Erin and Stanger reminisce over the last 400 episodes with high lights, what they’ve learned and talks of the future.
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The Dumbbells
400 This is your life: The Dumbbells!
-This is a headgum podcast. -This is Aaron McGown, certified personal trainer and nearsighted. -This is Ryan Stanger, certified personal trainer and wouldn't close him. -You found the dumbbells. -A comedy fitness podcast. -Given it, they're bringing you inspiration. -Motivation. -Sometimes information. -Hey dumbbells, let's get dumb. -Four hundred. -Four hundred. -Toys. We got dumb 400-toynes. -Toynes. -As of tonight, happy 400, Aaron. You look great for 400. -Thank you. -Well, you're not technically 400. You're younger. -I am. -I'm only half that or like one fourth that. -One-third that. -Something like that, we don't know. -But in dumbbell years, yes. So that's-- yeah, it hasn't-- and you've aged well in dumbbell years. -Thank you, thank you. You-- little haggard, little haggard. But yeah, so what do you do in something like this? Do you do a big weird celebration that people that come in and out of the show don't really give a fuck about? It's just like, I don't care. I listen, if they have guests, I'll listen. When they answer questions, I'll listen. And so doing some big celebration, like a New Year's ball drop or something for 400, didn't feel quite right. But it also felt like we should say something about it. And it's a good time to take stock a little bit, give a stay to the union, and talk about some stuff that we've liked that happened in the past. Talk about what's going on with us now, obviously. And then I think we could probably wrap up with a few more ideas about future episodes and stuff we want to do in the future. Keep the party going. We're going all the way to 5 million. -Wow. -Did not talk to me about that beforehand. -The 5 million? -Yeah. -I think I'd pass the note to you about that. We're in studio together. We're in studio together. I passed the note, and it definitely said, "Go into 5 million." -Okay. Interesting. -I might have mixed up a comma somewhere. -I thought I just thought it was financially 5 million. -Yeah. We're going way beyond that. -Oh, no, yeah, baby. Yeah, this is crazy. You were absent for our 300th. I don't know if you remember, and Jason and I did a Webull Wobble episode of Insanity. And if anyone is like, "What are Aaron and Jason like together on a fitness podcast?" Check out that episode. It was, I think we shared a microphone. We did not. It was a mess, Stanger was a mess. -That's good. It's important to remember that Webull's wobble, but they don't fall down, and you guys held the fort down for big 300, we're going to hold it down for the big 400. It's going to be exciting tonight. I've got a lot of dumb things I want to ask you about and bring up. And so that's always white-hot entertainment. You just took a vacation. I want to hear about this vacation. -Vocation. -I dropped it. Yeah, I dropped a syllable out before we get to in the weeds on dumbbell-specific stuff. But how did workouts go? What did it look like? What was it traveling with Baby Sunday? I know. It was a crazy trip we did. We flew into the Tri-Cities, which is, oh, Tri-Cities like up in Washington State. Ever heard of it. And we rented a car. And then we went with part of my family up to this like town called Leavenworth, which is like a little Bavarian town. Very cute. Very demure as people are saying. I don't know if you're on TikTok, Ryan, but people are saying. I have heard that they're saying it. I know she's bummed. She couldn't get it trademarked. I always are. I heard that. Yeah. That sucks. It sucks. People are sharks. Yeah. What a fucking joke. You got to do like us and just like, don't go viral. Then you can get all the trademarks you want. No one's coming for a dumbbell, so it's good dumb. We got that shit. Yeah. We're hiding in the grass on all that stuff. And ready to pounce, ready to pounce, you know, if somebody else does the same thing and then we can capitalize on it. Exactly. Exactly. Um, but so the first kind of, what kind of, what kind of car did you rent? Oh, it was like a GMC SUV mid-size, mid-size, yeah, like a Sierra or a Denali. I think it was a Sierra. Denali's a little bigger. Okay. This was like a, yeah, we barely fit all of our stuff in this. I'll say that. Um, did you like it? I wouldn't own one. I wouldn't. I gotta be honest. I wouldn't own it. It was fine. It did the job. I felt like it could have had a little more pickup, but what I did like was feeling like I had like an SUV. I don't, I have a, you know, Subaru outback, not outback. Well, I have an outback too. I got this full Subaru lineup in my house, but we're going to have an SUV. That's, that's, that's in Preza. Nice. Nice. Uh, for, I have a forester as well. I like it a lot, but it is a little smaller. You know, it's. Yeah. And it's slow. I think being up high is kind of fun. Yeah. But hey, it worked. Uh, the hotel we stayed at first was like the one we stay at all the time when we go to my parents and it has a great gym. I did, um, I did like one day with like more cardio, uh, because I struggle so hard to get my steps in when I'm at my parents house. It is like, they, we just like sit, we sit and we talk. And so that makes me crazy. So I, I go on the treadmill and then we also were like on the little river. So there's like a walkway on the river. So we did that. Me and, uh, Jason and Sunday did that a few times. Um, and then I did like, I did like strength training one day. I'm getting a, I'm getting a plane coming in hot. Um, and because that gym does have a good, like it has like a bench. It has, uh, like the cable machines, which I don't normally have like access to. And I don't know why I'm like embarrassed to use it at LA fitness, but spoiler. I am. Um, so I like get to use cable machines get to get to the bottom of that. I know. You'll do it when you're away on the road, but not in your home, home gym because you're embarrassed. Yeah. It's just like, I don't know a hundred percent that I'm doing it right. Maybe that's an episode we do in the future is a cable machine. Yeah. That sounds good. Actually. I hate you having to travel the wash. She's a careful machine. I know. Um, so I did, like we were there a couple of days, then we went up to Leavenworth, this Bavarian town, which if I had never been there, it's like German food, um, may, basically like. Schnitzel. Schnitzel. I had Schnitzel. I was like, it was good. It's just like pounded and breaded meat with seasoning, right? Uh huh. Uh huh. Uh huh. And I have like a chicken. It's like wiener Schnitzel. It's called the wiener Schnitzel, but they have like chicken Schnitzel and all that stuff, but the hot dog restaurant, the hot dog restaurant just capitalized on the name similarities, but there's no, there's no like dog in a bun, you know, situation with the actual German dish. Interesting. Yeah. They do have like sausages that you get that comes like in a, you know, bun, but that's not the Schnitzel. Interesting. Interesting. Uh, wow. I think we're really onto something here. Um, and so in this town, I just kind of like, I found a salad, I think at one place, but I like vegetables is not like their thing. It's like Schnitzel's bread. We had a, we had a giant pretzel every day. Our family like always whatever we went to the German, do you get my position on the German ones? I feel like we talked about it a while back and you were okay with anti anti anti and ice. I think I still am, but these were incredible. They're better. They are better. They are better. Absolutely better. I didn't know about how good they could be. They're not. The other ones feel like a weird chemically dough thing. And these ones, like there's, there's a pretzel character to them. That's, you know, it's obviously not crunchy, but there's a taste and like they're, like they're crispy on the outside and really soft in the middle and the salt hits you in. I don't know. Dude. Dude. Dude. Come on. Dude. Well, it was like we're freaking cows, like doing a salt like over here. It