- Previously on the Over Talking Podcast. - Oh, hey, hey guys. - Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey buddy. - Hey, hey, hey, where's Ken and CJ? - I'll start with this letter from Ken and CJ. - Oh, great. - They are, I was gonna say they're sorry that they couldn't be there, but I don't think that that's true. So I'll just, I'll read this and then you decide. - Okay. - Two cousin Mike. - Pass me. - This is Ken and CJ writing to you from an undisclosed location. As of episode 270, we have been made aware that your borderline obsession with the Over Talking Podcast has led to you committing the crimes of breaking and entering theft, impersonation, public indecency, and staying out past curfew. Per the Cook County Municipal Court, this is your final notice of a restraining order under the case number 6417B. Ken, last name redacted, and CJ, middle, and last name redacted. We've been unable to reach you to serve this restraining order. There will be no additional notices. Failure to comply will result in immediate rest. Warm regards. - Well, that's nice. - Ken and CJ. - Wow. - I don't know how the audio is in jail, but I think it's worth a try. - They have podcasts from jail. - Do they? - Mm-hmm. - Cereal? - I don't think that's a problem. - That's not what that's about. - Some of the bad. - The original podcast. - Well, that's weird. I think I hear sirens, so I'm gonna go. - No, no, no, why don't you just-- - No, I'm gonna go nearby. - No, I'm gonna go. - Come on, no! - And now on with the show. - All right, yeah, thanks guys. Thanks for coming over, CJ. Let me know that he's running late, but he said just, you know, come in, get comfy, and get set up. - All right. - Yeah, I wanna just put those headphones on, take a seat, grab your mic. - Sounds good, appreciate it. - Yeah, I'll be right back. - Thanks, yeah. - Cool, yeah. - Let me see a little bit. - Did that just block? - From the outside? - I didn't think there was a lock, but I, yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe that was gonna be, yeah. - Okay. - All right. - Okay, not too bad, how about you? - Good, don't cross stitch. - Oh, yeah? - I know that scene in Parks and Rec, where he's doing the claymation, and it's like only one second. He's been working on it for weeks, and it's one second. - Yeah, where he's like, gonna depress and do this. - Exactly, that's me. I've done like one square inch, and it's taken me 10 hours. - So, yeah, that sounds great. - Yeah. (bell ringing) - Is that a phone? (bell ringing) - Why is there a phone in here? - They don't have a light. - Oh, it's over there. - What? - It's on the desk. (bell ringing) - Well, hello? - Hey guys, it's your old pal. - Who is this? - Cousin Mike. - Cousin Mike. - What the hell? - Wait, let me put the sound speaker really quick. - Hey there. - Oh my God. - Dude. - It's me, Cousin Mike. - I'm gonna check the door. (laughs) - The door's locked. - No! - That's... - Emily! (laughs) - Emily, help! Oh my God. - Thanks for taking the call. See, I could hear you guys got all set up. Can you hear it? Chris look clear. I'm impressed by the landlines from Cook County Correctional Facilities. - Yeah, you sound kind of weird. - Yeah. - Why are you calling? - You know, I don't know if you guys saw it. There's a new season of "The Bear." And I figured like, "Well, you know what that means? "We gotta talk about it, right? "I wasn't gonna let this whole little beat "and prison things stop us from that." - How did I fall for this? - That was the whole thing. It was getting him in prison so we didn't have to do this. - I have not seen CJ since he got married. - Do you guys know they do podcasts in prison too? - How did you know? I have so many questions. - So Emily's in on this now too. Where is CJ? - Where is CJ? - Oh, that's a good question. I was expecting him to at least visit me while I'm in here and I haven't really like seen anybody stop by. - Well, you know, visiting people is hard. - In prison, you know. - I know, it's like, yeah. - Visiting hours. - It's all the way out there too. - Oh, forget about it. - I mean, it's really right next to the L. You could literally get off and walk about two minutes. Actually, if you guys did want to head down to the LaSalle Van Buren stop, if you waved, I could probably see you from my window. I think that's probably against the restraining order. - Oh, yeah, that, does that apply if I'm in here though? - Yeah, I'm not interested in finding out, frankly. - Yeah, well, that's fine. I should see you guys in a couple months