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Did the Bears hire the wrong offensive coordinator? (Hour 4)
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All their services are covered by insurance and they're conveniently accessible through telehealth visits and 24/7 messaging. You deserve to feel great. Book your virtual visit today at JoinMitty.com. That's JoinM-I-D-I.com. Well, I don't necessarily think you go in an opposite direction. You invest in a lot of time, but there has to be changes, whether it's play design, personnel, everything, everything's on the table. Let's call it, right? And those are all things that we have to, you know, I have to look at. We have to look at as a staff and make the adjustments. Bully and Hosh, Chicago Sports Radio 670 to score. That is Doug Peterson. He is a Super Bowl winning coach. He sounds like a defeated band after seeing his team, his quarterback get manhandled by Buffalo yesterday. That was a bad game, 47 to 10. Yeah, and that wasn't that close. That is what a coach sounds like when he's not encouraged by a loss. Okay. That's what a coach sounds like when he is defeated in more ways than one. Yeah. And he knows he's probably staring at his coaching mortality, and he's got a quarterback that is in a funk big time in Trevor Lawrence. So we saw both ends of the extreme, I think, both sides of it last night in terms of, boy, you've got the Jaguars who were lost and the bills who were rolling in that game. And then the other game that I think got a lot of captured, a lot of Chicago's imagination or attention. Yeah, the Washington commanders beating the Cincinnati Bengals in Washington. I'm sorry, in Cincinnati. Yes. Going on the road with a rookie quarterback in Jaden Daniels and Jaden Daniels doing the special, as Ryan Poles might say, 21 to 23. He threw two touchdown passes, his first two of his career won the first one tackle eligible call. Great offensive design there, Cliff Kingsbury. And I think you look at what the commanders did with Jaden Daniels, and obviously you're comparing it and contrasting it with what the Bears are unable to do offensively with their scheme. And certainly right now, three games into the respective NFL careers. The number two overall pick in last year's NFL draft is out playing the number one overall pick. In Kayla Williams, Jaden Daniels, greater than Kayla Williams, three games in. I don't know if it's going to stay that way, but it is worth watching. It is certainly worth discussing. And I think that he entered a situation that was, even though all the conversation was. Kayla was coming into a great situation conducive to winning. Jaden Daniels is having fun. And he's in a right spot. He's got an offensive line protecting him, he's got receivers making his throws come down as completions and he's got a running game to lean on. And Bigsy did tell us earlier this morning that Cliff Kingsbury did interview with the Bears for the OC job. But the Bears have claimed that was more of an informational interview regarding the quarterback, Kayla Williams. Well, the shame on them. Well, there you go. But according to Dustin's research, these are the guys that did interview for the opening with the Chicago Bears. There was Thomas Brown, the Carolina Panthers offensive coordinator, Greg Roman, the former Ravens offensive coordinator, Shane Waldron, the man who got the job. Clint Kubiak, who was then with San Francisco as their passing game coordinator, and Greg Olson, only had been here before the former Seahawks quarterbacks coach. Right. Well, it's working. It's working in Washington. They should have talked to him about more than Kayla Williams personality traits and past. And listen, Clint Kubiak is working too. Yeah, he is. He's working well. I look at. I look at that as maybe less sustainable than what's going on in Washington. Okay. But that's fair. Well, this is an ongoing conversation. And the apples to apples comparison people will want to make is quarterback to quarterback. And I think Kayla Williams and Jay Daniels, you're going to spend their entire careers maybe being compared to each other. I think this both guys can have Pro Bowl caliber careers. I don't know if this is burrow. But we do have a situation where the term generational talent is thrown around loosely. We have done it ourselves. Yes. Kayla Williams can still be great in Chicago. I believe that firmly after Sunday, even though it's not to start that anybody envisioned and certainly needs to protect the football better than he has. And I think Jay Daniels is off to a start that suggests he's going to be great as well. Both guys can be great and comparing them throughout the course of their careers is going to be fun. But I don't look at this as the one that got away. Yeah, I mean, it could be. It could be. I don't look at it that way. I'm afraid that it won't be that way, Molly. I'm just saying that I don't think it will go that way. Right. And I'm on board with what you left. Well, it could actually the sky could fall. No, I actually listen. It could go. I am more than happy to give the Bears time to give Kayla Williams all the time he could want. And I think that we're seeing hints that things could be okay. We've