was so good. Oh, that fucking salt though when you're in very in town on the triceratary of the salt boat on the pretzel boat. And then I was, I was like chief of like cheese, like I was like in, I was in charge. I put myself in charge of like ranking the cheese dips. Yeah. Call yourself chief cheese, chief cheese, chief cheese. I'd like to make an announcement. I'm chief cheese. It was my favorite job that I've ever had. And I love that kind of. Powers dip dip cheese. I don't know. It was so good. Wait. So you, but you were in charge of ranking them. So people just had to defer with whatever order or like you would talk about it. We would talk about it like because, because all of the restaurants had their own like variation on the cheese dip and like the color, the texture, all of it, the taste. All a little different. So I was like, I was, so you were the elected official to make the final decision on which was the best. Yeah. And what, what, what qualities won out as the best? I, we probably won't know the restaurant that one, but you could say this one was number one because of this reason I, the last restaurant we went to, but again, maybe it was the, because it was the last one. I don't know. Recency bias. Yes. It was, it had the most cheesy flavor. Okay. And the consistency was like really creamy and they also gave us the most of it. Some places are really skimmed out on tiny little dip for the German, the German word is stingy. Um, interesting, singe, stingy. I, Ryan's stingy, um, or stingy, depending on where you, how you pronounce it or how you want to, but, uh, yeah, that's, um, that's cool. I mean, you never, you didn't get burned out on them. You tried them at all different places. Yeah. We were only there. Like we were there two nights, three days. So we had three. It wasn't that. It wasn't that crazy. Uh, and then what about, what's the dessert situation? Isn't there like Bavarian cream pie or some shit? You know, there is, I, we got, um, we went to this like little gingerbread company and they had, it was like this specialty little gingerbread store. And so we got a bunch of gingerbread and shared it. Pretty good. With like frosting and stuff. It was really good. Actually, I was really surprised because that's what my boat to, yeah, people sleep on it. And then it also kind of got bastardized into the houses and the little houses that she make around the holidays aren't a true representation of gingerbread. They've kind of been cooked a special, especially to cook, especially I should say, to be able to, you know, support gum drops and shit. Yeah. With stand construction project, this was sound and good. You could put them out in the fucking snow and it, you know, a small, a small candy family could survive out there. And so when you're having the real thing, it's actual cake. It's like. Yeah. It was really soft. It's like a moist cake. Yeah. Really good. And then we got fudge. I feel like you have to get fudge at places like this. We got fudge. Yeah. And he kind of like little novelty town. I think you got to get fudge there, depending on where it's located. If it's close to the ocean, then it's salt, water, taffy. If it's. That's true. It's a little more inland. It's still also fudge. They have to get out. Yeah. You're right. I think fudge kind of. Yeah. It manages to find its way everywhere if it's a little town that sells in knickknacks or something. Okay. Just a quick side note is that all of our bags were sent somewhere else when we got home. So we don't have any of our luggage. And in one of the bags is this chunk of fudge. And I cannot wait to find out what it's like when it gets back to us like, does it melt and go all over our clothes? We'll find out. Can't wait. Was it in a bag that will keep it from going all over our clothes? We don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Don't remember. Don't know. Either way, you'll eat it. Let's be honest. It's Snickers fudge too. So I'm definitely eating it. If fudge wasn't enough, they made it Snickers. What is like, how do you even make fudge? Like, what is it? My understanding is you melt a bunch of chocolate and then you kind of like, melt it in a container that will give it its shape and then you freeze it or cool it and then you cut it. What the fuck? What the fuck is it? I don't think it's just melted chocolate, Erin. Well, I think you put others, I think it was like powdered sugar probably in there. It's got a like a sweet stuff. It's got a thing to it. Butter probably. Butter up in that motherfucker. It's got a thing to it towards not just, it's not just like a brick of chocolate like there's. Yeah. And it's almost even, it's almost even kind of chocolate light. Some of them that aren't, aren't as good like they're too sweet. You're like, there's too much fudge and not enough chocolate or I don't know what, what is it? That's the question. My, my grandma used to make us a tin of chocolate, of chocolate fudge every Christmas. And I would, I'm sure my parents knew, but I would sneak so much of it, so much fudge. I, I look back and I'm like, it's a miracle. I wasn't bigger than I was. I was sneaking fudge. I was sneaking ice cream, whatever I give my grubby little mitts on, I was sneaking and shoveling in my mouth. Yeah, I was absolutely the same way. Absolutely. The same way stealing, sneaking, lying also, um, just completely, um, like I guess I was just completely ignoring whatever consequences I was going to face like it was, it was worth it. Yeah. At a certain point to you, like maybe you could kind of, and they, they may probably knew, but they just let it slide. Yeah. One point. I was like, we're beyond, they will fucking know it's, it's gone from, you know, a half of 10 of the fudge being left to one piece. And so it's out there. Well, I can leave the one piece, you know, just take the, yeah, um, you just completely throw in caution to the wind and, you know, acknowledging the fact to yourself and everybody else that you know you're going to be caught. But there was something there. There's something weird about fudge that I'm going to look it up here. So, so keep going. Yeah. Dry state hung out with the family. Yep. A lot of pretzels. Yeah. So how, how did food, um, sort itself out for you? Were you able to have your fun, but also kind of stay in line or was it just all bets are off? It was, it was not fully all bets are off. Uh, I think I did try to think about like, I have been working really hard on my post baby weight loss and I did not want to just throw it all out the window for just like, um, friggin Schnitzel, but I did not like, I did not track anything. I wasn't like, I wasn't like on a calorie deficit thought. I just tried to get a little exercise. All the hotels I that we stayed at had an option for some sort of like, either had a gym or a pool, something like that. So I tried to take advantage of that and get exercise at least that always makes me feel like I'm trying, you know, and it makes me feel better about myself. It kind of leads me to making better decisions, I think. And we did a lot of sharing. So like we weren't eating a whole pretzel all by ourselves. We would like order one for the table, Jason, I would like a split food. We would always get a salad if one was available. That kind of like we tried to keep that kind of going. That's a good, that's actually a good tip, you know, to kind of success to successfully mitigate, you know, and then still be able to participate in all the stuff you want to do is, you know, looking at sharing, getting veggies when you can. That kind of stuff. Yeah. Food. I mean, at restaurant, because I don't, I don't think we made one meal. Like normally when I'm with my family, like we'll make some meals, but because we were at a hotel, like, and then we like went out of town together, we've made zero meals. Everything was bought. Oh, I did, I did go to the store and buy a bag of arugula to put with the breakfast that came for free, you know, with the hotel we stayed at, because they had like eggs and like cheese and like sausage or whatever. And I was like, you know what this could use is just a vegetable. So I went next door. There was a safe way right next door. I bought a bag of arugula, brought it back, and then I had it with my breakfast. Right. It was just, it made me feel like I was trying a little bit. I also had a little bowl of lucky charms, which I hadn't had in one million years. And that shit slaps. Really? I was, I was expecting to say that it wasn't good. It, it holds up to me. I was like really, it was, it was hotel, lucky charm. So I don't know if it was the real thing. I ate it so fast, I didn't look at the marshmallows to know, but it tasted real and it tasted good. So you, meaning you didn't, you'd have to examine the actual cereal with no box. Yeah, to know. You didn't see the leprechaun. Jeff is real. Yeah. Yeah. They, what would be like off brand? What would be the off brand? I'm, I've had the off brand more than the on brand. Do they, do they just stay in the charm world or do they just do a complete departure? I think they do just like shapes. Just shapes, just like square. Yeah. Then if you turn like the diamond, like bright colored shapes, triangles, circles. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Long, long guy. What is that? Like a rectangle or something. Oh, cool. Um, so in doing the kind of research, are you researching fudge? Yeah, fudge. So I've seen a couple of different ingredients or a couple of different recipes or directions that you could go. But by and large, there's, you know, the sweetener, the sweetened element. So some kind of granulated sugar. And then some of them will say use like a cocoa powder, um, uh, Dutch processed unsweetened cocoa powder powder. And then, um, and then you use like a, you know, milk or sweetened condensed milk and some people use butter, um, but then other people will do mint melted chips in there. Um, but there's usually like a cream element. Um, and then it's like you said, there's a process to cooking it so that you get the right evaporation on whatever dairy you're putting in there. Um, so that like, yeah. And so there you go. Sounds good. I don't know how much I like it anymore. I can have like a little piece and then, but I would always just rather have a chocolate bar or something. Yeah. I would rather have a glass of wine if I'm going to have sugar. I would rather have wine at this point. Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, you're fucking getting into whole, you know, I'd rather have a fucking, you know, Oh, I say that my grandma used to make or something. I say that because I, I had the fudge in the hotel and I was like going to have a bite. I had a little tiny bite, like a bite that, you know, 10 year old Aaron would have like laughed me out the, out the world, whatever that she would have busted you for being an undercover cop. Absolutely. An arc. And so I'm, I had a sort of like little bite and I was like, not worth it. It wasn't worth it to me. I was like, I'd rather have this glass of wine next to me and think about it. Like that is the sugar that I wanted. I didn't want that whatever that was. What about a chocolate bar compared to a piece of fudge? Piece of fudge. Piece of fudge over the chocolate bar. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a plain chocolate bar. Maybe if we have a chocolate bar with like some caramel, like one of the dark chocolate ones from Whole Foods, they have a little like sea salt caramel inside. Yeah. No, those are. Maybe I'm going there. Um, it's a texture thing for me with the fudge. Do you like it when people say it's a texture thing for me? I love it. I love it. People like textures are coming up a lot for a while. They've kind of cooled off a little bit, but it's still, you know, and they wouldn't, and they would people would say, and I did it. I wasn't even realized I realized when I was doing it, I said, it's a texture thing for me. And that was like a fucking dumb thing. Well, I think that's okay if like, I don't like, uh, like soft carrots. I think that's fucking gross. Yeah. Yeah. Texture thing. You liked it. You like crunching a big carrot, like, uh, just a big old horse, like a big old horse. I don't mind cooked carrots or grilled carrots, though. Those are soft boys. See, that's what I, that's what I'm not doing. Can't do those. Have you had carrot fries before? No, I haven't. I didn't know that was a thing. It is. You'd like them and you'd prefer them to be, uh, you know, fry texture. Yeah. Okay. Not a, what's up, doc texture. I would try it. I just hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. Um, fair enough. All right. All right. Okay. So, um, what, so assessing the damage coming back from this trip, where do you feel like you're at? Do you, do you take a few steps backwards? Do you maintain, um, well, I haven't weighed myself. I think that will tell me a little bit of information. I like to give myself a couple of days after a vacation of just like letting, you know, the water that I'm, I'm like, for sure am retaining to dissipate to give myself a few days of eating like what I, how I normally eat to just like let my body just like kind of chill. Sure. And then I'll, I'll step on a scale in a few days and see what that damage is. Um, but overall I feel pretty good. I kept my water up. I ate my veggies. I didn't go too crazy, but I probably, probably gained a few pounds back, but nothing, nothing a week of trying again won't, won't correct. So fair enough fair enough fair enough fair. I, uh, on my end, thank you for asking. Um, I, I have more to say. Do you have more to say? No, I mean always. The answer is always, but no, let's hear about you. Nothing exciting. Well, probably why it was fair to not ask, um, wow, Ryan's doing the same thing. Interesting. Um, but, uh, you know, we have, um, well, I'll save it for, for later in this episode, but, um, because we're planning on doing something with a fun guest. And so that's on the horizon and we'll tease a little bit of it. Um, but, uh, so there's that, there's something and I'll, I'll, I could, I could tease it like this, it's something we both are interested in trying. Um, but I, uh, kind of like jacked up the cardio a little bit. Um, I had like, uh, some, you know, injury stuff I was kind of working through. And so that was a little maddening because I felt like I was getting right onto a good role and then, um, you know, classic injury stuff pops up and we've done a bunch of episodes about it and comes up with guests a lot. And so it's surprising even with talking to you guys, the listeners, Aaron and different guests, I still have to remind myself of all the people of all the things that we would tell people in regards to that stuff. So it was, it was just interesting and kind of humbling to be faced with it and be like, Oh, you have to listen to yourself. You feel like an idiot? That's the worst, that's the worst dude. Yeah. - Her child is close though, all right? Sure, you gotta do this, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. And then, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do And then that's like Larry David's Bernie Sanders, but yeah, so I would say probably I noticed and had to make some adjustments like right after we did the water workout episode. So yeah, so I was kind of feeling stuff and then, but just to give you guys a quick little oversight and maybe a refresher, what, you know, one of the things I did do was just assess what I could do. And so I had some limitations and is very tempting to say, okay, I was, you know, at this level I really liked being at, maybe even more than I realized, you know, until it was kind of taken away. And so that was frustrating and I did have an instinct to be like, I just, if I can't work out like that, it's someone to do anything. - Really had that thought for real? - Yeah, I mean, it was definitely in there. I wasn't like as inspired to go work out and it wasn't like it was gonna run me, but it definitely kind of popped in there and I understood that feeling of it. And it also made me not want to take my, whatever I could do is serious, you know, like, well, I'll just kind of show up and go