of all these things to keep going well anyway, so. - There is a restraining order. - Yeah, but I'll be out and so then we can hang, and yeah, it'll be nice. - There's no seeing us. That's the thing. - Well, that's what I'm saying. - You'd have to come down to the LaSalle Van Buren stop and wave, and then I guess you guys. - What are we doing here? - What? - This is the worst. - What is this? - It is so hot in here. She turned the air off and locked the door. Hey, try that window. - My God, you're so weak. - I can tell it's not locked, because it opened up a little bit. It's just that I'm too weak. - Oh, geez. - So how you guys been? - I just wanted to do a general check-in, make sure I still sound like this, as though everything's going well. - You sound great, that's why. - Consistent as always. - Love to hear that. - God would love to hear a super cut of all of your appearances, but anyways. - Uh-huh, yeah. So you're allowed to watch Hulu or FX in prison? - Oh yeah, they got that, all the streaming services. - Really? - Yeah. - In your cell or just in a rec room? - No, it's like a, yeah, a rec room. You get, it's like an hour or so. Each day, me and the beef boys gathered to watch the bear. - Don't ask him a good boy. - You're right, let's move on. - Where's the beef boys on? That's my gang of friends in here. - Is it actually a gang, or are you using that word incorrectly? - I guess I would say it's a group of like-minded individuals. - Oh, a cult. What you mean to say is a cult. You're in a beef cult. - I didn't go to college, you'd know better than I ever. - Yeah, that's pretty evident. - Yeah, yeah, he missed that cult 101 class who we all had to take. - Fun course. - Gen Ed. (laughing) - Only in America. (laughing) - I took a women in witchcraft course. - Same thing. - Is that true? - Yeah, that's true. That's real specifically. Yeah, it was great. - With all of course on the sale of witch trials, and that was it? - Basically, yeah. About women who would swallow needles and stuff, and this woman was very into it. She wore eccentric hats and long dresses. Every day. Summer course. (laughing) It was great. She was super weird. - What was the final like at that class? - I think it was a paper. I think we had to read a book and write a paper. - Or is it that you don't really remember 'cause there was-- - Or cast a spell. (laughing) That's what it was. Yeah. And I paid money to take that course. And look at me now, dad. (laughing) - Was that one of the ones where it kind of a difficult conversation to have with your parents who was like, "And this is where the money is going?" - Yeah. So what are you taking, honey? Oh, you know, algebra. English, which girl. (laughing) - Was that the last one? - No, oh, algebra? Yeah. Gonna use it a lot. - It's all for x, et cetera, et cetera. - Yeah, you know how it goes. - That's nuts. I also feel like algebra is pretty late to be taking that. (laughing) - Yeah, yeah, it was. I took all of the easiest math courses because I knew that I was never gonna use it. And jokes on you, I don't. (laughing) There is a calculator on your phone all the time. Sorry, fifth grade math teacher. You were wrong. (laughing) Yeah, that math class was taught by, he was a Chinese guy who, like all of the teachers were there to do research. Nobody actually wanted to teach. And the, it turns out Chinese characters look very much like numbers and letters. So it was impossible to read what he wrote on the board. - Oh no. - But he gave everybody 10 points a day for coming to class. So if you just showed up, you could fail all of the exams and still pass. - Wow. - Yeah, I think he was just like, I know you people aren't gonna use this. This doesn't matter. - I don't wanna be here, you don't wanna be here. - I want to be doing facts and figures in my tiny office in the admin building, please. - There's some pity points. - Yeah, it's 100% what it was. - That was great. - And you went to Harvard, right? - I sure did. - Well, you like to say a college outside of Boston, right? (laughing) - Of course, that don't wanna be pretentious about it. As a woman in witchcraft. (laughing) - Don't let me draw on that extra at that tonight, yourself. - God forbid. - Literally. - So Mike, how's jail? - You know, actually it's pretty great. I should be getting out on good behavior pretty soon. - That's surprising. And as a parent, why did you say that? - Oh, I don't know, I just, I don't know. - Because of the crimes. Like because of the crimes you've committed. - Yeah, I would say, personally I