seen some flashes already. And hopefully that improves. There are a lot of different things that you worry about that you notice. When you talk about whenever Roma Dunes is open, I'm going to be looking for them. That's okay, but maybe don't say that in front of DJ Moore. Maybe you're saying that to let DJ Moore know you're going to make skunky face at me. I'm going to throw the ball to him. And when if it should ever be in an Allen play, remember he's the guy that doesn't have the money that doesn't have the future guaranteed that probably needs the ball and is a third down machine. I'm not saying any of this stuff is going to be a problem. I'm just saying these are things that are setting up if the Bears continue to lose. I would file all that what you just said as eloquently as you said it though. I would file that under noise. Okay. Noise. I like to make noise. You need to ignore the noise if you're Caleb Williams and the Bears though, right? You need to stop worrying about whether or not you get in the ball. What you got to worry about? What they want us to sit here and said, "Go out and learn how to run the football." Let's talk about noise. Let's talk about noise. Okay. What about the coach saying he's encouraged after getting your... No, no, no, no, I mean it's Charlie Brown's teacher. Okay. I don't want to hear it. Well, all you hear is, yeah, all you hear is what you want to hear. What about when the guy talks about being proud of Vailus Jones after week one? What about when the guy talks about the way the locker room handled the victory? What about... And how about, you know, Dave was telling us that they interviewed Javon Dexter, or Jeff Choniac did, on the marquee network after the game. And Javon Dexter was kind of getting goofy, was kind of happy. After the loss. After getting... Because he was playing against his high school or middle school teammate. And his college teammate. And his college teammates. Yeah. Regardless. So, I'm just saying... I'm just saying... You're just saying... Noise. It's all noise. We're throwing it all out because it's noise. The running play that failed miserably on fourth... There's different levels of noise though. We like that play. And different levels of noise. I think the kind of noise that you want to ignore are the kind of things that relate to the tension that may or may not be there. Things that might be created situations. The kind of noise that you want to maybe zero in on and make sure that it's not just noise. The tone that is set by the head coach matters. It does. It's got to matter. And you can't just say it's noise. So, it's the stuff with Caleb Williams and the receivers. I think that is something that doesn't necessarily exist and that could qualify as the kind of noise I'm talking about. Oh, yeah. And you know it too. Yeah. But I think that if you want to look at Matt Eberflu's... It's a problem. And you want to conclude after three games that a season that began with such high expectations requires and demands the head coach to amplify something that makes clear where the standards are. You're right. That's valid. I don't think he's done a good job of that. No. I think he's fallen short of that. And you know who else has it? The offensive coordinator. We talked about it last week. I don't know. I cannot follow the plot with this guy. He is not a clear speaking man. Well, you could get away with that if your schemes are designed in such a way that you are outsmarting your opponent. Then I don't care how he sounds. I like the way his offense looks. But the offensive coordinator is I think a lesser, there's less focus on what he says on a week to week basis. Your head coach sets the tone each and every time he opens his mouth. And he does that on a daily basis during the NFL season. And Matt Eberflu's needs to projects a stronger message that certain things are accepted and certain things aren't. He had his hard knocks honeymoon. It was great. All right? But it's over. He needs to be a football coach that talks a little tougher and demands a little more. Yeah. Or he's not going to be a football coach. Or he's not going to be a coach because you heard Matt. You heard Mike Florio. Three losses. You know you say it. Three losses away from prosperity or disaster in the NFL. That's exactly true. It's exactly true. And this could be the third straight loss Sunday. Well, they got two in a row. They better win on Sunday or else. And I think that they become the desperate team this week. I think they are the desperate team this week. And if they lose three in a row that noise, it's going to be people clamoring for a coaching change. I just, well, I mean, listen, I'm not saying they're going to do that in season. I'm not. I don't know. They've never done it in season. They've never done it. But you know how it works in NFL cities. We've been around long enough to know how it works in Chicago. We have seen Matt Eberflus go from a guy who didn't deserve the job he had. And why is this guy the coach to a guy that took over the defense last year. They got better. And everyone's like, wow, you know, he's shown me some things. He's done pretty well. And then you get to the off season and it's well, he's shown enough. So let's