't fit. That's a two for me. Man, I'm tempted to put it in one. I'm tempted to put it in two or one myself, but I'm leaving it open because I got a lot of potentials here that might strike my fancy a little bit more. John Voigt's Volvo from Seinfeld might be on the list. That would be my one spot. So I got to save it for that. Okay. So two, Ecto, Ecto one is actually Ecto two. The back to the future, DeLorean. I knew that was going to be on here. I enjoy that. What was it? Celebrities and cars getting coffee. Yeah. And so, Jason was going to drive one with his episode of Patton Oswalt and it broke down immediately and they had to get a different car. DeLorean? Yeah. DeLorens were pieces of shit. There's no question about it, but they were cool looking and back to the future, those movies are very meaningful and important to me. They are probably some of the favorite movies I've ever watched. They're good, man. And I watch them again and again and again and I can't get enough. Even if they are a little dated from time to time, they're really not. I mean, they still work, the DeLorens going in the one spot. I love that car. I love cars and I love that car in particular and I watched a whole documentary about someone tracking down all of the DeLorens that were used in the movies, like "Where Are They Today?" So they used most of the DeLorens in Gallup and Berg in the car museum in Gallup and Berg. Yeah. I'm sure that they touched on that. It's been a while since I watched that documentary, but yeah, they used several and like, yeah, the DeLorens are my number one. There might be some that would also deserve to be in number one, but I don't have a problem putting the DeLorean there. Dave? Man, that's high up there for me too. I know there's a car that's going to be, I know there's a car that's going to be on this list. I'm saving from one. So that's going to have to be, I mean, but that's high up there. That's a three for me, man. That scene in the first movie where they're, you know, spoilers, where they're trying to get back to the present and you got the lightning, got to strike the tower. That scene, man, when it leaves the fucking fire tire tracks, that is so iconic, man. It really is. It's on the poster. I mean, it's an unbelievable, it's unbelievable and I love it. I reserve the right. Once again, there's one car, I'm not sure if it's going to be on this list that would deserve to be above it on my list, but again, I'm not upset about putting the DeLorean in slot one. No, held early in the draft. Number three, the General Lee. I was just about to ask if your number one spot was named after Confederate General. It isn't, but it is in my two spot. Yeah. I know you got a lot of love for the Dukes of Hazard. I do. I don't love the Confederate flag on top when I was a kid. I didn't understand, you know, I was drawing the fucking car with the Confederate flag on it and I didn't, but I didn't know. I have since become educated and I will reiterate what I've said before on that. On the show, you know, the Dukes and their family were the last fucking, the farthest from being racist that you could ever be. They were, and that's one of the reasons I really love the show. They were criminals. They ran moonshine illegally and we're always getting into some manner of trouble, but at the end of the day, they were good people trying to do right by their own family and take care of themselves, but never with intention to hurt anyone. I always thought that despite the fact that the generally had a rebel flag on top, it was a wholesome show that taught good values, if in a bit of a cheesy way at times, and I loved it, and that car, I was obsessed, I'm still obsessed with the old challengers. But generally, it was just one of my favorite cars ever. It would also have, it would also, I would not have any shame about putting it in the top spot, but it does go in my number two. Number two? I don't, I mean... Not the same attachment. No, I never watched Dukes of Hazard, so I mean, it's like, it's a, and I know there are going to be plenty like cars I do have attachment to, that's a 10 for me. It's just a little before my time, and I mean, it's, I mean, yeah, that's a 10, man. There's a really good, the Dukes of Hazard movie is really good. Oh, the... It's Broken Lizard. Recent one? Yeah. Yeah, it's like 2008. Hey, yeah, right. Recent. Recent. Just last year, right? Yeah. It's super duper true. Johnny Knoxville is Luke, and... Sean Williams. Yeah, Sean Williams. Scott. Jessica Simpson. Willie Nelson. Willie Nelson is, is Uncle Jesse, which is fucking amazing. It's, it's actually a really good movie, and they kind of dig on that, they, they get into the thing about the Rebel flag just a little bit, and they touch on that and kind of make fun of that, make fun of that. But if you're not into the old show, she give the, you should give the Dukes of Hazard the movie a shot. It's pretty, it's pretty entertaining. Man, all right. It's, I'll put it in Jessica Simpson's, she's hot as hell in that movie, saw it general at least nine for me, I'm gonna bring that, that knocks it up like, I'm not. Catherine Bock, the original Daisy, she was pretty hot back in the day. Isn't she in it too? No, she's not in it. None of the original people from the movie are in it. Number four. Or from the show, I should say. Adam West's Batmobile. All right. So we're gonna, all right. So we're getting into specific Batmobiles. Uh huh. Man. Just say Batmobile. I have to specify. That fucks my shit up a bit, you see, because I only have a one, one spot is the problem. Do you get the, do you get the theme song to go with it when you drive it, or is it just the car? What, the rights to it? Or this? No, it doesn't play. I think only that you're only playing it's own theme song. It's just the car, not the theme song. When you hunk the horn, it plays, then, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and. Oh, fuck. That's the number one right there, baby. I like that Batmobile, but there are a lot of other cars from shows and movies I like more. I'm gonna put that at seven. Seven. Seven. Dave. I do have a lot of attachment to that, to that car. That was like, man, I used to watch that show. I love that it had a fucking flasher on top, like a cop lot. Yeah, right. It was so cool. Yeah. Man, I don't know. Like he is in no way affiliated with the police, but he has a siren on top. Man, he had that red phone too. I know that wasn't the Batmobile, but that red phone. Yeah. That was hot. Yeah. It's a little statue with the button. Yeah. Yeah, man. This is a great show, and I love the old Batmobile, but. Yeah. And we were just talking about Irma Kit, and, yeah, Eartha Kit, sorry. Yeah. Yeah, man. All the Cat women. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, if it doesn't, if the theme song doesn't come with it, look, man, I used to watch it show twice a day and third grade. I'd come home to school, and that would be on, I would watch it. And then sometimes it would come on at night too, and it'd be like bonus Batman. So, but I know there's going to be other Batmobiles on here. Fuck it, man. Four. Fuck it. Four. Good spot. Good spot for it. Next. Herbie. Herbie. Fully loaded. I like. Fully loaded. Like a big picture. I watched all of the original Herbie movies, the Disney movies. I love the shit. I love those movies. I love them, but, and I like the car. Was he like, did he have like a human infused in him? Is that his deal? I can't remember what the exact deal was, but I think that lore was something to do with like, there was some guy's soul in the car. That's what I thought. Right? So yeah, okay. I think so. I think so. I could be wrong. That's like, that could go like a whole Stephen King route, you know? And I love the paint job on Herbie, the Stripe, it was the red and blue stripe with like, and I think it had like a three, I mean, I was thinking of three too. I fucked up. In the 1969 film Herbie, Stumpfel believes that his strong feelings for his loved one Elsa transformed into the metal of the car, making it impossible for Herbie to come to life. That is romantic. That is super weird. But okay. Anyway, that's my Artificer backstory. On this list, Herbie ranks a 10, got nothing against Herbie, and Herbie fully loaded with Lindsay Lohan. He's just sentient. They just have to be a sentient car for no, no, it's not even a transformer like Bumblebee or anything unless that's the unless Herbie's been Bumblebee all along. I mean, they've been here forever. You ever seen them in the same room together? I don't know. They're usually in the skies. They're usually in the skies. The skies, please. Yeah. I'm going to put Herbie at 10. Nothing but love for Herbie, but on this list, I think he belongs at a 10. Yeah, man. That's a 10 for me. We used to have to watch that in school and it was always like, "Fuck, man. Can we just learn?" We got to watch Herbie again. I know you're hungover, but I want to learn it. Look, man, I don't know how to convert decimals to fractions. We might need to figure this shit out. Do we decimals this time? I'm going to need that forever to teach me. How am I going to find anything? In the library that I go to all the time to find the books. Yeah. I'm not going to be able to convert fractions on a calculator in my pocket. I had nothing against the public library. Frequent your public library. It's impossible to have wonderful programs and things to do. But I lived in McCracken County. It's a great place. It's a great place. It's a great place. The McCrack County library a lot. The McCrack County library is nice. Yeah, it is real nice. It's one of the nicer things about. You get video games there. I read all of Wings there. Yeah. Yeah. All of Wings. Mm-hmm. Next, the van from A-Team. Bum-bum-bum-bum. I don't know if it has a name. Just the A-Team van is what I've always called. Does the theme song come with this car? It makes a difference. It's an A for me if it doesn't. If it does, fuck man. I'm saving one for a Batmobile, but I might go ahead and put it in one if it comes with the theme song. Mr. T is in it. Is he driving it? Shit. Mr. T's in it. All right. Okay. I will swap my numbers if Mr. T's in, it comes with it to just take you places and hang out with you. Did you come with the car? Yes. Frequently. Again, I'm holding out, but I fucking love the A-Team van. Number six is where I'm putting A-Team van, but I love that van. That is an iconic vehicle and it's so simple. It was in Black Earth. He went and got it and was driving it around. It's