would say crime singular. I think is why I ended up to the year, but we don't have to go into that. - Because that's the only one that they tried you for so far. - Look, I'm not a legal expert. My lawyer has explicitly advised that I don't discuss that matter. But ironically, part of the way to get out, part of my punishment is listening to this podcast. That seems to be-- - That sounds about it. - That tracks. - Yeah, oh yeah. - That would turn anybody straight, for sure. (laughing) - So I'm already kind of ahead of the curve in that point. I can quote most of the episodes. So they're like, all right, we'll carve off about 200 of those. - That is embarrassing. - That's real rough, wouldn't be me. - Listen, I love CJ, but Jesus. (laughing) Ken's pretty good though. Oh yeah, Ken's great. - No, I love him. He's the best. - He's kind of like the voice of the show. - Yeah, he's got insightful things to say, always. - Top two over talking hosts, as far as I've considered it. - Oh, without a doubt, although I love it when Emily's on. - Yeah, and yeah, gotta say our episodes aren't too bad either. - Yay, am I right? (laughing) I hate it here. (laughing) - Do you guys want to hear about an impression I've been working on actually, since I've been listening to so many episodes? - Always. - Sounds good. - Guess who I am. - Hi, CJ. It's pretty good, right? - Well, it could be either of them. - It's tough, it's tough. They both do sit. - Don't help if they start the show by Ken, a dresser to say. - Yeah. - Just say hello to whoever's there. - Boy, tough call. Can it be multiple choice? - Yeah, let me think. All right, so we're going with A is Ken. B is CJ. C is over-docking over Lord Borpo. And D is Emily. - Okay, one thing I learned in college is you always go see on multiple choice answers. - Borpo will not return my phone calls. (laughing) - I've kind of done that. - I've kind of done that. (laughing) - It didn't work out. - It didn't work out. - I think Borpo. - Well, give me that. I just wanna-- - What's the canon? - Number of the episodes. - Yeah, it's the canon. - Yeah, you should know, Mike. - Yeah, probably should know. - No, all right, 10 more years in prison because you can't remember. - I think he did. That sounds right. - Yeah. - Okay, but is it B, though? - I think it's B. - I'm going with B. - Which one was B? - CJ. - Yeah. (dinging) - Yeah. - All right, does that mean the episode's over? Usually there's multiple choice at the end and-- - And then ratings. - Yeah. - All right, and then this is just a note for future CJ. If you can put like a game show, winning noise, where I said ding, ding, ding, that would be great. Good call, it's good. Leaving notes for CJ in post. Where is CJ? (laughing) - Speaking of. - So many more seasons of the barrier you think they're going to make. - God. - Well, at this rate. - I don't actually want to talk about the show, but God, when the 2B continued came up at the end of the last episode, I was pissed. (laughing) - I can't express how little happened. - Yeah. - Truly? - Yeah. - Nothing happened. - No plots move forward, other than the woman spoiler. Have and the baby. - Yep. - And who gives a fuck? - They set up so many pressure cookers at the beginning of the season. Like, she's pregnant. There is going to be a review at some point. You know, they're low on money. - And like-- - So these may be going to leave? - Yeah, and only some of them get paid off. And it's like, I don't even care about any of that stuff. - Nope. - Normally I praise the show and absolutely love it. But in this case, I am 100% with you that nothing happened. - Yeah. - What a waste. And you're right. To leave it on to be continued, absolutely not. - Kind of just annoying. Like, yeah, we know. - Obviously. - We don't even have to put it on the screen. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I wondered if it was like a, you know, they were going to be real nice to be like, to be continued, we're actually putting out 10 more episodes of this season because nothing happened. - Yeah. - Is there going to be 10 more? Do we know? - I didn't want to watch this. So I certainly didn't do any research. - Yeah, probably, right? It's won so many awards. - Oh yeah, no. - For a, air quote, comedy. - Not at all. Not funny. - Nope. - I have said this in episodes previous that it feels like they're letting these not very good actors improvise too much. That it feels like you're trying to be Seinfeld E in the middle of this like very serious show in moments where it's not appropriate to be goofing. - Yeah. - And the relations, okay. What's the big guy mustache? That guy? - Back. - Is that his name? - Matty Matheson is real. - Matty Matheson is real. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Him and the other guy, first of all, where did that guy come from? And why are they? - Is it regular now? - Why are there just like, it's just five minutes of goofs every episode between them that do nothing to move the plot forward. Aren't funny, aren't relevant. Like what, who's that for? Them, I guess. - Yeah. - I would watch an entire season of the pastry chef traveling around Europe learning skills. - Yeah. - That I think is still maybe one of my favorite episodes. - That'd be great. Or can we go back to seeing the inside of a bunch of Chicago restaurants? Can we go back to the focus on making fancy food? Nothing happened. None of that happened. - The one redeeming quality related to that, I will say, is especially in the second episode, tons of very, very beautiful shots of Chicago that I loved. There were actually shots inside restaurants and stuff. Everyone was waving. That was cool. I was very into that. And I especially loved it because that is my friend Amy who shot those scenes. - Oh, very cool. - In the bear, yeah. - There's an Amy here. - Yeah, we should get Amy on the bod. - What the hell? Why do you have me? Oh, yeah, this bose I would do. I'm as you should have somebody who actually was on the show. - So it's like, okay, there are talented local crew working on this show, at least for the Chicago stuff. That is the one point I can give credit to. Everything else, God, I know people like this guy, but when John Cena showed up, I just was like, fuck this. Fuck this guy. I hate him so much. I hate his face. I, God, that was, that put me over the top. I was like, yeah. - I kind of like John Cena and will gladly watch any dumb action movie he is in, but I totally agree. He was like, you don't need him in this. - Stop. - What is he doing here? - Yeah. - I think I'm more and more as I've gotten older in my advance to wisdom. Firmly believe more and more we should be giving roles to non-known actors, like give them a chance. We don't need one of the most famous people to pop in to do a five-minute scene and be like, oh, cool, that guy's here now. - Yep. - Yeah, but if you're the director, if you're a producer and John Cena comes to you and is like, hey, I love your show. I'd love to do a little guest spot. Are you gonna tell him no? - Yeah, you gotta say. - 'Cause that's a wrestling guy, probably fight ya. - Sure, but how will you find him? - Can't see him. - Can't see him. Yeah, I understand why they would put big names and big faces in the show, but it's starting to feel, one of my critiques very early on was it feels like like a college project. It feels like the writing, the writing is bad, the acting is bad. It is, a lot of it is beautifully produced. Oh, I will, and beautifully shot, I'll give you that. But like the further away we get, where it's like, sure, anybody, anybody, come on in. We'll make all kinds of different genres and plots and it's gonna be absolute gobbledygook. Nothing'll get done, but people are gonna love it, right? - Yeah. - And I feel like we just heard from Emily that the reviews say people are noticing. Oh no, please stop. Go back to talking about food and opening a restaurant. - That's good to hear. I was not aware of that. - Yeah. - Yeah, that, especially I totally get you have this ensemble and you're like, maybe we should explain how they know each other. - Yeah. - It's like, yeah, okay, that makes sense to me. Do we need an entire episode to one character's backstory so that the entire season is just backstory? - Yeah. - I think the answer is no. - No, I don't think we need that. - So that's one of those signs that like a, they're running out of content, right? - Yeah. - I feel like a lot of Netflix shows did that like, or just the new black comes to mind where they had entire episodes dedicated to each character of like, we're really gonna draw this one out. You could just move the plot forward. - Yeah. - It's a thought. - We could look to the future of these characters. What's going to happen? - Right, what's currently happening, that'd be great. - Yeah, put some like craft into teaching us about this person through the art of the plot moving forward instead of novel concept stopping down and being like, let's make a whole movie about how Han Solo got his name. Like no one wants that. - $400 million. Leave it to the Brits to make