through the motions. And so what I did was I just took a close stock and said, well, what, be honest, what can you do and let's do that, you know, fill that cup up as high as it can go there. And so that was really helpful in maintaining some self-efficacy and stay on kind of, you know, at least maintain. And then also sometimes you can surprise yourself, obviously don't, you know, don't do something that's going to injure you, but you can surprise yourself. And so that felt pretty good and I'm already kind of, you know, improved now and coming out the other side of it to some degree. So, so that was, that was an interesting kind of setback. And also, you know, I wonder too, like, how much do I adjust my eating while I'm going through this because I had been trying to up my protein because I had, you know, dropped some weight and some muscle. And so I was like, now that I'm not able to lift quite as hard, do I adjust or do I maintain and I don't know, I didn't ultimately solve that conundrum. I don't know where I'd land on that side, that issue now, because it was kind of, it's kind of hard to maintain that eating and I didn't feel as motivated to do it. So maybe I've just, what I'm basically saying is I just use that as an excuse to eat less. And I was telling myself, like, well, you're not doing this, technically you're not doing as much stuff. So you probably could. And that's not to say I didn't get down and have food. It's not one of those weird things to where no matter what I do, I can't gain weight. It's just like I've been eating like a, like a very unique way to, that's a, was a little bit out of my comfort and kind of timing zone to support some muscle building I was trying to achieve. And so I guess I gave myself a break on that for a while because I didn't feel like I needed a calories as much. So I don't know, maybe it's more of a compromise and a strategy, but because, you know, there may. To me, honestly, you're, you're, you're finding your way with the workouts that you can do. And then I don't, I really actually think that that's a good point that your, your fuel, your food can adjust based on your activity, what you're able to do and not to feel like, like it sounds like you kind of were a little intuitive, intuitively eating for yourself because you didn't feel like you needed those extra calories during a time where you couldn't do what you had been doing. Yeah. I mean, that's a good, I like that spin. We'll take that. I mean, I do put that out on Instagram for me. That's a hard, that was hard for me when, you know, I was pregnant and eating and then not pregnant anymore had the baby and then had to readjust like you just, it's a, it's not to say him, obviously, but it's, but it's the, the being willing and able to kind of assess your, your physical need for food instead of just what you normally do. And, and that I think is those are hard adjustment periods. And I do think that's when people can see things, maybe go in a direction that they don't want it to go pro or con, you know, like, it can be, it can be hard either direction of the scale. So. Yeah, man, I get you. That makes sense. It's a little, it's fun to my advantage a little bit. That's why I like it. That's why my team's going to run with, he wanted to break up. So. He's intuitively eating. He said, wow, so he managed to intuitively eat, not just be lazy about it. So yeah, so that was, you know, that's, so that's been kind of presented an interesting set of challenges, but you know, you learn, you come out of it, you learn more about yourself. You also start to prioritize things in your workout. As you can trim part in the puns, some fat, you know, if you're doing extra things or things that weren't necessary, I said pardon, I didn't say I liked it or that it was good or any of that stuff, I, I excused myself from it, but yeah, so that's, you know, trimming the fat in the sense of, you know, sometimes you start working out for your mind and doing a bunch of things that maybe aren't necessary for optimized fitness or health and, you know, having to be really mindful about what you're doing for exercise can maybe cause, you know, give you a chance to kind of pause and examine that stuff and, you know, pick what's necessary. And then over time, it's like a snowball rolling down the hill and over time you'll pick up a bunch of that stuff again and yeah, I mean, you're talking to, you know, people that have freaking kids, they're struggling to like find 20 minutes to get a workout in. That's like trimming the fat to like get a tiny workout to figure out what matters to you when you're on vacation and you're like, do I care about steps or do I care about muscles? Because I only got time for one, I don't have time to just be hanging out. It's, it's a part of life. Hey, what is a part of life, dude? It's, uh, I was trying to think of like a facts of life parody song that a part of life, a part of life to take the steps or lift the weights, uh, I don't know, all I can hear is a fart of life. That's all I can hear. That's pretty strong. Um, Alan thick, Alan thick wrote that song. Really? Yeah. It's like he wrote tons of, um, sitcom songs and like had a music career and, um, was super dead. Well, son does songs. Yeah. Rob and thick, um, musician, you know, had a, definitely had a moment there was a big pop star kind of, I guess still for a while, um, but yeah, Alan thick was an obviously super talented and he, uh, he also wrote the original theme song to, um, Wheel of Fortune. Oh. Um, yeah. And then the guy that created Wheel of Fortune, he's a famous TV, you know, scumbag. I can't think of what his name is, but he, he changed it because he didn't want to have to pay royalties on the song forever. And so they just, you know, yeah, and it was one of those things like, how much money do you need? Does it really matter? Yeah. If you make a hundred billion or 98 billion or million or whatever, you know, it's literally like it would be like, I mean, it would all go to Alan thick, but it's not, it's not like it's going to affect that guy's bottom line. Like why not just let everybody that worked on it, share in the profit? But, uh, that's a story for another day, another day TV corner is closed up. Um, that's all we got, but, uh, yeah. So that's all, you know, so I'll keep people posted as to how that stuff is going. Um, I think we've solved the fudge debate. Let me ask you this, uh, ultimately I won chocolate bar better. Interesting. Um, yeah, you are the chief cheese, but you're not chief chocolate, um, okay. So for you, then we can, we can talk about some 400 episode stuff, but, uh, what do you think? So we're, with your mind, where did you feel like you were struggling the most? Did you feel like you were fucking up by not doing steps or did you feel like you were fucking up by not lifting, um, like what pole that you're like, Oh, I, I gotta get, is it like having to see the 10,000 or whatever your goal was on the watch? Is that really important or is it the weights or even if it's not logical? Like what? Yeah, the steps really get me the, that they really do, um, however, I will say it's like kind of like a, it's like, um, it's like a level, like a, a leveler that you would like use to check your pictures that you're hanging in your house. Like it's like a couple of days bubble level, yeah, a little bubble level where it's like a couple of days where I'm like, okay, gotta get my steps. Like who cares about the strength training? I just want to like get cardio in. And then like by day three, I'm like, Oh my gosh, I miss my weights and then I like go back to like weights and then I like see like, Oh, I only got 6,000 steps today. I'm like, Okay, let's see if I can walk and wait. So, so what I have found is I just like, I really do try to just at the beginning of the workout. Go like, what do I, what do I physically want a need right now? And if that's like to burn some steam and to like get energy out, then I'll go like hard cardio. And if I am like, I'm kind of feeling like a slower lift, then I'll do that, especially when I had like 30 minutes and that's