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373 - Modern Romance (w/ Patrick Cotnoir)

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28 Aug 2024
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Patrick @cotnoir (ASSSSCAT, The George Lucas Talk Show) returns to the show to discuss Albert Brook’s Modern Romance! Him and the boys chat about Brook’s other work, Patrick’s recent costume purchase, and the bizarre way Brook’s father died.

Movie discussed: Modern Romance (1981)

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- Patrick, can we please have a one-word prompt? - Uh, bean. - Perfect, here we go, three, two, one. - We're talking before the show about you coming to Chicago, but it's when I won't be here. And you did it on purpose, and just found out Ken, you didn't know it was called Cloudgate. - The bean, the famous bean in Chicago. - I'm screaming at my Chicago and title. I did not know that. - I guess you are. - It's the bean. - It's the mirror bean, that's what it should be called. I was like, "Hey, welcome to the Overtouching Podcast "with your host, Ken and CJ, say hi CJ." - I pissed. - Oh. - Why you pissed? - I was trying to be nice to myself earlier. I was like, "All right, I'm gonna have a little healthy snack. "I'm gonna have an apple, you know, apple a day, blah, blah, blah. "And I'm chomping on this apple, "and instead I chomp into my lip." - Oh. - Why'd you do that? - My stupid brain. - You should have chomped on the apple. - I tried. - I'm pissed. - Stupid brain. - Oh, I'm sorry about that. - Good stuff. - Some 41 over there. - That lip. - There my hair has stuck it. - Anyway, this is the show, we took over two dishes and we chose them by our guests, and this week we watched the Modern Romance, the Al Brooks movie. - All right, I feel like we have set another record, let's see, a minute and a half and the guest is shaking their head and ready to leave. - This is pretty fat lip, I was looking for the exit button. - That's... - I feel like this keeps Avidied every time they're on. We get it under two minutes flat. - Absolutely, why don't you shoot some? - Oh gosh, you know this guest says, producer extraordinaire featured in the new hit documentary, I'm George Lucas Colon, a Connor Ratliff story, but you know most of all from a guest on this very show, it's been a few times. - A few times, what is this, three? - Four. - Four? - Not a lot. - Four Patrick, you're a regular. - We did the Muppet movie, we did Popstar. - We did Clifford. - Clifford, we did Clifford. - We loved Clifford. - Yeah. - Since that conversation, I don't think this happened while we did Clifford. There was a Planet Hollywood auction where they auctioned off all of the Planet Hollywood stuff, and if you remember in the movie Clifford, he really wants to go to Dinosaur Land. They stop at a gas station where another family is going to Dinosaur Land. He goes into a bathroom and switched costumes with a child who's wearing a dinosaur costume. You're now looking at the proud owner of that dinosaur costume. - No, no. - The costume. - Yes. - Oh my God. - Yes. - Wow. - That's awesome. - Knowing what I know about you through the George Lucas Talk show, things like that, it doesn't surprise me a tug that you've not heard of that, but I need to know how much you spent on that. - And I'll never tell you. - I need to know. - Look, it was a late night decision, and I made a mistake, and I couldn't get out of it. - No, it's not a mistake. - It is in my closet. I haven't been able to take it out of the box yet because I'm like, I don't have anywhere to put a mannequin. That's been the big problem. - What do you do with that? - I haven't tried it on, but what do you do with a costume if you don't have a mannequin, you know? - Yeah. - The costume is made for Martin Short, right? Like an adult man. Okay. - All right, so it likely will like fit. That's cool. - I guess that's true. - Yeah, you should just be wearing it. Those should be like your settings. - That's true. Why do you be so scared to do anything to it? - Yeah. - They also-- - You just hit the camera safe and peace jammies. - That's what it is. - They were also selling, and I don't think anyone bit on it, and I was so close. I had the conversation I had, is it time for me to get a storage space because of this thing, if I buy it? Is this worth buying a storage space? They had the full-sized dinosaur ride vehicle from the ride at the end of the day. - Oh my God. And it was truly like one of those things where I was like, okay, you can get a storage space for like $500 a month. That's like $6,000 a year. I guess I could technically get a storage space. Like I was really like going through all of the motions in my head, but I did not do it and I do regret it every day. - At least you jumped on something. At least you got something. - Yeah, that's awesome. - That's incredible. - That's incredible. - Mm-hmm. Not to call you out up top, Patrick, but I noticed again you are not donning the over-talking yellow blazer when you joined the three timers club. Did it shrink in the