excellent, concise television. Six episodes of season, that's it. That's your get in, we're off the races. Something I have been enjoying lately in my time here is a British show called Slow Horses. That is a like, MI5 spy mystery show. First episode, in the first 10 minutes, mystery is established. The rest of the series solving the thing where we're being the heroes or whatever and it comes to a nice round conclusion. You're like, that was great. I was along for the ride the entire time. Can't wait to see what they're doing next season. Perfect. - Nice, have to look into that. - Yeah, meanwhile, we're stuck with this shit. - Right, at the promise of getting to hang out with CJ and Emily, Emily who has now held us hostage and CJ who has not been present in my life since he got married. I've seen you more than I've seen him. - I know who wants that. - I agree wholeheartedly. It's not the same. - It's not the same. We don't have the same animal magnetism that CJ has that he brings to the table. - It's speaking of the British content that is superior. Have you guys seen this classic movie, "Paddington 2"? I think he's from downtown Abbey or something like that. - I have not seen it, but I know it's critically acclaimed. People love to cry about it. - Same. Yeah, I have not seen it, but. - Do I need to see "Paddington 1" in order to understand? - Not really, but I would recommend it. It's also good. A friend of mine watched them both in one day. - A friend of yours. - Yeah. Actually, I think they did it on this very show. I've heard on the show that they watched the movie, recorded an episode and then watched the second movie and recorded an episode and that was their entire day. - Was this CJ? - Yes. - Ah, you know, we also know CJ, right? You don't have to say a friend of yours. Also, he's your cousin. - Yeah, he's your cousin. He's our cousin. - Yeah, my cousin, the, you know, secondary character of the show. - Ah, so we're back to that old chestnut. - I bring it up 'cause that's kind of what my life has been like lately in the jail. I'm kind of acting as the, you really haven't seen the movie, I'll explain it. "Paddington 2" spoilers ends up in jail. - Ah. - Neither of you have seen this, huh? - No. Sorry. (laughing) - I feel like it would have been real good if he-- - Yeah, probably. - She wouldn't just one of us had seen it. - Do you also wear a bucket hat? Doesn't the tiny bear wear a bucket hat? - Well, not a prison. - Oh, of course not. - He has a lot of prison hat. - Ah, but always headgear, always. - I think he's balding. Maybe that's what's going on. - Ah, well, Eric's wearing a helmet. - Why would you wear a hat if you're balding? - Who would've? - I don't know, I don't know. - I don't know. - I don't know anything about that. Do you guys get little prison hats? - Yeah. - Oh. - Well, so what I was gonna say is I've been working in the kitchen because obviously I have that skill set. - Sure. - Also absorbing it from the bear. That's how skills work. You want somebody to do it and therefore you have that skill. - Wait a minute. Can you remind me of your title at Jeans? - It definitely was senior rooftop sausage guy? - Sorry, one more time? - Yeah. - Senior, no, that senior rooftop sausage guy. - Got it. Perfect. - At Jeans, that was so long ago, man. - That was a long time ago. - Ironically enough, the warden's name is Gene. I just can't get away from this guy. - Wow. - Yeah. - Interesting. - So there, I'm in the kitchen, I'm helping out, I'm making sausages, tell them how to spice it up, how to get that snap. - So you're making sausages? - Yeah, oh yeah. - And you're working with Gene? - Well, I mean, I wouldn't say I'm working with him. He's the warden and tells me what to do. - You guys are colleagues. - You're an inmate. (laughs) - Yeah, your co-worker is Gene. - You're my co-worker, Gene. Best pals. - Interesting. And the sausages, they don't, they don't just ship in boxes of sausages. You're making fresh sausage. - I demanded it. - At the, you can make demands at the end of the day. - Yeah, you know, the petition go in and they were like, hey, if you're gonna do the work, sure, why not? - Kinda meet you gettin' there. - Beef. - Just beef. - Yeah. - Beef only. - We do get some via the beefs. - How's that different? - Oh, it's the best beef. - Is it? - Yeah. - That's the only difference. - Just said it's the best. - High-quality ingredients, high-quality food. That's how it works. - Is Vienna, Vienna, they're the Vienna sausages, right? Vienna beef, is that because of where they're