it. Then I'll, I feel like I have to pick if I have an hour, I'll do both and do. So that's for both. That sounds, that sounds like it's balanced, ultimately kind of winning out. It's this weird thing to wear. And I've had it in using wearables before that they can, you know, because it's in front of you and you can like actually see the data, you kind of want it starts to fuck with you a little bit. Yeah. And you're like, I know based on what I know in physiology and exercise and being a trainer, I know that right now I'm going to get the most benefits from like a weight training session. Yeah. But I like seeing that 10,000 on the thing and I feel like I'm doing something wrong if I don't do it. Yeah. But it sounds to me like you're, you're present about it. So you keep that stuff in check. My, my pregnancy really taught me to like, I was like, I don't need 10,000 steps a day. That is a made up number by somebody. So I was, so now I really do try to let it be between eight and 10 and have like that little flexibility that has like made me feel a little more less rigid about it. I used to like March in place before I got into bed and Jason would be like, you're crazy. I'd be like, sorry, I know. And I was like, what is that accomplishing? That is accomplishing me being neurotic. So now I try to just like, I'll check it before I go to bed and to usually somewhere between 8,000 and 10,000. And I just try to be okay with that. You played trombone in a marching band, right? I did. Is that a factor at all? I don't know. I mean, could it be in your, it's just in my, it's in my jeans now. I have to do it. I do get my trombone out to, I don't play it. I just hold it next to me. So that might. That's, I mean, I feel like that's something. I don't know. It's worth looking into or talking to your therapist about it. Maybe you got to find a picture of me in my little marching band outfit. It's silly. Was it like a little like where it had the, the it didn't have like the hat. It was like, it was middle school and it was like white jeans, black shirt with a nickname on the back. You want to know my name? Oh, yeah, please. Of course. I mean, was that a rhetorical question? No, I'm just like, you wouldn't like, like, I remember people wanted it to be big red. Of course. And I said, no, I didn't like that. And so I put it as miss spaz. I don't like it. I don't like it. But it also, like, it depends on the person it's coming from. If I know them well, they won't call me big red, they'll just call me red, but if they're being silly, I'm like, all right, it's fine, but at one point, did you have fun with it and joke around about that name or is it always bothered you? No, in high school, when I made my first email address, have I not told you this? My first email address is really big red O2 at Yahoo.com. So I was having some fun with it at that point. O2, is there, you had to be the second one? I was, yeah, first one went to someone else. I was the second one. No, that was my graduation year. Oh, it makes sense, you know, that makes sense. My sister also is from time to time a big red. We do call her that really interesting together. Yeah, likes it and doesn't like it. It is it is funny, though, because it's a name that can precede you a little bit like, oh, shit, big reds coming, you know, and like it's that like, if it's used as like an announcement for me, like, you know, who's coming through a big red. Yeah. And people aren't like, hey, big red, because that's when it gets like, yeah, that one's, but yeah, if it's the right people and, you know, it is like an announcement or something big red's not going to like this, you know, like, also big, like being called big as a girl when you're little is like horrifying. No, I'm an adult. I'm like, you know, people have started saying, you know, like, you know, take up space. Don't be afraid to be big, you know, all this shit. And so now I'm like, yeah, I am big red motherfucker. Come at me. Yeah. Also, you know, the truth about it that you're not so yeah, I like it. I like big red is I think it's cool. And I like I like it when it's yours. The other name that you the other name that you picked, I don't like. I know. And I think I even put and did I do MZ? I think I did like miss. You did for sure if you're, if you're having this discussion now, it's for sure. Don't act like I don't, I don't, I don't know, I don't know, they might have did something more stupid. I can't think if I did or not. Is it possible to be more, um, I don't, I'm searching my mind, you know, let's say I'm going to go with that 100% it was an MZ 100% as yeah, um, God, what would I, I'm trying to think of, um, for you, like what I would pick as your marching band nickname, black pants, white t-shirt, white pants, white pants, black t-shirt, black t-shirt, yeah, um, I like that. Um, I just, like, we just got word two bags have been delivered of our four missing bags stinger. This is huge for our family. This is, well, the fudge be in one of these bags. This is almost as good as when we recorded during an earthquake. Will you say, um, what the fudge is this? Absolutely. I will. Oh my gosh. Pretty funny. Um, okay. So let's talk about, so what are your memories of the dumbbells? You had a circuitous route to getting to the show and you were an instant fan favorite. Um, people loved having you on Eugene and I had a lot of fun having you come on and you were like the go to guest host. Um, and so was a no brainer when Eugene got, uh, too successful to the show, it was like we got to do, and it was really important for him that you came on and did it too. You know, it wasn't like, I obviously wanted it, but it was also like he was involved in that decision too, um, to kind of pass the, the torch, um, so what do you remember? Do you, I, cause I'm trying to go back and think about our first couple. And this was something I had done at some point, um, you know, maybe when you were going to come on and officially start guest hosting, like I went back and listened to a couple so we could talk about it, but at this point now, they all kind of run together. Um, cause there was some, there was a stretch there where you did a lot of them too before you came on officially. Yeah. Um, and so obviously you've told a bunch of hilarious stories and stuff that I make you retail a lot and a bunch of stuff has happened to you too. But I do remember the Richard Simmons stuff. Um, I remember a thing that you used to cook for yourself. I can't remember what it is though, but it was like your go to meal that you would make at home, something in like a casserole dish or something, was it like tater tots or some shit? Oh, oh my God. Yes. When I was a kid and fat, that's what you're talking about. Not, not more recently. Yeah. Oh yeah. Case ideas and tater tots. Those are my main things who and ranch dressing and ketchup, but mostly ranch. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That first episode, I almost went back and listened to it like cause it came up on my memories. It was like eight years ago or something recently that I did the first like it's like episode like 38 or something crazy and so early in the lineup of the show, early in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I went over my entire like my entire finished journey up until that point, which even from there, it's been eight years. Like I wasn't even considering being a trainer at that point, just enjoying exercise. But yeah, so I ended the oldies. That was a huge part of my first weight loss journey. Man. Little Richard called me big girl one time. That was the story I've told on here before. The rock and roll singer, Little Richard or the aerobics instructor? No, Little Richard, the musician. I never got to meet Richard Simmons, which is a sad. Okay. When did you see Little Richard? When I was a valet, oh, wow, I don't know if I know this one. So when I was a valet in Nashville at one fancy hotel, they would sometimes need us to go to other fancy hotels because we already knew the system, knew the drill. And so he lived in the Nashville Hilton Hotel. He lived in it. And