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Dave Wannstedt is confused by the Bears' running game

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Yeah, there's always if the look is right. Mully and Hawch, Chicago Sports Radio 677 in the score. All right, Dave. You heard that explanation of it. Yeah, and it's right. But I would go back to this. One, you know, I didn't like to call in that situation. I gave you my reasoning, right? We talked about where we were at on the field, and it but I would I would have kicked the field goal. I mean, let's I'm going sideways on this thing, but that's just me. I was sitting there at the marquee doing it, and everybody looked at me and says, Coach, what's our decision? And I said, well, I've got fired for being a little bit conservative, but I want to help a lot of games. I want to win at halftime with the momentum. I'm kicking the field goal and making this now, you know, less than a one score game. But anyway, that's that's a side note. But all I would say is, you know, and and and I keep repeating this. I am on board with flus and Ryan, these guys all the way, but but the head coach, I don't want to hear that. I wish we would have run it on third. First, I hear that coach. I'm the head coach. You control that. David, if you call the play, right, if I want that play within the first three plays, I'm going to say David, run the option run the option. David, and if you say the fourth time play, we're going to run the option. I'm going to say David, no, we're not. I don't want to run the option run. I want to run the leader to dive in a belly. I mean, you know, offensive coordinators, all they're thinking about is scoring points, scoring points. There was that was momentum change. That was too, too much was involved in that play to do something unusual, I think. Let's stick with the head coaching issue that burned time out when it was 14 to nine, and they wanted to kick the extra point, then, oh, wait a second, they wanted to go for two. Mattie Pflus needed to burn a timeout to make that decision should have already been made earlier during the drive. They should have been talking to the offensive coordinator. What did you think of that? And also in a, where does the quarterback come in? Because I think we're getting, letting Caleb Williams off a little bit here because of the fact he's a rookie. He's doing a lot, but the great quarterbacks, don't they already know that if they score touchdown here, they're going for two. They're not celebrating a touchdown pass and debating who's going to get the game ball after the game. They're getting their offense back in the huddle, ready to go for two. That didn't happen. So I think, yes, the head coach is responsible, but the quarterback did not help him out. Well, no, I could see why Caleb did that. I mean, the quarterbacks, most of the time, the young one, particularly, they don't, they don't know, David. They really don't know what's going on. I mean, I'm telling you, I'm just telling you from experience, they come running off and then I got to look at him and say, put my fingers up and say, stay out there. We're going for two. But here's the deal. And I was talking with Tony Wise about this when we crossed a 50 yard line in that situation, whoever was responsible for going for one, going for two and timeouts, he would say to me, if you're that guy, David, you would say, coach, if we score, we're going for one. The charts, the chart says, I've got to make the decision. Coach, if we score, the chart says, we're going for two. There's no more discussion. We're not the bait in this thing. Now, I've got to make the decision. I know what the chart is saying. And so now all of a sudden, we get on here and score, and I'm putting one finger up or two. I don't understand that. I mean, and, you know, so, you know, that was a little bit, you know, Santos ran on. I don't know what happened, but that that's, you know, that shouldn't happen. I mean, come on, we got really qualified guys. It's a chart in front of you. It's not rocket scientists. Now, if there's some reason that away from the chart that you say you're going to go and keep it a two score game, but it didn't make much sense. I mean, to me, you're going to go for two and try to make it a field goal. So Dave, we know the Bears have had offensive line issues all year. And before the game, the general manager did an interview with the ESPN before the game. And on it, he said that communication, technique and fundamentals are the problem. They've led to rough performance rather than bad talent. So it's not the talent. It's not like they have a bad offensive line. It is, in his opinion, communication, technique and fundamentals. Is that what you're seeing? Well, yeah, I got to believe that, you know, because