dry cleaners? - Yeah, no, it's shrunk in the mail, which is the weird thing. - Oh. - We wanted to do that. - We did that for a few reasons. - I'm sorry. - I get it. I'm sort of holding out for the five timer at this point now. Like I got the three timer. What's the upgrade for the five timer? - Pants. - Is it a diamond or pants? - Not pants. - Oh, okay. - Ratchet pants. - Yeah. As soon as the pants get here, ideally they'll still fit. And if they don't fit anymore, I'll just say they shrunk again and not that I kept gaining weight. - Yeah. - I will say the pants were originally made for Martin Short, so I don't know if they'll fit. - Oh, this is tough. - Small guy. - Yeah. - Small guy. - I don't know. - We'll find out. - Look, guys, we gotta talk about this movie. So we're gonna take a quick break. - Okay. - We'll be right back to talk about modern romance and more on the over-talking podcast. - I don't think that we should go on anymore. I mean, I just think it's over. - Okay. It's over again. - No, not again. This is it. This is the last time. It's for real. - Don't call me either, okay? - Fuck that. - Very sweet. Thanks. - You two didn't get along. You said it yourself. All you ever did was fight. - It's all we ever did. I'm telling you, we fought and fought and then we had great sex. We never really could talk. - Yesterday you told me you didn't wanna see me. - Cheap talk. - I love you very much, Mary. - I know it. - Oh. - I know you do. I guess that's the same as I love you too. - Sure. - I really wanna see the costume. - It's truly, it's shrink wrapped in a box. I have not even taken that out of the box. I have not seen it with my eyes. - That's crazy. - Yeah. - Send us a picture or email. - As soon as it gets open. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And we're back on the over talking podcast. And once again, by long time, a guest, Patrick Cottoner. And we're talking about modern romance, Al Brooks. Patrick, we're gonna put 30 seconds on the clock for you to describe for someone who's not yet seen. Modern romance, what it's all about. - Ah. - Ready to go. - First of all, I love that you call him Al Brooks. I've never heard anyone call him Al Brooks. And it's really polite. - It's like Matt Brooks. - I truly love it so much. Never ever stopped doing it. I hope this is eating up part of my 30 seconds. It's about a guy. He's kind of a weirdo. He's in a relationship with a lady. It ends because he thinks it's time for it to end. Very relatable. We've all been there. But then he realizes, oh no, I don't think there's anyone else out there. How much more time do I have left? He tries to win her back. He wins her back. - Five, four. - They both kind of suck. - Three. - That's all I need. - What? - That is all you need. That's pretty much it. - God, do they suck. - They both suck. - Before we dive further into this, I've never seen an Al Brooks movie before, which is why I keep referring to him as Al Brooks. - Great. - 'Cause I don't really know who he is. - Yeah. - I feel like I've heard the name Al Brooks before, but I don't. - Have you seen Finding Nemo? - Yes. - He's Marlon. He's the dad in Finding Nemo. - Ah, okay. - He's also, have you seen this as 40? - Yeah, I guess I have. - He's Paul Rudd's dad and this is 40. - He's just perpetual dad. - He's around. He's a guy. - Okay. - He was a writer, director, actor. I think he directed six movies. I want to say six or seven movies. Season one of SNL, he would do short films for them. I think he did like 15 short films for the, he was sort of the original digital short guy, except some of his digital shorts were 13 minutes long and they were about surgery and they showed real surgery on SNL. Just a real weird guy, very funny. This is not my favorite Al Brooks movie. I only chose it because I just got the Blu-ray and I hadn't watched it yet, so I was like, let's get back into it. Not my favorite by any means, but it's not a movie I dislike. I don't think he has made a, I mean, I don't know what you guys feel about this movie. I don't think he's made a bad movie. Out of them, I think they are all either pretty good to great. Even if you don't like him, like this is his persona, but I think this version of the persona is the most dialed up version of that persona. If that makes sense, you know, I think it's a very, you know, neurotic trouble with women annoying, a little bit kind of guy, but this is, this isn't very much to the extreme and so much phone acting in this movie. Yeah, phones are like the fifth character of this movie. Yeah, it's crazy. I'd only, I think seen this movie once and it was probably 15 years ago or something like that. So it was very interesting to go back and, and rewatch it and be like, oh, they're both annoying. I don't like either of them. Yeah, they both are very faultly. See, have you seen this before or any other? No, I, yeah, I was going to say I have not seen any of the ones that he's like written, directed, starred in or whatever. So yeah, but like legendary comedian, they just came out with like a documentary about him, not