so I got to like, you know, over like a week, I was like subbing in over there and he got to know me or, you know, I was the only girl valet at a lot of places. And he, you know, like joking around with me and stuff, and he started calling me big girl. Okay. That's tough. Yeah. Was it was it's cool coming from him though? Was there any of that? Kind of, you know, but also I was like, note to self, like, tell people this. This is crazy. Tell people this. Yes. I love him. Was he any other fun stories about him? Was he nice or was he a little? He was nice. He was nice. He had like his his tips were always covered in makeup. Like that was like his money was covered in makeup when he would hand it to you. It's like his hands were always covered in makeup. He was a makeup guy. That's very cool. Yeah. Yeah. And like he's got, like he's a good talker, you know, like in interviews and stuff. He's always really funny and fun and definitely fully commits to that person. I mean, I think it's truly him. Yeah. He's lived a life. There's a great documentary about him right now on Max or it was on Max for a while. Oh, I should watch it. Yeah. Those are the only because I wasn't there that much, you know, but that week I had with them was fun. Yes. And traumatizing, but yes. Sure. A little bit. A little bit. But yeah, I mean, it's it's it's crazy. It's crazy. The last little Richard thing is like, so he's doing these like fucking amazing songs that are this huge influence on, you know, rock and roll music and pop music. People are going fucking crazy for him. They're these crossover hits, but you can't say that they, you know, it's not okay. Like white people wouldn't say they liked them or whatever. And they're like these fucking phenomenal hits huge. And like every like Elvis, all these people, like they all there's all everybody's on record with acknowledging what he did for rock and roll. And then this guy, Pat Boone made his whole fucking career just covering little Richard songs and just doing like the shitty white version of it. Dude, he fruity. Oh, Rudy. And it's just like why people were like, yes, that's it. That's it. Yeah. Our kids can listen to this. Like so fucking embarrassing, but yeah. So my early thoughts of you as I thought you were, it's about the same as now, but like really funny and really crazy. And they just completely completely connected to what was going on in your head. So I, which I think is good for podcasting, at least because it's where it's just, if it's in there, it comes out. And so it didn't seem to me like you were trying to measure or think of like, how are you going to come off on looking like this? Like we throw like a question at you and you would just be like fucking completely honest, whether it's detrimental to you or not, or whether it makes sense or not, or any of that. Yeah, that's very true. And that to me, especially when it's connected to health and fitness, I think is really helpful because if you're not trying to further some end or something or you have some weird motive in there to come off a certain way or sell something or yourself or whatever it is, it can be helpful for people to just be like, wow, this is where she's at is very similar to where I'm at. And she's speaking at speaking about it in a very truthful way. And maybe she's further along and so hearing her story is really helpful. But that was, you know, that's pretty sincerely how I felt. And then yeah, so it was just, it's good. It's been, it's been really fun getting to know you and your family and you know, hear these stories. A little Richard one is completely new. Definitely don't remember that at all. The valet stuff is a treasure trove of it really is a treasure trove. I remember things all the time where I'm like, Oh, I forgot about that. Like one time I really thought I was going to get kidnapped, but I didn't thank God, but I was really afraid. It was like the one, one time in my life where I was like, this is it. I'm going to get kidnapped. But that's not funny. That's not a little Richard based, but what was what made your spidey sense go off for that? I had driven these two guys to a strip club. Because sometimes it was it was guys involved in this, you know, right? Guys are bears. Which would you rather be alone with in the woods or in an SUV? I think bears everybody's feeling safer with bears. It's true. They just they got like one was in the driver's or in the passenger seat and one was in like the front row of the SUV and they kept like getting closer and closer to me as I was like, driving. And then when I parked to let them out, they wouldn't get out. And then they got like up in my face and they're like one was like trying to kiss me. It was really like really weird. And I was like, what am I going to do? Like they were big and I was like not like that, you know, and there was too. No matter what. Little Richard says. Yeah. Richard says, I'm not big compared to two. That is terrifying. It's really freaky. Yeah. I realize how vulnerable I was at that moment. Like they usually the guys at the valet would send me on these runs because I would they thought I would get more money from tips. That was the whole thing. Yeah. So then I was like after that, I was like, nah, nope, I have to. You guys have to do these like late night drunk guy ones. I'll do the other ones. Yes. Oh, fuck, dude. So anyways, well, I love talking about fitness. I love it. I will talk about it till the day I die because it has been such an important part of my life. I thought you and Eugene did a great job at making it. You guys were pro science and also accessible. And I thought that was really fun. And I was so excited when I think Eugene like texted me like, can you talk? And I was like, oh my gosh, what's going on? I was like, yeah. And then he was like, you want to do the podcast instead of me. And I was like, oh my gosh. I called my mom. I called the president. I called little Richard. I called everyone in my my contacts and told them. Your mom was like, don't do it. Yeah. My mom was like, don't say bad words on a recording device. Oh, man. Sorry, mom. Whoops. Yes. That angle. What happened? Yeah. We talked, we talked, we did a show an episode with you and Melissa and your mom was there for it. My mom was in the background. Yes. Yes. And you told us like, hey, you might want to do say what you want, but my mom is uncomfortable around a lot of swearing. And I think I probably still swore a little bit. You did. I remember you did a little bit, but it was like really dialed back. Yeah. I mean, I tell Jason, I like prep Jason every time like we go to see my parents, I'm like, please just don't cuss. Like just the one thing is like, don't cuss. And then he's like, Jesus Christ. And I was like, that counts, bro, that counts. That's even the, that's the big one. Don't do the big one. Yeah. So, you know, we're getting through it still to this day. We're working through it day by day, my day. And stuff, Nancy's parents, conservative Catholic, no swearing, they don't swear at all. And so, yeah, that was a tough adjustment for me because at home with my parents, it's like, mother, like, I mean, you could fucking say anything. I think that's so cool. Like, I'm like, how do you, how do you raise good kids and also that they can swear in front of you? Like, I don't know how to do that. Do let's don't. Yeah, I mean, I can't, with the way I am, I can't, what am I going to say, don't. When he was little, I mean, he's almost 14. When he was little, it was, I would say it. And he would ask, because at first it was like, oh, do I try to be quiet about it and, you know, stuff would come up. I've told the story before, but I remember he was really little and he was sitting in the car and like, he would gravitate towards where you, if you put a little mustard on him, you know, like, come on, you know, something like that, he would, he would imitate that, you know, because it was, you were saying it in a, like, in a way that had a little juice to it. And so we were driving and it's LA driving and it's taken him to preschool or something still when he was