I know the offensive line coach, and I think you guys really good, he's going to get the most out of these players. You know, what he's saying then is what's today, Tuesday, tomorrow, their players are today's game plan day, tomorrow, the players come in. First thing that would be on that wall would be full pads. And we are going guys, we are going to run this damn ball this week. And we're going full pads today. And we're going to have, it's not going to be a scrimmage, but it's going to be a full speed, good on good. And we are going to run the football 10 15 plays. So you're going to block off a portion of time tomorrow to talk to the players association. Well, you're allowed some. But yeah, no, no, we get coach, we are, we are at the cross road. Okay. All right, coach, we are right there. I love the idea, Dave. I love a little smash mouth. I said it yesterday that called a meatball, but I don't think it's going to happen in today's day and age, not at nine practices where we can put pads on none of us meatballs called you meatball. Meatball, we're all meatballs. That doesn't sound like, you know, we used to call it nutcracker or something like that, Dave, but not meatball. So after the game, eberfluces asked immediately was Nate Davis benched? Is that what happened? And he said basically that his groin injury had prevented him from taking snaps all week. So they decided that Matt Pryor was going to start the game. The the general manager again on the pregame said that no, that it was his bigger body would help the center and the tackle next to him. So playing him at guard was like an idea they had to get better as opposed to Nate Davis, but he couldn't practice because of the grind. So they won't admit that they've benched him and they say that it's the groin injury. And I'm not saying he doesn't have a soft tissue injury. He did not practice last week, but how long do you go on with moving him in and out? You tried to do it with Ryan Bates and now Bates is on the the injured reserve list and we can't play. So now you're doing it with another guy. Don't you want to move beyond that one? Yeah, I mean, nothing's there's nothing different about God bless Nate, but there's nothing different about him not practicing. You know, we've been saying that for two years now, haven't we? Yeah. And OTAs and many camps and training camp in the season. So that I don't know. I mean, I it's a little bit disheartening because we were kind of where we were a year ago, you know, and we don't have the backs or the commitment to run the ball. So I don't know, you know, it's frustrating. You know, and let me say this, I look this up. When I looked at those stats after the game and Caleb is going to be fine. I know people will get on my case when I say this on the air all the time, you know, I'll get beat up. He's going to be fine. You know, he, but when we throw the ball 52 times, you know, make times Tom Brady average how many passes a game 34 passes a game and there's whole career. Dave, you don't know another step Brad Biggs shared with us this morning since 2015 teams that throw 50 or more passes in a game are 23 and 141. Wow. 23 and 141. Wow. You know, your identity as a bears offense right now, you're lost and you don't have an identity. And the whole thing comes down to with the quarterback and we, and we threw for a lot of yards. We can all be excited. But why is Justin Fields, his numbers are not that much different at Pittsburgh, except for one thing guys, not turning the ball over. And I've always said in my when I would be game planning, I would look at the quarterback. And the first stat I would look at is what's his ratio touched on the interceptions. Yes. And to be a good player, maybe a wild car type quarterback, it's got to be two to one touchdowns, the interceptions to be a playoff quarterback. And some Tom Brady and those guys, and I keep, I'm not using Brady. Use any good Kirk Cousins. I don't just pick one and look at their touchdowns, the interceptions. Yeah. And the ones that make a little run in the playoffs, they're generally three, four, five, the one touchdowns. This summer, get away in the Hyundai you've always wanted at the Hyundai Getaway sales event. Get the hottest deals of the season on many of our award winning Hyundai models, which all come with America's best warranty. But get going because these deals won't last. Add more joy to your journey at the Hyundai Getaway sales event. Now for a limited time, get 1.99% APR for 60 months on the Hyundai Tucson or Elantra, hurry into the Hyundai Getaway sales event offers end September 3rd, call 562-314-4603 for details. This kid now has two touchdown passes and he's got four interceptions. That's a one to two ratio. Yeah. And that was, you know, but my point is, that's the wrong one