related to Mel Brooks at all, but. Bummer. Albert Brooks is best friends with Rob Reiner. Rob Reiner's dad Carl Reiner was best friends with Mel Brooks. That's true. There is a connection still. That is a good point. Yeah. Dang. Uh, went to high, went to high school with Rob Reiner had been friends since they were like 13 or something like that. And Carl Reiner is the reason that Albert Brooks like has a career because he went on the Tonight Show and he was guest hosting the Tonight Show when Albert Brooks was a teenager. And I don't remember who the guest was, but they were like, who's the funniest person out there that, you know, and he goes, my friend or my son, Rob's friend, Al Brooks or Al Einstein, because there's really his Albert Einstein. Uh, but when he was like 16, Carl Reiner said on the Tonight Show that he was the funniest person that he knew. Yeah. Albert Einstein. That's his Albert Einstein. Yeah. Yeah. Do you give why he changed it? He did. His father, his father was a comedian in the 50s, who did like a Greek character. Uh, his name is Parker carcass, which, you know, a Greek esque, uh, but died on a roast dais. Did the roast way, did the roast sat down face, face plant. That was a wow. Yeah. Truly the definition of like giving it all for show business, you know, what was it like live or was it filmed? Uh, no, it was that I think that barely hills Hilton, like where they do the Golden Globes. Like it was just like a in person thing in the 50s. I think there's a lot of recording of it of everyone screaming. Well, they all thought it was a bit. They all thought it was like part of the joke. You know, really killed on stage. His brother is in this movie, uh, Bob Einstein, who's the guy at the sporting good store. It was encouraging enthusiasm and, you know, so many different things. Super Dave. Um, super Dave. Yeah. Yeah. That's enough. That's enough monologuing about how it works for you. Also, Melon Brooks, not his real last name either. There's no actual Brooks is in the comedy. The Minsky. Is that right? Something like that. No, can only Minsky. Yeah. Yeah. Less interesting. I, I think favorite characters in this movie are Bob Einstein, the, the sporting goods salesman or the sound effects guys. He's so fun. The sound effects guy is so funny. I think that's what I laugh the most was in that, that scene. Yes. Yeah. This, I mean, it is a comedy. Technically, it is a comedy. Yeah, but I would not say it's funny for the most part. There are moments where I laughed out loud, but it is not, it's definitely not his funniest movies. I think I think his best movies are. I mean, they're all good, but the top three for me are defending your life, which is Meryl Streep. Uh, they die. They, you know, go to a judgment city where they get judged and decide if they're moving on to one spot or the other spot. It's great. Uh, real life I love. It's his first movie and it's about he's a documentary filmmaker. He's playing Albert Brooks. He's playing himself and he's doing the first reality show. And it's following a family. And it's like Charles Groden's the dad and stuff that look, again, Broden, my boy, you know, very funny coming out on Criterion at the end of this month and Lost in America is the other one really good. It's like a road trip movie with him and his wife. And, uh, uh, I don't want to say anything else beyond that, but those three are the top three. I think that are okay. The best Albert Brooks ones. Tang. And Ken chose this one. Yeah, I chose this one. Look, I really wanted to do, I'm a big horror fan. And I was like, Oh, I have to do, uh, the other option was, uh, Epic is telling me Frankenstein, which I've never seen before. There's good time for you. Next time. Okay. Perfect. I was thinking like, yeah, I want to say this for October. So maybe if you're available, we'll have you back. Yeah, I have. Look, you know, I'll save it for the next time. I won't say it. I'll save it. I'm excited. It's the Frankenstein costume. I mean, we'll find out, we'll find out. What I hear, it's not just Frankenstein in that movie. But, uh, no, interesting. Don't want to sit my hands too far. But yeah, we went with this one because I was like, Oh, I don't know who this is. And this was the shortest, yeah, I got it. Yeah, yeah, but it was good. I like what you, it's not a comedy, right? So there's like a black comedy. Is that what you would describe this as? Cause it's like it's played very flat. I don't know. I mean, I think technically it is a comedy Wikipedia. It says comedy romance, which I think is like a camera. You know, there's varying degrees of comedy in it. And I think once you, I'll say this, I think once you die into his thing, you're like, it's funny. You know, like once you get what he is, you're like, it's funny, but it's not, it's not the comedy that I think we're used to nowadays with like jokes per minute. Yeah, you know, there's, there's varying degrees to what a comedy is. That's what I would say. Yeah, it also, it was, so this came out in 81, if I'm not mistaken. And that's right. Watching this, it was like, oh, right. Movies were allowed to be paced this way. Just kind of like living in the moment. Like the first, I don't know, quarter of the movie is just like him alone at his house for a very long time. Yeah, almost in real time. Yeah, living his life, like, yeah. I, there was a moment where I was like, oh, is this, is this just the movie? Like, we're just going to live in this moment, like forever. Yes. And it kind of, it's probably a third of the movie. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it feels very, you know, it's a good LA movie. It feels like living in LA, you know, I don't know. It's, it's interesting. It's definitely interesting. It also feels like you could adapt this to be a play. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And it would probably, it's mostly a one person play, you know, for a lot of it. I like James L. Brooks in it, who plays the director that they're editing the movie for, James L. Brooks, for those who don't know, created Mary Tyler Moore show, created Taxi, created The Simpsons is just like a guy who, you know, has shaped television and movies, directed terms of endearment, just like a real, a real like Hollywood guy. And I think he's funny in this movie. I don't know. He's like, he's not an actor, but I think he's good in it. Yeah. And he's, he hasn't directed a movie in a wild, but he's directing a movie right now where Albert Brooks plays the governor of California. Oh, it's like a, it's like a weird, you know, time, time. It all works out time wise, you know, yeah. Yeah. Cool. No, I think he played the director perfectly. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, obviously you can play that. Yeah. But to circle back to, to the kind of the, the way that the comedy is like introduced, right? Cause like it starts out, it's a breakup and you don't, it's not funny yet. Like, I don't think it's supposed to be because you don't really understand who this character is. And I kind of like the way that they're like very slowly introduce it to the point where he goes then to work and he's like, oh, maybe I could work. No, I can't quite work and it's still not quite funny yet. And then he, he took like two ludes or whatever. Quay ludes. Quay ludes and then slowly starts to get, you know, more loopy. And then I think that kind of help like introduces the comedic moments and also starts to introduce his character flaw is that drive the rest of the movie. Um, and I thought it was really ingenious how they kind of like slow played that, I don't know, that really won me over. This is one of Stanley Kubrick's favorite movies. Wow. You like, you like called over Brooks after he came out and he was basically like, how did you do that? Like, how did you make that? He's, his whole thing was that you wanted to make a movie about jealousy. And he like couldn't figure out how to do it. So then he saw this movie and was like, well, he did it. I can't do it now, which is crazy. You know, there can be two movies about jealousy, Stanley. It's okay. Yeah, not back then. Yeah. I, I also was thinking speaking of like the jealousy and stuff like that. I was like, oh, is this where they invented gaslighting? Is that where this became a thing? His characters suck just constantly any, any reasoning for a flaw. He's like, well, but I love you. It's like, yeah, it's not, it's not how that's supposed to work. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is one of those frustrating things where you, you watch it and you're like, no, don't do that. Yeah. Stop both of you. Like to both of them. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, at least one of my favorite lines is when Alec Brooks to his girlfriend is like, I love you. And she's like, I know you do. And he's like, well, that's kind of, I love you too. Yeah. Yeah, that was good. Stewing over there. We like, say it back, say it back, say it back, please. Just full of a character flaws. Also, OK, the people in their lives, everyone is asking Albert Brooks, oh, how is your girl? How's your girlfriend? How's Mary? How, how are none of them being like, that's good that you broke up. You guys suck together. You're mad to the other guy. Well, I watched this with my girlfriend who had again, never seen an Albert Brooks movie either. And we were both just like, is this just what relationships were like in the 70s, you know, like everyone kind of hated each other and it was like fine. Like, that was just how it was. And I think the answer is yes. I think that's probably how it was for a lot of people, you know, that was kind of, yeah, the era of the like the old ball and chain jokes and stuff like that. That's just thinking like the mom calling Albert Brooks, the character over and over to check on him. And then he's like, well, we broke up and she's like, wait, what? What happened? I'm like, no, mom, say that's good. You should be encouraging that your son is a monster. I think it's, you know, it's like one of those things where you're like, you're not supposed to like them. Yeah, you know, they don't send them up