black with a red diagonal stripe and red rims and a spoiler. That's it. It's an awesome van. Made me want a van. I wanted one, six for the A-Team van. The nature of this being a van just told me I probably should say my number one spot for not a Batmobile, so I'm going to have to readjust some shit. A-Team van, I'm telling you, dude, that's an eight. That's an eight for me. I mean, nothing against the A-Team. I just never saw it. That's why I like the theme song a lot because the theme song fucking rocks. That's a great theme song. If we were doing theme song rankings, it'd be in the top five, but yeah, I don't know much about the van. I mean, honestly, until you described it, I was having a hard time being like, was it like copper colored? So that's an eight for me. I was glued to the A-Team every week. I watched it like it was my job. Loved that show. Next would be Kit from Night Rider. B-b-b Yeah. Yeah. Kit's going to number five, but again, I was glued to the television every Friday night at seven, watching Night Rider. Bucking loved Night Rider. I thought about it ahead of time, and I thought if Kit was on the list, your kit is on the list. Your kit is on my list. I thought I would put it higher, but at the end of the day, I think he belongs in five. It's a good baseline for me. Kit. David. I like Kit. Where's Kit going? You're on your list. Talk about tail spin. Kit. Probably the most annoying character, but that's all right. He had that cool boomerang hover board. The cloud cooker? Yeah. Yeah. The kit clouds on. No, no, we're talking about the Firebird from Night Rider. Oh, well, it's a Firebird. I didn't know that. Here's what I do know. It would be a seven, but Mr. Feeney is the voice, so that's a six. Bumps it up to the wrist. I didn't know that. That is a good reason. Yep. He voiced Kit very, very eloquently. Next in line with what we're playing, Mad Max's car. This was the one I was not sure was going to be on the list. This would be my number one. It's a cool car, dude. This would be my number one. I should have left it open for this car because Mad Max's Ford Falcon is my favorite out of every single one of these that you're going to say. It's my favorite. It's going in number four because that's the only slot I have open, but I want it in number one. Mad Max's car is, I love the way it looks. I love the fact that it's got a supercharger that he can flip on with a switch. It seems like a car that actually does what it does in the movies. It's very little special effect happening to this vehicle and I'm going to get more into talking about this car when we talk about the road warrior, but this car is my favorite one on the list. I love, love, love it. All right. I got a stupid car question. I think you'll know the answer to because you said it's a Ford Falcon and I was like, I thought it was in all of the stuff I saw they were calling it an interceptor and I'm like, is that just because it was a police vehicle? It was called a police interceptor in the Mad Maxiverse or well, it was called. It was in, I want to say even in Australia because you can get the Falcon here. I didn't know that. It was pretty much exclusive to Europe and Australia, if I'm not mistaken. It's been a while since I've looked this up, so car people on this cord don't come at me, but I'm pretty sure this car was not- Come to him, but not at him. Come in me, but not at him. I don't think it was available in the United States. All right. But I think they referred to them as V8 interceptors because I do believe they were used since that engine was used in cop cars and stuff a lot. I mean, it didn't just until you said a Ford Falcon, I was like, Oh shit, when they were talking about interceptor, they probably weren't talking about a model. They were talking about like a police vehicle type of, like I had a Ford, I had a Mustang an 87 Mustang Fox body that was at one that had police interceptor badges. It was a five liter V8, blah, blah, blah, all the stuff, but it was used as a police vehicle at some point before it was shuffled on down the salvage title road to my doorstep. So they will call them police interceptors, but that's not like- The model. Branding from the factory. Gotcha. Okay. All right. Necessarily. I learned something today, which isn't hard to do. Yeah. I mean, that's a cool car. I mean, it's not a number one for me. The other spots I got open are five and seven. I kind of want to put it at a five just because it's a really cool looking car. And honestly, this movie makes it look really, really fucking cool. I don't feel like there's as much magic to it as like, you know, kit or definitely Herbie. But I'm going to put it at five. I'm going to put it at five. Maybe it's because we're talking about Mad Max today, but yeah, ninth car of the list. Michael Keaton's Batmobile from Batman Returns. It's a pretty cool car. And I think it's- I probably like it better than Adam West's Batmobile, but unfortunately all I've got left is eight and nine. So it's going to go at eight right under my seven Adam West Batmobile. About to break your fucking heart. I know. I know what you're going to do to me next and I want to redo my list. Well, based on that knowledge, I know what you're going to do. I have an inkling, what you're going to do. I was saving my one for something else, but it might still be my one, because if it's what I'm thinking it is, I do like that one better than this one. So I'll put it at a seven, Batman Returns, Batmobile number seven, lucky number seven. And last, be Mach Five, oh shit, that's not what I thought it was going to be at all. I thought it was going to be the Batmobile from the Batman. Yeah. That's what I thought. Hey man. That's Mach Five. That's a badass car right there. It is. And I like it way better than- You can send that fucking robot bird out. That's good shit. Yeah. Yeah. Oh man. A robot bird. Give me some sonic. Beep. We can get a black wolf with that fucking bird, man. I said two corn dogs. What the fuck, robot bird? All right. So I had to put that in nine, but I want you to know what my list would have been if I hadn't known what everything was going to be. All right. That's the purpose of the blind draft. Well, I just want you to know. Number one would be Mad Max's Ford Falcon. Number two would be the Mach Five. Number three would be the DeLorean. Number four, generally. Number five, Ecto One. Number six, Kit. Number seven, eighteen. Number eight, Batmobile, Michael Keaton. Number nine, Adam West Batmobile. Number ten, Herbie. A lot about in this imperfect world what was your blind draft? Huh? In this imperfect world, what was your blind draft? Was that your ball drafted? That was my- That was what it would have been in a perfect world. The imperfect is what I've been doing. The DeLorean went first and the Mach Five ended up at number nine, which is not at all where it fucking belongs. That's a spectacular car. It really is. It's got like six hundred, six thousand horsepower. It's a lot. Yeah. It's a lot. Yeah. They replace Speed Racer's skin every time he's done with the race, because it's ripped off his body. It's a postured win. You know what else has six thousand horsepower? Trains. Okay. Like, like, lateral trains, maybe they're more like, you know, ten thousand, but yeah, we're talking about the power to haul. Yeah. Trains. And it's got that robot bird. Don't forget robot bird. Ain't it just do a Batmobile blind draft? I'm sure there are ten Batmobiles. Come up with ten. Yeah. Excuse me. It's got Christopher Nolan's. You got, um, is there a difference between Batmobile? Batman and Batman Returns. Is it the same Batmobile? I think it looks the same, but it's got some bonus features. Okay. That were added after the fact. All right. You got the sixty six Batmobile. Um, the animated Batmobile. Hell yeah. Oh yeah. Batman Forever, Batman and Robin. Yeah. I don't even remember. I don't remember it from, from those. Which one had, which one had the motorcycle that popped out of it? Nolan's did that. No one's did. He could go to motorcycle mode. That was fucking cool. That was cool. That was really cool. It's a good Batmobile. Yeah. That's a good. You know what? I mean, I had to be sold on it. I liked it. I didn't like it at first. That we got a little bit of the Batmobile in the, in the Nolan films. We got a little bit of the back story of the vehicle. Yeah. I like that too. It was just for. Yeah. That was neat. Yeah. How they kind of explained it. I liked that a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I liked that too. I didn't like the style of it. I had to, it really had, it grew on me. Yeah. At first I was like, I didn't really like the, you know, militaristic Batmobile. But I mean, we've had those before in comics, but I don't know. I like the ones that look, you know, like when I was a kid, the ones that look like dicks. Yes. Dicks. Animated series. Yeah. It's the problem. Right. It's a Lexine steel dick. Like we love, we love the alien movies and also Dicks. Let's put some wheels on that. We guys want to talk about Mad Max? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Mad Max. So the road warrior, I just, I don't know if I hear road warrior thinking about that peat and peat episode where they race each other over the king of flawed and king of the road. Right. Right. And that family road trip, dude, that is, look, man, I don't know if I saw all of the adventures of Pete and Pete as a kid, but I probably did. If I didn't, I saw most of them. That is honestly that episode and the one where Little Pete is doing the fucking radio show, those are like the pirate radio show. Those are like the two only episodes that really stay on the line. I think about the one where they tried to stay up the longest to beat the record for how long they could stay up at night. Yeah. I forgot about that one. About trying to stare at the sun. Yes. They would sneeze. Stay away. Yeah. Dog. All right. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Or, or the identity of Mr. Tasty Swirl trying to figure out trying to find his ex-wife to try to tell him who he really is. Yeah. It turned, didn't it turn out to be already? I don't know. I don't remember. Or maybe it was not. Or the inspector, the underwear inspector who also came in, had to defeat him with chicken wings. Yeah. Fuck, man. That's a good show. Mm hmm. That's a good show. But that's not Mad Max. Mad Max. Mad Max. Hit the road. And the road warrior was made in 1981. Same year as Empire Strikes Back. Same year as... No, I think Empire came out in... The third. That's when I was made. That is when I was made camera, anyway. This is a sequel to the first movie from 1979 called Mad Max, simply. Which I have not seen that. I had seen this one before. So Mad Max is a little bit of a slow mover, the original movie, is a little bit of a slow mover. And it tells the story of a, we're on the verge of this post-apocalyptic world, right? And Mel Gibson plays Mad Max, who his name is... So Max was alive in the before times. Yes. Yeah. His name was Max. That's rock. Rock-a-tansky. Really? Rock-a-tansky. Max-rock-a-tansky is his name. His character's name. It's very rocket-doodle. He's a cop. And they patrol the outback area and there's these bikers that cause trouble and they're getting, killing people and taking their stuff and it's just a lawless land and his partner ends up getting killed. And then you see at the beginning of the road warrior, the flashbacks that happen that explain that Max's wife and baby were killed by some biker outlaws and ran them down. That was in the U.S. cut. Okay. Because it was a sequel to a movie that hadn't been released in the States yet. Oh, I didn't know that's how that worked. Which is why it was released here as the road warrior and not as Mad Max 2. Because they were worried people weren't going to go see Mad Max 2 if they hadn't seen Mad Max 1. So in the U.S. cut, they put that in. Oh, I see what you're saying. They put the, yes, because the original Mad Max movie was low budget. It was Australian, 100% Australian. Which, really, all of the Mad Max movies are 100% Australian. They just bring in bigger names as the franchise grows, it becomes more popular and attracts more big stars, of course. But the baby was killed so hard, just like in pet cemetery, you see, baby shoes, a little ball. It's really sad, but it drives Max over the fucking edge and he stops becoming, he stops being a... They get his wife, too. Yeah, they get broke. She's carrying the baby when they run her. They run her down while she's carrying the baby. Yeah, the first movie is like, honestly, it's been over 10 years since I've seen that first movie, but I remember it being a revenge film. Yeah, it is. Big time. And he had retired from being a cop, he just wanted to get away from all this life after he saw what happened to his friend, who was burned. His partner wasn't killed immediately, he was burned, burned, burned, burned. In the post-apocalyptic world. Well, in the first movie. So according to the lore, apparently all this happens right before nuclear war breaks out. It never changes. And nuclear war happens between Mad Max and the road warrior and that kind of leaves us where we're at. That's very different. I don't know how accurate that is. It's kind of hard. I'd really rather just, because there's a number of things about the Mad Max saga that I'm going to try to explain a little bit of. But anyway. Because I really would have thought it'd been like nuclear war 200 years later. This is what's mutated people, nothing left, using scraps of cars and gasoline left. It's pretty much that. I mean, it is that. But it is post-apocalyptic, it's very, but they're out in the middle of the desert. And so resources are slow, they don't know, they just have themselves to rely on and they know how to work the machines and they know how, whatever. And so we get to the point of, so Mad Max has now become this sort of guy who just wanders to Wasteland and doesn't really, after his family is killed in the first movie, he takes revenge, he kills them all. He kills badly. One of them he handcuffs to a car and then blows it up. I mean, it's Fallout inspired on this because he's still a low runner with his dog. Yeah, I don't think entirely. But I mean like part of Fallout was called Wasteland, right? Yeah. So he's driving his car through a Wasteland, just trying to stay alive, I guess, you know, not really on any sort of a mission anymore. He got his revenge and now he just sort of drives around the Wasteland and exists. He's got no thing to live for. So the car that he drives, as we discussed earlier, is a pursuit special and it is a heavily modified Ford Falcon XBGT, which is built on a vehicle originally assembled in the Ford plants in November of 1973. So Ford Falcon was made the year I was born and he gets that car in the first movie. They offer him the car. It's not his personal cop car that he kept in. Well, it is a cop car, but what happened was when he tried to quit the police force in the first movie, when he quit, his boss, his captain tried to convince him to stay and offered him that car as incentive to stay. And he didn't take it, but after his family was killed, the first place he went was back to the police station and got that car so he could use it to hunt down the people that killed his family. So we see sort of a heavily modified version of it in the next movie, which is the road warrior and that's where that car came from. It looks like those pipes coming off the side. That car looks really, really cool. Yeah, he uses that car to run people down that killed his family, but now he's got the car and that's his deal. And so we find him just being harassed by bikers by these waste landers that tried it. The whole deal is take down the cars to get their gas, get their gasoline or their guzzling as they call it. I'm sorry, that's such a weird pivot to go from revenge movie, nuclear war, mutated land that we're doing. Exactly. Yeah. It is strange. It is a strange pivot. But I don't think... Never thought that. I see. I don't think George Miller thought that Mad Max was going to take off the way that it did to the point of someone was going to give him the kind of money it would take to do the road warrior because you can tell the budget for the road warrior is 20 times more than it was for Mad Max, for sure. And it was... he said that he did it the way that he wanted to do Mad Max. Yeah. So I don't know how much that is story, but I know that he said that the road war, Mad Max too, is how he wanted to do Mad Max. Which was impossible. There just wasn't any way for him to do it on that kind of budget. And they still did a great job with the first movie. This movie set... This is one of my favorite movies when I was younger. One of the few kind of movies like this that I was allowed to watch. And Mad Max might be kind of a bad ass, but he's also kind of a sweetheart, right? He's got a soft spot to help people. He doesn't want to see people suffering and he wasn't... He wants to punish... he's still a cop at heart where he wants to punish evil doers and he wants to... but he does it in a way that's not too dissimilar maybe from some of the ways that they are now. But we have him in this situation where he finds himself in the... Appreciate the comic relief character in this movie. Right. This is the gyro-captain. The true hero of the movie. Right. It's the gyro-captain. This is one man, two man gyro-copter that he flies around and Mad Max come into contact with this guy and after some uncomfortable words and he takes him... Mad Max takes the gyro-captain prisoner. Snatches a snake mid-strike. He's about to blow him away and the guy says, "I know where all the gasoline is that you could ever want." I'll tell you, I'll take you there, but only if you let me live. So he says, "Fine," he puts him in change. Mad Max has the best dog ever, the bestest good boy ever. His name is Dog. They got him from a shelter. Not only did they get Dog from a shelter, he was scheduled to be euthanized the next day. They came and adopted him and trained him especially for this movie. And after the movie was over, the camera crew... They euthanized him. They finished the job. They adopted him. Tell it was meant to be. Thanks for shitting right on my warm heartfelt moment. That's what we do, man, lay dukies on heart. So we'll just leave it at that. Yup, they shot him in the face and that was what they did to the dog. It's really cool. So anyway, he sees these sort of waste landers, the camera crew adopted the dog. They see these waste landers riding around this fuel plant from their vantage point up on the mountain and the guy says, "That's where the gas is." And this is the only boring scene, I thought, in the movie. Yeah, and Mel Gibson says, "Okay, we'll do it." It's like all these shots where it's just like cars with dust and it's like, "All right, cars are far away." And they're laying seas to the plant, to the refinery. Refinery is populated by people who are just trying to live and they just happen to be the ones who control it. And they're dressed in white, so you know they're good guys. At one point, all of the waste landers, the bad guys, they go out and off on something together and another group tries to escape, tries to get out of the refinery. And they're run down by some of the waste landers who kill the woman and the man is injured really badly. And they leave him behind, "Well, the Mad Max takes this as his opportunity to get himself in." So he goes down there. He helps the man, takes him back to the refinery and they let him in and they, he makes, they're going to turn him loose. They don't want to have anything to do them because they got enough to worry about these waste landers. We find the bucker gang before that. He already has his own little tussle and shoots the guy in the arm. Yeah, yeah. The guys that had raped and murdered the woman and that had shot the other dude, her friend in the shoulder, he goes down. Yeah, they pin him. They pin him to his car with like a crossbow bolt. Yeah. While they murder and rape this woman, it's pretty fucked up. It's a fucking, it's a bad scene. It's a tough watch. And I mean, that like harkens in the first movie. Yeah. Because I mean, that's like the, that's the scene in Mad Max too that I was like, "Yeah, okay, I remember Mad Max one now." Yeah. So his chaps and rag hole guy, he helped, it's into that, the dog war. He gets into the dog and war and the guy riding bitch. Yeah. He gets into the fight with them and you know, leaves with the guy and takes him back. They're fine. They let him in. They're like, "Thanks. Get the fuck out." He's like, "No. You know, I brought this guy back to you." "Nah, I brought this guy back to you. Give me some gas." And they're like, "Fuck you. Get out." And about that time the Wastelanders show back up led by the immutable humongous, humongous, who was like originally supposed to be Max's original partner. His original partner. Yeah. Yeah. For some of the shots you can see, he's