keep him, but we're firing all the offensive coaches except for Chris Morgan, who gets a nice promotion. And then you move forward and now here we are again and Matt is on the negative side of the ledger right now through three weeks. And it's dangerous because he's saying the wrong stuff. Because when he's trying to communicate, he can turn it around, he can easily turn it around. You know how you turn it around? You win. You win. You win. And then no one you win. How do you win? Well, you demand things from your team, you raise you. You don't get your players a pass by saying that they were, you were encouraged by one of the worst losses you could have imagined this year's you're not going to play many teams worse than the Colts were on Sunday. They gave you an opportunity to seize that up that game and you you've passed. You said, no, not today, no thank you. And I think that that by the end of the season, we'll have a very good feeling one way or another how you want to go. Things could work out great. Things could get steady and everything could be this. This is sort of the build up portion of the season where you're getting ready to eventually start playing in your division. This is a soft portion of the schedule. You need to win these games that are there. It needs to go better. It needs to go better. And you need to be better to get better. No doubt about it. Can I share you with you a stat that tells you just how special Jaden Daniels first three games have been? This is from CBS Sports This Morning Eric K is at EK CBS tweeted this. All right, Jaden Daniels has had two career NFL games out of three where his team has scored on every drive, including excluding kneel downs, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning and Patrick Mahomes combined to do that twice in their entire careers, including the playoffs. That's 1,094 combined starts. Jaden Daniels has done that twice in three games and the Bears play him later on the year. Dude, that's gonna be a great matchup. Yeah. I wonder what we'll be saying. That's what the rivalry will be. I'm very curious as to what we'll be saying at that point in time between the two rookie quarterbacks. You know, pity, Jaden Daniels got hurt. I'm joking. Wow. That's terrible. That's just me. You know, he is falling. Corey is listening on the word. Yeah. Pick Corey. Hey, what's going on guys? Last night, a nightmare scenario, but my biggest takeaway, but the Bears had an ideal all along. They were taking Caleb. They completely passed on Cliff Kingsbury, who was his offensive coordinator. And I get you didn't call plays at USC, but there was a familiarity there. Now we see some success with Jaden early on. What is going through Caleb's mind watching that? And what is his thought about the Bears organization knowing that they went in a different direction? Well, it's a fair question. I don't think it's relevant because it can't matter. I mean, he's naturally going to wonder these things. I imagine with Cliff Kingsbury, if he had a relationship that he cared about, he's going to be happy for him and maybe wondering how they would have worked together in Chicago. But you can't get caught up on that if you're Caleb Williams. You've got so many other things swirling in your head to worry about that that can't be a priority. Let's try Bobby. He's in Naperville. Hey, Bobby. Hey, guys. How you doing? Good. I want to talk about this idea and Molly, you kind of brought it up earlier in the show and David, you keep harping on it, this idea of faith in football. Like you have to have faith and you have to believe it's not religion, man. All you got to do is see what you're seeing. And let me give you an example, right? Like all off season, David, you were leaving the charge, right? That you did not believe Justin Fields would ever be a good pocket passer. I don't know if he is or if he isn't or if he will be. I don't know. But all I know is that that idea blinded you to the fact that he is the biggest double threat in football. I mean, there is nobody that there is no defensive coordinators, bigger nightmare than Justin Fields. So now we're on this whole idea that, well, Caleb, don't worry about what he's doing or don't worry about his play, he had to watch that game last night for about 10 seconds to see the difference between Jayden Daniels and Caleb Williams. But we're going to keep blaming it on something else, right? So we're going to fire the whole coaching staff, bring in another coaching staff. And let me tell you, when they bring in Lincoln Riley, every bear stance should be unbelievably, it's about to be a disaster because his offense is crap. It doesn't work and it will eat it up. So the idea of having faith in football is just goofy. Just see what you can do. I don't think I'm going to use the word faith, but appreciate the phone call and perspective. I don't think I say, yeah, I think I talked about belief in a message, the tone of head coach can set and I was, I was a believer in Caleb Williams coming to Chicago and I still am. Yeah. It's I have faith in Caleb Williams. You can believe. Thank you. Yeah. I don't, I'm not quite sure what offended him about belief. It's okay. Everybody, you know, you hear things in the interpretive certain way is entitled to that opinion. He could be outraged. Look, there's a lot of Fed Up Bears fans across bear nation all over the, all over the country today, this week, I would be ticked off too. If I saw your team squander an opportunity like they did Sunday in Indianapolis, I'd be in a bad mood for a while. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. It was, it was not good. It was not a good thing. It was as predictable as it may have been. Should I say don't lose faith? Be careful. You don't want to, people, 3, 1, 2, 6, 44, 67, 67, it's Molly and Hans score. This summer, get away in the Hyundai you've always wanted at the Hyundai Getaway Sales Event. Get the hottest deals of the season on many of our award winning Hyundai models, which all come with America's best warranty, but get going because these deals won't last. 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MIDI offers accessible care. All their services are covered by insurance and they're conveniently accessible through telehealth visits and 24/7 messaging. You deserve to feel great. Book your virtual visit today at JoinMitty.com that's Join M-I-D-I.com. Now Justin Fields, I'm talking to you Chicago Bears fans. I am talking to you, okay, the Bears might be second-guessing trading Justin Fields. Look at what he has done through three games with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's one of four quarterbacks right now that are undefeated. You look at what he's doing. He is taking a very bad offensive line in Pittsburgh and he's helping them out. He has 90 rushing yards through three games. Look at the other side of the spectrum, Chicago Bears, Caleb Williams, Gondre Swift, they're starting running back. He has 70 rushing yards through three games. Caleb Williams is not helping out that horrible offensive line. You continue what you're doing, Justin. I've always believed you. There's people on this set. They don't believe you. There's people in the world that don't believe in you. Just keep doing what you're doing. Keep stacking days. You're going to come out on top. Mully and Haw, Chicago Sports Radio 670, the score that is the voice of Chase Daniels. He was on FS1, the faculty, and he was talking about the Bears, maybe second-guessing the trade they made when they gave away. They gave him away. I think two things can be true. They didn't get as much as you wanted them to get in return. Got nothing. They'll likely be a fourth round draft pick from the Steelers if he plays more than 50% of the snaps. It appears he will. I'm surprised that Chase Daniels would sound as definitive as he sounded on FS1. Three games into a season. Very difficult to draw any hard and fast conclusions, even though we were leading that direction. A lot of people at Chicago should be happy for Justin Fields for finding a way to maximize his talents. He's being coached very well. Arthur Smith is using him to play, he's playing to his strengths and he's making limited. He hasn't really turned the football over. He's running the football and the Steelers are 3-0. I still think the Bears did the right thing in moving on. I know people won't be surprised by that. It's too early to say anything definitive about, really any of the quarterbacks that are going, but it is a fun conversation. Who at this point is the offensive rookie of the year? Jayden Daniels. I've just had a... Why does everyone have... Jayden Daniels is... Runaway early favorite for the offensive rookie of the year. Chase Daniel is a believer that the Bears made a mistake in getting rid of Justin Fields and going for Caleb Williams. I think had they done that, Caleb Williams would have gone somewhere else and we'd been wondering if they had the right guy. Who knows what the situation would be? Bottom line is, Jayden Daniels can be special in Washington, Caleb Williams can be special in Chicago and both guys can thrive and be the franchise quarterbacks that both the respective franchises needed them to be. Yeah, and then we got a text saying how can you say that Chase Daniels is making assumptions after three games when you're second guessing everything this morning. We're not second guessing everything this morning. We are reacting to what happened yesterday night and we're talking about how it impacts everything that's going on in our town. That's it. We're not. Listen, no one has concluded that Caleb Williams is not the man. That's what we're saying. That's what we're talking about. Yes. We're talking about you have to voice and I guess caution people against having and drawing hard and fast conclusions but to express that you have to say that. That's what we're saying. That's what you do on a talk show. Thank you, buddy. Just saying. You know what else you do on a talk show? If your, if your name is Molly, you do a lot of rain dance. Wow. You're trying to keep it going. Yeah. I've been rain dancing during breaks. I know you have been. Rain dancing now. I wish that was on Twitch and we should do your rain dance on Twitch. That'll be a lot of fun. You know what? It's working because it looks a little bleak outside. That's good to hear. Is it a little bleak? So I think that you are doing what you can to get the White Sox to