to two ratio. Absolutely. That's one touchdown for two interceptions. Absolutely. And the whole thing is what I'm trying to say is everybody wants to talk about Justin, blah, blah, blah. Well, Justin's not turning the ball over. Whether it's play call and maybe they, you know, aren't just just doing a better job. I don't know what it is with, wait now there. All I know is he's not turning it over, but he's making runs and he's not throwing a ball anymore he did here. I mean, you know, it's, so don't, I don't want to get on that road with you, but I do know that protecting the ball is critical. And it just, sometimes it's something that's overlooked when a guy gets 300 yards past. Let's talk about how a head coach sets a tone after a loss like that. Let's contrast and compare what Matt Eberflu said in saying that he was encouraged by what he saw immediately after the game in Indianapolis with what Antonio Pierce of the Raiders said, he saw players making business decisions and he's going to start making some business decisions. It's probably both extremes. You don't want to be complacent in which I think Matt Eberfluis might have been. You want to be the scorched earth as maybe Antonio Pierce was. What did you think about what Flussey said and what was your approach after a loss like that? I guarantee it. Well, we would be in full pads and we would have an inside run period. There are no doubt about that. That's, but Dave, you all, you never used the media to send a message. You always, you always talked about the game. You never threw guys under the bus. You would never try to let the players know you were mad and you would go at them. You would, you would go to a player and let them know that he had done wrong. And you would tell them after the game. You didn't come into the, what bothered me about what Pierce did is don't use the media as you got to be able to go. You go to a guy and you said, you made a business decision. I saw it. It was the fifth play. Or who knows? Maybe the guy wasn't showing up in meetings, but I don't know what he means. You don't know. We don't have that information. But you never used the media to send a message. No. And you know, if you did, you didn't use me, damn it. Correct. No. I mean, no. You had already left. You were gone. You were moving up the bigger things at that time, Molly. But no, you know what? It's a little bit like what's going on in Dallas right now. You hear the comments that Parsons is making? Yeah. He's saying that he's talking about business decisions. I mean, that stuff is what I would call football friendly fire. And boy, it's, you got, you got to put that out real quick, guys. Can you be too friendly? If you're mad, you're loose. Can you come out of a loss that bad? And he said he was encouraged by what Dave? I think a lot of people wanted to hear him be a little bit more fed up. Yes, publicly. There's a, there's a line you have to draw and a balance you have to strike. You don't want to go Antonio Pierce scorched earth, but you can be a little bit more critical publicly without going after specific individuals by setting a tone and saying, you know what, we have a standard and we just didn't meet it and we got to be better. Yeah. I mean, and trust me, Fluse being a defensive coach, defensive coaches, in my opinion, and offensive guys will get mad at me because it's not all of them. It's not the Chan Gaylies, not North Turner's, but the majority of offensive coaches just don't see the run game importance. Like a defensive guy does the defensive guy. So Fluse got to look at those stats and says 30 yards Russian or whatever it was. Are you kidding me? Less than three yards a carry? I mean, you make Dave, I mean, that's a definite upset that Gatorade table to me. You mentioned a couple of times that Chris Morgan, you think Chris Morgan's a good coach. I see offensive line coach who when keeping him, they made the run game coordinator. How do he and Shane Waldron coexist? Does does does a guy who is the run game coordinator get to coordinate a run game? Or are we going to throw the ball 55 times 56? I'm sorry. There were four of them sacks. So 50, you know what, you got me there, Molly. I've never been in that situation as a head coach, as an assistant coach in 40 years, where we had two guys. Now, I work together. One decision maker. And that's the offensive coordinator. You know, you can cite your opinion. Everybody's got an opportunity during the week to cite their opinion. You know, I mean, we would do it to give you an example. When I was coaching defense, Butch Davis was in charge of our short yard each in goal line. Greg Shiano, okay, when he was with me, Greg Shiano was in charge of our third Don. They would bring it to me, stand on the board, tell me what you see. Coach and third Don, I