still in a little car seat. And I would say I was trying to be more careful about it as he got older and started repeating stuff. And so somebody kind of cut me off a little bit and I said, oh, and I stopped myself and he was like, shit, like exactly what it said it was so funny. But anyway, I, you know, I was kind of like dabbled with how much I was going to swear and then I eventually just said whatever I wanted. And I told him and I said, look, you're not allowed to say it. And if I hear about you saying it at school or from your friends or their parents, then you'll be in trouble. And so that's like, these are words for grownups. And when you're grown up, you can say it and, you know, yeah. And so, you know, I think if you have a kid that listens to you and it's not always a guarantee, no matter even if you're the best parent in the world. So it's just, I think it's people's disposition a lot of the times, but that, that seemed to kind of work. He never got in trouble for, he never got in trouble from friends parents or saying it around friends and, uh, or school. And then now he'll be, if he's trying to explain something, he'll be like, do you mind if I swear for this? I'll say, okay, I'll, I'll allow it. And then he'll say whatever it may approach the bench judge. That's really fun. I love that. But now with his friends, I'll hear, cause they'll be on the phone with them and be like, this fucking guy, you know, so I don't know, I mean, if he's saying it to his other 13, 14 year old friends, I'm not going to police that shit. Yeah, especially since I fucking do it on a podcast, multiple podcasts. Yeah. Cause my dad, my house, it was like, fucking dad, you fucking bitch, like all, if it was like, if it was like funny, I mean, you could just pretty much do anything. Oh yeah. Okay. If it's funny. All right. All right. Yeah. I wasn't, I wasn't like, come on, dad. You bit like it was, it was more just like, ingest and my dad has the foulest mouth imaginable. I mean, it's crazy, crazy. I've never heard somebody swear like him. Really? Even you? Yeah. You don't hold a candle. No. It's unreal. And then it's stuff to where he will string together words that are like you couldn't imagine. And he, he's, he's really handy and, you know, works around his property and all that stuff. And he'll be, you know, putting a hammer and a fence or whatever. And then like hit his thumb in it and it's just like, motherfucker, you know, just like crap. Like all this shit. And then we're saying like, dad, their neighbors can hear you say that stuff. And you truly sound like a psycho, like a psycho beyond just a foul mouth. I mean, you sound like a fucking psycho. So anyway, that, but yeah. So having you come on and do the show, you know, as a guest and then ultimately join and then, you know, getting to see your personality more and more has been a blast. And also it's taught me a lot about exercise and fitness and, you know, stuff that I've been able to kind of apply. And something that I love that you brought to the show was a real desire and interest in actually trying things. And that was something you, Jean and I might, we never, we didn't do that much, honestly. We maybe kind of talked about it, but we were lazy about it. And so even if it's stuff that you and I kind of do experimentally on our own, it's still, it's got a much bigger presence in the show now. And I like the stuff that we do that are remotes, you know, where we really go do it and try it. And I talk about it. Yeah. It is. And so, you know, like your life's settling down a little bit. So you're going to have some more time for that. And hopefully me too. And so, you know, one of the things I mentioned, we're going to get a guest on that is, has been doing some rucking. And Aaron and I are going to try rucking also. So this is one of those ones that's gained a lot of popularity with fitness influencers and longevity people. Yeah. And so these fucking idiots won't shut up about it. And so we'll go take a, we're going to go take it, take a look, give it a try. We're going to have to do it. We're going to have to do it early, right? Because it's. I think so. It's hot. Yeah. It's hot out here. Yeah. I'm going to do rucking with, with my baby instead of like a rucksack. Yeah. I think it's kind of like a way at all. A weighted bag, a weighted vest. I think I count it's so rucking is different than a weighted vest because it's, it's in a backpack. So the distribution is also more like a backpack, right? So do you wear her on your back or do you have her on your front? I have. I guess I do have her on the front. I think I can wear her on my back. I think she might be tall enough. I can try. I can look into it. The most important thing to take away from all of this is it doesn't count unless it's a backpack. And even if it might make sense for you in your life, from a convenience standpoint, yeah, to just be able to take her on a nice walk and get the whole effect of it unless it's an actual ruck sack. It doesn't count at all and it's not got it, got it, got it, got it. No, I would say, do whatever, do whatever the fuck you will do that. I really, really, really want to take one of these aerial yoga classes. That's, that is on my list of things to try in the next 100 to 400 million episodes. The little mermaids teaching yoga classes. Come on, bro. Nice. Yeah, dude, yeah, cut to episode 5 million. You'll be like that aerial yoga joke you did was so fucking funny. I'll never forget it. I haven't forgotten it. I'll never forget it. I think about it every day. I keep waiting for it to come up so I can use it as my own joke, but hasn't hasn't yet. It's very specific. Yeah. No, so the last thing I was going to say about rucking too is I'm going to, I'm going to actually buy a rucking backpack and a rucking weight to use and we'll see how that goes because the person that we're having as our guests, you guys are going to be pumped that he's coming on. I've been a guest before. He's on a very popular podcast. It's not one of the action boys. So. Yeah. Who knows? Yeah. So he has a backpack that he's just use it. He's been using as a rucksack. It's like a more normal standard backpack. And so I'll do the one that's supposedly designed for it and then I'll do a baby and you'll do a baby, but you'll get, we'll get a couple of different ideas as to how important buying the gear is versus if you just have a Jansport or like a, a baby lying around. If that will suffice. What if those could work in the interim? So yeah, we're looking into that aerial yoga should be fun. What else are you liking? I liked some of the ones that we did it in the past that I liked was, I thought climbing was really fun. The dancing one stripping was really fun. Don't say that. It's it's pole. Pole dancing? No. Pole. Exercise. Pole movement. What did she say? She told us the right thing. There was, I also said another thing that was wrong that I won't say, but she corrected. We left it in because it was, it's a mistake that people learn. Yeah. Yeah. A lot. But it wasn't. I said it was a certain kind of dancing that they don't say anymore. Oh, okay. Maybe that's what I just said on accident. But also it's not, it's not stripping because you don't take your clothes. You're just, but you're just using the pole, but I was just, it paints a picture. Now we've lost all our listeners. The one thing I wanted to say about the recent episode we did about water fitness is at the end, you know, we like to like rate like, well, we do this again, whatever, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I, you know, I like doing this. I will probably do it like once in a while. I, you know, it was fun, but like definitely auxiliary. You were very smug, smug, smug. I have done this. I have done that workout, or like different variations. I've tried new things. I have done it four times a week, like since we've done it, like maybe four is too much, maybe three, three times, like I have like gone in the water, done the workouts, like, like swam back and forth, did the running, did the jumping, did the lunging, all the stuff. It is so