from? Are they from Vienna? What, why do they, is that a guy's name? Who started Vienna beef? - 'Cause Mike. (laughing) - Don't you know everything about Chicago? - It's a Chicago staple. - That doesn't answer my question. - They're Vienna beef hot dogs. That's the, where the beef comes in. It's beef. - I'm asking where the Vienna comes from. Not where the beef comes from. - I probably like to study the broader stuff that I gave back as I had. - You put them, you put it in between a bun and then you put some stuff on it, it's a hot dog. - I am familiar with what a hot dog is. I'm asking about the Vienna part. - You got the tomatoes, lice, the celery salt, the green relish, the mustard. - They're pretty good, you should try them. - Desperately need new friends. - Happy seat bun. - Wow. - I got a friend of the pod, Matt Elanis, for his recent birthday, happy birthday, Matt. - Happy belated. - I got him a glizzy candle. It is a hyper realistic candle that is shaped like a hot dog, a Chicago style dog. - It smells. - And it smells like a hot dog. - Wow. - It is so stinky. I bought it, his birthday's in July. I bought it in March. I had to quadruple, wrap it and put it in a Tupperware in my closet 'cause it smelled so strongly. - Oh my gosh. - All of my clothes smelled like hot dogs. Sorry to all my friends who have ever seen me ever or befriended me for any reason. - Yeah, it was the candle. - Yeah, it was the start of the candle. I went to Vienna and I bought a candle. - Yeah, he loved it. No, I think he threw it away. Wouldn't you? - Too stinky. - Did he at least light it and then throw it away? - It smells like hot dogs. (laughing) - I feel like I'd still be curious. 'Cause I got already smells like hot dog, right? Let's see what happens to that. I like this bad. - You know when you-- - Oh wow, really smells like hot dog. (laughing) - You know when you've been away from your house for a long time and then you come home and you're like, oh my God, my house smells like this. Could you imagine having a hot dog? You have to hold it all day and you leave and come back and you're like, oh, oh my God, please. You have to open every window for three years. - That is a kind of a fear of mine is I feel like any time I leave and come back, I'm like, I feel like it does kind of smell like I've just been used for this. - Yeah, you just grow accustomed to, yeah. - Like, nose death. - Yeah, was that for Breeze? No, what was it? For Breeze had a slogan that was similar to that for a while. - For Breeze, nose death. (laughing) - Yeah, there's something like that. - Nose death is one of my favorite rappers. - Oh yeah? He stinks. (laughing) - Come on, I was asking Eric earlier if he had ever taken any sort of comedy classes and I think the results speak for themselves. - And the answer was no. (laughing) - In case anyone's curious. - I'll be here all night. Perfect. - 'Cause most death, ah. - That's, yeah, that's not even his name anymore. So it's not even, not even a great joke if you can believe it. (laughing) - A mystery, uh-huh. - So what are you hoping for the future of this show? What are we gonna see next time? - Cancellation. - More next story. - We're over talking. (laughing) - It's not our part. - Cancellation. (laughing) - Across the morgue. - Yeah, that's what I meant. What are you guys supposed to see in the future of over talking? - I really like the trivia. I think you guys should do more trivia. - More kin. Two kinds. - More trivia, pretty satisfied, where sometimes there's two questions. (laughing) (indistinct) - I would love to see a little more CJ in this podcast, frankly. - Yeah. - Getting pretty sick of this shit. - Specifically the ones that we're on, that would be great. - Yeah, or can I just come back alone? Will that bring CJ back? - Just say the room by yourself, like, not even Kettering. (laughing) - I've got some stuff to say to that guy, for sure. Yeah, we used to be friends. What happened? (laughing) What did I do to deserve this? - It definitely is not smelling like a hot dog, that's, that's not the reason. - I'm gonna cry myself to sleep tonight. - Yeah, we might have actually just solved it. (laughing) - All right, I'll switch to Yoderon's. - Do you guys remember last time we talked about the future of AI? - Oh God, yeah. - Boy, I don't. - It was like just becoming a thing, and now we can't go away from it. - It's still annoying to hear about, I will say that. - Yeah. - I do, am I delusional? Don't answer that. And thinking that, or like feeling like people very quickly, we're