in this movie to be like, no, these guys are. He's a good guy. Yeah. We like them. Yeah. Like you're obviously not supposed to be into what his problem is. Yeah. Yeah. And like the one of the ways they drive that home that you're not supposed to like him is when he goes out on the date with that woman. He doesn't even really know. Yeah. He drives around the block and then just puts her back and on. He's like, actually, I don't think I'm ready to date yet. Sorry. That was a good bit that they eventually just he just takes her right back home. But I also really loved that. Like he sort of acknowledges to her like, OK, I'm going to be honest. At first, I didn't remember you, but now I do remember you. This is going to be great. Let's go on the date and they get in the car and they drive away. And they just drive in silence for a long time. Yeah. Oh, man. And my girlfriend and I did find that building while we're googling. And we were like, where is this? And it's near her old apartment in West Hollywood. We were like, boom, here it is. We like typed in the number on the on the building and just typed in Los Angeles. And we're like, there's only going to be like six, eight, two, six, ohs or whatever the number was in LA. And it was still there. It looks the same. Nice. Great. Wow. My friends and I went on a Ferris Bueller's Day Off kind of field trip being in the Chicago suburbs. Yeah, that's a saw the house where the car flies out of the window and in the creek. Yeah, saw the creek. Yeah, saw the water tower. Oh, I was one of those friends. That's right. Ken and I, my friends. DJ sounds embarrassed that Ken was there. That's just the vibe I'm getting. I don't know. But that was really cool. Water tower, unfortunately, is not still painted. Say Ferris, feel like they should have just. Why would they not do that? Yeah, yeah. And the high school is the same one from breakfast club. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Weird stuff. Weird stuff. We're now watching Ferris Bueller today. No, we're not watching Ferris Bueller, watching Modern Romance. And I have a couple of questions for you guys. So if you're ready, I think it's time for That's right for new listeners. The trivia portion of our show where we pit our guests and CJ head to head to see who knows the most about what we watched. Patrick, CJ, are you two ready? I know who's going to win this. Yeah, I'm going to get a boat. Yeah, Patrick, Patrick's already got a couple of these things. So this is going to be pretty cool. Ask them again. Ask them again. Let's see who they're already gone. They're already gone. You alluded to this earlier, but there's a little bit more to the story. After viewing this movie, Stanley Kubrick called Al Brooks. So he also had an idea for a movie about jealousy. What 1999 film did that end up being? I mean, CJ, I'll let you do this if you want to try from Stanley Kubrick. Yeah. God, I have no idea when his movies came out. That's what I told. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. That is correct. 1999. So, you know, it took him a while to kind of crack it out. Two decades to mull it over. And then he and then he died. So good job, Stanley. I killed him. It's like I've completed my work. I've surpassed Albert Brooks. Nothing left to live for. Mm-hmm. All right. Next question. There's a short text epilogue at the end of the movie, kind of explaining that Robert and Mary got married and then divorced. And then they're going to get married again. One of the best parts. But very perfectly. Mm-hmm. First person is shouted at because the point, but how long were Robert and Mary married for? Ooh, three months? I was going to say three weeks, but I feel like it's a three. Neither of us got it. No, it was one month. Oh, I was a month. OK. Closest without going over. Closest without going over. Either way. Yeah, Patrick is the point. Oh, God. OK. That's it for the interesting questions. It's time for the rad tomatoes tomato score in percentage. Closest without going over. Patrick since you're in the lead, you'll go first to give CJ the slight edge, although it doesn't really matter. Does it? I'm going to say 78. OK, I think higher. So I'll say 79. Cool. CJ, you eked it out. That was very good. Got a big eye roll for best. Our boy. 83% is the correct plus. Good guess, but it doesn't matter. Patrick's our winner. Thank you for their questions. You had to throw out because we already talked about them. Yeah, I've already forgotten what they were. OK, there was a couple just for just for fun. What do you think the letterbox score was for this? And this is, you know, more recent real users. But now film nerds are Albert Brooks nerds. That's my thing is like if you're on letterbox, I feel like you're an Albert Brooks person. I'm going to say 4.2. OK, I think too high, like 3.7. That's exactly correct. See what I haven't checked this in yet. I have any there, actually. Yeah, 3.7. It's if we've CJ is a little more experienced with the letterbox question. Sure. It's like really can't break the four. It's really great to break the