cancel tonight's festivities. Yeah. Everybody's all over this story like it's a story. The White Sox are finally going to lose. Dustin is just the happiest man in America as it's not the Cubs. And once he's so bitter about the Cubs not making the playoffs that he tried to go after Craig Council, we wouldn't allow it. And now he's going after the White Sox and hopefully the weather won't allow it. I'll push back a little bit there. You don't really have to go after the White Sox. They've done a nice job all season of bringing attention, unwanted attention unto unto themselves. And tonight is the latest example. It is a national story for the national pastime when a team is on the verge of doing what the White Sox are on the verge of doing. What if they rain out the rest of the year? Huh? Then you're going to do a rain dance every day. I'm worried about your back. If that happens. No, no, no. I've got my guy Mylon help me out. I'm good. What are you going? Are you going on your bike today? Yeah, it depends on how much dancing I got it now. Why would you worry about a little rain getting in the way of your cycling activity mainly for fear of going ours over tea cattle? Sometimes there's nothing better. Little jog in the rain. I like going running in the rain. Maybe getting hit by a car would get in the way of my bicycling activity. That would get in the way a little bit. Sox tonight, Jonathan Cannon at home against the Angels. If they lose, it will be their 121st loss. Yes. If it is a national story, there will be national coverage. The Wall Street Journal even weighed in this morning and they quoted Reynaldo Lopez saying that this 162 game season probably feels like 500 games to the players in that clubhouse. Oh, nice. Nice. He's probably right. Yeah. I mean, he's definitely right because it's been a long slog. He's one of the guys. He got away. Yeah. He's got a t-shirt. I escaped. Yeah. All right. We got. We got. He's in Chicago. Hey, go. Hey, guys. First thing, first, let's just find out what you were talking to as a cup fan. No one cares about what happens with the white Sox. The season with the Cubs is a total failure. Yeah. No. Only Dustin. I'm just letting you know. Yeah. No. I know. Otherwise, going back to Kill Libbs. I mean, at what point are Bears fans just knocking our gun on her stand no matter who the quarterback is of the Chicago Bears. It is never going to work. Never. You know, I don't care if they drive to Tom Brady, DJ Shroud, those guys would be in the state. They're both. They're just cars. Not what you're saying. Listen, if Caleb Williams was the starter for the Green Bay Packers last two weeks, he would be looked at the same way that Malik Wilson looked at the Bears have never had success with a quarterback. They never will. And with that said, go pack. Go. All right. All right. So it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. That's a Packer fan. Robbing it in. No, he's not. Yeah. He left that for the end. He's a Chicagoan. Yeah. He's a Packer fan. Listen, I mean, it's a cynical approach. I would like to believe that nothing's changed about the overall overarching reason. If Caleb Williams was replacing Jordan Love, he'd be a lot better than Malik Wilson. Malik Wilson. Very good. I mean, again, that also goes to the broader point here. This is week three, we're three games into Caleb Williams NFL career. He was drafted not to necessarily change things immediately, even though I think he's capable of doing that. I still think the Bears are capable of having a winning season in his rookie year, but he was drafted number one overall because not where his floor is. It's where his ceiling is. Can you help me? How, how often this year have the Bears been leading? Because it felt like last week they didn't lead at all. I know they ran tons of plays, but they were not leading very often. They had to come from behind to win. They didn't lead in that game. They were down seven and nothing. Yeah. And they never led. They never led. And they did they lead much against Houston doesn't feel like they led in that game much. I'm just saying. What's point? My point is that the way the Bears want to win is to get ahead and then, you know, unleash the defense. And instead, we've seen a team that's trying to throw from behind. Well, you know, your points has been in league. Your point is, is I think connected to this idea of the question of the week. What is the Bears identity? It's a question every team and every fan base and every media core asks of your NFL teams early in the season. The Bears identity right now is they clearly are a finesse team. They want to throw the ball around, but I would caution them. I would caution them from doing what they did on Sunday in Indianapolis because Brad Biggs with the stat of the day. Should we give an award to Biggsie is a sponsored whatever that stay out of the day, teams that have thrown 50 or more passes in a game since 2015 and regulation is 2024 now. So it's about a decade. Let's look at about a decade of work, a big body of work, not a small sample size. Teams that have thrown 50 or more passes in a game are 23 and 141 23 and 141. If you think the White Sox record is bad, that record is worse. Well, there is a