like, this is the future. And then very quickly we're like, this sucks, this tool is garbage. - Yes, not enough people have said that. - Sure, in my opinion, but yes. - I feel like as soon as Google started doing the thing, we're at the top of the search results, it was like, eat a bunch of eggs, if you already have diarrhea. (laughing) Just eat several raw eggs, because Reddit, what trolls everybody in. Have you tried eating an entire box of Crayola Grant? - Yeah, it's like eating glue is healthy. It's like, what? - Oh, thank you, Google. No, no notes. Only when the tool was capable of just kind of categorizing medical questions, it just says, no, I'm like, we're not doing that. (laughing) So seek help. - Thanks, overlord. (laughing) - All right, call me back. (laughing) - I think he's that, I think that. (laughing) - They have ways. I took women in witchcraft. He could use a Ouija board. - So was your field trips like going on a seance? Did you go on a lot of field trips in college? - Yeah. - Big field trip guy? - Does it count if you're just kind of walking through the forest alone? - Nope. - Oh, okay, then no. - Yeah, unless you were, what would be a degree for that? Being an arborist? - Major in Blair Witch Project. - Ah, yes, of course. I actually only minored in that, so I don't know. - That's right. - Yeah, never did a thesis. - Didn't make little sculptures out of sticks and stones. - I did not, no. - We're trying too hard, huh? - Rarely, rarely if ever. (laughing) - So what's your plan? What's next for you? 'Cause of Mike? - Probably fully get promoted to executive chef in the prison. So that's like a strict all beef diets, I think is the way to go there. - That's how you get the promotion? - No, once I have that power, I will enact my vision. - That's great. You know that's real bad for your arteries. So maybe that's a blessing in disguise. - Actually, yeah, maybe we should encourage. - Yeah, good for you. - Get that promotion. - Cool. - Probably be jacked by the time I get out. All the weightlifting, love getting paid. Was it 10 cents an hour worth of my chores? - Seems high, yeah. - Yeah. - And then probably make my way to seeing you guys and get the band back together hanging out. - Okay, your turn. - There seems to be a very key part of this that you're not grasping, which is that we don't want to see you. And in fact, legally, you're not supposed to do that. - I thought this restraining order was just for Ken and CJ, but research. - I had an amendment added to get us on the restraining order. - Okay, that was left out of the episode. - There's been a lot of gray area. Also, there are several other crimes that are still in the hopper for you, waiting trial. So it's good that they're doing one at a time. Maybe that will lengthen the sentence. - I can't believe they made it illegal to party. I mean, can you play my guy for just having fun? - They caught you with 40 pounds of cocaine. - That wasn't mine. - Who's was it? - Mine to be boys, from prison. - These beef boys. - Oh, that's how they're in here too. - Got it, yeah, 'cause you all got caught with an igloo full of cocaine. - If anything, people should be impressed by that. - Sure. - Now we stacked it and shaped it like an igloo. - Listen, you can do anything with enough cocaine. (laughs) - Come on, that's fun. - Make it in any shape. - That's fun. - Sure, sure. There wasn't a great defense though. - Just show you. - Come on, come on, come on, it's fun. - That's fun. - People like it. - You can't tell me that's not fun. - Cops are really amenable to that argument. - Come on, okay. - They're very amenable in general. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, reasonable. - Real good guys. Yep, mm-hmm. - Again, no notes. (laughs) Oh man, it's funny to think about being canceled as somebody who has no fans. (laughs) - Are we talking about this show again? Is that a bear? - Either way. - Oh, okay. - Yep. - What's in store for you guys, huh? - I got a lot of time on my hands. I'm gonna continue to make just immense, incredible progress on this cross stage. I think at this rate, it will take me no less than four years to finish this 18 by 17 or whatever sized thing. Why have I done this? I'm in my 30s. Why am I giving up so early? (laughs) Somebody invite me to a movie or something, please. - I've heard on this show, you don't even like movies. - I don't, but I gotta break this spell somehow. - Do you know that apparently Fall Guy is one of the biggest box office bombs? - Bombs? - Yeah. - It was okay. - I had a blast. - I