burned. His hair's been burned off. Yeah. He's got no ears. He's got no ears. I mean, they were, he left that open just in case there was like a rewrite and they wanted to add that in, but they did not do that. He's wearing the fucking hockey mask. Yeah. Before Jason. Yeah. This is before Jason put the mask on in Friday the 13th, part three. Yeah. This tells them the people inside the fortress, the, of, that is the Refinery, which is by the way, not at all guarded in the back. I don't know if you noticed during one shot later in the movie, you can see behind like Mel Gibson on the other side of the Refinery. Yeah. It's just barbed wire. They don't have like all the tires. They don't have a school bus drop, really. It's like Robert, Robert's gate, RPG rules. Yeah. Snorlax. Well, we can't get out of it. We can't get back there. Let's have to lace these to the front. But they give them 24 hours is as you've got 24 hours, humongous tells them. It's benevolent. If you, if you leave, just pack up and fucking leave us the oil and the gas. We'll let you live. We'll let you pass safely. Sure. I believe in two. I fucking love that scene, dude, because like this whole scene could have been like pretty boring, honestly, but it is not the scene where humongous is like calling them out and telling them all this stuff is amazing because you're like introduced to this like feral kid with a boomerang who I never saw this movie, it's the first time I saw this movie. And the moment I saw that kid, I was like, holy shit, this is without a doubt, 100% the inspiration for go, like 100% like there's, you couldn't convince me otherwise. Like second group you could be like, no, it's not. And I'm like, you're a fucking liar because have you seen Mad Max too? That's go. And then like, you got the Herald who's like, yeah. You got the Herald who like introduces humongous and then the seed where the fucking feral kid goes like in a tunnel, like a dog, like one kid sized tunnel from inside the base outside throws a boomerang, kills the guy who rides bitch on Wardog's motorcycle and then like chops off the thing. Well, so Wardog freaks the fuck out and grabs the boomerang and throws the boomerang back at the kid, but it turns around and it comes back and the announcer guy, the Herald guy jumps up. I've got it. I've got it. Goes to catch it. It cuts his fingers right. Dude. I laughed fucking out loud and hard before, and then the bikers start laughing. I'm like, oh, shit, evil fuck, all right, it was hilarious. Pieces of cut up hot dogs in the air. That's part of it. That's so good. It's like the effects on it are like. It's hard because it's like on one hand, it's really bad, but it's like on the other hand, it's like, it's such a quick shot. Yeah. And it's like it shot so well, I honestly feel like it was shot for comedic effect. There are a few other practical effects in this movie. God, I can't remember the exact scene, but there's, there's a part in this movie where like a dad dude's face is like, right? It fills the entire screen and it's like, when I saw it, I was like, that was awesome, and I guarantee you if I pause it, when it's like, when it's like, all right, on the screen that it would be hilarious because it's, I feel like this movie does a good job of like, it plays, it plays off a lot of the horrible shit in the movie with like, I don't want to say kitcheness, I don't want to say like, I don't consider this a B movie, but there are parts of it that give off B movie vibes. And I mean that in the sincerely the most, like the best possible way. I feel like these moments, like when his fingers are chopped off, really elevate this movie. I loved this movie. I thought, I loved this movie. How could love not love this movie? I loved it. I loved it. It's, it is, it is absolutely the foundation for me. This why I love cars. Yeah. I love vehicles and things like that because every one of the vehicles in this movie works for real. It runs under its own power. It is a real honest to God vehicle that can function and doesn't have to be pulled or in their camera tricks. And it feels like it, man. They're real cars, that dune buggy that that guy drives at the end, the one that wears the white helmet, that's a real fucking car. And it shows, I mean it really does because it's like, I thought at the end of this movie, the car, I don't like car chases typically, but like the end of this movie is so good. It's so good. And like that whole chase scene is, is fantastic. And it's because it's, there's fucking like crazy stunts happening like one right after the other, right after the other. And it's like, it's 1981, you know, like people are really doing this. They're really people doing it and to lead up to that real quick, I'm not going to get into the whole breakdown of the movie. They, they decide to leave, but they're going to take a tanker of gas with them if they don't have anything to pull the tanker. So Mel Gibson or Mad Max agrees to go get him a fucking tanker, a diesel truck. He goes out to get it. He tries to, he brings it back, but in the process is badly hurt. He gets it back to them and they're like, oh, you know, welcome to the family. Thanks. He's like, nah, man, fuck this. I got you the truck. Give me a bunch of gasoline. I'm leaving. And then he leaves, give me approximately six bottles, please stick, then the, then the war dog runs in down, causes in direct, he gets really fucking fucked up real bad. And they kill his dog, which was sad because dog was good boy. Yeah, they do it off screen. They do it off screen. Which is nice. You don't even hear it really. Yeah. Which is, which is, it's a blessing. It's all the magic. That dog is awesome. He is awesome. But they, then the, then the Falcom blows up. Yeah. And they think that he's dead. He manages to get rescued by no, no other than gyro cap gyro cap and takes it back. So they, they hook up the thing, they hook up the truck to the tanker and they've got, they believe they roll out. Well, you guess Farrow Kid that music box. Yeah. Little plays Happy Birthday and the Farrow Kids are, why does he do you ever see it on a Farrow Kid? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good dental plan at that oil refinery. Well, the nuclear war killed all the black people and all the Asian people, only white people remain in the post-apocalyptic world. Farrow Kid needs braces. It did the plan. What's the out bet? Like, what's the, what's the racial diversity now bag? This is a lot of this question. A lot of... No, Aboriginal people. A lot of Aboriginal people. They got rid of life people. Right? I don't know. Like, I don't know. They're not in it. They're not in the movie. In the newer movies, they do employ a lot more of the Aboriginal tribe, the, the first peoples of Australia are much more widely featured in the newer movies. Before England thought it was convicts. Yeah. Yeah. In the newer movies, they, they, they really go out of their way to make sure the first people of Australia are included. So that's nice. But they, so they leave, they go to take this tanker and they send the, they send the women and children off on a school bus and various other vehicles in the other direction and they ride off and that's when the car, that's when the chase starts, which is the single most defining thing about most of George Miller's movies from the road warrior on up. The chase scenes that go on for 45 minutes, but every single one of them, every minute of every single one of them to me is pure and utter joy. I love it. What did he outside of the Mad Max movies? What has he done? Couldn't tell you. Oh, okay. All right. I'm just curious. But, but I don't know. Okay. So that's what I know him. Well, the reason, the reason I bring it, I haven't seen the third Mad Max movie. I've never seen it. It's called Beyond Thunderdome and it's, it's regarded as the least good of all of the, there's now five is idle and their Thunderdome is fine. Is there a car chase in it? I'm assuming that there probably is. There is. Oh, he's done some good stuff outside of it. So Mad Max, Free Road, Mad Max, Furiosa, Mad Max to Mad Max, Beyond Thunderdome. Happy feet. Happy feet. Babe. Pig in the city. Whoa. I didn't know that. That's cool. Happy feet too. The witches of Eastwick. Oh, damn. That's a good movie. I didn't know he did that either. Babe. The original babe sold the two babe movies Twilight Zone, the movie. Good fucking movie. Shit. What a girl wants. Okay. What a girl needs. The sequel. I mean, a lot of good shit. He's got pretty diverse. Excellent. Well. Cool. I thought the car chase in Mad Max 2, I'm just going to go ahead and say that I thought Mad Max 2 was better than Fury Road and I liked Fury Road a lot. It set the standard. It was the first thing of its kind, honestly. The only reason I'm saying it is because I want you to know how much I enjoyed this movie. It's a lot. I really enjoyed it. To say that I could understand what that means because the Road Warrior is far and away my favorite of the entire series for the same reasons, but Fury Road is fucking amazing. Fury Road's awesome. And Fury Road's awesome. I liked it. I loved it. Man. It was different. There are so many like awesome shots in Mad Max. There's so much in like, this is before digital colorization. So it's like there's a scene where like Mel Gibson is inside the car and everything is fucking red. And it's like, holy shit, this was done with practical lighting and filters. This is like, you don't, I don't know, man. I weirdly felt nostalgic for this movie that I had never seen before. It defined, it was the, it was a definitive movie for the long, I mean, it still is. It set a standard that no one saw coming. It was, it was, it was epic. It was unbelievable. It's still to me. I watched it again today and it was just glued to the set, right? Yeah. I still love it. It still holds up. Man, I rented it and I'm glad that I did because the other option was I could have watched it in 1080p, right? But I was like, man, I think I'm just going to spend $4 because I hadn't seen the movie, but I know that, you know, George Miller has a reputation. It felt like one of those where it's like, I should probably watch this like in high death. Like I should watch this. High definition. The best quality I can get. Yep. And I do think that I, I do think that watching it that way was, that was the right decision. Like I got a, well, I was done and I was like, I rented that for $4 and I should have bought it for 15. I regretted not buying the movie because I would