Mike Jordan involved in it. What? 23. Oh, I didn't know what you meant there, but there's nothing there's nothing magical about that number. It tells you that if you are heading down that road, Shane Waldron, other than Mike, it was pretty magic. Yeah. If you're heading down that path, stop yourself. Stop yourself. Run the damn ball. Get a grip. Run the win. Run the ball. Yeah. Commit to the run. The guy that is trying to prove something about how smart you are, schematically, take the gimme, hand the ball off. It's football. Don't overcomplicate it. Don't make it a game of chess when you can play checkers. Yeah. Sometimes you just have to line it up, put your hand in the dirt, as they say, and get the tough yard. Establish the run. So that's what will help Kayla Williams developing the kind of quarterback the Bears need him to be. And so he can catch up to Jayden Daniels because right now Jayden Daniels, not only is playing the best ball among rookie quarterbacks, but he's playing as well as any quarterback in the national football league. So you've got him for MVP. Not rookie. Look three weeks into the season. Tell me a quarterback that's playing at a higher level than Jayden Daniels right now after last night. The guy with all the Super Bowl rings, yeah, I don't want to exaggerate because that makes it easier for people to poke holes in something. I think that saying it's enough to say he's playing at the highest level of any quarterback. It was a rookie, any rookie quarterback and he's got that Washington team looking like they have turned the corner. He could have saved you a fourth round pick is what you're trying to say. Stop putting words in my mouth. Stop. No, it's, you know, listen, here's the thing. The Bears are going to be okay. Just calm down or they're going to lose on Sunday and it's going to be yet another one of these over two teams that are just going to keep picking them off. Well, either thing could happen, either thing could happen and apologies to Josh Allen. He's probably having a better year than Jayden Daniels. He's he's on an MVP type of what did he do? He let him in passing and rushing. What's that? He's he's playing at a very high level. Yeah, he's pretty good. So it's a tough situation, tough week for the Bears. Yeah. But it's one of those games that we talked about last week feeling like they had to do is they had to win that game because of the schedule. If the Rams come in as compromised as they are as injured and banged up as they are. Well, they're not getting any of those guys back. And also it's a noon kickoff. I know this is noon. I don't see NFL. That means it's 10 o'clock in the morning. Their body clots are going to be messed up. They'll be looking for a cup of coffee while they're getting knocked on their tails. Well, we know with a lot of people can get Sean McVay coffee and everyone who does get the job. Anybody who gets some coffee becomes an offensive coordinator. So is this also Shane Walden? He worked for McVay Denny. Yes, he's got him coffee. So is this the Shane Waldron revenge game? Let's hope he represents himself better than he did Sunday in Indy. Let's hope it's the Shane Waldron run game. Run the ball. Run the ball. Yeah. Take the gimme. Run the ball. Get run downhill and get your offensive line to respond. All right. Right now. Enough football talk. 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So we'll be talking to Billy and a K Billy and the boss and we'll be having some some coffee and some refreshing treats from the fine folks at Schmaltz Dally and we will I think Casey's going to be Casey Johnson is going to be here. We'll talk to Casey at some point. Bull's insider. We've got some some regulars that we will get to. So we're not going to forget the bears, but we will have an hour with with Bulls preview. We'll talk about all the significant stories from the off season and and kind of attempt to figure out how good they could be moving forward. Mr. David. No doubt about it. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's rare that we get an opportunity to talk to Billy Donovan and a K at the same time. So that'll be a good dynamic and then let's face it just right around the corner. The bull start next week, the Hawks are already in camp and the winter tenants of the United Center have arrived and I mean think about it, you know, Billy was a great player back in the day, a K played in Lithuania. He's a guy that played good college ball. You're from Indiana. We got a lot of basketball stuff. I'm from Indiana. This is my best presidential. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. I am. I'm from Indiana. I'll hit you. I may be able to hit three every now and then. See, if we go two on two against them, I'm definitely the guy bringing us down, which is sad. That means I get to take every shot, so that's not so bad. Oh boy. There's a fistfight ever broke it out between two guys, two and two game. All right, we've got, we've got Dan and I believe Kevin Spain is the Illinois sports rider of the year. Yes. Isn't that building? A wildcat if I'm not mistaken. Yes, he is. He has to talk to him next and it's Molly and Honda score this summer. 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