think we, you know, they will run the ball half the time. We got to be ready for this, this, this. Okay. And I, and he would make a recommendation. You know, I really like this, this blitz right here. And I'd say, you know what, but yeah, I see what you're saying. But boy, I'm just nervous about the contained factor. This guy's too good athlete. Let's, let's come up with something where we can contain it more and everything else I'm good with. You know, so you do that, you kind of work it a little bit. But then the coordinator has definitely, and I don't know how the bears are doing it, but he's got the final decision. Now, critical situation, every coordinator I've been with from the get go, it's fourth and one, fourth and two were on the goal line. That offensive coordinator is talking to the line coach during the game. And I would be listening and North Turner would be talking to Tony. Hey, Tony, I really like the inside Bob play right here. And you're good with it. I'm good with it. Let's do it. Well, I have to say it's fair to wonder then if that is happening because you have a offensive line coach who's respected and, and proven and Chris Morgan. And you have an offensive coordinator who essentially had to inherit the line coach and Shane Waldron. Was Shane Waldron brought here because he had the same agent as Matt Iberflues and Ryan polls because he wasn't brought here because of his past with Chris Morgan. And if that, these guys need to be like this. Oh, yeah. Every Sunday, you have to wonder because of the struggles in the running game, if they're actually like this, because of the relationship that did not exist before he came to Chicago. It's a good question. I don't have an answer on that. You know, I really don't. I just know, you know, Ryan polls is an ex NFL offensive lineman. So you'd like, let's give him a little credit in this thing too, or, or pull him into the conversation, right? Right. That if he, when he gave him a little blame, when he's watching the tape, you know, I mean, if I sat down right now, we started watching the tape, sure, I can go through every position, but I'm going to dissect that defense inside and out because that's my expertise. You know what I mean? And Ryan polls is, is that's his, you know, he played offensive line at a high level. He played at the NFL. He knows what offensive lineman, what it takes Dave, he's got to be in this conversation. In my opinion, maybe, maybe not. I don't know. The Rams come in. They've got the quarterback. They've got the coach on McVay still there. They're coming off a big upset of, of San Francisco and must win for them because they started the season 0 and 2. They are beaten up. They're down three starting offensive linemen. Cooper cup already has been ruled out. We know Puka Nakua is already out for the game. He's on injury reserve. So they're missing some of their better players, but they come in here and they're looking to get to 500 as the bears are. What do you like in this game? How do you view the game? Are you concerned about coach? I'm on the bears. I mean, I, I, it was a hard one for me last week. I was all over the bears last week telling everybody, you know, I mean, I was, I was touting, I was telling, I was feeling good. I got to do the same thing unless is Aaron Donald coming back this week? Oh, but Aaron, Dave, if there's a coaching deficit here of every time. Sean McVay is coming. He's still here. Yeah. Stafford's making the trip. I think he's a pretty good head coach. I don't know how he can place faith in the bears after what we saw on Sunday. He's taking the bear. I'm on the bears. What's the line? What's the spread? It's bears plus two in the hook. Is that right? One in the hook? Really? Bears minus three per circle. Oh, three minus three. Yeah. There's minus three. Oh, I did I say plus? I don't know. Bears are favored in the game by three. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Well, they they went at home even when they don't score offensive touch. Gotcha. Yeah. I mean, I like the bears in this one. Absolutely. But I do. I mean, come on. Hey, I believe we got a better football team than the Rams right now. Okay. That's how I look at it. Yeah. And we should be motivated. We should be angry. We should be disappointed that they have a better football team. Did they sound angry? Did the bear sound angry? Did Maddie Riflu sound angry at any point since they lost and blew that game? I know he sounded Yeah. He did not sound ticked off. You guys are pushing me into a corner. I'm sorry. I'm not doing anything. David, you're pushing me into a corner. You are really. Oh boy. Yeah. Back off. No one pushes David to a quarter. I'm sorry. Great stuff, Coach. We appreciate your time as always. 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