watch this several more times. I will watch it several more times. I've probably seen it 30 times. I mean, I just, I love it. I will never not watch it if it's on. I didn't mention Humongous pulling out his scope. What three? If there was a 357 Magnum with a big old scope on top, but the thing about George Miller's road warrior, Mad Max movies, the, the way they innovate, right, they'd strap things onto things like in Fury Road, the gas pedal of the war rig is a shoe size machine. Right. Because it can lock down, they could stick it under the hook and it'll lock down and keep the throttle going. But I thought that you could tell that all this stuff was cobbled together with what they could find. Right. Everything. And that was what it would be if this were real. Right. It's like your weapons, work, bitch, and fall out for where I have everything fucking scope. Exactly. Yeah. And the scope would do nothing. Chainsaw bats and shit. Yeah. But they, they're going to use everything in some way, shape, or form, even if it doesn't. And I love that scene, man, where he's like, he's got that, he's got his gun in that fucking box that it's like, I didn't know, so I watched, I like this movie. It's the cleanest thing in the movie. Yeah. No, inside of a box. It's like, it's like a fucking magic weapon, essentially, because it's like everything else is dusty, but this fucking box, like when he opens it, it's like red velvet inside. Yeah. I mean, it's like pristine. I like this movie enough where I was like, I want to watch videos about this movie. Yeah. So I started watching videos and like one of the bits of trivia that I thought was really fucking awesome is that Humongous's crew, all of those characters, like, they're all written. They all have backstories. They don't talk, they don't, they don't, they're not mentioned in the movie, but like the actor, it's like, okay, this is your character. This is their backstory. I truly feel like that's like displayed in full force with Humongous because it's like, if you pause the movie where he opens that box, there's like a photograph of like a man and a woman. It's a black and white photograph that looks like it's a World War II. There's like a fucking Nazi war medal that's inside the box. And it's like, this is all part of like his backstory that we're not explicitly told through boring exposition. It's just something where it's like, do you know he has it? Yeah, it's just this feels, it, it, it lends like this living, breathing, like feel to the world where it's like, it's the same when you run like a D&D game where it's like, I should, I mean, I've like, I'll flesh out characters and it's like, no one's ever going to ask, but it's like, it gives direction on like, this is how this character would ask. Absolutely. And it's like, it makes it, it's cool, man. It makes it, it makes it feel like a fucking real world. I love it. This to me was the baseline of any and all post-apocalyptic movies. I always hold it up to, how does it, how does this movie stand up to the road warrior? You know, I love the fact, you mentioned everything was dirty. Everything is kind of, it makes me think of Star Wars because you know, the ships and Star Wars aren't usually like these pristine, clean Star Trek type ships. These are fucking, these ships have a hundred thousand miles on them. They have seen some shit and they, you know, and that's one of the things I've always loved about Star Wars is kind of that real, it's almost realistic in the sense that, you know, if I had an X-Wing, it would probably look like that guy's X-Wing because it's just, you know, we don't need it to look great. We need it to fight and fly and go and, you know, that is what I get from this. And the fact that they use real vehicles, the fact that they, they're art pieces. This is an art movie. If ever I've seen one, every vehicle in that movie is a sculpture every, every, just like every character has a back story, every vehicle has a, is a sculpture and has been handcrafted and dealt with on a personal level by somebody who treated it as if it were an art project and we're going to, we're not, it was just, it is one of the best movies I've ever seen. And I will always, it is always going to have just the special place in my heart. I had one, I had one nitpick about it. It was just like, fuck, I wish, I wish at the end of the movie, like, man, you've done such a fucking awesome job and at the end of the movie, they're like, and the gas was in the school bus. It's like, yeah, I know, I saw it, give me some fucking credit. So we find out if you, if you do a little reading, the, the person narrating the road warrior is an, the old man that the feral child grew up to become to become like the, the elder. George Miller has confirmed that Max in Fury Road is that kid. Really? It's not. Okay. Max. Yes, interesting, because it's like 30 to my years later, whatever, and, you know, shit's gotten way worse, you know, by that point. But yeah, George Miller confirmed that the, that the feral child is Max. He took on the name Max and became Max that is in the Fury Road movie. And it's why he doesn't say much. It's why he only says two or three words at a time and maybe total because the kid didn't even speak for most of his life. Mel Gibson at 16 lines in Mad Max to that's fucking crazy. Two of those are the same line. Yeah. I came for the gasoline. I think is what it is. Yeah. And it's like that blows my mind because I heard, when I heard that trip, bit of trivia after watching the movie, I was like, there's no way. That's true. So it is. It is. It's just the movie. Not as big a goddamn deal then as he ended up becoming. Well, not only that, that is the, one of the main reasons he became who he is, is because of that movie. They pay per word. They'd have a bunch. Yeah. Yeah. They paid him in dog food. You get one can of dog food for every line. All right, make it two. We got a deal because that dog food's good as fuck. But I think, but I honestly feel like that got me thinking like how many lines of dialogue totaler in this movie and it goes back where it's like, this movie does a really good job of showing. Yes. Like it tells the story through the fucking media. The visuals are absolutely stunning. It's great. It really is. Like the way that this movie tells the story is phenomenal. Tyler, we, Dave and I have been over here gushing. What did you think about this movie? No, it's taken. I've seen it. I've seen it. Okay. I think this should be required. We watched it. Back when it's cabin one year. Okay. First of all, so. Well, I think this is required reading. I think that this is one of those movies. Like I try not to get in people's grill when they say they haven't seen a movie. You know, what? What do you mean you haven't seen it? I don't try to do that, but I will, anyone that tells me they haven't seen the road warrior, I will immediately say, I highly recommend you watch this movie because I think it should be in everyone's vocabulary. Yeah. Well, I think everybody knows I'm not a movie guy. Yeah. And I don't, I especially don't really love old movies very much. This is an exception on an on the level like alienism. I'm super glad that is high praise. That's high fucking praise because I love. I love it. I love it. Yeah, that same level. I love alien. I love alien. I fucking love alien. Yeah. But that is an excellent way of putting that. This definitely has a seat right at the head table with alien. And you know, two years apart and they're not far apart at all. I do recommend 30 sci-fi too. If you really, really loved road warrior, honestly, I would say give Mad Max a try. Watch it. It's a little slow and it's almost less dialogue than there is in the second in the road warrior. But it's a good movie and it's a really good establishing shot for the upcoming, you know, the road war. I want to watch the third movie. I plan on watching it anyway. I mean, I don't know if there's potential for patreon bonus up. I mean, I will watch for Yossa too because I did love for Yossa as well. We could do, I would be happy to, we could do a patreon on the rest of Mad Max. If you want because I've seen them all, I have not seen Beyond Thunderdome many times. It was the most commercialized one. It was, you know, very much riding on the coattails of the success of the original Tina Turner's in it of all people. I knew that. She wrote the theme. There's a theme song for it. It's not great. It's not great. It's not great. It's going to shield with a pizza hut emblem on it. Yeah, it is not going to hold up. It doesn't hold the candle to the road warrior. I do recommend it just to get it in there to say that you've seen it. But the redemption song to the Beyond Thunderdome with Fury Road, which is great. I love Fury Road. I could, Tonya and I watched that movie twice this week. I mean, the sandstorm scene and all that shit, he went fucking balls out in Fury Road and it fucking works. Soup to nuts. That gave money. Yeah. Yeah. That pig in the city money. Soup to nuts, that movie was perfect. I fucking love it. That's a great movie. And I like the road warrior more. And Furiosa, again, is good. It's really good, but it is different. There's a lot of dialogue in it, which is weird, but anyway, I could go on and on. I'm not going to accept and I'm going to finish, but I have to say personally about it. The road warrior, five stars, if I could give it six, I would. Whiz and Sage says, "Please, please, please check it out." It is a classic that everyone should see at least once. Yeah, man. It fucking rules. Man, I loved it. I really did. I think it's so... I knew you'd like it. I'm really glad to hear that. I mean, I straight up loved it. And it's like, I think it's such a smart movie that's also like doesn't take itself too seriously. I was so... I was surprised because I didn't think it was going to be as good as the first movie. It is so much better than the first movie. Oh, my lord. And it's like... I love the first movie, but you're not wrong. I don't love... I don't love the first movie. Yeah. I think it's a good movie. It's just... It's not for everyone. It is. You don't have to see it. Right. You get everything you need about the first movie in the first ten seconds of the second movie and that's okay. And I honestly don't even think you need... I don't think you need Max's backstory to really enjoy the road warrior. I mean, it's nice to know it, but there's so much in this movie that's like, damn, like he'd really fucking thought this shit out and I'm