four barrier. Yeah. Yeah. Unless it's just like universally beloved. Yeah, but there's always some fmucks that are dragging it down a little bit. That makes sense. Some dumb domes. But yeah, I think that brings us to time for her ratings. For kind of scale of one to 10, what would you rate modern rolling for you? I think a seven. OK, a seven. I think I would, again, put those other three above it. But I like this movie, even if I don't like anyone in it. That's true. I don't like anyone in it. There's I like I like there's people I like in it. I'll say a seven. I think a seven is fair for me. Nice, that's fair. Yeah. What's your what's your favorite moment in the movie? I think there's two. I think just from a oh, this is interesting moment. I like the editing scene where they're, you know, trimming the stuff out of the movie because I'm just like editing. It feels like it was such a goddamn nightmare pre like digital editing, you know, it seems like it was so hard. So that is just like a fascinating thing for me to watch. But I think the sound effects scene is so funny with, you know, the Hulk running down this down the hallway. It makes me laugh so much. And that guy is so funny. The audio engineer, I don't know who he is. I assume he's been in 400 things, you know, but he's he's great at it. Yeah, all of the film stuff, I like, even though it's like it feels very separate from the rest of the movie. Yeah. I almost want more of it. And like, I wanted to see it take into its conclusion. I would watch a whole movie of just that. Totally. Yeah, that having actually like, take scissors, cut the real stamp it to like slice it or whatever. Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he did it with such a like, clearly I've edited it before a kind of methodicalism that was incredible. I don't know. I've never seen that. Well, he probably did edit some of his earlier movie. You know what I mean? So he probably is like, I do know how to do this. I think I can realistically play it, you know. And I really did like the director's reaction of like, see, look, we've like made it so much better. He's like, yeah, that's good. I like it before. I changed it back to just so sad. I acknowledge you, but let's do it the other way. Yeah. Yeah. See, what would you rate modern romance? For me, super unlikeable characters, not that they were supposed to like them. I think that's kind of the point. I can't imagine being friends with these people in real life. I think I would have to cut them out of my life. That would be, I think, insufferable to be around. It is, I feel slow at times, but I think that's kind of a product of what movies were allowed to be and used to be. I feel like we just don't get that too many of these days and my attention span has shifted. But some funny parts, I think like a six overall, like not bad. It does make me want to watch, was it real life? The documentary, like that one I've heard about. And that really intrigues me of like him, yeah, him kind of doing the like mockumentary thing before that took off her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Six. Interesting. OK, nice. For me, I think I'm going to split the difference. I want to go to 6.5. Nice. I actually appreciated the pacing in this. Having like just watched Deadpool Wolverine and like a very modern movie. Yeah. Or just action, action, action, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke. I have a little space to breathe. It was like kind of literally a breath of fresh air. It was it was very nice to bring it back a little bit. And yeah, I don't know. I don't remember seeing a movie quite like this. That kind of unfolded the comedy. Like I was talking about before it really drew me in and I don't know. All the topics are really interesting with the filmmaking. And I was kind of it was felt like it was made for me, but I'm still only getting a set 6.5. I'm bumping into a seven. Oh, yeah, I just took myself into it. Nice. But yeah, no, I really enjoyed it. I'm happy to hear that. Yeah, I need to check out more of his work. Help, Al Brooks. Al Brooks, the Paul Simon special. A lot of them have come out on criteria lately. Real life and mother came out or coming out this month, lost America's on it, defending your life's on it. This one's not looking for comedy in the Muslim world is not. Maybe and the muse is not those are the other three. The muse is fun because James Cameron's in it and Martin's where Sazy's in it and Rob Reiner's in it. And a lot of like directors are in it because it's about this woman Sharon Stone who her like thing is that she's a muse for different directors. So like all these directors are like trying to get her to be their muse because they know that she like forces other directors to put out good work. It's great. It's really fun. Nice. Nice. You get some you get some nice Jim Cameron acting, though, which doesn't happen that often. So that's what you call Jim, huh? Jim, that's the same way you're calling them out. Yeah, you're going to the same thing. So they called him in entourage. It's the person who's the only other. Also probably why I'm calling him Jim, probably because of that. Well, I feel like we blew through this movie. Is there anything else either? If you want to talk about it with Patrick, talk about the Star Wars shows you've been putting on the live reads. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the last May, we did a live reading and all star live reading of Star Wars episode on the Phantom Menace here at dynasty typewriter in Los Angeles. It was a crazy cast. It was Haley to Lozman, Tony Hale, Lorraine Newman, Eric Bowser, Bobby Moynihan, like a real Tony Newsome, like insane, insane bonkers cast. That's on YouTube. You can watch that now at Naboo movie.com. And we just did literally on Saturday when we're recording this. We did the great Camino caper, which was the tack of the clones, a lot of returning cast, but also like Seth Green and Nina West from Drag Race and Deborah Wilson from Mad TV, just like a real wild time. And that when is this going up? I mean, it'll probably be up this. Comes out on the 20th, OK, it should be up on YouTube then. So if you go to Camino caper, both spelled with Ks.com, it'll redirect you to YouTube and you can you can watch it there. And then the next one, we've already announced the next one. If you're in the LA area, we're doing the Revenge of the Sith reading. It's called the most of our takes Los Angeles, because we're following the Muppet movie naming conventions. We started with the Naboo movie and then the great Camino caper. And now we're on Mr. Takes Los Angeles. That's going to be November 16th. And you can go to mrfarla.com and you can live stream that from anywhere in the world or come see it in person. I believe tickets are already half sold out. So nice, get out of people and pretty well. That's awesome. Nice. I've seen snippets on on social medias and stuff. And you have for the Phantom Men's Bobby Moynihan painting his face, red and black, like committing hard had a makeup man and SNL level makeup person come and do his makeup for him. Spent hundreds of dollars that he was not paid to do the show really got into it. It's crazy. It's one of the most fun things I've ever done, if not the most fun thing. And I'm glad that people are checking it out. And if you haven't checked it out, just go watch a couple minutes. Give us the view, you know, yeah, I love that. It's a like button. Yeah, hit the like hit the subscribe to do all that stuff you got to do. But yeah, I assume we're going to be doing those for the next two years. Probably we've got seven more to do at least. So a lot of material. They're wild. Yeah. Yeah. Is this what you like young Patrick thought you would be doing as an adult? That's like, I mean, it feels, it feels so right. You know, it's not something that pays the rent, but it is something where I'm like, yeah, this tracks. He's just for he's forcing famous actors to fulfill his Star Wars fantasies. Yeah, that tracks that sounds right. Yeah. It is. I mean, the most fun ones are the people who have no idea what the fuck these movies are, you know, and they're like reading it and they're like, what is this? What is happening? Yeah, they're cloners. OK, you know, it's just like it's a lot of people being like, I don't know what I'm saying. But, you know, it's been interesting because there's some lines, especially in the Phantom Menace one, where you watch Phantom Menace and you're like, this line, it doesn't work. Like it's not a good line. I wish that rewritten it. And then someone did it in our reading and you go, well, the line does work. It's just the way that you say the line changes it. And that was kind of fascinating to be like, Oh, some of these problems I had with that movie are not script problems. Like they are purely either directional or just like the way you did your line reading that one time. And so that's been that was interesting to me. It's very fun, though. Eric Bowser, who does a lot of the Looney Tunes voices now. He's like one of the big boys guys. He did Jar Jar as if Daffy Duck was doing the table read. Oh my god. And it works so well. You're like, Oh, Jar Jar's a Looney Tunes. Yeah, that makes sense, you know. It's an affair, everything's an improvement over original Jar Jar. No, I disagree, but this also works. This is another take as someone who just saw Deadpool and Wolverine. There can be variants. It's OK for very happy to exist. For sure. For sure. Don't banish Jar Jar to the void. Yeah, you know, it's very, it's fun, though. People check it out. I'm at best. Is that his name, the actor? Yeah, just a very cool guy. The guy who has Jar Jar bigs. Just to try to get him for this. And he was out of town and was truly very disappointed. And I was like, someday, someday we'll get him. Yeah, he did the George Lucas talk show and was great on it. Yeah, he's just a very cool guy. You fit right in. I hope that's more, you know, opportunities to do things. And are you still involved with Ask Cat? So doing Ask Cat every Sunday at UCB, you know, might be streaming soon. People might be able to watch that