fun. I think I speak for my dad and me when I say, what the fudge? That is surprising. So I just feel like I had to say that I really have enjoyed that post, like having that knowledge of like what to do in the water and then now using it, I'm finding my own way to do things and it's really fun. I got the weights. I love it. Oh, so you got the equipment now. I got it. Yeah. I agree. Like having that, I always saw some benefit to doing something in the pool, particularly connected to rehab, that I would always see athletes and stuff do it and I'm like, man, that would be cool to have your trainer and you're in there and you know, jumping around and doing shit. And then you're back on the lacrosse field or whatever you're doing. But also, you know, if just doing it on your own is like, where do I even start? So having the framework in a way that you can kind of build a workout is cool. And I feel like, you know, to our coaches credit, she designed it so that there is, you know, you can improvise a lot and you know, you have this base and she does moves that really make sense and it's good. Yeah. That's good to hear. Yeah. It has been so fun. I really enjoyed it. And it's, you know, I have a home gym. It's not fancy. And so it's kind of like a perk that I can offer as like, you know, when the weather is hot and I have, or I have like pregnant clients, like it's really a nice thing that I can be like, I also have this pool if you want to come swim. So it really has, I, I'm like, happy, very happy about that. So I also want to do a DEXA scan. I know I say this all the time, but I really like, not like today because like, I don't really want to know about today, but like in like two months, I'm like, let's try one of those scans. One third of your body is pretzel. Yeah. I don't, that's not my business right now. That is not my business. But you're like, wow, it's pretty interesting that that picks up on that. Really specific. Yeah. I'm with you. I'd like to, I'd like to look into that. Another thing I want to try is VO2 Max. It's a great marker for fitness and also if we want to throw in longevity, which I've already said too much, but that's one that you hear coming up a lot. And so I think we should definitely consider doing a VO2 Max. I am nervous of what mine will be, but. Oh, I mean, I am too. It's tough out there. Stuff out there. But it also, you know, I've been doing stuff that is kind of nosing around improving your VO2 Max. I don't know if it's fully, if I'm fully, you know, on that path, but it kind of is similar to what they would recommend. So I'm curious to see if it's done anything or if I, we get a baseline and then I test it again later, if it'll kind of motivate me to. Yeah, I think tight, tight in the screws a little bit. That's fun. I like that. Like, because that's how I would want to do a DEXA scan too, is like, take it and then like, like six months later, go back and do it again. Yeah. They're like, still a lot of pretzel. Still? Come on, dude. I had three pretzels a month ago. You shared them. You shared them. Yeah. When do you think we're going to be ready to like tackle like that army workout again? Yeah. So that was, that's been long promised. We were going to do the, it's a fit evaluation for United States Army. Yeah. And so we looked it up. It's definitely not easy and we obviously want to take it serious and do a good job. So, and we need a, we need a commercial gym space, I think, to do it right. Or we just need the right amount of equipment. So yeah. So I don't know. I mean, that's one of those things too. Like I'm sure you want to get your, obviously we don't have to be in perfect shape and it's kind of interesting if we're not. That being said, I'd like to be able to get close to finishing it, I guess. And you know, be able to do all of your push up right now. It's like, yeah, I want to be able to at least do five, you know, before I try to get into the army. Yes. And I would like to be able to, you know, even if I can't do every rep or whatever, be able to do all the exercises. Yeah. All the moves. Yeah. So I don't know, I'm reluctant to put a date on it, but let's say, let's say by the end of the year. Whoa. Shit, dude. That's too soon. Yeah, I would say maybe by like maybe by my baby's first birthday. So that's like that's great. That's great. We'll celebrate a birthday with trying to get into the army. Yeah. Great. And so, yeah, I mean, that's that's another thing. I think I don't know, maybe a stair workout, like going to the Santa Monica stairs could be cool. That's like a famous kind of fitness landmark in Los Angeles. We should do that. That would be fun. Yeah. I mean, that's one of those things we could just, we don't have to do a throwup workout. I mean, we can just walk up and down. It's crazy. You do it like one time and you're like, that might be good for me. And there's people that just went up and down. Okay. Oh, yeah. You know it's a long, long time ago I did it. And there was like one guy coaching this, like rich old lady. And I will, like he was really encouraging, but I was like kind of using him to encourage me to. Yeah. But it was hard. And it was like sunrise. It was crazy. I don't know what the fuck I was doing. I didn't have money for a gym membership. So that's what that's doing. You did sunrise? Uh huh. Yeah. It was like me and like 10 other dumb dummies. Uh, 10, 10 other dummies. Your face. It's a big crew for sunrise. I don't know. I'm just trying to think. But it's beautiful. So it's like, yeah, of course you're going to be there. It's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, so that could be a fun one. I think it'd be fun to take somebody there and have them try it. Oh, hell yeah. You know, put put together a little workout and then we can do, um, you know, make a little day of it over in San Vincent. They do all the little fun stuff over there in a Brentwood, uh, Brentwood, California. Go to Lulu Lemon, go to air one. I used to go to this restaurant over there called the Votra Sante. It means it's French or something for two year old. Wow. Yeah. It was right by the yoga place I went to what back when yoga was fringe. Yeah. Uh, people are like yogurt. What is that? Um, so at the one time I was at this yoga place and it got, you know, kind of secret popular and, uh, so like a bunch of fancy people started going and, uh, there was a guy that would, that went there, I saw a bunch of celebrities and stuff in there and, uh, but the, the yoga instructor was kind of creepy, would only touch girls. So he'd go around and then like adjust people and then maybe give like a little bit of like a shoulder rub, but it was only, only women. And it wasn't everybody, but only women. And it was truly like, if he was like, got bumped and was falling out of a window and like I could help him, he would not touch me, he would just fall out of the, a ladies please. A ladies. Yeah. But there was this guy there. I was like leaving and getting in like my Ford Explorer, uh, my champagne colored Ford Explorer with 270,000 miles on it and there was a guy that had this Lamborghini and, uh, it was a tight parking garage and he couldn't get out of the parking garage. Um, cause it had like the, the paddles, you know, you have to control it with that and it was just this weird, but I had a client who was super rich and had every year, she would get this, uh, a brand new Porsche. And so like I would drive her car around as much as I could. And so, uh, I, you know, I, you know, cause it's fun. And so I, uh, I told the guy, you know, like I can get that out for you. And so he just had to fucking grab his little expensive gym bag and then watch me back his car out for him. So it definitely made me feel better about being poor. Um, I was like this fucking this rich idiot. It's fucking good. Can't even drive this car. You fucking piece of shit. Um, language, language, it's how I was raised, but, um, yeah, so I don't know. That's where we're at. We got some, we got some fun stuff. We could go in studio and do a yoga class. Um, that could be cool. 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