like, that's super... I got so much respect for that. In the fact that it looks as good as it looked shot when it was shot, in the fucking buttcrack of the '80s and it's like... Yeah. In the buttcrack of Australia. Yeah. But the cinematography was fucking brilliant. It manages to be entertaining too. It's not one of those where it's like... It's not one of those movies where it's like, oh god, I respect the fuck out of the cinematography. It's also like, oh, this is a fun movie. Yeah, it's fun. Like this is entertained. Speaking of the cinematography, I don't know if you realize this, but I guarantee you that every aerial shot that was shot in that film was from the fucking early bird. Absolutely. But they used that and they had to have. And I think it's great... Because a helicopter would have stirred up too much dust and they wouldn't have gotten the close-up shots that they got without having something small, like drone size. Yep. And I love that they use it because from the aerial shots, you never see the gyrocopter from the air. Dude, and there's like, they even do... There is a wonderful cut where it goes from, otherwise it would have been jarring. It goes from like, god, I can't remember exactly what the setup is. But it's like they're in the refinery, they're in the camp, and then Max looks at the gyro captain who's in the chopper, and then the next shot is an aerial. And it's like, man, that is such a good way of communicating to the audience without just outright blatantly showing it, where it's like, oh, okay, we're getting the shot from the gyrocopter. Yeah. I love it. Yeah, it's smart, man. And I think it's really awesome, like the theme in the movie where it's like, you're constantly... I was constantly being like, because they're contrasting the gyro captain and Mad Max against each other the entire time, and it's like, Mad Max is kind of... He is not a hero. No, he's an anti-hero. He's an anti-hero. He is in it for himself. And like... He's Han Solo. He is. But he doesn't get the Han Solo ending. No. He gets a different ending. Like, I feel like, honestly, this is going to sound so fucking trite and cliche, but the main character of this movie is the gyro captain, because he is the character in the movie that grows. Agreed. He goes from being like a thug who hides and tries to steal to like, a leader of this community. Yeah, he becomes the leader. Well, they echo that in Fury Road with Max, and then Fury Oso is the one who grows and goes on. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. And it's funny, because Max is generally, from that point on, kind of a secondary character, and I will say he's a little bit more main in Thunderdome, but again, watch Thunderdome to say that you watched it, and I need to re-watch Thunderdome. I want to watch it. I'm going to watch it regardless of whether or not we record it. I might watch Thunderdome tomorrow just to get it back in my mind, but, you know, they... So there's a video game called Outlander. You ready to pivot? Pivot? Because an originally Outlander was supposed to be the video game based on the Road Warrior, and they lost the license. It's very obvious. So they couldn't call it Road Warrior. They couldn't use Mad Max's name, they couldn't do any of the stuff, but this game was definitely Road Warrior. It's super shows, because, like, the fucking Game Over screen, where you're like, they show a shot of the car that you're in that's turned over, it's like that is a fucking steal from the movie. Yeah, it is. It's just they put aviator sunglasses on Mel Gibson. It was blatant, which is no secret, that they just lost the license rights to do it, which is... And Outlander is such a shitty choice for a name, like... They had to try to guarantee you this was a holy shit. We got to have a meeting. All right, what are we going to call it? How are we going to fix this? We've already gone, you know, we're sixty-five percent. Gal Mibson's Wasteland. I think, so I got to look up, I'm going to look something up, but it's like, when did Outrider come out? Because I feel like they were trying to cash in on that and also let you know, "Hey, this is a car about where you're in a car." Outrunner is what I was thinking of, not Outrider. I don't know, like, yeah, the Wastelander or something other than just Outlander. That's just... And there's so much shit is also named Outlander. I don't know, I feel like that helped bury the lead to the worst. Yeah, Outlander is how they referred to the adults in Children of the Corn. Outlander! Yeah. Where's our Children of the Corn video game? Oh, that's... it's all stealth, just a stealth game trying to avoid the murderous children. Okay, you know what, I'd fuck with that. I'd play that. Yeah, I'd give that a go. All right, so full transparency, I didn't play this game because I'm stupid and didn't take an hour out of my week to sit down and do it. I kept thinking I have more time, I have more time, I have more time, and then I didn't have the time that I was gonna set aside, ended up getting taken up by work. So I have watched some and played about five minutes of it before we started. So I'm gonna have to defer to you guys for summaries and talk a little bit about it, if you would. Yeah, man. And I have an email, by the way. You wanna start with it? Sure, I can do that. Brad has sent us an email, like you do. He writes, "The hospital food talk was very interesting. I love hearing about stuff I don't know about. As do we all." Also, the story of getting the 500-pound kitchen equipment to Cincinnati was fantastic. Thank you. Too bad. I mean, if you had lived it, I don't think you'd think it was fantastic, Brad, but thank you for that. I actually recapped that one. It's a real road warrior shit. Yeah. It was hit. It's a real road warrior shit. You did some road warrior shit today. You had a flat. You had to change it while you were driving. It's crazy. At one point, did you have a shotgun shell on the hood of the truck? Like Melissa had to get out of the windshield and like… Well, I had my feral child in the back with his tablets. There we go. Okay. He continues. I actually recapped that story for my wife, who also got a huge kick out of it, since today's story. I'm such a sucker for impossible. How are we gonna move this giant thing stories? Brad continues. The March 1993 issue of GamePro has a scary Larry review of Outlander. Hell yeah. Interesting final scores on this one. The game came out right in the middle of my peak SNES fandom, and I have no memory of it. Do you think it might have done better? If it had the Mad Max license, I'm sure we'll get into that, but I'm gonna read the article now from GamePro by Scary Larry, Outlander's the name and all out highway terror is the game. It's 108 years after the apocalypse. The world is a barren wasteland whose only hope is the water synthesizer, an invention that promises to revitalize the parched landscape. Unfortunately, Dr. Beaumont, creator of the synthesizer, is being held captive deep in the Australian wasteland. As a mercenary hired by United Nations, like was this a snake-plisking game, escaped from Australia? As a mercenary hired by United Nations, your job is to rescue the doctor so that he can save the world. Outlander is a one-player Mad Max trademark style car game that mixes a first-person perspective road warrior driving and side view walk-don't-run shoot-em-up action. It is a great concept for a game and the shoot-to-thrill gameplay is fun despite a few control hang-ups. You start out behind the wheel of a car, the forward-scrolling out-the-wind-shield-look paints a nice 3D perspective on the action, which takes you from one meager outpost of civilization to another. As you cruise the roads, Molotov tossing biker dudes and other assorted outback scum try to take you out. To survive, you must avoid road barriers and knock off the bad guys, blowing them out of their motorcycle boots or running them down like traffic cones. Your car comes equipped with a hood mounted machine gun and you're equipped with a shotgun which you use to blast bikers foolish enough to get in range. Although blowing the way the bad guys, oh wait sorry, in your way, if you aim the shotgun out of either side of the window via a slick on-screen window that enables you to watch the road ahead. Although blowing away the bad guys makes for big fun, controlling your vehicle is harder to learn than driving a stick, since you have to use every SNES controller button. When you reach a town, you climb out of your car on a side-scrolling search for vital supplies, you punch kick and shotgun your way through the town, goons, and pick up ammo, food, and fuel left in your victim's wake. The graphics in this game are good but not spectacular, especially in the side-scrolling areas where the sprites are small. The in-car perspectives are nicely drawn, even if they aren't innovative, you'll enjoy the nice catchy down-under-disco tunes and realistic sound effects like the grunt enemies make when they bang into your car. Oddly enough, outlander's slow speed and clunky controls do not detract from its fun factor. There's enough challenge to keep even the most jaded driver going, and there's something to be said for the perverse thrill of wiping people out on the open road. Haven't you always wanted to be the car key to sod? Whoa, get the fuck out of here. Outlander is the answer to your freeway fantasies. Graphics. New steam name, the car key to sod, scores, graphics, the picture of Herbie, and Lindsay Lowan. And Lindsay Lowan, now. Graphics 4.0, sound 4.5, control 3.5, fun factor, 5. Fuck that. This guy, the game pro gave this a fun factor of 5. Yeah. Challenge advanced. Yeah. 59.99, available March. 