places. Oh, yes, please. I don't know. We'll see. But yeah, every Sunday night in LA, I produce and book that show. And it's very fun and a cool, I get a lot of cool, weird people to do it, which is interesting to me, you know, more so than just like, here's this. Here's a standup that you see on 27 other shows. I'm like, for this weekend, for example, no, here's the female lead of wet hot American summer, Marguerite Moreau, you know, like people like that are very interesting to me. And that's who's doing it this week. And I'm very excited to see her and what she does with it. So that's awesome. Yeah, that's a lot of stuff, too much stuff going on. You know, I'm so obvious of that. Please blives you. I will be one of the people watching it if that happens. Keep an eye out. Keep an eye out. Sweet. Yeah, anything else you want to plug here? You know, Twitter, @patrocotner, Instagram, @cotner. C-O-I-R, patrocotner.com is my website. It's got pretty much everything that I'm working on. I don't know. Just keep an eye on the socials. I'll say this. I haven't been announced yet, but I'll say there's a show. Georgia was talk show in New York late October in New Jersey. Early November in Chicago, late October. Maybe some other stuff coming up. But if you live in those areas, keep an eye out and tickets will be up soon. Perfect. See it so that I can live vicariously through somebody because I will be out of town, unfortunately, I will be in Japan. Next time that's pretty cool, though. Yeah, see what we got. You can follow us on all of the things at over talking pod. Go to our website over talking about that party. You can type in the word Patrick. Find his previous episodes, email us at over talking pod@gmail.com or call our text of the show at USA Cat 1591. Just go to Google and type in the word Patrick. See what happens. Yeah, yeah. That's all you have to do. If our SEO is working, it'll be the first one. Oh, it's for sure working. Yeah. Oh, I hate this you type in Patrick on Google. The first result is Patrick star is Wikipedia page. I knew it was going to be Patrick star. That's where my head will be. I mean, I can't work on that. Yeah, I can't play book on that. Can't believe that he's beloved. Hopefully this isn't weird for Patrick anymore. But oh, no, they're here. The overtaking overlords have arrived up through our guest. They're the worldly landlords who feel about the end of every episode or my meter mind. You have I put this out of previous episodes that you were in. Patrick, you see, I don't know if I've ever heard this. I've probably just been embarrassed to do it previously because it fits with nothing. It's just a way to do it. And you got to do it. You got to do it twice this time. I want to hear it twice. Go ahead. Do it clean read read there here. My meter mind. You feel like you still going Apple podcast and Spotify and rate review reviews are what help people find as podcasts. Also, we spend in the money and advertising. So if you like to sell a friend and spread the word, we'd really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. It's just a weird segue into that. I don't know. We've been doing it since the beginning. It's really weird. They force us to do the show. I mean, our hands are tied. And I can't like it is what it is. That's right. We signed "Bleece and Blood." Yep. Oh, also the documentary. I should plug the documentary. I thought you might. Yeah. Yeah. It's a documentary about the George Lucas talk show, but also about Connor Ratliff, the performer who plays George. It's about his life and his very weird, you know, entertainment career trajectory. It's on VOD now. You can watch it on Apple, Amazon. I think any of those places. You go to, I'm GeorgeLucas.com and check it out. And then hopefully, ideally, working on a Blu-ray, hoping it comes soon because where the goal is to make it over-packed for what the level of the movie is. The goal is to like put so much stuff on it that you're like, it's silly how much stuff is on this movie's Blu-ray, you know? So keep an eye out for that. I've watched the documentary, loved it. Everyone should check it out. I'll be watching it soon. I've mentioned it before, but I'll say it again. I fell in love with the George Lucas talk show, especially during the pandemic, was really something I looked forward to every time it was on, was like getting to hang out with some friends who have never met me, but that kind of parasocial relationship that all of us love, a big fan. I love it. Thank you. Absolutely. Well, I think that brings us to the end here. So as we always see at the end of every episode, you can call me out. Bye. Bye. This episode of the Over Talking Podcast was produced by Ken and CJ, edited by CJ. This week's special guest was Patrick Kotner from the George Lucas talk show, music by Justin Peters, logo by Nate Richards. Check out Nate's work on Instagram @nateritardsdesigns. What was that? The Paul Simon special. You were calling them out all the entire time. And we got to get you out more, buddy. Man, I got to get more cultured. I know. Dang.