heard that movie was good. I didn't see it. - Yeah, it was all right. - That's fun. - That's fun. - That's fun. - Come on. - That's fun. - Better than log legs, for sure. Jeez, us. - I haven't seen it. Too scared. - It's bad. - I did like long legs, but I was lukewarm on it more than I thought I was gonna be. - What a thrilling review. (laughs) - I liked it, but not as much as I thought. (laughs) - Which puts it to where? - I think I gave it four out of five. - That's hot. - That's too hot. - Yeah, no, that's too hot. I think it was three and a half. - Not good, and not scary. - Not scary. Yeah, it wasn't great. You guys wanna talk about long legs? - Yeah, all right, let's cut this episode and do a second. Can you call CJ, please? Is he okay? - I would if I could. - You don't have your phone? - No. - Oh my God, she took our phones. (laughs) Oh God, it's so hot in here. - Why do they have yonder bags in their apartment? - Press the lock up our phones. - So weird. - They're big fans of Chappelle. (laughs) Really take it off the roof. - Who isn't? (laughs) - Kinda the dread setter for a lot of things. - Chappelle? - Yeah, I love some of her songs. - She's the pet of Chappelle. - Roan. - She's great, man, do you see those crowds? - Yeah. - Impressive. - I had a panic attack just looking at that picture. (laughs) - I just was trying to think about like, I went and saw Green Day at Riggly the other day. - Thanks for the invite. - You're welcome. You didn't invite me to anything ever, so you're welcome. He asked for people to clap a lot and just even where we were. It's already on a delay. Can you imagine singing hot to go and you are four measures behind because you are so far away from stage. You have, you've just started spelling and they're on to the next line. - I always remember that as this is a very relatable experience but being in marching band and having the drum major is conducting at the front of the field and you're all the way back there and you're like, well, that's not in time with what I'm playing. So I was kind of just doing my own thing. - Sounds like you were incorrect. Sounds like you were doing a bad job as somebody who was a drum major fucking nerd. (laughs) - How did you account for the conducting? - How did I account for the conducting? - You just did your thing and people figured it out. I guess it's not your job. - It's literally your job. - How did you account for the 30 feet delay between you and the people? - Yeah. - You're looking at my hands. What do you mean? There's no delay in my hands. How much weed were you smoking as you were playing this drum? - When I was 15? - Yeah. - Probably too much. (laughs) - Yeah, that's the whole point of having them up there is that you're all seeing the same thing. You're gonna call this out, right? (laughs) - Me, I am so controller to that. - Leave a note for CJ. Cut the last 39 minutes and need 10 seconds. (laughs) - Oh, that'll definitely be shorter than that. You're too bad. - Thanks God. I said some stuff about cops. Cut it, please. - This has gotta be a two minute believe thing. It's just the phone ringing and that's it. (laughs) It's us thanking Emily, the phone ringing and nothing else. Perfect, perfect episode. - Hey, well, what's that? What's that guys? - Guys, sorry. I think the B-boys are calling me. We gotta like make a shiv or something. I can't hear what they're saying. So I gotta go, but I will see you do very soon. - No, that's not how that-- - No. - Fair. - You can't do that. - No. - Maybe it's like a month or two. - Oh, wait. - No. - I give them a lot of time on the phone there. - Actually, yeah. - Isn't it usually like 15 minutes at a time or something? - Also, doesn't someone have to be like paying for this phone call? Isn't that a big thing too? It's like these phones are-- - Who is funding this guy? - I know a guy. - Oh no, is it the B-boys? - That's one of the B-boys. - Oh no. - Oh no. - Spicy, that's the name. - Spicy. - Spicy. - Oh no, spicy. - Spicy. - Wow. - That has a real snap to it. (sighs) - How'd you know it the other day? - Oh God. - Okay, bye. Where is he, what? He's leaving, what are we supposed to do? - I guess hang up the phone, at least. - All right. - So what happens now? (electronic music) - This episode of the Over Talking Podcast was edited and produced by me, the other one who is not Ken. Special thanks to my good buddies, Lauren Schowan and my brother, Eric. The music you're hearing right now was done by the very handsome and talented Justin Peters. See you next week! Love you! Bye!