10 more dollars, and you get Star Wars. Star Wars. Not the same thing. I like the game. I know we're going to be split, but I like the game. I thought it was, I thought it was, it was way more interesting. I love the concept. I love the ideas behind it, and what they tried to do. Yeah. I think the rear view mirror thing is cool. I think the fuel gauge being up there in front of you is pretty fucking cool. Your RPMs. There's a lot of information on the screen. Yeah. And I think that's neat. And when you, they were talking about when you shoot your shotgun while you're driving, the little square at the bottom shows up, and you can. Yeah, L&R that you can. Yeah. So you press R to shoot your shotgun out the right window, and L to shoot it out the left. And it is cool, man. It's like, I've never played a game like that before. I thought it was really fucking neat where it's like, you can see in your rear view, a bike coming up behind you, and it's like, okay, they're coming up behind me. Oh, okay. They're going right. Get ready to blast this motherfucker with a shotgun. And then sure enough, once he gets in range, this little window pops up and it's like, fuck, this is like. And you could go reverse. I've never seen a game like that where you could go in reverse and run over a guy back behind you. I think that's, I think that's really neat, especially for 1992. This is an early Super Nintendo game. It shows that it's an early Super Nintendo game, but like. Good use of mode seven. It is good use of mode seven. I feel like, I feel like the driving portion of this game. It feels like their goal was, okay, road rash, but what if Mad Max? And I feel like they, they nailed that, especially with the tech that was available in 1992. I feel like they nailed that. I even think it's cool that you run out of gas and you have to pull over and you have to scavenge for gas and supplies and health. I think that's really neat. I do think that the side scrolling levels are not the care that was put into the driving. I feel like it's not put into the side scrolling. It's Terminator 2S because it's not as bad, but it's S. What little bit I did play of it, yeah, I had trouble with the side scrolling. It's also crazily unintuitive. I started playing this game ten minutes in. I was like, okay, I understand the driving, I understand the shooting. I'm losing and I don't know why I have a feeling it has somebody with gas because my gas gauge is getting low. So I had to find the instruction manual and look it up and be like, oh, okay, when it beeps, I'm supposed to pull over, stop the car on the side of the road, and then my character will get out of the car and it'll transition into the side scrolling. Hold on, you guys. I've got to get some poison food and chocolate chills and gasoline on this convenient side scrolling town right here. Well, I think it's neat, too, because it's like if you don't make it to a town, you're on the side of the road and you're scavenging for shit on the side of the road, and instead of fighting townies, you're fighting dudes on bikes, and it's like they straight up will murder you. The game is hard. This is a difficult, challenging game. And I feel like that could be depends on what you want in a video game. I got waxed until I watched a video game to cover it or not. No, it was snesterunk, snesterunk. He was like, you got a Mortal Kombat Johnny Cage style, you got a punch nuts, you got a dunk, you got a duck, and you punch nuts, don't use your gun, you just punch nuts. It's all you fucking do, and it's much easier. Yeah, for sure, man. I wish that that side scrolling section had like, even if it were more like double dragon, which I know is like a big ask, but if it was like more like double dragon, all of a sudden it's like, okay, I could see these two, like all of a sudden it's like, this is an enjoy, this would make this, this would elevate the experience. I could see, and you know, I don't care much for brawlers, but I could definitely see that being more appropriate for the, for the scenes where you're not in the car is to be a brawler style, beat them up kind of deal, because you got to fight these guys, they make you fight them anyway. Yeah. But you can avoid them. I was avoiding them for a while. Like the first time I tried it, I avoided all the enemies. And I was like, okay, awesome. And I get back in the car and it's like, oh, I didn't get anything because you have to fight them and like pick the food up off the new guys, right? Hope you don't get their radiated food. You punch the boxes, which hurts you and then like, I hope there's food in here to replace my health. Yeah. Yeah. So that, I feel like that the scavenging is lacking. Cooling concept. It is cooling concept. I, it was almost one of those things where it's like a shooting gallery style while scavenging might have been more appropriate than like side scrolling, even though you're ammo. That sweet rocketeer action, well, I was thinking wild guns. But honestly, this is fucked up, but like even what rocketeer was doing in the shooting gallery, I think might have been better than besides going fighting in this game, which is, which is a real last your powerups and shit and hitting the bad guys being ducked behind. Yeah. A tanker. They throw you food or, you know, as you kill them or whatever. Yeah, I agree. I think that would be way better, which is a shame, man, because I feel like the con, like you were saying, Tyler, the concept of the game where you have to stop and like scavenge. I think that's really cool. I don't think that's the thing a lot of super Nintendo games are doing. I feel like that was the DOS realm at the time. It, it, it felt ambitious for a super Nintendo game to do this. It was because, yeah, I mean, road rash by itself, more gruesome road rash. So like the, the racing, is it not racing? The driving part just felt slow and clunky, but I get it because there's a lot going on. Yeah. Yeah. The frame rate slow. So, but it's not like road rash was, which was exhilarating and fast, but I understand they probably had to make cuts to fit in the scavenging part, which makes sense for the theme that it's, it's a whole lot with, to do a whole lot with very little. It's complicated. Yeah. And I'm not going to sit here and say it's better than road rash or even like comes close to road rash. Road rash is like, there's not as much to road rash, but road rash is like, here's what we are. We're a racing brawling game, and it's like, that's our lane. We're not going to try to do too much. We're just going to try to make that really fun. Here's a cheeseburger meal. That's what it is. Enjoy your cheeseburger. Yeah. Yeah. It's supposed to like, we got a monster sandwich, just a chicken and it's a hamburger and you got fries that are also pickles, but you know, it's just doing too much. Yeah. No, I agree. I agree. It's. But they're trying to capture the essence of the game. I mean, I get it. Yeah. I'm sorry to get in the movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. I think that their heart was in the right place. I like to this game. I don't. It's not one that I would recommend to a lot of people. This game, I know this isn't a segment that we really do anymore, but this is like, as I was playing this game, I was thinking, this would have been a perfect game to rent on a weekend and like, have a friend sleep over because it's like, I feel like we could have got a lot of mileage. Haha. Watch the movie and then play it. Oh my God. That would have been like. That sounds awesome. It would have been a lot of fun, you know. But with that very key information, you wouldn't even know that this game was tied to the movie. Yeah, that is. Unfortunately, you would say, you would say, man, this is a lot like the road warrior. Yeah. It's also one of those weird things where it's like 11 years after the fact, right? Yeah. We're in that fucking dirty, hairy territory. We are. But I also think, though, that, you know, so early on in the lifecycle, they didn't have a lot of licenses to work with. And I think this would have been a great selling point for the game. Oh, yeah. If it had been a mad Max, this is to answer Brad's question. It would have gotten attention. I think it would have gotten a lot of attention. And I think they were doing that, what they did with the intention of saying, we love the road warrior. Yeah. I know you've seen the road warrior. We're going to make that video game. Yeah. You didn't know you wanted. Yeah. And I think it would have done a whole lot better with that label on it. I also think it would be a game that we had all heard of as opposed to a game that I hadn't heard of. Right. Absolutely. And then we had to look up. Holy shit. Right. I feel like this, with its flaws, warts and all, I feel like this game would have been one where people would have looked back and been like, yeah, not all movie games were horrible. Yeah. Yeah. And Max too was okay. Right. You know. And it's a shame because by all accounts, you know, I've read several things about this game too. And I've heard good things from you and from other reviewers. We played a lot worse. And oh yeah. I think you're right. I think their heart was in the right place. I think they were shooting for something that paid homage to one of the best movies ever made. And I think they were really trying to send that love letter and it's a shame they couldn't do that. But good for them. I mean, way to be super ambitious so early in the lifecycle, right? It is really ambitious because it's like, if you press start, there's a map. I saw that. Yeah. And it's like, there's a password save system. The game is fucking huge apparently. I didn't get that far into it because it's difficult. I watched it. Yeah. It was difficult. I watched it play through, but it all is very same Z throughout the whole thing. I mean, it has different levels, but they all look identical. It's the same enemies. It's the same broken up into the grasslands, the wasteland, and it's all the same. Yeah. The ending where you fight something, something that looks like humongous and rescued the doctor and the doctor, the weirdest fucking ending, you rescue the doctor and the doctor is like, I'll take the Raven to the ball. Oh, no, he's gone mad. Well, let's go. Game over. Perfect. I guess let's go anyway, even though you're insane. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Fair to midling. Yeah. Yeah. Now that I've played a much larger scope, I can not have my favorite, but I know there's oh my God, there's so much worse out there. I think it's an interesting game. Yep. I think it's interesting. Conceptually very interesting. Yeah. I wish the execution had been nailed, but it's not. But still, it's a game that, again, it's one of those where it's like, looking at it in 2024, I'm never going to play this game again. Yeah. But in '92, yeah. I can appreciate, like, I appreciate Vortex, like the history and the achievement that was Vortex. Yeah. And what we all know it to be based on, which is the Road Warrior. Yeah. Do you guys have any achievements? I've got a couple that I just sort of lazily made. They're probably not good, but we'll see. My first achievement is Whittless Me and to get Whittless Me attempt to host a show about Outlander having not played it longer than about three minutes. I got that achievement. My second achievement is Road Warrior, be constantly stressed about running out of gas. And my last achievement is Boomstick, more like Boomstuck. And that is run out of ammo, which is easy to do. It is. The shotgun shells, particularly. Yeah. Very easy to do. That's all for me. I've got, I said, do you speak of my language in order to unlock? I said, do you speak of my language? Play this game. Play the Spanish version of this game. Nice. Next achievement is he just smiled and gave me a Vegemite sandwich in order to unlock. He just smiled and gave me a Vegemite sandwich. Punch a guy in the dick twice and he will drop food that you eat. Nice. Perfect. That's it. I've got to, I've got Nairoidex die from eating irradiated food. And then the road cockknocker punched 30 guys in the dick. All right. Different than the cockknocker. The cock. Yes. Very different. Where someone, you watch someone punch a guy. That's where you punch one guy in the dick and then punch the woman in the dick twice. And then go back and punch the guy in the dick. What do you guys think, what do you guys, you want to guess how much it was or do you want to know what flopsie said? What dealer's, dealer's choice. I'm the dealer. That doesn't make sense. I feel like, I mean, one is always going to influence the other. Yeah. Love and marriage. Let's do price first. Okay. One without the other. Price. What do you think it's got? What do you think it's game costs? If you were to buy it. Outlander. It's $32. From Ian. What do you think? Say I'm going to bet because of the whole license dropping that it's probably hard to come by. Yeah. Never heard of it. Never seen it. $45. Yeah. $45. You're just thinking similar to the way I was. Actual retail value of Outlander. For Super Nintendo, loose on average, according to PriceSharding.com, at the time of this recording is $11.9. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Okay. We were a little off. A little bit. A little high. If this had been the road warrior, do you think that would have affected the price? Yeah. I do. I think so, too. So with that knowledge and the scary Larry review, what do you guys think Flopsy has to say about Outlander? I ain't going to say that Flopsy gave it three stars and it is very uncommon. Three stars, very uncommon. Do you think Tyler? Two and a half stars, uncommon. Two and a half, uncommon. I saw it earlier, so I can't play, but I will reveal the answer from Flopsy, aka the ultimate Nintendo guide to the SNS library, 1991 to 1998, but Pat, Country, courtesy of Monster Mold Mike and a mysterious shadowy benefactor. Out to lunch is a game that we talked about a long time ago. Right next to it is Outlander. Someone got this on the nose. It's a three star game, uncommon. Nice. I said very uncommon, but then someone did not get it. Barely missed the nose. Two rule failures. I got close. Three failures, because I had misremembered with your answer. Oh boy, what a podcast. The reflections on this is the Road Warrior film meets Road Rash on Sega Genesis, but it's on the Super Nintendo, so that's a little confusing opening, but it's a Super Nintendo book, so you know. Right. Much like the game, the review, it's a little confusing. Just keep telling yourself that because just keep telling yourself that comma should be there, because that is exactly what this game is. If only it weren't so impossibly hard, it would get a much higher rating, but it doesn't let up from the start. Girl, that's true. That was from, that was from JE from Flopsy. Tyler? Yes, Dave. If you were going to give this game a beer, what kind of beer would it be? A mutated waste lander, dribbling mother's milk, precious mother's milk down his face. Hell yeah, that's a little, that's fitting, that's gross, but also like a little hot. Huge tanker full of mother's milk. Hell yeah. A little bit of that guzzling would be in the business. Tyler, if you were to give this game a pair of glasses, that sums up how you feel about it, what kind of glasses would you give it? A sharp boomerang to the head dribbling blood into your eyes. Nice. Bloody boomerang glasses. Dude, I heard boomerang the first time. That was awesome. I can't believe my brain was never like, yo, homie, boomerang. It's a totally an achievement. Well, I said mother's milk, so you were in the booth at a mine. Yeah, titties on the mine. That never happens. All right, we're doing, that's it, right? Were you doing any other things? What about beards and glasses? Did we just do that? Yeah. Boomerang. The boomerang distracted me. And I get it, man. That was also a sleep. Yeah, we're doing pit fighter next, right? Yep. Pit fighter. Pit fighter. I'm glad you said that. Pit fighter. Pit fighter because we're going to do our last Dark Tower episodes or watching a movie for that. Yes. That would be for. So as another try to double up, what we're going to do, we'll do pit fighter. Do we want to go ahead and roll for the movie we're going to do after that to go and have it? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Seven. Isn't that what you rolled last time? I feel like we had a seven last time you rolled. That's whatever's after Outlander is what we're doing, right? Basically, because yeah, Batman Forever is what I rolled. So let me look, stroll down, we're saving home alone too for Christmas. Or when, you know, if Trump gets elected, I think we should do home alone too. Fair. Because he's in the movie. I mean, it only makes sense. So it's either election day results episode or Christmas episode. So after Outlander, I think, and I think you said you liked this, the page master. The page master. The page master. Trying to call it Colkin. The page was a huge page master kid. He loved it. He watched it on video. I watched it on video several hundred times. It was a cute movie. I haven't seen it in a long time. So I'll have to strangely as many times as I've seen it, I forgot. So I've never seen it. I know we're going to get into it when we talk about the episode, but based on you having seen it a long time ago, do you feel like it is a movie that would translate well into a video game? I think it could. Okay. I think it's got potential. All right. It's very fantasy oriented, very, I think it could work. I think it could work. All right. We'll see. We'll see. I'm ready to master the page. Hell yeah. Yeah. We'll call it the page. Thanks for listening everybody. You can find the show on iTunes, not SoundCloud, not Stitcher, but Spotify, YouTube, all over the goddamn place. We got so much shit going on, but always most importantly is that Patreon. We do have a Patreon. Hell yeah. Patreon.com/tadpog. Get in there. Give us a fucking dollar. Jesus Christ, you guys. That's really good boy. You really let us down. 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Registration is free and we'd love to see there. Thanks for listening, and if you haven't already, don't forget to subscribe to our show so you don't miss an episode. Now, where did I put that stinger? Oh, here it is. Okay go. I don't really fucking grant my gears, I just want to bitch for a second. So on Facebook, I mean as much as already wrong with Facebook, but as a chef who appreciates food, I subscribe to a lot of food stuff on Facebook. The amount of recipes and shit that I see on Facebook and the picture being a clearly bullshit AI generated picture of the food in question pisses me off so fucking much. So would you have? Would you have? So fucking much. Make the food and take your own picture, don't just like give me a random ass recipe and an AI generated image. If you can't even make the fucking food, why do I want to make the fucking food? It's like those fucking talks that you see that are like, here's how to make AI generated videos. Yeah, fuck that like no, especially with food like if, how do I even know this recipe will fucking yield anything? I know you could take a picture of anything. But it's even lower bullshit effort to AI generate an image that is clearly bullshit. Yeah. And I hate it when I see like I saw a recipe for some kind of like peanut butter rice crispy treats, clearly the AI did not understand and made the rice crispy treats out of goddamn baked beans. And that is the picture of some baked bean rice crispy treats and everyone in the comments you're like, so yummy. It made me fully believe in the dead internet theory. Oh my goodness. It's just, it's just goddamn bots. That's it. Yeah, there are no, there are, it used to be there are no girls on the internet. Now it's, there are no people on the internet. Yeah. It's just bots talking about, mmm, delicious baked bean rice, crispies. I'm a people, I'm on the internet. Sure you are. But not Facebook. It's a bit. Sure you are. Uh, Facebook is Facebook like Chrome bots. Oh, just AI generated our recipes. Man, are you getting any, uh, text messages from clearly AI bots or is it probably just me? I haven't gotten the one that I know of. Yeah. Well, I didn't know I'm texting an AI bot, but it's not answering me bad. Didn't share the text with me that he got today from, uh, from a lady. And it was like, oh fuck. So like we spent a good part of the day texting back and forth just like fucked up funny shit to send to this lady and see how she responds. And it's like, dude, there is no way a human being would be like, okay, we're gonna continue to have this conversation, no fucking way, uh, Paul wants to be that shit all the time too when he get weird spam texts. Oh, yeah. Paul corn. Yeah. Yeah. I love those guys that have time to get into fights with, you know, telemarketers or people that are texting or whatever. But I mean, obviously it's a bot you'll never win. But those are always funny to me. Yeah. Just have the time to go the extra mile and drag them down. But then again, I think, man, they're just trying to make a living like I'm being all sympathetic. No, no, I get it. If it's a human, I don't want to fuck with them. But it's like, if it's, I mean, this was absolutely a bot, you know what I mean? Like this was, this was a bot that was texting for sure. So I wonder if you'd sent fucked up responses if it was screwed with its algorithm so that the stuff that it sends to other people is even funnier. Like is it learn from the responses? I hope so. That would be good shit too. Maybe you had an impact on someone else's life by responding in a funny man. It was a negative or positive though. Yeah. It said impact. I didn't specify that. I know. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. It could be, it could go either way.